The Morning Stream - TMS Nerdtacular 2026!
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Ladies and gentlemen, live from the gorgeously appointed Marriott City Center Hotel in beautiful downtown Salt Lake City, Utah.
Did I get the right? Yes.
This is the morning stream live at Nerdtacular 2026.
Now, here are your host, Scott Johnson and Brian Ibit.
Thank you, Scott Fletcher.
Ibit face.
It's got you upside down.
I love that people brought Ibit faces.
That's fantastic.
I brought one too.
Did you?
It's your own.
It's my own.
Yeah, it's a very versatile Ibit face right here with him.
Welcome and hello and thank you for being here for our live episode of TMS.
We got some fun surprises for you today, a big lineup of people visiting us.
But before we do, there is a longstanding tradition on for Nurtacular that there is some curse associated with the event.
There's something.
And one time it was the hill behind.
us caught on fire and it just about made us evacuate.
So we almost burned down our neighborhood.
Another time, there was a
rock slide, which everyone reminded me by singing that to me
every time they saw me.
Stevie Nick style. But anyway,
it had only happened 109 years prior, and then this was the next time.
And it happened on day one of Nurtacular.
So there's always like this thing that either
temporarily blocks us. I mean, nothing could stop us.
All right. That's the deal.
That's right.
but it always happens
and this year
Brian might be the curse
or he may have experienced the curse
so
I need to phrase that a little better
do you want to tell them what you faced
as you head out the door on your way here
yeah so
no secret I have
sleep issues right so
woke up at 3 50th
the trip to Vermont didn't help
two weeks at a different time zone
shifted my wake up in the middle of the night time
to a couple hours earlier so 315
wake up. I'm like, all right, I'm uncomfortable, hot, I'm going to get up. You know what I'll do is I'll go down the computer,
grab some last minute stuff for the trip, and I'll take care of that, and that will get some stuff off my mind,
I'll get some sleep. So I go down the stairs, down to the bottom level, step on the very last step,
and then onto the floor, squish. And I'm like, oh, that cat.
and Nara's like, you know, she's either done some business down there,
or she had a little accent or something,
and now I've got you like thinking,
I've got to hop on one foot, back up the stairs.
And then I realized, no way, this is like a lot of liquid.
Something's really wrong with the cat.
And I kind of look around like, okay, yeah,
there's a fair amount of water here on the carpet,
and I go around the corner to our hot water heater room,
And there is a puddle of water on the floor, pool of water on the floor.
And my first thought is, oh, sucks.
Tune's not going to be able to go to Nurtacular.
So, they're in my underwear.
I go and I find the shop vac, the wet and dry back.
You says it's like 3.30 in the morning or something like that?
It's 3.15 in the morning, yeah.
Nothing good happens.
No.
And so I go get the shop back.
We get this wet and dry back.
And bringing it into the room.
like, well, this is going to wait to you up, but whatever.
I'm not going to just leave this. So I start, like, getting as much
of the water off of the, out of the room
to see where, maybe I can figure out where the water's coming
from. And
then I do it on the floor,
the carpet area that I stepped in.
And I'm like, all right, I'm not seeing any new water
come down. Well, the shop vac's
full. I got to take it, dump it outside.
I throw on a quick t-shirt and a pair of
shorts.
And then the dungeon caller carl thing happened.
The whole world's flattened.
The whole world's flattened.
Exactly. Didn't have to do that
I can walk around outside naked, nobody would have seen me.
So get that dumped out, come back down.
Still no water come out. All right, cool.
I'm going to go maybe see if I get some more sleep.
You get a couple more things done.
There was no getting back to sleep after that.
I was done sleeping for the night.
Wake Tina up about, you know,
time she wanted to get woken up for the drive.
Fortunately, she was able to sleep through most of it,
except for when I had the shop vacuing,
and she thought I was outside leaf blowing the raccoons.
Like legitimately.
She said, she told us out of dinner.
He's like, he's out there.
He saw the raccoons.
He's using the leaf blower to scare him away.
Which I think is a far better use of my time.
So no more water's coming out.
We're like, all right, we've got, you know,
our neighbors are coming over to our house to take care of the cats.
And they're also, I told him, can you check on on that room
and just see, make sure there's no more flooding.
Crazy neighbor says, I'm all over it.
That's my Wisconsin accent right there.
don't you know.
And he figures out that it's actually
the clog of the drain that the water is supposed to go.
There's some natural runoff from the air conditioning,
condensation, stuff like that,
and it had just reached its limit.
So fortunately, no water coming out of things
is just some water that wasn't able to go down.
So he snaked it while we were on the eight-and-a-half-hour drive
through 55-mile-an-hour cross winds across Wyoming.
That's fun.
Yeah.
Going next to semis that are caterpillar.
That entire drive, if it's windy at all.
We're all going to die on that road.
We'll go there.
So, made it here.
If that's the, you know.
It could be a curse.
I'd hear that story and go, that sounds like a curse.
Hugh, we're done.
We got it out of the way.
Move on.
No.
Some of you people got stuck in an elevator here.
And one of them didn't even take a 360-degree panoramic movie of his experience.
I haven't talked to Shane about this, but Shane does these panoramic shots when he goes to a concert or something and just slowly walks around and gets a shot and smiles.
And I love it.
And I love when he does it.
But we didn't get one for the elevator.
I know.
Yeah.
So I think that might be the curse.
We got it definitely out of the way.
But then there's one other thing, though, that might also be the curse.
Oh, no.
Are they out of pepper jack cheese in the commissary?
No. It's not that.
Mike's way the wrong way.
It was, uh, I'm not going to.
to use names. I don't want to say who this happened to.
But this happened to somebody was telling us a story,
and the best part of it is who they were saying it in front of.
But they told us that they went and heard a little
ding, ding, ding, ding on their door, and they went and checked the
Pee-Pole, and this was very late at night on Wednesday night,
and there was a naked man standing, staring at the thing,
up on floor seven. Sorry, floor seven.
I don't know what's going on up there.
And he kind of let him move away a little bit, then popped his head out
because we are all nice like this, and we said, hey,
can we help you? Are you okay? Is everything all right? And he says,
I lost my hotel room key.
Now he tells us this
while there's a dude with,
I didn't notice him at first, but there's a very
scary looking man who looks like he
could put me in jail because he had a big old badge
on his pants. He had a security here.
And he hears this story. And he walks up
and he goes, I believe I should step in
and tell me more about that.
And we said, we don't know what was going on.
Maybe he just lost his key or it was a problem with the
door. And he goes, this is a him problem.
Tell me more. And he just kept like it more.
I don't know where it ended up.
I don't know where that guy is. Or if any of this
ever come to any fruition, but the trifecta of curses.
Yeah.
Because I still think that carpet thing sucks.
Oh, it sucks.
It could have been worse.
It could have been so much worse.
And there's going to have to be a lot of cleaning when we get home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And in your case, if you guys were stuck in that elevator any longer, there may have been some things to clean up.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Guys got to pee.
I'm just saying.
Should have gotten a free room out of it.
Other than the elevator.
Yeah.
Well, so that's what we've been up to.
We're not going to waste too much time, though,
in bringing up some very fantastic people
that help us every week with our guest spots
and our segments
and all this fun stuff we've been doing
since the very beginning.
And I figured we'd start with a person
who is here twice a week.
Mr. Brian Dunaway. Come on up.
Brian Dunaway.
Have a seat, my friend.
Oh, hi.
There's no quiz or nothing, so you're good.
No quiz. No quizzes today.
No, Brian doesn't have to explain the rules.
Yep, no steam codes to give away.
answers five points for one answer we always look forward to you on Mondays and
Wednesdays do you look forward to us as the question
absolutely when I remember and I'm like oh no they're calling yeah yeah that
happens because you're at work yeah I'm at work usually and I usually do it during my
lunch break and so I have my headphones on and when I hear the call I'll come
running usually used to be a call on Discord but now we use clean feed yeah
And so I just hear Scott suddenly come on and start talking.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't give a lot of warning anymore.
No, you don't.
I'm too old for that.
Who needs that?
Sometimes I'm in the bathroom, that I could.
Oh, we know.
Yeah, we know.
We know those episodes.
So you're unique in this sense because I've been doing stuff with Dunaway on and off, pretty much on.
There's no off for, what, 21 years now.
I did the math the other day.
this past Sunday was
21 years.
Jeez.
Yeah.
And that started in this like
we were cartoonist buddies
and we would talk back and forth
and then I was starting to do show stuff
and he says
how are you going to do it?
I'm like I think I'll use Skype
and then we couldn't get it to work
and so we'd spend hours testing it.
It's totally different today.
Primorial stuff
for early days of podcasting
and I used to love all that
troubleshooting we asked to do
and he still does it.
If I have a problem now,
I'll call him up.
Hey, Donaway, what are you doing?
Yeah.
Well, I'm working.
but what do you need?
What do you got?
I'm sticking for a reason to slack off.
What we got?
Yeah.
Now, what's weird, though, and I don't have a picture to compare it, but what's the phrase
that McConaughey says?
Like, getting older, but they stay the same age?
Yeah, stay the same age.
He doesn't age.
He's like, you get younger, skinnier, cooler.
You can rock a man bun.
Keep going.
Yeah.
No, I'm good.
Yeah, I'm good.
That's good.
Smell nice.
Oh, I smell nice.
And because of all this, you're going to have to eat some weird.
stuff on the panel today.
So get ready for that. Not yet, but you're going to.
Without further ado,
let's bring another old friend.
She's not old. We've been friends for a long time.
How about that?
Without recommendals, I don't know what we'd watch.
Nicole Spagg, please come to the table.
Nicole Spacknolo.
We're going to keep going
and then people move to the back
and then all the stack. Where is she? She here? There she is.
Nicole Spaggnoll.
This looks
like the first time she's heard about this.
I didn't give her a lot of warning.
It's pretty appropriate.
Yeah, no, it is.
It's very appropriate.
Has Nicole, what was the last time?
Nicole was on recommendals right at 930.
I don't remember the last time that happened.
Yeah, you have a life.
Yeah, you have a life.
Yeah, you have a life to live.
But it's funny because your role has been so interesting over time,
and it's always been one of my favorite things.
It's like, we're going to find out stuff I don't know about
that's really good to watch on streaming.
We're all traffic.
by these freaking streaming services now.
We may as well know what to watch.
I did cancel Netflix.
I know.
Here's the problem, though.
I started watching The Monarchs.
Get up on your mic a little bit.
There you go.
I started watching The Monarchs.
And I got it.
It's really good.
And then I was like, oh, crap, I canceled.
So I'm forever at episode three until.
I thought that was on Apple TV.
Monarchs, what am I thinking of?
Is that the big?
Am I getting the name wrong?
Is it the Godzilla thing?
No, no, no, no.
That's on Apple TV.
No, it's like an old retirement community.
Oh, that's the boroughs.
The boroughs.
The Burroughs.
The Monarch is a story.
One of her favorite shows.
I'm sure you guys got a bingo square right now.
The Monarchs, the Burrows.
I think that counts, by the way.
I would count that.
Yeah, yeah.
If that is on a scavenger.
It's Gina Davis.
It's, you know.
The Dunfer brothers, is that right?
Duffer.
Dupfer? Dupre. Dupfer?
Duffer.
It's not the Dupus Brothers.
The Dundford brothers.
The Dunford brothers.
Now you definitely have that square.
Get that square in.
Okay.
But yeah, I love that because we, I don't know, it's just this, we get to watch stuff and then we get to come together and make recommendations.
And I always hear from people.
It's like, oh, we love Nicole.
We love Nicole.
Oh.
Where's Nicole?
I'm like, she's in some of them.
That's me.
But yeah.
I just want to say.
this show, I feel great, by the way, if you're wondering.
Yeah.
You've been through, I've been through it.
And I told Scott early on, this was one of the things that kind of helped me through it all.
So I just wanted to say thank you.
For all the well wishes and just touching base with me, it was really nice.
And being forced, because sometimes I didn't feel like watching anything.
So, watching, you know, having a homework of sorts to kind of find something.
And I know when we first started it, I was doing three.
And I was trying to find, like, weird off stuff that nobody would ever hear of.
Now it's a little bit more mainstream.
But there's still some good stuff out there.
Yeah, I really enjoy it.
I actually have a really, I also have a very fun Liam Nicole story to tell you.
Way back in the day, probably 09 or something.
thing. We used to get together and play
like either Modern Warfare 2
or I don't know what it was, one of the Nathan Drake
games. Yeah. And
Liam would join us and Eric would be there
and we would play and you have never heard
anyone swear like Nicole.
You think my one F-bomb
this year that I've ever done in my life
on air, you think that's bad.
My gosh, dude. I can't
help it. Look, my husband's
here. I started playing Fortnite
2 and he has to remind me
that my kids are in them.
Fiercely competitive.
You know, I just am.
And I was really bad at Fortnite at first.
We would party up with three others, and usually they would die, and then I would be alive.
And I'm like, and I'd run away, and I'm like, I am suck.
I am suck.
This is not good.
Now I'm good at this game.
I can carry them.
So watch out for me.
I'm sweaty.
I would take that as a challenge.
Well, speaking of things like Fortnite, I wonder if there's a guy with us who could make
a Fortnite gun.
As good as anybody.
It's Bill Duran, everybody.
Where is he?
There he is.
Bill Duran.
Do you go down?
Okay.
Yeah, please.
The Rebel pilot.
Those people don't stay next to me very long.
No.
Brian had milk with his coffee.
Do you guys see what my shirt says?
I have friends everywhere.
Yes, and they all showed up.
It's true, right?
So you're one of the most interesting cases with us because when you started it was a fitness segment.
It's true and that was 15 years ago.
Yeah, it was a long time ago.
Yeah, and about 30 pounds ago.
And I don't know what the lesson is there, but whatever it is, don't worry about it.
Their lesson is priority change.
And I might have ADHD.
As you started going hard into the maker market and all that stuff, things really changed for you.
And at one point, I think you were just like, dude, we should talk about this.
It was jury actually.
Jury was like,
maybe he noticed I was gaining weight too.
You should probably talk about making things.
Writing was on the wall.
Well, it's good to have you here, man.
Thank you for being a part of this.
Good to be here. Can I share a few things about our cosplay event?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So first of all, it's later, it's like 8.30.
So if you have a costume, don't feel like you have to wear it all day.
You can take a break in your hotel room.
We have a cosplay repair kit.
Brittany's around.
I'm around.
So if something breaks.
I've already used it.
Already use it.
already use it broke before you got here.
Broke in the car.
So if something you have breaks, anything, really, we can help you fix it.
And then we just, we want to see your creativity.
The showcase is to see your creativity that you brought here.
And we cannot wait to share that with everyone.
It's going to be awesome.
It's going to be, Bill, myself, and Liam O'Brien will be up here at the table.
Not judging, do you promise.
No.
But kind of, we'll commentate a little.
Yeah.
This is not a competition.
is only an exhibition, please, no wagering.
Yeah, no wagering.
Where's Mitzoula? No wagering. Where is it?
No. So I can't wait to see what everyone brought.
I'll be entering.
It's going to be awesome. It's going to be good.
Measuring, is that you said?
And during the day, if you want to come up on stage and show off, come find me.
I just need to get your name so we know what to announce when you go up on stage.
He's in the bright orange pants.
Yeah, hard to miss.
Yep. And if you see the bender riding around, that's him too.
me too. Yeah. It's pretty awesome.
I fit inside of it.
You're inside of it.
All right, but let's keep this train
going. We got Bobby Frankenberger,
our science specialist.
It's like the tonight show
over here. Ed McMahon
just keeps moving further away.
Where is Bobby?
Oh, there he is right there.
Bobby Frankenberger.
Bobby.
So Bobby, relatively new addition to the show
in terms of the science segment, but one
that I've always enjoyed.
And my favorite part about it is you'll come on and I'll go,
hey, it won't even be your topic.
But we'll go, hey, did you hear the thing in the news about the thing in this deal?
And you'll go, yeah, that's a bunch of bunk.
Anyway.
So it's really exciting to be on the show because I don't have to yell at my screen anymore.
I can just.
Is that what prompted you to reach out and start that conversation?
Yeah, it's just like, okay, listen, I can't deal with this anymore.
The doctor says I've got high blood pressure.
This isn't helping.
Yeah.
But you do bring a level of knowledge to the show that we, I'm not going to say we were lacking or needed, but, you know, I'll say it.
And Brian and I have our strengths when it comes to, you know, institutional knowledge.
But we don't always know that one version of a cloud means something bad for scientists than another.
And so you come on and you fill us in.
It's been great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I love it.
And you've also been great here, by the way.
I've been killing it.
Oh, thank you.
Yes.
Yes.
I do have to say
I was supposed to be the fifth person up here.
You said number, isn't that fifth?
Oh, well, that's because
I've saved the next one for
the best.
That's not true, but it is out of order you're right.
I know.
That's not science, though. That's just me being stupid.
I called her my
emotional support sibling, but I actually mean
that with all my heart and soul.
Ladies and gentlemen, Wendy Dunford is joining us.
Wendy Dunford
Oh yeah
She's good, yeah
Heavy curds
Of the
Dunford Donuts
Fortune
Yeah, let's remind her again
How you almost inherited
Dunford donuts
I know, right?
I married in
But they gave up the rights
You brought them
Is that what that is?
I got some
I want to give one away
And then this is pallet cleansers
Because look at the garbage
We have up here we have to eat
Do we?
Or you guys anyway
So real quick
How do I give these away?
Kim will pull the thing out of a hat
We can do that or
Or I kind of like
Or whatever you want
Yeah let me ask a question about the show
So if you've never listened to me before
You're going to lose
Uh oh this is her homework
part of the show
Okay
What was a phrase I said in the last
episode I didn't mean to say
raise your hand
say it correctly what
nope you're wrong go ahead
oh
lion share with that nice lady back there
she was really close
oh it's Nikki
she is a nice lady she is a nice lady
she is very nice so I actually had a question
along those lines remembering things you said
you've been doing this longer than anybody you were the first segment
we had so Thursdays day one week one
we had Wendy on
and we've done it as often as we possibly could since.
And this occurred to me the other day.
Thank you.
Do we, man, this thing moves when people walk on it.
That is weird.
It's like, earthquake, new curse.
Anyway, new curse, who dis?
But I thought, we've covered a lot of things
that are maybe similar in nature.
Like someone will write in about a thing.
Two weeks later we'll get maybe a similar question
and I wouldn't say we backtrack,
but we sometimes cover similar stuff.
Yeah.
But is it me, or is 15 years of this, proof that there's no end to the well of what people need?
Like everybody's got a version of something, and you can't always binary pick it and go,
they've got this.
They may have that and 50 other things, so you're never going to be out of a job,
is what I'm saying.
Yeah, I've been trying.
It's never going to end.
Yeah.
I mean, just earlier I was signing, because Bobby made me sign something,
and two people near me were sharing their Therapy Thursday write-ins.
and they're decade apart and very similar.
And my advice, turns out, was exactly the same.
That means you're consistent.
Also, remember, I make a lot of stuff up.
So it was great.
Well, I have a surprise for the two of you.
You guys ready for it?
Okay, so long, long time, listener, fan of the show,
wishes he could be here.
Matthew Perkins, it's been around a long time,
has done something in the background,
and I am the conduit.
of something very, very cool.
And it should have been completed, but life is busy.
So we were given you a first draft.
But I would like to present to you.
I mean, it's 15 years, guys.
Yeah.
It's a lot of, hi, this is Wendy.
How can I help you?
I'm that to Scott.
And here's one for Brian.
There's a file on us.
Yeah.
There's your file.
Well, they used your Ibit face in your file.
Okay.
Okay, so we have been,
Matthew has created a really incredible
AI agent that has extracted
every story you've ever told about a family member.
Some of whom are in this very room.
And so we will burn these when we're done.
And he's able to pull out all the stories.
And Taylor said, can I read that?
Yes, please do, yeah.
So Scott said one time,
Oh, my daughter Taylor listens to the show now.
Now that she's off to school, she's up there in Utah State,
hours away from me sitting there in her dorm.
Now she's decided, oh, wow, I'm interested in my dad's morning show.
And so now all I can think about are all the time,
wait, is all the time, it's Scott, you guys.
Come on now.
I better not say anything too horrible on here.
She's going to hear it.
Yeah.
And little did they know, A, I would catch everything they've ever said.
I have nothing horrible to say about Taylor.
She's the greatest person in the world.
So Scott's book so far is 450 pages, and Brian's is a reasonable, like, 45 at this point.
Are you kidding?
Yeah, the difference is shocking.
But that also includes me and my family.
So it's like our stories about mom and dad, and anyway, it's pretty good.
We go on, that's true.
So thank you, Matthew, and just thought you guys.
That was really cool.
I can't wait to see this.
I'm legit nervous.
Like things I would say 15 years ago, I might not say.
today.
There's a lot of that in the old ones.
All right.
Awesome.
Wendy, it's really good to have you here.
Let's keep moving down the road to
our other female
member of things.
By the way, I love
the amazing women we have involved in the show
and I cannot imagine it
without them.
So Amy Red Fraggle-Robbinsson,
could you please enter the fray?
Amy Robinson.
She's the one that wants to keep us
educated, always be reading.
Books are good. The segment's
called Read This. Y'all need books.
Yeah, we need books. And you're there to give them to us.
I can't remember the impetus for this, but do you remember
why you wanted to do the segment and how that all worked out?
Yeah. So I was listening one day, and Tom was on
for the tech segment, but he didn't have any tech stuff to talk about, so he
instead talked about, like, the latest book that y'all had read.
I, yeah, was a book in a series that I haven't read, but whatever.
and you guys enjoyed it so much
and you commented like,
we should do this more often.
We should do like a book of mental kind of segment or whatever.
And I was like,
I read books.
And so I just like immediately stopped what I was doing,
took out my phone and just emailed Scott.
I was like, hey Scott,
if you really want to do a book segment,
like I could totally do that.
And you were like, yes, can you be on Thursday?
And I was like, okay.
I needed a slot to fill, and it was a perfect slot to fill.
It turned out to be a great segment, and you're the one, I think, I could be wrong on this,
but I think for a lot of us, listeners, I think you're one of the first people to talk about Dindemann's book, about Dungeon Crawler Carl.
I've heard of it.
I have so many people come up and say, like, thank you, and how dare you?
Yeah.
You know, like.
Yeah, because now they're eight in and they can't stop and they can't wait, and it's kind of a mess.
Yeah.
We got a...
I actually, I have a present for you.
You do?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
It's funny you mentioned.
earlier, your infamous F-bomb.
Oh, yeah. I decided to...
No, she made me an F-bomb! And it's already lit.
I mean, John figures we have at least two more sessions of Resident Evil 9 in us,
so we'll see. Maybe there'll be two. I don't know.
Right.
That's amazing. Thank you so much.
Oh, you're so welcome. Yeah, that's going...
That got me in trouble, actually. Chuck came home from work, and I had made that,
and I had stuff for my cosplay was all over the coffee table.
and our kitchen was filled up with craft projects and whatnot.
And he came upstairs.
I was sitting at my desk because I had, you know, work meetings, you know, day job.
And I was sitting there with my crochet hooks and I held it up.
I said, look, I made an F bomb.
And he goes, you are incorrigible.
Well, he's not wrong in this case.
That's fantastic.
Well, thank you for that.
I also have a little gift for Bobby just because he worked so hard on all of this.
and I thought it would be really, really cool.
And I made this, I got a wild hair to make a mug.
You guys know I do pottery and stuff.
So I have made a TMS mug.
Aw.
I like that.
And it's like, I'll show you guys too.
Like I've got, I put like all the whole.
It looks like line paper.
Notebook paper, yeah, exactly.
It has three whole punches in the hand.
Yep, the handle has a little three whole punch.
And, you know, just various and sundry random things that we say.
Like it's got the on-air line.
and it says, oh, hi, and hello friends, and Mark.
And, you know, just random things,
and the green science on the top.
Oh, yeah, you're all, by the way,
required by law when you see Mark's back in all,
the Wood Whisperer himself walking around here,
you yell Mark at him when you say,
Mark.
Mark.
Mark.
He'll understand.
It'll be okay.
Is he over there somewhere?
Somewhere over there.
His kids all got old.
I don't know what happened.
All right.
Well, it's awesome to have you here, as always.
Speaking of the guys whose segment
was talking about books and inspired you to create a segment
The Tech Lord himself.
Tom Merritt, everybody.
Tom Merritt.
Yeah, it's all the way from Los Angeles, California.
Bringing his A-games.
I like that I kicked Dunaway off just like I do on Wednesdays.
It's kind of true.
We're always late, though.
We're about five minutes late bringing you in.
You're like wizards.
We are. We ride when we mean to, exactly.
Tom is easily the second month.
most common of our guests. He's been around the second longest next to Windy. And it always
just made sense. The minute we were working on a morning show, it was like, Tom, we'll probably do a
tech thing. And you're like, hell yeah, I'd do a tech thing. Heck yeah. Sorry, kids.
Sorry, Logan. Sorry, Logan. Where are we got?
But I think we've been better for it. I think the biggest, the weirdest thing is I think
our first 12 years were pretty standard tech stuff, like things going on in the news. The
last couple years, especially with the questions
we've been doing, all AI
all the time. And it's not anyone's
fault except that's the talk of the town
so we have to do it. Have you noticed that?
How do you feel about that? Oh yeah, no, absolutely.
And I hear it from DTS listeners regularly how much they hate it.
But
it is that balance of like, yeah, but it's also
happening. So, you know, whether you like
it or not, it's something that
it's worth wrapping your head around. And there's always
these areas of like when Twitter was new,
it's all anyone want to talk about. Yeah, yeah. Apple had
a new iPhone is all I'm going to talk about.
And when Buzz Out Loud started on CNET back in 2004,
thank you.
Wow, we are old.
And we would get complaints that we talked about Microsoft too much.
And like, why aren't you talking about Apple more?
And then the iPhone launch.
Why are you talking about Apple so much?
Why don't you talk about Microsoft more?
So there's always something like that.
Yeah, and I keep trying to find the tech angle in this weird Lego story that's here in Utah.
Oh, the mini fig thing?
Yeah, the brick, minifigs thing.
But I can't find it.
One day we're going to find a tech angle and we're going to break that egg right open.
I mean, you could always go, it's on YouTube.
Yeah, I couldn't say it.
Go check it out.
It's on YouTube.
It could be a recommendal.
There's going to be a documentary, I guarantee it.
The thing writes itself.
The other evolution we've seen with Tom is he has become a massive, I mean, I was joking with that image,
but a massive K-pop consumer fan person, human.
And I don't know, do you have, can you sum that up?
Like, what happened to you?
What happened to you?
Yeah.
I'll try to keep it short.
So when COVID happened,
one of the things Eileen did
was just start diving into YouTube stuff.
And she,
BTS put out Dynamite,
that song,
which is probably one of the songs,
if anybody knows any of their songs
that people know.
And she's like,
wow,
they're really good.
And then she went down that rabbit hole
and became such a fan
that she wanted to start going to concerts.
So I went with her.
And I was like,
actually the thing that really got me
is she would be on Saturday mornings
watching Run Beard.
BTS, which is BTS's variety
show where they like play games and do
silly stuff basically like we do.
And I was watching it going like, oh,
that's familiar.
And their fans love it the way our fans
love what we do. And they're really good at
it and they're really funny. So my joke for a while
was like, yeah, BTS, I love their stuff.
I hear they sing too.
Yeah, but now
I could go, who are the top, like I'll do it.
What are the top three girl
K-pop bands right now, groups?
It's eye, cat's eye, and Lesser.
I didn't prep him with that.
And I didn't recognize any of that.
ESPA probably should be in there.
That's like World of Warcraft Lute.
I got to go find.
Yeah, twice is huge.
Wild to me.
But I love that and I love your second.
That's all I lean, because E.
On Instagram and TikTok, if you're interested in K-pop,
she's got a huge following.
It's great.
So she keeps me up today.
All right.
Well, you've gone places with the K-pop world that I probably will never tread,
but I am happy that you've,
are here with us to talk about tech and
K-pop. Kamsamida.
All right, we've got a couple more to get up here, and then
we're going to do some fun stuff. We're going to try some weird
food. You guys are making a seat. Ooh, Dr. Doom Oreos.
Who brought those?
Sorry, got distracted.
I could wreck that. Of course it was
petulik, yeah. Those turn your poop black.
Yeah. They do, yeah. Do they actually? The green in there?
Yeah. Well, I'm doing it anyway.
All right.
But let's not, let's not forget. We once
and a while get schooled ourselves. Brian's often schooling us
a couple days a week, but sometimes
we need someone to come do it to us, and so that's when
we get to see Travis. TV's Travis
Crawford.
Travis Crawford.
What's going on, man?
You've also been very helpful
with things here. You didn't have to be, but you're like
big lifter, man. I was voluntold.
Voluntold? Yeah.
That sounds like a Bobby Ann Folks
problem is what that sound like. Surprisingly.
She voluntoldedolded a lot of people.
Yes.
No, but having you come on and do that has been fun because Brian's doling out all this game show and you never get to participate.
So once you started doing that, it was like a whole new game for us.
Yeah, and that was really what it was, I was like, Brian is constantly doing all this trivia.
I got to school him because I never get to play.
You don't get to play and you got me into the learned league trivia and all of that.
So I just sent an email.
How dare you?
Right.
And I just sent in an email like, hey, how do you guys think about, you know, every so often I'll come on and quiz you?
and here we are.
Yeah, yeah, it's turned out really good.
I know people really enjoy it.
I do, and I'm currently ahead,
maybe that's why I enjoy it.
Against all odds.
Exactly.
I don't know why Mitsula's ranking my team so bad.
I don't know what's going on with that,
but we'll see.
We got today and tomorrow.
We'll see how we do.
Well, Travis is fantastic to have you, man.
Thank you for being here.
It's so much fun, and one of these months,
I will actually prepare more than 12 hours ahead of time.
Okay, good.
Imagine what those will be like,
holy crap.
You think I've stumped you now.
One of these times.
All right.
Finally, we have one of our favorite people in the community.
She's bubbly.
She's weird in the best ways.
She likes gory movies.
But she's one of the sweetest people I know.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome TMS Friday's own and GOR's own Monica Stone.
Monica Stone.
She's going to have Fletcher just repeat everything today.
I love it.
I repeat everything today.
Monica, welcome to the show. How are you?
Hey, there's people here.
Yeah.
Hi.
Yeah. Good gore last night.
Oh, my God. It was amazing.
A little less populated because people were sleeping, but yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Everyone had to go to sleep. It was the, that's why.
So if you, when you talk about horror movies on the show, it's always just funny to me,
because it feels like the sweetest person you know is telling you about the most horrible acts you've ever heard of.
How do you reconcile that as just your, your fandom versus?
versus maybe someone's perception of you.
Are we breaking people's perceptions
by having you come on and go,
okay, we're going to talk about these three beheadings now
or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
I always say, like, when I was younger,
people would hear that I liked horror movies
and they'd be like, oh, you're going to grow up
to be a psycho.
And I'm like, am I?
I don't know.
But, like, I wouldn't hurt a fly.
No, I wouldn't.
No, we'd trust you with our flies.
It's fine.
Doesn't Norman Bates?
That's not what I meant.
See, how much of it is me doing it and people thinking it?
That's what I want to know.
Doesn't Norman Bates use that exact same line at the end of Psycho?
Wow, Brian, it's almost like I made a reference.
It's almost, yes.
And almost like I drew attention to it like I didn't plan it.
Well, we love having you on.
And also she helps run off all our game days or play dates, they're called.
And I don't know how we do that with that.
That would be terrible.
So keep doing that for free.
Exactly.
Keep paying.
Oh, no, wait, they pay me.
Secretly, they pay me.
Lots of money comes your way.
So double my pay of zero.
Well, it's good to have you here.
Here's what we're going to do.
Everybody who is either is still sitting up here or has ended up down there are going to
participate in some of these weird food tastings while you guys give us a little bit of Q&A.
Now, here's the fun with it.
You'll raise your hand, you'll stand up, and so on.
But guess who's bringing you the mic?
Do you want to guess?
Liam O'Brien will bring you the mic.
That way, you will see that he's just like you, you know?
We're all breathing the same air, the same thin mountain air.
Oh, it's a man on the street segment.
See?
There he is, the man on the street.
Although he has to do everything in an accent.
That's the rule.
No, you don't.
I'm kidding.
You don't have to know.
Am I running around to different people or what?
There you go.
So if you've got a question, you can raise hands now.
Anything you want to ask to any of our panel and that includes any of you guys come on up stand behind us if you want however you want to be here
The host that have shifted out at McMahon style you can definitely come back up here
And Liam will run around and get your questions I've got two right near each other hi what's your name?
Stephanie in a pets
So my very important question is do dogs have brains because I would like seriously want you to know
No, I'm just kidding
So I've been a listener for a while,
and I really like the show,
and I've really been thinking about as, like,
we all get older.
I dread the thought of TMS disappearing
or, you know, the other shows that I don't listen to
that I'm sure, okay, even though they're about games.
No interest there.
But, yeah, do you guys, like, foresee an end to TMS,
or are you just like, we're going to be on our...
I'm sorry.
Why do you want to say that shit out loud?
This is actually a good question.
Brian and I...
talk about this a little bit, but it's actually a really good
question, because when we talk about traditional
television or media or whatever, you
get a certain kind of run from those things, typically.
Not everything is the Simpsons where it's 35
years. A lot of times it's
Seinfeld for 9 or Star Trek
for 7 or whatever it is.
And we're not the same as a TV production,
obviously. But when we
started it, we just went, okay, we're going,
see you later, we're going. And nobody
went now, what's the plan? Do we have an
What's our exit strategy? No. We never
talked about that, nor did it ever really come up.
doesn't really come up that often, but occasionally
I'm like, there
is an end, but
we don't know what that is. I think
it ends with one of our deaths. Yeah, I think so.
I think so, too.
And then a very awkward
follow-up week of shows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll do reruns.
Yeah, we're going to, we'll do reruns.
It'll all be fine.
Up next. On a very sad
T.M.
I mean, the
idea is just a crazy, it's crazy to even say
But yeah, there's something in the future where that's the case, but I have no plans to do that.
And also, what's wrong?
How hard is it to get old and do this?
You know what I mean?
I can do this.
We can do this.
I think we do it better the older we get.
Yeah, the older we get, we do better.
So the question is, you know, will any younger audiences, you know, we're already kind of, the Zs are barely with us, you know?
But, you know, who knows?
But I don't think there's, we've never talked about that in a way.
that was like final.
But who knows?
We don't know.
I can promise you it'll be a very long time.
You'll be around for it.
Yeah.
Thank you, Stephanie.
I think you should predict a number
and then commit to the bid.
You get a question over here?
Hi, I'm Zerick.
I want to go down the line here
since I'm being asked
question by a critical role member here.
Which D&D race and class
combo best suits your personality?
Oh, what a good question.
In D&D?
In D&D?
Yes.
And if you don't play D&D, yes, your best guest,
use World War to Warcraft, Race Class, Comber, or whatever.
And we'll let everybody answer this,
because I'm curious about everybody on this thing.
I'm, boy, that's how, Nash ruined me.
Because I played a disgusting human sorcerer with one eye.
Who's, yeah.
He lost his weiner.
And he kicked it under the bed. And he kicked it under the bed. He was so mad. That's where it still is. You're like, you know the story, right? He's a horrible, horrible man. He smells bad in all this. And Ben Bow's campaign, he made him worse somehow. And it's hard, though, for me to separate from that, because I had so much fun playing that character. But if I'm to pick one, I think I'm going, I like warlocks.
Yeah, I like warlocks.
I know people who like BG3 fans,
BG3 fans think warlocks are boring,
but I like them.
How about you, Brian?
What would your patron be?
Oh, my name.
Patron.
If you're a warlock,
that means there's something out in space or in hell.
Yeah, it's a hell thing, isn't it?
I'm so bad at these parts, the lore part.
And Liam's holding the mic.
This is terrible.
I just realized we should have declined this question.
Right, exactly.
I will defer my time to the senator from...
But you love the bard.
I love the bard.
I love the bard. I started doing a bard in the latest campaign with Tanner and Alex and Barry and Tristan and James.
Oh my God, a lot of them are here.
I don't know what race.
Like currently I'm a...
Barovian?
Yeah.
It's been a lot of weeks since we played because of Vermont trips and this and that sort of thing.
But race-wise, yeah, I don't know.
no. Anyone, anyone have a, what
race they think, D&D race they think
I'd? Tobaxi?
Tobaxi. I don't know
what that is, but okay.
Nicole's got some ideas.
Dwarf, she says.
You know, it'd be a good dwarf. I could do dwarf.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, what do they want to be done?
Monica?
I think every time I've ever played D&D, I've been,
how do you pronounce this? A. Asimar?
Yeah. And a sorcerer.
because I like to be at a distance and, you know, destroy people.
I'm just kidding.
Or die, which is what I usually do.
More sweet, Monica.
How about you guys?
Okay.
Race is always hard for me to pick, but I mean, I'm always, like, a short person,
so I usually will go with a short race,
so I'd either be, like, a halfling or a gnome.
And I guess, like a wizard or a sorcerer,
because I like making sparkly things,
and we'll go with the book thing, so I'll say Wizard.
All the Wizard fans.
I don't even know the words I'm about to say.
Oh, yeah, I forgot how great this is going to be.
I cheated.
I'm an elf cleric.
Oh, man.
Am I right?
I mean, she just looked at it up.
She's like, who's gooning over a Shadowheart these days?
All right, half-elf clerics, let's do it.
You should play D&D with us sometime, Wendy.
That'd be fun.
Yeah. Would you do it?
I would.
I'm going to not guarantee you one thing.
Bill, what do you roll in these days?
Bill.
Bill?
Bill, Bill, Bill.
Quit looking at the chat room, Bill.
I had a night elf rogue named Merkin that I really connected with.
Nice.
It took me a second.
Is that it?
Yeah, yeah.
I think personality-wise, because that was a question,
I tend to think of myself as a wizard,
but any time I play D&D, I'm always a paladin.
Just like World Warcraft.
You never play your paladin.
I'm always a paladin.
Yeah.
And as far as race goes, I always just,
I don't know anything about them,
so I just have someone else pick for me.
Because I just like to go with whatever.
So, yeah.
You're easy.
Yeah, I mean.
easy.
Yeah, yeah.
Go with the flow.
Who else is left in here?
I always pick a race I can just do a funny voice for.
Like this.
And so this, I play short races.
Who's at the end down there?
I can't see.
I'll take undead wizard.
Wizard.
For 100.
Bob X.
That's right.
I'm always a rogue thief of some sort.
Or, you know, Torin Hunter in Whaling Caverns.
Something like that.
Everyone knows that story, right?
He loves his Torin and.
The cavern.
Lealing cavern.
Yeah, and he's still there.
He's a big old cow skeleton.
Because he won't play anymore ever since he lost his guy down there.
It's like a level 12 dungeon or something?
I love it.
How about you, Travis?
I'm always playing either a gnome or a halfling and a druid.
All right.
You look like a druid.
Yeah, you do like a druid.
I meant that in a nice way.
Oh, Nicole.
Usually, paladin.
I like supporting.
I like healing the person that's killing the other person.
So like, Overwatch came to Fortnite and they dropped the staff.
And so I was always healing everybody that was killing everybody else.
I love it.
Are you a Mercy Maine when you play Overwatch?
I don't play Overwatch.
Man.
You're going to need to, I'm just kidding.
I don't need it really right now.
We'll see.
Do we have any other hands in the audience?
I'm going to go to the other side.
That was a great question.
That was a good workout for, William.
Are we supposed to eat the Oreo?
Oh, yeah. You can eat
Oreos.
You can eat.
Hi, my name's Gary.
I used to be with a company named Lantronics.
You may have seen me around.
And just to
help people fill out
their bingo cards, is it too early
for a fish sandwich?
Actually, yeah, it is.
It is actually too early.
Anybody, right?
Oh, maybe. Actually, the restaurant
might have fish sandwiches at this point.
Are we eating?
Hey guys, Wes, Burgessies on the chat.
Burgess.
Burgess.
Thanks, guys.
Incredible community, incredible breadth of shows and things you've created.
But listen for a while, but still don't think I've ever heard the origin of frog pants.
Is that something you can touch on?
Yeah, I give you a short version of it.
So, way back in the day, I wanted to make a bookstore with my wife.
Kim and I were talking about making a bookstore.
And it was going to be like a kids bookstore and super focused on kids' books.
and that kind of thing.
And we were just daydreaming about it.
I don't know if we really were ever going to pull it off.
But I said, well, let me get a domain that's cool.
And searched around, found this name, Frogpants.
And I just thought it was fun and whimsical.
And it seemed like that would be a fun marquee on a bookstore, Frog Pants, books.
You know, and kids could come there, and they'd have readings and author signings and all that fun stuff.
That was the original reason that domain exists.
But then I just hung around for a few years.
And in 2008, when I was getting ready to go,
full time with this.
My accountant's like, you need a name
so we can incorporate this and finish
this up. And I said,
oh, shoot,
I better have a domain for that. And I
went, well, it's the only domain I liked.
Everything else was like gurp.org and
just like dumb wow
stuff. And
he said, frog pants, LLC.
I said, yeah, I think that works. And that's literally
the thing. There was no fancy way
of getting there. It was just like it was a thing I had
and it was still fun to say. And it also
was unique. No one was calling
themselves that.
Yeah, that's true.
And when I was doing the comics and other stuff, the extra life
stuff, they were, that was
all, so the stuff was, the work was happening.
There just wasn't a name for this yet. So,
frog pants just stuck. So there you go.
That's the story. It's not as exciting as you
probably had hoped, Wes.
Oh, yeah, support Andy McSaur.
We're over here now.
All right. So this was really just an
excuse to get Liam right over my shoulder.
Thank you, Liam.
Hey, Doctor.
Quick question for anybody on the panel.
Name one phrase or session or segment or episode of TMS from the last year that really had an impactful, meaningful change to your life.
Oh, that's interesting.
COVID for me.
Yeah.
Over the past year?
Oh, past a year.
Well, it feels like we still...
I don't know.
What's time?
I don't know what's happened in the past year.
It's been a long year, Bobby.
That's a hard question to answer.
It's easy to just want to say the different windy ones, but they are the ones that I really look forward to them because they end up being, I can integrate them.
There are always things that can help everybody.
It's not just for the person writing in.
It's not always just for the problem we're describing.
And I'm trying to think of one in particular.
I think I even texted her pretty quick after, but I don't remember what it was.
But there was one from last year that just rung a bell for me.
and since then has continued to ring that bell
and I cannot remember the subject
but this bell won't shut up
but I think yeah I think it was a windy thing
that sounds like the easy cop-out answer
because that's the most helpful segment
but it's such a hard thing to do because
you know it's different segments
it's Wendy a lot of times and it's the
you know it wasn't even for me a segment
I mean it was the course
Wendy the
the time management course was fantastic
No better you.
No better you.
Nobodyu.com.
I still use all that stuff today.
Awesome.
Still using the to-do thing based on the flight traffic controller deal at Kate P
helped modify and improve.
And I know she's in her somewhere.
But yeah, that's one for me.
Thank you.
Anybody else got anything?
Sure.
I do.
I just wanted to say, it's because of Wendy that I went to therapy.
and therapy helped save my life.
So I grew up in a family, you know, you really take the stigma.
As much as we are like, oh, yeah, mental health, but it's hard to do.
It's really, really hard to do.
And I probably, I was in therapy for about a year and a half.
And even my therapist was like, you're supposed to be getting better.
What's going on?
I'm like, I kept going, you know, I kept going, my family supporting me.
but I grew up in a household where you didn't go to therapy.
You just kind of rub some dirt in it and you kind of pushed on until you can't.
And then you're like, what's going on?
Nothing's working anymore.
So a lot of the things that you talk about on that segment helps a lot of people.
So I just want to know you helped me tremendously.
Oh, thank you.
Makes me excited for something we're working on, but we can't announce that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Can I say this, though?
Johnson, Paul.
Johnson pulled.
I've had a number of you tell me the same thing
I was your first therapist.
So real quick, raise your hand if I was your first therapist.
Oh, man.
That's awesome.
Was I your second?
Anyone?
Am I your second?
How dare you?
I should have been your first.
Thank you.
That's really sweet.
Yeah, but how many of you chased her around the house
with a cold soldering iron?
Come on now.
Oh, my brother's back.
I just noticed my brother smiling in the back.
My brother, everybody.
Yay.
All right, who we got next?
Right here, right here.
Hi, my name is Teresa,
aka Rochtess.
I am not a gamer.
I am gamer adjacent, obviously.
But I remember when Scott first said
he was going to give up his day job,
and that was buzz out loud days, so that was cool.
So I know a lot of you have been fans for a long time,
but I'd like to shout out to distance.
Who are the fans,
international fans that are furthest away or anything you want to say about international.
And then who here has come the furthest internationally?
Oh, goodness.
Bobby Zote, well, hold on.
Zoe, where is?
It's pretty far.
How far are you?
Give me the miles.
I'm sorry, the kilometers.
The kilometers.
Oh, Bombie's from, um, oh, Wesley.
Sorry, Wesley's from Belgium.
Belgium farther?
Yeah.
Go waffles.
Yeah.
Yeah. We got two Belgians this year, so we're collecting them.
That's right. Yeah, it's a weird year because we usually get a lot more international.
We're about 80 people shy of what we would normally see from Canada. A lot of Canadians that we're able to make it this year for various reasons.
Some of them were things completely out of there and our control, and I don't blame them at all.
But we miss them terribly. But it is still nice to see you 12-hour flight people showing up, you know.
20-hour drive, you win.
Yeah.
All the way from Missouri.
And with audio in the back corner?
Hi, I just...
You all play a lot of video games,
so my question is,
do you have any superstitions
for games you play frequently
that you absolutely believe?
That's funny.
Wait, did I miss the...
Superstitions he had.
Oh, superstitions.
Interesting.
Then if I...
If I actually finish ghosts of Shishima,
that the actual world will end.
So I'm afraid to finish it.
I get so much heat for that.
Everyone's like, I've even had three people here just behind me walk out and go,
Sashima still burns and then they walk the other way.
So one day I'm going to beat that game, but I'm worried about what's after that.
So we'll see.
Anybody else got any superstition?
Gambling's superstition, but not.
I don't know that it's a superstition so much as like a reflex,
but like my husband laughs at me because like if I'm playing anything that's like
remotely twitchy,
my leg just flies up and I'll be on the couch and just all of a sudden my leg is like
and I don't even know I'm doing it.
He's taken video to prove it to me,
but I still don't really believe it.
Okay, sure.
So if I lose too many times in Fortnite, I change my skin.
Oh, smart.
It proves.
and then the next one I'll win.
It is a proven tactic.
It works every time.
Dap punk is my skin of choice.
Oh, is it?
Oh, that's about the only daft punk we get these days.
Those guys are like my age, man.
They're not going to come out again, are they?
Or are they? Is there some talk of that?
Somebody told them now.
Oh, really?
They took the helmets off. I'm done with them.
Is it daft or punk?
I hope it's daft. I like him the most.
You have one?
Silver one went solo.
No.
It went solo.
What is he called?
What's he called?
They just call him the silver one.
He's got the beats.
I don't know if this is a superstition, and I don't know if anyone else does this, but my, my Q-W-E-R buttons, I flip them upside down because I can't have to know where they are and I need to feel them differently.
Does anybody do that?
Am I the only one?
No, that's a super-stitian.
No, that's really clever.
Thank you.
Thank you.
But I have to do that, so I can, I know where to can still hit the wrong button.
You can feel the different.
No wonder you're dating.
a guy from Belgium.
He likes the way you do...
His keyboard doesn't even...
They have different keyboards over there.
So...
Do they?
The buttons are slightly in the different spot.
Like, there's... I forget...
Yeah, it's weird.
What'd you do that for?
Quirty or die.
Only inches while you're here, buddy.
Giggedy.
So we're about to...
While we're taking our next question,
we're about to try these things
that I think Hammond brought these, right?
No, these are from Brain.
Hoffford. Okay.
And they look like teeth.
Completely on a separate note, could we get
something to spit food that tastes bad
into? Is there any
So there's no connection
between this and the spit bucket, right?
I'm sorry. Everybody has to try it. This is compulsory.
Yes. Oh, boy.
What did you say it was? Do you know
what this is? Do you know what it is? I do know what this is. But you're not going to tell
us? No.
Shite.
All right.
what these are and the
I filled out the form that said what I'm
allergic to so I'm not scared
to anything that anybody put on their form
there's. There you go.
And this is
how TMS ends.
It doesn't have a smell.
It's better.
Oh, God.
Yeah, what's going on there in the midst?
Wait.
What is it?
This is Malort Losingen's.
Oh, my God.
All right, so we're doing this.
Oh, we're just set that down.
Malort.
I'm already having it.
How dare you.
Now hear me out.
It started out like guava.
You know what?
And got progressively worse.
It's battery acid.
Oh, pass that cup.
These are not good.
I don't actually hate this.
Is that me and something's wrong with me?
Oh.
I'm going to pass the donuts around if you guys need the Tali Hunter.
You got to understand.
I grew up in a house of, like, my brother Matt is from Korea.
We go to these Oriental stores, what we used to call them.
and we'd buy the weirdest candy
and this tastes like that, this is all right.
I don't think it's just that bad.
I like Mallort.
There's a pencil shavings kind of component to it, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Maybe I like pencil shivers.
It barely tastes like Mallor.
I can definitely see why you like it.
While you are savoring the taste of Mallord,
I have another question from the back corner.
There we go.
Hey, thanks.
This is Tim or Kiko in the Corps within Raid Guild.
Woo.
Bobby.
Yeah, thank you, Bobby.
That's my hunter.
Yeah, that's my hunter.
My hunter, my hunter.
Yeah, right?
I have a bit of an unusual situation.
I started recently working at an AI company,
and I'm working on personality architecture.
And so I wanted to ask you guys,
and I guess this is for Liam as well.
If you had to train an AI entirely on your content,
What personality trait would it find most annoying?
Annolly.
My constant ums.
Right, Hammond?
You know what?
This is pretty bad.
Hold on.
Oh, it's terrible.
It's terrible.
It gets worse the longer you do it.
Man, my most annoying.
I think it's,
Wendy and I share this a little bit.
It's a Johnson trait,
and we've talked about it before,
but we tend to fill space
if it's empty.
So people, we're in an awkward situation,
nobody's saying anything.
It just cannot stand.
Something has to be said.
And even dumb stuff has to be said.
Nerdtacular 2009, I think you were there.
Tom was there.
You were there.
I think Brian was there.
Oh, donuts.
Yeah.
Get the taste of Mallor.
Now these are Mallorke.
I'll clean it right out.
And we,
everybody was around the table.
Kim made Jambalaya.
It was a super fun little producers dinner we had.
before the event that year.
And that's back when we were still doing movie theaters.
And we were all just sitting around the table.
And we had one of those moments where everybody was talking.
We all know each other.
It's all great, having a great time.
And then suddenly it stops.
You know those times where it's just everyone at the same time
ran out of things to say?
And I went,
my dog's afraid of plates.
Yeah.
And I took a plate and threw it on the floor
to show them how the dog would run from it.
It was a paper plate.
And it works.
She went, whew, took off.
And then I kind of turned her.
that story this morning.
It was embarrassing.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, I do.
I was actually thinking about it this morning
and like, why was Scott so embarrassed by that?
I thought it was kind of funny that his dog ran away.
I mean, I did too, but it just the idea,
if somebody said, man, dogs are sure weird.
Oh, really?
Check out this with the plate.
I didn't have any lead in.
So it's like a comedian where you bomb
and then you're like,
so what's the deal with me?
So that for me is probably the trait
the AI would go, man, I don't want to train on you.
You talk too much.
You're in 450 of Wendy's pages.
What is that about? That's insane.
Anybody else have what you don't want
the AI? I mean, none of us want the AI to do anything
with us or our personalities, but...
I've actually asked you at GPT this very
question, and it said that I'm too argumentative,
and I said it was wrong.
So you're humanity.
That'll teach them. Yeah.
About you, Dunoway.
Humanity. It hates it.
No, it doesn't like.
It doesn't like humans, does it?
It does it? Flesh and blood, creativity.
Well, it does like it. It just looks like to slurp it up and poop it out again.
We're making a real stand right here on this thing.
Let's get who's next. Who we got?
I'm back here. I will say, though, if AI studied me, it would just agonize over its own choices, never get anything done.
So maybe we should have AI study me.
I had thought of that.
Hello, hello.
So I have a question about the structure of TMS.
So I remember the first episode, I think I was in seventh grade and the throes of puberty, so I might be wrong about this.
But my impression was that the host would rotate or your co-host.
And that you would cycle through, you know, frog pants host.
How dare you?
Yeah, you're still here, right?
Is it my turn yet?
I'm just curious, like, how has TMS change?
Well, so in those early days, there was one factor with Brian that we got rid of pretty quick, which was, because part of my sales pitch to Brian was, I talked to him, I said, I've been wanting to do a morning show forever. I hate real morning shows. I want to do our own thing. Do you want to do this? Because I knew that he and I had similar schedules, time zones, all this stuff lined up and we're friends. We already been doing film sack. So it made sense. So I reached out to him. And I said, and the way the pitch was like, and look, you can just be Brian in the booth. You don't have to. You know, like, I was like saying, you don't have to do anything.
I could just sit and laugh and hold a coffee cup.
Yeah, yeah.
Because in my head that was like a thing you could do.
And I couldn't even anyone better with like a funny quip
and quietly back to his coffee, you know, that kind of arrangement.
But that was dumb.
And it didn't last.
So ever since then, it's only ever been me and Brian.
The only difference is some of the guests have changed and the rotations have changed
and what days they're on and all that.
But, you know, it's me and Brian every day.
And there have been things that have come and gone even like a segment
like what word of the day.
We had word of the day.
Veronica's video game thing.
Ice worm.
Had a thing.
Where she said.
What was that?
Oh, Trekner.
Oh, Trekner.
All I heard was.
All I heard was.
Tuck, Dirk.
Yeah, Trek nerd.
Yeah, Trek nerd.
I'm always trying to get him to come on again and just say howdy.
He's just busy.
But, yeah, it's evolved.
Things have changed.
Wendy's has never left.
Tom's has basically been the same.
Bill used to tell us to eat right and work out.
Now he tells us to go blow plastic into a thing.
Where those donuts go, huh?
So things change.
I mean, that's true.
Recommendals has never really been any different.
And juries is an interesting one because when he started,
he came to us and said, hey, can I do this?
And he wants to do the weird things thing and bring on like some weird story every day
or every other whatever we did every Tuesday.
And we did that for a while.
And then the politics bug bit him hard.
And he was like,
I want to do that.
And then those segments became controversial in the chat
because some people would take things wrong
and it got real weird.
But those were really amazing.
That was an amazing run that we had there.
And I miss anyone who's not doing anything
and I love who we have now.
Like it's always just kind of been good.
You're sad that one drops off or has to change.
When Veronica moved to Canada,
we all mourned a little.
But, you know, she's fine up there.
She's doing great.
All stars will never be the same.
Yeah, all stars.
You want someone to complain about rules this year?
We don't know who the Veronica of this year is going to be.
Curse number five.
One of my favorite guest is Randy Jordan, who always fills in for me.
Yeah, of course.
And should be up here right now, eating this.
His cosplay is the Doseki's guy, I think.
Look at that, dude.
Look at this fancy guy.
Holy moly.
You don't want me on the show because I take over the.
the show, right? I have to say, good morning, morning street.
There you go. Nice. Nice.
And just one other thing I want to say, because I saw a bingo card, you brought up dazed and
confused. I don't think we've sacked that. We have. Yeah? We have.
You might be thinking of, what's the one that we limit? You might be thinking of limitless.
I'm just trying to help these.
Oh, okay. Nice try, though. Also, I'm looking forward to your guest spot next, the next white
Lotus season. I can't wait for that.
Everybody on that show dresses
like that. It's not a bad thing.
And I love your fried chicken.
Yeah.
I did want to ask you, so
is there anyone who's been on
as a guest on TMS
more than me? Like, I would guess
I've been on about 350 times, something like that.
Something like that. I mean, if you count, if you're
not talking like a regular
like Wendy's segment style segment, because she's
easily had the most, but it's probably
between you and Daryl.
Those Daryl numbers are pretty strong.
But I think it means more like someone who didn't have a regular segment.
Oh, I see.
And yeah, it's definitely got to be you.
But I'm trying to you'll say.
I think that's about right.
I mean, Bobby subs in for Brian a lot.
So, like, if we're talking about like the unexpected, you know,
the surprise guest appearance that's not like a regular segment.
Yeah.
We can smell your influence every time.
Speaking.
What a great segue.
Oh, a segue into.
Smelly Thing.
From Hammond, some fried chicken candy.
Fried chicken.
I'll have you open this up and we'll start passing your house.
So Nicole will start with you and me.
Oh, we've got to get you water.
Kim.
I have not, here, I haven't touched this.
He's touched it with other parts of his body.
Oh my gosh, this can smells like chicken.
I know.
And the things are wrapped in there.
Is this actually made of chicken?
Well, you...
Oh, that's a really good question.
Hammond, thanks for this.
This is better than yogurt soda.
I can promise you that.
So bad.
There's no list of ingredients, so...
At your own risk.
Good luck.
Yeah.
Okay, that's...
That's really...
That's foul.
You see what he did there?
Did you do that on purpose?
It's like meat-flavored candy.
And it's like the hard candy your grandma had all glued together because it was humid.
It's like that texture.
Don't puke.
Oh, God.
No one's allowed to puke.
There's one left.
It starts out again.
It starts out like, oh, okay.
And then no.
Quickly gets bad.
That has to be satisfied.
Did everyone try it?
That only touched my tongue and it was horrid.
Horrid.
So that's just a joke thing, right?
There's no way people sell that.
Well, Archie McPree sells it.
Ooh.
Yeah.
No.
What are the reviews on those?
Whereabouts are those,
yeah, one-star reviews.
Why would you do that?
How did that get a star?
Why?
Nicole's got questions.
Well done.
Do we have...
We get another question?
We're over here.
Excellent.
Hello.
I'm Lisa, El Fleming in the chat.
Speaking of morning stream segments,
is there any theme segment
that you haven't done that you would like to do sometime.
Oh, interesting.
We, um, every time we think everything, we, every, what was it?
Who's it?
What did you say?
I missed it.
Cloacas.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Dr. Nicky's segment.
We could do a Dr. Mickey, uh, Cloaca specialty segment.
Uh, if you don't know what a cloaca is, look it up.
I like the infrequency that 3D printing comes up as it wouldn't want anything regular, but I do like the,
It is a right, yeah.
I agree.
The pre-show, we use a lot for that.
There's a lot of 3-D printers here.
We got some stuff happening in the game room.
That's 3D-printing related from Mike Picholich.
Like, 3-D printer here.
Yeah, you guys can go check all that out.
But can you smell the chicken?
Yes.
Can you smell what the chicken is cooking?
I smelled it as I ran by.
It is one of the worst things that's ever happened.
It smells a lot like fried chicken,
but I don't know what it tastes.
like the true or tactical curse
right here.
I get some yogurt soda to wash the taste of the side of my mouth.
Forget about elevators, forget about earthquake,
slides,
sliding slides as this.
That is, that is.
But yeah, that's actually a really good one
because I love, we love talking about 3D printing.
Would we want a whole segment?
Maybe, maybe not.
I mean, Bill's kind of sits in for that sort of anyway
because he's always 3D printing stuff.
But it's hard to say every time I've thought,
ooh, science would be cool, we fill it.
That's one we talked about for years.
Apps.
Well, we had, yeah, we had apps.
We had that for a while.
The problem is the Apple is so crazy now.
Yeah, sorry, Steph.
New segment coming your way.
But, yeah, it's hard to say.
I feel like we have such a great roundup right now.
I don't feel like anything's super lacking right now.
There's nothing.
I don't feel like there's anything we're not really covering.
Yeah, and stuff that we want to cover,
but also we think you guys will like and these personalities that you like,
like we're not.
I mean, you know, bringing back an occasional cooking with Ken segment.
Yeah, I'd like that.
Oh, yeah.
Nice.
I don't know where she is, but Kim and I...
She's back there making a casserole.
Is she?
Oh, there she is.
We want to get a skim back on track, too, so we're going to talk about that.
If you learned or had a segment for Gen Alpha Slangs.
So I have a 14-year-old.
And, oh, boy.
Six-seven.
Six-seven.
That's all I've been hearing, this whole 20-hour car ride.
six, seven.
Dan does that too.
At age seven,
you're super into it.
Scuba?
I don't know what that was.
What is that?
Oh, no.
That's what I'm old.
We're all,
we're all out of it, man.
I think that'll be funny to test you on
Jenna Alpha.
Taffy.
Just Taffy.
Just healthy taffy.
Just regular old taffy.
Good healthy taffy.
It gets the chicken out of your mouth.
Pallet,
anything smells better than that.
By the way, the smell
has reached the first row.
It is. Welcome to the splash zone.
Hey, guys, if you can smell the chicken, raise your hand.
I am so freaking sorry.
We're going to seal this up.
Hey, Scott.
Toss on the bottom.
Here, you got something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's hilarious.
Hey, Scott, I know because our good friend,
James of same-sex Mary is showing us in the back
that we have five minutes left,
and I know we have some giveaways, right?
Yeah.
We're going to do that right now.
So every one of us pull the name.
But real quick, this young man here had his hand up for straight 40 minutes.
Right in front of you there.
Can we just do him real quick?
Go for it.
One last question.
Thank you, Andy, Jason.
Scott, at one point you had mentioned you and Kim were going to be writing hopefully a children's novel.
Do you still have that on the back burner or something that you might be doing?
It's probably confusing because there's two book projects.
One is a cooking book with Kim that I would illustrate.
The other is a children's book that I'm writing that Carter's going to illustrate.
Oh, wonderful.
And the book is the story, the draft that we need to do some editing on, but the main draft is complete.
She just has to, the next step is we're going to do a bunch of art for like just kind of plan it out
and decide what's going to happen with what, get some character art done and all that.
Our goal is to kickstart or do something with that thing before the end of the year.
Wonderful.
So good to hear it.
You guys are going to love it.
I wish I could give you more hints about what it's about.
Just know, if you know me well enough, you know that it's, you'll hear it and go,
of course he did that.
But I'm so, so excited about it.
I can't wait.
So watch for that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Do you have any gross smelling stuff?
You'd like to throw it?
No, I gave it all the brine.
Yeah, I just tested it.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you, though.
Thank you, Chuck.
Thanks for chucking that.
All right.
Well, I think that brings us pretty close.
Oh, we did these giveaways.
Giveaways, yeah.
we just got some rando stuff. Joe, where's Joe?
A leather guy, Joe. Joe Gates. Joe Gates.
There he is right there.
Joe for years of making these amazing flasks.
Some of these are from a long time ago.
I still have all the ones you made at home.
I love them. I have them all, like, arranged in order and stuff.
Order of the shows I released them in.
I have an artacular one.
Anyway, I've got my hand a sword and laser one.
Brian's got a current geek.
Current geek.
Current geek.
What do you got?
Current geek.
We're all just going to give one to a name.
So here we go.
Tell you your name.
Tabitha Nisci.
Yeah, Tama!
Awesome.
She just got married.
Steve Rikl, sorry, Rikeberg.
Nice.
Reichberg.
Yabor!
Where's Steve?
No, Steve, not here?
Oh.
All right.
Steve Rakeberg.
Go ahead, Brian.
The Neil Meister.
The Neil Meister.
Making copies.
Where's Neil?
Can I make a quick comment real quick?
I just want to say, I made you guys all yellow in the Discord.
Your names are yellow.
People have been asking why.
And this is about the jugs of pee.
You're welcome.
You've got to do it like, this is about the jugs of pee.
This is about the jugs of pee.
There you go.
Nice job.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing this correctly.
Craig Savignon.
Savignon.
That was pretty, was that pretty good?
Did she get your name?
Close enough.
Oh, Sauvignon Blanc?
Sauvignon.
Sovignon.
Like Dunaway says, we know what you meant, right?
Is that what you mean?
Context.
Context, exactly.
All right, what do you got there?
Shane Maddox.
And he deserves this.
Thanks again to Blizzard for that.
They gave us a ton of these.
They're really cool.
I don't think they're making them again, too.
Kind of one of a kind.
This guy was in one of my No Better You classes.
Cody Georgeson.
He's like, I don't want to...
He's in the heart of us.
He's a silent walk.
This is really cool.
This is the old Punished Prop's logo,
and it looks like Joe made this in 2014,
and I have its twin at my house.
And I get to
the Flask siblings with Brooke Kane.
We're getting the wraps.
You can do the next one.
They're walking, yeah.
Yeah, let's keep it moving because we got to wrap it up.
The World Warcraft Wrath of Litch King Cinematic Art Book.
I've got another one here.
It goes to Jay Terry.
Jay Terry.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right.
Tom Robinson.
Tom Robbinson.
Nailed it.
Tom. Tom Robbinson.
Cool shirt, Tom.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, that shirt's awesome.
Love it.
I've got a current geek flask.
Don't know if I'm saying this right or not.
Flash Gordon.
No, it's Rod Davenport.
And one more current geek flask for Jonathan Meyer.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm going to get us out of here so that everybody can get to stuff.
There's the lunch bag.
Oh, go, please, yes.
So if you haven't won something yet, there's still a long weekend.
But we've got more bracelets, not the same bracelets that you got out.
say these are also from Joy. These have the
3D printed frog on them
that came off of my printer and were
pulled off of there by my
sweaty little hands.
We were going to throw these, but come up and get
one. There's enough that I think everybody will be able to
grab one. Yes, please.
Come tape on. Mystery Chase, dark green
frogs because I ran out of the bright green
filament. These are
really nice and awesome. They did a great job. Thank you, Joy.
I went smooth federation posters out there
from 2012, Scott and my
first art collaboration.
Club, yeah. And they're free. They're free.
Help yourself. I am not taking any home.
And Carter's got a little thing of other free
stickers and some other stuff too, so if you
do it, it's a Halloween rule.
You don't take the whole bowl and dump it in your bag,
but you take a thing, right?
Take the whole bowl of posters.
Exactly. Take the bowl of posters.
Brian is not driving those back to Denver.
I just want to tell you guys how grateful I am for you.
The TMS audience in particular
at large and also that are here on the ground
to all of you. To all of you,
to all of you up here on the table.
Thank you all for being a part of this thing for so long.
I love it.
We're not going to ever end.
I want to thank our wives, Tina and Kim in particular,
because I don't think we get to do this without them.
They really do help us fuel it.
And what's up next is the lunch break.
Be back here at 1.30 for Core and more.
Be myself.
Corrois.
DeLean will be up on stage with us.
We'll also have Randy Jordan,
the aforementioned very sexually dressed man.
and play retro
Brian Dunrow
and I'll be there
it's going to be great
can't wait to talk you about
as big guys a month more game
Stephanie you can go take that whole hour off
or whatever you're going to do
lunch tacular folks
if you have any questions
about that particular
add on that you got
when you got your tickets
just track down either Bobby or Kim
they'll help you go
where you need to go
and I think that's everything
thank you all for listening
we'll see you next time
here on TMS
