The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 12: Cumbia, Mike Tyson, Coaching Tips & The NCAA feat. Matios Berhe

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 02:46 - YouTube update 05:11 - Jordy’s Fiancé Started Lifting 06:06 - Programming After The NLP 13:29 - Jeff and Tres Join 15:48 - Jordy’s Bodyweight Sucks 17:57 - Tips For Coaching Friends 28:20 - Daylights Savings Time 32:30 - Matios Introduction  41:16 - Flooding The Vila Park Bathroom 43:38 - Can You Teach An Old Dog New Tricks? 44:47 - The State Of Psychology 49:44 - Men’s Final Four Prediction 51:45 - Best Latin Music 55:25 - Tyson vs Jake Paul 01:00:28 - Jordy’s Old Apartment Gym 01:01:55 - Tre’s Music Background 01:03:16 - How Did Jeff Meet Grant? 01:07:54 - Strength Co. Redland Location 01:08:52 - Matios’s BW Tax Ad Read 01:14:47 - NCAA Tournament 01:22:37 - SEC Football vs SEC Baseball 01:24:52 - Final Episode of Dynasty 01:29:01 - Fly Fishing Update 01:31:46 - Tres Signs Us Off

All right. Welcome back to episode 012 of the OK podcast. I'm your host, Grant Brogy, and I am here quasi in studio in the upstate of South Carolina with PJ, a little slight change of plans. Hasn't been drinking enough milk, a little bit under the weather. So he's a couple blocks down the road, but the show must go on as they say. Today is March 19th, March, not the 19th, March 19th in the year of our Lord 2024. And it has now been 12 weeks. That's three months that we have come into your ears, bringing you lifting goodness, Bitcoin greatness, and lots of other things. But once you start doing stuff, you got to keep the habit going. What's the price of Bitcoin and what's the block height, PJ?

All right. Current price of Bitcoin, $62, bitcoin 62 902 oh we're tanking oh it's over dude it's over down down big um and the block height is 835 450 so don't worry about it still way up this year it's gonna be fun yeah i have a feeling it's it's gonna be okay okay okay yeah okay you just got to keep huddling that's the rule that's the mentality if you wait it's it's like real estate just zoom out and zoom out and everything goes up it's like lifting just zoom out right i'm not i'm not wrong the difference is with bitcoin you just have to buy it once and do nothing with lifting you have to keep working hard and then zoom out right right. Right. I mean, this is like today, this is like one bad workout. That doesn't mean anything. You see, you could still get stronger this year. It doesn't matter. Exactly. I mean, we're already so much stronger than we've ever been.

Yeah. All time. Yeah. So you're not feeling so good, huh? No, I, I'm not woke up with a fever this morning nothing too bad i got about a 99.7 degree fever body aches and some flu-like symptoms but i'm drinking a little smoothie right now uh oh nice we can move back to life homemade or you went somewhere and picked that up uh homemade so that's even better and uh yeah i think i'll be all right so what's the body weight at oh i didn't even check i bet i'm down yeah down because yeah probably like we'll talk about that probably like 181 or something like that so if you get into the 170s i'm gonna start worrying about you yeah yeah i probably i don't know if i'd make it if i was in

the 170s yeah that might be the end of the end but um yeah well good we're glad you're here even though you're over there but you're kind of here uh let's try this week uh have we released anything that cool i mean the power clean things power clean the power clean video did a bunch of arnold videos i think we've i think we've ridden the arnold videos i don't know there's anything else to talk about yeah we um we released the the different vlogs we have the deadlift party which i thought was fun to watch and and uh i mean obviously the b out was very fun but i think that was a lot of fun that video um see steve bake just rip 850 off the ground like it's a sack of potatoes a farmer he grows corn he picks his corn it's steve

the baker what's he got cooking in the oven he's baking up some cookies now baking up some cookies yeah that was good the arnold videos a lot of traction a lot of comments not a lot of views uh maybe it's an algorithm thing maybe it's a naming thing um yeah but so we did that uh we released some clips from this podcast um i feel like i did at least one video where i just like got on and maybe that was the power clean video that was the power clean video yeah power clean video uh which was interesting fun comments there the bench press video is still popping off everyone still likes to talk about the bench press um you know thinking bench 315 uh thanks for everyone that's been listening to the podcast uh we have seen an uptick in listens each week we appreciate that and some of you have even gone on and left a five-story view so keep those coming uh go comment on the podcast like it uh do you

you subscribe do you follow podcast there's a button i think you can follow yeah here on the podcast app or subscribe on youtube yeah there's a button where you can click stuff so go click that stuff and we'll keep them coming uh today's going to be a fun show. We got the guys coming on here in just a few minutes. We're starting a couple minutes late. And then we got a guest tonight, special guest, Matios Perre. If you're an ex-follower, if you follow me on X, you've probably seen him. I interacted with him there a lot, but I'll save most of that for when he gets here. Any main things you want to hit before I just go on one quick little rant, Jordy? I'll say one thing. Got my fiance to do her first starting strength workout this week. She started strength. She started strength.

That's where it starts. I was going to the gym on Monday and I said, hey, wouldn't it be fun if you went along with me? And she's a good sport and went with me. So she's committed to at least a three month novice linear progression. See if it turns into a six month. And I said, you know what? I'll take it. Is she doing go mad? Oh yeah. Everyone, everyone in this household is doing everyone needs to do go, man. That's right. That's good. A new lifter. Uh, but as we know, a lifter is not born when they start lifting a lifters born when they're staring at the bar and wondering if they should yet again, add more weight. But, uh, that's exciting. Good, good for you when you're in there, when you're going in, uh, the night before, when you're

trying to fall asleep the night before, and you can't sleep because you're thinking about your squats tomorrow, just thinking about the squats. Um, squats um well that's that's actually kind of ties into what i talked about a little bit today because i you know the starting strength novice linear progression the greatest thing about it is how simple it is the program is simple um the instructions are simple i mean a lot of people at first find the execution of the lifts difficult. And then when they do it for a while, they realize, oh, the execution of the lifts is not the most difficult thing in terms of form and technique. It's not rocket science. It's nothing that crazy. What becomes difficult is the programming aspect further down the line.

So at first, you have no idea how to squat. You learn to squat. You add a bunch of weight to the squat and then you get stuck. And that's the thing that I think people miss a lot of times or that they don't quite understand is I get lifters all the time. It's great for my business. So thank you. Keep getting stuck and hiring me to coach you. But I think that people get so ingrained into three sets of five, adding five pounds to the bar that they forget about the process or they even start to hate any type of progress. And the example I'll give is new lifters. There are newish lifters, people that have kind of pushed this hard. And when they get to the point where they don't get five five five on the squat more specifically you know the press or the bench press and they say i am stuck and when i talk to these people about this and say well tell me what happened and hey well i squatted 285 for three sets of five and then i went to 290 and i got 544. So it's over. And I always remind them, you just squatted five more

pounds than you've ever squatted. And you did it for a total of 13 reps, which is pretty great. You should have just hit a set of two at the end. You would have gotten 15 total reps of this new weight. And you have proof that you have gotten stronger because you put more weight on the bar. Now people could complain about that philosophy. They could say, well, did they get stronger as squatting 285 for three sets of five, not stronger than 294, 5442 or whatever. But that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is if you produce more force, then you did something that you have never done. And I think that in the press, in the bench press,

particularly, people get quote unquote stuck. And so they do 5-3-3. They retry it. Usually when they retry it, it's even worse. They get 4-3-3 and they just back down 20% and they run back towards the same wall. But what I tell people, I told a guy today, guy joined us from Minnesota. I'd coached him and he's in our Slack channel now, which you can join. We've got five starting strength coaches in their community of over 200 lifters. It's $29 a month from the strength co. And you can, you know, drop in a form check. You're not getting the kind of coaching that you're going to get from a, you know, in-depth personal one-on-one like the gentleman today did, but you'll get some feedback. But in any event, what I told that man was I said, Hey, you know, you're not stuck. It's still going

up. Uh, you know, you're not really stuck until you go up two and a half pounds and you get zero. Um, and then you may not even be stuck. You're just, you know, you need to change the program. But if you can add weight and do something, it's good and it's great. And, you know, don't, don't get locked into this. Starting strength is exactly what the two words say. It's when you're starting strength. And when, if you're getting to the point where you're missing reps on the squat, missing reps on the press, missing reps on the bench, the deadlift, congratulations, because that means you've actually been training, you've actually been working hard, and you've actually been doing things that get to

the point where you've reached your limits. Then you have to ask yourself the first three questions. Am I sleeping enough? Am I eating enough? Am I resting enough between sets? All those things come into play. But if you get to the point where you're missing reps, that is not a bad thing. I'd argue that it's a good thing because most people just put weight on the bar. And when it gets relatively hard, they just do the same weight over and over. Or they back down and they send in videos and they say, oh, this is so hard. And I watch it and I go, you could literally put 50 pounds in the bar right now. So do your three

sets of five, add weight to your three sets of five. But when that stops, keep adding weight to the bar at first. You won't do that forever, but keep adding weight to the bar, collect reps at new weights that you've never lifted and be happy that you are making progress, even if you're not making progress as three sets of five. And remember for sets of three and sets of two and even singles, as you're running this thing out, when you, as you get stronger, the lower reps are okay. We don't have you do one, two, and three reps when you start because you're weak and you're not moving much load. You're not moving much weight. And so it wouldn't do much for you to do it. So five's a good number where there's actually enough reps happening where you can accumulate some volume, but not so many that you're in a

cardio land. But now that you've gotten your numbers up and you're running these issues, hey, hitting a weight you've never hit for three sets of three. That's fantastic. So don't beat yourself up. You've started strength and now you're in the lovely world of a late novice, early intermediate, and that's a good place to be. Most people never get there. Most people never get there. They just stop. They just stop. Well, this is exactly why I hired you. So that's right. And look at you now, you're going to bench three 15. As soon as you hit 200 pounds, I mean, Jen Thompson said it. I mean, she did. I tried to do some static holds, hit 200 pounds,

static holds, 200 pounds, three 15. Yeah. The day I hit 200 pounds, I'm going to go try it. I bet it'll go. So your health kind of follows Bitcoin. Everything's going up. And then when you get sick, there's a little drop. So I will say my, uh, the quality of my life has been directly correlated, correlated to the price of Bitcoin for like three years. So that's three, four years. That's interesting. But we just need to get you some Ivermectin and, uh, get this thing back on track. Yeah, exactly. Does Liver King sell those? Yeah. Liver King, by the way, if anyone has Liver King's address, send it to me.

Jordy, maybe you can get it. I noticed that he was at the UFC fight, and I'll make this quick because the guys are here ready to get in. He was at the UFC fight, and he was wearing a shirt. Yeah. And that's why I was surprised. And I kind of loved it because I'm like, oh,

Dana White's the real alpha here. Cause he was like, you're not coming into my event with no shirt. That conversation must've happened. Cause he never wears a shirt. No, but he was wearing a shirt and he's wearing a company that, um, sounds like Vogue rhymes with Vogue that we won't name. And I'm like, why are you wearing this T-shirt, dude? Just call me. I'll send you an American-made T-shirt. It says the Strength Co.

I'll send you an updated plate. So if anyone's got the Liver King's number, I got a care package that I'm ready to send. Yeah, send them some weight and some T-shirts. That'd be fun. That's right. All right, let me let these guys in here. Yeah. Send him some weight and some t-shirts. That's right. All right. Let me let these guys in here.

All right. Part two of episode 012 of the Podcast. And we got everyone on the line here. Mr. Jeff, I should say Biggie once in a while, because I always say Bougie, but it's pronounced Biggie B. E. G. E. Joining us from wonderful Utah. We'll get a weather report from him soon. We got Mr. Trace, but it's actually pronounced tray. It's just spelled T. R. E. S. Trace, like trace. Noros illness spelled wrong. Correct. Yeah, Trey, Trey, got let's Robert got the third A. M. Grad wrong. Correct. Yeah. Trey Gottlich, Robert Gottlich, the third A&M grad. A&M grads always have to let you know they're A&M grads. So it's my job to let you know he's an A&M grad. He's in Oklahoma City today. The city of Oklahoma.

Yes. And PJ needs no introduction. Sick at his house with the immune system of Freddie Mercury. And that's where we are. We are not the champions. Yeah. But we will rock you. Boom.

Yep, that's it. So, exciting show. We didn't talk about much. We started a little late. I had to set this whole place up myself. But, yeah, we got a guest today who you guys don't know much about but i did tweet i did tweet it or exit or thread it or read it or whatever but you guys know that someone's coming on he should be on about uh maybe 15 minutes from now so i'm thinking um we got a lot of sports to cover. I'm thinking we, we maybe cover that post guest. So, uh,

yeah, Jeff and the, and the sake of the slideshow, um, I love our production meetings on, on the fly. That's I love how we do that. Well,

I mean, we do do a lot of, we do do a lot of adjustments. We do a lot of prep that doesn't get executed and then we just execute it's kind of like the marine corps yeah fair enough exactly like hey we're gonna do all this planning it's it's game day and i do the opposite should we stick to the plan no no no why would we do that definitely not that what definitely not that uh so jeff what's what's item number one on the agenda i mean i think we got to just kind of stick with our our typical lead-off topics uh

broke enough enough time uh so if jordy i mean is the sickness how's the body weight they just didn't even know you don't want to talk about it just skip me on this one next slide it's not going to be back down 130 pounds if i hit 179 i'll probably get taken out it'll just be over for me so my frail body wouldn't be able to handle it well since he's down with the sickness and we're talking about music i will say diane and i got something to eat i was packing a lot today i'm headed out for, for drill weekend as I'm sure, uh, Jeff is. And so we ran out to get some food and we were coming back and like, I'd heard a song in the restaurant and you know, me, I like to like hear songs, sing the melody and then change the words because I don't know the words. And I was like,

first they ate dinner, then they got married and I like kept singing words. And I was like, first they ate dinner, then they got married. And I kept singing it. And Diana was like, I literally have no idea what song you're even trying to do. And... Shabba-da-da, shabba-da-sobby. Yeah. Yeah. 169.

Ba-da-ba-da-da-da. Ba-da-da-da-da-da. Okay, so what song is that? okay so what song is that it's i'm cheating now on the front lawn sprinklers turn on no just make that up that's first you get hurt then you feel sorry no one knows this one i i know the song like i've heard it i couldn't tell you sings it it's cold war kids first cold war kids this cold war kids yeah cold kids yeah anyway totally irrelevant i'm sorry next slide

hey i've seen them live good concert really it was like way way back in the day i mean that still counts yeah yeah the civil war still happened they were cold war babies like yeah babies yeah cold war kids you want to dive into your uh lifting question oh yeah do we have time to get into that now yeah we got time we can we can leave guests in waiting rooms okay fair enough yeah so lifting question of the week right if you got first of all amateur lifting update yeah amateur lifting update uh let me see pulling heavy tomorrow on deadlift going for 460 did Oh, so you're back. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're like all the way back. Trying to. Yeah, I did 390 yesterday. Three sets of five for squat. Bench. I think I was at 285 yesterday. Okay. Nice.

Press. I can't remember what I am at press. But question that. First of all, we're still sponsored by BW Tax, right? press I can't remember what I'm going to press but question that first of all we're still sponsored by BWTax right I'm glad you brought that up Jordy is there a button I can hit over here yeah you have to turn up the slider

next to I think slider 7 and hit the first sound pad the upper left 7 and then upper left it's lit up light blue yeah all right here we go attention orders try a different slider that's what i love uh what i've always loved bw taxes uh you know you could be someone like me i have a w-2 job still um you know got to support the wife the kids there you go you know, there's child tax credits.

You know, the government has really created a wild maze that is income tax and loopholes and all that. And that's what the folks at BW Tax, that's their bread and butter. I mean, that's what they're known for and what they've come to be so excellent at. And that's why you could talk to them remotely. Even if you're from some place in the sticks like western northeast South Dakota, you can still talk to a warm body at BWTax. It's not a bot. It's not a chat GPT service.

It's real people there providing a real service. And that's what I love about them at bwtax.com bwtaxllc.com bwtaxllc.com That's what I like about them. Now I turn the sliders down. Yeah, then you're good.

The warmest of bodies. Yeah, BWTax. Yeah, that's what they do. So, amateur lifting question you ready so it's like i said i tax questions go to bw if i got a question about lifting go to grant there we go do that every week so i've come to find myself i've coached i've started coaching or coaching i use that term quotation marks helping, helping Abby out as she's kind of started getting to lifting, right? We had one of our strength co slackers, as I call them. He came over to the dojo and we kind of gave him some pointers on that. So I don't know. I've kind of found myself kind

of giving tips every now and then, kind of helping friends out, maybe giving pointers on what to do, every now and then, kind of helping friends out, maybe giving pointers on what to do, what not to do. I don't know. What's trying to be a better coach? What are some kind of tips? Do you have any things, do's and don'ts kind of thing to maybe stay away from or lean into kind of thing? You want me to give away the company trade secrets? It's just grants, trade secrets. Yeah, it's just grants, trade secrets. Well, I think Jeff will have probably maybe just as much to say about this yeah yeah what i often tell people i would say two things like forget the minutiae of

form and you know this way low bar squat versus that i think like two um important things one for you if you're not a coach but like you've been lifting and you've been studying and you've worked with a coach and you've like read a book, like how to do something. I always tell people, Hey, remember whoever you're helping is way better off with you than without you. And that sounds like so basic, but it's so true. Right? So Abby walks into that gym and you're like, Hey, here's the book starting strength.

You know, go do three sets of five on the squat, read this, that versus you walking out with your knowledge of like, you know, me coaching you 10 years ago. And you know, the little bit you've picked up over the years, you being able to, Oh no, I think you're supposed to put your thumb on top of the bar. Like, no, no, widen your stance. They're always way better with someone that's lifting than they are without someone uh and the second part i think is really if it depends you know on the person if they are you want them to leave feeling encouraged and that's not like my sales hat on that's like keep people lifting hat on like you want to like yes you're having to fix things if they're squatting high you have to find a way to talk to them to get them to depth but you have to be careful to not just be like constantly

everything being i don't say negative but just you know ripping everything apart because you want the person to leave thinking like hey i learned something and i'm better off than i was and i those are the two things that i think are kind of like the, um, the skills you can't teach. Cause the first one produces confidence. If you actually think, Hey, whatever I say to this person is better for them, then you'll be more confident in what you're saying, which will go better. And then two, if you say something to them and they're leaving like encouraged and liking the experience that they have, then they'll come back. And if they keep going back, then they'll obviously get better. Those are kind of the two. What are you,

Jeff, you've got years of CrossFit coaching. Yeah. And I think that's all like really like spot on kind of insight there. And then once you kind of get into like, or like you find with people that are, you know, early on to coaching or just don't have a ton of like experience under their belt is like, they'll want to correct everything they see. And it's kind of like,

just break it down to like one or two things that you think you're gonna get the most like bang for your buck out of. Like if it's the person squatting high, like Grant said, like, all right, try to see what cue gets them to depth. And then like, let them know like, yep, you're hit.

Like that one looked good. Like that one looked good. And then maybe move on to like the next kind of most like glaring fault and not just be like, well, okay, on this next rep, think about hitting depth, but also like driving knees out and keeping like pressure in your belly and like giving them 10 different things to think about and they're like i don't have any idea what's happening and that's yeah very like just overwhelmed with like views and corrections so i think the first time i was like coaching abby like she did the first one that like gave her like 10 different things to fix yeah and then like this second set look like twice as bad as that first one yeah the general rule of thumb i would always say when coaches are coming to the gym would be like say less like like of all the things that are going because they're seeing you know if

someone's like studying a model whether it's crossfit or starting strength or whatever it is and they're seeing 10 things and they're trying to like fix all of them. It's like, Hey, just stop for a second and think about like, what's the one thing that they can fix right now? Um, yes, say less, but I think the, like all that, but I think the most important part is like your confidence, even if you're just like, you don't even have to view yourself as like a coach. I'm not expiring to be a coach and like make a living off to this, that view yourself as a lifting partner. And like, Hey, I mean, that's why I always tell people when I get like a couple that comes in or two dudes come in and hire me. I'm just like, Hey, you may not know how to fix everything, but you can tell that dude, if he's squatting high, like that's your job is look for hip crease, kneecap and be like, you're high. And then maybe he finishes the

set and goes, why am I high? And you may have no idea you're like well i don't know but we got to figure it out because you're three inches above parallel yeah what's uh hi i've i've like all the are the four different lifts we'll see the four main one which one do you find the most difficult to kind of coach up like squat chip like squat deadlifts you think you think squat yeah i think the squat um actually by a large margin really yeah i mean so if you come in and lift with me for the first time we do an hour session we're gonna squat for about 35 minutes and then we're gonna press and deadlift in the next 25 um now i've been doing this for a while. So like I can teach the deadlift really quickly. I would say when I first started, I thought the deadlift was harder because I didn't like understand how to get people's low back into position. But with

experience, you figure that out. But I think the squat, it was just more going on. Got to write down, you got to bring it back up. If it's the bar positions wrong, a lot of things fall apart. If the hand positioning is wrong, elbow positioning elbow positioning i mean there's just i i think there's just way more going on in the squat hip drive hip drive yeah that's a good amateur lifting question fair enough yeah man it's like i said i've had it seems like i've had a couple people ask me questions here recently i feel like kind of like what Jeff was saying, my biggest problem is I just throw like 10 different things at them at one time. So I think it's just,

that's good advice. Kind of just like find one thing at a time, fix that, then move on to the next one. Yeah. And I think you'll, I think what will be interesting is if you keep having slackers over to your house,

but no, seriously, if you keep helping people, you'll get better as a lifter. I mean, that's how, when I first found the program, starting strength, started running it and started like, you know, then running it with my platoon. I had no like thoughts of like, I want to become a coach. It would be like Nolan Hickey would be like, well, my lacrosse coach told me to stand like this in the squat.

Shut up, Nolan. Yeah, shut up, Nolan. And I'd be like, well, I i'd be like well why why should he do and i would go back to the book or i would read or i would think about it and it causes you to kind of learn um yeah i think i think helping people out's the best and uh yeah that's good that's it next slide man that's it next slide all right uh do we want to dive into something or we want to wait on the guests what do we think well we know we i i think i think you never wait on a gas because you never know if a gas is going to show up yes okay i think this is

when we i would talk but we didn't get to it last time. I don't think. Do we talk about daylight savings time? Oh, no, but don't get me started. This is a great one. Yeah. People have a lot of... In their state, who just says, I'm not doing this. Arizona,

for sure. I think Indiana doesn't. Is that right, Jordy? You would know. It's got to be recent if that's true. I mean, you got the power of the internet in your fingertips. Arizona just goes, nah, I'm good. I don't know. They kind of did that in 2020

too, didn't they? Hey, close everything. Nah, we're good. We'll just stay open. You can do that. I'm not. we're not doing that um okay well i guess i'll get my first hot take unless geordie has the facts there oh just to click back yeah so i was there i was like we definitely had staley's seven time a bill exempting indiana from daylight savings time was introduced to the Indiana General Assembly in 2024.

So maybe it might be coming. Okay. The Strength, or no, the Okay Podcast, powered by The Strength Co., sponsored by BW Tax, bringing you your latest and most current political news. If you have questions about taxes, call BW Tax. If you got questions about lifting, call Grant. And if you want a good time, call Trey. Trey's really laughing at that one. Sounded so dirty.

Yeah. No. So my thought this week that I talked about was 36 years I've dealt with this. Although, when did daylight savings time start? It's been going for a while. As long as I can i think i don't think my whole life but as long as i can remember 1920 19 what 1918 okay as long as it's like agriculture and farming yeah they talked about in uh nicholas cage talked about it national treasure national

treasure so as long as i've been alive i've've been dealing with this. And every year I'm like shocked. Like, whoa, I can't believe it's light out so late. Like, whoa, my sleep pattern changes. And you would think that you would. But every year it's like a brand new experience. Like you just get and it classic situation. Apparently, daylight savings time was a temporary government program. Classic. Classic. Seen that before. Seen that before. A wartime measure for seven months during World War I in interest of adding more daylight hours to conserve energy resources. Temporary.

Temporary. Trey, do you have a thought on it? No. It's kind of like one of those things like, when do you gain an hour fall back, right? The fall is better. Way better. Spring forward, fall back,

right? Yeah. I'm always super happy in the fall. I, way better. Yeah. Spring forward, fall back. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm always like, I'm always super happy in the fall. I'm always kind of upset in the spring, but I don't know, man. I agree.

I agree with you is kind of, but why are we still doing it? You know, like, what's the point now? We all have our mental control. Tell them Jeff. Yeah. They want to keep their thumb under their thumb. Like, what's the point now? We all have governmental control. You tell them, Jeff. Yeah, that's what it is.

They want to keep their thumbs under their thumb. That's what it is. Flat Earth theory. It has to be something to do with that. Conspiracy theorist. Let me tell you this. Whenever we fake that moon landing, that's when we change the time. So that's how that goes.

I also love that the Marine Corps was like, well, that's when we change the time so that's that's how that goes i also love that that marine corps was like well that's when we'll like uh we'll go sleeves up sleeves down with daylight savings time and that's why they change the color of our pants like for our dress uniform but this seems like such a random thing to like tie this to wait so my sleeves up this weekend your sleeves up sleeves up sun's out guns out good sleeve rolls get them real tight all right let's get this guest in here one sec i don't know if we want to talk about flat earth and time zones to start off yeah i say let's just let's just hop straight into it yeah we all right what do you think about flat earth

that's super fire. How can we tell in the first place? You know what I mean? All right. Let's introduce you a little bit. The OK Podcast, episode 012, powered by the Strength Co., brought to you by our friends at BW Tax, which I hope that Matios Perre has done a little research on BW Tax so he can give us an ad read later.

We have one sponsor we're open to more sponsors hit us up at the okay pod at gmail.com if you would like to become a sponsor but let me tell you the list is long and the odds of you getting in is short or small or tiny it's it's flat like the earth we turned out lockheed martin yeah, that's right. We did. Matios Beret. And Matios taught me that rather than knowing a language, the important is knowing how to correctly pronounce a few words. Like for example, tres, tres herraciones. And so Matios is... He speaks Spanish. That's what you think. Or if I say, as my Italian neighbor says,

no, you're saying it wrong. It's Grant Brogy. Brogy. There's no H there. It's Brogy. It's not Brogy. It's Brogy. So a little bit of pronunciation goes a long way.

But Matios joining us from Redlands, California. Matios, we've only had a few guests. I think you're like number six or seven. And the first ones have all been surprises. But then when you went and tagged us on Instagram, you know, I got texts. Who is this guy? So why don't you just answer that question? Who is this guy? Excellent. Just a dad with a big mouth. Honestly, that's my bad coach. I didn't mean to, uh, a dad with a big mouth honestly that's my bad coach i didn't mean to uh you know i i confused because like instagram has a different etiquette than twitter does so that's my bad because i'm

primarily it's x you be x you be you baby twitter never change yeah y'all hurt yeah but why don't you give these guys a little bit of backstory because they have no idea why you're here how you know me uh why don't you get i mean jeff has a little bit of backstory? Because they have no idea why you're here, how you know me. Why don't you get, I mean, Jeff has a little bit of backstory that you guys chatted at the wedding and stuff, but just a little bit of like how you came into be with the Strength Co, the podcast, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah.

I feel that because like who I am, I mean, do any of us know who any of us are really? But I met Coach on Twitter back when it was called Twitter. I mean, do any of us know who any of us are really? But I met Coach on Twitter back when it was called Twitter. Sorry. Facts. Yeah. So back when it was called Twitter, I met Coach on X.

I was on a thread talking about the merits of yoga. Now, look, I still stand by this, dude, because i think hamstring health is is number one if you don't have hamstrings you can't dance kumbaya and that's a problem but i was talking about yoga and then coach asked the question do you even lift and i felt offended you know what i mean like mildly threatened because no but what does that question yeah what does i gotta do with anything dude uh so i responded with that no and then he was like hey send me your credit card information so then i sent it and then he was like all right i'll see you at five o'clock in the morning tomorrow and then i went like he went idiot like an idiot gotcha wait is that exactly how that happened?

That's literally what happened, Jeff. He was like, hey, send me your credit card. This is the guy that just threatened you. You know what I mean? Yeah, and he's like, send me your credit card information. So it started, hey, I like yoga. Do you even lift?

No. Send me your credit card. See at five that's how it just yeah just just like that and then when i was there he was like you're here but i said i was gonna be there you know what i mean yeah like don't people act on what they say you know you got my credit card i gotta be here yeah yeah you know, you got my credit card. I got to be here. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I literally gave him my address cause he needed that too. That was weird. So I was like, all right,

bro. Like, and then it was just coach from that day on. You know what I mean? I don't think I've ever pronounced his first name. I don't even know how to pronounce that. I don't even know what it is. Yeah.

The rest is history. Thanks for joining us, Matios. You've been great addition to the episode. I'm just kidding. I'll see you guys. Always a pleasure coach a pleasure coach yeah um so first of all i've heard you got great hamstrings though so appreciated yeah dude i mean i can dance forever honestly they look like nothing you know but i'm more of functional that's why i'm fat you know i mean like i just

there's no when you say yoga so when you say yoga are you doing hot yoga you're doing regular yoga no i was doing regular yoga i feel personally that hot yoga is cheating because it doesn't do anything really for your hamstrings you know you're just preconditioning yourself to being limber like a bamboo did grant did grant ever tell you his uh yoga joke grant he said coach sorry? Coach, yeah. What do you go? Namaste? Oh, yeah. Namaste. Namaste?

Namago. Namago. You got to be comfortable with the stillness, though, coach. You know that's not me. Absolutely not. Yeah, I'd be be lying i don't do yoga so so but we do want to like uh we're trying to branch out talk about more things than just lifting bitcoin politics and flat earth and uh i don't know i gave these guys a little bit of a bio on you, but it was really just kind of like LMAO, exclamation, exclamation, exclamation.

That part, I learned a lot. Thank you for that transcript. But there was some stuff about occupational health. You work with special needs. Behavioral health. Behavioral health. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Explain it to me for my license sake sir i am not

an occupational therapist uh i i work as a board certified behavior analyst in southern california so i'm i'm with three three or four different clinics um yeah i mean i mean the primary thrust of our job is working with kids with special needs. We're working with kids diagnosed with autism. But our services, we're behavior health, like we function in the same capacity as psychology at times. Some of my colleagues may be mad at that, you know, and maybe even other people from other fields may be upset at that. But that's what the insurance is saying, because those are the codes that we build. You know what I mean? So it's like, we're not trying to make it up. We're just getting authorizations and kind of following through with that. So yeah. So you're saying it overlaps sometimes? Is that what you're saying with psychology? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

There is some overlap. I mean, for us, we approach things similar to the strength co-method. We're all about incremental changes, small adaptations. And we know that over time, that's exactly the kind of stuff that adds up so you know in our work like we care there's a lot of people with big hearts but inspiration doesn't take you far it's just that systematic progression that does not getting caught up in whatever you were doing before thinking to yourself that hey this is the method that works you know it's it's a lot of a lot of give and take there's a lot of trial and a lot of errors but you're always looking to correct those like you want to get rid of those um so yeah i mean similar to the lifting you know what i mean

when when if i know very early just kind of taper off coach is like you're not eating like look at me bro yeah you're not all right right. Fine. You know, it's like, stop that whole. I caught myself. What's the age range you deal with? I mean, we work basically with three to 22, but personally, I'm working with people across the lifespan. Okay. So like once you have a client, you're kind of stuck with them like once a guy gives you his credit card information shows up at 5 a.m and then comes into the gym turns the shower on goes to get his clothes has a shower head facing the pilates studio floods the pilates studio and ruins an entire wall and shatters the drywall once that happens i feel like there's a

story here they're a client for life no that seems random yes he's right i just made it up i just i just made that up yeah that was a super file freestyle honestly always coach like dang you just be spitting so we had this uh we had this bathroom in the villa park gym rip and uh the villa gym, I wanted a bathroom because the first one didn't have one. And there was like a room that shouldn't be a shower, but I found a contractor. He's like, I can make it a shower. You put getting permits. I was like, I'm definitely not getting permits. I can say this all now because the company's closed. So we built a shower and it's like a half wall, you know, plastic frame corner shower with a round curtain.

And so the thing was like point the showerhead all the way to the right. So it hits the wall, make sure the shower curtain is inside the tub. And no one really used it besides coaches. But occasionally it was a selling point when you'd get an excuse, like a classic Matheus Perret who would say, coach, I'd be here Monday, Wednesday, Friday, except I got to be at work in Ontario by 830. And I can't get back home and shower and change. And so it's always fun when people say things like that. Cause then you just immediately take away the excuse. And I go, oh, we actually have a shower here, but I didn't see it. I'm like, well, it's a private shower. It's my shower,

but you're welcome to use it. And he's like, bet. So he comes the next day and he comes for a while and he used it a few times with no issue. And then the Pilates studio was next door who hated us. Hated us. The landlord was on my side. We soundproofed. We did quiet rock. We did everything.

They did nothing. But they would be like, they're over there trying to achieve Zen. And we're over here trying to achieve freedom. Like, yeah. I mean, boom, boom. And so Matios goes on in that hot water. I mean, it must have taken 15 minutes to get hot. So he had figured that out. So he just turns it on hot and he goes to get his stuff.

And then classic Matios fashion gets in a conversation and then goes in there and showers and thinks nothing and then turns it off. It's like seven in the morning. I do nothing and then turns it off it's like seven in the morning i do a couple one-on-ones like i'm leaving and the pilates manager's like we're flooded next door and i'm like and i'm like oh really we're not having a water leak here is there like is there a main line issue you think and uh and then i opened up the bathroom i was like oh i understand why they're flooded now. Yeah. They should have had better walls. That's on them, man.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Stop the spread. Less Zen, more walls. Two weeks. That's right. Higher walls.

What do you think about the phrase? Can you teach an old dog new tricks? I, I buy in. I i mean so you can so you can teach them new tricks what you're saying look i i've never even really been around dogs personally that's fair yes but like but like older older people you know like yeah i think i think 70 year olds could learn how to use computers and deadlift i think okay i think he was talking about in line with your line of work yeah just no i was this was just about dogs old dogs yeah no i imagine like if you got a dog you

just what its favorite treats because like dogs like treats right or like yeah yeah they like yeah yeah so i would just do that it's like get it into a position i like all right here's a piece of meat and then when it's sitting down for no reason hey here's a piece of meat and then it's sitting down again for no reason randomly here's a piece of meat and if it comes up to me i just won't give it anything we're talking about dogs now man now we are talking about yeah i mean could work for somebody on carnivore diet. Yeah, that's true. Fair enough. Hilarious. So would you say that you're a behavioral psychologist or you just use the tools of

behavioral psychology? Thank you for that question, sir. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I use the tools. You know what I mean? I'm licensed. I don't identify with most of the underlying philosophy. I think it's utter madness.

So my follow-up question was, if you do that, what's your general take on the state of psychology in general today? Because on one hand, things like behavioral psychology, it seems like there's a lot of things that's real about that.

But on the other hand, something like 50% of academic papers in psychology don't reproduce. So you have a problem there too. Yeah, Georgie. Heck, did you just Google that question? No, I just learned. Did you just eat it right there?

There you go, dude. I knew he'd like it. I knew he'd like it. He has no idea what he just opened up. Oh man, I love it. No, I think this raises a beautiful question because we're looking at science as a method. Whenever we're looking at science as a method. Like whenever we're talking about knowledge as is, or what are facts, we don't just mean things that everyone can see. Like we have prescribed ways of figuring this thing out. Our society is built around it. And as Americans, man, this comes from America. People underestimate the influence of these guys called the American pragmatists. All that is thanks to Dewey,

Peirce and William James. You're welcome. Everybody, everywhere. But also to your point, like the whole point of science is to approach knowledge. So everyone should be coming in with the general feel that I'm approximating the truth.

I don't have the whole thing. And that's the point of replication and rerunning experiments and giving people, hey, here's how I ran what I ran. And here's how I found the conclusions that I did. You don't just trust the science? You know, I think that that is also a great question. I trust the methods. I trust God, Jordy. Amen. That's where I'm at. We're leading with the methods. I trust God, Jordy. Amen. That's where I'm at. We're leading with the heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Methods, though, are dope. So there's a method to the madness. I mean, absolutely. There's some philosophers of science who think that madness is actually the way. They'll call it scientific anarchism. And because they're saying, like, we don't need a systematic way of coming up with the test. If I have a thought, I should be able to test it. And who cares where I got it from? If we test it and it holds true, that's replication. So then there are other questions we should be asking. There's more we should be looking into the thing. So yeah, so to your point, Jordi, whenever there's science that does fail,

I think we should come with the understanding that that is going to happen. Now, what I don't appreciate is how people do the kind of sleight of hand thing where they're talking to you in universals. They're telling you, hey, this is the case. It blows up in their face and they're like, ah, well, we did the best we could given that like no you didn't that's coercion just speaking generally randomly you know jordy you got to be careful handing this guy chat gpt questions so matios now that everyone's logged off and is no longer listening we want to we want to kind of we want to bring we want to bring the fam that's still here and so like there's a couple things i want to kick it over to jeff to ask you like a sports question because we like to talk about sports but first

do you know like can you give us your own rendition or take of the name of this podcast okay oh that's pretty good that's pretty good that's pretty good that's really good that might be the best one yet. Like first try. That was good. You saw the one. You didn't see the thousand before. That's right. That's right.

He took today off work. He's been saying that in the mirror. Repetition, right? Repetition. We didn't mention the date, right? We didn't say the date because I definitely called in sick. Yeah, but we said the block height, so you're screwed because the big one is going to find out. All right.

No one knows what it means. Yeah, it's okay. So we're going to round rob a little bit. Jeff will ask you something about sports. Trey will ask you something about music. And Jordy will ask you something about lifting. And Jordy, don't use chat GPT again or we'll never be able to turn Mato's off so just you know just like a normal question uh but uh so we'll kick it over to jeff first that's

a good question that was a great question that was a great question i was like i'll bring you down i'll bring you up baby yeah i think i have to watch star wars to understand his answer though hey that's a good film man i don't care what the haters gotta say anyway haters being grant yeah subject no way coach i'm not a hater i've just never seen it oh my bad don't let him spoil you uh yeah he's a hater i'm so don't shatter my image all right jeff all right yeah sports question so it's coming up this weekend we're going to Don't shatter my image, guys. All right, Jeff. All right, yeah. Sports question.

So it's coming up this weekend. We're going to kick off the men's NCAA college basketball tournament. You following it at all? You got a final four prediction? Who do you think is going to win it all? Man, that is super fire. I think we're just going to have to keep it on the West Coast, UCLA, all the way. They're not in.

No, baby. but you know who is long beach state i'll be see baby look respectfully that's cool that's cool so you want to you want to know something interesting my bad yes you want to understand long beach state uh used to have a football team no longer does used to have a mascot no longer does do you know who the last mascot the human being inside the long beach state mascot was you know this person no i don't think any i don't think maybe jeff knows who this is but the last have i met him you've met him everyone here has met him i think here has met him. I think I know who it is. Bayon?

Not Bayon, but that's an interesting take. I was about to fade. He's white. He has mascot energy, if that's what I'm thinking of. He has mascot energy. Kashonk? Sorry. No.

Is he a coach? It's no one from Twitter. He's a coach. Oh, I know exactly who it is. Is his last name a King? His last name is King. Is it Coach King? It's Coach King, SSE.

I forget that you only deal in X. Yeah, Connor King was the last mascot of Long Beach State. He has mascot energy. I see that 100%. He does i like brilliant soul so you're rooting for long beach state all day yeah you knew that from day one i've always been about long beach state always yeah always since forever he's down with lbc baby all right we're gonna try try kick us over to some music. We're doing some music stuff. So you mentioned Cumbias earlier, right?

So let's say Cumbias. Cumbias. That was perfect, right? Thank you. That was perfect. So with confidence. So if I'm a, let's say I'm just like a guy off the street and I want to get in some latino music what are some

give me some like hey these are the heavy hitters that you gotta put on a playlist and listen to oh man man brilliant question sonora santanera is a band i don't even know where in mexico they're from honestly speaking um Guerrero. Are they? I just say that because I don't know how to pronounce it. I don't know. It sounded right. They could be. Said it with confidence. Yeah, people ain't throwing that stuff like that.

That's super fire. But shout out, there's a bunch of cumbia from Colombia. I think originally, that's where cumbia originally came from. But most of us are more i'll say it i'll say it like that most of us care about cumbia because of what mexico did for cumbia and people don't want to hear it man they they don't want to hear but i think that's the conversation that needs to be had so anyway uh sonora santanera they're they're a group out of possibly guerrero maybe not um that area at least yeah yeah exactly exactly

that region of south texas region of the world somewhere in south texas they're from queen montana and like argentina yeah that's a good one to learn how to pronounce pronounce oaxaca oaxaca yeah oh yeah man what about i feel like a little disrespect by the fact that you did not mention javier solis you know what that's super fire i thought trey's question was about um it was yeah okay my bad but now you're right you're right So Javier Solis is the truth. Brilliant singer, also coming out of the golden age of Mexico. He sings a style of music called bolero, which comes from Cuba. He sings it in a style called rancheras, which is out of Mexico in the mariachis.

Dude, it is just soul shattering music. Like one of his biggest hits is saying something like, music like like one of one of his biggest hits is saying something like it's nothing but like shadows and fog in between the space of our lives you know now is a pop song I'll just sit there cry dog it sounds like daylight savings to be circadian's all messed up I'm getting moody with my kids but i love it i mean wait ladies love me like um aventura right hey is that the is that the that's the drake song right yeah i would see who's the other guy i was watching a clip it was like a youtuber kind of going the history of it was it uh sanchez chalat chaleno know charleno sanchez chelino sanchez who i was

watching a document or like uh somebody interview and they like handed him a death note and then he like threw it away and sang his last song do you do you see that oh man that's that's wild that's powerful because he yeah he made somebody in the cartel upset it's a cool story man well not for him but for me it was cool yeah all right it's a good youtube video yeah you do a youtube video so yeah we're checking out that story yeah if you get a chance i gotta check it out yeah that's fine i'm familiar with his music yeah yeah bandas also you know all right jordy all right i don't have a lifting question but i have a different question i think it'll be fun okay so you may have heard that jake paul is fighting mike tyson who you got oh man tyson no wow yeah he's 58 i, but power goes last. I mean, we literally know that. We know this.

We know this, dude. He's more than power. He's 58. I thought he was younger than that. I mean, but they got TRT and all that kind of stuff now, right? That's a good point. He's juiced. I don't want to get punched.

Between TRT and the vaccine, there's no way he loses. No, there's no way. There's no way. I think, yeah, I think he gets, I think Jake Paul gets touched. It's over. Yeah, I like what Jake Paul is doing. Don't get me wrong. I think it's obnoxious.

It's just beautiful, man. It's wonderful to see. It's like that SpaceX launch the other day. Right. What is Jake Paul doing? He's going to space in launch the other day right all right what is what is jake paul doing he's going to space and elon musk's rocket apparently to the moon that's that's bitcoin what yeah that's a job no excellent yeah i just chased nouns dude i don't know what we've been talking about i've just been it's all right man that's

it i'm like that's me that's me every week brother that's me every week that's hilarious wait so when is that fight jordy uh i'm not sure i just know it'll be on netflix i can look up the day oh damn go ahead i saw an inch brilliant is it gonna be like the most watched fox like fight in boxing like ever probably it's actually genius of netflix to put that on there oh yeah it's just on your phone right there if you have netflix to put that on there oh yeah it's just on your phone right there if you have netflix you can just turn it on like i'm gonna turn around oh yeah i'm definitely gonna watch that i mean i'd like i'd i'd subscribe to peacock if they made me like i mean whatever i gotta do that's where jeff watches all of his soccer so don't

subscribe to peacock it's so bad they got that one show they got the fosters and then all the spin-offs of the fosters after it's what's the fosters i've never heard of that show it was it was this show about these ladies who adopt uh kids and then they all grow up it's just crazy bro oh like foster parents like foster parents and they're the family and then they grow up and they follow two of the daughters to new york and they start being lawyers and then so it's like meet the parents meets a foster family. Then they're the family. And then they grow up and they follow two of the daughters to New York and they start being lawyers. So it's like meet the parents meets a foster family. Man, that's beautiful. Nah, it's like the Goonies on Lifetime. Oh. See, here's the problem, Matthew.

I'm taking you home with me now. I just made a cultural reference, which I'm usually really bad at by saying meet the parents. And I just thought I was going to go out on a win. And then you mentioned the Goonies and I don't even know what that is. And so now, now I'm so lost. It's an eighties classic. Grant's cultural reference.

You got to keep it in the box, dude. I'm shocked right now. You know, he made fun of me for not knowing how to use airdrop, man. And you didn't know the Goonies this whole time? That's crazy. I mean, mine was irrelevant

to the age. I don't know. Debatable. I don't know now. AirDrop's pretty old, dude. Was that... Sorry, I heard what you said and I cried. Goonies, who directed that?

Was that Spielberg? No. There's no way that was Spielberg. It was Sorcezi. That's right. Spielberg went from Goonies to Schindler's List. I think it's the guy that did Django Unchained. Quentin Tarantino.

Quentin Tarantino. Richard Donner. Oh, yeah. we don't even know. All right. I don't think that was it. Yeah. Brother Jeffrey. Yeah. Yeah. Brother Jeffrey Donner. So Matios, we're like rookies at having guests. And so we're going to just, there's two things that are going to happen. We're gonna let you ask each of. And so we're going to just, there's two things that are going to happen. We're gonna let you ask each of us a quick little question that we'll answer. We'll throw, you're on the hot seat. Welcome to the okay podcast hot seat. You were the first guest on the okay podcast hot seat. Never has anyone asked us a question. You asked us a quick question

and then we're going to give you some facts about a tax company, a tax advisory LLC that operates here. We'll give you a few nuggets of information about it, and then you'll give your best sponsored ad read. But first... Freestyle. Freestyle ad read. You can wrap it. You can sing it. Yeah, you can do it however you want. But first, just take it around the room. Start with whoever you want. Just a quick hot take of what you want to know about the the sponsors or the uh host of the okay podcast got you got you damn hot oh sorry for that hot seat

yeah we're so offended yeah kick him off hey can you can you edit that out yeah please get a swear jar public all right go ahead um all right so my first question is for jordy um setup that you have in the 54th floor of your spot in miami is that still there is that what you're doing still what's going on with that no that's been that's over with i was on the 19th floor of an apartment building in miami when i felt like the 54th, basically the 54th. He couldn't really feel the difference. It feels the same after, after 15, it feels the same when the birds fly, you know, in front of your window and below it, you're just like, okay, well, this is just high. I got tired of going and paying for a gym and walking down the street and having to go over there. And then not, there's only like two squat rags you got to wait for and all this stuff and uh just like i'll just build a

strength code gym in my second bedroom and so i did that um but i moved so i'm not in miami anymore i'm actually like two blocks from grant in greenville south carolina right now let's go yeah i'm a i'm a fan i'm a fan miami's fun to visit. Not my favorite place to live, but that's another conversation. Will Smith likes it. Facts. I mean, I get it. Is that from the movie I, Robot?

No. It's from Star Wars. It's from Star Wars. I am legend. Big Willie style, right? Big Willie style, baby. Big Willie style. All right, Matios, keep it going. Who you got next?

Big Willie energy. You're on the hot seat. Got you, Trey. I'm impressed with your knowledge of music, Trey. Do you have a background in music? Is this something you studied? Were you in a band in high school? Do you still sing? None of the above. None of high school? Do you still sing? None of the above. None of the above.

Do you still sing? I just can't sing worth a lick. Actually, it's a – no, it's something that I've always been into, man. I enjoy live music, so I always like going to concerts, music festivals, whatever it might be. Actually, that's how me and Jeff met initially is i invited jeff to a concert and jeff said no and i just went by myself um so that's how we first met initially but no man it's just something i've always loved music man i can't i i play piano a little bit

not really but it's just something i don't know i'm not picky when it comes to it but i kind of like a little bit of everything did you just say you play piano not well like i can i can read so my mom like growing up going to church my mom like hey you need to learn how to read sheet music and so she goes play piano and then that's how i learned so man that is beautiful the psalms don't sing themselves there you go there you go that is the fire that keep going said that uh abraham lincoln abraham lincoln that's right yeah true hey jeff uh my man that was wait so you uh i guess i my follow-up question to you jeff though is is how did you guys meet? But then how did you personally get to that place of him there? You know, like, where were you before?

What were you doing? And then why were you somewhere where he could have invited you to a restaurant? And you could tell. Yeah, so. Jeff hates this story. I love this story. So we were both in the same uh battalion in the marine corps so like grant and i showed up and then trey was in like the artillery class behind us

so grant and i get to fifth battalion 11th marines tango battery we're there for a couple months and then trey's class graduates artillery school and trey checks into to 511 he's in sierra battery so adjacent battery rival like my my mindset at the time was like oh if you're not tango battery like i don't want to know you like you ain't shit like uh yeah don't talk to me and so i remember like one day being at the armory or like you know trey and I like we're passing by or whatever. And for some, you know, Trey's a very like jovial,

talkative guy. I can talk to anybody like super friendly. And yeah, I think we ended up talking about music or something like that. Trey, like asked me like, Oh, I've got tickets to this concert.

Like, do you want to go? I, my version is, I think I had something going on. I think you did. I just give you a hard, I give you a hard time, but I like couldn't go and then trade.

I'm just going by himself. He's like, Oh, I'll find somebody else. And I talked to him later. He's like, Oh yeah, I just went by myself. And then I'm reality. Like one day, those kinds of things cut Jeff deep. Jeff's like the realist of the real. So I guarantee you Jeff, Jeff, Jeff feels really bad.

Whenever I bring this up severe guilt he's made up for it since then significantly but there's like one day we're both like i'm at like the armory and like trey is there also like kind of like in a different like a different like table like cleaning his weapon and he's playing music on his phone and i'm like who's listening to this music and i look over and straight i'm like no because i was like oh i don't think anyone has the same musical taste as me in the marine corps but like oh sure enough i look over and i'm like oh no it's that guy from sierra like he likes good music oh dang like as grant says that underground music right underground music maybe this guy is okay and then shortly after that i think yeah we ended up spending a

lot of time together like in training meetings and just shooting the shit in each other and then we moved in together and then we all live together yeah the rest is history so now we're on a podcast now we're on a podcast funny okay okay okay funny story about that matthias these guys so jeff really liked when we first met each other that I had a record player. And this is like before hipsters grew mustaches and like cuff their jeans and you know, like you weren't selling that one. Right. Like, and he thought it was really cool that I had records. And so I had records and they were all literally like my grandfather's records are bought at a yard sale. This is like 2011, 12.

And Jeff literally was the person, Jeff and Trey, that taught me they're still making records, Grant. Because I was like, wouldn't it be so cool if you could just get a new album put on vinyl because it sounds better on vinyl? And they were like, yeah, you can. There's a store down the street. Trey was like, I've actually spent like five grand in the last month. Look at all my new records. And these guys' record collections are insane. But yeah, that's funny. Cause I had no idea. I thought it was like, oh, in the seventies they released music on vinyl.

So you got to go to a yard sale. But you don't. You don't. I mean, I think you do, honestly. Yeah. Well, before we feed you this data for this tax or ad read, do you have any questions for me? Oh, look, there's a cat. That's beautiful.

You have a cat, Matios. Tell us about your cat. Oh, the baby dragon. Yeah, she's probably crazy, dude. I thought she was in heat. I taught her how to talk, which was the the problem so now she doesn't shut up oh i didn't even see it jeff oh you got a baby dragon too fam yes he's having fun he's so excited to be on yeah loves to be on camera any uh parting questions before we feed you the the bullets yeah no i, I do. I did have the question for you, Grant, was when are we opening a location?

You've never called me Grant. That's kind of offensive. Oh, my bad, Coach. Yeah, my bad. I do. Here we go. I do got a question for you. My bad.

I do got a question for you, Coach, and that is when are we opening a location in Redland? Will you manage it? You already know. You already know you already know well there's your answer hey there's your answer all right i have a question for you before i feed you these nuggets and we're gonna go around the room and everyone's gonna give a nugget and then you're gonna do your best ad read but before i do that when was the last time you lifted yesterday tbh what did you do i'm in all right oh yeah you know what i just throw all the weight i have on

which isn't much it ain't much it's just it's pandemic weight yeah it's 220 or so uh and i just do it repeatedly dude i'm waiting on some bumpers no disrespect uh but did you go bumpers yeah yeah i did. I did. I'll just go, coach. I'll do sets of five, honestly. I love it. Yeah, yeah. It feels good.

You know what I mean? I love it. So we'll give you a couple nuggets. Our sponsor, BW Tax, they're located here in Greenville, South Carolina, but it doesn't really matter where you're located. A lot of people think that your CPA needs to be in your state, in your county, in your city, but you can really do taxes from wherever you need to do taxes. And that would be my nugget of a takeaway. And Jeff, what else would you say about BW Tax? If you got questions and you want to get them on the phone,

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Yeah. I usually do this, Matios, and the bar is way down here. Just so you know. Yeah. Got it. Got it. You're going to crush it. No pressure. We're ready. Go ahead with your ad read, Matios. Tell us about the good folks over at BW Tax. Absolutely. BW Tax, I love them. They're based out of South Carolina, but they can do taxes for you anywhere. They have CPAs. They have the team that you need to cut through all the red tape. They did trades taxes, got them in and got them out. We've got to mention that whenever you're calling them, don't think you're going to be talking to some chat GPT, some bot.

You're not going to be put on hold for 25 minutes and then told we're going to call you back and then end up at church when they finally do and not be able to answer because you're in communion with the people that are around you. And how could you possibly stop? When you make the call, they're going to answer BW tax LLC from South Carolina to everywhere. Oh, goodness. Wow. Hall of fame, baby.

Wow. Hold on. Do we need for that? I'm just trying to think of the music. It's gotta be, it's gotta be a Cumbia music beat. It's gotta be. Oh,

please. Oh man. Yeah. I had to step away. i had to step away i just got a mic these ad reads are getting better and better man hey just wait till we get new sponsors we'll just be telling them no sorry too late yeah sorry um well matios we've really appreciated you coming on uh you've been a lightning. I've learned more about, uh, the method to the madness of that, which is behavioral occupational star Wars health than I've ever known. Uh,

we appreciate that. Uh, where can the people find you? If they liked your vibe, if they liked your hair, if they're watching us on YouTube, um, I feel like you're the big,

your biggest presence is on X. Uh, is it at matios gpt matios tv on all tv matios tv on all platforms yeah the name changes a little bit so at matios tv go check him out on x um and my favorite thing about matios is if you ever can't sleep um matios never sleeps and so just if you're bored and you need something to do, just go on X, look up his profile. And I guarantee you he's, he's what do you call it? Jordy X'd posted, posted. He's not tweeting. He's cause X previous

Twitter. Yeah. He's, he's X-ing all times of night. And if you're looking for labor, as a business owner, a small business owner, when I've been in need and needed people to do monotonous tasks like box plates and tape them and stack them while listening to Daft Punk, Matios has come and worked for me from 2200 to 03 for your non-military types. That means 10 p.m. to 3 in the morning.

He's an asset but uh matios thanks for coming on i appreciate you coach thank you all thank you trey jordy jeff love you guys and the cat too and the cat yeah so you can go ahead and hang up and then i know you're gonna text me but i'm not gonna read him for about 20 minutes because we still have some of the show to do oh no that's fire i'll cry all right that's good we'll see you brother thanks for coming on no no thank you guys thank you guys all right later he's super fire solid guess man it's a vibe he's a vibe i knew he'd be high energy i didn't i didn't know what we talked about yeah good Oh, that should be our award. Jeff, what award would you give Matias? Matias is a good dude.

Good dude. He's the good dude. Good dude. That was great. I enjoyed that. That ad read was great. So now we got two ad reads. Yeah.

I think we have, what, nine slots? Nine buttons. That's the goal is to fill all nine buttons. Next March, we should have a March Madness ad read. Oh, that's a great idea. There's a tournament of the ad read. It's a tournament of the ad read. Have the fans vote.

I love that, actually. Both of them. Right now, we could go head-to-head this March. Ooh. Let's start the championship. Straight to the championship speaking of championships uh jeff am i lucky is the next slide the ncaa tournament it is it is you know what the next slide is go ahead okay click click yeah ncaa tournament uh was anybody like anybody shocked about like a team that didn't make

it in like one of those bubble teams how do we feel do we want to go over like final four picks there was there was a bunch of bid stealers weren't there like nc state was a bid stealer i think so i think that the two things that surprised me and that i think are dark horses are nc state yeah just running through the ACC and finishing with a win over North Carolina state or North Carolina Chapel Hill. Yeah. And then South Dakota state nine in a row. So the Jack rabbits.

Yeah. With that, when she's like a Jack rabbit. So if you just play the mascot game, that's a fun game. Who wins an Arizona wildcat or Jack rabbit, Arizona wildcat. That's what I game. Who wins an Arizona wildcat or Jack rabbit? Arizona wildcat. That's what I think.

But is that how you feel about your bracket? No, but we do have shout out Mike Benner, slacker strength, a slacker member. He, he does every sporting event. Cause not,

I mean, he likes sports. Like he's a part of the conversation, but he just always like when we're getting into depth, in-depth conversations on sports, he'll be like, what are the getting into depth in-depth conversations on sports he'll be like what are the mascots and you'll tell him he'll be like oh this team's gonna win and he's right all year i was gonna say like statistically he probably gets just as many right as anybody else he does pretty good yeah but i think the wolf pack Wolfpack is going to go far. When you say far, like how far? Elite eight. Yeah, I think they're hot.

I think the Gamecocks are going to crumble, might even lose to Oregon, and then maybe win the first round. But I don't think that team is as good as they're led on to. But I think I had Duke, Creighton north carolina auburn in my final four solid yeah okay bruce pearl i'm like a bruce pearl believer i got an offense rolling yeah they're rolling on bruce pearl yeah they're pretty good like since bruce pearl has been there like auburn just been like a team that's all about being hot and cold.

If they get hot, they can be tough to beat. So we'll see. So A&M just hired a new athletic director, right? Jimbo Fisher? No, they poached Nebraska's. He was the interim AD. I know. But they poached Nebraska's AD, right?

And so who does A&M men's and women's play in the first round of the tournament? Nebraska. Now, do you think that's – do you think that's just like happenstance or do you think there's like, oh, we got to get a story out of this? Dude, I don't think we landed on the moon. You're asking the wrong guy. I don't know. What seed what seed is a m nine eight yeah nine okay those are that's me one of my questions is in those like eight nine or like those five ten matchups what's your

how do you how do you pick your team there based off the mascot the heart yeah the mascot that's it i couldn't tell you sorry i'm so bad at picking my cat i'm so bad at picking like basketball basketball team just dude i don't follow it as closely as i do football so like i know that the heavy hitters but that's about it the problem the problem with picking the basketball is you know it's not going to be the top six seeds right and it's so easy to look at it and be like oh i've heard of this school they're traditionally good at basketball yeah so i always just like pick so i think i picked uh san diego state i picked college of charleston who will i think they're playing alabama so that's a four versus 13 but But I was like, one, I'd like to see that happen.

And then like some team that no one expects is going to make it further. It's like, you have to pick a few. I really wanted Long Beach State to go all the way just for Connors mascotism. But man, Pan Arizona right out of the bat. Like, that's rough. That's rough. Trey, who'd you have in your final four? I haven't done it yet.

I'm doing it tonight. I honestly just wanted to see who y'all had and then just kind of pick. Oh, yeah. Me too. It's similar. Jordy, are you making a bracket? I didn't make one.

You still can. There's still time. I think it closes Thursday at 11, I think is when it closes. I'll make one just based off mascots and probably nail it. There you go. Yeah, you probably will. Just as good a shot as anybody else going off that. Yeah.

They're doing one of the opening round, like two of the games are in Salt Lake City. It's this weekend, so I'm'm gonna be out of town but like i was like well let me just see what tickets are crazy like literally like upper level last row was like six hundred dollars for a ticket and these are like this is like not i think arizona was a two seed right so i think they're the highest seed that's played but so it's like it is like four games though isn't isn't it? Two to four games? Well, I guess, yeah, they played the first two rounds, I think, yeah, in that.

Well, I don't know. So is there no games played at home? No. No, it's all on the road. Because in women's basketball, where I'm more knowledgeable, in the first round, they're just played at the home teams. Oh, really? Yeah.

I didn't know that. I think the first two rounds, but definitely the first round, they're just played at the home teams. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't know that. I think the first two rounds, but definitely the first round. Liberal Grant really into women's basketball over here. Liberal Grant, big women's basketball guy. That bracket was easy. It was actually so easy. There's a button at the top that says, undefeated South Carolina to go all the way.

And you just click yes, and it auto fills your bracket with the women's game cocks I was like done so out of here I know you want to rematch LSU South Carolina would that be the finals if it happened or yeah I'd be in the finals so uh both uh Iowa and LSU are on the opposite side so for us to play either of them it would be in the the finals, which I'm all about. Like I would love. I would actually, I would kind of like to see Iowa versus South Carolina as far as the limits go.

I think that'd be a really good game. Yeah. That or LSU. Yeah. But all right. Well, Jordy, you'll have to tell us your final four after you do your mascot evaluation. I got to do mine too.

I'll let you know next week. Yeah. I don't want to reveal mine now that Trey hasn't done his. Oh, yeah. Well, I revealed mine. I'll reveal it. Yeah, go ahead. I know you had Creighton in there.

Yeah, North Carolina, Creighton, Auburn, and then my wildcard pick was James Madison University. Ooh. Who am I? They kind of had – or they beat Arizona or somebody in the first game of the year. So I'm like, okay, they have potential to had a or they beat arizona or somebody in like the first game of the year so they have i'm like okay they have potential to like beat a better team on paper and then uh we had this really eccentric like assistant football coach in high school that went to james

madison so i was like all right this one's this one's for him they can coach coach cody hall coach cody hall shout out potential sponsor oh coach hall yeah coach hall.com receivers coach Coach Cody Hall. Coach Cody Hall. Shout out. Potential sponsor. Coach Hall. Yeah. CoachHall.com. My receivers coach. Yeah. Pretty sure he has that domain locked down. Yeah.

I wouldn't be surprised, actually. My kind of coach. So I'd say we got about 12 minutes to go. Maybe 10. So. I know we got some topics what what high points yeah we're not gonna get through them all but if we can if we try i did i did like this one i thought it was interesting trey trey posted this one was is sec baseball better than sec football

at my answer i'd be curious what y'all think i mean i think no way i mean seriously i mean okay i'm look sec baseball is one of the gamecocks few claims to fame if we're saying better like more fun to watch more fun to go to a game well it's baseball versus football now i'm more talking about dominant like top to bottom oh um yeah i'd say baseball's more dominant yeah i think it's deeper yeah dude it's like everybody like everybody i don't know how many are in the top 20 but it's just like i'd like arkansas is good lsu didn't else you win last year ole miss won the year before vanderbilt's always solid yeah vanderbilt crazy they're good at anything right now i mean yeah it's the southeast in general it's kind of like

a hotbed for baseball um so i think that's where a lot of that comes from because well football is like the sec is usually pretty dominant but it's just very top heavy you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah yeah there's like five good teams. And they're good. Really good. But baseball just seems to be top to bottom. Wild. I don't know.

They're all heavy hitters. Good pun. Oh, baseball joke. I get it. You know the Bible verse about baseball, right? No. What does it say? Genesis 1-1 in the big inning.

There's a tennis joke. There's a tennis joke in there too. Jacob served in Pharaoh's court. Nice. Eve stole first. Eve stole first. Adam stole second. Who's on first? Big Bible sports guy.

A lot of sports in the Bible. What if that's the last 10 minutes of this episode? Just going through Bible sports jokes. Great. I got more. That's all it is all right next time what else did you and trey want to talk about the the final episodes of dynasty i haven't watched it yet but i haven't watched the last the last one okay um okay have you watched it

have you watched any of them? Yeah, I've watched all of them. So I'll say this and I'll be interested. I want Trey to have this dogma going in. I do not like how much they slight Bill Belichick. And I want to know who's paying for it. I like the show. I think Brady's a class. I think Brady's a class. I mean, Robert Kraft must have produced it. Brady's a class act. He's like,

no relationships, perfect, this, that. But they make Bill Belichick seem so bad. Interesting. Yeah. I just thought that was an interesting way to frame that from what i've seen so far they make him he always just comes across as just like no comment like i mean that's very very distant yeah like has no emotion and just i don't know i know that's his thing but that's how he's come across so far yeah i'd be the last two episodes get get pretty uh fiery um yeah it's good though but i think jeff you'll love it it's uh yeah it's a great it's a great documentary and it just shows like some of the stuff like there was different like

riffs with players and stuff like i think the second to last episode was the most interesting between Belichick and Malcolm Butler. But yeah, it's just... What's interesting, though, is you have all these players and they're complaining about different things the coach is doing or this or that. But when they win, it just fixes everything. Yep. But then when they started losing,

they're just like, oh, Belichick sucks. But when they're winning, they're like, oh, it's all because Belichick works so hard. And then they lose, they're like, oh, he sucks. Yeah, it's interesting. But yeah, you'll love that documentary. But careful, that's one where I went to watch the last, I went to watch one episode the other night

and there was two left and I stayed up. You're just watching all of them. 50 minutes later than I should have. Yeah. And I was like, now I need to watch it again. Is it just covering like the, like Belichick, like Brady era with like the Superbowls or does it kind of go? It's the whole thing. It starts with Kraft purchasing them.

That's kind of where it picks up. Yeah. Saying he wants to, you know, bring in championships, New England. And then Kraft's painted really well of like, he realized there was issues and his job was to keep them together as long as possible. Go to massage parlors. Yeah, go to massage parlors.

And just that was to keep the team together. It was the only way. Okay. All right. I got to watch that. we gotta like yeah a couple episodes left of uh masters of the air i think we just watched six or seven okay man that show's good trey are you current no i got i got two more okay i got two more too but so you guys have all seen buck not make it right but then he comes back allegedly yeah allegedly comes back or allegedly doesn't make it right either i don't know i mean maybe yeah my i was like oh they haven't because i feel like wasn't there still some there was like some

confusion around like oh did right did you it's open up so i'm like in my mind i'm like okay he's gonna he's gonna be at some camp i'm on the one where they i'm on the one where they introduced the tuskegee airmen okay i haven't seen that one i think i have three left yeah okay we've been waiting for that episode because we're like they're in the intro yeah you see where do they where do they fit in with this so a doc a documentary just came out called like the 100th day or something that's like all the it's a documentary on those guys but all the b-rolls from masters of the air came out on apple tv and they're like sword number one i forget what it's called the hundredth something but yeah anyway man well yeah this is good we can't even get through all of our topics that's when you know you got a real podcast.

You didn't even touch fishing, man. Yeah, man. We didn't even talk about fishing. Because you said you caught 30 fish? So in my head, I thought it was maybe... I knew it was more than 30. And when I texted the guide, I was like, my wife thinks I'm lying. He goes, well, honestly, it was closer to 50.

He said it was his best day this year. Nice. But to be honest, none of them were big. I definitely missed like some nice ones, right? Like when good ones got on. But there was like a two-hour period where the bite was on. And it was like any seam I hit, they just bit. And it was just like bringing me.

I mean, there were sometimes like on a back cast, like, you know, back pause, boom, getting bit. I mean, it was crazy. Um, I think I photographed like three and I was like, I don't even, I didn't even care, but I was just like, I can't, I didn't even dock. Yeah. At that point, how many fish this was. It was crazy. Were you still just nymphing? Or was there a hatch going and you were going on top of the water? There was a hatch going. We did some nymphing.

I still haven't caught one off a dry fly. I definitely tried that day. I still haven't caught one off a dry fly. Mostly nymphing. We definitely did some roll casting, still water, some site fishing. That was actually kind of what he was working on me. It was actually funny. So, and maybe we'll end with this. He was like, you need it today, huh? Like as we're like changing out of waiters. I was like, I did, man, like come back from the Arnold. Like you're just so busy,

like boom, boom, boom. Like it's just nonstop. And I was like, and then just all day, it's like your phone rings and you stop and you're recording something. And then your phone rings and this happens. And then like, it's just like all day long. And I don't know if he wasn't really listening to me or what. And he goes, Oh dude, I'm not going to beat you up all day long forever. Like today was just a day where I need to teach you a bunch. And I was like, what? And he's like, are you saying like, I was too tough when you did? was like no dude i don't care at all how you treat me because he does treat you like terrible you catch fish what are you doing grant you done brogied that again why don't you you know he just like constantly like berate you

it's hilarious and i was like no i was talking about my business not about the fishing. The fishing was great. It was a good day. Trey, we know you've been practicing. Sign us off. All day, every day. What episode are we on? Zero, one, two. Correct? Yeah, verified. Verified.

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