The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 2: Lifting PR's, College Football, Liver King & Humvee Golf

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Waffle House, Bitcoin ETF Scandal 04:53 - Carnivore and Training Update 12:14 - Food is Political 15:04 - Episode 1 Numbers 18:10 - PR’s at Different Training Levels 23:50 - What Is An Advanced Lifter? 26:17 - What It Means To Be A Lifter 33:16 - Tres and Jeff Intro 36:00 - College Football 43:34 - Tres and Jeff Lifting Update 45:26 - What Makes A Good Squat Rack 49:50 - Jack White 51:50 - Smog and Squalls 55:12 - Crying and Movies 55:53 - Carnivore Update Part 2 58:05 - Crazy Fly Fishing Story 01:06:26 - Barely Passing Land Nav 01:13:07 - Humvee Golf Course Story 01:15:57 - Organ Meat and Meeting Liver King 01:21:37 - Movies 01:24:09 - Texas A&M Story 01:28:58 - Music and Squat Songs 01:30:06 - Pregnant Rihanna 01:32:26 - Parting Thoughts

Welcome to episode two of the OK podcast. This is Jordy, the producer, aka PJ. This is a great episode. When starting a new podcast, you expect technical difficulties. And we had our first technical difficulty with Zoom while recording and lost about the first 10 minutes of audio. But the show must go on. So at first, you will hear audio from our camera while we talk about Waffle House, some

drama in the crypto world, and some of Grant's carnivore update. If you want to skip to where the nice audio comes in again, scroll to about 10 minutes into the episode and you'll be good to go. We'll fix the audio issues next week and I hope you enjoy. All right, and welcome back to episode two of the Okay Podcast. I'm your host, Grant Brogy. We're coming to you live from the soaking, wet, rainy upstate of the great state of South Carolina. You know, I got trapped in Waffle House this morning because of that. Did you really? Yeah, we were about to leave and we look out the window. We had a scenic view by the window

that seats in the house. And then we look up and the sky just falls. And it was dumping rain. And I was like, no, I'm not walking out in that. So another coffee and we're good. If I want to be stuck somewhere, it's Waffle House. Amen. It's Waffle House. 20 people talk to me in Waffle House.

It's like the friendliest restaurant. Yeah, well, until there's a fight behind it. It's extreme. It's one or the other. Yeah, one or the other. Today is January 9th in the year of our Lord, 2024. there's a fight behind it's extreme it's one of the other one of the other uh today is january 9th in the year of our lord 2024 uh exactly one week from episode one which we'll talk about here in a second the current price of bitcoin is 45,664 dollars and 60 cents as of right now but

i gotta say i don't know if it was from X or where, but we did pick up some crypto nerds. Thank you. We like crypto nerds. We are crypto nerds. And they said we needed to say the block height, Jordy. All right. Yeah. The crypto nerds went deep on this one. So the current block height is 825,073. So that's where we are on the eternal blockchain. You can't erase that. That's on the chain. Written in history.

It's there forever. Actually, before we talk about episode one, why don't you just give us 60 seconds for the Bitcoin nerds of what happened today. Yeah, there's a lot. Because everyone was excited, and then they weren't excited, and then it was fake,

and then it was real. Let me tell you, I had a rollerco coaster of a day. All right, hit it. And then I want to hear about this carnival update. Sure. So for those of you who've been following, I assume I'm talking to the crypto nerds. For you non-crypto nerds, I'll make this quick.

There's been a lot of anticipation for the spot Bitcoin ETF to be approved in the United States. Okay. Okay. It sounds fancy, but that just basically just means you can go into Fidelity and buy Bitcoin. I like that. You can go into your brokerage account just buy it as opposed to like, remember this phrase and use your cold storage and you know, blah, blah, blah. Right. So yeah, I don't do any of that. No, me neither. I lost mine in the voting accident. So, um, but anyway, the punchline being is the belief is that

that will be the green light and the door that a lot more money can come into crypto and to Bitcoin. Cause now it's just like, Oh, click, click. I can just buy it here. You know, uh, financial advisors can now recommend this to their clients without getting fired. And they can just add an allocation to their brokerage account. It's a great thing. You got BlackRock coming in and they never lose. So, you know, they're going to be, uh, having fun in the crypto world. But anyway, it was fake. It was, don't give away the punchline. So it was expected to be approved tomorrow. And then out of nowhere, we get a tweet, no a post on X from the SEC saying that all the Bitcoin spot ETFs are approved. Everyone freaks

out. Everyone's excited. And then 10 minutes later, Gary Gensler, the chair of SEC is like, just kidding. My account was hacked. My account was quote unquote hacked and nothing's been approved. Everyone chill. That was my paraphrase. That was good. And then 10 minutes later, he somehow immediately regained control of the SEC account. That was apparently unhacked like instantly. That's how hacking works. So everyone was excited and then it was fake and the price dumped a little bit on the news so that people kind of showed their hand a little bit. But now no one knows what's going on because there's a lot of conspiracies about, hey,

was this like a fake market manipulation? Was it really a hack? Who hacked it? Was the first SEC hacked or was the Gary G ginsler post hacked you don't know who knows which one was hacked and uh it's needless to say it's always exciting in the world of crypto so we were just going to start each show with telling you what the price was and now you get that instead but that's okay and for the college football fans here that weren't included last night because there was no sec football team in play.

It's a different SEC. We're not talking about the Southeastern Conference. But anyway, enough of that. We'll move on to what's next. And I guess what's next is we'll give you a little training slash carnivore update. So I'm on day nine of the carnivore diet. I feel like last week didn't even really count. I was on day two or three, day two. And so really anything I said last week was probably the carnivore flu talking. You know, none of it was true. Now I'm an expert. Nine days in, I know everything there is to know about eating nothing but venison, beef, chicken, salmon,

tuna, and what's that? And eggs. And eggs. Yeah. So I'm the expert. But in all seriousness, for those that are interested, last week's training was fine, but I didn't feel great. Basically, I was just really tired kind of all week, but I powered through. I powered through. I went to the gym. Interestingly enough, what I was supposed to do lifting-wise went fine. So even though I didn't feel great going into the sessions, I felt a little lethargic. What was supposed to move, moved. But this Monday, yesterday, I felt pretty good. I'm not doing anything crazy. I'm kind of starting a new cycle on my training. So I'm ramping up my five by fives. Right now I'm doing five by five squats on Mondays with about three minutes rest. So not

super heavy. I did 365 kind of no problem and then pressed afterwards. I'm going to deadlift tomorrow. But I do feel like it took me about a week to get somewhat acclimated. And, you know, they say religion, politics, I mean, a third, a close third, probably because it includes the first two, is your diet. Because all of a sudden, everyone is super concerned. Grant, what about carbohydrates? Grant, what about vegetables? Rip's going to be mad at you. You're not going to make any progress. You won't be strong if you eat carnivore diet only.

This is stupid. You're going to be pooping. Everyone's so obsessed with my poop. I've never had so many people ask me about my poop. I'm on the carnivore diet. What's your bowel movement like? It's fine, by the way. But we'll talk about that because I know the guys want to talk about that later. We'll talk about that when they get on later. But yeah, in the short of it, it's been fine. It has been an adjustment. Like I said, we had 20 guys, actually, I think it's 18 males, two females doing this along with us. And everyone experienced about the same thing.

That first five to seven days, lethargic, sluggish, and it's just your body adapting to getting off of carbohydrates, using carbohydrates as a form of energy, having glycogen readily available, and transitioning to using fat. One thing we did kind of all find is if you were feeling really sluggish or low on energy to up the fat, which for me is a really weird concept. I don't want to say I avoid butter or lard, but I don't usually dump butter and lard and ghee and beef tallow on everything that I eat. And I indeed have found that I need to do that in order to get enough fat. So calories wise, according to Grant Bott in our Slack channel, who's our chat GPT app, I just ask him every day, hey, I had this, this, this, and that. But I've been eating somewhere around 25 to 2,800 calories a day. Um, seems to feel pretty good. I started at two 26, which was a little heavy for me.

Um, but you know, when you're going into a diet or something extreme, you're like past the, past the pie, give me more cake. So it was a little bit on the heavier side. And this morning I was two 17, I've been two 17 for about two to three days. So I lost some weight quickly. And then I kind of upped the fat content and it seems to be stabilizing. I do think I got to give you a venison update. You know, I said last week, you know, I killed that deer and that venison still tastes like the forest. But if you put two to three tablespoons of beef tallow in venison you are now eating beef uh i'm convinced you can't tell the difference and that's with salt and pepper only um that's with salt and pepper only so um yeah that's kind of where we're at uh day 15 so six days from now

i'm gonna start adding in some dairy some milk i think and back down the butter a little bit um i've had a little bit of cheese hard cheese not much but my wife is doing keto with me this month and so if she's cooking like last night she made bison patties and covered them in extra sharp um what's the brand telamonundo, Telerud. Sounds right. Yeah. Some kind of fancy cheese. It was on sale at Publix. But yeah, so she had that on there. So I had some cheese. So I've had some cheese here and there, which again, everyone worried about my bowels tells me cheese is the glue. And then they put like six poop emojis so that I get the joke that they think I have diarrhea. But yeah, so that hasn't happened to me. And out of the sample size of 19 to 20 people, I think it's maybe happened to two,

maybe three guys. And it's both been for like a day or two. No one's had it chronically, which is interesting. So I don't know. So Joe Rogan was wrong. I mean, so one thing that is interesting about this, I think going into carnivore is what are you eating prior to this? So my protein consumption is already really high. I'm eating red meats. I'm eating fish. I'm eating seafood. I'm eating a lot, a very high protein diet. What I'm usually not eating is the excess fats because I have carbohydrates, but I don't have a ton of carbohydrates. I mean, I would say I'm low-ish carb. I have rice, I have sweet potatoes,

but I mostly follow kind of Stan Efferding's vertical diet-ish, something along those lines. So I think the greater the adjustment is, the bigger the impact people have. So I don't know what Rogan was eating before. Maybe he was on the Portnoy diet and just eating a pizza a day. I don't know. Maybe it was drugs.

I don't know. Maybe it was drugs. Maybe he's on some gear. He does have that funky-looking belly. But I don't know. That's Rogan's business. Maybe he just wanted to say, you're going to have a, what do you call it? Rocket. Rocket fuel. Rocket fuel coming out of your butthole. Maybe he just wanted to say that. It's funny.

I got to say it because he said it and it might be worth it. So yeah. I don't know. I'm not going to say it's fake news, but you know. But the journey continues. The journey continues real quick update. You know, you talked about how, you know, politics and what was it? Religion and diet. They're all at the same time. Right. You know, you know people are calling foods politic like political parties now. Oh, like if you're vegan, well like particular foods.

So like there was a funny Instagram post, I can send it to you. And she was and she was just like this girl was like all right i'm going to show you different foods i'm going to tell you which if they're liberal or conservative why don't you why don't you test me okay the first one oatly like oat milk like in the can liberal yeah totally uh raw milk republican there you go isn't that weird though because i feel like growing up the crunchy granola people that you know didn't want to give pesticides to their, well, it's all different now. Yeah. I mean, I was drinking the milk where the cows were shot up with whatever that hormone was. And that's why I mean, my brothers were all like six, three, but anyway, then you got beyond burger liberal. Then you got steak Republican conservative, excuse me, conservative conservative and then those words are not interchangeable

you got like a green kale smoothie liberal yep black coffee conservative yep a parfait this is too easy a parfait yeah right as I say it's too easy I'm gonna go left I think I think she went left yeah um like a full saturated fat eggs and bacon breakfast. Oh, conservative. Yep. Almost done. Crisco.

Conservative. Oh, now they, she put that as liberal. Well, it's a, it's like a Southern Democrat. Okay.

It's like, it's a Southern Democrat right there. That's, that's not full on. So that's like, like you can't make conservative and republican the same word you can't make democrat and liberal the same word this that was a nuanced take hey there you go only the nuance takes here um just raw butter raw butter uh conservative yeah and then she has like

this blue like blueberry flavored with a captain crunch logo maple syrup uh crazy just because it's like because it's blue yeah raw honey conservative yeah and then oh the just egg my favorite just egg i've never heard of this it's like it drives me crazy it's called just egg it comes in a bottle it's all yellow and it's like oh you know you know how you get like the pre scrambled eggs at the store? Yes. You know what I mean? It's that, but it's not just egg. It's all fake egg. It's like a vegan egg substitute that you could scramble.

Okay. So it's... So it's liberal. It's liberal, cause it's vegan. Cause it's vegan. Cause it's fake. Why is it called just egg? I don't know. Cause there's no eggs in it. There's no eggs. So basically let me get this right.

If it's from the ground or animals yes it tends to have conservative values and if it's synthetic and highly processed i don't know i don't know i think that's the the we were 12 minutes in and we've talked about bitcoin and left and right wing foods there's no way we're gonna get any views on this episode are you kidding me i would only listen to that which takes me to episode one uh which we should talk about so uh trey and jeff who'll join us here shortly i i realized in episode one i never told you his real name is trey it's uh robert gotlitch the third in the south or in that place they call texas they'll often call that third person trip or tray, meaning like the third in Texas, they say tray because trace. So his name's tray, but it's spelled T R E S. So we call them trust. But anyway, when I, when we were going to launch episode one, I said, Hey, what do you think the

over or under is or over under is on listens, downloads, views, whatever you want to call it. For episode one and trace at 30. And Jeff said over and I put the over under at 300. And I think I had a lot of faith in you guys. And so I'll say thanks. As of the start of the show, we had 125 views on our new YouTube channel, the okay Podcast. So please go find that on YouTube if you're listening. It's at The OK Podcast. And give us a subscribe. We picked up some subscribers there as well. And then on Anchor, which we're using, which I think is

Spotify, Apple Podcast, and Overcast. I think there's a three route there on, we had 160 math in public, 160 plus one 25. That's two 85. So two 85. So I feel like the over, I'm like Vegas. I get the odds right. Every time I'm not looking forward to talking about this college football national championship, but 15 under not bad. And, and, and I think, so it's Tuesday, the next one comes out Friday. So we're going to bust, we're going to bust the over big time. Um, so I just want to say, thanks. Uh, there's been folks that have asked me to make a podcast for a while.

They didn't know I was going to bring on my two buddies and PJ, but, uh, we did. And, um, so thanks for listening and tuning in we hope each episode gets better uh quality wise hopefully the sound was okay we did have a few zoom technical difficulties that we think we fixed some of the audio clipping there so hopefully that's better this week there's some position improvement as we say in the marine Corps happening at the gun positions there in Texas and Utah. So hopefully that is a little bit better, but we appreciate you tuning in. Tell your friends, subscribe on all the platforms, like them, leave a comment. So far, only positives. Only positives. Only positives. And also, if you have any questions or you want us to talk

about something or cover something or have interesting comments leave a comment shoot them over let us know is it is it the okay podcast at gmail.com i think it is let me don't check that comment on the youtube comment on the youtube channel that works as we always it's the okay cast at gmail.com the okaycastgmail.com you can send one there you can comment on the youtube channel uh you can comment on x which is where everyone cares about my carnivore diet um i do want to cover a little bit today um all-time prs versus where you're at currently in your training and i bring this up because in line with myself going carnivore, a lot of the questions I get is, are you going to get stronger? If you can get stronger on this diet, then maybe it's a good thing.

Or there's no way you'll get stronger during this period. And so I'm going to talk to those that have been training a little while beyond the novice phase. So if you are just getting started in your training, obviously you're going to get stronger. Obviously you're going to get stronger. If you've been, um, if you're just getting started and you're going to add five pounds, stress recovery, adaptation is going to occur. And to be quite frank, if you're a rank beginner, it doesn't matter what you're eating. You could be eating beyond burgers. You're if there's calories going in, you're going to get stronger. Okay. But then as you ride that bell curve, or as you ride that curve, not a bell curve, as you ride that curve up, uh, the stronger you get, the harder it is going to be to get stronger. And once you ride that up and you get

your squat up and you get your squat up and you get your press up and you get your deadlift up and your bench. When you try to add weight to those lifts, you're going to have to think about it more. And you're going to have to segment your year a little bit. You're going to have to have training cycles where you're trying to PR maybe all the lifts if you're a new intermediate, or if you're a more advanced intermediate, and I'm not saying advanced lifter because I don't consider myself an advanced lifter. I consider myself a chronic intermediate lifter. But you're going to have to break up and try to focus on certain PRs. And so the reason I bring that up is people say, well, do you expect to get stronger? And the answer to that is no. I expect to hopefully PR something

mainly just so I can let the naysayers know. But I don't expect to get a whole lot stronger. And the reason is, last year, I didn't miss a day of training, but my training was all over the place just due to my schedule. Like I talked about a little bit last week, I didn't miss a day of training, but my training was all over the place just due to my schedule. Like I talked about a little bit last week, I moved. My schedule was a little crazy. I was doing one lift a day sometimes. And I was in a maintenance mode. And again, in a maintenance mode, you're always trying to get stronger.

But I was surviving. I was keeping weight on the bar, not letting it come off. But I wasn't on an upward trajectory. I think, you know, it just wasn't the year. So now I'm training hard again. So you have to look at when people ask me, are you going to get stronger on this diet? Am I going to get stronger than I've been recently? My best press is 265 pounds in competition in 2018. Since then, the most I've pressed in 2023, I did this, I pressed 245. So 20 pounds off. So do I expect to be 265 during this one month of carnivore diet? Absolutely not. My best squat is 515. I did it at the end of 22. I missed 520 last year. I think I doubled

500 at the end of like a nice five solid weeks of training I had. So when you think about these numbers, you have to think about where you were when you hit them. Were you on the end of a long trajectory of good training as an intermediate? And so for me, if I hit some certain metrics on this carnivore diet, I have enough data in my log books that I can look back and say, hey, this was good progress considering I was eating zero carbohydrates. But I may not PR every single lift and I probably won't. The only lift I think I'm maybe in the running of PRing is my bench press. My PR is 375. I did 370 last year for two singles, which was good. I probably should have hit it that day, gone for 377 and a half, but I'd already done the one single. So I just did another

one there. But just something to think about and you should think about it, whether you're going through a cut or if you're just evaluating a training cycle. If you trained hard last year, January through April, and then you were erratic, and then you got serious in November, December, and maybe you ran some type of eight-week, 12-week program, you hired a coach, whatever, and you didn't PR your lifts that you'd done earlier in the year, that doesn't mean the program doesn't work. It doesn't mean that the coach is stupid. It doesn't mean that you didn't work hard. It just means that you're in a different area as an intermediate lifter. And so I hope I get stronger in all these lifts. I'm going to train really hard. I would like to,

but I'm not comparing it to my all-time best stuff. I'm comparing it to recent stuff. And so when we do the breakdown video at the end, YouTube style, we'll talk about it here as well. But I'll put all those metrics up. Hey, here's my all-time best here's the best i did in 2023 and here's the best i did in january of 2024 while doing the carnivore diet so i just wanted to to toss that out there as people ask me uh it's too much to to tweet back at people um but yeah anyway carnivore gets a lot of uh gets a lot of a lot of chatting from people yeah that was one of the most talked about parts of the uh the podcast people like that I do have a question for you and I think I saw a couple questions like this and I'm sure other people are wondering this

you mentioned you casually threw in that you are not an advanced lifter yeah and to me to my ears that's surprising because I would think you were obviously advanced. Yeah. So why do you call yourself a chronic intermediate and not an advanced? Because now I don't even know what advanced means apparently. Yeah. So what I would say is that, so a novice is by definition, someone that makes progress session to session. And then an intermediate is someone that makes progress week to week, you could say, or maybe every two to three weeks. And an advanced lifter is someone that's following a training plan, maybe throughout the course of the year, that peaks a few times. And maybe they PR one or two

lifts. Once I know I just talked about a second ago, but what I would say is you're an advanced lifter when this is what you do. And I know that this is what I do for a living. And I talk about lifting, but I mean, you're spending two hours in the weight room, three to four days a week. Everything is dialed in 12 months a year so that every programming variable matters a bunch. And I'm just not there. I rarely want to spend more than 75 minutes in the gym. And I do my best with eating all year long. But I definitely make mistakes. I'll forget to eat. I'll overeat. So it's not all dialed in. So I think the advanced lifter is where all of these variables are dialed in to hit a PR a few times a year. So by definition,

novice daily progress doesn't mean that every day your squat is going to go up, but it means has squatted Monday. And then I squatted again Wednesday and I squatted more. I got stronger in 48 hours intermediate weekly but even on an intermediate program you might be making weekly progress but they might be in fives and you know not where your highest singles or doubles have been or something like that and i just found so much joy from people last week saying you're an intermediate lifter that now i just i want to i'm the people's lifter. I got a bond to the, to the everyday person there and say, I'm an intermediate, just like you. I have setbacks just like you. Uh, but that's actually really true. I mean, it's not, um, everything's

not linear and that's where you see if you made a lifter or not, you know, um, people come into the gym, people join our online services, and they train for two or three months where the progress is linear. And they love it. And they're telling their friends about it. And they're showing their numbers to their wives. Hey, look at this. She doesn't care, by the way. And they're showing all of this stuff. And then as soon as it gets real hard, like, you know what? No, I can't stay up and watch three more episodes of Reacher because I need more sleep. You know what? I do have to pound this protein shake right now, even though I don't want to because I

need more protein. You know what? I can't eat that crap or drink that because I care about my training. Hey, you know what? I just did my first set of five and i really don't want to do four more sets of this because that was awful um that's where the lifter's born the guy that sucks it up and does it anyway um and so you know when it's not linear that's when it's um that's when it's interesting and that's when you get the mental benefits and you learn a lot about yourself

you know going into the gym and doing stuff you don't want to do you know diana was brought this up um this week about my mother so my mother started training in october of 2019 so she's really uh i guess we're coming up on five years wow yeah and so my mom was two days a week. She does two lifts a day, sometimes three, most of the time, two lifts a day. And every time, she's a great supporter. She's got her garage gym decked out and strength code gear. She tweets her lifts on X. She's actually an inspiration to a lot of people. A lot of people tell me they started lifting because of my mom or because of the article I wrote on how to get your parents to lift or the youtube video on that i thought a lot of people are looking for that because this side note as parents age or people you care about age you want to help them you want

to stop that and lifting can stop that but they have to do it but i say all that to say diana commented to me she said i don't know how your mom just goes out in the garage by herself two days a week and just does grindy six to eight second deadlift singles you know and then back off sets of five where rep three looks like it's glued to the floor and you know grinds out a heavy squat single my mom hates squatting but she does. I say she hates it. Meaning, uh, she gets the least enjoyment out of that lift. She's always frustrated with it. You know, her depth, where's her knees at. Um, but she goes out there every time. And my dad too, and my dad too. But I think it's just interesting because they're lifters and that's all, that's a classification. You earn that title. I mean, there are people that I train and I say, yep,

that guy's a lifter. And there are other people that I train and I love them dearly and I'm trying to get them there. But it's something that changes in here and you decide that your training is important enough that you will prioritize it. Does it mean that you eat, sleep, eat, breathe, and sleep lifting? Not always. Like I just said with me, you know, the things that happen. But like I also said, I didn't miss a training session last year and I'm not going to miss one this year. And I don't think I've met. I think the only time I missed him was when I had a fever.

Another video that makes people mad. The only time you don't train is when you have a fever that popped off again today on Instagram. This is terrible advice. This guy's an idiot. What does he know? If you have a herniated disc go home and lay in the bed um so because that's what you meant by that video that's what I meant yeah what I meant

is if you break your back and you don't have a fever go squat that was the point of the video obviously yeah obviously so um so some encouragement to you on this Friday, hopefully you've just finished up some training or maybe you have one more day tomorrow on Saturday as you listen. But become a lifter, become a lifter, take it serious, train three days a week and earn that, earn that title. I mean, you can see it by the way people post stuff you know you can see it i offer free form feedback checks whatever on x if you go on x you want your squat looked at your deadlift if you'll put some skin in the game and publicly tweet it or post it post it on x i'll break it down for you and uh and i can tell right away and and sometimes it's ignorance. People don't know what heart is. And that's part of the process of becoming a lifter.

But I can tell right away, you know, this guy's like, I'm stuck. Look at the squat. And I go, you're not stuck. You just think you're stuck. You just don't know any better. And so then you lead the horse to water and we want you to guzzle. We want you to hydrate with that water. Don't just let it sit there and look at your reflection. You know what is weird? and we want you to guzzle. We want you to hydrate with that water.

Don't just let it sit there and look at your reflection. You know what is weird? I've noticed, I mean, I'm not saying that I'm an advanced, you know, all-time lifter, but I'm concerned to myself. But you're what, three years in? I'm three years in. Oh, you're a lifter. Yeah, I feel like I'm a lifter. I will say some things you learn, I've been deemed-

Should I get the saber down? We'll make a separate video. So I will say there's some things you figure out like form or you know how to tweak things or you just get better at lifting over time but there's some things you don't learn and one of the things that's interesting to me is i can never tell how fast my reps are so you go down in the squat and you're on rep three out of five and it barely goes and you're fighting and you're like man that was the slowest rep of my life and then four and five continue to be even slower and you look back on the video you're like man that

must have been a grind yeah and it flies right up and you're like okay well everything's fake so i mean this is this is a lot of people have gotten really strong using rp but here we go i'm not i'm not gonna even unpack it if you want me to unpack my thoughts in this you'll have to comment this week and leave a five-star review on Spotify. But it always seems way harder than it is. It always seems way harder. You pull rep one of a deadlift. Rep one's a liar.

You're like, there's no way. And then all of a sudden, you're on rep five. So what you perceive is not reality. It never goes the other way. It never like oh this feels really easy and then it just stops and you fail right it's always the other way it never really feels really easy that's the thing is it never does if you've been training it never feels easy uh but that's that's that so that's the update on carnivore on my training on whether or not you've earned the title of lifter some tidbits about mom an extensive Bitcoin update to keep the bit coiners here but it's time to go into the second installment phase

segment whatever you want to call it session uh leave this area and invite the other two guys here so let's let in trey and jeff okay i feel like i've been in here for forever yeah i will no. No technological difficulties on the OK Podcast. Never. Never. Never. Our plan survives first contact. Sure.

Who said that? Abe Lincoln. Abe Lincoln. Abe Lincoln. Indeed. I see you're working your T-Labs BAP over there. That's right. The position is slightly better.

We got Jack White over here. Records. Trey's plaque that he tried to discard from 511 oh it's still proudly i proudly displayed on my wall this is quote um got a liverpool scarf and some books what's trey's quote uh worst logistics officer ever i mean you really were nice i appreciate that title is the placo i see you really i love there's so much i love about that plaque i've never just the tray stuff but like the launchers are like definitely too close to each other to be firing one's shooting rippers like one's facing straight ahead the fdc is like 10 meters from the firing launcher you can see like a trash bag like hanging off of the humvee door if you like really look at it i mean i think that all

passes the joy reg yeah at least you know how many you know marine corps that is i have never in until then had to make my own going away gift and then write my own NAM. And then submit them both. And it got rejected. Oh. I guess you're a bad logistics officer and writer. Yeah. I don't write good.

And to be clear, Trey is not a logistics officer. He was an artillery officer. But those field grades always know their LTs really well. And so, you know, the worst logistics officer ever. So before we get into the topics today, we already went over a little bit, but would you guys remember what I put the over under on for listens of episode one? I thought we said 30 or was that Jeff's over under? You said I put it. No, you said I put it. I thought Trey said 30. No, that was Jeff. Yeah.

I said 30 even. I multiplied it by 10 and said 300. And as of going into recording here 45 minutes ago or so, we were at 285. And we have until Friday to pass 300 300 so lots of listeners lots of people wanting to know um what's going on I cleared up your name I realized I never let people know that your name is not Tress and it's Trey but I've been called worse yeah the world now knows um so I think we gotta talk like I gotta eat some crow to start out I think we got to talk like I got to eat some crow to start out. I think we talk national championship, right?

Let's get into it. All right, Trey, why don't you read off our, our picks? Cause we forgot to do them on the show last week. Yeah. Go back and edit that in. Yeah. Black though. We have a, we have a date timestamp.

PJ, can you pull the block height from last Tuesday at 1027 p.m. Eastern time? I'll do my best. Let me see. I'm embarrassed. I was very proud of this if I can find it. You're close. I got mine right here. I got it. I got it right here. You ready?

We'll do Grant first. Grant, Washington 42, Michigan 38. Jeff, Washington, 42, Michigan, 38. Jeff, Washington, 38, Michigan, 35. Trey, Michigan, 35, Washington, 17. What was the final score? Was it 34-13? 34-13.

I feel like it. So there's a reason that Jeff and Grant in the show notes description are listed as college football fans, and you're listed as a crazy college football fan. Yeah. There's a difference. I was really pulling that they would go for two on their last touchdown. Yeah.

And that somehow Michigan would also get two safeties in the last four minutes. I don't know. Just get it perfect. Just get it perfect, yeah. What happened to Penix? I think he got hurt. I mean, I know he got hurt towards the end, but I mean, he was missing

balls. He was tough. I think he got hurt sooner. I think it was – he didn't look right half the game. Yeah, that was – Yeah. Yeah, that was really – Like, throws he was making all year.

Like, he – like, and then he just couldn't – he couldn't buy one. Guys were dropping stuff. The whole team was just off. That defense wasn't, though. Oh, my gosh. They were trying to keep him in the game. Oh, man, they were trying to oh man they were trying i mean they were in the game into the fourth quarter yeah it was still a shot i mean it didn't

they never looked like they were mounting a comeback but it was still within reach yeah is it i was looking at the stats they had washington's rushing yards let me see if I can pull it up. It was like 55 total through the whole game. They just were not running the ball at all, which I don't know. I haven't really watched too much of them all year, so that just might be their MO. Were those the two best teams in college

football? No. Georgia. I mean, Georgia beat both of those teams. Yeah, 100%. football could have picked his favorite players from each team and Georgia still would have beat them. Yeah, I was not impressed with Michigan even winning that game.

I was like, oh, like... Their defense is good. The second half, they didn't do anything. But plays were there and just drop passes, pennix missing throws that he was making all year. I don't know. Quarterback meditated.

Yeah. We're good there. We are pro meditation around here. Yeah. So I don't know. I think Georgia was, could have beat both of them, but I guess Portnoy's happy.

He's probably very happy. Barstool sports people are happy. Did he win a million bucks or did he put a million bucks on Michigan? I never know. He put some big bet. He put so many bets down that I'm pretty sure he's in the hole in his own personal betting. He's just on

the up and up from Barstool sports. College football, over. Harbabaugh gonna go to the nfl oh i think i assume he's gonna be gone probably i i don't know by the end of this month he hadn't signed the contract yet so nfl interesting oh yeah i think he's definitely i've heard charters and raiders okay interesting i just saw something that was like talking about kirby smart I think he's definitely... I've heard Chargers and Raiders. Interesting. I just saw something that was talking about Kirby Smart at least listening to an offer from the Atlanta Falcons. I was like, ooh, I would not.

Did you see the Falcons guy going off at the end of the game? Yeah. That was pretty good. Do you watch the NFL, Trey, or just you stop at college? No, I watch some of the NFL or just you stop at college no i watched some of the nfl i'm not like fanatic about it end of the falcons game who are they playing the saints saints wins yeah quarterback so uh it's on the one yard line and it's time to like they can

kneel the ball victory formation and they hand it to the running back and score a touchdown. They lose like 48 to 13 or 17. What's the Atlanta coach's name? Arthur something? Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith just comes running up to DA as the initials for the Saints. That's all I remember. He comes running

up to him and he's like, F-U, F-U, F-U. Why'd you have to do that? They interview Winston in the locker room. He's like, man like man it was a team decision we wanted to give such and such a touchdown what did jimmy johnson say you don't want to celebrate and don't want us in the end zone that's right that's right yeah i thought abraham lincoln said that that's true yeah yeah jimmy johnson quoting abraham lincoln yeah Well, before we leave pro sports, what do we think? Billy B getting the can? That's ridiculous.

I mean, that's what I hope not. I hope not. I hope not. The fact that he hasn't yet tells me he's conceding. I guess the problem was, you know, they wanted to take over more personnel stuff, like hire a GM because he's always done both jobs. The fact that he's still there, I think they're going to keep him.

But yeah, I watched that game. I was hoping in case it was his last game that they'd beat the Jets. You always want to beat the Jets 15 in a row over the Jets. Abysmal game. And then I was doing some work. And so I just turned on 98.5 Sports Hub, Boston Sports Radio. Hey, this is Dave from Dierksbury. I just want to say I know it was cold outside for this game,

but there was not enough Patriots fans there, and they never put Bill Belichick up on the board, and that guy gave us six championships, and the fact that we weren't sold out there, I mean, I thought we were better than that, Pats Nation. That's all. Hang up and listen. For like two hours, and I loved it. Not a single person was like, fire Belichick. That's all. I'll hang up and listen. For like two hours and I loved it.

Not a single person was like, fire Belichick! That's so great. If he got fired, he'd have a job in the next half hour. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And if Rabel got fired from Tennessee, there's some underground Patriots talk that... Oh, yeah.

That could be interesting. I hope they keep him. I do, too. Hopefully, yeah. That could be interesting. I hope they keep him. I do, too. Hopefully, yeah. I just wanted to retire out of there and not get fired. What was her record? Four and 13. Are they first pick in the draft? Second.

Dude, there's so many good quarterbacks. Is the quarterback the issue? I haven't watched him. Yeah, Mac Jones was pathetic all season. Bailey Zappi had some moments where he looks like a quarterback. He definitely looks more poised. Jones just looked like lost.

Jones looked like 0802 second lieutenant being made the battalion logistics officer. Hey, resupply the battalion. And then make your own plaque. And then make your own plaque.

Tray, can we get, since you identify as an amateur lifter, can we get an amateur lifter update? Yeah, I got my fives back today. That's nice. Okay. No, I did, what is it? I did, what got my fives back today. That's nice. Okay. I did 185 today on squat. I'm still kind of taking it easy until

I don't know. I don't trust the knee yet. Okay. Did you do 180 last time or are you just perpetually doing 185? Are you trying to jump? I did 135 last time and it felt good. Then I tried bumping it up. I probably should have bumped up to jump? I did 135 that last time, and it felt good. So then I tried bumping it up.

I probably should have bumped up to 180. I feel like it's a large jump, but it felt good. It still felt good. Just take five-pound jumps from there. There you go. I'll probably just do that. Did 225 on the bench. Okay.

It's manageable. And then the gym I was at because i'm in okc there's nowhere for me to do a deadlift was the bench press bar like a fix to the machine it was uh it would it would have been like fr upon, I think. Okay. Were the plates like an octagon? Yeah. Oh, literally the worst place to do it. It was like a lifetime fitness.

Yeah. Do we have a body weight update, Jordy? I think this morning I was still 182. Get that boy some milk. Give him some today. Yeah, I drank this morning. Give him some more. i drove yeah this morning give me some more we should turn turn the camera around if there's not an ivy of whole milk in that boy right into your bank i told him we'll put a camera on him when he's 200 pounds oh that's good incentive i like that

until then no camera victim weight victim weight We can't have victims on camera. Trey, you did want to ask me about your squat rack. Well, I texted you. I think it was a while back when I first got this squat rack. I think I was texting you like, hey, how's my form? And you go, is that squat rack made in China? I think it was a direct quote from... It was your response. Yeah, he goes, you need... That checks out. You need an American squat rack.

So, I do. I am in the market for a new one. The issue I have with mine is they're not... What makes a good squat rack? It's not the size of an F-250 like yours. Why is it

nine feet long? Or are you in five camera mode? I got it for like 200 bucks. Yeah. So I was happy with that. My biggest beef with your squat rack is the separation between uprights

that hold the bar. It looks like, well, well one they're slanted upward which can be a pain and then it looks like you're like three or four inches so if you're if you're if your height is perfect where you can get into there not tiptoe stand up step it back walk it in then you're good but i don't like um your upright situation but what i would say, one, I can honestly say this and clearly say this and not feel bad about saying this now that we don't make squat racks anymore.

But to any equipment, the key is to use what you have until you're like, hey, I'm here three times a week. And now this squat rack really ticks me off. I'm going to upgrade. That's what I tell you. But it sounds like you've been getting your fives back.

Yeah. It looks like I'm going to tell you. But it sounds like you've been getting your fives back. Yeah. It looks like it. Trying to. Yeah, Squirrel looks like I robbed an LA Fitness and just put it in my garage. It's not great. It is not. Get your job done.

I'm going to sell you the squat stand that, well, Grant sold it to you and then you sold it to me. I can sell it back to you. And then maybe in two years you sell it back to Grant. Ooh. It's like a circular squat stand. Squat rack that PJ owns. I don't even have it right now. Yeah, but you still own it. Yeah, I still own it.

It's out on loan. Yeah, that's a good... It's made by a company that I can't name, but it's a good squat stand. It's the exact same one that Jeff has. It's good. It was mine. It is good. Yeah.

I sold it to Trey. No, I sold it to Trey. Trey, yeah. Did you? Trey probably gave it to Jeff. I sold it to him for 300 bucks. Which one is... No, I think it's...

I bought it. Well, I didn't buy it for 300 bucks. I know that. But I do think I did buy it. It was a good deal. I think you bought me sushi. And then I just like, but I didn't think I did buy it. It was good. It was a good deal. I think, I think you bought me sushi and then I just like, yeah, that's fair.

That probably sounds right. Yeah. It was a fire sale. I think you were, you were EAS and, and going back to Texas. So you were just like, I don't want to take this.

I don't need this. You can eat sushi though. So it was really, really good deal. Yeah. Um, all right. Well,

yeah, I think, uh, when you're ready for a squat rack i don't know there's a lot of options i like four post a lot of options four post k two inches or less between spacing throughout i like pins more than straps some people like strap safeties i'm just i like the pins and then you just get into the answer of the question of, do you own your house? Right. Well, the bank does, but yeah.

Well, you make payments to the bank. I make payments to eventually on my house. Yeah. 2072 you'll own the house. Yeah, exactly. No, but you just comes down to, do I want to drill this thing into the concrete or not? And you can drill like that far into concrete. Everyone thinks like they're going to drill in the concrete and like hit oil. I guess you are in Texas.

Maybe in Texas. Maybe. That's what he's hoping for. Okay. Put a bunch of squat racks in your garage. I thought one of them was going to get oil. Yeah. Well, but so it just depends on the foundation for how the squat

rack is aligned if there's like a base down there like the one that had the cross beam and stuff so it's pretty stable not drilled into um whereas a lot of them now the the four posts they need need lag bolts but that'd be a a major question uh so yeah that's that that wraps up the squat rack okay okay did you see uh jack white back there oh i'm not right oh there he is that is that when he was making couches yeah he's he's upholstering a couch in that in that picture it's like he's upholstering a couch in that picture. It's like he's upholstering a couch. I didn't know they made couches in the shape of guitars. That's right. Guitar-shaped couch.

For the longest time, Grant would always say that, and I thought he was joking about Jack White. And then I read that somewhere that he used to do that. I'm like, oh, Grant was being serious. I thought it was just Grant being Grant. And what does that mean? I thought it was just Grant being Grant. And what does that mean? I thought it was one of our usual riffs. Yeah.

No, the best part was Jeff told me that, that he's like, so before the White Stripes and Little Debbie and everything, there was one was called the Raconteurs. And then before that was the dead weathers is that right correct before that 1996 it was somebody else i forgot but before that he was making upholstery but he was making vinyls and he's putting the vinyls in upholstery i believe jeff because jeff has never told a lie in his life. True. I just ran with that. And then one night I was on duty and I just started like searching blogs.

I don't remember this. Way too much information. I bought like a record on eBay for like $200. That was like a one release or something. And then I would just make up. I would make the stories more interesting. Yeah. Yes.

It's fair. So as Grant would tell a story and then somehow it just always end up with like, and then I cut open the couch cushion and I pulled out a white stripes record. Jack White had a handwritten note on there and said, Hey Grant, and like knew you were going to find this.

That's why 17. That's why I was like, that can't be real. How's the smog in Utah, Jeff? Not bad. We've had some snow roll through. So now we've got snow on the foothills, snow down in the valley. So usually when any sort of like storm rolls through, it clears out the air.

And then I don't know if it's still doing it now i can't really see out the window but we just had like a snow squall roll through um pretty high winds kaylee was talking about how like the it was hailing but then also like so hail's coming down but like snow's coming sideways and it was super windy as she was driving home. That's a squall? Yeah, like high wind, usually like a really bad storm. Oh, I don't know the exact definition. Not like a squaw, like a native American.

No, no, no. Like a squall. When I think squall, I think windy. Windy. Like really windy. I don't know why how's it spelled s-q-u-a-l-l squall can you read the information pj we got a definition coming up i've never heard my life is it because i'm homeschooled or is it because of the region I was raised in? Okay, here we go. A squall is a sudden sharp increase in wind speed lasting minutes as opposed to a wind gust, which lasts only for seconds. Sustained high winds.

Yeah. Out of nowhere. Ah, so basically it's artillery. Yeah, that sounds about right. Okay. Thanks, Goody Google. Appreciate that. basically it's artillery yeah that sounds about right okay thanks goody google appreciate that uh what brings you yeah so air quality is good right now it's good good so you did you you flew your matt balloon this morning and yeah yeah i got i got updated matt i'll push it uh via my fateds okay yeah don't worry you could expect to take on

the jpegs or something like that yeah yeah yeah yeah i spent like that 18 months or whatever at anglico and then nine months in the ir whatever was 10 months and then came back and there was like all these terms and i'm like wait a minute i can't 10 years we use the exact same equipment like oe 254 like vietnam era stuff i'm gone for like two years from artillery and i come back and they're like oh that's gonna be uploaded into the wisdom of blue and this one will go to the wakamahu and i was like what is happening so my favorite is we'd be like prepping to go to the field and that we'd be, we'd be up in the conference room, like talking about it.

And then it was like, everyone was in there. And then someone would use an acronym and then like grants in the back and grant would be like, what does that mean? And then the person would be like, I don't know. I wasn't trying to do a gotcha moment. I just, you were just, between. And the truth of the matter is, I wasn't trying to do a gotcha moment. No, you were just, you had no idea. I don't know. I would like to know what you're

talking about. A homeschool deficiency, or is this a boot deficiency? Oh, no one here knows what that word means. No one has any idea. Classic military. Classic. Why don't you get over there on the topic list Jeff

did you cry this week at all watching movies I don't think I don't think I watched any movies that was the that was the play right there just don't watch movies no movie no cry that's my favorite who sings that uh bob marley yeah bob marley no movie no cry yeah i'm out of the movie right now yeah there's anyone i'm gonna

cry decide if it if it looks okay i don't know i don't really know bob marley, but a carnivore update. How's it going? So, uh, it's going on. We talked a little bit. Why I had said there that I was going to save a lot of it for you guys. I talked to him. I mainly just talked to how everyone has an opinion, uh, what it is that you, uh, eat now. Like, I mean, it's just like, everyone's like out to get me but everyone wants

to care everyone wants to know about my poop like all they want to know about is my poop what about your poop how's your poop you must be pooping all the time so many poop emojis i couldn't sleep i was thinking about that the other night i was thinking about your doorbell and you were thinking about my poop yeah maybe that's what jack white meant oh Oh my gosh. The poop song. It could be, but, uh, pretty, I'm pretty regular. I'm holding steady at like 217 pounds. So I'm like, uh, seven pounds down. I think I'm on the other side of the keto fog and I don't think I'll ever eat vegetables again. Really? I'm just kidding. I was about to say, I vegetables again really college are too good but now I feel pretty good good yeah I want to go about hard cheese hard cheese yeah

I so I didn't think Diana would ever listen to episode one and I'll ask you in a second if your wives listened. And then she was like, I listened to the OK podcast. And I was like, oh, you did? What'd you say? I laughed so hard when you asked what hard cheese was and Trace when you throw it at him and it hurts. I thought it was a good joke.

It was really good. That's a great definition of hard cheese. Also domestic abuse, but you had something on that. No, I was going to say, isn't it kind of true though? Yeah, abuse, but you have something on that. No, I was going to say, isn't it kind of true though? Yeah, I think if you throw hardly, yeah, if you throw I feel it's a good test. It works. Flop

cheese to the face, nothing hard cheese. That's hard. What's a cheese expert called? A cheesemonger? Is that what it is? Cheese expert. I think so. It's like a it's like a sommelier, but for cheese. It's a cheesemonger is that what it is cheese expert uh i think so it's like a it's like a sommelier but for cheese it's a cheese bonger right just call that a curd nerd what was the laugh i was like oh yeah jeff's laugh no it's the old man

oh man i can give you guys an old man fishing. Wait, Trey, have you been fishing since last week? No. I don't want to talk about it. You haven't caught anything. No, I actually haven't been fishing. And it's a sore subject. I've talked about it a lot. Yeah. Well, I was supposed to go today,

but it poured rain. We have like monsoons here in Greenville. Is it a squall? It was not a squall. It was just heavy rain. Jordy got trapped into a waffle house. I did. And somehow left under 200 pounds. Oh, disappointing. I know. That's a great place to get trapped.

Smothered and covered. Yes. About 10 cups of coffee. Should have been 10 bowls of grits. Killing waffles. Killing waffles. Okay. So I was supposed to go today. Couldn't go today because of the rain.

But I've been in the market for waiters because I want to go by myself because I feel like I need to go by myself and mess it all up so that when I go with a guide again, I'll know what to focus on. So I'm going up to North Carolina this weekend. I got some spots picked out. So I was like, all right, I need waiters. So I met my guy at this fly fishing shop. We go in there and it's a typical fly fishing shop. I mean, not that I've been in a lot. Like, I think I've been in like three in my life. But OK, typical like we sell high end things. But if you buy them, we're kind of mad because now we got to restock the shelves

that. OK, yeah. Sounds like a fly shop. Yeah. So I'm in there and, you know, he's got ones that he's like, all right, these are the Orvis Clearwater's. Now, this is a good starting. This is a good starting waiter right here is $250.

It's going to cost a little bit, but you get this. I don't think you're going to be real hard on equipment. You don't follow around all the time. Big diesel kind of guy. And he's like, y'all got these in an extra large. Now this dude's got a big foot. And the guys are like, oh, I guess we'll go find an XL. So I go find an XL.

I put it on the lip. Pick your foot up now. Pick your foot up. It's too small. And I'm like, I mean, it feels like a size. It's not supposed to feel like a sock. What if you got a wool sock up under there? Okay.

Too small. So he's like, I need bigger. And they're like, well, it's got to be the Grundon's then. And he's like, man, he's like immediately. And he he doesn't make the guy doesn't make anything off this he's just like trying out we said man him grinders are 700 bucks but I'll tell you what the grunt is that's where it's at I mean that's why I got it out of grunt is for six years that's where it's at right there I mean let's try him on a scene it's I try him on too small trying the on the Smith's too small. So he's like, Hey, Hey,

can y'all call Smith's or Grunin and see if you can get custom booty size 14. And they're like, Oh, you want me to call somebody? Like we don't want to make any money. And so they're like, Orvis definitely doesn't do custom. And I'm like, okay. So then, so then he's like, well, don't worry. We'll get them on order and you can just borrow mine extras this weekend. I was like, so then, so then he's like, well, don't worry, we'll get them on order. And you can just borrow mine extras this weekend. I was like, well, if I'm going to borrow, shouldn't we just shop around?

It doesn't seem like these guys are that into that. He's like, no, let's just see what they come back with. So they come back and the grunt is, it's $200 upcharge for the custom booties. So it's $950 for a pair of waders. My thoughts exactly. And so I'm just like, man, and then I'm already got to buy flies. I got to buy a net. Like I, like I, I got some stuff my brother gave me and I have my rod,

but I don't have much. And I'm like, I can't walk. Like I'm too terrible at this to be dropping 1500 that I don't have. So I'm not going to do that. So anyway, I'm like kind of thinking and he's like kind of arguing with the people, some guy walks in and he like goes like the fly room. He sits down a box and he like comes around the corner. He's like got some reels and they're like, Oh, Hey Brian, like, how's your dad? He's like, ah, he's finally done fishing.

I wanted to see if you guys could help me sell these reels. So he hands some old reels and they're all like, Oh, look at this. This was a 1984, you know, I love the way that sounds, you know doing all their little fly fishing sounds and then he's like yeah my dad's a big guy he's 81 now he's like i don't suppose you ever get anybody in here that needs a size 14 do you no way yes and like i look at john and he like looks at me and I'm like, I need a size 14 meant to be. So he'd been arguing when we went to get the boots, he wanted me to have a felt bottom. And they only sold the boots where like the bottoms were replaceable,

like studded or rubber or felt. And he's like, no, I want to like thick felt like the Davidson. Like that's what you need. And this guy pulls out a pair of Danners. They look like Marine Corps boots. They're size 14. They're probably like 15 years old. The felt on them is perfect. And I'm like, I try them on, I put a booty on, I try them on, they fit perfect. And I'm like, and he's like, you gotta get those, man. You gotta get those. So I'm like, how's 50 bucks. He's like, yeah, sure. Done. He's like, actually I got some waiters and stuff if you

want to come take a look we pulled out a pair of size 14 Smith waiters I put them on they fit perfect I'm like do they leak and they look like brand new uh and he's like I mean he's like I didn't put them on jumping the reedy that's the river here he's like but uh i don't think so he's like if they do no siri got mad whoa yes yeah new guest siri uh reedy siri i guess it's all the same um anyway long story longer try them on they fit and i'm like what else you got in the tub he's like oh just other like stuff i was like how about I just give you 150 for all of it? And he's like, done. So I Venmo. And John's like, man, you don't believe in God. You best believe in him now. And I said, John, I do believe in God. Do you? He goes, if it weren't for Jesus, I wouldn't be in this fly shop right now. So then we go and we buy all the stuff. We go outside. He's like, man, well, I can't believe you found size 14. Like we were supposed to come here this morning,

but they didn't want to make any money. So they didn't open till two because of rain. I mean, what a great day. People could be tying flies. and when we do come, you get a set of 14s. Anyway, that's what I got. Amazing. A miracle. What do Patagonia waiters cost? I think their top-end ones are like

$799. That dumb. But dude, if you want... I'd have to look at the the sizing on the booties i don't know what they go up to but um we could we could hook it up you would you would not pay that for i mean oh yeah no i was just i was just curious if you know it was out to lunch in general but it kind of made sense to me like, Oh, these are the high end waiters,

six, 700 bucks. Like that seems like what it would cost to do this. What makes that, what makes a high end waiter? It doesn't get, you don't get wet. Is that it?

It also, a lot of it's like durability, like the, and just like kind of like features that are like built into it and get a lot of like just durability stuff so you can go like super low end yeah just yeah what he said not when it's cold what he said was that like he would have grundens and smiths for like his guide service except that like you know he's got to have every size or multiple sizes. So then he'd have like 15 grand, I don't know, tied up in waiters. So he usually does the Orvis Clearwaters.

But then he's like, if you go cheaper than that, he's like, new people are always falling over. They've never walked through the woods before. They're going through briars and the rip... So it's like a tossup of where you want to be. Night land nav. Night land nav. Yeah, it's exactly like night land nav. He was like, you're really good at walking through the woods. I was like, Quantico, Virginia.

Too much time there. Jeff had a red box. True story. I was so bad at land nav. Same. too much time there jeff had a red box i was so bad at lane enough same did you fail do you ever pass the only one that i needed too the only one that mattered yeah you know i lost my card right yeah wait did you pass them yeah so you remember how like remember how they were, don't write on your scorecard, put that in like seven layers of Ziploc bags and keep it on your body and do it like on another card. And then, because like, you might get wet or you might, you know, whatever, when you get there, then you can transfer your answers over.

So I got like a piece of right in the rain, like stuck in my flack and I'm like running through the woods and i'm like six for six out of the first six boxes um yes and like boom i'm like running and like i find box seven and i go to like write down the code on it and i look down so i'm like sprinting backtracking right like Just running all around trying to find it for 35 minutes. And then I can't find it. So I'm like, well, I got to go for the next three. So I just tried to remember. I think right away, I tried to remember. I was like, whatever. EDD, F2-6, whatever. I write them down. So then I go and I go to do it. And O'Connell, now Lieutenant Colonel O'Connell, Captain O'Connell at the time, is like, Brogy, did you copy someone's answers?

And I'm like, no, sir. He's like, I know you didn't cheat. He's like, but you have all the right answers here, but they're just in the wrong order. And so I got whatever the minimum was. What was it? Seven out of ten or 70 whatever that i had just yeah i don't remember and then i told him later and he was like you dumb ass i was like you're such a rock eater um but i passed oh hey it's better me man i did

box to box on the final and it was i think I think I had my longest one was like two, it was like a kilometer and a half. It was something like that. It was like far away. And then before they started, they said, don't go over the razor wire. And I'm sitting there like halfway through count my steps.

This is like eight foot fence with razor wire on top comes out, rip my pants, like all the way down the side, hop over, found the box, and then I get to the finish line and there's another guy with ripped pants and I go, yeah, stay strong, brother.

Stay strong. You found that fence too, huh? Jeff, do you have a 30-second synopsis of what land nav is? I think PJ's a little lost. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is every Marine Corps officer gets their, through the crucible of the highland hills of Quantico,

really dense woods, rolling terrain, and they place these little red ammo you know those green metal engineer stakes and they give you a card and a starting point and then they're like okay go find your boxes you have compass eight hours to go or something like that and so you're just off running around trying to find boxes in the woods and who was more difficult to find than others i think we were all about this i never failed one but i think we were all about trace says he was the worst at it the worst i met jeff at a land nap box ah so there's a big rule where you're not allowed to talk to anybody because they're worried about cheating and so i'm looking for this box he's looking for this box and so

basically you're like okay i need to head this direction for you know 140 paces or something like if you're in thick woods you can't just like take trails so like you'll take trails like okay now that i'm here and whatever yeah so i'm like walking and i'm like okay it should be here but it's not here so like well i'm headed this direction like i'll run that way because you're on a time thing so i'm like running and like as i'm running there's like someone else like running and there's like this like gully and like down to the bottom of the gullies, the box and like we're running and like I see it and like, I don't know, maybe Jeff saw it. I don't know. But like we both like the box and like we looked up. It's probably like a scene from like Lord of the Stars. We're like Bilbo and it's like a romantic comedy.

Yeah. Yeah. Use the force. Yeah. But we looked at each other and it wanted to be like hell yeah brother we found it you can't say anything we're both like just like took off on opposite directions of the woods then we got to when we got assigned to fort so together i was like oh you're the guy from the red box all red true story and then you started a podcast okay and then we started a podcast so i do gotta say it was pretty funny uh i don't know well i know trey has a huge social media presence but everyone was uh just messaging anytime i posted to me all caps. Okay. That's how I read it. Catching on.

Well, I think people's natural reaction is like, okay. Or I don't know the only way I know how to say it. Um, it's gotta be, that's not true. I was looking for B roll for Geordie the other day and I was going through

some starting strength footage and I was like going to like the start of the deadlift. Ripta is like all right Okay All right. Okay. We're gonna start over here and I was like, oh we gotta pull some of those Okay sound bites and just like like some in When we when we hit a big and we have like, you know high production we have like sound effects I'll have rip a toast. Okay, right there, right? Is you know high production we have like sound effects i'll have ripitos okay right there right that's right is this not high production board it's like this is like you know

high up there in the nlp i feel like this is a real podcast okay it's real yeah this ain't no chinese squat rack what if i got a i got a lot in a microphone hey you're looking good i appreciate it man that's all you Yeah, position is improved. Did you guys tip off the old Lizaraga trained text thread about this or did they just find it through natural occurrences? Just found it through natural occurrences.

I thought that was great. I don't even like those. I figured you put it up there. I mean, it's awesome. I put it on the medias. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got a group of 10 of us that were all lieutenants together. And we have a thread we're on.

And it's just a wild thread. And immediately, people were like, Jeff needs to shave. Trey, tell him about steel on steel in the backyard. Yeah. And just a bunch of random stories. Viral. Yeah. Well, Trey, I think it's time for a funny Marine story of the week.

You got one. You got one. Dude, I got, I think I'm writing a book on. Okay. Well, I got enough. Chapter one. Here we go. We'll do Humvee golf course.

Okay. Just showed up to the unit. Brand new second lieutenant. The battery got back from an exercise and they're like, hey, we need to go close out the ranges with range control.

You're going to take a Humvee and go do that. And I go, okay. Okay. So I did. I know exactly how Humvee is driven, what the rules are to driving it, if you should get a seatbelt or not. And I know my way around this base just fine.

Okay, I'm out. Okay. So they gave me the grid coordinates. I have a map in my GPS, and I got Corporal McConnell, the comm Marine. Sounds smart. And I go, and I go, okay, McConnell, we're going to AFA six. And he goes, sir, I know exactly where that's at. I go, all right, dude. Yeah. Take, take me there. Cool. So we started driving and it's, we're like on this dirt road and it's like very apparent, like halfway through McConnell has no idea where we are or where we're going.

Cause then he turns around and goes, Oh sir. Uh, I thought I knew where it was. I go, okay, fantastic. So I'm sitting,

I got my map and I got my GPS and I go, okay, keep going down this road and it should be up here on the left. And I'm sitting there in my map, living it. And he goes, uh, sir. And I flipped down the map and we're on the base golf course, like, like no joke, like on a green. And so I get out and I, there's people there. So I think you have to ground guide because there's people there. So I'm ground guiding this up armored Humvee, like on the 18th hole of Pendleton's golf course,

turn it around and try to go back and find the safe. Luckily we found it. And the guy's like, Oh yeah, it was already closed out. Like you're, you're good. I go sweet.

Okay. I'm going to head back and I go McConnell. Hey, this stays between us. Right. He's like, yeah, I get back.

Everybody knew like immediately. Ace General was probably on that putting green. Oh, 100%. He's also got a Humvee golf story. Yeah, that's right. Just the other way. Go find the keys to the Humvee. That's a good one. That's chapter one. McConnell's now captain mcconnell

the comrade it's like i thought he got kicked out i have no idea he's a good dude i liked him um you've been eating any organ meat no so when i messaged you this ask if you're eating organ meat yeah and you said no well yeah you are aren't you the liver is king liver is king is what i said uh i have not on this run i usually i eat it quarterly i don't eat it daily I would rather die early than eat organ meat. Have you ever had liver hash? No.

Is it good? Yeah. It's good. So it's in the PD region of South Carolina. It's really popular. So right before you get to the pulled pork on the buffet line, it's in the PD, which is the middle of the state, like Florence, in the summer Columbia, down towards a little bit of Charleston,

like barbecues, like all a style. Okay. A lot of the South, but like in that region, like you go in, you buy the plate and it's all like pre-made out there. And so one of the dishes is liver hash. So it's always next to the rice and they take like half of a Boston, but if you're making it for like normal people size, and then they take however much liver and then're making it for like normal people size. And then they take however much liver and then they grind it, like blend it and grind it and like make it with like a gravy. So it's like a brown gravy. It's cut with pork.

So it's liver cut with pork and you, and it's really, really good. See, it sounds good. I tried cooking it once. It was just terrible. I did not do it justice. Yeah, I had a guy that's doing the carnivore with us. He was posting photos. He cooked it today and he was like, yeah, it's good. It's not good. The texture.

Okay, here's me eating bacon to try and get rid of the taste out of my mouth. But no, I like the concept of eating it and I've definitely eaten it. And I try to eat it. But unless it's in liver hash, I mean, it's just one of those things. It's like, if you don't grow up eating that food regularly, it just tastes foreign. Yeah. But I can eat in the Mexican foods. can eat like lingua. Is that the tongue? That's the tongue,

right? Or that's the brain. Right. I think, I think it's of a human, like of what? Yeah. Human,

human brain. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's cow. Cow brain. What's the head? Cabeza is the head. Cabeza is the cow head or brain.

But I can eat those. But I don't know if it's just because they cook them in the same grease as they would cook the asada and then put the lime and the salsa on it. So I can't tell the difference. I don't know. No. Yeah. Does it come in like pill form? Like I would eat liver if I could just like take it as a pill.

Liver King ancestral supplements. Wait, you ready? Oh, feast. What do you think he's doing now? He's doing the same thing. He's making same thing.

JP met liver King, right? Whoa. Was he a nice guy? He hit it. Well, I met liver King. He came in and we did a uh we filmed an interview with him and me and jordy did yeah i was about to say who's we uh me and this other podcaster down in miami florida who's no longer there but anyway liver king walks in and it's not just liver king it's the entire liver clan so usually just like liver

queen so we had liver he had liver sons we had and then he had like a posse with him is that called liver print probably okay yeah you're the throne yeah the princess liver and it was cool so the guy shows up in character basically and actually I think it's cool but he's got no shirt on a pair of black shorts on some like hiking boots and the dude is jacked out of his mind he's like five foot seven he is 200 pounds and i think he's five percent body fat napoleon complex i didn't realize he was that short yeah and anyway the main thing though he was real nice like very personal dude the main thing though is that we walked in the room and the entire clan smelt so bad like they don't believe that's not primal enough you know you can't be showers yeah yeah soap soap's not primal

HGH and testosterone injected into you is fine but soap Dove is oh and my giant boat with like eight motors on it that I go around shooting bottle rockets off that's primal not primal so honestly i kind of blacked out because i was just trying to not throw up the entire time while i was filming this interview um but nice dude yeah he's doing the same thing i mean nothing's changed uh oh i was hoping he was small enough to where we could get him on the podcast well he's huge no we're big enough though that we can. Yeah, that's right. We got to reach.

I don't know if you remember this, but the, the okay. I forgot to say it at the beginning powered by the shrink. Oh my God. Potential sponsor. The shrink. Oh, get in post. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, yeah. Liver King, potential guest. Oh, nice. Yeah. Pot potential guest liver king also king charles anyone that's a king wow just all kings okay we're just having kings

those are the only two i know that's it steve king steve king larry king live i think larry king is the r.i.p that's it Steve King Larry King live I think Larry King is the author who's the author Stephen King Stephen King

you know he did what's the movie Shawshank Redemption do you know Stephen King I didn't know that actually wow okay nevermind then I read the book thanks Jeff I didn't know that, actually. Wow. Okay, never mind then. I read the book. Oh, what? Thanks, Jeff.

Edit that. Quit reading books, dude. Let me impress you with some facts. I like the way that I added people into the new thread on Slack. Movies, books, and music. Just talked about movies. Movies, books, music.

So anyway, I'm watching Rebel Yell. That's what I thought. Rebel Moon? Rebel Moon. Moon. Is it a new Star Wars? Rebel Yell's a song, so that would also go in there. Oh. You don't know if it's a new Star Wars? I don't think it's a Star Wars.

That's the one Zack Snyder made as like a star wars adjacent oh who is zack snyder they're great you're like jeff who is 300 i don't know who that is oh okay zack snyder did like 300 and sin city and all that i think okay if only there was some device that could tell us yeah we'll never know we'll never know oh well i'm fine with not knowing we had a guy in the room with a computer open he's working on getting liver king next week

we're gonna get any uh any tunes talk we're talking about some music at all american song squad song of the week yeah we made it look it up now he's gonna say it wait what do you okay okay who is Zack Snyder he's an American film director okay what does he mean that we've heard of um oh yeah he he did Rebel Moon um let's see uh known for oh 300. uh it's hard it's hard being right man you have the dead um yeah that's really it a lot of super like superhero movies okay before we talk music fun fact i fell asleep during 300. wow but it was my break during knob year i don't know if you know this trey oh senior military college there's cadets there's some called knob here okay and we're not running around yelling gigum and

farmers fight we're like bracing where's the name knob come from that's what cadet prayers and uh we're not frogs are you guys frogs no you're rats fish fish that's right you fish fish out of water uh anyway yeah good i have a good a m story about that yeah i learned it was during my christmas break and so i was really tired and so we went to see 300 was like 300s out and i remember going to the theater and then like someone like bumping me like it's overbrook me i was like oh great movie was it a good nap though great map yeah right now top 10 all time yeah i need to go to sleep i just put on 300. have you seen 300 cents oh sparta wait you got a fish story? Yeah. The first time I ever like knew anything about Texas or before I knew anything about Texas A&M, I knew it existed. But so my freshman and sophomore year at Auburn, I was in the ROTC program, but like not on scholarship.

But I was on like the like the drill team or whatever. And so we go by sophomore year to like the big two-lane like drill meet and so like there's this big room where just like everyone's there like getting into their uniforms like getting ready to go out and do their little like do the drill competition and then there's like all of a sudden just like everyone's in there just like doing whatever door flies open like people come running in like people are screaming like all of a sudden all these people like line up in a circle around the room everyone else is just kind of like paused like half like changed like what the hell and it's all the texas a&m like drill team freshman drill team yeah freshman drill team they're all like at attention and like,

just like stopping. Everyone's like, what the heck's going on? And like someone walks in and like, they like literally like undressed by like the numbers. They're like, hey, it's,

and they all like drop their pants at once and like stand back up. And like, this is not real. It is happening right now. And I just remember being like, oh my gosh, what is this? Who are these people? people bunch of dorks yeah which they are they're a bunch of dorks yeah they took their pants off yeah they were like changing into their uniforms or something they all had to use the bathroom It was wild.

I had no context for what was happening. And I was just like, uh, you know, do you know the head yell leader is carnivore and a name every year. He said, wait, where's white pants.

You gotta be careful. That's why we make him to go carnivore. Get it out of the system. Um, all right. think uh why don't we talk a few tunes and uh and then maybe start bringing this ship in for a landing what's everybody listening to anything good anything new, underground stuff. I feel like what's Jeff's squat song? Usually. We all know the answer to that. Yeah, it's usually

Fleet Foxes. Yeah, it is. There's no particular Fleet Foxes song. That's what I'm listening to most of the time. So that's just usually what's on. I remember the first time i saw you like you were like squatting it was like three like heavy heavyweight like 300

close to 400 pounds i don't know i was like blown away and then you put 500 it could have been six yeah keep going keep going it could have been six i don't know and. And then Jeff, I was like, Oh yeah, I'm going to, Jeff's going to get it. And then he puts on fleet Foxes. I was following the, I was like, what is happening? Rampy used to always think that was funny. He's like,

I should be in Jeff and just like getting down to a two 25 snatch, listening to fleet Foxes. Hey, Hey, whatever works, whatever works whatever works i listen to uh so that is the hardest transition so in the rock climbing gym like we built out a fitness studio it has all our equipment so like all that's great but i don't have control of the music but i have been waking up a lot earlier since I'm carnivore. There's nothing to do. So I got to bed at like 10. So I've been going to the gym at like six in the morning, six 30.

So there's usually not anyone there. So I went in the other day, I was like warming up and I realized there's no music playing. So I went to the front desk and I was like, Hey, there's no music. She's like, yeah, there's just the route setters in here. Like I haven't turned it on. I'm like, can you put on Waylon Jennings radio? She's like, so I'm like, it's on. It's like cash devil's right hand, you know, lonesome Arnie and mean Henri. I'm like jamming.

And I get to my first work set and like Taylor Swift comes on. I look at her. I'm like, what happened? She's like, sorry, I have to put on the normal playlist now so uh but I like Waylon Jennings radio that's my go-to solid okay I'm lifting if I'm coaching I always put on uh like I'll either be whether I'm on Spotify or like Pandora I'll just start with Norman Greenbaum spirit in the sky and just let that ride. Let that vibe ride.

That's pretty good. I've been doing Black Keys here recently. Like old school. Old school Black Keys. Solid lifted music. Before that one. It's their underground music. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. But that and then I always, I think Grant turned me on to Rihanna.

Hey. Big Rihanna guy. B-B-H-M. I'll just leave that initial there. Yeah. Desperado. Mmm, Mano Carlo. Like Chevys.

What's not to love always solid you guys want to hear a a quick pregnant rihanna story yep okay of course i do yeah this will be the test to see if diana listens to episode two so i was working on my house and uh i had this old marine major that used to live with me and he moved out but like vogue was still getting sent to my house under his name. Like Vogue would come and I would just like throw it in the trash. Well, one day I was like on Twitter X and someone was like, it was Twitter at the time. Someone was like, I'll just go out there and say it pregnant Rihanna is fire. It was like a photo of like rihanna pregnant with her belly

hanging out and i just thought it was like hilarious because like i'll say what everyone wants to say something like that um so i send the tweet to diana like we both think it's funny like whatever soon the vogue magazine comes and it's pregnant rihanna so i ripped the cover off and i throw the rest of the magazine away and And I think like nothing of it. Well, I've been having to work down to my house. I was redoing my kitchen. And so I put it on. So like Diana came over that night and like, she sees it and like, we both like get a laugh, but like, we don't take it down. So I'm like the next morning I like leave.

And the contractors were just like coming and going and like doing their thing. And so they come in like what, I don't think anything. And then I come in at like, you know, six o'clock or whatever time I come in, they're still there. And the guy's name is Steve. He's like, so you really like Rihanna or I was like, no, no, no, no. I can explain. I saw this tweet and I thought it was funny. And so the Vogue man, he's like, dude, you don't have to explain.

All right. What's this guy into? You know what? I don't think I'm going to do this job anymore. PJ, when this show ends, if we just fade it out here and play Rihanna, we can do that. Just gonna say, Hey, that was a great Superbowl halftime. That was good yeah

underrated she was pregnant she was prego two what she's had like what three kids in a year it's amazing at least that's three in a year it was crazy yeah killing it. Elon did it. Well, any parting shots? Any saved rounds? Ooh. Any saved rounds? Winchester.

Let's go around the room. Liverpool? I got no saved rounds. So I'll... Well, since you said Liverpool, it's going to be an interesting stretch here. Trent and Alexander-Arnold just hurt his knees. He's out until February after already some piling up injuries.

We'll see what happens. It's still top of the table. Good save round. OKC, any saved rounds? No. College football's over. I'm out of rounds. Talk to me in August. For me, I got the Bruins and the Celtics playing good ball and good hockey. This has been episode two of the OK Podcast powered by The Strength Co.

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