The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - Ep. 113: Creatine, Texas Tech & Ghost Tours

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

Episode 113 is live! With Jeff still out in the field, Grant and Tres take over the controls for a classic freewheeling episode packed with staff brief shenanigans, college football talk, Bitcoin updates, Texas Tech headlines, lifting questions, creatine myths, training mistakes, upcoming Strength Co. projects, Wisconsin adventures, and plenty of the organized chaos that makes The Okay Podcast what it is. If you've ever wondered whether supplements matter, what gym mistakes are actually holding people back, this episode is for you.Podcast Hosts:Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach.Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and LifterTres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and LifterJoin the Slack and Use code OKAY:⁠https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ks⁠Check out BW Tax: ⁠https://www.bwtaxllc.com⁠BUY A FOOTBALL HELMET:⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.thestrength.co/mrhelmet/?utm_source=The+Okay+Podcast&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_campaign=Okay_Pod⁠Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro08:52 - Staff Brief18:19 - Outlying Stations24:18 - Most Overrated Lift31:19 - Creatine41:08 - Dad Splits44:12 - Wisconsin49:20 - PCS01:00:47 - College World Series01:08:15 - Texas Tech Debate01:16:38 - Sick Kids & Being A Dad01:23:34 - New Trees01:33:13 - Chili Cook Off Recap01:39:04 - Ghost Tours

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Close than I thought. It makes me nervous. Slip knot. You got farther. Oh, I got one more guess. That was a 45, baby. This is one of those songs I would sing all the words to And all the words would be wrong

It's not sublime So it's not from California I don't think they are What's the name of the song? They are from California They are from Long Beach, aren't they? Not Long Beach. They're from Anaheim

No, I think it's further North. I've never heard of this city. The song is called Brain Stu. Oh, brain stew. It's, oh, oh, it was. Nirvana. Oh, close. It's Green Day.

Oh, man. I felt pretty confident about it. Yeah, I was sweating it when he said Sublime. Wait for him up on September ends. Where's East Bay? I assume that's east of the Bay. East of the San Francisco Bay. Yeah, right? That makes sense.

All right, and welcome back to episode 113 of the OK podcast, powered by the Strength Co. We are in the Strength Co. Right now, well, I say we, I mean the Royal Wee, me and my buddy. And we are recording episode 113 over the internet, as people do these days. Today's date is June the 9th in the year of our Lord, 2026. The price of Bitcoin is $61,385. and 28 cents. Some people would say buy the dip.

Some people would say you already missed the falling knife. I don't know. Some people say that no one really understands Bitcoin. You know what my reply to that is? No one really understands their wives. That doesn't mean they don't love them. Okay. So that is how that that's how Bitcoin works.

So if you love your wife, then you probably love Bitcoin. But Bitcoin is still pumping. We're still up about 20K. the start of the show 113 episodes ago. We can't put it into weeks. Someone else asked me this week. Grant, do you think you'll just keep the podcast going?

I said, you know, you say that like there's been times that I've been off from the podcast. The only time I've been off from the podcast was when my buddy was floating the South China Sea. Anyway, I digress. Episode 113, Mr. Jeff Bouget. Major type is currently definitely most likely, for sure, most definitely in a drilling status. We haven't heard from weeks. We've been sending him radio checks. We haven't heard anything from him.

We did get proof of life. We got proof of life today. Today. Yeah, we got proof of life today. Yeah. I was worried. We got proof of life today. Mr. Jeff Biggie is indeed alive.

Also, we are live on X right now. If you're live on X, you'll see if you're watching on X, Maybe it's Wednesday and you need your okay podcast fix and you can't wait until Friday. And God forbid you go back and listen to 112 old episodes. You're like, I want to know what's happening right now. You can watch it live on X. And if you watch it live on X, you get the bloopers. PJ fixes a lot in post.

There was just a blooper right now. If you're listening to it on Spotify, Overcast, Apple, podcast, wherever you get your podcast, because we're on all the platforms. You miss that. So you might want to go back on X. And those happen throughout the show. We intentionally place bloopers throughout the show so that the listeners and the viewers on X get the real deal.

In any of it, Mr. Jeff Biggie, drilling status. He is in 29 stumps, California, shooting artillery, preparing for whatever the nation may need for him. And we think he'll be back next week. We do know that he is alive, alive. That is the most we know. but I'm joined today in studio by Robert Gottlitz the third, often referred to as Tress or Trey.

And Trey is coming to us from Toledo, Texas. That's got to exist. There's got, yeah, Toledo. This is where Jeff usually fact finds and then tells us about it. No. No Toledo? I don't think so. Wow.

There's not even Toledo County. Nothing? Wait, hold on. Yeah. here we go here we go oh it is like on the border of louisiana oh just see what you what are you doing down that man oh Toledo boy but robert trege out's the third father of three three under three that's what he's always said he's got three under three he's wearing a Toledo mudhins hat thank you to Troy Campbell senior do we unveil those on the show yes remember I did not have mine that's right

I was left out. Yeah, and now I have another package that I was supposed to open today, and I forgot it. Look at that. You know, remember when I told you tonight I'd be on time? I should have never said that. I thought last week we had Adam Yale. I recorded from the gym because my buddy's getting ready to go to the Naval War

College, so his life's a little disaggregated right now. He's got stuff everywhere. Everything's getting packed up. And so I just left all the podcast gear in here. man, you would have thought when I came in tonight that I had never seen a computer. Like I could not figure out how to get this thing set up.

I blame Jeff. I'll always blame Jeff. I always have blamed Jeff and I'll never stop blaming them. But we got Robert Gottlitz of 3rd here. There's no guest. So if you come for the guest, leave. If you come for organized chaos,

which is what we have when Jeff's here, leave. It is me and Robert Trey Gowledge the 3rd. and we're just going to let it rip. We got a lot of talk about, a lot of fun items. I got to get clued in on this Texas tech thing. We'll get to that. But first of all, let me tell you, this podcast is brought to you by BW Tax.

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82 days until college football. Let's see. I'm going to pull up out. like stations and then I'm going to kick it over to the three alpha. Three alpha, okay. Three alpha. Let's get in the staff brief. Gentlemen, I just want to say good evening.

This is a three alpha. Again, filling in for the three out in the field. He asked me to be the RBE to kind of fill in, do the staff brief. So let's go ahead and kick this off, make a short and sweet. A real quick, team, trash six here. You're probably wondering why I got troops in the field and I'm not there. I had some important meetings that kept me from being in the field, had to check on some dumpsters.

You know, when you get to, when you get to 05 command, there's a lot of hidden moving items that people don't know about. But I'm be out there with troops tomorrow, pushing chow, feeding chow, and secure and trash. Go ahead, 3, Alpha. You write that down, sir. Okay, out tomorrow. Check.

Is that your platoon commander, no book? Oh, yes, sir. Straight from TBS. Okay, good. You got, you got, how the Marines are your platoon? You got you back from Ohio. Oh, yes, sir. You know it.

Pretty much all Ohioans. A lot of them. All right, sir, as I say, let's make the short, sweet or long and painful. However we want to do it. You know, we'll take it wherever way you want to do it. S1, S1. You got a thing for the group, one. All right.

wait, are you on the field? That's one? Add, you here? This is Trash 5. I also had to come in for some important meetings. Of course, sir. Yes, sir. This meeting.

Yeah. Yeah. Numbers are good. I took care of it as XO. Numbers are good. They're bumping. Oh, fantastic. All right.

Let's go to the Deuce. Deuce pretty much answer the questions. It's on everybody's mind. One, how are those drones or are they on the field? And then. Good. Good, is it evening or morning? Everyone keeps saying, I haven't had noon child.

Does that mean it's still morning for me? Yes, sir. Yeah. Oh, wait, is this the deuce? Yes, the deuce. Oh, yeah. You eat bag of trash? Yeah.

Good morning, sir, sergeant's major, Cajun-type staff. Go ahead, dude. We got to say down here, dudes. What you got for me, dude? Trash 5. Can we keep the sidebars to him, man? Oh, yes, so, so. Anyway, sir, I don't know why I'm calling you, sir. You're my peer because you're the three alpha, but I'll pretend to be briefing the trash

six and not you. Sir, the straight-of-hormuz is closed. And is that good? Actually, I'm just here to provide information, not analysis. It's closed. It's going to remain closed. We're actually in war over there on the Strait of Hermose. Things are getting shot down by drones, allegedly.

We do have 19,000 new types of drones that we're playing with out in the field right now. And next week, I'll have a drone report for you. It actually won't be me. It'll be my corporal Schmucketele type because I'm going to A&S on Sunday. Nothing for the group. Oh, fantastic. All right. going to three some phops that we got coming up it's a it's a lot of i just wrote down trash

and it's trash five um real quick uh three alpha good job we might have some people that don't know what phops means it's future operations for you're not military types go ahead three alpha oh yes pardon me sorry it's just duh uh phops uh i just worked down trash and then for cops current operations I said almost trash. So it's just, if that makes any sense to you, sir, things now will be trash in the future. We've got to keep that in mind as we kind of push through operations. Outside of that, I don't have much going on. The three did not write anything down for me.

I've just been my head down in McMtims, just making sure we're up to down training, tying training to... It's trash, you're telling me, you tell me you can't brief unless a field ground. officer writes you down notes that's correct sir yeah a sir this is trash five let me provide some top cover here for the three alpha uh he's he's new in the seat he's he's he's a good guy he he's actually from oh oh sure sure deliver that go mudhands go mud hands what what part what part of oh how are you from there three alva uh sir i'm party you heard of a toledo Oh, all roads run through Toledo. All right.

We've always said that. We always will. Kick it over to the four. A, a four, can you go ahead and fill us in what we got going on? Gentlemen, how are you doing this?

This is the four here. Oh, my God. I told you this is going to be a train wreck. A train wreck. Train wreck. It's going to be beautiful to watch. Yeah, yeah. So we have Faismo coming down the pipe here in a couple of years.

We have been preparing for that. As far as the dumpsters go, I believe we are mostly online. I think last I checked, eight out of 12 were online in the green. The rest are at first or second echelon maintenance. Not sure. I'll get back to you on that, sir. Outside of that, nothing further for the group. Back to you three.

This trash five. Great brief, four. Appreciate what you do. I also want to just annotate the four's hard work, sir. eight out of 12 dumpsters. We are the best battalion in all of trash division in terms of dumpster readiness. And I think it's a testament to our four

and his synchronization with the three who's currently in the field and even with the help of the guy from Toledo, the three alpha. So, sir, I just want to say maybe a name for them, sir. We can talk off the line. Real quick, this side of the major here, real quick forward. Is it possible to get a dumpster just for me specifically and the sexy over here.

Is that possible, sir? This is Trash V. Did you say for the sexy? No, so I said the six. Trash six. Are you from the Baju? So I'm about as deep in the bayou. I don't want goes, baby.

Yeah, so go tag. See the worst episode of all times. Hey, four, four and five, four, this is five. Can you answer Sergeant Major's question? Yeah, absolutely, Sergeant Major. We, of course, we have a dumpster just for you in the six. Yeah, we'll get that squared away. Oh, thank you.

Thank you, so. This is the, boy, this is the gulla sergeant major. I replaced the other Cajian Sergeant Major, and this is the gular sergeant major. And for those that don't know, you see, the Cajun Sajum mayor, he are French Creole type, okay? He's from the Bayou. Now, a lot of people see a Gullah and Cajun, and they think it's all the same. But the Gullah people, where I'm from, we more, we more, we got African roots, okay? None of this French fries crap, okay?

We got African roots. And so I'm happy to check in to Trash Battalion as the Gullah Sajun Major because I thought, Head Corps and Marine Corps look down at a battalion. They said two Cajun size of majors is too much. And they want to spread across like seasoning on potatoes. And so they booted him and I'm here now. And anyway, I just wanted to talk out of turn. Because could I also get a dumpster?

Because I'm making some frogmore stew this weekend. And I need somewhere to put my shrimp peels. Sorry, Major. Second, sorry, Major. Yeah, let me write that down for my notes here. me you could just call me to gulla sergeant major oh you're gonna okay uh yeah let me go right the d'n i get him a dumpster done okay yeah you'll have that wait a minute this is trash five uh for just something for you to think about we had eight out of 12

dumpsters operational and we've just we've just given two of two of are gone yep that's correct yep okay two are gone they're not down they're just in use uh so we might want to think about resource allocation and I'll get with the offline for. I'm going to go ahead and take it just half for that eight. We might need just half of those, four of those for our Crawfishmore. Hey, this is the gun, sorry, major. You can get me a deadline dumpster. As long as it still takes trash, it can be deadline.

The opening clothes, that's all I need. Oh, my goodness. Jeff, we're doing it for you. All right, let's get, let's get to the six and then get the outline stage. All right, six. Do you got to think, this is six, nothing for the groups, sir. All coms are good. Good brief.

All right, let's go to outline stations. All right. Let's see what we got here. We got Mike Kelly. Rumor has it. Sergeant Major is giving out leave for those who volunteered to police call all the trash after the crawfish boil. Gold taggers almond.

Just a second. A second. It's actually, sir, it's just another three days on top of the week of leave. It's not a full. It's not another four weeks. This is de gulla, Sergeant Media. He's going to be making crawfish, man. I'm going to be making frogmore stew, and we're going to see whose food you like better.

And whosoever likes it better gets to give away more leave. Yes, sir. Oh, man. Let's see. What else we got here? We got, uh, chaplain. Chafflin, yeah. Chaplin checking in.

I wanted to give an update on the devotional tracker. We had a lot of Marines reach out and ask for assistance on some of the terminology used. One of the terms was substitutionary atonement. I know that is a lot, but it can simply be explained here. He made him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf so that we might become the righteousness of God and Him, 2nd Corinthians 521, NASB 1995. In terms we can understand, Jesus Christ stepped in and picked up the trash for our area that we left behind. Not only that,

but he accepted the counseling, extra duty, and wrath from trash six that rightfully belonged to us. Nothing for the group. I'd also put it further that Jesus Christ came down from heaven as a sinless man, and he looked forward in all the trash that would

be left. And he died for those. I mean, he picked up their trash too. So I was looking back and looking forward. But thank you, Chaplain. Let's see. Kitchen 6. The 2026 World Cup brought millions of international visitors to the United States. Spain is experiencing Chattano, Tennessee, Argentina is experiencing Auburn, Alabama.

Germans are eating Waffle House. Brits are still complaining. The World Cup has been amazing and it hasn't even started yet. Okay, that's good. that's it for outlying stations we're a little light oh I hang on hang on honeybee which looks like a dog put in a tennis ball and Colorado checking in also here in sector 7 so love it yeah we got him I got one from I sent massonomics a message oh yeah what they say back it's they post some video

they post this video right here. I haven't seen that one, but I'm Instagram. And I sent a message. I go, hey, saw some good hoses in there. Oh. He said, can smell a hose from a mile away. Hose cups. We need hose cups.

I'm over here drinking out of porcelain cups. Ugh. That's why we call the staff brief. Let's see. Before we kick it in in no particular order, because Jeff's not here to organize a slide deck. I'm wearing the Strength Co. 250 years of American Freedom T-shirt.

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Buy shirt. Note made, okay. Yeah, I made the shirt. Good. All right. Are you driving? Who's driving this thing? I'll drive this thing. I'll drive this. You drive. You're just going to read top to bottom left to right.

I already know. No, I, pardon me once to get in. Let's, I had a lifting, lifting question. Okay. That's kind of, and it's probably nothing is, I won't even clip it. It's probably not going to be that good. Who knows? Yeah, well, hey, I just.

recorded a bunch of videos last week, so we're not even dying for clips. We can just have real dialogue right now. People just got tired of me asking you questions, probably. Well, if you had a question about taxes, who would you call? I called BW. Okay, if you had a question about helmets, who would you call? I call Mr. Helmet. If you had a question about free leave, who would you call? Oh, so maybe. So if you had a question about lifting. Oh, you know, I call Graham, maybe. Call Grant, and we're on the phone. So here we go. All right. Let's do this. So I, I want you to go back, put yourself in the mindset of Grant pre-starting strength. Nice.

Oh, sorry. I was having a seizure. Yeah. Sorry. I had a seizure just now thinking about me before I knew about fives. Fives. So it's back when you were just brolifting. So what lift, the question is, what lift did you used to think was a great, great lift when

you were younger. And since you've learned, like grew up more, got more knowledgeable, you realize was it just a waste of time. Yeah. You know, part of the problem with this question go ahead, poke some holes in it. Yeah, no, it's a straw man, okay? It's a straw man argument. You're making a straw man argument at me right now, Trey, okay? All right. I'm here for open dialogue. They call me Mr. Falsy, baby. Yeah, okay. No, in one sense, I don't know that I'm qualified to answer it. I have lifted my whole life, but I, you know, I found starting strength pretty early. So I guess what I'd say is I lifted YMCA as a high schooler and even younger.

So my brother's in high school. My brother Jordan, he's five years older than me. So he's, you know, 16, I'm 11. And like we're going to the YMCA and I'm like bench pressing. I'm doing leg extensions, which we know now is a really good movement. I'm doing some machine work, but like I'm a kid, right? And I'm doing that 13, 14, 15. Then when I got to the gym, when I got to college after my freshman year,

I wanted to get big. That was like, I want to get big. Yeah, the lights are off and I'm definitely home. And it seems like way too much work for this motion sensor to come on. Yeah, I'm going to do that like five more times this show. I got to set this thing up differently next week. And there's no like override. You need just like a tape on it.

You need like a Home Alone setup to where. Have you ever seen that movie? No. Okay. It's a lot. I mean, Jeff here. Yeah. I get the idea though.

There's like a kid. He's home by himself because his mom lost the plane ticket. And there's like two bad guys trying to come into his house. And then Donald Trump shows up. And he booby traps everywhere. Yeah. Like you combined Home Alone one and two. But yeah.

Like you've seen like it's been on TV. and I've like watched a lot of it. I've never sat and watched it start to finish. Home Loan 3 is the best one, but yeah. Is there a third? There's a third. Oh, I thought that was just when you and Abby went to dinner and left your kids at home. Home alone.

Three of them. Three of them. Zing. No, okay. So what happened were you doing in college? So in college, I got to, yeah, well, no, freshman year, you know, I'm doing Citadel required PT. And then my sophomore year, I lifted with a guy, Dave, Wade Coleman, and we would go to the gym.

We did a lot of bench press, a lot of inclined press, did a lot of upright rows, a lot of cable crossovers, a lot of tricep pushdowns. And I mean, I don't know that I would say any of that is a waste of time. I think it is a waste of time compared to if you just did the big barbell lifts, right? Like, Ripito's got a big thing that's been, it's like probably 10 years old. but, you know, now all the modern people, I mentioned to you in the pre-show. Most of the listeners don't know about the pre-show.

It's not the massonomics pre-show. It's just where I untangle my brain for 10 minutes before we start the show. And but I mentioned you should react to it and you're like, what are you talking about? But a lot of the popular videos now are a clip is played while someone watches it, someone with, quote, authority watches it. And then the clip ends. And then the person either, like, says why it's on point or why it's stupid. Gotcha.

So there's a, there's a, there's a clip of Ripeto that Brett Contraeus, which I forget what his brand's called, maybe it's just Contraeus. He coaches a lot of females into, like, you know, booty lifting is what I call it. And he has some squat and stuff, but he doesn't do hip thrust and stuff that, you know, he's, he's a good marketer. At any event, Ripato will say, when people, about lifts. Like, if you take your deadlift from 135 to 495, you got bigger.

That's just how it works. You got bigger and you got stronger. You don't go from a 135 deadlift to a 495 deadlift without getting bigger. And he says stuff like that. And so I think my point in all the lifts that I used to do before I knew anything was, like, I don't know that they were necessarily a waste of time, but it's just like, oh, what would have been a way more useful use of time would be just to like go in and squat suspension deadlift.

Now with that said, for those that are going to shame me and say he doesn't even look like he lifts and all that. One, that's true. Two, I could be doing a lot more if I was lifting for aesthetics. Like if I was like really trying to like get huge biceps or bigger traps, like I could lift a lot more. I'm not lifting for aesthetics. I'm lifting for usefulness and survival. Yeah, and I guess the question was phrase in the sense,

it was a little bit tongue in cheek, but it was more of like, you know, when you're younger, it's more vanity lifting versus now. Like I wouldn't do a bunch of upright rows. I probably wouldn't do anything with the cable crossovers, right? Like, I feel like we spent so much time in the cable machine. I mean, we did so many. We did, you know, what are they called?

Sevens, where you, you know, bicep curl, bring it halfway up, halfway down. Yeah. And then do the whole thing. And then you hand it to your buddy. And then he does it. And then you put that one down. You get a heavier one. I mean, I don't think all that was wasted time. I just, you know, now you just lift it with a different. It's a different. Yeah. No, it's, yeah, you're looking for a different reason. Yeah. No. Second, second question I have a little bit more serious one, though, is do you? So I've seen, I guess the algorithm either on YouTube or whatever I'm watching is trying to get me to buy some creatine.

So right now I don't take any creatine. Yeah. Are you a proponent with creatine? Yeah, but I don't think. Are you on that train? I am a big proponent, but I don't take it. You don't. Okay.

So if that answers, I did in my like early strength acquisition days, I did. But I also took like, you know, explode, Jack 3D. You know, I took all the stuff. Let's see if this works so we can get a rhythm. I got to figure out what the spot is that's turning the light back on. I hope Jordy clips is. What I have, here's what I'm going to stop turning it on. And this is just what you get and you don't throw a fit.

And PJ, you can fix it in post or not. I don't think anyone watches on YouTube anyway. If they do, no one's watching. Yeah, if they do, they get a dark, a dark lit tonight.

Yeah, dark or Darth. Attila the Hun is coming for me. And I need to get my Java Bean and, hey, play that song again. I just summarize Star Wars. There is Atal the Hut,

right? Yeah, Attila the Hut. Yeah. One of the, great guy. Better attack. Yeah. Han shot first. I've always said that.

You have always said that. I've always said that. I remember someone in my gym explained that to me one time and I was just like, nerd. Let me answer. You're trying to ask me real questions and I'm just being silly. I think routine is useful. I think of all the supplements that exist, there's science behind it that it's good for you. I think it has like good brain health. Some people say it can help naturally increase testosterone. It is essentially free, right? Like creatine myelotide is so cheap.

You kind of can't afford not to take it. I don't take it because of like money or I don't think it works. I just like don't want another tub in my kitchen that I have to move around. I have taken it. There's been periods of my life where I took it. very religiously, but no, I no longer. I'm not saying I'll never take it, but like I'm currently not taking it. I actually brought some deployed.

I bought some at a port call in Australia. And so I took it for like maybe two months on a while on ship. Yeah, Australia. Yeah, it's the good stuff. You can't get it here. It's like Wagyu. Yeah. Australian Wagyu, baby.

Australia Creati. This light being off is driving me crazy. That didn't work. Hopefully it's not the shirt that's going to get shipped to you. Hang on, I'm going to stand up. It's not going to come on. That's all right. Did you take, when you were trying to, let's say you were doing your rounds to, like,

get ready for it, like, to try to hit a PR. Yeah, I was taking it then. I was taking that. I mean, the idea is that it's making sure that your ATP levels are, like, topped off. and I think it was taking five grams a day. There's like a whole thing of like creatine loading and then taking it before and after. I think it's good. I think people should take it.

Particularly if you're just starting lifting, take creatine. It's not expensive. I just, the longer I've taught this and watched it, you know, I mean, I just right before we came on air, had 12 people in the gym over the course of an hour and a half that I was coaching. And we got a video that launches it if you're watching this now, it's out. It comes out on Wednesday. So if you're watching this on Friday, it's already out. It's called

like, I want you to do starting strength. And I basically talk about a class I just coached in all the different walks of life that people were in, right? And it's like, here's a pregnant mother. Here's a father of five who's 40. Here's a father of six. Who's a former Marine. Here's a 65-year-old lady. here's a 70-year-old lady, right? And I kind of go through to make the point that whatever your ailment is, whatever your excuse is, whether your excuse you don't have time because you have kids or you don't have time because you work or because you're pregnant or because you're old or because you have a torn rotator cuff.

It's like, no, like you need to come in and do it. And so my pitch to like those type of people, which are the people that I mostly work with or get asked about when they ask me about supplements, which I throw creatine in that bag, right, supplement is like first you got to build the habit of coming to the gym and coming to the gym three days, right? And then as you're coming to the gym for three days, you got to learn how to perform the lifts correctly. Okay, then as you learn how to perform the lifts correctly, as you're coming to the gym for three days, you got to add weight each time. Then you have to learn how to grind. Then you have to learn how to not be a wuss, right? Then you

you have to learn how to make sure that you're sleeping. Then you have to learn how to make sure that you're eating. Then you have to make sure that you're resting an adequate amount between sets. and there's all of these like behavioral and lifestyle things that you need to do first. And once all that's dialed in, if you're like, okay, I did everything you said, Grant, or whoever you're listening to, come to the gym three times a week. I'm adding five pounds each time. You know, I added a light day when I became an intermediate. You know, I did this kind of programming now, blah, blah, blah, blah.

My dead lifts at 385. I really want to hit 405. I'm sleeping eight hours a night. I'm eating a tub of peanut butter a day. You know, I'm doing all the things. Then I be like, yeah, take some creative. Like let's see if that pushes us over the edge, right? But generally, people want to supplement first.

They want to say, how can I replace all the work I need to do? And this supplement looks really cool. So I'll just buy this supplement. Whereas in reality, the answer is the supplement's the last thing that you should add in. You know, when I say last thing, it's also. After the peanut butter. Yeah. After the peanut butter.

People got a, you know, you can't, you can do all those things for a month. but I'm talking like lifestyle, you know, like long term. Not I'm going to get all into Strength Co, starting strength for six months and then quit, right? I'm talking about, you know, years. But no, I think it's useful. I mean, it definitely gets a lot of press these days. I mean, I remember taking creatine at high school. Maybe that's it.

Maybe you got to take it when you're young and, you know, pays dividends. And there was a church member over. And I was going to the, I was getting ready to go to the wide bench with my buddy Kurt. And I'm taking creatine. And they looked at my dad. They're probably a decade older than my dad. He said, is he taking steroids? Yeah, that's what.

I remember that's what I always saw. I'm like, oh, he's on creatine. Like an antibiotic steroid. Now everyone's on every peptide under the sun. It's like, I'm on this one. I'm on that one. Like, I don't know. I don't think I know anyone anymore where you don't walk into their house

and there's 17 syringes in their kitchen table. Those high school kids grew up, man, and they graduated to just peptides. Yeah, they just grew up. That's what happened. Starts for creatine. It's the gateway drug. Gateway drug.

It's what I was getting it. So that's why I don't take creatine because if I took creatine, next thing you know, I'd be on Trimblone and D-Ball. And I'm not ready for that. So you mentioned you shot some of YouTube videos. What kind of, anything good? Yeah. So I shot three. What a shoot.

I shot. I want you to do starting strength. I shot. the starting strength. And then two, basically, on the novice program, which I've done before. But they're about seven years old, six years old. It's kind of some updates, clarified some things. But one just kind of on the novice.

And then another one I called like the novice part two and three. And I think people get really hung up when it gets to the point of, everyone knows, rip at toes, squat, press, bench, deadlift, add five, you know, alternate the press in the bench. press, whatever. But as soon as, as soon as like the press starts to stall, I don't even like to say fail. People think fail like it's over. But as soon as that starts to like not success every time, or as soon as, you know, they stop deadlifting every time because it gets so heavy, people get really lost. Yeah. So I kind of shot some stuff to kind of clear that up a little bit. So I did that.

And then I'm going to shoot some more, shoot some more this week before I head up to Wisconsin. man it's a my dude well i'll be looking for them when they come out um hopefully you tax some stuff i can buy in it that's usually how i find out when i need to buy from the strength go that's usually i actually i think i think i pump some product more than i usually do because i was in the gym so i was just like grabbing products being like buy this i think i have a bit in there when i'm standing in front of the t-shirts and i'm like if you watch this and you never buy a t-shirt and you've never bought anything, go buy a t-shirt, you know, some kind of bit like that.

I don't remember exactly. The last thing I'm looking at. Oh, yeah, okay. And then remember, I was talking about going to Wisconsin. And then we'll move on to the next stuff. So I, it's funny. So I was doing,

I remember I was doing overhead press a couple days back. And like, I just wasn't feeling it. Like, it didn't get into a lot of, I don't know what it was. I just wasn't feeling it. I wouldn't feeling too good. And then I didn't get like the, my third set. I got like four. Yeah.

And then I went up, I just went up five pounds and next time. It was like the easiest thing. So I think what I'd do this last time as far as a lifting update. Oh, wait, two, you got five pounds and you got them all. Yeah, it got them all. Yeah, it felt great. You must have been pushing chow. That's probably what it was, man.

What was I at? 165? That's pretty good. 170. Yeah. Yeah. I did 270, last night on bench two.

Everything's moving, man. Three sets of five on that too? Yeah. All right. And are you doing three lists a day right now or are you? No, it's still one, man. Yeah. Yeah.

No, that's great. That's great. I got to do a video pretty soon on the Winler 531 program because I've gotten asked about that. But one of our gym members, Ray Toey. faithful listener of the podcast. He was asked me about it. And that's a one-lift-a-day program.

And I have my, I have a lot of respect for that program and a lot of things I like about it. Mainly, I think, is too slow. But the one-lift-a-day thing can be good. The only problem, I just don't like people going more than seven days without squatting, which 5-3-1 does not say to do that. But I just, that's the only problem. the problem with one lift day or that can be a problem is if if you're one lift a day and then like you miss a few days right and then if you pick up like so like let's see you squatted on monday and benched on tuesday and then i don't know your kids got a fever and your wife got dysentery and like wednesday thursday friday like you don't lift at all and then like the natural reaction would be okay now i'm gonna get back to the gym on saturday yeah i'm supposed to dead i'm supposed to press next or whatever it is

And whereas at that point, I would probably combine something or maybe do something lighter because I just don't like, when people don't squat for a long time, it produces a bunch of problems in terms of soreness when they do get back to squatting and just in terms of the movement pattern and stuff. So, yeah, usually I've been doing six days a week, one day off usually. And then it kind of gives you some flex. Like, hey, I got busy tonight. I couldn't do it. So it's, I kind of, that kind of moves around. but and then usually on the weekend like on a Saturday or Sunday I will do like two to three you know squat binge press death lift sure and so that's usually kind of how it works out but so far so

good man but all right enough of that yeah I'm headed to Wisconsin on Saturday going up to the foundry the way the flights work it's actually I was going to go on Sunday but then I got to do a bunch of connections. There's a direct flight on Saturday. So I'm going to Appleton, Wisconsin. So if you're listening to this and you're living in Wisconsin, I'm about to land. So I'm going to go to Milwaukee on Saturday and Sunday.

I think I'm going to go to a Massanomics crew members gym on Sunday morning to lift. Big Connor will be with me. Then on Sunday with some of the folks that we work with out there, I'm going to a Brewer's game. Excited about that. So we can talk sports. Never been to Brewers Stadium.

Yeah. and go to Brewers game Sunday. And then Monday will be at the machine shop and the coders. And then Tuesday, I'll be at the foundry. And this whole trip, for those that are asking, this is all about the, I mean, one, it's about just going to see all the folks we do a bunch of business with, but mostly about the 250 America 45 special edition plate.

So we've got some samples we're looking at. We've got some tooling that's getting done. we got a couple other things that I actually don't want to share yet that I think could be really, really awesome, but I want to go out there and look at it in person before we kind of do it. So if you haven't signed up for the America 250 plate, you should go do that.

That is for sure happening. You bet your sweet bippy. Like that is happening. I've made the tooling. That plate will happen. So go to the OKPockets.com. I haven't been put on the Strenko website and marketed to the public yet. I've just been doing some what I call like local marketing,

but like, you know, the okay podcast, some about a massonomics podcast, I'm on an X, um, and we're kind of harvishing emails to gauge the interest. And the reason I'm doing it that way is because when those demographics or populations respond, those demographics and populations,

uh, tend to buy because they are like bigger, um, fans, right? Or they're, they're already customers, most likely.

Uh, whereas when we, we, when we email tens of thousands of people, you know, it's like, oh, that sounds interesting. I'm going to throw my email in, right? And so you're trying to gauge on how many to make, to make it a true, like, you know, limited run. So that's happening. So you can go to OKPodcast.com, throwing your email there.

But I'll be up in Wisconsin. I might hit two home gyms. You know, I did a series when we moved from California, South Carolina, where I, every gym I went to as we drove across country. I call it training across America. I think there's like seven. videos. You can type in training across America and watch them. I think they're fun. I've watched that. Yeah, I went lifted at gym. So I'm going to do two out there. I was, I was literally looking at, all right, where's your Connor and I live in Milwaukee? Then I was like,

what am I doing? And so I went to Jim Radar, uh, poked around and then went to the mass dynamics discord and some guys like, oh yeah, you can come live to my house. I'm like, that'd be way more fun than like, you know, going to L.A., whatever nuts. So yeah, So it'd be a good trip. So, yeah. I just finished a book and the guy wrote about, he mentioned the New Orleans Athletic Club. I'm like, oh, great with there.

I don't know. Gages on him here. The Norwich Athletic Club is if you ever in New Orleans. Isn't the oldest gym? I forget all the history. I learned it. But if you're ever in New Orleans, you're probably not thinking about working out and you should be.

You should probably get whatever Satan's putting in your mind and get it out of your mind and get to the gym. that is one of the coolest gyms I've ever been to hands down like it is so unique it's like four floors the pool looked awesome it's like on the third floor it's old

there's a museum museum museum in it yeah yeah that was great that was awesome that was awesome Jim I feel like yeah it's the oldest gym in America or maybe oldest like fitness club

or athletic cup Yeah, let me see One of the oldest athletic clubs in the United States Okay, I think athletic club is like Third oldest Is what they're about saying Members don't just go to the gym 172. That's crazy

That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's it's a you can get married there. It's not, man, man, man, if I could do it again. Screw up, man, get a kid. Get a cage and Sajum major. I'm going to go everywhere. I'm going to go everywhere. knew my vowsy. Yeah. No, I'm jealous, man.

Wisconsin. I've always wanted to go to Milwaukee. Man, I've heard a lot of good things about it. Yeah, I've been before. Haven't been to a brewer's game. Milwaukee's great. I love Wisconsin. Wisconsin people are great.

They're like Americanized Canadians. And no one likes Canadians, but we like Americanized Canadians. All right. Enough belt lifted. But no, that's exciting. Man, because I see those plates look good. Shirts look good. So,

So tell me about you said, I know you got to, your buddy's got a move coming up. So I PCS once. So tell me, and I feel like I don't know if I did it right. I guess I did it one time, so it was right for me,

but is there a good way to PCS? So you PCS, this is a big part of the conversation. For those that are listening, permanent change of station, which means that we use it as a verb, and the Marine Corps, which means you're getting moved by the Marine Corps to somewhere else. PCS means permanent change of station, but we use it like basically saying like I moved

from one station to another. Yeah. You know what I mean? We do use it like a PC. Yeah. We do use it incorrectly. Yeah. No, I'm not saying it's incorrectly.

But I know like Chaplin is pretty bought in on all the terminology, but there are some people that may not be. But to back that up, you PCS. from Quantico to California. Correct. And then you got sent to Fort Sill. Correct. And so what you probably did practically,

because you were a single guy and everything fit in your, what you drive back in? Truck. I had a truck, yeah. You just drove everything to California, or maybe you stopped in Oklahoma and left some stuff. And then went to California. That's what Jeff and I did.

Jeff and I did it together. So we left for, we left Quantico, Virginia. He had his Jeep. He had Jeff when she still has. I had a 1999 GMC Sonoma with a camper top. And we drove,

our plane was we had to be in California for two weeks for OJT before Fort Sill. So we drove to Fort Sill and we left our vehicles filled with all of our belongings. I also broke down in Holly Springs, Mississippi. And we had to change of fuel pump

and Jeff and I went to Graceland too, and we should tell that story when Jeff's on the pod. But anyway, we went to Fort Sill, Oklahoma. We parked our cars on base, and then we bought out-of-pocket plane tickets, flew to San Diego, then out-of-pocket rented a car, and then we stayed at Sharkey's motel on base in Delmar

for the two weeks. And I remember the lieutenant colonel when we were leaving, And they were like, you paid for all this? And I was like, they're like, you could have PCS here. And it was like, yeah, you were ready to pay to get me to California. But then you weren't going to pay to get me to Fort Sill. Or if they were, they didn't articulate the two bright, new shiny second lieutenants. So we applied logic, which you can never apply logic to the situation.

We're like, we'll drive to Oklahoma. We'll leave our cars. We'll have to drive halfway across the country. We'll fly over there. The Marine Corps did get us in hotels for two weeks. So we'll just split a rental car. We'll just split a rental car and we'll work for two weeks. And then we'll fly back to Ford Sill.

And then when Fort Sills over, we'll fly to, or we'll drive to California. And that's what we did. So that was a PCS. Did you do it like that? No. So ours, I feel like they. It was kind of. Like a month after us or two?

It got delayed a little bit. And so we were, I had to wait like, government shut down. Three or four weeks. And I remember the Exo at TBS goes, hey, I can't legally tell you you have to do this, but I don't have space for you here at TBS. So can you

take leave? So I showed up to Fort Sill like two weeks in the hole and leave. That's perfect because your whole lieutenant time, you get shamed if you take one day.

It's true. You earned it all back and then sold 60 and still lost some probably. It's true, but I remember that first Christmas, like, I said duty Christmas and Christmas Eve because, like, I was in the hole. I couldn't take leave. So I'm like, well, I guess I'm just, I'll bite the bullet and just do. I'll just do. You know who else's at duty on Christmas?

Who? General Mattis. Oh, man. Me and General Mattis. Me and General Mattis. That could be the name of your book. It is the name of my book. Me and General Mattis.

Narrated about a cage. They call him the warrior monk. They call me the war. Or your baggy. I thought about it. Or your chow guy. We do got to talk about chow radar.

Anyway, PCS. I dropped that in there, which is why you're bringing it up. So then I did, you know, my Tamutton, a deployment. And then I PCA'd to Seal Beach, which means it's close.

Being. It's close enough that you don't rate a full move. We're going to give you like a stipend. Like you're just, I think based on the Marine Corps, we're just going to give you like two grand. Go find a place to like live closer.

Because Pendleton's, you know, 60 miles from, like I figured out the sweet spot for the light. Look at that. From Seal Beach. I say I'll have to say, I do my tour at Seal Beach,

Ait and some change. I get out. And then I go to the reserves. And then I learn all about reserve travel and all that stuff. And then I get, when I moved back to California from South Carolina to facilitate my deployment, that was out of my own pocket. The Marine Corps was ready to just deploy me from South Carolina.

I moved back to so my family would be closer to, you know, my wife's family while I was gone. Yeah. So I didn't do that. So anyway, so this thing comes up. My buddy's going to Naval War College. And I asked the warrant officer, like when my orders get written, I'm like, hey, like, how does this work?

He's like, oh, just like your active duty day, sir. And I'm like, I be biased as a second lieutenant and like I didn't own anything. I own like a shotgun, a deer head and like a blanket. Oh, yeah. And he's like, just like that. So I had to do some digging to figure it out. And there's like all this stuff that you rate. But I will, I will cliff note it.

If any Marine, actually the season Marines are probably laughing at me. but here is the funny part, the reason I dropped it in. I am a reservist, which is weird and breaks active duty people's minds. I am technically stationed in Fort Dix, New Jersey. But I am a South Carolina resident. But my home of record in the Marine Corps, where I currently reside, is Coast of Mesa, California. So because I'm Coast of Mesa, California, when you go, and to build your move and like whatever the website from 1984 is they assign you the moving office

out of pendleton so then i call pendleton and i'm like hey i'm flying i'm electing to fly i got a pregnant wife a baby two cats i'm going to fly so the marine corps's going to move all my household goods in a pod they're going to pay to fly us and i'm just going to pay out of pocket to ship my car because pregnant wife, two cats, and a baby cross country doesn't sound fun to me. So it's like that's what we're going to do. So they send me the form to fill out to like request your flights. And it's like you can pick San Diego or LAX. And it's a word document.

And it's not even like a word document that you can fill out. You know those word documents where you have to like highlight the underline thing. Yeah. And then select underline and then type. Like, it's like, it's so antiquated. So I'm like, filling this stupid thing out. And I get to like, John, or I get to San Diego, L.A.X. And I just like delete that.

And I just write like SNA John Wayne. And, you know, I email the document in. And of course, there's layers of government before this where they send me the document, but I can't download it because I work from, I access the government. system remotely from like a civilian laptop. And when you do that, you can't download. So I call the lady.

I'm like, hey, this is a civilian that sends me a document. I'm like, I can't download it. She's like, what's your personal email? I'm like, it's not going to work. Secor shut that off like three months ago. You can't like email civilian account. She's like, oh, no, I do that all the time. I'm like, okay, here's my personal email.

She calls back like 30 minutes later. She said, yeah, it keeps getting kicked back. I'm like, yeah, I told you. It doesn't work. So it's just like send me this like 1994 Word. document over DoD Safe. And I got to like go in there and download it. It's this whole process.

I fill it out. I send it out. And then I get called, kid you not from a PFC, female type. I don't remember the name. She's like, hey, sir. Started last week. She's like, hey, sir, you fill out the document incorrectly. I'm like, oh, okay.

Thanks, PFC. I forgot the name. We'll call her Smith. Smith. What's incorrect about it? Well, sir, you're supposed to select L.A.X or Sandy. Diego because you're a Pendleton, because you're based in Pendleton. And I just like stopped because I'm thinking, do I even try to explain to this PFC that's

working at DMO, then I'm a reserve major technically assigned to Fort Dix, New Jersey, but in a dwell period after activated and living in California, but I'm a South Carolina resident. and I do rate travel from Costa Mesa to Newport Beach. And the only reason I'm on the phone with you is because when I submit the stupid government document thing, it goes, oh, Pendleton DMO office is close. Like, I'm like, it's not even worth it, right? And I just go, okay, you're just going to send it the travel agency, right? She's, yes, sir, we have to pick one. And I said, why don't you just submit it like it is?

and she goes, well, sir, if I'm going to do that, then you have to sign a statement of understanding. I said, oh, so there is like an option here. She says, yes, because they're going to book it from San Diego because that'll be cheaper. And then they're going to, anything that costs extra for you to fly out of the airport you want, you're going to have to pay. I said, okay, send me the statement of understanding.

Of course, she sends it to me over email. I can't download it. I got to call the civilian lady. Get it back into DOD save. Get the document. Dude, what could have been taking 10 minutes? was like a four-day process. And then they sit in the travel agency.

You know the travel agency does? Books it right from the airport I want right to the airport I brought, like the exact legs I wanted. And I'm just like, this is so government-y. There's a lot of good things of Marine Corps get at. That ain't one of them. That ain't one of them. God bless them.

We appreciate her service. You know what? She's doing her job. Good for her. Oh, man. Should you start the show? Let's start the show. You want to talk some sports?

I do. I want to talk college world series, really. I have not. I have not been keeping up with it. So you're going to have to fill me in on what I've missed. Okay, I'm not great. And this is actually, when we get to Texas Tech, I'm going to make a comment that I think you'll appreciate.

Here's what I've been following. Mom went to Chapel Hill. Chapel Hill is a super regional host, and they were playing Southern Cal. So my mom likes to send me Chapel. hill gear and she's like it doubles a Citadel gear. I'm like it doesn't. It says UNC and has a goat

and it has a goat on it, but sure. But I appreciate that she sends me sure. So she sent me in this nice polo. XL has like a little NC on there. And I've been following the Super Regional's because I'm really interested in what Oklahoma does. I know you don't care about Oklahoma, but Citadel

hasn't made it in 16 years. Had it been to the World Series since 91. I'd love Oklahoma to win the College World Series and be like, oh man, it would make me really excited for next year, right? Like, we were right there. We were out on the doorstep. So that's why I'm tied in.

So I've been following Oklahoma's super regional. And then my mom cares. So I've been following Chapel Hills. And they're playing Southern Cal so I wore that polo to church on Sunday thinking people would be like, oh, Trojans are playing. And like, not a single comment. No one has an idea. Like, that's how great California is. No one even's like sports?

Why don't I watch sports? Like, just go to the beach. So Chapel Hill won in pretty cool fashion. Their final game. So when you're in the regionals, it's double elimination. It's like losers play losers, winners, and losers again. And then when you get to Super Regional, it's just like a best out of three deal. So it was a rubber game, one-on-one.

And Chapel Hill, I think, was down by one in the bottom of the eighth. and they went to the bottom of the ninth down by one, and they scored two runs and walked it off. Oh, okay. And beat Southern Cal. So, yeah, it was a really dramatic finish. But I think you had Texas. And then Conner's mom is a big, big sports fan,

like way more than Conner. She loves Texas. I know you hate Texas. I mean, not the state. Yes, yeah. Is she wrong? She lived in Austin. I can't remember if she went to school.

she may have gone to school. She spent a significant amount of time in Austin. She's like, she's got a, like, she's legit. Yeah, it's legit. Yeah, it's legit. I've never gotten to those details, but she cares. And so we were at their house Sunday. His dad made us tri-tip. My post-deployment tri-tip, we've been trying to eat it for six months.

We finally ate it. And the game was on. So I saw they beat Oregon. But it's like Texas, did I post in there? Who's in? I think I posted in there. And I posted a graphic. If you did, yeah, you did.

No, maybe I didn't. Oh, no, I posted it in the sports thread on Slack. No, I didn't do it there either. Anyway, Oklahoma, Chapel Hill, Alabama, Texas, eight teams. I can't remember them all. But, yeah, no, I'm excited about it to watch. One, because my mom's got a dog in the fight. And then, two, I'm just excited to see what Oklahoma does,

mainly because it would just fire me up because I bought, you know, the Citadel won the Southern Conference. So I like the, you know, I'm going to say Big 12 because in my mind, Texanams Big 12. That's not a slight. It's just like when I grew up there, Big 12. But if Texanam had like the R.C. Slocum, 1999 Big 12 champions, like that's cool. That's cool to me because it's like a moment in time, right? It's the 250 American Stranko plate. It's like there was, you could only get it then because now it's gone.

Yeah, so I got the Citadel, you know, 2026 Southern Conference champions. And so I'm hoping, you know, OU goes and does well because then I'll be fired up about next year. They're essentially... They could be runners up. They'd be runners up and... Yeah, that's the only way.

So I look at it too. Yeah, that's college baseball. I think it starts Friday. Okay. I think first games Friday. I've been, I just watch it. I've been kind of casually keeping up with it. Dude, this NHL has been a really, dude,

this NHL postseason has been nuts. I watched really faithfully until the finals. Now it's what, 2-2? I watched, I watched. Who came storming back the other day? The Golden Knights. Carolina, like four goals in 35 seconds. Yeah, that's, yeah, yeah.

yeah that one's pretty good to tie it and then they ended up winning i think yeah it's two too yeah it's five it's been it's such a good series man um like i said i i should have been watching more of this and then you got and then you got wimby in the finals yeah yeah yeah i thought it was over in the garden dude i love the way the nicks actually the only people that care about the finals or have cared and i have two yeah Once the Celtics lost, I'm like kind of tuned out. But yeah, I would love to see the Spurs come back and win. I just, it makes you do those.

I was seeing, saw some on the ticket prices of those Madden Square Garden tickets. Of like the nosebleeds were like above a grand. Dude, my brother and I, he's a Home Depot exec. He took me. I didn't take him. But we went to an NBA finals game for the Celtics. and you know what it is I think you'll understand this

and that's not to slight your intelligence but I just mean I grew up around a lot I grew up in my dad's family of caring about city sports where it's like where I grew up we cared about like football college football right

and there's like kind of two different things right so you have people yeah and so you take all of New England and they're all Boston fans and there's 18,000 seats in the garden. And it's like, what? Like what? Like the hillbillies in South Carolina are putting 88,000 worms price.

And you're telling me all of these states over here. And like in South Carolina, you get another school to choose from, right? It could be Clemson, right? Or it could be whatever. So that's why the ticket price. I don't understand. I mean, I guess I understand why the arenas are so small because otherwise it wouldn't be fun to watch.

I don't know. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. But yeah, the ticket prices actually make sense to me. I don't like them. But when you tell me Madison Square Garden costs that much, I'm like, of course it does. It's New York. I think how many people are there?

And like, yeah. Anyway. That's, yeah, I don't know. But no, I hope that goes, we'll see how that goes to. I hope Spurs will come back. I've been kind of low-key following them as well. Yeah. So it's, it's 3-1 or it's 2-1?

Who they two one Next game tomorrow It's the it's the it's the third win when it always gets all the stats just pumble Yeah But um I mean I just we got to talk about text tag Okay let me tell you you got to get me on target Okay

Well first Okay I don't think you understand how far off target I am Okay, go. I saw judge intervenes and the quarterback, I don't even know his name. Sorsby. Sorsby is allowed to play. Correct. And then I saw all these schools saying, fine, we're not going to play Texas Tech.

Yeah. And then I saw the tech tech coach like coming to bat, but I have no idea what the infraction is, what the punishment was supposed to be. Or if this guy was good. I'm aware that Texas Tech was good last year. But I don't actually know, like, what did he do? So it's, well, let's back up a little bit. Texas Tech has been making headlines all offseason, right? Actually, I would say since last year.

More than Lane Kiffin? No, more, yeah, as much as Lane Kiffin, I would say. But, you know, since they have, like, the big donors now, like they've been making a bunch of waves. And then this offseason, they've been making headlines because they challenged Texas to play. Like, they were going to buy out Texas's opponent and their first opponent so that they could play the first game in the season. So they've just been running their mouths all off season. And they're slowly becoming the most hated college football team like in America.

And then this kind of just like pushed it over the edge. So Brendan Swordsby was a transfer from Cincinnati? Did he play last year for Texas Tech? No, he's a transfer. He's a new transfer. So he got in trouble for gambling. He was gambling on, like, I don't know, like, anything that he could, like, find. Like, it was, like, weird stuff that he was gambling on, too.

Like, you know, cat races and turkey. Like, it was just, like, weird stuff that he was just like. I'm still on board. Tell me the weird stuff. I can't remember what it was. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So I think what you meant is cock fights. That's it. I don't know.

Yeah, the weird stuff that you can think that's what he was doing. So he was like a total of like 90. For the listeners, that was, that was a game cock reference. And so people do cock fights. Continue. Just didn't want anyone to think I meant. So he ended up like I think he ended up gambling like $90,000 dollars total of just like of money.

And so he was gambling on sports, college sports to be included. Once he was playing in? I don't think he was playing in it, but you, if you're an athlete, you can't gamble on any, it's like an NCAA rule. You can't gamble on anything. So if I'm playing in the NCAA, I'm not playing Devils A kid. I just don't understand it. If I'm, if I'm a college football player and I want to, I'm out of season and I want to go and gamble on,

I don't know, draft kings, whatever it is, on a Citadel women's volleyball match. That's illegal? Yeah. You can't, you can't do that. So, for example, there's another. That's like when you play in the NCAA. Okay. Okay.

So, like, for example, there's another country. That is true. It is free country. But not when, I guess not when you're getting a scholarship. But. Yeah, okay. Should use Bitcoin. That's, you should have.

But there was, like, for example, there's another kid up in. maybe Iowa, I think he was going to, up in the Big Ten somewhere. He gambled like a hundred bucks on like a women's basketball game and got caught. And then he lost his scholarship and couldn't play anymore after that. This kid's betting. Soresby's betting tens of thousands of dollars. Huge amounts on everything. It gets caught.

Gets caught. And then he, from my understanding, he got caught. and then NCAA ruled, hey, you're ineligible to play. You're not allowed to play. So a local judge in the Lubbock area who's also a Texas Tech grad. Texas. Texas. I feel like you're about to dig a hole right now.

Texas. Went to Texas Tech. There's a reason you were in a Toledo hat right now. That's it. Said, hey, he overturned it and said, hey, he's. he's eligible to play for some bogus reason. And now it's like self-imposed. He's going to set out the first two games as a punishment.

He went to rehab, yada, yada, yada. But he's going to rehab for gambling? Yeah, they have gambling. Gamblers are anonymous. Oh, GA. GA, baby. So, yeah, so then he overturned it. And he's like, hey, he can play 2026.

and that is what kind of essentially really boiled down, simplified, is that's kind of what happened, is that this judge, who's obviously a fan of Texas Tech, overruled it, and now he can play in 2026. So can these schools still pull out from playing? Yeah, 100%. Athletic directors can, like, they're the ones who make the schedules. And so they can change it, do whatever they want to.

So then Texas Tech ends up. playing who? Well, Texas Texas is what, Big 12? They're Big 12, but man, yeah, and that's the thing is that don't you have to mandatory play everyone in your conference? Unless you boycott them. I guess you technically can.

That's a real, like, you can actually just be like, no, I don't want to play this team. Yeah, like you make your, you make your schedule. So, yeah. So if you, so if Texas Tech doesn't play enough teams in their conference to win, then they can't win, right?

That's what I In their conference anyway It's kind of uncharted territory man I don't think anybody's ever done this before But it's you know It's kind of like The NCAA has like no power right And so like

It's like egg on the face of anybody Who's ever like done a self-imposed ban Because they were afraid of the NCAA's ruling Man Now Tex is like nah we're good We're just going to do whatever we want to do So I don't know It kind of just proved that

Something needs to change with the CAA to where there's actually governing authority because, you know, nothing's going on there. But it's absolutely nuts. Everything is going on at Texas Tech. That's what they call them the Red Raiders. Dude, I'll be, I'll be curious kind of how that goes down. But nobody likes Texas Tech right now, which makes me pretty happy. But you don't dislike them more than you dislike Texas.

Correct. but man, I remember when we played them. Oh, yeah, real quick, Katie and John, Media. Would you rather, would you rather be TACIS Tech or the Tigers? Oh, Tigers. Oh, man. Love that. Go, tigers.

My dislike for LSU's up there with, I would say, the long, the short horns. That's why we, that's why. That's why we don't brought the gullas, Sergeant Major. just in case that taste. He's a too late. He's a green wave. You don't understand. We're in the deep south.

We in the, we in the Crio. We like coastal Carolina. We like the Citadel. I'm a real southern gentile. Gentile man. Oh, man. Oh, dude,

yeah, that's crazy. Let me see. Let me know. Let me ask you a question here. Let me drive for a second. Tell me about why. Kids being sick is so awesome. Well, let me make sure we don't have many sports to wrap up.

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It's been, I think the last. It's like last two or three weeks, man, it's been back to back. Just craziness. Some Oregon Trail disease that they get from daycare. And it's just they don't get it. You know, it'd be nice of them if they all got it at the same time. It's not how that works. No, dude, they're mean enough to just like get it one, one at a time.

It's been fan. So recently we've had hand-foot mouth disease going around each one individually. So hand-foot-mouthed disease. I'm aware that it's in the title. Children seem to get it, but is it like a rash on the hand, the foot in the mouth? Is it like snores?

It's kind of like sores. So if they get it in their mouth, it's like sores, right? Inside, like inside the mouth, not like inside their mouth. Okay. Yeah. So that's kind of, that's what they have now. The twins have had it before,

and it was like around, like, their on their hands and on their feet. And that was more, that wasn't as much sort of, it's kind of like chicken pox is what it's kind of looks like. But dude, it's just, it's more annoying than anything. But it's, uh, you know, just puts a wrench like you're like,

hey, I've these weeks scheduled out. I'm going to do this for work and it just all goes down the drain. Oh, dude. And then I'm imagining like bedtime routines are ruined and sleeping routines are ruined. Oh, dude, have you heard him? I haven't on this. Are they up right now?

Oh, yeah. They're up right now. You know what? Hey, you only get to do it once, though, man. I guess you take the good with the bad. Yeah, that's true. I try to remind. I think about that all the time.

I think today's an example. And for the old hats, they got 10-year-old kids and 12-year-old kids. You're all going to laugh at Grant. where there's 20-month-year-old trying to act like as an expert, and I'm not at all by any means at all. But it's like, you know, today, my wife's been really wanting to get back in the gym. She's been getting back to the gym. I've always told her, we make the joke of I've always said that,

but I've literally have always said, like, I own business. Like, if you tell me you want to go to the gym at 10 a.m. on a Tuesday, like, I'll make it happen. you know, 99% of the time. Man, this dang light, there it is. I was like, I'll make it happen. But like, you know, you got to let me know. And so she's been lately real good. And she's like, hey, I want to, you know,

I want to go to the gym at 9 a.m. on Tuesday today. I was like, no problem. So I got up, you know, 5.30. I went down to the beach, went for a run. And then I grinded on the laptop for however long. And then I got my daughter. And, you know, I told D. I said, just take until like noon.

I'm like just like go to the gym but like go get a fun coffee go to Target you know like whatever it is your Home Depot whatever you need to do see I threw that in for you there brother whatever you need to do like go do it and like I'm good and I'm walking around and I'm at a park and it's like me and all the nannies and you know the the kids and I think I was I bet there was probably seven kids at that park there's around 10 in the morning. morning and I was the only person that was a parent. And I would just kind of observe that. And I'll say that as like a pat on my back. But I was just like and then my phone started ringing. And I started getting emails in and for a second, you know, Isabelle's like playing

in the sand. I started to look. And I was like, you know what? Like I'm going to like Diana's going to come home. And I'm going to go to the office. I'm going to get to work. Like I'm just going to like I really do only can do this once. You know, like you'm just going to. Maybe I'll miss some huge call that could have been life-changing. I don't know. I feel like hanging out with my daughter's pretty life-changing. Yeah, I would say that's definitely, you know, it's kind of like I remember like I was, everybody woke up and then like, I'm like, just go, let's go grab the kids and like,

we'll put them in bed. And so we're just all sleeping in this bed and trying to get these babies go to sleep. And it was like, I'm like, and I was just like looked over. I'm like, dude, I'm never, this is never going to happen. like after two years from now. Like this won't, it won't be the same. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. No, 100%. Yeah. I woke up dead tired the next morning, but I'm like, that was worth it. So.

Yeah, it's worth it. And obviously there's like things you have to do, right? And there's like jobs that people have that they like don't have, you know, the luxury at 9 a.m. to go back and watch their kids. Like,

I understand all that. But I just in terms of like the mindset of like, this is like it's, it's one and done. Like it's, uh, once they shove, like that's it. So it's just like, all right, I was going to.

Unless you decided to start all over and just have more than, you know. Well, but even then. But even then, it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, I'm with you. I mean, we are struggling all over, right? We're doing September. But it's like, it's still like this, this reality we're living in right now. It's like my wife is pregnant and I have one child.

Yeah. Like, this reality exists until September. Yeah. And then like, it's a whole different thing. And then it's, you know, it's like two. And then it's like, well, now this one, like right now, every day is a new word. And it's like pretty soon it's going to be, you know,

yelling at me in full sentences, you know. So, yeah, I don't know. I try to keep the perspective. No, I think it's a good one, man. Yeah, we've always said that. Now that perspective's tough to hold against tall grass. That's sometimes it really is. That's so true.

Against tall grass. I can tell you about my. new trees. Yeah, I was going to ask you about that next. Oh, well, you go ahead and ask me as a facilitator. I heard, uh, worked through the grapevine. You planted some little Johnny Appleseed over here. Oh, you plants for new trees.

This is the gun of Sergeant Major. You thought I planted grape vines? No. Yeah, no, I guess some new trees. I, um, so we leave in July to go to Newport, Rhode Island. If you guys haven't figured that out, my buddy is me. spoiler alert. And so we got our home here in California

and we're renting it out to a tenant and it just dawned on me. It's California, so housing's tight. This is not a little house on the prairie. This is not, you know, Texas and a big ranch. Like if you live in Southern California, near the beach, there's people all around.

And so there's been some upgrades that we've wanted to make in terms of getting a little privacy. We were very blessed to have like a fairly large backyard for the area that we live in. We're not like, you know, we're not like Waco, Texas, you know, 25 acres. Yeah, no, but it's sizable. And but there's some multiple story townhomes behind us that kind of looked down in.

And back in the day, there was a wooden fence. And I had built lattice on top of it. And I had a really nice Bogan Via plant, which is like a flowery vine that had done it. and it would provide like a nice hedge. And the fence, you know, the HOA gets to change the fence. So they changed the fence while I was deployed. And they didn't ask me about my Bogun Via. They just cut it all down.

And the fence got out. And I got a brand new, nice fence. And now the neighbors can see right in. And so it's been, this light, man. There it is. It's been a little bit, it's been fine. but it's been like, man, you know, I wish I had. And I got some suns sales up that provide some like protection from the house.

But it's like if you're in the backyard with your baby, you know, running around, you're like, it's kind of annoying people can see it. So anyway, I planted some silver sheens. There's a technical word that starts with like a P. It's a California hybrid plant. It's a tree. And yeah, I got four of them. My backyard fence about 20 feet wide.

And so I planted them every six feet. And yeah, no, I'm really fired up about the trees. They look great. And then I'm mostly fired up that while I'm gone and I got someone living in my house, they're going to grow. And when I come back, they'll be ready. Pitosporum. That's it.

Pittosporum. I was never going to try that as a homeschool kid. Fast growing evergreen. Dude, that's a good looking tree, man. It's good looking tree. How many do you end up getting? I got four, 15 galloners. And so they just like crest the fence right now.

And I think, you know, when we come back next June, yeah, I think they'll be, you know, they won't be. One day they'll be doing everything I need them to do. But I think it'll be a lot better. So yeah, I got those in there. And yeah, it looks good, looks good. Yeah, those look sharp, man. This warrants.

Yeah. that's what I need to get some in our backyard you can just see directly into the neighbors can you have sat in your backyard I'm trying to remember if it did it's so I got a six foot fence but kind of sits high and then as a backyard kind of slants down you can kind of see on the other side so you can see into them or they can see into you both yeah yeah so I just I'm yeah so I mean that's it's just like it's it's fine like I'm got nothing against those neighbors, but it's just like, you know, sometimes it's... You want some sort of privacy. Well, it's like I get my baby up in the morning. I make an espresso. I walk out there in my underwear with my shirt off. My kids in their diaper.

And it's like, I don't know that I want them looking at this. And they probably don't want to be looking at it, right? Like they might like to see something different. Or if they like it, that bothers me even more. Oh, geez. So we got some pitosporums up. Did you plan them yourself? Nope.

I bought the trees and the reason I didn't, so I had a guy come in and quote the whole thing, he was going to buy the trees and I didn't like that. So I ended up going, my uncle, I got an uncle out here in his late 60s, and he's like a plant guy. And like he's like, he's in psychopede of plants.

he would never go on a podcast. I wish you would. But he comes over to the house and I told him my problem set. And he was like, okay, this is the kind of tree you want. So I'm like, okay. So then I said, this is a quote I got. He's like, no, no, no, do not get the tree from the guy. You got to go look at the trees and I'll go with you.

And we got to go to this place. I'm like, well, why are we going to this place? He's like, because they lifetime guarantee the tree. I'm like, am I worried about the tree dying? He's like, no, but you never know. in this place is in Newport and they're used to very finicky customers because a lot of people in Newport Beach, California are like super wealthy and super finicky. He's like, so he's like, if you go and get him here, anyway, so we went, I went, I bought the trees and it was a couple hundred

bucks less per tree than the guy had quoted me for. And the reason I ended up having the guy playing them was because I have turf in my backyard. And so I wanted like bend aboard around. where all the trees were and then the turf match back up. And like, I technically could do that, but like I want that done pro. Yeah. So, um, TVM. Yeah.

So I, I've sourced the trees, put the trees in black beauty, brought them to my backyard, put them right where I wanted them. I was there. Felt a little demasculated that I didn't plan on myself. But I was at the gym while they were being planted. I came home. They were planning and the turf was all tuned up. I was like, oh, I'm so glad I paid for that.

Dude, I'm all about, I'm all about doing it. Like, hey, if I can pay somebody to do it, I'm on, that's the side I'm on. Well, and I would mess it up, right? I'm taking my pride out of it. Yeah, yeah. I would, I would plan him at an angle or I'd accidentally pour gasoline in a hole and kill it. Like, I'd mess it up. I'd mess.

Uh, well, potential sponsor Newport Tree Company. I'm not sure it's fault. Strong Gardens. I tried to get them from Home Depot, and this is actually a good tidbit. I'm always going to plug Home Depot because my brother's good to me. Tried to get them from Home Depot. They didn't have them. They had the, what is it, potus porous?

Pitus form. Yeah, I'll never be able to say that. They had them, but they had them in like five gallons. What I wanted was them to be cresting the fence right now so over the next 12 months, they could really go. And they didn't have them in that size. and then a couple other places I went before I got my uncle involved would have pitiforms a hybrid tree

which means, you know, they use multiple plants to make it. But so people might have four, 15 gallons, but two would be a different kind of hybrid than the other two. And I wanted them to all match. Yeah. And so that's why I went with the ones that I went with. But anyway, I sent my brother the photo and I said, hey, just so you know I tried to get these from Home Depot.

And he just said, well, I sent a text to him and my dad. And my dad, when we were kids, and to this day, anytime you leave my dad's house, like, Trey, if you went to my dad's house, I hope you do sometime. And you sat there with your three daughters and Abby. And you said, okay, you know, Pastor Carl, like, thanks for lunch. Like, I got to leave. He'd say, let me pray for you real quick. Then you, a good church Christ guy, would say, yeah, of course.

So he'd bring in, he put arms. around as many of usually could and there'd be like a big huddle like a you know like a football huddle and he'd you know say lord jesus and he'd pray a bunch of stuff and then he would say we and we pray a hedge of protection on this family edge of protection all the time hedge of protection hedge of protection if i've heard it once i've heard it 55000 times so i take a photo i actually took a video of the trees and i call my neighbor karen she's not karen but I call her Karen, but I say, I planted a hedge of protection against Karen. And, you know, they're like, oh, those look great.

And I said, Jordan, I tried to give him at Home Depot. And I said, but they didn't have them, blah, blah. And he just said, ye have not because ye ass not. That's that gulla in them. So if you live near our Home Depot and you need 15 gallon trees, goes try to special order from Home Depot. All right. I'm looking through.

I think we got a I think we got a shout out the chili cookoff due to last week's guest Adam Yale. Oh, 100%. And then I think we got to cover the New Orleans ghost doors. That's the other one I was going to say we got to bring up to you. So chili cookoff, if you didn't listen to last week episode 112, you probably did because there's like three people that listen to this podcast and you guys listen to all the episodes. So we appreciate that.

All three. We love you. Adam Yale pitched the Tustin, Chilil. cookie off last week on the show. I was in the gym Saturday. He came in to lift in the class. There was another couple in here. He's talking about Tustin' Chili cookoff.

That couple has a two-year-old and the wife is pregnant. And Diana was in here lifting and we were like hot swapping. I was like grabbing his of Bella had finished coaching and was going to leave. Diana was going to lift. That couple was here. Adam's talking about Tustin Chili cookoff. And the husband. been a wife of that family was like, are you guys going to go tomorrow?

I'm like, well, we're going to church in the morning and there's like nap time, but yeah, we're going to try to go. They're like, well, we're going to try and go too. So anyway, we all went and we go. When church, 9 and 10, 30, left there, Tulsa, Chili Cookoff started 11. Adam hooked it up with a parking spot at his apartment, got there, saw Adam actually. He's like, my wife only has a short amount of time. We're actually going to like walk really fast.

I can tell you have a pregnant wife and a baby and are going to walk slow. So we're going to like book it over there, but we'll see you over there. I'm like, sounds good. Go to test a chili cookoff. Dude, it was huge. Was it really?

So I guess, I think he said this on the pod that it's now have looked it up. Single largest, it's the largest single day chili cookoff in America. It's the third largest chili cookoff in America. But a lot, but it's some of the, the ones that are bigger are multi-day. But it was bananas.

And we got there, and I have some critiques for the city of Tustin, like make it clear where to buy the tickets for the chili, you know, I need some signage going on. I'm a Marine. I need you to break it down. So we get in there. So good after action. Yeah, we got the baby in the stroller and there's a balloon from a church. And they're like, oh, your baby's a.

adorable. I'm like, thanks. She went on Jesus loves you balloon, of course. They give us a balloon. What kind of chili you got? They're like, oh, we got green, whatever, chili. I'm like, yeah, I want to try. They're like, where's your ticket? I'm like, ticket. They're like, yeah, you got to go buy tickets. I'm like, oh, sorry, pregnant wife, kid. Can I just

like give you money? Not how this works. I'm like, okay. So I'm like walking down the street, trying to find the ticket place. I'm passing all these chilies that I want to try. Steve Jordan had that in post. Man. If you're not watching YouTube, you don't get it.

The lights in the gym want to be off. Anyway, I finally find the ticket booth, get to the ticket booth, buy the tickets. And then, so we have a baby. Now it's nap time. And so Diana's like, got to keep the stroller moving to get the baby to sleep. And then our friends come from the gym. And then Adam's there with his wife. And they're like, let's stay in this line.

Adam and his wife who don't have kids. I'm like, I can't really stand in that line. I got to keep the stroller moving. So we ended up being we only tried the chilies that had the shortest lines. The worst ones probably. They were terrible. They were terrible. And there were some lines where it was like, dude, four city blocks.

Like, but because there's multiple toddlers. There's two pregnant women. Like there's just like no one's going to like just stand in the middle of the street. right that just doesn't work. Inefficient way to. Yeah, so we tried the worst chilies. We did have two that were pretty good. But yeah, it was cool.

Adam was a great shout out. He was writing the muffin tin thing. He said bring a muffin tin, remember? That made sense once I got there. There was a lot of people that had muffin tins with like a rope around their neck. And I think it should have been a hose personally. I think a good product for us, Trey, would be a, hose that comes around and it hooks into a muffin tin and then there's six hoses at hose cups.

And so it's just the whole system is just hoses and you eat your chili from a hose. But yeah, no, it was fun. It was a great event. If you live in Southern California, as we see in the Marine Corps, I'd say it's to sustain. It was fun. And it was fun having my daughter there. but it's definitely lines and children

generally aren't a good recipe. You see, I bet I could find some good chili hose in this. Yeah, chili hose hose, man. Hose Cup. Hose cup. We're working on it. Currie Tech Tubman.

Yeah, it sounds fun, man. You can't go wrong on a chili cookoff. So I'm surprised when you guys, oh, it's huge. I'm like, like, how big could it be? But it sounds like it was. So in Greenville, South Carolina, there's a thing called Fall for Greenville.

It's all in downtown. They block off the whole. city streets. We live downtown. We live there. And, you know, every other street, there's like a, there's a band, you know, stage and a concert going on. And there's food. I feel like I was, that's when we showed up. I feel like someone was going on. Maybe they were setting it up or I don't know, but it's huge. It's huge. And it's cool. This was, I don't know if it's bigger and I don't care to look. But in terms of what I thought,

I thought like, oh, small little city in California, a little, a little, little, chili kickoff like go to church this was not quaint there was like car shows in the middle of it concerts happening it was uh yeah it was it was a big deal pretty cool oh wow well good shout out all right i've been curious about when you posted ghost michael new orleans ghost tours i've been curious what this is about yeah so i may get outed here but if i get out it we'll end up getting them as a guest in the pod. So I'm in the warehouse, whatever day I post that, it doesn't matter. Phone rings.

And gym phone rings. So we use software for, you know, phones. We have a phone app. And so it's like you can be a Strankgo website with meaning like you're buying plates and stuff. And there's a phone number for that. There's gym phone number. Jim phone number rings.

And the guys like, hey, I'm looking for online coaching. I said, oh, great. You know, like, tell me your background, blah, blah, guys 50. And he's telling me, yeah, I'm familiar with starting strength and run the program before. I just want to know how my form is, you know, blah, blah, blah. I said, well, I see, you know, there's a lot of ways I could, I said, where are you located?

And he goes, no, he doesn't say nuance. He says, Louisiana. And immediately I started thinking about the Cajun Sergeant Major, like literally. My brain, like, just immediately went to the Cajun. sergeant major. And that's how I knew we needed a yellow sergeant major and at PCS that second one. Yeah. And I said, okay. I said, he said, why do you ask? I said, well, as a starting strength coach and it's just a coach of people, whenever I can put you in front of someone that I believe is solid, I always think that's 100x better than online. I was like, we provide a really

good service online, but I, a good coach can fix in like an hour what would take me a week online in multiple sessions. And I was like, so is that somewhere you were to know if there's someone I could refer you to that's not me? And he's like, well, wow, I figured you just want to take my money. And I was like, well, I do want to take your money. I was like, but I want you to get strong. And like, that's my going in argument. I said, so here's my deal. Because he wanted to do like video uploads. I said, the best thing we can do is a console over Zoom where you lift in real time. I said, you go in to do your workout.

I'm on Zoom. You're on Zoom. You got a tripod with your camera on it. And I watch you lift. And in between sets and during warmups, I'm going to be teaching you a bunch of stuff, talking to you, collecting data. And it's a $200 console that I provided my website. He said, oh, that sounds great.

And I said, yeah. I said it just kind of makes the most sense. I said, then I just kind of shoot people straight. Like, you know, do you, I said, sometimes I'll watch people and I'll say, hey, man, like, we got to do one-on-ones. You're terrible at this. I said, and sometimes I watch people and I say, you need some help. You need a lot of program advice.

You should do our online remote coaching where we upload videos and provide feedback and do your programming. I said, and sometimes I go, and this is most of the time, like, hey, brother, are you doing great? You just need like some validation once in a while. Just join our Slack channel for 29 bucks a month. Post your squats and your deadless in the form checks. Get feedback from five different starting strength coaches.

When you got a programming question, when you miss a lift, you know, posted in there, we'll tell you what to do. And I said, kind of most of the people, I end up just like sending the cheapest option because if they're self-taught and they've read the book and they've done anything, that's the way to go. And I said, but for anyone, whether I push them to the higher service of, you know, video review and that sort of thing or this $29 option, I always recommend we do one live in person. I was like, because then we can watch bar speed,

make sure. I said, I've found people that have leg length discrepancies that they had no idea that they've had, right? And they can't figure out their hip pain. They've gone to five coaches. And it's like, brother, your left leg is two inches shorter than you're right. You know, when you shim your shoe or whatever the case is. And he goes, oh, that's great. I'm, I'm, getting to the ghost stores. He goes, that's great. And I said, so yeah, I mean, what do he would do? He goes, well, I really want to do the Zoom console. He goes, the problem is I work nights. He's like, I'm in the, what do you call it? He said, he said, I'm in the tourism industry and I work nights. And he's like, so a lot of times I go to work at like 8, 9 p.m. and I work to like 3 a.m. He goes,

and sometimes I'll just like lift right after that. He goes, so I don't think we're ever going to be able to like make it work. And I just go, do you do ghost tours in Louisiana and New Orleans? And he goes, how did you know that? And I was like, I don't know. You said you live in Louisiana. He said you were in. You laid it out pretty quick.

And so I said, well, why don't you get detective work on your part? I said, why don't you just buy the Slack channel, which, by the way, if you want to join the Slack channel, use code OK, save $10. So why you just buy the Slack channel? So it sounds like you already film your videos. Upload a bunch of videos. What do you have to lose for $30? If you find it worthless, just quit. If you like it, we'll help you out.

And he goes, yeah, that's what I'm going to do. That's what I'm going to do. So he's a Slack member now. Let's guys, it's like a member now. And he goes, oh, dude, thanks. He goes, you're like the YouTube grant. I said, well, yeah, I'd just like the thing of myself as Grant. but yeah, I'm also YouTube grant.

He said, that's awesome. I said, hey, have you ever done a podcast? And he goes, no, everyone tells me I should run a podcast. I'm just trying to think of the angle. I said, well, have you ever been on one? And he said, no. He goes, I mean, I know what they are. I'm 50.

I'm not like old. I said, no, no, no, I'm not sold. I said, I run a podcast. He's like, your YouTube channel. I said, no, no, no, like on top of that, I have a podcast. And we really have an infatuation with New Orleans. and I would love to have you on as a guest. That would be by far probably my favorite guest.

And he goes, oh, okay. And I said, you're already halfway there. You just say, okay. I said, look, I'm going to send you the website. One or two things is going to happen. You're either going to listen to a couple episodes and write me back and say, I want to be a guest, or you're going to quit the Slack channel. And I'm never going to hear for you again.

And so he's still a Slack member. He has not told me he wants to come on, but I'm going to, I'm going to fix his squad up a little bit. And then I want to talk about New Orleans ghost stories. I might honestly, if meet them, if we have on the podcast and I hit it off with him, me and him might just go start our own ghost tour podcast. Yeah. That sounds super interesting.

You've been doing it a long time. He's a pro. Oh, dude. That's so awesome. Yeah. Should you bring this thing down for landing? Let's do it, man. I mean, we went two hours without Jeff.

That's, you know, we're just like the Israel lights lost in the desert, man. I'm just wondering. It's not working. Yeah. If you wonder what all that is, it's the lights in the gym. All right. And I think I just tore my rotator cuff. All right.

You ready? Yeah, let's do it. Episode 0.1. Oh, yeah. Technically, because you're waiting on 1,000. I'm waiting on a thousand. 0113 of the. Oh, tree, bingo.

Sorry, Trayin. 113 of the. Okay. Not the same without Jeff, but still pretty good. Yeah, we could have done it together right there. We could have. Should we do it again? Of 0.1.3 of the.

Okay. Okay. That was that. Yeah. It's not saying that. that Jeff. Okay, podcast, as I always like to thank our sponsors, Mr. BW. Tax, good guy better at taxes.

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