The Morning Stream - TMS PM for 4-9-2021: Emergency Hole

Episode Date: April 9, 2021

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the morning stream. But it's not in the morning. It's at night. TMS p.m. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to TMS PM. Yeah, that's right. Some of you are like, wait, what's this on my feet again for? Well, we missed a day yesterday. That's right. We wanted to make up for it a little bit. It's Netgear's fault. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. Blame the router. Yeah, Brian had a router go poopie. And it's weird. Like firmware updates are usually no-brainers, right?

They usually go off without a hitch. And I look at the firmware update, and it's an hour and a half before TMS yesterday morning. I'm thinking, oh, no problem, right? Piece of cake. And maybe an hour before. But I'm still thinking, yeah, these things only take a minute. They're no-brainers, right? Nothing ever goes wrong.

It bricked my router. Yeah, so that was a lot of fun. And unrelated, somebody cut another line. They're doing all this construction out here. It's just constant growth. So around, I don't know, 11 o'clock, my internet went down anyway. I mean, we would have had the show done by then, but my internet took a huge dump and got a message of sharing it with Brian. And they said, hey, don't worry, we'll have it fixed by four.

I check it a half hour, hour later. Don't worry, we'll have it fixed by midnight tonight. And I was like, okay, well, I'll get the other old ISP wired down here and see what I can do for there. And I did. That's how we did core and some other stuff. It ended up coming back at about 7.30. So they beat their last estimate and everything's fine now. But I just kept thinking yesterday, what's going on?

Why are the tech gods against us? Why does tech lords use? Why do they want Brian to not have router? Why me not have internet? Why? man why you've got a you've got like backup uh isp situation going on there that's yeah it doesn't always i'm not always ready to use it because of the way it's wire but we we um when the painters came we decided to run a little hole so when we need it we can just very quickly plug it in whereas

before we had to go outside pull it through a window like it was a big mess i didn't have a natural way to wire the second isp but now it's just there so i have a cable over there that if this whatever it drops. I should be able to flip right over to it, assuming that they're not down. But a week ago, we had an outage where both were down because the main fiber box or whatever it is that controls everything for everyone, like shared, you know, two ISPs using the same infrastructure went, got cut. And so nothing worked. So even a backup ISP was no good for me that day. So all I had was my phone. Just the Wi-Fi coming on through AT&T.

It was just my phone. Anyway, all right. Hold on. Claire Gack says her boyfriend says I look like Michael Moore. I was hoping you wouldn't see that because that's about the thing anybody wants to hear. I do not look like Michael Moore. In fact, if I take his glasses off, I definitely don't look like him. If I put him on, maybe a little.

But he's like, he's like Job of the Hut, dude. I don't look like that guy. Repeat after me. Say, shame on you, Mr. President. Shame on you. I don't even think I don't want to. I don't want to do it. It's the only thing I can think of,

the only, like, famous quote I can think of from Michael Moore. I hate him. Shame on you, Mr. President. Here. And he mentioned to be like, your little goblin that makes bad documentaries that are poorly produced.

All right. Anyway, hey, we're doing it. We got a show to do. Dan will be here in a bit. So watch for that. Cool. I went and got my shot today. And second shot, the Pfizer, the German, there's German in my blood.

And I did that. Excuse me. And it made me burp. They're on air. No, not really. Oh, that's the side effect. Yeah, for sure. I got there, and I think I may have violated a hip.

I may have done a HIPAA violation. Let me ask you this question. Okay. All right. So I decided to record in the car a little diary episode of like, hey, we're going to get our shot. What do we think about it? What are we talking about? What did we expect?

Blah, blah, blah. Sure. We get there and I'm like, I could probably, you know, just in the little waiting space after the shot where they have you all spread out and sit in there for 15 minutes to see if you have a reaction or not.

Maybe I'll just pull out my phone and, you know, have a little chat with Kim. And I did. There's no video. It's just audio. And it was just like right here by our faces. And we're just talking to each other as if, you know, and we're the only two that would have ever heard anything.

And you can't hear anyone else because, again, we're all spread apart, 10 feet apart. Well, don't they hear. you go there's no violation right it's fine yeah i would say you're not violating anybody else's hippa right the only the only person who could claim it is you saying that you violated your own hippa by by disclosing your own medical information going that the date that you went to get your shot oh well good because i don't i don't care about me that's fine yeah so as long as you're not um hi sir what's your name oh and uh what do you hear for today i did make kind of fun of a guy who

walked in, who had an enormous head, and I made a comment that his mask fits worse than mine does, but that's not really violating his tippa. It's just, it is always funny to see people who, for some reason, get these little tiny masks, and it barely, like, it's on the peak of their nose, that if they move at all, it's going, fung, you know, it's going to slide down. If they say a word. Yeah, you're seeing the chin and the tip of their nose. Yep, they do like this. Here's an example. Let's say it's right here. Here's a mask. and they say hello they go hello

yeah exactly any sort of movement it's not what you want it moves it down exactly anyway I went fine everybody took care of us well it was super organized and the what oh the lady that gave me the shot she was awesome

she was this very nice lady who clearly from somewhere in Africa I could not tell you what country in Africa but a very African accent reminded me of South Africa it may have been but it was just really thick and awesome just an amazing accent and I didn't want her to stop asking me

questions because it was such a good accent and uh did you repeat the question please oh I'm sorry yes she was really nice man she was like ASMR quality voice and she was funny and at one point she said you're not afraid of needles are you and I said no and she said because if you're lying I'm going to come after you or some funny you know she's just being funny with me and and she was great So I can't complain and we had a hamburger after and I feel okay right now except really tired. So I don't know what that tired means, Brian. I'm either just tired because I'm tired. It could be it could be you're tired because you're tired.

It could be the precursor or it could be all you get from the shot. Yeah. It feels like it's soon like it's really soon after you get the shot because that was within the last two hours, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, let's see, 1230 was mine. All right, about three hours ago. About three hours ago, yeah, something like that.

but we got home. Well, it doesn't matter when I got home. And part of this could be I'm tired because I've been thinking a lot about it and making sure. I'm a little stressed. I want to make sure I get all my work done before something gets, you know, something hits me. Right. So I don't want to feel like I have to cancel anything else. I want to just all to go well.

And so I think maybe that's a little bit of the fatigue. And yeah, I keep hearing like tomorrow's the big fatigue day. Yeah. Don't try and watch the film sack movie tonight because if you zonk out, that means they're going to have to watch it again. I don't want to see SWAT twice. You'd be a double swat Yeah

I've never been swatted before Anyway So that's where we're at And we're happy to be here Doing a show for you guys So thanks for being here Nine days away Nine days

Nine days Nine days away from my second shot Moderna The Moderna The modern A Come on to get you Made we'll see I think he'll be

I'll bet you do great You're a hearty man You're a very hearty man I am I'm a hearty man. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't look at you and go, I don't look at you and go, oh, there's no constitution there. That wisp of a man will certainly crumble under the weight of his second vaccine.

Yeah. I think you've got this. Yeah, no, I've got it. And I'm going to get a burger afterwards, too, because there's a new In-N-Out burger that, I told you that last time, that's right by where I'm getting my shot. Oh, finally got some locale there on that location. That's good. Some locale. But I'm not going to get any low-cal thing.

No, no, no calories. Forget it. Be careful. May cause browsies. I know that voice. It's Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man, joining us, as he often does, about every other TMSPM. Welcome, Dan. Greetings programs. Hey, is it true? You also got one today? You got your last shot today? I did about 30 minutes ago. I got my second shot. Now, the talk is, at the place was, they said, hey, if you've got, if you've already had COVID, which you have, you're expected to react harsher to this.

Do you think that's, is there anything to do that? Oh, really? Wow. Is that a thing? Who knows? I mean, it's, we have, we know so little about everything. It's ridiculous how little we know. And so little, in fact, that I have to, you know, go on a little bit of a, off the rails a second ago, I mean, now, already, and say, if anybody out there, you know, I am a medical professional and I keep watching all this data. And at first, I thought all this Johnson and Johnson, the side effect stuff was hocus. But I would say, if anybody's an earshot, I would avoid Johnson and Johnson until further notes.

that's the that's the one shot one really yeah so they had some sort of contamination in one of their in one of their uh plants and they're going to shut down a lot of it and they have to get everything redone and i don't know if i honestly i can't say for sure that any of what's going on right now with the side of x has anything to do with that shutdown yeah but i would avoid that one if you can and there's plenty of ways to avoid it you can i mean there's plenty of places doing either moderno or fizer i myself got fizer um i didn't really care which one i got i just happened to not get Johnson and Johnson. But as of right now, I would say anybody out there, I would wait and not get Johnson and Johnson and just go with the Pfizer. To go back to your other point,

like you said, we just don't know. I would kind of expect that I would have a little bit more side effects. But after the first one, all I had was some joint pain. And you know, my arm hurting a little bit. My arm already feels like I get hit with a sledgehammer and it's been 30 minutes. So I don't know what's going to happen tonight. So the reason why I got it at my house, So I have an old workwife of mine. She works at a hospital right now. And she actually had some extra doses the first time. So she actually drove it to my house because they had extra vaccine doses.

And she gave it to Janice and I. So then she just happened to have, you know, of course, you got to give the second one. So today was the easiest day for her to come over. And she came over and gave us our shots today. You got freaking DoorDash delivery. Freakened. Door dash vaccine, baby. That's awesome.

That's great. That's great. That's awesome. Oh, yeah. I mean, for us, it was like a menu. So they've done thousands of doses, thousands if not, hundreds of thousands of thousands of doses over there at our hospital. And the big recommendation right now is, Scott, I could tell you, and Brian, for when you get your next one, before you go to bed, take a couple of doses of either ibuprofen or acetaminopin, some Tylenol, before you go to bed to try and stave off some of that, you know, not feeling great when you wake up. It could help with that little bit of vaccine hangover you may get tomorrow. So I would recommend that. If you're going to go to sleep early, because you said you're a little tired, if you're going to go.

sleep early. Just make sure put it, put it by your nightstand with some water, so you take it before you crash. It sounds like old people things, but yes, I would do it. Put it on your nightstand so that you can take it if you wake up in the middle of the night. I was going to say, I feel a little guilty.

Why Brian's old people always like Saul Rosenbergh. It's always some sour old Jewish guy. Should I bring all my glasses with me? I don't know what. Bring all my meds to the doctor.

I love that. But anyway, for here it was like a menu or tie it all for the next three days. Yeah, I'll definitely do that. But here it was like a menu. They said, what do you want? And we said, oh, we get to choose. They said, yeah, which one of the three do you want? And it was at the place.

And we said, oh, we'll just do the Pfizer, I guess. Everyone says, that's cool. Okay, go in that line. I've got lines for all three. And I feel a little bit bad about that because I guess some people don't have a choice. They're just like, well, all we got are these dirty needles we found on the back. alley they say Johnson and Johnson on my guess they were the ones you're going to get I think I feel bad about that I don't know how Utah snaked all the all three doses and made it's or all three

types so that we had you know the menu to choose from but yeah I mean at this point now it's pretty you know depending on a state in the availability you probably they probably just had doses of pretty much everything the reason why I stay away from Moderna is uh you know not necessarily stay away from Moderna like I'd rather Pfizer over Moderna is man those storage you know all the regulations with the storage, you're just so extreme that I'm like, and it possibly have never gotten to where it couldn't be for this long? Like, I get so scared, you know, when we ship out different biologics and stuff, like they can't get over a certain temperature.

And, you know, we have problems sending insulin to Texas from North Carolina. I'm like, man, I don't want to send some of these injections, though, but I don't trust how hot it's going to get. You know, and you go, you're sending some of these things, even though they have the biggest styrofoam box with a big old brick of these ice things. I'm like, yeah, sure, it's fine and all. But in the back of my mind, I'm like, is it really? Yeah, is it really?

Is old Bill going to slow down when he passes the flying J and park there too long and take a nap and all this? It's going to get warm back. Yeah, it's like you start going down a rabbit hole and you don't want to think about it too hard. But anyway, I'm glad we're all, we're all there, though, man. It's just shots and oh, it hurts actually to lift my arm. Oh, yeah. We're all going to, we're all going to be vaccinated against this horrendous thing and hopefully get to some, some immunity on a larger scale,

herd or otherwise. Don't care. Just let's do it. And I think we're starting to see some of that already in the society, you know, between the herd and all the ready people get in immunity. But it's going to put a damper, you know,

Brian, you probably, you know, what I've been doing lately is I've been trying to make sure I get on as many bike rides as possible. Just there's definitely something, you know, that gets in you where you just, you just got to go, got to go, you know,

even if you don't go more than like, I go like five, maybe six. seven miles most of time when I ride. You throw a podcast on on your ears and you just hammer down and you go. Now, there's definitely something that people talk about that. Riders high. You don't necessarily notice it,

but you do feel like you're doing something because I'm tired of being an old fat guy. I know more of that. Yeah, you and me both. And you even watched me down a massive burger at the Viewhouse. We'll be both down massive burgers. Oh, absolutely. I think we actually got the same

burger. But Um, yeah, no, it's funny. I don't notice the, the rider's high, the cyclist's high when I'm doing it or when I get home from doing it. I notice the absence of it on days like today when it's 40 degrees and blowing wind. And it's like, oh, I really want to get out and ride. But, you know, it's, uh, it's too cold to do it. So I get it. It's supposed to be warm tomorrow, though. I need to, you guys are inspiring me. I need to go fix my tires. They're both flat and, uh, get out. there and bike some yeah yeah i like i enjoy it that high get that natural high scott yeah that rider's high the only high that's legal in your state but i don't but i don't but i don't have those cool shorts and jellybum things you use on your on your butt what's that called the the goo you put in your unit the uh taint cream what is that stuff called the um gooch you have butt cream magic butt cream yeah it's like well it's something you put on if you're doing it but that's only if you do a long ride like if you're doing a

25 or or I only do it if I'm doing like more than 15 miles like a competitive or charity thing or whatever yeah yeah exactly sure um yeah Brian when you're doing like a 10 mile ride do you know are are you all geared up with uh you know butt pillows and gloves and everything else well I'm always I'm always wearing the the actual writing shorts even if I do a five mile I'm wearing the the bike shorts that have the padding in the keister I'm wearing the gloves I've got the the glasses with a little mirror on the side so I can see traffic so I'm doing that. You guys don't have like

greenways and stuff or do you always go on main rows? We do but we only basically if I do the green belt I'm going west or I'm going east and I'm always doing if I'm staying on just the path I'm doing one of two rides and it's boring so I try and do a mix

I can actually do I figured out like starting from my house four clover leaks Clover, Clover Leaks, Clover Leaks in all four directions of different sizes to say, all right, I'm going to go north

and then I'm going to go east, then south, and then west back home. I got a short version of that, and I've got a long version of that, in every direction. Are you all shocked to hear that Brian has a very organized plan for his ride? I mean, and I don't mean that in a negative way.

Like, I wish I was more like this. in a lot of ways, like, if you say to Brian, oh, Brian, what do you know about Pokemon Go or anything? Well, I've got beep, dupe, dupe, deep, deep, deep, dip, dip. All this stuff lined up to do, and it doesn't surprise me, but it's kind of great as well. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm the guy who makes a spreadsheet when they play a video game that, like,

all right, I need this piece and this character and this shard and this and that and the other thing. Yeah. I feel like when I drive past or I ride past, like people going the other way, a lot of times, you know, you always try to give the nod, And I feel like whenever the real riders are going past me, and I'm wearing like lacrosse shorts and a t-shirt and the helmet, like I feel like I'm being judged by the riders every time they pass by. Like, oh, you don't have a gloves on or the butt hanging me over there.

So, yeah, I can tell my butt hurts after about 10 miles. And my hands are just killing me. Yeah. The only the only judginess, and I'm not a judgy person because I figure people got their own stuff going on. I don't know what their life is like. So, you know, I see somebody walking down the path without a mask. I don't think, oh, jerk, no anti-masker. I think, oh, maybe they got the vaccine already, or maybe they can't wear a mask for some reason or whatever.

I actually only wear the mask when I'm on a path, on a green belt where other people are walking. When I'm alongside on the street, I don't wear it. Well, God bless you. I mean, even when I'm riding on a path, I'm like, I feel like I'm going so fast that there's no particles coming out of me that's getting in anybody. Exactly. You know, and now that I've had that, you know, shot number two and post, you know, post-COVID and stuff. But, but, yeah, if I was walking in on a greenway or something, I would wear a mask. But, you know, when I'm in the hood or I'm just, you know, riding the bike, I'm just like, ah.

But, man, it's, it's funny that, like, there are people, you know, you have people riding the other way or walking the other way. They won't make, like, what do you think I'm going to do? I'm just trying to be nice and say hi. Exactly. It's not like downtown New York City. I'm like, say hi and everybody, too. And it's like, sometimes people just, but. I'll finish my thought earlier.

So the only thing I'd be judgy about with people is seeing people riding without a helmet because it's like, ah, dude, you fall, and you're going to hit, and that's, you know, concussion,

crack noggin, or worse. So, yeah. Oh, yeah. So wear helmet, people. That's all.

That, like physically makes me angry when I see people riding without a helmet on. Yeah, because you know they're going to pop, smack, and then bleed all over everything

and nobody wants. Especially parents with little kids. And the parents aren't wearing and the kids aren't wearing it's like all right you guys are doing it wrong yeah i got bad news for you unlike covid uh banging your head on the cement is worse for kids than uh yes exactly you know they're not fully formed so do you guys have this uh the swath of cloud of pollen all over the place in in uh in utah and in nal a little bit oh my god yeah it's not it's not the worst ever this year it's actually okay but it's yeah and spring

always brings the bloomin onion man it's gets pretty bad here for a bit Yeah. And I don't know why, because it wasn't like we had a very, we didn't have a very crazy winter or, you know, I mean, March was a little cold at times. But it's, it wasn't so bad where winter, I mean, you know, spring should have been delayed. But it seems like everything's delayed. And now everything's just releasing all at once. And it's just a big yellow and orange cloud everywhere. And of course, like, I see people go into the car wash. I'm like, are you insane? Two minutes later, it's just going to be yellow again. Yeah. Yeah. What are you even doing? why bother? Why even shower? I'm just going to get dirty again. Well, I can tell you this, even though spring is here, even though vaccines are here, even though we're all, you know, we're all looking to some progress. There's still a weekend you wanted to spend at home playing board games. And thankfully, Dan also comes prepared with a game or two to recommend to us here. Before we get to that, though, hey, rock runners just busted through its fourth stretch goal and is almost to its fifth.

So if you want to support that damn thing Congratulations. Yeah, now would be the time. We're going to add some other stuff as well. Where did I put that list? I had a list of the new card names and I don't have it here or I'd share it with you. But adding a whole bunch of stuff to it

and even cooler things now that we've gotten where we are. So head on over there and check it out. Frogpants.com slash rock runners to check it out. I can't wait for Dan to get a copy so he can play it and tell me what he thinks. Absolutely. I can't wait to get a copy. Anyway.

So another Kickstarter, not that this is a competitor at all, not to mention a Kickstarter when yours is going on, but I think there could be some good overlaps. For people that back this could back yours as well. Oh, nice. But finally, the Sentinels of the Multiverse Definitive Edition, it's got about two weeks to go. It is well, well-funded.

This is kind of so if you're like me, and I don't know if you are, Brian, if you're like me, I have way too much Sentinel's crap. I mean, my wife probably be like, if you back this, I'm like, kill you. But, yeah, I mean, I went, I didn't go. There's no all in on a Sentinel's definitive edition, which is good there, because there's only one level

where since the new Sentinel's definitive edition is kind of more of an entry level kind of they streamline some of the rules they streamlined how the graphic design on the cards and everything is so this is kind of a great entry point if you never did get on Sentinels and you never, you know you don't really want

to necessarily get all the stuff, the old game but this is a great entry point there's also an app for the original Sentinels in case you just want to try that out and it's also on Steam it's an amazing game there's kind of a it was like an RPG on Steam this is a little different Sentinels in a Multiverse, kind of the card game is on Steam by itself and also on iOS,

probably Android and stuff too. But you can definitely pick that up. But this is a, this definitive edition is really solid. They've got about, I think there are six or 12 heroes that are going to be six villains. There's 12 heroes, six villains, some environments. And there's some new variant cards and event cards, which is kind of a little bit of a change to the, to the rule system where they're kind of adding these events in there. And they have these dials and a lot of the chit.

So they try to make some of the extraneous kind of chits and crap that's been all over the place in regular sandals. They're trying to decrease that a little bit and make sure that people really know how it plays. But this is one that I would definitely check out as well. So you still feel pretty good about the way that those were translated digitally. I have the PC game, but I have to admit I haven't played much of it, not because I just kind of keep forgetting that I have it. Do you still recommend those? Do you think they're? Yeah, it's it takes a little while to play that game, but the fact that it's on the, it's digital, it makes it a lot of easy.

easier. But I'm pretty sure there's a really good tutorial that teaches you a lot of things. And it's a pretty simple game because it's basically like draw a card, play a card, use a power. That's basically all you're doing. However, as you're chaining different things in every hero has their own little schick to it.

They have the flash analog. They've got the Superman analog. They've got the Batman analog. They've got a little bit of everything. But everybody, like the Batman analog, has a lot of equipment that they use. There's a Haka, who's kind of like one of the tanks. I think he's a Hawaiian, kind of one of the tanks he's got all these other different things that you kind of get into play

and then they play off of each other so it's it's really cool how uh how you get a lot of chaining the the effects and and the villains are all different there's like i mean there's a bunch of different villains you can use and they all play a little bit different and it can be very hard of course like anything else when you play a game like that way that's kind of that co-op kind of feel sometimes the cards can just screw you and you're just going to lose but other times uh you know you can really come up with a good way to use the heroes and you use you can play it solo with three heroes, and it's not all that difficult. And they have different heroes that have different difficulty levels, especially in a

base game of Sentinels, where you can just learn it real easy. And again, a computer take care of all the, it's not like playing on tabletop simulator where you've got to do everything yourself. Right. The game of Sentinels, it takes care of all the rules by itself, and it's really, really good. Okay. I need to just crack it open and try it finally. Because I got it on sale, and I went, oh, yeah, Dan always tells me this is great.

I should just grab this. And then I just haven't played it. So, like a lot of steam stuff. I think you can play at multiplayer, but I would even bother. I would just go ahead and just play that by yourself. Again, it's a good one where you're sitting in a waiting room for your next shot, or if anybody out there is waiting to get standing on the line waiting for their shot, it's a good one to play there.

You talk about the, you know, your wife is saying, okay, are you done buying more sentinels of multiverse crap? I'm sending, I tried sending it in our Discord, and it didn't work. I'm trying it again here. But I'm posting a photo of the rest of the Kickstarter. that just arrived for Marvel United. And was that done? I didn't know that was done. I thought that was a,

I don't know what I thought. Yeah, no. Oh my, that's a lot of stuff. Wow. Each of those top boxes contains between four and six additional minis. That bottom box, the really big box, contains about, I don't know, 50, 60 additional minis.

So, you know, I just finally get the eight done. they came in the original box and uh now you're never leaving the basement painting yeah it's like 75 more 75 more characters than I have to sit there and paint yeah you're gonna I know what you're gonna be doing you're gonna be busy painting everything yeah and it's a shame I don't live closer man I would love to play this game we would just spend the whole weekend playing the game but you know I know you can't play it until after you paint them and all but no not at all that's not true at all you can totally totally paint uh play with them before you paint well look Dan it's not like they, um, you know, they're, move to California, or the, to California, move to Colorado.

They got, they need people like you. So everyone's got, yeah, we could use you guys here. Yeah. Come, come. Hell, I'll get a license and I'll just open up a dispensary. It'll be all good. That's your own right. Exactly. Yeah, why not? Push some of the, uh, the herb here instead of the, that's right. Uh, but I do have another superhero thing for you guys. Ooh, cool. Okay. Uh, so this is another one that came out fairly recently. It's called X-Men mutant insurrection. because we went down that Marvel path,

so I figured we might as well get it. Oh, perfect. It was almost like I planned that segue. Well done. So this is by Fantasy Flight Games and Richard Lannius, the King Richard. He's the best.

Sir Richard Lannius and Brandon Perdue made this from Fantasy Flight. So this kind of takes, now Richard Lannius, you may recognize that name. He's the one that did Arkham Horror. He also did, oh, I'm forgetting it's the Eldritch Horror.

Well, not Eldridge Horror. There's a dice game that I'm completely, Elder Sign is the dice game that's basically kind of, heard of that somewhere oh it's really good also i'm not sure if the app's still out there but there's an app for that too it's really really good elder sign but this kind of takes elder sign puts it a little bit on its head and add superheroes to it because it's a kind of a co-op dice rolling where you're trying to uh you know every superhero i think there's 16 in a box and there's some sidekicks and such that you can get and uh you can use those in the game uh they have some standies but you're rolling dice to try and pass the different you know different uh obstacles and such they have you know each one of these tabs and that they have in the different areas. You have to roll certain symbols, and then you can get some upgrades, some other cards, and if you don't succeed, you can get hurt, or you can get some other barriers kind of that come out there.

This is a real solid game. I think it's a little less than $50 at most of your friendly local game stores, but, man, this is a very cool thing. I mean, I just love grabbing dice and just chucking dice, and especially got some superheroes to it, too. Yeah, no, that's great. That is really cool. I really got excited for a second seeing the first photo on board game geek.

They're like, oh, my God, look at those minis, but those are the hero clicks. Somebody basically just said, oh, use the hero clicks minis with this. But, yeah, just a simple dice chucker kind of game. Yeah, and it's, you know, it also feels kind of like the op put out. There was one, there's a, I'm trying to think it's a Thanos Rising, which is another co-op dice chucker, where it's, again, Marvel, you know, Marvel Basin, you're putting together teams of superheroes. And then kind of every round, Thanos is kind of attacking.

and trying to get the Infinity Gaunt together. So it kind of feels like that, too, because you're just building up your, you know, your own bag of, you know, a pool of dice to be able to roll in each one of these things and trying to attack the villains or try to keep Thanos away from completing. So there's plenty of different avenues you can do with co-op dice chakras for superheroes. But they also, actually, so they also put out a Star Wars one and a Harry Potter one from the op. Now, the Star Wars one where I think it's Empire Rising.

I don't think that was allowed in the U.S. But if you're crafty, you can get on Amazon DE or something, you can pick that one up and get it shipped over here. It's probably well worth being that it has a Star Wars license, probably well worth the extra shipping. But I'm pretty sure the Harry Potter one, which I think it's Hogwarts Rising or Baltimore Rising, whatever it is, Darkness Rising. It's one of those, but I think that one is also a very cool one to pick up. Just fun to just roll dice, and it's a very family weight game and just a ton of fun. I like dice. It looks like a blast.

I'll pick that. That one's one I'll have to pick up. I have a question for you that has more to do with, but it's more of an, not an esoteric question, but kind of a broader question. Because it reminded me of it. We're talking to all these, like, licensed properties, you know, Marvel and Star Wars and whatever.

Do you feel like, like in the video game world, there was a period there where license meant garbage? It just meant shovelware, terrible, we're all going to hate this. Capitalizing on, you know, an existing problem. property just so you can sell. Yeah, that was going to be the whole selling point is that it's Marvel, but you knew it was going to be like literally a bad game, and you just avoided them like the plague. And then something changed.

And I couldn't tell you exactly the game it was that changed it. It's a little like movies did with the MCU. Like superhero movies were kind of really hit and miss until they weren't. And then it was like, oh, okay, we're stepping up our quality. And now I can, now I can just blindly go to one of these and have a good time. Games made the same sort of shift not too long ago where, IPs now kind of get people excited about it, whatever it may be. So I'm curious, is that true in Tabletop as well?

Was there a shift at some point where everybody said, oh, well, traditionally all Batman games are terrible, but now, hey, Batman's cool and we make good Tabletop Batman games as an example. Well, there was definitely a shift where all IP games sucked and then all of a sudden out of nowhere they started getting better. I think there was kind of this wave of really good IP games. Now, the first company that started putting out really good IP games. I mean, obviously, Fantasy Flight kind of has some great IP games on their own.

But Gale Forest Nine started putting out some really good IP games. They did Star Trek Ascendancy, which is probably the best Star Trek game out there. They also did a couple of good D&D ones. I think they did one for, what was the, oh, my God, it's an FX show, was about motorcycles. Katie Segal was in it. Sons of Anarchy. Yes, they did a Sons of Anarchy game that is actually highly regarded.

So they did some, they also did a really good Doctor Who game. So that company is really good. And when it comes to Miniatures game, Mantic Games, Mantic Games is who does a lot of really good IP miniatures games. And of course, you get SEMON does some pretty good games depending on who's designing it. And also, again, fantasy flight. So you really have to look at the designer and a publisher because I would say that you're getting towards good IP games for the most part. There's still a lot of crap. like even even uh uh not a e g um uh top uh upper deck that's what it is upper deck who does all the legendary

games now the legendary firefly oh my god that sucked they have like legendary aliens which is great and some other legendary games are just amazing but yeah i heard that thing has a bad rep that firefly game like people what was so bad about it why was it such garbage i mean it just it was just so wonky and just didn't really play well. All they had to do really was kind of re-skinned sort of what they did with the aliens. So it's legendary encounters, so it's more story-based. Not like regular legendary, which is Marvel Legendary.

That's just a straight deck building game. You're kind of going against the big bad and they have a bunch of big bads. I've got millions of, sorry, Janice, I got millions of way too much. She's sitting behind me so she knows how much games. But way too much Marvel Legendary. But also the, and aliens came out. So aliens kind of protect everything and put

it on its head. Legendary encounters, aliens, and you're playing against the aliens and you were kind of playing through the first few movies and you could actually become an alien if you get a face sucker and then you can just become the bad guys are trying to kill everybody and then they put out Firefly

Oh my God, Firefly! What a big piece of crap that was. It wasn't like they skinned what they did with aliens. They were just, they were trying way too hard. It's like you get some of your crew and then the other crew that you don't have is actually who's part of your deck and it was just so convoluted

and the story cards just didn't make sense. It just sucked. But there's a really good, Gelfort's Nines, speaking to devil, they put out a Firefly game. Oh, my God, it's awesome. Really? I mean, it takes forever to play because there's just so much going on. You're just aiming to misbehave all around the verse, and you're just, you're putting a crew together, you're doing jobs. It's awesome.

It's really good. Actually, Fantasy Flight put out the outer rim, the Star Wars game, which is kind of like Firefly Light, because you're doing all the same stuff, but it's in a Star Wars universe. Sorry, you wound me up, Scott. No, no, no, this is good. I'm glad I'm glad I asked because it's always been a really fascinating change for me. Because really, it was like black and white, and it may have been Arkham Asylum that finally cut the garbage trend and became like the example of, oh, this is what these can be. Whereas like, you know, Spider-Man 2, great game, but in a sea of other attempts to make superhero games or Star Wars games, really kind of a rare moment. moment, like getting a good Star Wars game during that time was hit and miss. It's a little

like knowing which Warhammer 40K game is good on Steam these days. There's so many of them. You just, you don't know, and there's a bunch of garbage. You've got to sift through it and find the good stuff. But these days, it's like, it's not even like third-party shovelware companies anymore. It's only big companies get the deals for the IP stuff. So it's EA with Star Wars and it's, what was the other one I was thinking of? Oh, all the Marvel stuff is, is, you know, doled out a little bit. for example, I guess the latest one, the latest big one is Square Enix. They don't give it to small groups anymore. And not all these games are perfect, but they're not crap, right?

They're not just like, ooh, Iron Man's in it, and that's it. And then everything else plays terribly. And I don't know what changed except it feels like Arkham Asylum was that moment where they went, oh, we can go this far with IP games. And now the expectations are like, and I wondered if there was like a parallel in board games. And what's interesting on Tabletop now is, and it's become a little bit crazy in the last few years, is that, okay, so you can have the Marvel license for a card game, but you can't have it for a board game, and you can't have it for a dice game, but you can do, so that's why it's really weird, and they started delineated that, and I guess it's kind of the way that they can make more money, and then some companies will kind of partner with somebody else. So you see that with Mando and Restoration Games where they have the unmatched series, which is a great kind of one-on-one with different decks where they have like Robin Hood against Bruce Lee and stuff like that.

Well, they're putting out Marvel games this summer because Mando has all those licenses so they're able to partner with them legally and put out kind of unmatched to different Marvel sets. And those sets look absolutely amazing. But what's also weird is so you've got Marvel Legendary, which was throughout her deck, like I mentioned, but they don't have the rights to make it electronically. So this is why Marvel Legendary never came to the app. However, there is a legendary app that is the deck building game, but it's all kind of skinned a little bit different because they can't, I don't think they're allowed to put Marvel.

The Marvel stuff. Yeah. Which is a bummer. It's really funky. Yeah, it's like that's the, you know, that's the way I'd want to play it. It'd probably be my new addiction would be the Marvel Legendary iPad app. Well, it's the same problem. I mean, it would be awesome.

I mean, because that game is correct. Right, especially when you're, I mean, it's, it seems like nothing. Oh, so this one happens to be, instead of a swashbuckle or this one happens to be Iron Man. Yeah, but that makes, that's big. That's a big deal. Yeah. It is a big deal. It's unfortunate with the, the Square Enix game, Marvel, what's it called?

Avengers. Avengers, just the plan Avengers game. Yeah, that's all it's called. Yeah, there's no subtitle, right? I guess not. Nope. The problem of that game is that it's really disconcerting that they went for like movie-like graphical treatment, but you can't, they can't use the likenesses of those actors in the

game because Marvel's weird about, they're super picky about some of this stuff. I was reading an article today where, what's her name that plays Agatha Harkness in Wanda Vision? Catherine Khan. Oh, Catherine Hahn. Hawn. She said, somebody asked her in an interview, would you, would you like to see this character make more appearances in the MCU? And she said, oh, I 100% would, but Disney runs a really tight ship and you never know what's going to happen over there. Like I just get the feeling they're very careful and super controlling and execute wonderfully when they, you know, when they're hitting it right. But like it's what hurts Star Wars.

They tried, they had the same kind of carefulness, maybe too, maybe even more care, too much carefulness on the Star Wars stuff. And so that trilogy kind of just felt like it wasn't taking any chances. It wasn't trying anything new. It sort of petered out in the end. nobody cared. The most creative they got was like Rogue One, and that was like really hard to get done. Like, they had to fight to keep the script changes and like all that sort of stuff. So on the one hand, it's like we live in this great time where these IP owners are

definitely putting out quality stuff, but they're still like trying to make a diamond in your ass with some coal. Like, it's so hard to get the creative control out of it. And games I don't think are immune to that. You know, you still have to fight up against. Like, what was it, the Star Wars game for EA. One of the developer complaints was, They wanted to really go nuts with costumes and cosmetics because that's what sells in games like that in terms of money after the sale later down the road. And Disney slash Star Wars just wasn't having it.

They're like, no, Stormtroopers have to be this, this, this, this, and this. And we're not going to do anything but that. So if that scout trooper is going to be a purple, FU, like they just couldn't deal with it. And, yeah, that stuff's fascinating to me. Just because sometimes it works for them and being more controlling, preserves your IP and then sometimes it bites you in the ass and stifles your creativity and then nobody cares about your stuff anymore so you have to you have to balance that I guess but they didn't have any problem taking that Fortnite money today no they like that

fortnight money yeah no problem whatsoever yeah yeah I wonder I kind of wonder how that works like I would love an insider take on hey Fortnite has the Mandalorian in it this week and robocop next week and whatever right God of war the third week does that mean that, you know, Sony in the case of God of war, did they pay Epic to do this? Or did Epic pay them to do it? Because that, to me, that difference is interesting, depending on what the answer is.

You know what I mean? I bet you Epic went to Disney. They were like, we want to put lightsabers and Jedi in to Fortnite. They were like, we want to give you a million dollars. They were like, no, we are way, way, way protective of RIP. We want to give you $100 million. Okay, when do you want it to start? We're not quite as protective as we had previously let on.

Yeah. Well, anyway, that stuff's really interesting to me from like the bird's eye view. Back down to the table, though. That sounds like a fun experience. So everybody get that Marvel game and play it. Brian, are you, so you've got the whole game now from the Kickstarter. You're painting. I do. Everything in that, right there, that shot does include the main game or the play mat, which also arrived. Oh, did that ever come through? That play mat takes up like half a table.

It's fantastic. Did you ever, I never, oh, here, did you put in a different group? I put it in Discord, yeah. Oh, sorry, Chad. I didn't show anyone. Let me show them real fast. And what's amazing about that, Brian, is that's not even crisis protocol. That's a completely different game.

Right. Yes, exactly. Don't get me started on the minis I've picked up for Crisis Protocol that I've been painted yet. Oh, my gosh. At least I've got everything but Dr. Octopus painted from the original set of Marvel Crisis Protocol. You literally, those boxes now are the size of a, a person that would normally sit on that couch. That's how much stuff you got.

Well, not quite. I mean, it looks it's, it's, uh, it looks like it's bigger than it is, but that's like a half. That's a, uh, a lounge. Yeah, if there's a bigger Marvel nerd on this planet, I don't know who it is. It's Brian is who it is.

It's definitely me. Yeah, nobody comes, nobody comes close. And so, and I'm guessing that, uh, Marvel United that, uh, it plays well? I haven't played that one. It's, it's a blast. Yeah. And what's great is the, it's not just like insert your, whatever hero you want here, insert whatever villain you want there. All the villains play differently, at least out of the

core set. We haven't, you can even see the plastic still on most of these boxes. The core set, all the different villains and the different heroes play very differently. So it's not just a matter of all right, Captain America gets

extra armor compared to Black Widow who has extra agility. It's a whole different different style of play which is great you know Ultron leaves his little Ultron minions all over the board and you've got to take them out

Thanos has a there's a countdown you've got to get to with Thanos and it's really really cool I was wondering like Arcadia Quest or Starcadia Quest but I think they've kind of changed the gameplay up little because they have the same cheesy look as Arcadia Quest but I think it plays a little bit different than that one who knows yeah might

and I do know they've they're starting to talk this come on or seam on starting to talk about Marvel United X-Men so that's going to be coming out at some point here and it's just going to be more more shit for me big box because they have a ton they can draw from in that totally yeah yeah get a what do you call it a mortgage what's that called a second mortgage build them add onto the house make it your Marvel shit room what I really need to do is just figure out a way to clone myself to be able to sit there and paint like hey what you're working on now clone of Brian

Modoc awesome keep Peyton keep painting buddy that's your only job keep out and you know you know come on they're just waiting because there's so many of people like us at home they're just they're shaking waiting for the X-Men to come out so they can they can just click the back button

because they know it'll just print money Oh it totally will I mean they've already put a photo on their site of Magneto and it's like oh this looks so great. Yeah. Yeah, watch out for him.

He'll take your medal and move it around. That's what he does. He'll move your medal. All right. Well, this is great. Dan, always fun having you on, man.

I'm glad you got your second shot. I didn't know you and I were Twinsies on the dates. I'd forgotten about that somehow. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. Oh, happy birthday, too, by the way. It was his birthday. Oh, thank you very much, man.

Happy birthday. Yeah, I just... I hope you had a good birthday with Taylor. Yeah, I did. That's the problem is my daughter's birthday is that same day and it kind of takes over everything in my head as far as birthdays go and I miss everybody else's that day and you're not the other one there's like three other people who I just missed saying happy birthday too and I felt bad about it. Three other amazing people. Yeah amazing people and

Dan sends me a text that says hey happy birthday to your daughter that's awesome no hint about his reminder that it's his birthday and I'm just oh thanks man I'll pass it on and then two days later I'm like shit it's awesome yeah so anyway happy birthday I hope it was good and you know your Oh, it was great. My wife spoiled me. I got a nice new iPad that I'm just adding all sorts of things to and I'm afraid to touch it. You know, you get things like that. You don't want to touch them and break them. Yeah, you've got to be. They're pretty resilient, but I still have a first-gen, you know, the big, thick, fat one that still works and has fallen up 1,500 times. It never breaks. It's just a beast. I'll never get rid of that thing. I'll never use it yet. We can call ourselves that. Can't we? Because, you know, you said the big, thick, fat one. I can call myself first-gen, Dan. Yeah, your first-gen, Dan. That's why I'm a big, thick, fat guy. That's right. They haven't made 2.0, Brian, which is the clone, which is of their painting, much skinnier

because they figured out the physics. Oh, oh, nice. I didn't realize that was one of the added benefits of a clone in 2021. They'll be skinnier than you. Exactly, yes. All right, I need to get in on this tech. All right, excellent stuff. Dan, it's always great to talk to you, my best and our best, to your family and everybody,

and we will see you next time. All right, boys, have a good weekend. We'll see you later. I forgot to mention all your show stuff. I should do that. Show things. Beyond Hayes on shows. Hold on, Dan, you still here? Yep, I'm still here.

Tell everybody, sorry, I screwed up. We just recorded, the geek all stars. We just recorded a good show this week where we dove into Wanda Vision and the Snyder cut. So if you want to hear us argue about me being the only person in the world who actually likes all things, D.C. And a Snyder cut. We talk a little bit about Invincible as well, the Loki trailer, and, of course, Falcon and Winter Soldier, which I think is amazing. We talk about all those great

things. We kind of went away from board games for an episode, and we just decided to talk all the things geeks. So, yeah, yeah. Pick that out in a geek, all stuff. I could spend a day sitting with you talking about DC because I'm going to just say it now. I want to be controversial here. I enjoy their comics more, and I enjoy their animation more, way more than Marvels.

And even though Marvel's killing it on the MCU front and TV front, when it comes to comics, I'm a DC guy. So I'm with you, dude. That's my boy. all wrong with that. Don't tell Brian. Oh, please.

We balance each other out, right? Like, somebody's got to be the Marvel guy. Somebody's got to be the DC guy. That's right. Bring balance to the TMS. Yeah, but I like to love it all. You know, I just love it all. I just, I mean, I'm obviously a DC zombie.

You know, me, baby, baby, me. Hey, you know what you should do? You got to read the last God. It's so good. Have you read that series by chance? It's a DC, it's a black label thing. used to be Vertigo. And I just got through issue 9.

That's all that's on the app right now. I'm just waiting for the new ones. It's so good. It's so good. It's this original thing. It's not any heroes, capes, and cows, or anything. It's all like a, almost like a D&D story.

In fact, one of the issues, the entire issue, is a functional, what do you call it, D&D source book for that world. Oh, wow. So it's so D&D that they literally made it so you could go, like, have a scenario where all these creatures are like, you know, their DC is and what all their abilities are and everything.

It's very freaking cool. I love it. You would love it, dude. You really would like it. You got to... Oh, I'd have to check that out. Yeah. And, of course, like you said, you guys, I mean, you have to love Invincible. No, I love Invincible. It's so good. Yeah. So good. I only got

through the first episode. Just didn't have time, but I'm I'm already loving it. And I'd forgotten that Jay Jonah Jameson was the voice of the dad. What's his name? J.K. Simmons. I totally forgot that. Yep. So that was a nice surprise. All right. Hey, now for real, go have a nice day. All right. See you guys. I forgot to give him his plugs, man. What am I thinking? I blame it on the Pfizer. It's the Pfizer. What did it? All right. Well, that's going to be about the show. This is about it, everybody. It's an hour. That's what we do for PM.

Yeah, it's all we do. We give you an hour. In this case, everybody got the hour. It's not just patrons. although we'd love it if some of you non-patrons head on over there and signed up, patreon.com slash TMS. Not only do you get this extra episode a week, but during the week for Monday through Thursday, you get like almost 30 minutes of bonus content every day on the audio feed.

Add free, beautiful, wonderful content of us saying really stupid things. Brian dropped the biggest F-bomb the other day. I did. It was something, man. It did. You'll never hear me do that. the show but boy will i drop it in the pre-show yeah oh and some a bit bobby sent me this i don't know

if i'm supposed to play it but i'll play it that's pretty good yeah some antipy thing i really wish i you'd remember the context of that yeah you were into it and i was yeah it was yeah it was real good anyway so go check it out that's again patreon dot com slash tms for everything else we're at frogpans com slash tms and we'll be back with a filmtack this Sunday hopefully a TWBD tomorrow we'll see how I'm feeling I don't know I'm not I'm not I'm planning on it because we need to it's a finale and we really need to get through it so if I have to zombie through it I will but it's going to be weird so anyway enjoy us or enjoy enjoy us for that join us for that is what I'm trying to say and Brian now will play a song so that we can go Brian what do you got

I will. Yes, this one's going out to Leslie victory, and well, technically not Leslie, but her son, Logan. Hey, guys, it's that time of year again. That's right. The baby that Kim almost took home at BlizzCon 2013 is turning eight today, April 9th. That's a Friday this year, but I'm a proud patron, so feel free to play it on the day. If not, any day around the 9th, we'll do. Logan is obsessed with the narwhal song, a classic from 2003, 2006, somewhere around there.

Narwhal. Why don't I remember that? What is... Narwhals, Norwals, they are great. They have a horn on the center of their face or so like that. Really? Okay. Yeah. I don't know what that is. All right. Keep going. So I found a delightful piano cover of it that I think he'll enjoy. It's no longer Mommy's Worst song, as he likes to call it, because I really like this version, too. Happy 8th birthday, Logan, says Leslie Victorine. Well, happy birthday, Logan. And this is... I had to go back and look for... the original because this one didn't

remind me what the original sounded like. This is a piano cover. I don't know where that started. Sorry, keep going. Oh, that's right. It's a piano cover of the narwhal song or narwhals are awesome or whatever it's called by Kweeby, something like that. I can't remember. Anyway, here it is. It's the piano version of the narwhal song. Awesome. Happy

birthday, Logan. We'll see you guys Monday. Bye now. I'm not I'm going to be the I'm going to be the I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to

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