The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 17: Lifting To Reduce Pain, Marine PFT & MRE Reviews

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 03:05 - Training To Prevent Pain 08:08 - Bracing For Your Lifts 12:08 - Jeff Joins! 13:48 - Marine Corps Training Stories 39:48 - Marine PFT 44:24 - Caitlyn Clark’s Ad Deals 46:29 - New Rules In The NFL 53:25 - New Jersey 01:01:20 - General Fitness vs Specialization 01:10:45 - Energy Drinks 01:16:58 - Airports and Rental Cars 01:25:02 - PJ signs us off

All right. And welcome back to episode 017 of the OK Podcast powered by The Strength Co. I'm your host, Grant Brogy. I'm here in studio in the beautiful upstate of South Carolina with PJ, producer Jordy. And we got an exciting show for you. Thanks for tuning in. Each week, we get a few more views, a few more listens, a few more downloads, a few more people popping in our DMs to say, okay. And we appreciate that. Fun stuff to talk about. Both Jeff and I had some Marine Corps training last week.

But before we jump too far into that, Block Height 840589. You had a lot of Block BTC chat going on. Let me just say right now, if you're not a part of the Strength Co. Slack community, you're missing the best show. Amen. You're missing the show. We had an extensive debate on the value of it. You did?

I learned a lot just from reading it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Apparently, there's some divides. There's some disagreements in the crypto world, even in the Strength Co. chat. And we were going at it. What's the value of Bitcoin? Do you need government enforcement for currencies?

Deep topics. And it's a safe space. I know a lot of people don't want to talk about maybe Bitcoin or crypto or keep their cards close. And so that's actually a private channel. Yeah. And it's understood that everyone has lost any Bitcoin they have in a boating accident. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's understood. Anyone that has Bitcoin, they lost in a boating accident. But yeah, you were really going at it there. Dude, I was seeing him respond and say a few things going out there, dude. I was like, you know, I was seeing

him respond and say a few things and chirping at me. And I'm like, all right. I finally, he sent this huge message. I'm like, all right. I cracked my knuckles. I like rolled up my sleeve. I like highlighted and copy pasted his different points into a new message and was trying to debate him. But the thing is people, if you're listening, you miss the whole thing. You miss the whole education. That's right. I i will say this is it's been kind of cool doing my job because i'm the video guy but it's like i've got an education yeah through so many things like a financial education a crypto education a fitness strength training education it's kind of cool as a nerd i'm a nerd deep down so great job it's a great job yeah no so that was

cool the halving happened last friday yep uh when as expected when is expected did it go as expected like was it yeah it worked everything all right yeah it halved it halved it's in half it's in half well we'll give you the price of bitcoin when this uh when this thing flashes unless jordy's got it up on the screen there i don't i don't i actually i actively try to avoid looking at it i never look at it i just look at it 66 697. okay so it's still 666. oh it is yeah so we got to fix that by the end of the show but if it doesn't fix it by the end of the show it'll probably be fixed by friday when you get to listen to it that's right. So I want to talk a little bit today before we get the guys on here about about what's the best way to put this? The

importance of training in order to keep things from hurting. And I'll give you a little example. You know, I often tell people if your back hurts, if your knees hurt, if your shoulders hurt, when you get into the gym and you start moving around, things start to feel better. And of course, you still have daily aches and pains. Everyone does as you get older. That's a normal deal. But it's better if you lift consistently. And not to pat myself on the back, but I lift consistently. I don't really miss lifting ever. And so I never have these things kind of creep up and bother me. With that said, I had Marine Corps drill this past weekend. I had to run my physical fitness test on Saturday. So I flew out on Thursday night.

So I lifted Wednesday, normally deadlifted and I forget what else I did. And then I didn't lift Thursday. And then I flew to New Jersey. And then Friday I did just kind of like a PT with the Marines, nothing crazy, just your typical, like, you know, get hot and sweaty for 30, 45 minutes, something like that. Um, so I did that on Friday and intentionally did not lift because Saturday morning at zero six in the rain, I had to do my Marine Corps physical fitness test, which I did. So it's pull-ups, a plank and a run. We'll probably talk about that later. And then I did that Saturday and then you work all day. And then we had an event Saturday night. And then Sunday I came in and some of the Marines during

chow time were doing a thousand pound challenge. I couldn't go for the whole time, but I wanted to show the Marines that I do indeed lift. So I went in and I squatted a top single of like 455, but I was coaching most of the time. So I wasn't doing as many warmups as normal. I didn't get in like a workout. Yes, 455 is hard, is hard for me, but I didn't, it wasn't like a training session. And then that was it. And then Sunday night, I got home here about 2 a.m., went to bed, was behind on all my normal work on Monday. And I just thought, I'm exhausted. I technically squatted yesterday. I'm going to wait until Tuesday to lift. And so that's the point of this. This morning, I woke up and my back hurt, my knees hurt,

my elbows hurt. I mean, I'm talking like I felt like I was 75 getting out of bed. And I was working, sitting at the desk, doing different stuff. I walked out of my office and just everything hurt. And it started dawning on me of like, oh, and I'm not saying I missed a bunch of days, but like when you get out of the routine of going in and loading your back and low bar squatting and deadlifting, you know, it had been essentially like six days before I had a volume type workout. My back was just like killing me and not like sharp pain, injury pain, just like ache, dull ache, you know, hard to put socks on. So I'm there at the office, I'm working and I'm thinking, man, I should just wait until tomorrow. Come on, Grant. You lifted

Wednesday, you did PT Friday, you ran three miles Saturday, you squatted Sunday, you're still in a 72-hour window. And then I thought to myself, if I don't lift, I'm going to keep dealing with this back pain. So I went to the gym and I was like, I don't care what the numbers are. I don't care what the program says. I'm just going to lift until my back feels better. And I did two sets with the Mars bar, two sets of five, and it still hurt. Didn't get any worse, but it hurt. And then, you know, one 55 and two 45 or whatever and i got a 315 i did the first set at 315 and i was tired i was beat up from the run i was beat up from different stuff and my back started to feel better i was like oh i'm gonna do another set so i did another set

and then another set and then another set i ended up doing five sets of five which isn't like hard weight for me and then i finished and i felt great felt great. And I, it just dawned on me, like, because the, what everyone thinks is this hurts, I should not use it. Like this hurts. I should give it a rest. And it was the rest itself that actually caused the pain. And, um, and so if you're in that position where something hurts and I'm not talking about a tweak or an injury in the gym, I'd still advocate those people can go into the gym, but I just mean in general, if you're in that position where something hurts and I'm not talking about a, a tweak or an injury in the gym, I'd still advocate those people can go into the gym, but I just mean in general, if you find yourself where you're out of your routine and your normal

lifting, you're not moving, you know, as much as you normally do, or you're doing something different. I have no doubt that me, you know, puking my guts out on a three mile run contributed that back pain.

Cause I don't run enough, um, to just go and do that out of the blue. I have no, no doubt in my mind do that out of the blue. I have no doubt in my mind that that was a contributing factor, but it was just amazing how getting back under the bar and lifting the thing that if you went to a doctor and said, I'm experiencing back pain, well, how bad is the back pain? Well, I wake up in the morning, it's hard to put my socks on. Oh, don't lift anything over 50 pounds for three months. And not that 315 for five by five,

some historic feat of strength but i was able to go in there and do it and then now i feel fine isn't that annoying yes very annoying it's so annoying dude i did my five by five today yeah you know i discovered something today and i was listening i won't go into this too much but i was listening to some uh some ed cone podcasts yeah nice goat right The goat greatest power lifter. Yeah. He was, he's amazing. But I was like just skimming some podcasts and heard him on it. I was like, Oh, this guy's interesting. I was listening to him and he was talking about, um, how much he focuses on his setup and his bracing. Like it's a whole, it's a whole process

just for the bracing part, let alone the squat. Right. Right. And I was like, okay, I'm going to think about that today. And so I set up for my squat. I was doing, I did three 20 five by five and which I was going into it thinking, okay, this is, I'm going to do this, but it's going to be hard. Yeah. Cause your best five, I've had three, three 25, three 25. Okay. Yeah. So we're there. And so I was like, this can be hard. It'll be doable, but it'd be hard. And I feel like I always brace obviously, but I was, I was like, I'm going to try to brace like my entire torso as hard as I can. Like not just think, Oh, I'm tight. Like squeeze as hard as I could. And I did that dude. It went way better. Oh, it's I, you know, we,

we coach this. There's a video coming out of the channel probably this weekend from our last squat camp there in Costa Mesa, California. And, you know, I went kind of in-depth on the Vesalva, you know, how to put your low back into a little bit of extension and then come back and brace. And you can teach it. You can say everything right. You can look at a person and they're doing it.

But it's not until like it gets heavy and it's hard and they really have to focus but when you figure out actually how to you can call it setting your lumbar you can call it bracing call valsalva but when you figure out how to get really tight yeah i mean today so i went up to i'm just gonna pretend the mars bar is not 65 pounds because it makes the math hard but i went up to 275 for a set of five is like a final warm-up i didn't put my belt on and then when i went into the first one which i guess would have been 335 um i just like i was like i'm gonna make the leather on this belt like pop like i'm gonna hear it like move and it's not from pushing your belly out it's from getting as much air as possible and just really really over emphasizingmphasizing the brace.

And that was when the first set, like my back pain went away. It was like loading the low back with weight. I was like, Oh yeah, now I feel good. So I feel like it just clicked. Like, cause like obviously I've braced, of course, but I was like, Oh, maybe this is bracing. Maybe I didn't even know what bracing was. Yeah. And I think, I don't think until it's like heavy or you're paranoid, it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter. Iacing was. Yeah. And I think, I don't think until it's like heavy or you're paranoid. It doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter. I mean, it matters.

Like you don't want your low back like moving all around, but it's got to be, you know, some kind of. If you're 50% braced, you're, you know, it's, you're braced. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. It's good enough.

It was almost, it was, I braced so hard. Maybe I shouldn't do this, but I braced so hard that at least because it was new, that was almost more uncomfortable than the squat movement itself. Yeah. Yeah. But it, this, I can show the video. I could took a video of it. Like the speed of it was way faster than I thought. That's good. Yeah. Three 50 next week. Five by five. Literally. I mean, three 20, the way I expected it to go, it felt like it was like, I don't know, 300. That's good. Yeah. That's good. Well, anyway, so there's your hot lifting from Grant's super advanced, awesome training

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episode 017 of the okay podcast wait i did that wrong episode 017 of the okay okay okay podcast powered by the strength co uh we are missing our dear friend mr trace gotledge tonight uh had some stuff going on so he couldn't make it but don't worry um that's why jeff's the slide guy uh he's the staff officer that runs this thing and uh you know it's the marine corps next man up can't make it trade boom shot in the head we'll get the xo and i got the xo right here so he's here but we will miss trey but don't worry he's still a part of the show there wasn't a falling out there's no drama uh he just couldn't make it today but um what's up jeff not much not much just kind of a little marine corps training yeah you know got the customary field tan sunburn kind of thing even though it was like very

overcast the one day that it was like sunny next morning woke up and i was like did i get did i get sunburn like oh man class is, man. How is this possible? That UV. Would you say that you had that old Marine Corps spirit? I was pretty motivated. It was a good feel. It was motivating. Yeah. Even though it rained on us all day Saturday.

Should we just dive into Marine Corps training now? Yeah, it's a good segue. We're already here. Yeah. We're already here. Yeah. We're already here. So you guys, so you want to talk about like sleeping in the field, going to the field,

it rained and you trained and, and then I'll, I'll tell you about like running a PFT and your mid thirties and you go first. Did you turn your phone off 30 minutes before and read philosophy before you went to bed and did your red light and your yes exactly yeah he's got so much high quality sleep that was the that was the theme of the weekend yeah started with a holiday and express uh just temperature roller coaster with the thermostat yeah followed up that with uh a night of sleeping in the office which is always great and then followed that up with the night of

sleeping in the field so it was literally just a progressive like step down of sleep quality so it was super fun i definitely was not feeling it for like the next three days. Yeah, that sounds rough. So you went out to the field for two nights or one? So it ended up only being one. We kind of got all the stuff done that we wanted to on Saturday. And I think we would have had half the battery dropped to the IRR if we had stayed out that second night after getting rained on all day. And the plan was kind of like wrap up like end of day Saturday,

and then just kind of stage vehicles and then roll out the morning next morning early. And so if we had just like staged vehicles and then everyone had like tried to go to sleep, just like soaking wet and cold, people would have, people would have probably just like deserted. Yeah.

Well, and I think it's for those that are listening that haven't served in the uh in the service i'll say marine corps but like in a lot of people when they hear you go out to the field you know i remember in california people used to say you'd meet someone he's like oh i can't i'm going to the field they're like what are you a farmer and i'm like no it's just the term you use to go out and conduct training. And in artillery, it's a very anti-tent community. You shoot, you move, communicate. You set up this elaborate thing to shoot artillery,

but then the idea is that you can leave very quickly. So you want a very small footprint on the ground. So most people think like, oh, you sleep in the barracks in the field, right? And there's showers and this and that. And there's definitely not any of that. You just sleep on the ground. I mean, you can bring a cot, but there's showers and this and that and uh there's definitely not any of that you just no sleep on the ground i mean you can bring a cot um but you know there's no showers uh there's baby wipes and uh yeah it's funny and and it's like you know jeff and i a bunch of crusty major reservists like when you're active you go out and you'll do that for like 20 days i'm not even

talking deployment i'm just talking about like training You'll go to 20 and palms for 21 days to run an ITX and like, you don't shower for 21 days. Yeah. You sleep on the ground. You know, you shave on the hood of your Humvee. Oh wow. So yeah,

it's just a, it's a different world. And, and when you get used to it, I think it's harder though, as a reservist, because when you're active, like it's just the lifestyle.

And of course, when you come back, you have a nice place that you stay at active, like it's just the lifestyle. And of course, when you come back, you have a nice place that you stay at and air conditioned room and all that stuff. But you're just used to like, Hey, every month I go to the field for maybe, you know,

seven to 10 days or whatever. In the summer, I go to this long exercise in the winter. I go to this long exercise, but in the SMCR, you're like, Oh man, I got to do this for like 72 hours which isn't hard it should be like way

easier no you're just so not as accustomed to it as you are when you're when you're in the fleet it's like not lifting and then being like hey you want to do a three-hour workout exactly yeah exactly yes yeah that's a great way to treat what you guys push for some chow do you guys have some uh good ugr chow oh yeah okay chow. Regiment. High on the hog. The first one. Yeah. First night, we had, oh, gosh. It was like pulled pork.

I don't think I'd had that one before. A UGR with pulled pork? Yeah. All right. So let me explain to Jordy real quick when we say hot chow. So most time you go to the field, you're giving an MRE, a mystery, a meal ready to eat. Yep. And it's like, hey, every Marine's given two of these for the day. Chow's continuous. It's not like it's lunchtime. It's just you eat when you want to eat it.

Okay. And then like at night or in the morning or sometimes both, depending on the length of the op, you'll have hot chow, which means that the food service Marines that are assigned to you, or maybe they're from another unit come in and basically the stuff that's in the MREs rather than it being in an MRE isn't like a big tray, but in the tray, they have like a field expedient way to heat the food. Okay. It is, does make a big difference. I was going to ask, is it better though? Are you excited to see them? Yeah, I think it's better. Yeah. I think it is better.

Yeah. It definitely peps people up a little bit. It's different than MRE because the thing with MREs is they're not that bad, but you've had them all like 500 times. So you're just like, oh, not this thing again. So there's just a little bit of variety. What's the best MRE? My top pick, I think it's a classic chili mac.

Oh, chili mac. It's one where you, so there's a technique where you just take the big brown bag, it comes in, you kind of fold it down and it becomes kind of like a bowl. it down and it becomes kind of like a bowl yeah with chili mac you can basically dump everything that comes in there into that and like mix it up because it's like chili mac which is just like so explain noodles explain like a main meal and then like yeah there's like different components so you have your main meal so for chili mac it's like you know the macaroni noodles and the ground beef and the whatever sauce that's mixed in. There's usually then like some sort of snack thing. A lot of times it's these like crackers that are like the driest crackers you've ever had in your life. Yeah.

And then with that, there's some sort of cheese spread or peanut butter or something like that. Spreads. And then there's some sort of dessert. They'll throw in sometimes like m&m's skittles kind of like name brand stuff and then other times they'll be like uh pound cake or like cinnamon bun or okay but it's much more satisfying when all the components of it outside of like maybe the dessert can be put in and mixed and if you're lucky it came with a little tiny bottle of tabasco yeah but if you heat it up and mix it it's like because if you just eat the crackers you're like

like there's no moisture left if you just eat the chili mac but or if you just eat the cheese spread it's terrible but if you actually had time to heat up your chili mac and then put the cheese spread on it and like mix it it's better doesn't it heat up it heats like add water to something yeah yeah yeah you add water to a plastic bag and then you lean it up against a rock or something okay it's literally what the instructions say yeah a rock or something a rock or something or something or something yeah um so okay so yeah chili mac was always my like if i could get that one i was pumped about it That's your go-to? Yeah. I like spaghetti with beef ravioli. Yeah, that is a solid one.

Yeah, I like the components of it. But the UGRs, so the hot chow, it is better. And once in a while, not so much in the SMCR, or I haven't really seen it, meaning the reserves, but you'll get a food marine, the food service marine, that takes a lot of pride in cooking hot chow. And they'll name everything. So they'll have everything out. And they'll be like, this is that Bill Cosby juice.

And it'll be like the purple drink. And they'll name everything and label it. And then they'll bring extra ingredients. So they'll bring like cans of like jalapenos. And so when they make like the powdered eggs, they'll make like jalapeno eggs. And whenever you get those Marines that like take a lot of pride

in what they're doing behind the food service, that's great. Do you get more food? Is it like... No, an MRE is what? 3,000 calories? Yeah, MREs. If you eat every single thing?

Yeah. Oh, that's pretty good. Something like that. Oh, yeah. I mean, none of it's good for you. It's all like super dehydrated soybean oil. You just need fuel. You're just looking for energy.

Yeah. I need 3,000 calories now. I don't care what it is. I do think that the coffee that comes in the MREs is underrated. Oh, okay. And that's a recent thing because when I went to the field a few months ago with golf battery you know i didn't know the coffee situation i hadn't taken command yet they are well aware now that like there will be a coffee pot in every every section but you know so i brought my brica

which i would make in the morning um but then the afternoon i want a coffee and like there wasn't just coffee readily available and so i didn't want to be like the new major on deck like hey where's my coffee uh you know without giving him a fair warning so i started grabbing them all from the mres and then i would just heat water my little you know it's i don't have a fancy jet boil but that type of deal and this is pretty good okay that's good that's good to. Yeah. Go for the coffee out of the MRE bag. Nice. Nice.

Maybe I need to go on the MRE diet. Just pound two of those every day. Hey, that would do, that would do something. Yeah. And I'm not saying that I don't have a bunch of cases in my attic for doomsday,

but if you need some, I may have access to some. Okay. Same. Same. I definitely don't have any but i may send you one lost in a boating accident yeah yeah so yeah ugrs i feel like for the most part they're pretty well received what's it stand for unit group unit ration or something yeah like

unit unit group ration or something so but it's it's it's not the exact same thing as an mre but it's like basically the same, but just in larger quantity. Okay. Sophisticated MRE. Yeah, exactly. And then they always have hot sauce, but the hot sauce is the Tabasco hotter than hot hot sauce. Like nine times out of 10. You like that though?

So I love spicy and yes, I use it, but it is hot. It is hot. Or it's the, or it's the, the Texas Pete, like the black label one. It's always like the hottest that company makes. And you're just like,

what? And at breakfast, it's like, it can be bacon or it can be what in the Marine Corps is called baby dicks. Okay. Which is like little sausages. Yeah. I figured.

Yeah. Yeah. I figured that out. And then, and then there's a, there is like little sausages. Yeah, I figured. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me some of them they're explosives i'm like why are they explosives oh sir you just eat them you'll see you'll know real quick but i do like the the sawmill gravy like when that's the breakfast that

like uh the explosives that's the only thing i like that one yeah um yeah well good so well good training it sounds like yeah we had hot chow and then so we went to bed that night like things and things went well for in the field like things went fairly smooth again like you run into little things like again we we couldn't count rifles it's like hey we know no one can it's in it is it's insane it is so comical like because she's like okay i know we have like but then like just the process of people counting and then like trying to like count everyone. And then there's like literally people like walking away from the back of the formation. And it's like,

no, you're being counted. Like, where are you going? Like, why are you leaving right now? So there's a thing like called serialized gear, which means like if you lose your backpack,

I mean, of course someone cares, but like, it doesn't matter. Like every Marine is a rifleman. You have your M4. Yeah. And then on the end of your M4, you have a pack, like your like doesn't matter. Like every Marine is a rifleman. You have your M4. Yeah. And then on the end of your M4,

you have a pack, like your like little laser deal and flashlight. And then, you know, you have your scope and RCO. It's like, those are three components. And then you have your night vision goggles.

And as far as like the basic Marine, like those are the four components that they have. Yeah. And so everyone goes to the armory, like in the morning before you go and you check out your gear and then there's like a staff sergeant with like a green book because i don't know why we can't just use excel or have a qr code and he's like hey come here pj and he's like what's your serial number and he's like whiskey four two seven nine four and he like has like he's like writing it out. Like PJ, you know, M4 whiskey,

zero seven, whatever. And then what's your peck, you know, serial number. It's like four, two, seven, nine, boom, boom, boom. And so he's like writing it out. And then he like totals at the bottom. He's like, all right, we've got 87 M4s. And so then like, you'll have all the Marines of formation. Like every time you move, you like check to make sure you have all your gear. And so they're like, everyone lift your M4s in the air, count off. It's like, everyone like lifts their M4s, like they're like Taliban or something. And they're like, one lift your M4s in the air. Count off. So everyone lifts their M4s like they're Taliban or something. They're like, one, two, three, four. There's different methods of doing this.

And you're looking as the officer at the staff sergeant's number like, okay, we're going to stop at 87. And you stop at like 95. And you're like, yeah, how is this possible? Or you stop at like 80. Yeah. And yeah, so it's always like getting the initial accountability, especially again

in the reserves just because you don't do it all the time yeah it becomes very it's it's just always a pain and it's always something stupid you know like submarine didn't pull a rifle because whatever reason and you know submarine didn't pull a rifle cause they have a two 40 meaning a machine gun or it's always the dumbest thing. Yeah. And it adds up. It's just funny to watch. Cause like having been at regiment with Biggie as the FDO,

like I didn't deal with any of that. And then my first exercise in golf battery, it was, you know, I was just observing the current CEO. It had still been there before we changed over. And like, they can't do numbers.

I'm like, you could take me back to 2012. And this is the exact same thing that like we were dealing with. It's like, no one can count. No one can count. It's funny. Has anyone ever just lost a rifle?

I mean, I've never been a part of this, but I'd never been a part of it. I've never seen it. I've never been a part of like something that got lost and like, just never got found again. I'm just knocking on some wood. Yeah, that's a bad time.

Not like miscounted. It's just gone. I don't know. Generally, what happens is that pack on the end or the RCO will fall off. Or NVGs. The night vision goggles. A Marine will put them in his cargo pocket pocket as cargo pocket has a hole in it. Yep.

Those are usually things you lose and the, but you stop everything. Yeah. Like you stop all training. You send everyone back to the last exercise and everyone puts on flashlights and they, we call it getting online and they just walk through until they find it. And most of the time you find it,

but I've never been part of like a real bad one. I've had adjacent units. Yeah. I've had adjacent units where it's like, everyone's supposed to come out of the field Saturday. This is active duty. And they're there till like Tuesday. Cause they're just looking for like in the field and they're looking.

Oh, oh, you do not like, you don't have that. You don't have like, Oh, well we lost, we lost the scope.

No big deal. Oh, it stops everything. And for three days, they were there. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. You hear horror stories about like, so the big place to go out and train is 29 Palms.

So it's this huge desert training area. And, you know, a lot of times you're doing like a little more kind of advanced type stuff. Like you're moving from position to position at night. So you're doing convoys like at odd hours. People are sleepy, like, you know, they they set something on like the wheel well or the hood of the Humvee. And then they're like, oh, we got to go. They jump in the truck and drive off. And so like it falls off in some random spot.

and so like it falls off in some random spot and so you just hear about units like yep they're uh they they like you know are sending people out there still like two weeks after like go comb the desert uh is that a money thing or is that a discipline thing or is that a like i'd say it's like a discipline responsibility thing yeah it's not worth the money to send them out there for two weeks no no no it's just like a and it's a it's a ccir like so commander's critical requirement so like or information requirements like some things happen like if a marine commits suicide it's like no you don't get to decide that you're gonna like handle this on your level you must tell this level up your chain of command and if you lose gear it's you know whoever finds out at least the regimental commander probably higher and so it's like a bad thing right so a lot of

times and i've been definitely in scenarios where i can tell something's been lost and everyone's avoiding you the officer because they're trying to fix it. Like, where's that Humvee going? Oh, we're just going to go do some convoy ops real quick, sir. Don't worry. We'll be right back. And they're driving back to the last position to find whatever they lost, which is good. Yeah, it's like, all right, as long as you find it.

Yeah. Good training. Did it rain at night? So thanks. The forecast leading up you know less you know three days out from droil was like 85 chance of rain at like midnight and that's to me that's always the worst when it starts raining like while you're sleeping the worst it's the worst because you kind of like scramble to like if you how was your field craft did you did you

cover everything up oh we were good to go we were good to go and thankfully like as like the day got closer like the forecast kept pushing a little bit to the right so like it kept starting like you know we went from midnight to 1 a.m to 2 a.m and then it actually didn't end up raining until like 5 30 4 a.m um oh man so so but then once it started raining like it rained the whole day it was i don't know if you follow 14th mara all day 14th marine regiment on instagram i don't if you guys are gonna check it out 14th mar reg we i say we because i run it um but we we showcase the artillery stuff across the regiment, which is pretty cool in the SMCR cause it's across the entire United States. And you know,

people do stuff everywhere. And that photo did really well. Um, I can't remember if you sent it or I forgot who sent, someone sent it to from headquarters and it was just the fire direction center Marines just in puddles of mud. And I think it did well because photos do bad on instagram these days you can take the nicest photo of a stranko plate that's like awesome

and aesthetically perfect and post it and with 30,000 followers no one likes it but i think that did well because everyone that looked at it was like oh i've been there like because everyone that follows or the majority is you know marines or vets and they're like oh now i follow yeah that that that sucks i know that feeling yeah yeah so that was that was like as we were like packing up to go so i think that like marines were like once once you get that word like oh we're coming out of the field early like oh man they were harder than they've ever worked in their life. Marines will work so hard and efficiently and fast, and things start happening way faster than ever. So dudes were trying to undo this tent thing

that has all these little pins you got to undo, and it's way too complicated for anything that the military needs. But dudes were diving into the mud like reaching under like grabbing stuff whereas like normally that would not happen and so like they were they were having a good time so i was like oh i gotta get a picture of these guys okay so you've done a lot of training what for you guys what's what was like the hardest training that you guys remember going through like either either the hardest like skill wise like difficulty or just like the heart like most miserable i don't know if i'm gonna make it through this oh gosh i think i got i got one that comes to mind right away

so it was so when you're in like an artillery battery yeah you're riding around a lot of trucks you're driving stuff places um so you're not really carrying all your stuff, like, very much, if ever, honestly. And then I got, like, transferred over to an infantry battalion to, like, be there, like, the artillery officer that's, like, in the company to advise the company commander on artillery, like employment and capabilities. And so the infantry, like they walk everywhere, they carry all their stuff, which you do a lot of in your like initial training coming through as an officer. But then, you know, for a couple of years, basically didn't really walk anywhere with my stuff. So I wasn't used to that. And then, you know, check into this infantry battalion and they're like, OK, two weeks.

We're doing our Marine Corps combat readiness evaluation, which is like this big, long. It's like a week long exercise. Like, yeah, we're like they're putting the infantry battalion basically through like any mission set that it's like supposed to be able to do. Yeah. So. And like we get we get dropped off at this one place we do this kind of one small movement and then like you know we get the like the order like oh hey we're moving from this place down by the coast on camp penelon to like this place like way far

inland and camp penelon has some gnarly Hills like mountains. Yeah. Yeah. They are like their mountains. Yeah. They are steep. And so you're carrying a ton of stuff. And I was like 70 pounds,

you think a hundred pounds easily, easily 70 pounds. Yeah. Easily 70. I mean, think about it. Like if you were going somewhere for five days, it's like everything that you want. Do you want your coffee pot?

How important is coffee? Cause that's like three more pounds or like what like everything is is weight it's like well i have to have water i have to have food like that's a tough decision yeah especially if it's cold and you need to pack warming layers oh man so it just seemed like we walked we walked like all night just up and down these like fire breaks across Camp Pendleton. And just like, it seemed like it went on forever. And I was hurting. I was hurting so bad because I was just like, oh, I hadn't done this in, you know, a year, year and a half or something like that. Yeah.

You also have like the stress of I'm the artillery guy attachment and i'm an officer so like i can't look like a weenie right because like i'm representing you know artillery men and i'm not like there's always a little bit of like the like when you're cold when everything's miserable like you want to like look to the leader and be like oh like they set the tone that guy seems fine right you know and like when you are that guy even like it doesn't matter what level it is right it doesn't have to be a general it might be a lieutenant second lieutenant you might be over 30 guys but like you have to be like when they look at you be like oh well you know and it is fine because if you're not fine

it's way so the benefit of you being fine and not looking like we all know what word i want to use but if you if you're not looking if you're looking like that that's terrible yeah if they look at you and they're like oh second lieutenant biggie's fine he's chilling there's really not that much benefit except that they didn't think the worst thing ever about you so yeah yeah that was yeah but it'll go downhill quick if you're if you look oh yeah yeah i think i think for me it was um it was a steel night in 2013 it was armor evaluation before we went to afghanistan and it was just it was just stupid cold and it was just like i mean i you can't escape it because it's, it's not like, so it'll be cold, right? It

gets cold in Utah and you know, you walk out of your front door, Jeff, and like you go to your car and you're like, I should've put a coat on. I'm cold. Then you're in your car and like, you're cold for like two seconds or maybe three minutes in your old Jeep. And it takes a little while for the heat to go. And then you're fine. And you get out and it's like, Oh, snow in my face. Oh, I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. And then you're fine and you get out it's like oh snow in my face oh i'm so cold i'm so cold i'm so cold i'm so cold and then you walk into your work and like oh like i'm warm again yeah and like when you go out of the field it's like whatever the environment is you were in that environment the whole time and it never stops and so this was just uh it was just cold and i just remember trying to sleep i was actually trying to sleep next to first arm bimbo and uh and uh and i remember the next

morning like my my zippers were frozen because it had like rained and i couldn't get out of my sleeping bag and yeah it was just it was miserable but uh the duration kills you yeah well they're just non-stop so then like you get in your bag and you're not supposed to get in your bag with like all your warming layers on because like you need to let your feet breathe and the bag is actually usually designed to be better if you're like in just green on green okay rather than like have all your stuff but then like if you leave all your stuff outside of your bag then when you get out of your bag you go to put on the frozen words so you like actually get in the initial bag and then you have like a waterproof sack over the initial bags and you put all your clothing in between the bag that you're in and your

outside bag. That way it has body heat when you get up. But like getting in at night is a pain. Like you need to like wipe your butt with a baby wipe and like clean your toes, but you don't want to because you're taking your clothes off. You're freezing cold. And then you get in and you finally like are trying to sleep.

And then it's like super cold. So you sleep terrible. And then it's like ruffly, ruffly, ruffly. It's time to get up. And you're like going for your zipper and your zippers frozen. As soon as you open it, like cold cold so you sleep terrible and then it's like ruffly ruffly ruffly it's time to get up and you're like going for your zipper and your zipper's frozen as soon as you open like cold air hits you in the face and you're like trying to find like your cami bottoms and you're like would it have been better to just let them out and like be frozen because and then

you have like it's that like getting out of the sack and like getting changed it's like the worst part of the day you're just exposed and if it's raining it's worse yeah that's the moment when you go to unzip the sleeping bag and it's cold and you're just like what am i doing i volunteered to be here yeah and you're like this sleeping bag sucks it hasn't kept me warm and then as soon as you crack that zipper you're like oh it's kept me way warmer than it is out there doing something well before we turn uh pj into a marine uh i'll just close out with uh the pft and uh we do get a lot of good marine comments and people saying they enjoy the marine stuff but uh so i had a pft physical fitness test it's a uh pull-up event pull-up or chin-up 23 for my age brackets, the max. And then it is a plank,

which is pretty strictly monitored actually. So, uh, you know, your forms are on the deck, your hands can't be class, your feet are on there. And if we go three minutes, 45 seconds, and then it's three mile run. And so before we talk about like the conduct of it, it's just amazing. I don't know how many I've done. I've done a bunch. I've never, ever not run like a decent first class, you know, at a minimum. But every day before the PFT, you're like worried that you're going to fail. Like you think like I'm going to fail, like I'm going to do terrible. And so even me, I'm like sleeping at the Hilton Garden Inn the night before and I'm waking up like every hour. Like I'm good every time I'm late to the PFT. I'm going to be late to the PFT. And then so I'm late to the PFT. I'm late to the PFT.

And then I'm, so, you know, I get up way too early. I get changed and I go to drive to base. I walk out and it's just pouring rain. And I'm like, of course. Oh no. Of course it is. And then you just have this like anxiety.

You go in, you have to like poop constantly. It's like, oh, should I go to the bathroom quick? And it's like, it's not that like, if I was here in Greenville, I'd be like, oh, I need to go out for a run i'll run three miles oh look there's pull-up bars i'll stop and do some pull-ups i'll do some planks after i mean that's how i trained for the pfd and it's like zero stress like when it's the event you're like oh man dude um and so i felt all that and then you know i was messaging jeff he was you know i was messaging him about the field and he's like oh you, you got your PFT?

I'm like, yeah. I would do well. And then I do completely fine. I won't say awesome. I ran a 24-minute three-mile, which is not great. But in terms of the Marines, my battery, I was like, definitely top third. And then you finish it. And so it's like all this stuff you know it starts at

6 a.m it's raining while we're doing chin-ups and then you know i get 20 and then it's plank time and i get 3 45 i run do whatever and it's like 6 40 in the morning and i'm like why did i lose sleep over this this is like the dumbest thing ever but it never ends but it happens yeah every time like any time there's uh yeah same thing when i run a pft or cft it's like the night before you wake up every hour on the hour to go oh okay okay i have five hours left to my life oh four hours and you're just like freaking out yeah and i've never been like oh i'm gonna fail that like i've never been in the place where like well it's gonna be pretty borderline out there, but yeah, it's like, I don't know what it is.

Yeah. Something about that PFT. But the closest I ever got to that was the Marine recruiters that would come to my high school and they would, they would try to, you know, bribe these young high school guys to recruit is the word. I mean, recruit, sorry. The, these young high school guys and say, uh, recruit is the word. I mean, recruit, sorry. The, uh, these young high school guys, um, and say, Hey, if you do a bunch of pull-ups and you meet our standard or whatever, we'll give you a nice t-shirt. It was, and it was a nice t-shirt and I just saw the t-shirt and I was like, that's nice. And so I remember just doing, I, it was like, uh, 75 pushups was one

of the challenge and they had to be good, you know, and, uh, you had to do 20 pull-ups was one of the challenge okay and they had to be good you know and you had to do 20 pull-ups yeah 20 pull-ups that was always the standard and i think it's just like roadmaps in my dna and they upped it like maybe three years ago four years ago yeah 23 until you turn 36 and then it becomes 20 so i'm 35 36 this year so like i did 20 yeah but i lost like whatever 12 points because you know i didn't just wait a year you'll be good wait is that right no that's right yeah yeah yeah oh so did you get a t-shirt i got the t-shirt yeah i'll have it no no no was it navy and then red letters said like United States Marines? Yeah, it was one of

those like athletic T-shirts with like the tech material. I can picture it. On the back, did it say pain is weakness leaving the body? No, it was pretty

plain. Just had the Marines little logo there. Yeah, they almost got me, but yeah. Well, that sums up Marine Corps training. Trey's going to listen to this and be like, you nerds.

I skip out one week and you guys talk about, oh, PFT is so hard. I was reading Warfighting, MCDP Tag 1. Let's talk about tempo. What's the next slide, Jeff? I could tap into some sports talk if you want i did a headline that i i saw right before hopping on here and this will tie into some of our other uh women's sports talk but caitlin clark it's on the verge of starting a 28 million dollar sponsorship deal with nike on top of her salesforce one huh oh salesforce yeah she did

salesforce um i don't know what the price was but she did salesforce and i saw it it was all over the interwebs because so what is she number 22 is that right i think she's number 22 anyway it doesn't really matter so it says indiana salesforce and then tim mcgraw was doing like a concert tour in indiana and wore that because he wears jerseys a lot and he wore that jersey and he i don't know what his workout program is or like what type of trt trend combo he's on that dude he's jacked. He's jacked. Yeah. When you see Tim McGraw, think of me if you know what I mean. A little Taylor Swift pop culture reference. Trey would have given me a point for that.

But yeah, he was jacked. So I saw that. Okay, so she did Nike on top of that. Yeah. Tim McGraw, look at this. Solid. Must be lifting that Strength Co. iron. He's got to be. Got to this. Solid. Must be lifting that Strength Co. iron. He's got to be. Got to be. Strength Co. TRT.

Seriously. It's on the store. That's the next drop. $69 a month. Nice. Okay, so Kalen Clark, big money. I still stand by last week's statement that I don't think I'll watch a WNBA

game, but that's why her, her salary, I think in the grand scheme of things, wasn't a big deal. What was it like five figures a year? Yeah. It worked out to like 80,

80 K a year or something like that. It's the point is like, yeah, that Nike deal. She's going to be doing fine. She'll be, she'll be okay. Joe Pappaliano probably already tweeted about it.

Oh, I bet he's gone deep on it. Yeah, deep takes. Let's see. Trey posted this one, but we'll talk about it even though he is absent today. He put an article in there talking about some of the changes to college football. I saw it went in, but I didn't read it. Tell me more. And so they're adding a two minute warning

at the end of each half oh interesting uh yeah which i was like wait isn't it in the first half i thought it was just second half is it both halves that and the nfl i had the same initial thought too so i don't i don't know maybe i'm just i don't know. Maybe I'm just, I don't know anything about anything. Maybe you're just getting old. Maybe. You need that ginkgo biloba supplement to help out with memory. Helmet communication. So like the NFL kind of like, you know, helmet comms and then tablets on the sideline. So do they not have that now?

I was surprised about the tablets one i guess it had been all like still pictures and like you know you see like the printouts that they yeah they used to have like in the nfl but now like each team is allotted like 18 tablets that they can like re-watch video clips on and stuff like that so yeah you know like when the tablets were banned well when you look at the sidelines, like someone will be holding like a poster board. It looks like fifth grade art class. Not that I ever went to school,

but it'll be like a picture of a mountain, like a grizzly bear, a fish, and like the sun's shining. And they'll be like, grizzly, whatever, sunshine. And then the people are like, oh, this combination for this play or whatever. Yeah. So now they're digitizing it.

Thanks, Jim Harbaugh. Thanks, Jim. Sign stealing. I think that makes. I mean. I can't believe that wasn't a rule already. Can't have that. Yeah.

I get like that. That surprised me, too. I was like, hmm. Just seems like way to go. But what is the point of the two-minute warning? Like, where does our... I wonder where that, like, originates from. It's just the timeout, right?

Yeah. I mean, well, the ads, right? When do people log in? End of games, if it's close, right? I was going to say, this is a money decision. I bet. Well, I just think that's a big part. But in terms of, like, playing the sport strategy, it's just a free timeout, right? Right I was going to say, this is a money decision. I bet. Well, I just think that's a big part, but in terms of like playing the sport strategy,

it's just a free time out. Right. Right. Yeah. But I wonder how it originated. Like, why did we need to warn people that there are two minutes left? Warn them.

Let them know. Warning. I don't know. Maybe it was like before, like there were like big clocks everywhere and people couldn't really know how much time was left in the game. So they were like, hey, you got two minutes. I'm like, oh, shit.

Oh, dang. It's almost over. Yeah. Let's talk about Pat McAfee, Bill Belichick. Okay. What are your thoughts? Okay. Okay.

Well, Jordy will like this. I've never liked Pat McAfee, and I don't really know why. He's an Indiana boy, but I've just never. I've just never. Okay, I tune in. He's like standing up, which is always kind of weird. He can stand up. Yeah, that is odd.

I know, but it's just always like, I'm like, why is he standing up? And he's like always in a tank top. And I've just never really. Rubs you the wrong way. Yeah, I don't know why though, because he shouldn't like he has Aaron Rodgers on who I wanted to run for president or vice president. So like, and then who's

the other guy in his show? AJ Hawk. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I've never like it's just always looked kind of like douchey when it's on. But now with Bill Belichick, I'm like, how is this even going to work? Yeah, I mean, maybe I like it, maybe I don't.

I mean, I thought Bill Belichick, as a coach, I loved his interaction with the media because he just shut them down. But he didn't say much, which like as a fan of the team that he was coaching, it was great. But as a sports commentator, I'm like, what's he going to say? I don't know what's going to happen to you.

Like, yeah, he's going to go. Or like, yeah, they're like, oh, the Cincinnati Bengals just drafted so-and-so. Like, what do you think, Bill? Like, that was an interesting pick. Yeah, exactly. That's what I kind of expected. Like, thanks, Bill.

All right, back to you, Pat. Like, check out my biceps. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I've just, like, watched clips of that show. And I feel like Pat McAfee, yeah, he's kind of got a douchey vibe to him. But he also does kind of get into that. He was in the NFL, so he kind of gets some insights.

And he relates to when the players are on. I feel like he gets them to say stuff that no one else would. I think I'm minority and wrong. I don't know why he rubs me wrong, but I do think I am not correct on this because, yes, he does get players to open up. It's just interesting because he's way younger than I thought.

How old do you think he is? 40. Yeah, I thought he was like 45. I think he's 37. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's younger than I like 45. I think he's 37. Uh, yeah. Yeah. He was younger than I think.

Do you think, do you think he's, is it that he's trying to focus a lot more on entertainment than actual commentary? Or is it, is it like a, it may be, I mean,

but I'm not like, I got really into Colin Coward, like, Oh, nine to 2012. And outside of that, like I've never been like, yes,

I'll leave a Gamecock game. We lost. I turned in the Gamecock radio network and I listened to like, you know, the guys talk about how we lost, but I've never been like, Oh, every day from 12 to three,

I listened to this thing. So I got, I listen to this thing. So I don't know that – I don't know that – I guess what I'm saying is I have an opinion of – is it McAfee or McAfee? McAfee. McAfee. I don't know that I have an opinion like he does this differently and I like it or dislike it because I just –

I've never really listened to it that way. I always just watch SportsCenter at night. I'm like, okay, I know what's going on now. The Bruins lost. I saw, yeah, we watched the end of that game. That was a bummer. Yeah, that was what they've been doing all season. Third period, let

points and can't score, but 1-1 against the Maple Leafs. Did the Dallas Stars win? They played after. Yeah. I forgot who won who won. I don't know. I saw there were a couple goals in the first period, but I didn't see how it ended up. Yeah,

that's my bedtime. Play off hockey. Yeah, after that after the Bruins game, I was like, all right, I'm done. What else you got there? Have a I mean, I think these will kind of like loop back into to marine drill stuff but could be independent of that if you want to talk about the new jersey turnpike i have no experience with it oh yeah maybe you've got some yeah and this is a warning

for uh jordy because his fiancee lives there so i I... Okay. So what's interesting about Jersey, South Jersey. So let's just talk about New Jersey in general. Well, you remember Herbert, right? Yep. Yeah. So Herbert is Jersey City, Jersey. And what's interesting is if you ask someone, they'll say,

well, the southern part identifies with Philly and the northern part identifies with New York. But I don't think that that's true for my limited two visits because like herbert jersey hates new york we're not new york we're new jersey but then he also hates like south jersey anyway the jersey culture is interesting i like it i like south jersey philly i like there. I'm like progressive city, not a fan. You go like 30 minutes North into South Jersey. And you're like,

wow, there's like Confederate flags, MAGA hats and farms everywhere. Like this is weird. And then there's like this, Hey, forget about it. You know,

like mentality. So anyway, I'm still learning that. And it's interesting, like all the Marines, cause in the reserves, like all the Marines are from that. Like, jeff drills with a bunch of texans yeah when i was in california i drilled with a bunch of texans via mexico um you know like it's

it's like very culturally relevant to most of the marines live within like 50 to 75 miles um so now it's like you know it's a bunch of jersey spirit which is fun uh but anyway i was leaving drill i've always like taken the back roads and like gone through the farmland to get to the base and fort dix is gigantic so like if you put in hey philly airport i'm leaving fort dix it'll say an hour and three minutes and the first 20 is like getting off of base and so i wanted to like try a burger i hadn't eaten all day i'd run my pft it was good for the year so i look up like best burgers in philly and like i find one that's like on the way perfectly to the airport and but i'm gonna take the turnpike so i leave drill i my wife, I'm on the phone with her and I'm using, I always use Google maps when I'm there only because like the base, the HTC address, like if you take Apple maps, like takes you to the wrong gate. maps but i'm leaving like a normal person so i put on apple max as i usually do and i get to the point where i'm gonna like get on the turnpike and it's like you know there's like six different

lanes trucks go over here buses go over here south's going this way north's going that way and i'm on the phone which i shouldn't have been and i'm like oh okay i gotta follow this line so i get on it's like 38 minutes to my burger. And I'm starving. It's like 1800. I'm starving. And as soon as it figures out which line I hopped on, it's like an hour and eight minutes. And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

And then you hit, there's no U-turn. You hit the thing, you grab the ticket, and it's like 15 miles this direction you can't exit you can't turn around you're trapped and so then i exit i pay the troll toll and then and then you can't just like oh you want to go the other way now turn around no you have to get on like this other interstate where you feel like go through these three town roads get on this other interstate go down four miles this way, and then re-enter again. And I was just like,

I'm not even mad about the troll toll cost. If you make a mistake on the turnpike, it's over. And luckily, my flight wasn't until like 9.30 or 45 p.m. So I was still going to be able to get my burger. The only reason the time matters is because I was starving. Yeah. But it was a 35 minute wrong turn.

Yeah. Yeah. So don't take the, or if you do just know, like. I've heard stories about this. Really? From the fiance. Yeah. Yeah.

She, she has warned me the, to avoid that or be smart about it. Well, the turnpike's nice. There's no traffic. You can drive really fast. It's not that expensive. smart about it well the turnpike's nice there's no traffic you can drive really fast it's not that it's complicated like it's tricky if you screw it up yes if you screw it up you're oh if you're a woman trying to get on the turnpike like it's over yeah it's over yeah that makes sense it's over well she she's been real big on there's a north jersey and a south jersey and if you if you even whisper the phrase Central Jersey, like you have a whole situation on your hands, a bad situation.

I think that's correct, actually. And here's the take is that, yes, you could point to the center of the map geographically on New Jersey, be like, there's a center, right? But culturally, there's kind of two cultures split into one inside of new jersey and even though that the north jersey people say no we're from jersey we're not new york i think my guess probably better if i just called her but my guess is if you ask them opinions on like their worldviews and their values and what they think about things they'd probably line up a lot with a new yorker and if you ask the south jersey people it's like they agree with like rural kentucky i don't know something

oh you're trying to make this political pj i see what you're doing here you brought up confederate flags and trump science first i said mega hats or maggots no i wasn't trying to be political but i didn't know this about new jersey when i heard that my fiance was from New Jersey, I pictured suburb New York City. Yeah, that's all I ever thought. But South Jersey has blown my mind. Yeah, it's different. Because it's country. It's country. It's rednecks. But they all talk

like, hey, get out of here. It's weird. You got a cattle farm, man. And then my dad was like, Dad, one thing I love about going to Jersey is it's like New England. Like there's Dunkin' Donuts at every turn. My dad's like, Jersey is not New England.

And I was like, no, I know it's not like New England, but like, you know, he goes, no, it's like not New England at all. I was like, my dad's usually not like defensive about this thing. He's like, okay, I got it. Jersey's not New England. When I told my uh very my rural

southern family that i was dating a girl from jersey they're like what and i was like no it's some south jersey they're like okay you know yeah they didn't know they didn't know i didn't supporting you yeah exactly what's the there's a whole like pork roll versus taylor ham thing and one is like oh yeah one's north's North Jersey. One's South Jersey. I think pork roll must be South. Cause I've seen those signs a bunch. Okay. I know that's a big,

that's a big deal. And they call it the shore. They're like the only state in the union that's calls the beach, the shore. Like you go down to the shore for the weekend. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

There's some food they have there. That's that's unique. Like my fiance was like, have you ever heard of a Panzerati? for the weekend. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. There's some food they have there. That's that's unique. Like, uh, my fiance was like, have you ever heard of a Panzerati? The hell's that? Maserati. I was like,

is that a motorcycle or something? I don't know. Yeah. It turns out it's expensive. It's like, it's like a fried calzone or something basically. And, uh,

yeah, there's a lot of foods there. They're like very particular and, uh, they're big about their hoagies. And, uh, but the most entertaining thing to me is the Delco accent. That's you get outside of Philly. It's like, yo, dude, can I get some hoagies? Like, it's like this weird, it's this weird, unique accent. That sounds ridiculous, but it's fun. Look it up. similar to like uh like uh oh i'm from baltimore like i feel like baltimore also has like they have a weird one yeah yeah baltimore it's a weird one but uh yeah there's nothing like a philly accent that thing is its own beast

do we have a uh trey's lifting amateur question didn't. There were not any questions in the Slack. Must not be lifting. He's learned it all. He's learned it all from coach. Yeah. How you're talking about being a generalist, you know, get his take on that. Oh, I tweeted something which PJ is alluding to where I just. So I ran, you know know I did my PFT

which I don't think was that amazing 20 pull-ups 3 minutes 45 plank 24 minute 3 mile the next day the Marines were doing a thousand pound club like some of them were doing it it was like maybe like 10 Marines so I went in there I couldn't stay for the whole thing so I went in there while they were squatting it was kind of like coaching the squat

I squat at 455 which of course like all the Marines are like, sir, how do you, uh, how do you like keep all your mobility? And I'm thinking I'm like the least mobile person in this battery. I was like,

what do you mean? They're like, well, we saw you did like 20 pull-ups and then you're like, you ran pretty fast. And then like you squat heavy. Like, how do you do all that?

And so I tweeted like on saturday i did this on sunday i squat 455 and today i just like squatted 315 for whatever you know specialization is for insects but i did i was thinking about it you know i have no desire to run an 18 minute three mile uh the marine corps my career will go just fine with me running a sub eight minute mile um at the same time they could care less what my deadlift is um but i like the way it looks unfortunate yeah it's unfortunate but i like the way i look i like the way i feel and like what i'm able to do if i have a big deadlift, at the same time, I don't want a 600-pound deadlift. I mean, I kind of do.

But I don't want a 700-pound deadlift. 585. Yeah, 585 is the only one. I'm kind of cool with whatever. And yeah, I was just thinking about it during my three-mile run because I'm running. I'm like, all right. I train three to four days a week, religiously, every week, not just when it's PFT season. And I do like one cardio session at least, sometimes two. And I'm not jacked and gigantic.

I'm not a shrimp. You know, I'm 220 pounds. You're not Tim McGraw. I'm not Tim McGraw. Yeah, none of us are. Yeah, I'm not Tim McGraw. I'm also not Eddie Hall. But like, man, this three mile run is like hard.

And then I squatted 455 the next day. I'm like, man, squatting 455 is hard. And yeah, anyway, GPP, what does that stand for? Was it general physical preparedness? Yeah, there's definitely like have a base of strength, but you need to be able to pop your heart. I think like entering the pain cave is actually what people miss for general physical preparedness. And what I mean is if you have a base of strength, you're prepared for a lot.

But when it comes to conditioning, most people are not ready to enter the pain cave. Most people are not ready to enter the pain cave, right? Like if I went in and did what felt decent for my three mile run, I probably would have ran 28 minutes. And I'd make the argument that if you can go out and run nine minute miles for three miles, like that's not the worst. Like that's, you know, by top 5% of the population or way even higher probably. Yeah.

And so this is bad for Grant, but me running, I don't know what my heart rate was, but it was exploding. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get to 24 minutes. And I think that's the thing that most people miss. If you're strong, you probably, unless you're huge and literally like Eddie Hall obese, but if you're strong, you can like huge and like literally like Eddie Hall obese,

but if you're like strong, like you can go out and run three miles in decent time, but you just have to know how to like enter a place that like is not fun. You do miss that with heavy lifting a little bit. Like the, the, that pain cave concept, like five by five squats are hard,

but that's different than like, I got to keep going and suffer for another 30 minutes you know it's two different caves yeah it's two different they're next to each other but they're different but it is different i mean it is so it's the same thing with the plank you know what i hate about the plank you know what i hate about the plank is if you fail the plank you are literally just giving up yeah like if you have any sort of physical capability you can plank for three minutes and 45 seconds and that's almost worse because you can only run so fast based off like your body weight your strength and your conditioning level like i would i would like to say i probably could have pushed it faster and gotten a 23 30 right but i couldn't have run in 18 minutes i couldn't just go oh i'm gonna enter this dark hole just try harder hang on

but the plank it's like just don't quit dude yeah dude it really is i severely injured myself doing a plank one time yeah like like bad for years and i think i tore something deep in my abdominal wall and i'll tell the quick story i hope my fiance is not listening to this but i uh i was dating this girl she was like a fitness trainer or whatever this is a long time ago and she was like hey come to my workout class it was an orange theory class right and there's like a week that was like a challenge week. And so every day they had like a different challenge, whether it was on the row or the running or the lifting or whatever. And I just happened to come in on the plank challenge. And so I walk in there, I'm a young male. I'm probably, how old am I? 20, 21, something like that. And so I walk in there and now the first thing I think,

which I think you guys would agree with is, well, I have to win the playing challenge. Like my girlfriend was there. I'm coming to try this class. I'm like, Oh, I got to win this. And so like Grant said, I'm just like, all right, I'm just not going to quit until I'm going to, I'm going to disrupt the class to the point where i'm not gonna quit and so they're playing and playing this music or whatever and they're just going and i think it was me and like two other people who were just like holding on and we were just like staring at each other just just trying to get into each other's soul you know and uh i ended up doing a nine minute plank whoa nine i did a nine minute plank you definitely damaged something yeah oh my god i did a nine minute plank whoa nine i did a nine minute plank you definitely damaged something

yeah oh my god i did a nine minute plank and so i don't know how that was sheer will will wait did you win i won that's the best part of the story so i i set out to win and i won that thing oh my but for i probably for two or three years, especially the first year. Oh, jeez. I had like, whenever I would do any kind of physical activity, I had like a deep shooting sharp pain in one spot in my abdominal wall, like bad to the point where it's like every time I tried to lift, which I was an avid lifter, not like a good lifter, but like I would go to the gym like five days a week.

And to the point where I was like, I couldn't do a workout like without severe pain. And it got to the point where I was like, okay, I'm going to try to do one pushup and see if I can make it through this. I did one pushup and I was okay. I had to build it up from literally a pushup to being able to lift again. And I finally rehabbed it like two years later. But the point of the story is i won yes no i believe that you did something because i did the plank so i last week we were in california so i ran i think a total of seven times between not running and doing the pft and uh and one of them was i did i ran twice we were in california i was like i should train the plank i'm like i don't want to train the plank like it's the worst i just gotta it's the worst to train

like it's the worst i'm like i'll just i'll just wait actually i trained it so i trained it on the newport beach pier and i cut my elbow open oops it's like still scabbed up but anyway so i did i think two and a half minutes. And outside of that, I didn't prep for it at all. So then I did 345 and the next day, like every time I laughed, I was like, oh, my abs. Dude, I couldn't move

for like three days after that. The best part of the story, though, is that she ended up breaking up with me. That's the funny punchline, too. I was like, because you held it too long. I held it too long. That's the funny punchline too. She's like, you're blank. You held it too long. I held it too long. Like this guy's a psycho,

like an actual psychopath. Feature, not bug. Yeah, exactly. Oh man. Never doing that again though. That was horrible. Do you know the world record for blank? Probably.

26 minutes. Oh. What do you think it is, Jordy? The world record. Oh no, I know this. I remember when this happened. No, isn't it like an hour?y? The world record. No, no, I know this. I remember when this happened. No, isn't it like an hour? Isn't it like hours? No, it's like a day.

It's something crazy. It's somewhere between, your guess is, nine hours, 38 minutes, and 47 seconds. Yeah. I remember it's like a dude did it in like a wife beater or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it came back a few years ago. That's legendary.

That's insane like do you go to the bathroom like yeah i guess i don't know wear a diaper i don't know he'd make a great marine oh i'll tell you what that's right promote that man hell yeah brother promote above peers oh my gosh what else we got there on the docket we hit energy drinks listed in there i don't know if that also then ties back into that definitely ties into marine training yeah definitely a little celsius did i did i type that yeah yeah yeah but yeah no i was just talking about well i think jordy drinks like eight a day so i gotta be careful i want to say but what's your what's your go-to careful i want to say but what's your what's your go-to celsius oh i'll down to celsius yeah max i'll do is two in a day because i feel like that's pushing it but i try to stick to one okay

marine you have love monster how many milligrams of caffeine is in that i have no idea because celsius is 200 it's it's up there and i i drink coffee i drink coffee all day it's just amazing to me marines 86 so it's like a cup of coffee what's the type in monster bfc yeah i don't even know what that is we can't say it on this podcast, but it's big something can. Oh, it's double. So 160 for a 16 out can. So Celsius has more than that. Yeah, Celsius is dangerous. It's 200.

It'll get you buzzing. Yeah, it's just amazing. I guess the sugar then also in a Monster. Because isn't Celsius like zero sugar? Yeah, it's like, oh, it's fit. You know, it's healthy. Yeah, yeah. There's no healthy energy healthy 160 is serious though

and how many there how many of those marines drinking a day i don't know i'm in the dream it's just amazing to me that they're all walking around with energy drinks and um you know i probably drink too much coffee but i always justify with like it's water and it's a bean that is grown from the ground that is roasted And the water is made hot and poured over said ground bean. And like, how bad for you can it be? Is there too much? Can there be too much? I don't think so.

The only way there's too much is if you're drinking where it disrupts your sleep. But if I'm not sleeping much because I've been stressed out about the PFT, I'll just drink coffee all night long. But I just forgot about energy drink culture and i i don't think it's necessarily marines i think it's like generational for sure that everyone just like houses energy drinks and and i have a feeling about it i'm like oh man come on devil dog like why are you drinking all these energy drinks like just get some coffee get some coffee they're like oh yeah it's a generational thing boy every

teenage boy in america right now is having like three a day like for sure yes i believe that is monster still even popular yeah oh yeah yeah it's huge yeah Yeah, Monster's big. And never left. I like, if I am getting like an energy drink, I like Rain. I think the Rain Orange Dreamsicle one is good. That's up there. I think that's like 200 milligrams or something. Yeah, those are pretty beefy. My go-to is always the Rockstar Orange Zero. Wow.

That's a good one. That's what I like. What a take. But now I like the one that. That's what I like. What a take. But now I like the one that has creatine. I don't really drink them. Oh, the C4. No, not C4. Oh.

What's the brand? I mean, C4 may have it too. Rain does. Bang does. Bang, bang. Bang. I just like the name. Those are harder to find now.

I feel like they used to be everywhere. And then I think they got like... It's like Four Loc yeah i think they got the illegal ones or the new ones yeah yeah i think bang got like sued for like false advertisement with like with the super creatine or something like that it was something one of the ingredients they were touting like that's what i need i think like monster or one of the other energy drinks I think like monster or one of the other energy drinks was like hey

that's not actually a thing I'm either a Celsius or a Red Bull guy myself Red Bull's solid and one of those little cans is like 80 milligrams it's like this isn't even bad yeah yeah

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I mean, I have a good airport story, but I'm guessing yours is about DFW. Yeah. A little bit. Well, it's a little more generalizing that there's just certain airport, I don't know, but quirks for people. My favorite one is you're at the gate. They start to board the flight and then everyone just starts like lining up or just like milling around the gate where you like go in and it's like,

Oh yeah. But they're in zone 27, but they're like, I gotta be ready. I gotta be ready to get to my assigned seat. And I guess it really is like, they just want an overhead baggage spot, but like,

just like the people that love to just hover around the gate. And then your zone gets called and you're not sure who is in the line and who's not in the line. And yeah. Right. And you're like, well, I'm zone one.

So I want to go to the front right now, but I can't tell if you're waiting to go to the front or just standing awkwardly close. I had an interesting experience in Philadelphia. So I made it off the New Jersey Turnpike. Thank God. I ate a burger. I went. I turned on my rental card.

And the second, maybe third time in my life, the second time recently flying in and out of Philly, and I realized that I'm Terminal B. So I'm like, all right, I still have two hours to kill. I have a bunch of work due, like see if I can find a lounge, whatever. So I park at terminal B. And I noticed as we passed terminal A that terminal B is like very close. And so I go to terminal B, I get out, I go to the top and the line is like I go to the top and the line is like 4,000 bajillion people long and I'm pre-check.

So I go to like the side where there's a TSA guy. I'm like, Hey, like I'm pre-check. Where's the pre-check line? He's like, Oh, pre-check's closed here today.

It's all one line. I was like, Oh, okay. And I'm like, uh, the line's really long. Is it open in a,

he's like, yeah, but it's kind of cold outside and it's far. And I was like, I just rode by it in a bus. It's not that far and it's not that cold. I'm like, so it's open in A. He's like, yeah, it's open in A.

So I'm like, all right, I'm just going to walk back out, walk down to A and go. So I walk down to A. I go, it's closed in A. And they're like, it's open in Terminal C. And now I'm like well i'm not asking another tsa agent for advice on the weather uh in the distance and i walk all the way down to c and i get to see not a soul there like pre-checks wide open and there's this woman in

front of me she's like walking fast with a bag i'm walking fast with my bag like when you hit where the pre-check line is uh it's like you know a stupid maze and there's like no one in the maze it's like wide open like either her or i whoever beats the next person there will be the first one to see the tsa agent and so she starts like lifting up you know the line separators and i'm like i kind of dig this lady like she's like this is stupid why would i walk like this but i'm walking like this like a like a muppet and then the tsa agent's like hey hey stop you're gonna knock it over you're not and she knocks one of them over she picks it up i'm still going through the maze and she gets there and i'm like oh this woman's gonna be like ready to go and she gets there and stops and is like unzipping backpacks,

finding wallets, like all. And I'm like, lady, you need an ID card and a boarding pass thing. And you just knocked over like all of the maze, like, and now you're not even ready.

And I'm thinking the TSA agents can be so pissed and I'm going to walk up after and I'm going to say something. It's going to be funny. And so finally she gets the stuff and I'm waiting behind herSA agent's going to be so pissed. And I'm going to walk up after her. And I'm going to say something that's going to be funny. And so finally, she gets the stuff. And I'm waiting behind her after going through the maze. And the TSA agent's like, where'd you get your necklace? To the lady. She's like, oh, I got it on Amazon.

She's like, oh, really? What is it? And they start talking about it. I'm like, are you kidding me? You just bulldozed through the whole line. Couldn't find your id i'm waiting now i need to walk back down to terminal a but yeah airport people are the worst they're the worst people philly airport in particular i've had only bad experiences there

i mean i like philly airport much better than dfw maybe yeah that's funny yeah so yeah coming back to utah getting the pre-check line and like i feel like dallas fort worth is like the only place where i've seen like the pre-check line be very long and like sometimes even slower than the regular line how is that possible i i don't know but so i get in this line and it's like moving decently fast and then like as i kind of get closer to where the tsa like agent is there were probably like seven to eight different people that got turned back because they weren't pre-checked pre-check and it's like you walk through you have to walk through basically which essentially like a little like archway that one person can walk

through there's a bunch of signs they're like like, this is TSA pre-check. And it's like seven to eight people got like turned around and were like, wait, I thought like, can you just let me through? And they're like, no, you're not pre-check.

And like, they then try to like convince them and they're like, yeah. So it was, it was a good time. DFW. Love DFW. Hmm.

We got any topics left? Yeah. And the only thing on rental cars was like oh right you get a amex platinum like the for the insurance the well the insurance and then the like automatic like top tier uh like rental car status so i like can book the lowest priced hertz rental car and then you go to the president's circle like lot and it's all really nice car so it's so do you hurts every time yeah i probably shout out tom brady shout out tom brady hurts yeah i've always done this enterprise because they'll pick you up yeah they'll pick you up and there's always like a Shout out Tom Brady hurts. Yeah, I've always done Enterprise because... They'll pick you up. Yeah, they'll pick you up. And there's always like a fresh 22-year-old college grad.

Oh, hey, Mr. Brogy, how's it going? I just graduated Texas Tech or whatever. But I was thinking about switching off Enterprise because I always did them because I did them. There's a time when I rented a bunch of cars for the Marine Corps. Oh, yeah. But like under my name. And so I was like top status with Enterprise. But that's kind of like worn off because now it's like you rent a car like once a month.

Yeah. Yeah. And I have the Amex Platinum. So maybe it's time for Hertz. Oh, yeah. I would recommend it. Potential sponsor. Potential sponsor. Hertz. Amex Platinum, so maybe it's time for Hertz. Oh, yeah. I would recommend it. Potential sponsor? Potential sponsor, Hertz, Amex Platinum, and Tom Brady.

We'll take Enterprise if they want to. Yeah, Tom Brady. Yeah, they'll pick us up. Yeah. Yeah. TB12. TB12. Well, exciting sports coming up.

Playoff hockey underway. NBA playoffs underway if your team's in it's kind of fun now but my general thing if your team's not in which both of mine are it picks up like in about two weeks like once you get through the first round i think both of those become really fun um college baseball is you know hitting the tournaments here soon uh getting exciting but most of all make sure you watch the okay podcast and trey's not here to do his thing we miss you trey did you listen to this uh i got a 10x gunfighter above my head just for you we'll see if he actually watches it on YouTube ever that doesn't really work with headphones

but I'll just balance it there oh that's great but Jeff or Jordy who wants to sign us off on what to do I feel like Jordy's gonna do a great job yeah I feel like we'd never let him do it so uh all right take us away PJ all right here we go here we go thank you all for listening to the Yeah, I feel like we'd never let him do it. So take us away, PJ.

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