The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 027: America, The REACH Act & BBQ feat. Jameson Broggi

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Join the Slack and Use code OKAY: https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ks Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - AMERICA 13:24 - Having A Home Gym 16:36 - Jeff and Tres Join 18:44 - Ozempic Episode Recap 25:00 - Missing Training 26:12 - Bitcoin 31:30 - Jameson Broggi Joins 33:07 - Being A New Dad 36:24 - Jameson’s Career 37:51 - Craziest Cases 48:06 - Marines Failing Drug Tests 51:03 - The REACH Act 01:07:20 - July 4th 01:08:07 - NC vs SC Barbecue 01:11:10 - Jameson’s Lifting 01:14:58 - BW Tax 01:21:03 - Jameson Signs Off 01:27:52 - Joey Chestnut 01:31:42 - July 4th Plans 01:34:55 - Soccer 01:39:16 - Lift Hard Live Easy Classic 01:44:56 - AI Songs 01:47:55 - Tres Signs Off

All right, welcome back to episode 027 of the OK podcast powered by the Strength Co. I'm your host, Grant Brogy, and I'm in a studio here in the beautiful upstate of South Carolina with PJ where it's still light outside. Today's date is July the 2nd, 2024. And the Bitcoin price, the robots are doing it right, is $62,151. We'll talk about that in a second. July 2nd, the year of our Lord, 2024. And that's important

because we celebrated another birthday this week. By the time you hear this, you're probably on vacation. You might be in Hawaii. you might be in hawaii you might be in texas you might be in i don't know california somewhere where people go on the fourth of july year number 258 of independence i always remember 258 because the um america is one year younger than the united states marine corps so we started november 10th 1775 so 1776 we celebrated 258 oh last year younger so they got going before marines they got it going that's how we that's how we that's how we won and we won again two more times nice and it's uh we always say the year of our lord anna domini 2024 that's how you subtract 1776

and you get america's birthday and that means days since christ's death if you don't know the calendar is based off bc before christ in anna domini uh if you want to learn more about that head over to the search the scriptures.org my dad's website um yeah you might find some entertaining things there like why is the calendar the way it is what is happening in israel why is bitcoin spiking all the answers can be found in the end in the book anything you want i'm all america out today yeah i got i got america i got america okay so i don't want to call you up all right but i have to let's go no it's not actually called i'm just actually really curious yeah so you're wearing a nice hat yep round brim you already know you're gonna have to take it off

so you might as well go take it off because we have to check something okay america flag in the front says wrangler nothing's more like garth brooks wears wrangler when he does a concert sure right is that hat made in the usa oh i don't know if it is i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna bet you Wrangler. Nothing's more American. Like Garth Brooks wears Wrangler when he does a concert. Sure. Is that hat made in the USA? Ooh, I don't know if it is. I'm going to bet you. I bet it's not. I bet it's not.

But let's just check. Let's just check. Let's just check. Then we have a plug. Excuse the hat hair. Excuse the hat hair. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry about that. Oh, it looks good.

It's growing out. Here we go. Is it Bangladesh? No. You want to guess? China. Vietnam. Vietnam. Vietnam. Vietnam. Okay. is it bangladesh no you want to guess china vietnam vietnam vietnam okay so very classic for that to happen this is unplanned this podcast is powered by the strength co if you like made in usa hats that's what we do we sell everything on the stores made in the usa

except our bialetti brica pot which is made in Italy. And it's supposed to be. Because little Americans know about espresso. Right. Yeah. So, you know, you have a hat. I love that hat. I really do. I like really, like, I love the way it looks.

I love it has American flag. I love it says Wrangler. Like, you wear that. Any guy in picking South Carolina is like, hey, man, brother. Hey, man, brother. But that's what they don't know they don't know that i will say i would prefer a made in america hat i think i was at actually home depot

walking around home depot home depot and uh you know your brother knows something about that a little bit and i walked i was walking by i was going to the checkout and they had the clothing section up at the front there i love it carhartt homemade in china oh yeah i looked over i did a double take i saw this american flag hat just sitting there was the only one there and this one oh and i was like that's a sick hat yeah i want that hat that was my entire thought process then i bought it no it's good then i wore it you did the right thing like and i love it and no one would know but if you like real american made stuff i'm not just here to sell you cast iron. I'm telling you our hats,

our socks, our shorts, t-shirts made in USA. And you're going to pay a premium. You want our USA hat? That's $45. It says USA on the front. Like it should has piping that when you walk into the grocery store,

a guy goes sweet piping, bro. You're going to pay for it. But anyway, it's a big deal because it's hard for a business owner to make clothing in america it's actually way you know it's actually way harder i mean clothing is hard hats in particular really so you get a t-shirt you know not to give away company secrets but you go for a t-shirt blank like i'm wearing a 50 50 la apparel cottons from 99 south carolina so yeah

there you go yeah you're wearing the same shirt sewn in um los angeles you know that blank is 650 and you get the same blank made in bangladesh and it's a dollar 70 whoa huge difference wow but um but you go okay so there's a five dollar difference or whatever that is five dollars 29 cents or whatever i said and you're like well i can market it as made in america and i can sell a t-shirt for five dollars more maybe i lose a little margin on the pennies whatever but like i tell these people this shirt's made in america i can sell it you get a hat and i do this all the time for customers we make a lot of apparel for small businesses like hey i don't know anything about

apparel i need 20 hats for my coffee shop sure and so you know you quote it out and i always give them both options and it's like you go bangladesh v, patch, sewn on, everything done. I don't know, somewhere between $6 and $8 for the hat. Cost of the person buying it, then they're going to mark it up and sell it for whatever, $20, $25, $30, hopefully. You go the USA route, it's like $15. It's like 3X. With a shirt, I forgot exactly what numbers I gave. With a shirt, it's not quite 3X. It's like, it's like three X with a shirt. I forgot exactly what numbers I gave with the shirt. It's not quite three X is usually like two and a half,

but the hats like way more in the quantities go way up. So the shirt, you may be looking at two and a half, three X the price, but you can still order a dozen, a dozen, two dozen, but you have to buy 200 hats or something. 144 for USA made hat made hat uh like we have three vendors we use for usa hats and you gotta buy 144 so anyway not to bore you with the details if you haven't gotten butter hats go buy our hats and when i say ours i mean the strength co if you ever want an okay podcast hat to exist you gotta show us that you care about american-made products i'd buy a $50 hat off the strength car. Yeah. We've sold a lot of them. I think, well, actually I think the USA hat, which is called a pat 15, it's a six panel hat, white rope piping. All the cotton is from the USA

sewn in California, embroidered there, everything. I think we sell it for 45. Okay. Yeah. And shipping is, you know, $5, $10. So you're paying $50 for a hat. Yeah. But that's why we have such great reviews on the hats. I know. People are like, I love this hat.

The piping. Yeah, the piping goes hard. Anyway, a lot of America, a lot of biblical talk in the first, you know, five minutes of the OK Podcast. Well, it's July 4th episode. It's the July 4th episode. We're just here to celebrate 4th of July t-shirt banger.

I think there's like... Is this it? What's on the back of that one? Yeah, that's an old one. Yeah, that's an old one. I think that's 2022. Yeah. So 2024 is out now. By the time you hear this, they're gone because I think there's like maybe a dozen left in inventory.

We got like 40 people coming to the gym on July 4th in Costa Mesa, California, where the strength co started. So I'll bring those extra ones. They'll be gone. So you missed it. Um, the red,

right? Uh, this year is like actually like a slate, like a charcoal, I'd call it. Oh, okay. Um,

last year was red. Uh, got it. So I went got it with blue went red now we're slate um typical design statue of liberty holding up a barbell holding a plate says the year um big american flag in the sleeve this year i'm excited about it so i think yeah i don't know people people uh have different opinions on the whole if you want to fly an American flag out in front of your house, but I don't understand why there's a difference of opinion, personally. Oh, some people don't want to? Yeah.

Only because they want to fly a Stranko flag. They want to fly, the training continues. Yeah, training continues. Okay, podcast, just waving in the breeze. Just waving in the wind. What's more American than that? No, I know. I don't understand.

You know, we're not political, although we do make great Joe Biden memes, which we have to talk about. We have to. If there's one thing I hate about politics, I hate the fact that the flag on your shirt, your shirt, your hat, I hate that people see that and think like, ugh, this is some right-wing symbol.

Listen, brother, you can be left wing you still live in america yeah maybe if you had like a gadsden flag or whatever it's called you know maybe even that i mean even that is like the foundational principle of america 1776 like the whole point of the country but i'm just saying that we're all in america you can disagree but yeah if there's one thing we can agree on shouldn't it it be that? That's what I think. I'm sad that the flag's political. But speaking of politics, good old debate. It was riveting, dude.

Dude, if you ask me, Grant, how do you want to spend a weeknight in America? I say put two 80-year-olds on the stage. That's it. And let me watch them talk about their golf game. Yeah. Because that's what happened. Dude, he does not have a six handicap. No, no. There's zero. Yeah. I don's what happened. Dude. He does not have a six handicap. No, no. There's zero. Yeah. I don't know what was funnier. The fact that he said he had a six

golf handicap or if that was the only thing that got a rise out of Trump. Yeah. He was like, he said, that was the biggest life he's told on the stage tonight. Yeah. anyway that happened but uh big connor uh fountain valley california our meme maker you know he's on vacation this week in beautiful hawaii um and uh i just messaged him i know i don't know how to make a meme i just know that memes are relevant and they're timely and if you miss the boat you missed it you miss it and i'm like dude biden memes and he sent me the you know well one he what's the music to it you must have watched it yeah it has two million views now i don't know if you know that no yeah it's two million views now okay but it's like it's like like that's

terrible but it's like wonderland like almost sounds like ice like maybe it's a disney soundtrack okay i have to listen but like i heard it and i'm like oh this soundtrack i know and then you see a strength core co 45 yeah it's the same thing connor used for every meme it's like a shot he took in the gym says the strength on the wall and like there's a plate right yeah and so like you see that and that's recognizable and then you have biden looking around confused i'm like oh this can be a banger meme yeah and then he put some text up top and before i get into that i thought like the text doesn't matter right like the music's interesting biden's interesting so you can do good and i mean obviously the texts make the meme it says like trying to remember if you

did three or four sets no you need the text yeah and biden looks confused yeah yeah yeah so it did well out of the gate like you know above average yeah and then it just kept taking off yeah but what was interesting is that the comments were not like because sometimes we do a biden or a trump thing like i'll talk about the next day's one here in a second and then we we get comments like, why do you guys have to be political? I don't care. And I'm like, dude, I'm just trying to be funny. Yeah.

But usually you get those comments. Every comment was like, just do one more, bro. If you think it's three, it's actually two. That was more controversial. Oh, everyone. And everyone was so like, just do three more sets. And I'm like, I have coached people for a decade plus. When they say, is it three or four?

I always say three as a coach. Because my mentality is, well, if you don't know, you should do one more. Right. Every lifter's like, no, it was four. Actually, it might have been five. But the internet was like oh yeah you gotta do more so anyway i thought that was funny um more controversial than politics seriously even

more than that would be if you something about rpe yeah rpe so that was the next day trump yeah so we had him saying i don't know what he said and i don't think he knows what he said yeah blah blah and we said like r, stretch media, hypertrophy. And that did well, but not as good. But memes, they got to be timely. You got to hit it right on the way. But I think the Biden one, I think it was like everything. It was like people that follow us, they recognize Stranko background.

People that exist recognize that Joe Biden is lost. People that know that soundtrack, which I don't know what it is, put it in the show notes. I'm sure we'll put it out. Whatever that is, that gathered some type of attention. And then apparently there's way more lifters than I thought there were. Apparently there's two million of them.

Oh my God. Huge reaction. I'm in. Huge reaction. Anything else we need to cover before we get these guys on there? We've talked about nothing important. No, not much. I'm back on the lifting train. Oh yeah. You're back. Yeah. I'm back. Missed a week. I don't think I've missed a week in like an actual week in. So like you went seven days without lifting. Yeah. Was it seven? Was it eight? You're in good company here. No, no, no. I think it was eight. I think I was like one yeah one more day um yeah man it was

last week and i just i won't get into the details but just one of those weeks of work was crazy and then between you know i i started work before block haven opened couldn't stop until it closed sort of thing and then you're like well what am i gonna do here and then i had to travel and then it was a whole thing so So quick question. Cause we'll put, we might go down this rabbit hole with the guys. If you had had a home gym, do you think it would have made a difference? Yes.

Like I know you. No, it would have. You don't skip lifts. No, no, no. I was it literally a five minute drive and the constraints of let's be fair.

Block Haven open 6am to 9pm Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yeah. 9am to 6 a.m to 9 p.m monday wednesday friday yeah 9 a.m to 6 p.m tuesday thursday saturday yeah so was it the constraints of the day and the drive i suppose i could have gone like you know wednesday morning at 6 a.m sure i could have done that but then i'm not throwing shade i'm no no this is how i'm thinking about it there's like oh we're recording till late on tuesday hard to get up at five and go over there. My day is going to be kind of weird.

And then in the middle of the day in particular, it's like, well, things just keep happening where I have things that are due. I have to get this out right now. So I can't take. But you do have a very timely job. I have a timely job. So it's like I can't take hour and a a half two hours just out of the middle of the day a lot of times um and it's just impossible so normally i would today i was able to which is good the last week was just particularly how long did you go for today i think i programmed you for

two lifts yeah yeah i'm thinking that i left the house but by the time i left my apartment and walked into my apartment it's was probably two hours. Okay. That sounds like, and it's a six, seven minute drive. Yeah. Seven minute drive. Yeah. 10 minutes. Something like that.

Put your shoes on. So it's, you know, it's not, not terrible, but it's also not nothing like to take two hours if, if you're busy. It's huge. But this happened to me in Miami when I had my apartment gym, Epic gym, we'll go down in an infinite. Epic. And I would be working late doing something. And then I'd be like, we'll go down and epic, epic. Um, and I would be working late

doing something. And then I'd be like, dude, I still didn't live today. So at 9 30 PM, I just walk in my second bedroom, start ripping my lifts out. And I was down to do that. I tend to agree or, or sorry, this is important or even more crazy. Sometimes I'm like, well, I'm kind of squatting pretty heavy today. I'm going to rest six minutes between sex. I'll knock out a couple of things while I'm resting. Cause my desk was like right there. So it wasn't even a big interruption. And so you could sneak it in with the home gym a lot better. So you think if you had had a home gym over the last eight days, I think I would have, you wouldn't have like had great two hour workouts,

but you would not have gone eight days without touching a barbell correct yeah no I'm fully on board with the home gym it actually does help I'm a fan let's get these guys on here okay okay okay guidons okay podcast power by the strength co special welcome back to father trey gotlitch father john misty father john gotlitch john gotlitch that's what they call him. Welcome back. I forgot how to do this, man. Yeah, it's tough, man. It's like you go 25 weeks on end talking into a microphone. You miss one.

Like, imagine how Garth Brooks feels taking a summer off from touring. Yeah. Well, it doesn't count. He actually doesn't write his own music. He doesn't write his own songs. He's not even a real musician. He's fraud is that guy uh so episode 027 special guest tonight we'll introduce him here shortly so we got about i don't know maybe 10 12 minutes we're back the team is back we're a full-up fire team, which is good.

I guess I'm point. I shouldn't be point. I'm the leader. PJ's point. Gallich is the saw gunner. I assist him. You assist him. Leaders on me.

Leaders on me. Fire team. You're at rally point. system. Leaders on me. Leaders on me. Leaders on me. Leaders on me. Fire team. So you're at rally point. Much a weird marine talk there. Follow my tracers! But the fire team is back and trades get to have you back.

Glad to be back. Did y'all even talk last week or did y'all just sit in silence dude it was a yeah it was we were just commemorating your loss like crying you not being here do you think i died i didn't know i thought that's what we told pj yeah i thought it was 50 50 honestly he's out here he's dead yeah he's got to be yeah he's got to be so in terms of information delivered on the okay podcast which this podcast is powered by the strength co and by our good friends bw tax and uh the the whole heartedness of this podcast is to talk about lifting but talk about other

things music sports um dad life and trey's world you know all the things that go on and you know sometimes we're informational we've had uh crossfit gym owners we've had random people from new jersey that talk funny we've had people from long island that played college lacrosse at the university of navy we've had uh guatemalans you know we've had a wide uh just a guatemalan yeah but uh in any event we've had a wide stuff and everyone's been super entertaining it's been exactly what i've wanted like people that i want to talk to that you want to talk to that we want to collectively talk to last week we had Miss Midwestern Jake from State Farm and like that was the most informative like if you want to learn something and you may not want to learn about ozempic you may not want to learn oh I forget your brother the fake doctor Trey sorry yeah shout out Caleb but and who was

also a very dedicated listener a dedicated listener who's also a very informative doctor and he did a great job but i just meant maybe because i was excited to talk about ozambic like it was like information blast it was yeah it was like 30 minutes it was a college course on yeah college lecture would you agree jeff yeah i didn't know anything about ozambic and now a lot. And now I know a lot more. Yeah, now you know a lot more. To how the gut works, everything. Like with your brother, we were just like,

so do you have to go to college to be a doctor? Like with this guy, we were prepared. So Caleb kind of set the groundwork. I'm trying to like rebuild up Caleb here. I don't want him to unsubscribe. Oh, yeah, he donated. And in any event, we finish, we hang up, we talk smack like we do at the end of every episode. Jeff leaves. I looked at Jordy and I said, said that's gonna be a banger of a youtube video he's like dude the internet wants

to know about ozempic i'm like yeah right like i'm a starting strength coach we talk about strength like banger episode he's like dude i'm gonna i'm gonna bust this thumbnail like we got this we're like what should we call it ozempic the miracle drug what were some of the other items oh is it you know should i take ozempic uh ozempic this doctor's opinion will shock you yeah shocking facts about ozempic uh he's pros he's pros I gotta start listening to this podcast yeah I've only listened to one episode, the one I wasn't on. So that's how I got here. So it doesn't matter if he's pro.

We're here for the clicks. And this is not even talking about posting it on the OK Podcast. This is about taking like, hey, what would strength trainees want to figure out? So we get the thumbnail. We get the title. And I'm like, dude, post it friday and we're both like jordy's traveling i'm busy and i'm like dude it's gonna be a banger and so usually like within the first two hours one of us messaged the other we're like top three out of the last 10 like

hell yeah brother and i don't check it for a day and it's like 10 out of 10 and and pj's like oh but it's evergreen it's evergreen that's evergreen content it'll pick up what is it at now 694 views terrible like we don't have a thousand and 24 hours like it's like it's it's down there tank is that my fault the yes literally it's your fault thank you for connecting the dots yeah i will say the only thing i'm gonna just like i'm not gonna discount it yet because when you have a long video like that it's 30 minutes long it's a long video and it's and it's it's that informative and people really want to know that information if ozempic starts trending in the news again i'm just saying no don't count

it out because i've seen him come back with a vengeance i have too and you've been at the youtube thing a lot longer than I, I just think Trey, go back and listen to the episode. And in terms of like, we usually were like, yeah, Tennessee won the college world series. Who cares? Next topic. And this, we were like, all right, the people want to know. The people did not want to know. Well, let me tweet about it.

Okay. It's called a little retweet. It's called a post, Trey. Oh, my bad, dude. Dang, dude, you've just been tweeting. That's the problem. That's my problem. What do you want? Let me truth it.

Truth it up, dude. Listen, I'm just saying that as soon as Trump goes on on Zimpic and says it's the best thing ever, he has Trump Zimpic, it's going to take off. The video is going to take off. No, strength Zim pic. Which I said is just trend. That is just.

Trey, what do you know about a Zim pic? Anything? It's skinny, right? Isn't that the whole thing? Yep, that's it. Listen to the episode. Or just post that clip. Just post that clip. Yeah, it's a tapeworm. It's a bottle of tapeworms. It's a bottle Listen to the episode. Or just post that clip. Just post that clip. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a tapeworm. It's a bottle of tapeworms. It's a bottle of tapeworms. I mean, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but Jake, I mean, what I took from it, Jake was like, yeah, it's actually that amazing. Like, it works really well. Like, I don't know what to tell you. He's like, it's so good.

We can't just give it to people. We have to give them three other drugs that don't work. And then once we give that data to the medical companies we'll then yeah i loved like the dod like protocol that they have to go through 30 bmi yeah all right you got to go through six months of trying stuff and like it fails okay then we'll give you what you really want yeah if you guys want to um secret if you're trying to lose weight you don't want to go on drugs like cutting edge information eat less food no that's not as fun though yeah i know that sounds fake i'm sure that's the least american thing that's true over here wow i would sing the kind the theme song if I knew it, but I don't.

That's all I know. I thought it was O Canada, but all right. Anyway, we got 10 minutes before our special guest comes on. Let's see. Well, Trey's back on the podcast, so we got to ask him gotta ask him trey you back to training

next slide how many days has it been i did i don't know ballpark me within three a month when i get these twins april 25th 24th have you lifted one since then no okay all right still alive i saw kids are still alive that's right really right right now what it is is prs every day i have so my i have my garage gym right and then i have a bunch of boxes of crib boxes basically all baby stuff that i'm just procrastinating throwing away that's just sitting in front of all the stuff so memories yeah yeah that's essentially what it is also in case i gotta take something back i'm just like oh i got the box still yeah

that's in the box on you is totally well as long as the babies best as long as the babies are less than 500 pounds then whoa we got a cat here that's why she's always back there hey are we still doing uh is this still crypto oh dang yeah yeah price of bitcoin oh thank you trey uh block height is eight five zero four five eight shout out Zach Copley. Shout out. You missed it. He gave us a Bitcoin grenade last week when I let the guest in. When I let the guest in here shortly, I'll grab the grenade and then I'll explain it to you later.

Okay. But yeah. So Bitcoin is kind of like my cat. It's just growing. Every now and then it gets diarrhea and it shrinks a little bit and then it just grows again. And we're at 62, 62,

62. We're not worried. We're upset. Podcast inception was 41. So you can't really afford not to keep talking about Bitcoin. You can't afford not to. Yeah. That's one of these days, we'll all know

what Bitcoin is. When Trey retweets one episode, Bitcoin's going to the moon. So for you East Coast types where 70% of the country lives, it's currently for you non-military types 9.23pm.

Our guest is in the waiting room. We're going to let him in at 9.25pm. Jordy, there's a gun to your room. We're going to let him in at 9.25. So, Jordy, there's a gun to your head. You're going to lose all your Bitcoin in a boating accident. You have two minutes to explain to Trey what is Bitcoin. Okay, I'm going to do my best. Bitcoin is a decentralized currency. It exists in the world.

It's on the computer. Basically, it is a software program that someone created. That's a very simple answer to it. It's ones and zeros, right? What our, our money is kind of like ones and zeros right now, but what's the problem with those ones and zeros? One person, one centralized entity called the federal reserve of the United States controls and tracks and keeps track of and backs all of those ones and zeros. Some guy comes along, says, I don't like that. This 2008 thing happened. All the banks got bailed out. I don't like that they can do whatever they want with our money. They can print more. They can take it away from us, whatever they want. I don't feel like we have control over it.

If only there was a way, big short, if only there was a way to decentralize the control of that currency. Well, some very smart guy came along and said, here's what we're going to do. We're going to basically make a big ledger in the sky on all these different computers. We're going to run this software on computers around the entire world. And now we're going to keep track of, hey, I sent Trey 10 units of Bitcoin. He sent me five. And we're going to keep track of those transactions. But instead of one person controlling that, all those ledgers are on all those different machines at the same time. And all those machines are going, hey, did you see that he sent him 10 Bitcoin or one Bitcoin?

Oh, yeah, I saw that, too. Cool. That's approved. And they're all checking each other. So you can't really shut it down. No one really controls it. No one owns it. No one can mess with it because you have to mess with every computer in the whole world to do that. Okay, so quick caveat. So Bitcoin is notoriously used in sports betting, politicians purchasing hookers, like nefarious activities. Nefarious, right word? Right word, Jeff?

Yeah, good word, good word. Nefarious activities. That's a $10 word, man. Thank you. Nefarious activities, but you're saying everyone can see. What's a $10 word, man? Thank you. Nefarious activities, but you're saying everyone can see. It's very transparent, actually. So a lot of times, the FBI will say something like, we love when people's hands get on a keyboard, because once their hands are on a keyboard, now we can track you down. And so Bitcoin is actually

what you call pseudonymous, not anonymous, meaning I don't necessarily know that Trey sent that Bitcoin, but I know this account sent that Bitcoin and it's on Trey's computer. So we can know that. But the thing is, no one can stop you. No one can control whether you send that or receive that or not, which is why you see it being used sometimes in crimes. But that is just like cash. Cash is used in crime a lot for the same exact reason. Any new technology or something that's not traceable or easily controlled is used for crime at some degree, right? So basically, if you want to wire money after 3 p.m. Eastern, you use Bitcoin. You use Bitcoin. And now the only other kicker is that there's infinite dollars,

basically, that the Federal Reserve can create, which they are actively doing. Bitcoin said, we're going to make 21 million Bitcoin. We're capping it. There's no more. It's kind of like a gold standard, but just a digital version of that. So it's never going to make more. It's never going to make less.

It's just, this is what it is. So if you like those ideas, if you like knowing controlling your money, you should check out Bitcoin. You completely get it now right yeah yeah uh started by a japanese dude right maybe no one knows the name is japanese the name is satoshi is his pseudonym and satoshi came along invented bitcoin put it into the world, and then he's just gone. Vanished.

He might be dead, actually. So we appreciate the nine people that listened to the first 30 minutes. The one person that's left, which is my mom. I know you didn't understand that, but mom, don't worry. I got a ledger full of Bitcoin for you. Hey, let me look. Real simple phrase. You can call it digital gold. That's

a decent way to think about it. I might just buy just real gold. Up for the podcast. My goodness. I feel underprepared. It's like a LinkedIn profile. It's a job interview. What's up, Jamison? Hey, good afternoon. How are you doing? We're doing good. Welcome to episode 027. 027, baby. Of the OK Podcast. I didn't know you were a Longhorns fan. I don't know what's going on above you there.

I don't know what that is above you. We actually saw Varsity's horns off. Yeah, there you go. Big Aggie here. I got to fix something on the screen real quick. You guys welcome jameson what's up jameson what's up man jameson welcome to the podcast where are you tuning in from i'm right here in moorhead city north carolina wonderful by the coast oh i love it i love it long time listener first time caller huh oh yeah oh yeah so we always like to start the show by putting the

the guests on the spot and it's not really on the spot but we just want to know and there's none offense taken by the four of us we all have busy lives you got three marines here and a producer but have you ever listened to an episode of the okay podcast i have listened to a segment okay good okay not bad it's all we need that's all we need to rock and roll i like his mic i love it yeah you're looking good is that a lapel mike jameson oh yeah so yeah i mean it's great because i'm in my backyard right now which because if you got a sleeping baby you know i can't be in a 750 square foot home i can't be talking it's out in the field great over here you can see my wonderful backyard hey look at this showing us up over here looking good uh let's let's touch on that a little bit we got a new dad

in uh trey so trey wave so james knows who's who in the zoo that's trey jeff up top with the massonomics right now so I'm assuming I see a guy sitting next to you. He's not waving. Oh, that's all about me. Can you see me now? That did you right there? Yeah, yeah. That's right.

Yeah. So, yeah, I got the hat. Yeah. OK. All right. Three people wearing hats. So anyway, Trey's a new dad. He recently had twins in April. You're a new dad you had your daughter in uh january right jameson talking to me yeah yeah january so just under six months here super exciting so give us like the i don't know like i'll be a new dad in october give me like the

six month like this is what i did wrong this is what I did wrong. This is what I did right. This is what I had no idea about. Well, what I had no idea about, I didn't know just how much fun it was going to be. I mean, it's obviously a lot of work, but it's just way more fun than you could even begin to imagine. So that's pretty incredible. This point is, I think it's more fun even so because, you know, when the baby's first born, she's not even smiling. And then when you first start getting the first smiles and now you just get laughs every day, that just makes it even more enjoyable, man.

That's good. That's deep. Good baby salesman. See, my girls just started smiling. So that's pretty, I can relate to that. I would be curious what's this sleep are they sleeping through like when do they start sleeping through then through the night i know it's probably different for everybody but yeah i know you know i people were sometimes telling me oh it won't be long he's gonna be sleeping 12 hours she's done that like one time um the last month or so. Making me feel good. Single tear.

When she did that for the first time the other day, I had maybe like about a month. She's been going on these five or six hour runs, which are totally great. Okay. Yeah. Cause at first it was like, you know, I mean, two hours was good, you know, it's just every couple of hours, but so yeah, it's, yeah it's it's it's really you kind of started getting in a groove it's been great so do you like between you and your wife marilyn do you guys like i mean i know a lot of it's like very mom centric are you like hey if she wakes up between 2 and 4 a.m i'll get up or is it just like is it just chaos no marilyn does that marilyn

does that okay no what i'll do that i'm joking you know we're getting we're getting ready for bed in the morning yeah i can change it and do all that stuff um but like it's like in the middle of the night and marilyn's gonna feed her she's just gonna change her then i'm not gonna get up change her and then hey you feed her now now we're just being inefficient with our time yeah amen brother really gonna fix it with my time right um right yeah picking up what you're putting down middle of the night i mean that that that's always maryland because that's usually usually with with food but uh other than that yeah just you know whatever maryland needs

you know early even before work you know take care of a diaper that kind of thing so yeah yeah nice all right well i sent these guys your uh bio told them a little bit about you they know you're marine captain and i could just like grill my brother to death but i feel like this is like a trey and jeff show you know based off what i sent what do you guys want to ask jameson well it's if i guess go into a little, uh, feel mind for the listeners, kind of like what your job is in the Marine Corps. I do. We haven't talked about that,

right? No, we haven't talked about that. No. First time. So I'm a judge advocate. Um, my current bill at assignment is I'm a defense council.

The first half of my tour, I was a deputy staff judge advocate, which is just in the civilian world that's like the equivalent of a general counsel role uh so that was that was pretty fun and then a little over a year i've been a defense counsel and that's been a lot more fun than i even anticipated that's been great so i defend marines court marshals and administrative separations um and so that that job is created by the Marine Corps is basically is the institution's own check, right? The whole point of the military justice process is a check on our Marines, right?

To make sure we're keeping the system running the way it's supposed to be run. And then the defense counsel role is that is a position that Marine Corps created within that is to make sure that the Marine Corps is doing that whole process the way it's supposed to be doing. It's a lot of fun. It's very challenging. It's never, ever boring. That's what we want to hear about. I mean, that's what I want to hear about. And I don't want to put you out of line, right?

So Jeff and I, both Marine Corps majors, you can call us sir from here on out. Yeah, go ahead. But when you leave for 20 days, you feel a little Liberty to like talk about things. And so I don't want to put you in a funny spot, but like, I don't know, like what's the craziest case.

Cause like we, as platoon commanders, you know, as, as battery XOs, as company commanders, battery commanders, you see stuff and you thought, man,

I thought we were just all signing up to serve our country. Like why did this gunnery sergeant do this? Or why did the staff sergeant do this? Or how did no one know that this PFC was ripping donuts in Delmar Park in the middle of the night while he was drunk with like six of his Lance corpels in the back? Like, do you have any, obviously no names, but any like stories where you've defended or prosecuted where you're like, wow, I never thought I would see such a thing.

Yeah. It's first off, there's different kinds of cases you get in there. And like I said, it's, everything is super interesting. Nothing's boring, which is good. Cause I mean, you want to be super engaged. You're going to give the Marine the best service possible that way. I'll say that there's different types of cases you get. There's some cases where I've had some cases where, you know, the situation didn't look good. And it's like, I'm absolutely believe like, hey, this didn't happen the way it's either at all or not in the way it's the Marines being accused at all. So there's like some of those cases, some cases or it's like there's many more things that like the Marine has is more of a fault being more falling squarely into what the Marines accused.

used up and there your job is to make sure that every bit of the process is going the way it should be because the marine's still entitled to certain things that's going to be a better outcome for the marine making sure that the government is doing its job the whole way through there and then you get everything in between um in the process there interesting things without getting any names just so you know it's entertaining that i i again i can't get the specifics of cases but like it was pretty fun one time in the courtroom i'm in the room and i'm literally yelling as loud as i ever yelled in my life you know loud as you're yelling at ocs in the courtroom you're like why would you do that well that was part of the job because part of the situation of the case is this dude was screaming as loud as he possibly could. That's what happened in the factual scenario.

And how do you convey, you know, I can go into advocate and say, Hey, this guy was yelling as loud as he was good. I can say that. But what's the best way to communicate that to the fact finder, the person who's listening to that and making a judgment call without any warning? And you're telling this is just exactly what happened with the story without any warning. You just break into it and just scream as loud as you can in the courtroom and everything's bouncing off the wall. And then it makes me realize like, oh, wow, this was like something that really happened. so i was like oh wow this was like something that really happened like this is and just totally set the tone for the case and that uh that that scene we did very well in that case and so that was

when the prosecution or the defense in that part that was defense in that role i was i would have rejected objected for sure because like i feel like if your last name is brogy you a latterly average bear. Sorry, Jameson. I was going to say, hey, objective, what role are you in? I'm a pro defense, Your Honor. Sustained. That's what he's saying. So I guess one thing I'm curious about before we ask you about other things about your life, Jameson. So Trey, jeff and i all artillery guys so we you know we finish training and then we go and we basically have a platoon of

men to lead and then it you know builds from there and you know i was fortunate enough to come up didn't promote you to captain uh has it been a year now yeah that's yeah about it yeah a year ago yeah what would you promote a year yeah yeah salty salty yeah salt dog over here but so i promoted you and what was interesting to me was that your shop was very small and not bad it's like this is why i always tell marines you got to do two tours because one tour will never tell you what the marine corps is like and two tour won't but two tours won't but it'll tell you a little bit more. Um, it's like when I went to see your shop, you know, you got a master Sergeant, uh, you know, you got a couple maybe corporals and Sergeants up front. Uh, you got a major over you, but it's like six, eight Marines. And so it's just interesting. Cause like for us,

the whole pipeline is like, you're going to have 35 guys and then you're probably going to be an XO under commander of 100 guys, you know, and then one day you have a battalion of 500 guys. And so you're always thinking of like, how do I lead this group? Right. Like, how do I, you know, make a culture, you know, make us technically and tactically proficient? How do I prepare us for war? and tactfully proficient? How do I prepare us for war? And I think on the JAG side, the role is just important, but it's completely different. And so I'm just curious of like, you know, at TBS, every Marine's a rifleman, right? So you're learning fire team skills, squad skills, platoon level skills, and then you become a JAG. And it's like you show up to an office and you have six Marines and you have like real work that needs to be done. It's not like, hey, we're going to go play in the woods and shoot artillery. You have, you know, I'm just curious, like, what was your transition? Like, you know, from leaving this, every Marines are riflemen concept to like what

you do day to day now. And do you like it more or like, what are your thoughts on that? Uh, first off, yeah, I love it because it keeps things interesting. I'm taking, I'm in the blended EWS program, Exponential Warfare School at Lejeune. Hey, it keeps things interesting, right? Because I'm doing my job and then, you know, you take a break from it and you go do that for a few weeks. So that part, yes, that's enjoyable.

Yes, when you're going like shoot pistols or whatever, that makes it enjoyable. I mean, of course it makes it challenging too, because the work we have, like, yeah, the Marine Corps says, oh, these other things are important, but at the end of the day, it still cares about whatever your job is, which I'm sure that's like that. And your other MOSs too, like you still have your assignments, like, yeah, you got to do this other Marine Corps stuff, but like you still have your assignments. So I'm sure that's, you know, very similar. I don't know if it's more so or less so for us, it seems like way more so where it's like, no, these things need to be done. So it's definitely challenging, like trying to finish

it all, uh, doing both, getting your case. Cause the cases don't change. You have a caseload, you have court dates, none of that changes. And so when you're taking on other things like other PME or whatever, which I'm doing, yeah, it makes it hard to fill it in. But you know, it's interesting, you came to us, you just saw a part of it because you saw- For sure. Oh yeah, what I mean is like, you saw the shop,

you said, oh yeah, you know, 15 Murray, whatever. It's even smaller than that because that was, well, you saw there, those were people from, who came from the trial shop, that's the prosecution shop. There there those were people from who came from the trial shop that's the prosecution shop there were a couple people from the SGA there might have been someone in the SJ for the station there's also the SJ for the for the second Mall which is at Cherry Point there's also a couple of legal assistant Marines and then the defense offices so like and the group I'm working at, like very specifically with, I work with everyone in the building.

Sure. Like individually, like as my team, that's even smaller because I'm in the defense office. Do you guys like have formations? Like does everyone like come to work at like, I'm not, I'm not saying Trey's laughing. I'm not saying that to be funny, but I'm just, I'm just so like institutionalized of, you know,

we'll call it company-level sized events. But when you go to work, like Friday, when you get off, do all the Marines come to one spot and someone is like, hey, be safe this weekend? Yeah, there'll be a brief. Yeah, there'll be a brief at the end of the week. Not within, so our law section is it within hhs that's the headquarters and headquarters water that's you know the administrative marines for the entire

station with them no all the different sections are very dispersed because i mean when you're working for a station you know you got like fuels right you got the law section you got people or facilities i mean there's it's very different with them no within our building yes uh the bulk few marines that's that's all i was thinking about that's all i was thinking about do you have to sit you have to sit duty uh when i was an sja yes okay how much did you hate at one to ten Saturday. Cause then, uh, you go home on Friday, you wake up Saturday, then Sunday, like I want to go to bed. Um, so no Saturday. Yeah. When I, when I was, uh, when I was SJ, yes. Defense cherry point defense. We don't, cause there's only, there was only three defense attorneys. And if you have to respond to something, then all of a sudden the Marine Corps was like, Hey, we, Cherry Point defense, we don't, because there was only three defense attorneys, and if you

have to respond to something, then all of a sudden the Marine Corps was like, hey, we need your services. It's like, hey, I was also the responding person there, and you've just taken me out. Yeah. I can't find the service to the station anymore. Yeah. That was one benefit.

Yeah, duty was terrible. It's the worst. Yeah, it events can be kind of isolated sometimes, because One benefit, yeah, duty was terrible. It's the worst. Yeah, it's the worst. Yeah, it's meant to be kind of isolated sometimes because most of my clients are from the second mall, the air wing there. So, you know, you have HHS air wing

and then there's a couple other units. So most of my clients aren't from the unit that I'm in just because it's so much smaller than that's good but it can be kind of isolating too because depending on the case and depending on what's going on with the government side i think you have a very different viewpoint and uh so sometimes like hey all one team one fight right it's like hey well in this case with this unit i'm not one team one fight i'm over here i got a different interest so that can be kept before home before jeff pops went off i would real quick what percentage of the cases are marines popping on drug tests um it's a lot

well it's interesting are we talking about court-martial or administrative separation? I say that because depending on what the drug is, if it's something that's considered lesser, you're not going to waste the government resources to take it to a court-martial. A lot of times they just send the Marine to administrative separation. And depending what the Marine's rank is, the Marine's ready to board for two reasons. Either number one, the command's trying to give them an OTH or number two, the Marine has more than six years of service. So depending on what the conduct is, maybe a case I never even see because the government's view is,

hey, he's got less than six years of service. I'll give him not an outcome that's not as bad and we'll also save our time and we'll just process him out, process them out with a general. So those cases have the numbers for those. But I'll tell you just in terms of the grand scheme of things, you know, I mean, it's probably higher than, you know, I don't know if it's, it's not a majority. I don't know if it's, I don't know.

I don't know. 49%. Yeah. We'll see. Interesting. Plurality is what I would say. Fair enough. Spoken like a true plurality um and like drug use i'm curious now right i just took command of a unit a bunch of new jersey hooligans um is or is it still like so when i was a second lieutenant first tenant like weed was big

every now and then you'd see cocaine every now and then you'd see like a steroid ring or something harder. Like, is there, is it pills? Is it prescription stuff? Is it, is it weed? Like, what is the, I don't know, I guess what you would say, like, think about it in terms of, Hey, you're, you have an 18 year old Marine he checks in your splatoon commander and you're like, Hey, what do you stay away from? Or these are the things that get Marines in trouble. Is it weird offset things? Or is it guys that are like, yep, went home and smoked pot?

What kind of offenses are you seeing? I'm one defense counselor at one installation in one sub-region. But my anecdotal, what I've've seen the most common thing i've seen is this thing called delta 8 which is like a variant of like t like synthetic that's the most common thing i've seen have you heard of that pj i lived in miami so i heard about it is it amphetamine or no it's a synthetic it's a synthetic weed it's basically synthetic weed thc which is gets you high it's a synthetic thc okay got. I'd never heard of it, but now I've heard of it. It's like at every single station you turn around, like, okay. All right. Anyway, that was, well, thanks for your Marine Corps expertise. I'm sure that

guys want to talk about other things. I was just, I was just curious on, you know, as Marines, what the differences are, but Jeff, what do you got for him uh i'm gonna backtrack a few years here um question i want to talk to you about the or ask the reach act like the process that like what is it and then what was the process like for getting that push through like i've done some work at like the utah state house uh and just seeing like the bureaucratic nightmare like that is. So just want to hear what your experience was like getting that through the South Carolina State House. So there's two different REACH Acts. There's the one that's passed in South Carolina

and there's a pending one in North Carolina. The South Carolina REACH Act in very abbreviated terms is a law that's now a law in South Carolina that says to graduate from a public college in South Carolina, every student, regardless of major, has to take a three-credit hour course in American government that requires the students to read for themselves the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, at least five of the Federalist Papers, and the Emancipation Proclamation. The why behind it is, hey, we live in a great country. We're grateful to be Americans. We have certain rights as Americans. But we see today that so many Americans know so little about our country. There was an interesting survey from the American Council of Trustees and Alumni that showed that 10 percent of college graduates thought Judge Judy was on the Supreme Court. And so this is what we see from college graduates. In South Carolina, not a single public college, with very limited exceptions, required a class in American government to graduate. So we see this problem. I see that the public colleges don't require a college class in American government. So the REACH Act was a bill that says, hey, to graduate, you got to take a class in American government and that's law now in South Carolina.

Can you talk more about the process and kind of the journey from day one to getting it actually passed in South Carolina? So the legislation took eight years to pass. Sounds about right. So back to the process, though, to add on to Jeff's question. When did you hear about this? And when did you start trying to push it? And then the stuff you did.

But eight years ago, you're not a Marine. Eight years ago, you were a senior in high school? It was like two, 11 years ago now. But I'm saying the process. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So take us from like wherever you were the moment you were like kids in South Carolina to study American government. Like take us through that. I just wanted the synopsis.

Because people are like, what the heck is that? So hopefully it's concise and understandable. But I would have never, ever tried to get a piece of legislation passed because I didn't know how to do that. I didn't know what the process, like all the actual nitty gritty details would be. And, you know, I wasn't connected politically. Like I wasn't like personal friends with my state representative, my state senator. So the reason I even started working on it is because it was already the law. So the way it started is I'm a college student in South Carolina.

Go Gamecocks. Well, at the time, there were the awful Gamecocks who hated our country, but we won and they lost. So a friend of Gamecock says, hey, look, I found this state law. And you're like, and you may ask, well, how did that happen? He was a guy who was just literally reading through all the code of laws. And read a section of the code of laws and came across a section that from the 1920s, it said, hey. To graduate from a public college you got to study the america's founding documents that was the law and he looked at that we looked at that and we're

like they're not doing that that ain't happening so again i would never try to pass a bill i'd but i thought when i read that i was like i was like university they must just not know about it we'll just let them know we'll get this screened out. They'll say, oh, it's the law. Because I'm the most normal person who loves this country know, hey, rule of law. The law says something's got to be done. That's the way it is.

So we did the right way. We approached the university leadership. I picked up the phone and no connections. Hey, I'd like to meet with the president. Of course they were like, no way. So, okay, well, who can I meet with? You can meet with the vice provost. Provost's office is the one who organizes an undergraduate curriculum. Now with the vice provost, she's like, oh, that's an old law. I don't really care. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry. I said, hey, I'd like to

work. And they're like, oh, you can't meet with the president. You can meet with the provost. And again, I did this all the time initially because i thought well that's the moral thing to do right maybe they don't know and i want to inform them first because maybe they're innocent of this i realized they knew what the law was and they didn't care they said we don't care we're not going to follow that so then after you went through the initial chain of command i was like they're not following the law who do i go to so i just randomly picked up the phone started calling state legislators again didn't know any of them i would just someone would go down their offices cold calls just walk in their office and that's very difficult as you know i mean i have networks right i don't need i just walk in introduce myself say who i was

and so a lot of people just get turned away because they don't know who you are right and that's okay they don't know who Jameson is but just kept doing it and took you know a few years and I had initially a few few legislators were like that's terrible I can't believe they're not doing so they contacted the president hey by the way there's this law make sure you follow it they sent a letter off to the president of the university in South Carolina I was all right hey a senator said it. That's it. It's the law, so he doesn't have to pass a bill. President's hearing from the senator, so we're good to go. The president, in writing, said the same thing to our state level members.

He just said, I don't care. I'm not going to follow it. And listed all these different problems in the law that said, oh, I don't like all these things that are in it um so i can't comply with that it was incredible right like how like how can they do this so our strategy was okay because the president wouldn't come out and say well i just don't think the constitution's important of course you can't say that because that's like you know that'll make them look bad so he goes all these like fake reasons of why i can't comply with him so i was like all right well let's just write a little piece of legislation

answers all their little problems and we did and there was about 10 different things they said like oh well the law said the class had to be a year-long class or like we don't know what that means it's like so you're telling telling me people before didn't know how our college worked you probably know how better work than you do. So we changed the language. We said, okay, so now it won't be a year. It'll be a three credit hour class because that's the language you use. So we'll call it a three credit hour class.

We did things like that. Well, now it's way more detailed. And now they're putting a position when the bill's moving through the legislature and committees, they're like, oh, please don't pass this bill. This is a terrible. Wait a minute you

essentially wrote this these are the things you asked for and it took a lot of bagging forward it was very difficult because um you know some of the legislators are like if clemson opposes it or usc opposed it they're like i'm a tiger tigers are against it it's like no no those tigers working for the colleges they're not the same tigers you like out on the field. They're very different. Amen. We don't like any tigers, Jameson. Especially the ones who are working there. They were awful, awful people.

The good news is it took a long time. We exposed what they were up to. I filed for several different public records requests under the State Freedom of Information Act. I asked for the emails of the lobbyists working for the universities and then published their emails where they would just say, hey, we think this thing should be killed. And when legislators were really seeing like, this is what they actually think about us. This is what they think about this. They really gave us a lot of momentum. And in the end, the South Carolina pass the state senate 45 to 0 and the house

91 to 12 and at the last minute literally the president university of south carolina the president of clemson university endorsed it because they had to at that moment and we won and they lost and now to graduate from a public college in South Carolina, you have to study about America, whether you like it or not. And hopefully- Amen. Well, I want your follow-up, but real quick, I'm going to hand over the phone.

So you got Citadel, you got Coastal Carolina, you got University of South Carolina, you got the Clemson Tigers. What other state schools? You got College of Charleston. Francis Marion University. Francis Marion. Who was first and who was last?

There was one college that was already complying on their own. That they had been doing for years. And that was Carolina University. Baptist. Good old Baptist boys. No, it's not a Baptist school. The Chanticleers.

The Chanticleers. USC Conway. baptist boys no it's not a baptist school oh um the sean declares usc conway and they had been doing it since they became their own institution in the 1970s and that was important for us because usc and clemson would literally make up stuff and act like oh this just can't be done it's just it's non-feasible and we're like i'd be like don't tell me it can't be done i'm out looking at a college right now that's doing it. So I know it can be done because I'm looking at it. But there were people who were originally fine. One of the first college to comply with the law who wasn't previously,

but when this kind of became an issue again, was the Citadel. Ah, amen brother. Came in, President Glenn Walters uh became president of the citadel an alumnus of the citadel yeah went to the president and said hey there's this existing law will you comply with it he wrote back to the alumnus and said absolutely we're going to require all cadets to take this class and that was important because we were able to juxtapose that against Clemson and USC are saying, this can't be done.

Or Clemson and USC, like Clemson, USC would literally say, we pass out the Constitution and Constitution Day. That's an equivalent. The President of the University of South Dakota put in a letter, in a letter, hey, don't, we're not requiring a class, but at the veterans halftime salute at the football game on veterans weekend you know the jets fly overhead it's like i'm sure you know when the jets fly around every game cock from leipzig's look it up going that makes me think of the federalist papers you know i mean what a joke when the citadel led that made usc and

clemson look even worse and it made everyone everyone realize, of course, this can be done. What are we doing here? And that's how we passed the Senate unanimously. PJ. Okay, so after hearing that, this is great. So I must be naive because when I hear that story, when you say, oh, we should have a law that requires them to take, you know, learn about the founding documents of America, I'm thinking, well,

of course, who would disagree with that? And then to hear that you got so much pushback, I'm curious, what were the arguments that you heard from their side saying, no, we will not comply with this? Because I can't imagine what you would say to that. So they'd say a lot of different things. Number one, they would say, well, even if this is a good idea, which they didn't think was a good idea, this is inappropriate for the state legislature to tell us what to do. Like, this is the role of the faculty. We're the experts. We come up with what's required. First part of that should be, well, you're not doing it now. But number two, again, this was not a state law that applied to the private colleges. This applied to the public colleges. And that's important

because the University of South Carolina, for example, was created by state law. So you're telling me that the legislature can't have input on a public entity that the public created in the first place? That's how arrogant the faculty was when they were saying that. It's also arrogant that they were saying that because, you know, a bachelor's degree is 120 credit hours. We're talking about a three credit hour class. So we're talking about two and a half percent of control by the public. So we're still going to tell the faculty, you can have 97 and a half percent control. Like, no, that's too much. The second thing they might say is they might say, well, this would threaten our accreditation with the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. Accreditation bodies are supposed to be outside entities that tell, they're basically like a stamp for the public to look at colleges and say, oh, that's a legitimate

college because it's accredited. Well, you see that some of these accrediting bodies across the country have really become political. And if they see something a college is doing that they don't like, instead of saying, oh, we just don't like that, they say, oh, it might affect accreditation. So they would say, oh, this is going to affect our accreditation. But that just wasn't true because this proposal was not unique. There were a total of eight states in the country that have similar laws. And there were other states that had this law, other colleges that followed that law that were accredited by the same accrediting body that accredited USC and Clemson, they hadn't lost their accreditation. And even if it had, which it didn't, but even if it had, state law by the people always trumps some

private entity of some group of people who says, this is what we think colleges should be. A third thing they might say was, well, this is done in high school, so it shouldn't be done again in college. And our response to that is, yes, it is done in high school. And you know what? This is important. It should be done again. You may take certain subjects in college that are very unfamiliar to you, and then you take some colleges, subjects that are familiar to you, but now you're going to study them at a deeper level. And this is one of those such things because this is the survival of our country. And we put special exemptions in the legislation where if you were in high school, but you took an AP American government class or a dual

enrollment class, we said, hey, we'll exempt high school students who have demonstrated college level proficiency in high school. So they're good. You said, what were their objections? Those were the objections they would say. Now, the real reason is I got the real reasons when I met with them. It's an old law. We don't care. We want to do our own agenda. But the things that they would say publicly, those three things were some of the things that they would say, this is our real reason for objecting, even if it wasn't. All those sound like cop-outs for, hey, I just don't want people to learn about America. You said it on me.

All right, I'll say it. That's fine. A lawyer on the hooks. I feel like that's a real feather in the cap for your presidential campaign. Is that coming up soon? How old are you? 30.

Five more years. Five more years. Five more years. 2032, huh? Yeah, well, when we get you on the election cycle, let's go. We'll have time to get you prepped for that. I think what they mean, James, is do you have any political aspirations in the future? Right now, no. I'm so disgusted with what's going on in North Carolina.

Like I'm trying to push the North Carolina recheck, right? By the way, this is something that's like totally unaffiliated with my day job, right? Like I've literally taken vacation days, leave days to work on the North Carolina recheck. And sometimes it's so disappointing to see the pushback that happens. And it's like, I have no interest in joining that club. Sometimes it's like, I'd rather just be a citizen when I want to, at the time I want to, rather than see things stall.

So, I mean, no. Yeah, no, I hear you. I feel the same way about politics. Like,

like when I, when you look at it, it just, it's such a racket. It's like, and you need good people, like obviously need good people. And there, maybe there's good people out there.

I don't know who they are. But it's just like, it's almost disappointing. But anyway, I think we've not exhausted. We could probably talk your political career and your political stuff all night. But we probably need to move on to some other stuff. Cool. Well, you cut out for a second. Say again. I'd say, hey, remember, our Constitution isn't political. It stuff. Cool. Well, you cut out for a second. Say again.

I'd say, hey, remember, our Constitution isn't political. It's not political. No, you're right. No, you're exactly right. The only thing political about this conversation was Trey and Jeff asking if you were running for office. Everything else was just a celebration of the Fourth of July. Hey. That's right.

So what's happening in Moorhead City for the Fourth of July? Moorhead City is a really, really cool place. It's kind of like the upstate of South Carolina at the beach. I mean, just really great people. But you're five. It's somewhat similar to Bubert, South Carolina. But you're five minutes from the beach. And that's really cool.

The town every year always brings a band, has a band right there on the waterfront. Free band, people from the town come out. We've done that the last couple of years and they blow off the fireworks on the island and the intercoastal waterways. That's always a good time. You're right by Beaufort, North Carolina,

not Beaufort, South Carolina. You know about that? Don't get those mixed up. Yeah, yeah. So James, so you grew up coastal South Carolina. You're a low country boy, salt life. You've now lived in coastal North Carolina for two plus years. You're raising your family there.

No offense taken. I happen to love Western North Carolina. As I've gotten into fly fishing, I'm like, you know what? I always crapped on North Carolina. There I've gotten into fly fishing, I'm like, you know what? I always crapped on North Carolina. There's a lot of good country up there. I don't necessarily like their politics, not them political. But Western North Carolina, beautiful country. But you've lived in coastal South Carolina and coastal North Carolina.

Same type of stuff. I know you grew up in the South, meaning South Carolina. Well, like, what do you like better? Like, do you or like, what are you like? Hey, this is better here. This is better there. You can take this into barbecue. You can take this into politics.

You can take this into the kind of trucks people drive. Like, what do you see the differences on the coastal Carolinas? First off, Northolina has better barbecue what was the barbecue man south carolina we loved canes and florence and that barbecue in florence that's really not south carolina barbecues south carolina what's famous for mustard canes barbecue is really northern i was it was always my favorite. Then when I got here, every barbecue is similar to that. So no question. So you like, so you like chopped more than pulled vinegar.

Yeah. And I said, that's a barbecue at all. Honestly, I'm open-minded and open mouth, but yeah, my favorite. Amen, brother. I'm right there with you. No, no. I just think it's interesting because if you like really dig into this, there's actually in PJ and and i've talked about this there's like a line in south

carolina like above uh hemingway where it changes to vinegar so it actually still changes to vinegar in south carolina but the pd predominant here yeah yeah the pd is muster i actually like a blend i like a vinegar based mustard whoa but i like but I like chopped way more than you know that's canes with the with the cane sauce which is really if you look at the ingredients on the Coleman sauce it's it's vinegar and mustard and I've never actually seen another sauce like that that has vinegar and mustard maybe I'm sure but I've never seen it else besides Coleman so maybe that's where it's the location is. It's, Hey, they're getting a blend of North Carolina and South.

And what state did you have that barbecue sauce in? South Carolina. Okay. When we say Canes, are we talking about like the, are we talking about like Canes the restaurant? In Florence called Canes. Oh,

okay. Sauce in Florence called Coleman's. Yeah. Canes serves Coleman's sauce Cane's serves Coman's sauce, and I love the Coman's sauce on Cane's' barbecue. I thought y'all were just confusing what barbecue was. We were just talking about Cane's chicken.

Yeah. Like when Californians say a barbecue and they're talking about their grill. Oh, we're going to barbecue. And you go over there. You're making hot dogs. What is this? Yeah, barbecue. Yeah, barbecue.

All right, Jameson. Before I hand it over to Trey, because he's got an important thing that actually impacts you in ways you don't even know, which I'll explain to you afterwards. But before we get there, we do like to talk about lifting. This podcast is powered by The Strength Co. That's why we're here. That's why this will be broadcasted. And we'll send it. And we'll make clips of you talking about the recheck which is important but we got to know what you're lifting like these days you're a new dad you're a busy attorney you got this like stuff going on the side with the north carolina recheck that you're frustrated

with you got a fine vinegar barbecue sauce when you can you're a marine officer when you get in the gym what do you do and like how's that going uh so i do variations of bench deadlifts leg press um some overhead press running and then sometimes i'll have days where it's like you know i'm going to hit something specific whether it's back or arms or whatever. So I'm usually in the gym three to five times a week, just depending on what the schedule is. And then just I have a cycle that I just rotate through and just move on to the next one, depending on what the day is. Did the baby change your consistency at all? Or was it like, hey, I still have to eat.

I still have to lift. change your consistency at all? Or was it like, Hey, I still have to eat. I still have to lift. Um, somewhat. Um, but I had, I took some days off. So I mean, I was here the whole day. And so instead of me being gone at work for, you know, 10 or 12 hours, I'd be here, but okay, I'm going to go to the gym for, you know, an hour and a half or whatever it was. So I don't mean as a knock, I mean, as a compliment because we see a lot with people that lift, they have a child and then like all of a sudden the child's five and they're like, Oh, I used to work out all the time. I had a baby. I don't work out anymore.

Cause then the second baby followed and a third baby followed. So I'm just saying, it's like three or four weeks till you said, but like overall, like I've changed nothing nothing which has been great like i'm grateful to be able to the best part about the marine corps is like even if they are long on any particular day it's sometimes it's sometimes it can be the unit's fault they're not given marines who don't have their own authority to go out and do things not giving them the opportunity but generally even if it's a long day it's kind of your own fault even it's a 12-hour day that you didn't go work out again every day is different

if it's a day where i'm in trial all day that's you know it's going to be done the end of the day but yeah so that's been great because yeah my job even it's a long day i've got in at the end if it's a full day at work when i get home i don't work out because i've already done it yeah yeah that's right that's always been real quick one quick thing then we'll turn it over tray you said leg press so you're not squatting right now uh sometimes but right now like i my like the last three weeks of my rotation has been deadlifts and after the deadlifts using a leg press okay got it and you what kind of what kind of weight you move in these days in the deadlift um i last three weeks i've been using a hex bar okay and been like two four like three sets of five like 240 okay okay that's good which just feels very different than the other bar uh yeah

it's a it's a different movement but yeah yeah it's very different it's like very intense in the quads because i just just the way the whole movement is and you have to think very mentally to yourself of like simulating of i'm gonna put my shins down there if i was gonna do a bar and really have to think about sitting down into it um because you have to force yourself to do that. Yeah. Nice. All right, Trey, you know what to do now. Is it my turn? Okay. All right. Ask him something,

but you know what you have to get into. No, I say, let's go ahead and do this. I'm kind of excited to hear it. Yeah. Okay. Smooth talk over here.

I'm ready to hear this. Yeah. Me too. All right, Jameson. So we're sponsored. We have a sponsor. Surprise.

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Just kind of off the cuff, give a little ad read. So let's go around the circle here. BW Tax, Greenville, South Carolina, but they can do your taxes even if you're not in South Carolina. Jeff, what do you got about BW? It's a small team and they are dedicated to taking care of their customers. You call, they're dedicated to taking care of their customers. You call, they're going to answer. They're going to get you the help you need when you need it. BW Tax is run by a Citadel alumni. He's a big Boston fan.

And whether you're working small business stuff or you're a Marine judge advocate and you're moving from North Carolina to Hawaii, he can help you find out the tax breaks that are there and cut through the red tape i think you guys covered it i did i said the only thing yeah jeff kind of touched on it but small company but it has that feel it's not you're not going to get put on hold and talk to a robot you can you talk to an actual human being there so kind of with this random information, none of us like taxes, right? No one likes taxes. It's our duty as Americans to pay them, right?

So we gotta. So kind of with that information, what would you say? As low as possible. Yeah, as low as possible. Yeah. So generally, James, and people start with something like what I love about BW tax, and they take the facts that have just been fire hosed out and make an ad read.

Like I said, bars low. Yeah, yeah. There's no expectations. I'll say two things. Number one, no one's paying me to say anything. I received one paycheck only, and it's from the United States government. I'm not saying anything at all, because I have no actual different interests

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I had this tax question. BW Tax will be there to answer your questions. If you're somebody who went through medical school and you may have a lot of debt because you didn't join the military and sell your soul and you've got all that debt and you're like, ah, how could I get some tax relief who might i go to who might have the the answers with my numbers go to bw tax if you join the military and you get a lot of perks or you've got to deal with a lot of extra paperwork outside of all the other paperwork you deal with with your daily daily job and you've got a wife and a kid,

and you've got to figure out what's the best way to get a return on my investment and get some tax return so I can go buy some American-made iron plates, you go to BW Tax. You just call them any time, day or night, they'll be there. And the best part is they're Boston Celtics fans through and through. So no matter who you are, they'll take good care of you. So I actually like yours better because you like did the down and dirty. You call, you get a real person. And that is, I could play you eight at, no, six.

So we've had about 10 people. You're the 10th person to read the ad. We have six on the board. And every single person has said you call you get a person and rather than fill it with political fluff you just said what i heard was you call and you get a real person so we end the disclaimer you know i like the disclaimer as far as i was like man true lawyer all right so i'm gonna ask you one question james then i'm gonna turn it over jeff do you know the name of this podcast?

OK Podcast. OK. It's all you, Jeff. We live and drive. All right. So the last requirement we ask of our guests is that we get a good OK from them. So good. Give them a little context.

You take a couple takes. Think about OCS. Yeah. If you ever remember maybe coming into the squad bay and you decided, oh, I got to get some of my footlocker real quick, and you're the only one that's fiddling with the lock on your footlocker

and then out of the hatch pops the platoon sergeant and the gunny, and he pops out and he's like, okay, friggin' candidate brogy, okay, what are you doing? So that's what we're looking for. Like conjure up those memories, pull them from the depths, and give us your best okay.

Right. This sounds like the best okay podcast. Hey. Yes. That's pretty good. I've heard worse. So, James, thanks for coming on. Love you, my little brother.

Appreciate you supporting us. I know it's late. I know you have a wife and a kid. I don't know that you care, but you might. Is there anything like you would want people, you know, we get about 700 downloads a week of people listening to this episode. If they want to know something about you, where would you direct them? What would you want them to look into?

Maybe you just want them to go look up the Federalist Papers and read them. Like where, if you got listeners that have no idea who you are from all over the country, maybe there's a REACH Act in every state, where would you want them to go? I don't have a website.

I'm just a guy, right? I'm just a citizen. I'm a company and I'll have a business. I'm just a citizen. I do have a Twitter i'm a company and i'll have a business i'm just a citizen i do have a twitter i don't tweet that often you'll see i mean i don't even have it when you do it's good yeah i mean it's usually something interesting to happen important i think people should pay attention to the nc recheck which is stalled so i think that's pretty important that info will be on my twitter which is just at my name at james and brogie but again i'm not on twitter that much i don't even have that either i don't. That info will be on my Twitter, which is just at my name, at Jameson Brogy. But again, I'm not on Twitter that much. I don't even have that either.

I don't have any social media apps on my phone at all. That's how little I'm on them. But I do have a Twitter. So if people want to look up stuff, they can go there. All right. Next time I want a young Grant story. I mean, you can hit it now as a closing thing. I'm sure he's got a good one.

Yeah. Do you have any young? Was Grant a good older brother to you got any young was grant a good older brother i always got good life advice from grant and i remember one of you know i bought my first car when i was 15 but the reason i had the money to do that is because grant was five years older than me when he was 15 i was 10 and he would always tell me hey when you're old enough to drive you're gonna want something to actually be able to drive. He's like,

stop saving now. And I, and that was when I was 10, I was like, ah, that's probably a pretty good point. And so I just never spent any of my money, saved it.

And I was able to get the grant. And so. Sage advice. Okay. That's great. But do you still have that truck? We love. I still have that truck.

We love some good car talk on here. So what, what is that truck that you still have that truck? I still have that truck. We love some good car talk on here. So what is that truck that you still have? It's a 2003 Chevy Silverado I bought in 2008 for $4,900. I still own it. Would you call that a square body, Jameson? Square body? What do you mean? So you know like 80s and 90s,

like the hood. Yeah. 2002 kind of had a little bit of a curved front. And then 2003 was the first style change again. And it's, the front is very square. Sometimes people call it like the cat eyes. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Actually, it looks brand new right now because on eBay, I got a whole new set of headlights for $60. So instead of trying to like, hey, I'm going to clean up all this oxidation, I just pop the hood. Buy the new headlights. $60.

I got brand new headlights. The car looks brand new. It's genetic. How great is it when your truck doesn't crank and you pop the hood and you're like, well, there's the motor. There's the alternator, there's the battery. And if I turn my head, the transmission's down there,

it's one of those four things versus you pop like some new car. And you're like, uh, all I see is plastic, right? It's nice. My, the guy who has a Tesla,

I'm just, yeah, you pop the hood on the Tesla. That's all I have. Balance. Open space. No, so I actually, people often tell me I have a Tesla, and I say, no, I have a 97 Chevy, I have a 96 Chevy,

and I have a phone that you can ride in. Do you like your phone? Oh, you like your phone? Come get in my phone that can take you to the next town over. Now, let me ask you again. You do own a Tesla, correct? I cannot. What was the lawyer terms you used? I can't confirm

or sponsor anything, but yeah. My wife's car, as I like to say. Actually, my favorite car right now is our minivan. That's better than my truck right now. What is it?

The 2009 Chrysler Town and Country minivan that's better than my truck right now that 2009 Chrysler town and country minivan miles and you just hit a button the door opens you set the baby carriage right in the car seat you don't have to stand up in it that's just driving around the parking lot 70,000 yeah well it was uh we got we got it from maryland's grandparents it was in tampa florida it was their last vehicle they had okay they were tired yeah we just went around town right how many miles per gallon does that thing get 20. so that's pretty good yeah did you ever put did you ever like update i know you're fuel injected do you ever update like the air filter system or the fuel injection system yeah oh no i mean just

changing the air filter but i've never messed with it it's all it's all standard inside like yeah i can always get like a mess spark plugs for it but no no no adjustments to it are you like a bosch guy like do you like the bosch spark yeah i think yeah i think the last ones i bought were like bosch like iridium or something yeah those are the best ones i was like i'm gonna take the time to do this more than the you know extra few bucks for a plug so did you change your spark plugs yourself yeah every single time i've done like four times did you change your spark plugs yourself? Yeah, every single time. I've done like four times. Do you change your own oil? Outstanding. Well, it depends. If I'm rotating

my tires, yes, because that's cheaper because I use the base lift for $8 an hour and I can get two things that I want. So if I'm just doing the oil, then it's about, it's a few dollars more than I'm changing the oil myself. And I'm like, all right, some guy will do it for me. I'll go to the quick one. If I'm rotating, it's every other. Jameson, we just had a new segment of the podcast. You're the first ever. It's called Are You a Brogy? It's a series of eight questions about your car

to find out if you're trying to save money. You passed. You were eight for eight. We appreciate that. You're the first brogy to be on the podcast. I've asked other siblings. What's that? Well, yeah, I'm on it.

But I'm actually Grant Brogy. This is my stage name. But thanks for coming on. We really enjoyed having you. Thanks for your work in the Marine Corps. Thanks for what you've done with the REACH Act in South Carolina and North Carolina. We're excited to see where you go next. know your summer mover next year um like hope you know hope our past cross jeff's on the west coast as a battery commander so you never know you may see him over there um but uh thank you for your time. And God bless America.

Happy 4th, man. Happy 4th. Thanks, sir. Okay. Okay. Good dude. Good dude. Brogy2044.

Yeah, for real. I can tell he's related to you. I vote for him I saw that car talk I was like dude is Grant talking I was like no one's gonna believe me that this is my brother

until we finally touch cars at the end and they're like oh now they know now they know there's no way no way that's since 15 years old yeah good story Now they know. There's no way. No way. Peasant's 15 years old. Yeah.

Good story. All right, Jeff. Next slide. Well, since there was a lot of good America talk during that guest segment, why don't we talk about any great plans for 4th of July? Any traditions people have? I want to touch on favorite 4th of July food. traditions people have? I touched on favorite 4th of July food. For me, it's hot dogs.

Joey Chestnut? Joey Chestnut. I'm taking a trip. Go ahead. I touched on food. Would you consider Joey Chestnut America's number one athlete? He's up there. Would you put him over Michael Jordan? Would you put him over Michael Jordan?

Would you put him over Kobe Bryant? How many times has Joey Chestnut won the world championship? But it's like a parody. It's a scam. Excuse me? It's a parody? Excuse me? Competitive eating?

Oh my goodness. He trains all year he does is he going again this year yeah and there's something weird though that like pj's in a hole right now he's about to come back like sponsorship thing where he's like not actually like him and there's something weird i saw some headline a few weeks ago where he's like not actually doing it but like him and kobayashi you're gonna have like a one-on-one or something like that i could be all wrong but he's 40 years old first of all oh okay wait he weighs 230 oh he's a full-grown man 230 yeah i'm like one out of the four people on this podcast. Unnamed. And I think he's got 15 titles

under his belt. America's number one athlete. I'm going to stand behind that. I just heard he has three less than the Celtics. Cat. Oh, cat. That's what happens on this podcast. Cat.

Oh, cat. Conversation got awkward. Here's the cat. He says he holds 55 world records across 55 disciplines all right we'll go back to fourth july talk i'm just saying america's good for that that was good so have you ever watched it like live i'd hate sports center have you have you watched it live i've watched it a lot a couple times and like rooted for him i was just like blown away by like rooted for him i was just like blown away by no no i'm not eating the hot dog yeah i'm actually digging down your is it a like is he a champion whenever i watch it i do root for yeah he's a

winner you just want to keep watching the win yeah okay it's like you watching steve spurrier i get it i love steve spurrier can we get steve spurrier in the hot dog eating contest that would be entertaining i thought you were saying the okay podcast but yeah let's get both well we got steven garcia and eat hot dogs we got steven garcia coming in august oh so he's got i bet he's got he has a plus tell me he has a plus one that's only like what do you call it one degree of separation yeah like just like in the lord of the rings they toss the ring in you're like i'm one degree of separation from hell that's yeah yeah that's what they say that's what they say uh fourth of july so you're you told them about your trip no i i'm gonna take a

trip uh visit a longtime friend up in indiana we usually do fourth of july activity so i'm gonna take a quick trip up there for the weekend and uh i mean the summit uh no close though um down the street it's essentially just go hang out on his property, shoot a bunch of guns. And then one of his redneck buddies says that for the food that we're going to eat, he told us that, oh yeah, I'm bringing a leg. And I don't know what that is, but he's bringing a leg and we're going to cook it.

So I'll let you guys. I was going to say human as well. With this guy, there's no rednecks in the eggs. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. It could be anything. I'll update you guys next week on what the leg was. Jeff, what are you doing?

Are you going out with like elder so-and-so from the local Mormon chapter? Yeah. Mormons love America. It's nice as people. They do. They definitely do. No, I don't know.

We're probably not really doing anything. Just hanging out. Probably fireworks. Okay. We're very American. Trey? We're in San Diego for a family reunion. Oh, I'll be close by.

Should we link up? Do you want to drive to me? I'll be in Orange County. Go ahead. If you want to come down, I'll be close by. Should we link up? Do you want to drive to me? I'll be in Orange County. If you want to come down, I'll buy you dinner. How long are you there? I'll leave Sunday. Sunday morning. You're in Texas now. In Texas now. Leave

Minyana. Okay, I leave Minyana as well. Then I'm there through Sunday morning. Okay. All right. I'll shoot you a text. as well and then i'm there yeah through sunday morning okay all right well jimmy yeah we'll plan i'll shoot you a text we'll talk offline as yeah we'll talk about yeah we'll talk offline yeah travel with the twins so it should be uh shout out chorus light and mass dynamics um i go to california tomorrow as well in the evening

got a big meet up at the gym fourth of july morning i think we got like 40 lifters coming in um nothing like special just like hey the gym's been open for eight years now so i just sent a blast out and was like hey if you've ever come to this gym you want to come lift on the fourth come on so you have people coming on so we'll like do a little event there and then uh orange county fourth of july i would say underrated i would say southerners would like think mean things about it but i would say like one of the more patriotic fourth of julys i've ever spent um what my southerners would say in defense is that, well, that's because in the South, it's 4th of July every day.

And they may be right, but I'm excited to be there for the 4th. Yeah, they go hard. Yeah, they really do. They really do. It's like American flags everywhere. Being at the beach is cool. So we'll be up there. Be there for the weekend weekend during a starting shrink camp

on saturday um but yeah that's that's the fourth uh sports are slow we only have baseball right now and soccer and and food well sort of not the usa anymore yeah. We're supposed to talk about Euro 16 or round of 16. Yeah, that one. USA played pretty terrible yesterday against Uruguay. Well, they also had a ref who was 12 years old. The ref was horrendous. Like one of the fouls. First game.

So like typically if like another player's going for a ball and like they step on your ankle usually the person that gets there that steps on the other player like you get the yellow card well in this game the opposite happened the guy that got like taken out and fouled like he he got the yellow card so it's just like what is like usa elections are you saying it's rigged yeah not a question not going to put words in your mouth after talking to a lawyer tonight but uh but no it was unfair okay now if you say also played terrible so fifa's not that corrupt though like they're pretty straightforward yeah yeah yeah yeah no there definitely haven't been any issues yeah rated by the fbi one time right you remember that that's right

what else we got on the slide deck well it's not on the slide deck but right before coming on the podcast independence day was on tv so i was watching that and i was wondering i was like oh has grant seen this movie because it's like technically could fall into like sci-fi realm because there's aliens okay quick raise your hand if you've seen independence day okay you got to see it it's great marine will smith's a marine he's a marine pilot a marine pilot married to a stripper so it's actually actually accurate yeah spot on as americans but he also refers to himself as soldier a few times which i was like yeah he's

well he is a pilot so that's that's real still accurate yeah so interesting and independence day's defense and jeff i'm glad you assumed i hadn't seen it because i haven't i know about it but not much i couldn't tell you one line from it but i've definitely like turned on a tv and been like oh i know this is independence day and then turned it off seeing the movie and i don't know the i don't even know the premise aliens Aliens take over the White House? Nailed it. Okay. That was amazing.

Isn't it called iRobot? Yes. That's a sequel. Also called iRobot. Okay, because I've seen iRobot. Oh. Yeah. Isn't that also Will Smith with robots?

That is Will Smith with robots. All Will Smith movies are just like sequels. It's like the next in line. They all follow each other. And then I Am Legend. After he is I Robot, he's like, oh wait, no. I Am Legend. And then Stitch.

Pitch. Close. Sorry. I didn't Lilo and Stitch. After the Zombie Apocalypse movie, close sorry I heard the zombie apocalypse movie he goes and starts a dating service yeah with Kevin James that's a good movie Jeff hates that movie I had a roommate in college

my first roommate at Auburn or Emerson? At Auburn. And this was like when Netflix was through the mail still, and he would like Netflix movies, and he would watch them for an extended period of time, over and over. But Hitch was one he like, he probably,

it seemed like he had it for two months. And every time I would come back to the room, it was on and he was watching Hitch. so i've seen that movie probably about 400 times and so every i know jeff hates that movie so much every time it's on tv i'll text him i'll text him hey jeff by the way hitch is on tv don't watch this he watched it so much and varsity blues don't hate that movie quite as much but he also watched rc blues many times yeah i mean that checks out auburn right that's right yeah well i think at this point trey you bring us in for a landing you trying to wrap this up i mean unless jeff's got a saved round or an alibi any saved rounds what's what's going on i'm not gonna be able to make it what's going on uh when in

northeast south dakota coming up oh western northeast south dakota that's it we got a billboard up the stranko billboard is up in south dakota um it's up if you want to talk about bad placement you're gonna have to be standing on a 12 foot step ladder in order to take a good photo with that thing. But it is up. We got our first billboard and it's up in Aberdeen, South Dakota. So we head out there on the 18th,

visit the black Hills, meet up with Connor, see Mount Rushmore, and then drive over to Aberdeen. Meet is on Saturdayurday the 20th are you competing i'm competing bench only yeah bench only give a number in mind yeah or you don't want to let the cat out of the bag and let your competitors know yeah yeah i'm a bench close to your chest yeah literally i'm a bench specialist uh so my bench pr is 380 touch and go

okay i don't even know what my comp bench is yeah it's more than 350 it's less than 370 it's kilos like what is a kilo it's fourth of july week um oh no So I will probably do like 335 for an opener, whatever that is in kilos, and then like 355 for a second. And I feel like those I can very confidently pause and press. And if I'm real honest, Gino is calling the event. Ooh. And the strength plates are being used in the warm-up room. So what I will probably do is make a scene.

Of course. If the Mastodon guys don't have a problem, because I don't want to ruin their meat. But I want, like, in my mind, Gino says something like, this is the owner of the strength go. He's from Alabama. I know I'm not from Alabama, but Grant from Alabama. And he doesn't want to lift these Chinese plates. He's calling for three, 82 and a half of American iron.

He knows he'll be disqualifiedqualified he's doing it for his country give it up for grand i love it that's a good captain jack gino right there man yeah that was good then if i fail it but uh i feel like maybe my last attempt, I asked for American iron. Uh, no, but I think, I mean, so forget the theatrics aside. Uh, if I could hit equivalent in pounds of three, seven year above with a pause,

I'd be super happy. That's it. Yeah. But I might actually ask for like three 82 and a half and just touch and go it and it not count, but it'd be strinco iron. Yeah, that could be cool too. But it does count. I mean, it counts to me.

That's actually all that matters. Yeah, but it does count. But I have been lifting my shoulder, so I've been benching heavy, and my left shoulder's been hurting not bad. But like, yeah, I went to the low bar the other day i was like if i need a big bench i definitely can't low bar like back to the mars bar uh so but yeah i mean if i do 350 plus like i'm super happy if i do 370 plus amazing um but yeah i did bench only i didn't know they offered that because i thought

well i have a booth and i have shirts and i have hats to sell and so i don't want to and you know collars and like whatever like and i want to talk to people like i don't want to like like squatting and deadlifting is so much stress like the amount of like if you do all three it's all day yeah and like don't get me wrong my shoulder like my hips don't hurt right now my back they don't lie either knock on the wood all in my shoulders but like the bench press it's like very hey go warm up the bench like you know and it's like yeah maybe an hour i dedicate to lifting versus nine hours. Bench only. We'll be there for three, four days. Should be fun.

Connor, Ron, Diana, myself. If you're listening and you're coming to the event, we'll offer free shipping on stuff if you buy there. That's a good deal. Lift on Livizi Classic. Trucker hats. hats are those gonna be there those new

ones that's like yeah the new trucker hats are there uh the embroidered ones are there um we sold out the lift hard live easy classic hats i think we had 50 at the arnold and we sold out when i say it sold out we mean the 30 front of the table sold out and we didn't realize we had a box of 20 so there's like 20 of those left so basically a collector's item we have 50 pairs of collars that say lift hard and live easy the uh the lever clamp design they're red and uh engraved in uh and then we'll you know we'll have probably 100 shirts or something so um love it yeah should be fun that's been saved rounds brought to you by massonomics massonomics have you guys listened to the song oh wait the massonomics song or the the straight so there's two so those are the lists you've been sending in that look like it's gonna be a virus sure that i don't want to look at. Yeah.

There's this thing. Do you know about this? No. S-U-N-O-S. It's going to put you out of a job. To include your musician front. Let's go. You load it with words and tell it a style and it makes a song.

We're watching, and we'll close this and then travel takes for landing but we're watching youtube the other day and we're watching the massonomics video with build fast formula like there's like a liftoff in their gym and diana's gonna kill me for this but i'm gonna say anyway so it's playing and they're like all lifting and all of a sudden there's like this background music but it's not background it now becomes foreground music because it's like b-roll it's like massonomics lift the weights and diana goes this song is so can i say gay yeah yeah g-a-y and song. It's July now, you can say it. But she doesn't realize they're saying Masonomics.

And I was like, wait, they're saying Masonomics. And I'm like, wait, what? And so I start texting Tanner about it. And he writes me back like, check this out. And they have this song that it's like, I can't sing it. I'm going to butcher it. But I'll just give the chorus. The part that I like, like,

it's like, what would Huck Finn? And I asked myself, what would Huck Finn do again? My strength coat plates are made in the USA. And then it keeps going. And it sounds like the most generic country song that you'd hear in like any country bar. That's not a country bar.

That's not a real country song, but then you listen to it in every sentence is like niche. i grab it and i post in our slack and barclay west shout out raleigh north carolina citadel alumni writes official song of uh summer 2024 yeah i just like it i don't think anything of it and then i start sending it to people and then massonomic starts posting like official song of summer official song of summer, official song of summer. And so then they posted something yesterday that said official song of summer. So I go back, I was like, someone said this before they said it. I went back in Slack and I zoomed back. It was right as Tanner had sent me this song before they had marketed it anywhere. And I screenshotted

the date, which was June 17th. And i circled official song of summer 2024 and i sent it to him and i said did you say this before that date and he just writes back dude that guy gets it i said so you didn't right he goes no we said it all over this week's podcast that literally released 16 minutes ago uh like that guy gets it but yeah uh i don't even know how to tell you to well i'll give you the song and you can put the chorus on the outtake, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, go check that out.

But if they don't want to check out song, Trey, where should they check us out? Well, first of all, what episode is this? 027. 027. This is 027 episode 027 of the OK Podcast. We'd like to thank our This is 027, episode 027 of the... Okay. Podcast.

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