The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 23: Luka Doncic, Cammies, Stefi Cohen, & Chin Up Benchmarks

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Tex...an, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Join the Slack and Use code OKAY: https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ks Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Crypto Update 05:13 - YouTube Update 08:39 - Jeff and Tres Join 10:00 - BIG REVEAL 13:54 - Luka’s Dad Bod 15:20 - Japanese Grandmas 19:02 - Cammies 25:35 - Caitlin Clark 28:22 - Al Horford 33:34 - Nike vs Underarmour  37:20 - SEC Preview 58:24 - Stefi Cohen Arrested? 01:05:34 - Garmin Watches 01:12:50 - Do We Actually Answer Questions? 01:14:32 - Getting Stronger On A Cut 01:22:54 - Upper Back Strength Benchmarks 01:27:50 - Focusing Programs On One Lift 01:37:01 - Mike Tyson Fight Delayed 01:39:05 - Sign Off

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, and welcome back to episode 023 of the OK Podcast, powered by The Strength Co. I'm your host, Grant Brogy. The block height right now is 845838. We're a crypto podcast. Everyone knows that. If you're looking for financial advice, you've come to the right place. If you're looking for dating advice, you've come to the right place. If you're looking for dating advice, you've come to the right place. If you're looking for dieting advice, you've come to the wrong place. We don't know anything about working out. We are a crypto podcast through and through. I kid, but we do like to talk about a little bit. It's May 30th. We're coming to you a little bit early. So if you're hearing this, we're going to be a little stale. So we can't talk too much about live sports next week.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Our co-host Jeff Bougier is off serving his country gallantly in the Marine Corps, but the show must go on. That's right. So here we are bringing you episode 023 from the beautiful upstate of South Carolina. Nice weather, huh? Oh, yeah. Beautiful. Yeah huh? Oh yeah, beautiful. Yeah, it really is.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Yeah, did you hear about, so the only update in the crypto news is that people think that after the Bitcoin ETF thing that you can buy in your retirement account now, that got approved, they're gonna do one for Ethereum, for ETH. And some people are like, oh, is this bad for Bitcoin? Now it's gonna take money away
Starting point is 00:01:23 because people are gonna be like, I think ETH is gonna go up more. I just going to do that and it'll take away from bitcoin they're all like children of btc yes you know yeah i mean you can dabble in the in the alt coins but i feel like outside of like gamestop doge spikes like random elon musk memes where stuff goes weird. If Bitcoin goes up, it all goes up. Yeah, exactly. And actually, the only take I'll share today is that heard a take that I thought was pretty good,
Starting point is 00:01:53 which is just the density of the whole crypto world is just going up, which is a good thing. Meaning it's like if there's one restaurant on the corner of a small town, it gets all the business because that's where you go to eat. Then let's say some other restaurants open up on that same block. People are like, Oh no, it's going to take business away from the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And then a lot of people say, no, now that just becomes, it just helps obesity. It just aids into Ozempic sales. That's right. Exactly. It's all what you get paid for in Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:02:20 It all connects. No, continue to take, but it's like, it's like, Oh, now that corner just becomes a place where people go and they're like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:02:27 let's go get food. And it just, everyone does better. It's like, you know, more activity, the better. So if there's an E thing,
Starting point is 00:02:33 if there's a Bitcoin thing, it's like, Hey, this is just going to bring more people in general to that whole world. And I think it's going to be a rising tide sort of situation. I mean, it's nothing new in, um,
Starting point is 00:02:43 the country or in the world to have like faneuil hall in boston you go in this guy selling lobster rolls this guy selling clam chowder this guy selling that but i would say in that like restaurant theme it is kind of interesting that in the last i feel like 10 years like lots of people are doing that like smaller towns are doing that like putting a bunch of stuff together but anyway that was kind of not related to bitcoin what i learned about bitcoin this week that i was surprised you didn't mention is that if you endorse doris bitcoin and you tell the hodlers to hold on yeah because there won't be a digital banking currency that's right because bitcoin's here to stay yeah you will be convicted of 34 felonies.
Starting point is 00:03:26 That's what I learned this week. Fair warning to all the listeners. Yeah. Fair warning. Just remember you lost everything in a boating accident. That's right. That's what I always say. It was a big boat. It was a big boat and lost it all 34 times. Oops. Does that mean it goes to like 34 jails? You know what? I don't know. I think they just lump it together and just, you just go to super jail or something.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah. He's not going to spend a day in jail. Actually. Here's what I'm thinking. Here's my actual, the thing that I'm actually excited about. So let's say he gets on like house arrest. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Right. Mar-a-Lago. What a terrible place. Terrible place. Do your punishment. I'm like, first of all, I need to reach out to him and be like,
Starting point is 00:04:03 Hey, when you do your emergency, emergency meeting yeah emergency broadcast uh streams live on rumble like i'm tuning in first of all that's gonna be fire what's rumble rumble rumble that's like a uh it's like a youtube um alternative where it's kind of like you know how true social came out in response to like Facebook and Twitter? Yeah. It's like the True Social of YouTube. So he owns it?
Starting point is 00:04:28 No, he doesn't own it, but it's like, oh, we won't censor you like YouTube will. It's like an uncensored YouTube sort of thing. So that's like the joke is like, oh, like all the canceled people have all gone to Rumble now. Oh, Rumble. But they're all coming back to X.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah, now it's just exclusive on X. Yeah. Elon just taking over. Taking over the world. Yeah. Making payments on X. I can't wait for the live streams. It't wait for the live streams mar-a-lago live stream emergency meetings live from prison dude that's two weeks in a row so like i said this is going to be a little bit dated it'll be nine days nine eight days from recording to um to airing so if if trump has been hung airing. So if Trump has been hung,
Starting point is 00:05:05 you know, it's old news, but we'll cover it in the next episode. Watch out talking about that BTC. Yeah, for real. Before we let these guys on here, five common errors in the squat. Yeah. Smoking. Well, it upset a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Oh, really? Yeah. So the comments are pretty interesting. And then, you know, I saw you got like you said you got like dms or something i got a bunch of dms some from people i've coached and then like random people that are just like i feel attacked and like if i know you i'm like well yeah you should feel attacked because you were squatting high i actually wasn't thinking about you but no that video was like really i mean kind of like a lot of the videos i did a little bit off the cuff but but I was like, what are the things that I see over and over? And that was it. And a lot of people were like, Hey, I really like this. It's really helpful. So, yeah, that was great. I mean, I remember
Starting point is 00:05:52 starting out, I was, I was, I was one of those ones that, uh, was like, I'm a self-coacher for a while. I started off just, just, I actually, unlike a lot of people, I actually read the blue book. Like I actually did it nerd. I just skimmed it. And I did skim the programming one, though. I skimmed that one. Yeah. You just went to the back. You were like, where's the North Carolina method?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah, exactly. Where's the home team barbecue method? But anyway, when I was learning that, it was hard to diagnose yourself because you don't even know what you don't know. That would have been really helpful, that video. You could start over if you wanted i should just start over just start over dude we should do that same thing with um do it with the press do with the deadlift do it with the bench yeah you know that's what i think yeah no i think so too the the viewers seem to like it so if you haven't gotten like that video you're not subscribed to the strength co youtube go
Starting point is 00:06:43 subscribe if you're not subscribed to the okay podcast go subscribe this things help us do you do you know i should i should know this but do you know like the percentage of the people who watch our channel who are actually subscribed to the channel because that's a that's always a tell oh i don't know that there's a way to find out yeah you'll have to pull that data yeah I'm gonna pull the data there were like 24 300 something subscribers so creeping up on 25 um it is interesting to see where people come from I assume like it's like oh we got 25 000 subscribers we got 4 000 views what is it all right so actually I'm gonna have you guess i'll make my point first i always think oh the 4 000 views came in from the 25 000 subscribers but it's when you go to the video analytics you can see like percentage yeah where people found found you like oh they just found you
Starting point is 00:07:37 from their feed or from through a short or whatever so what am i guessing? So what of the, of the people that watch the channel? Yeah. What percentage are subscribed? Who have actually made the higher it is the better. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, you're just watching our video and not even clicking subscribe.
Starting point is 00:07:58 61%. 23. Wow. That's good. I feel like I want that to be lower. You want it to be lower. Cause it means that we're like reaching more people that aren't even subscribed and also like no we're supposed to shame people into subscribing go subscribe
Starting point is 00:08:09 especially the boomer generation oh yeah like won't even log into YouTube dad log into YouTube like what do I get for this subscribe mom you have like six email accounts subscribe subscribe subscribe yeah anyway so that's what's new in the youtube world and uh the crypto world i forgot to give the price but when it flashes we'll we'll read it here and as we say every week shout out zach copley let's get the guys on the show Episode 023 of the okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Guidance. Okay. Well, early podcast powered by the strength. We got the whole crew here. It's Mr. Jeff. Mr. Jeff coming from the greater Salt Lake region of Utah. Mr. Trace Gottlidge, brother of Caleb, who is a little bit stronger than him, coming to you from Frisco, Tejas, and the two of us here from the beautiful upstate of South Carolina, episode 023.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So I said in the beginning, if you're listening to this and we're talking about the T-wolves and the, you know, calves, and we're talking about Trump's indictment, and we're talking about Bitcoin, not Bitcoin. We're talking about, oh, yeah, excuse me. I'm just so used to it. Finally, we get to that topic. I'm just so used to it. Yeah, just so used to the indictment.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You leveled up. Yeah. That's because Jeff is serving his country next week. Semper Fi. And the show must go on. So we're recording a little bit early. It's Thursday, May 30th. And the price of Bitcoin is not listed on the clock right now.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Come on, Zach. Yeah, come on, Zach. But before we kick it off to Jeff to take us to the topics I want to play a little game for Jordy called what color is it and we have a couple different props in here that we're going to use and he's going to pick it so the first thing you're going to do wait shorty color bar no I have no idea what's about to happen as you're drinking a little uh bubbly over there what colors that can you might have to pull it out to look at it. Oh, I just have to I can I can look
Starting point is 00:10:30 at the guy. I thought it was like a look and see what color it is. I'm going to call that a salmon. Okay salmon. We'll take a salmon. Okay. And then I guess next we're going to go over to Trey and if you look at Trey sweater, well don't cross your arms at this pivotal point of the show, Trey.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I'll do this. He has a little icon. Jeff already knows where this is going because he speaks grant his little icon over the left chest. What color is that? I'm going to be honest. It's hard for me to see. It looks kind of pinkish from here. Okay, so we got to see him and then we got a pink.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And then if you look at your host and the owner of the Strenko, what color shirt is he wearing? I want to say pink, but isn't like carnation a color? It's carnation pink. And if you look at my can, let's just switch from salmon and call this what? There's a theme going right now. Pretty in pink. That's right now. Pretty, pretty fruit. Pink, pink.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That's not pretty. Pretty. Just, just, okay. That's pink. Yeah. So one, two, three, four pink things. Okay. Four pink things.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Means what? Um, means if we have rip it down here, we'll have five pink things. Okay. Yeah. That's good. We like our five. So now we've got five pink things okay you added rip that's good we like our five so now we got five pink things what would that maybe mean it would mean that uh it would it sounds like a
Starting point is 00:11:52 gender reveal party oh did you figure it out really yeah we're having a girl no way dude he was just making a joke and actually answered the question. That's funny. Oh, man, so smart. He's very perceptive. Yeah. What kind of gender reveal? There you go. What kind of gender reveal has salmon?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Of course you're having a girl, dude. Of course. Of course you're having a girl. Granddad has salmon, yeah. He's over for a trout. I wanted a native fish to the Carolinas, not an Alaskan beast. That was fun. I was nervous.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Congratulations, man. I mean, if you, Trey, you got two girls. I'm a little bit behind. They're born in March. Yes, March 18th. So we're looking October. It's 2024 at 18th. So we're looking October. It's 2024 at 18, 34, 42. 2042, if Don Staley's still coaching,
Starting point is 00:12:56 the Gamecocks women's basketball team is going to be bringing the heat. It's going to dominate. It's going to dominate. They're all big men in Crock-Pot. Yeah, they're all. Everyone's a Crock-Pot. That bringing the heat. It's going to dominate. They're all big men crockpot. Yeah, they're all. Everyone's a crockpot. That's the mascot. We've got the three crockpots out there.
Starting point is 00:13:11 In South Carolina, change your mascot to the South Carolina crockpots. Let's get cooking. AI's going to pick up on that one. AI will give us a good reel out of that. Oh, yeah. An ideal. Dude, little girl.
Starting point is 00:13:23 There you go. Have you programmed her first uh linear progression yet i mean she's just squatting with her mother right now so nice and her mom's strong her mom's five i like that you brought in ripito's pink skin that's funny just what i wanted to think about when i thought about having a child ripito's skin thanks he's Rip a toe skin. Thanks. He's like a big baby. Dude, little girl. That's crazy. It's really exciting.
Starting point is 00:13:51 That's so exciting, man. All right, Jeff. All right. Get your IRFs ready. We already dipped our toes in the women's basketball. Oh, yeah? What did you talk about on that? Oh, what did we just talk about? No, just the conversation we just had.? Oh, what we just talked about.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Literally the conversation we just had. 2042, Jeff. Stay with it. Back to the future. Well, let's stick with basketball. What is the game going on right now? So we're like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Mavs are up pretty big last time I checked. Yeah. I said Cavs earlier, by the way, and I meant to say Mavs are up pretty big last time I checked. Let's talk about Luka Doncic. I said Cavs earlier, by the way, and I meant to say Mavs. Well, they rhyme, so you're not too far off. We all knew. Luka.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Talk about his physique. What do you think of his chiseled abs? You know, I think if there should be a spokesperson for saying that rip a toes right it should be luca don't don't just whatever luca i just like to call him luca like yeah and he's always out of breath and he'll be like on the side just huffing and puffing and then they're like hey luca we need you to go drain a three and then get fouled on the next position when you don't even have the
Starting point is 00:15:06 ball and then drain those and then do another three off your back foot from half court. No problem, coach. And I mean, unbelievable. He does look like a fan who is like drinking a beer in the first quarter. He looks like basketball and then, yeah, I can do that.
Starting point is 00:15:22 That's like a NASCAR driver and a NASCAR fan. Yeah a NASCAR fan yeah he does drive an El Camino where is a cowboy hat nice uh yeah we just call them hats down here right yeah well he's from Croatia I think hats in Texas Eastern block yeah Eastern have we explained bingo hats in texas eastern block yeah eastern have we explained bingo to jordy no i know how to play bingo no we'll explain no that's good let's not even let's not ever tell him yeah oh yeah i'll just say as a side note my japanese grandma was a fiend at bingo she'd have like 15 cards at the same time just like like punching of them have you been to an actual bingo hall before?
Starting point is 00:16:08 I looked in one time and I said I'm not doing this so she was in you guys will know this I think so she lived in Fayetteville North Carolina and so there was a lot of like army vets or military vets who lived all around there that was my grandpa too and there
Starting point is 00:16:24 was like a community of she was she was japanese you said japanese you said grandfather you said military what side of pearl harbor was he on i actually had family on both sides oh wow yeah yeah so that's that's conflicting yeah yeah i don't know i don't know how i feel about pearl harbor get back get back to the bingo okay that's how i feel about the civil war by the way oh yeah there you go conflicted um but she she would um there was like a community of like asian wives in fayetteville north carolina that had married like gis like overseas so they all hung out with each other and my my grandma she was like four foot Japanese. She'd leave the house at midnight and go to these halls and just chain smoke and just smoke everyone and bingo until 6 a.m. when they come home. I'm like, Grandma, you're savage. You're wild.
Starting point is 00:17:15 She was at the casino. She just told you because you were little it was bingo. Yeah, exactly. No, it was definitely bingo. I used to go to when I was in middle school with my friend's family. And if you talked in there like you were oh yeah dead since it's like we played we played a lot of bingo every year we would go up to cashers north carolina and we'd like rent a cabin and the cabin was like affiliated with a golf course and it's like most people went and like stayed at the country club but we didn't but if you had a cabin you could like go do the things and so like they would have like free cookies and tea at 3
Starting point is 00:17:49 p.m every day for people staying at the country club but my dad would be like well i mean we're staying on the property we're just in a cabin there's no sign that says we don't get the cookies and the tea and so he'd be like we're going tea time. And then every night there'd be bingo and we'd go in and it's like, you know, some, some college intern that's, you know, majoring in hospitality and that's like rolling the thing. He's like, some of you took this interstate here today. I 26, I 26 interstate South Carolina to be or not to be. That is the question.
Starting point is 00:18:25 B2. Yeah. We loved it. It was great. We loved it. Bingo. But yeah, when Trey says bingo or Jeff says bingo or I say bingo,
Starting point is 00:18:35 it has nothing to do with bingo. I like it. Yeah. We'll explain to you something like donkey dick. It's like, yeah, similar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah. It's probably not too far off yeah honorary marine john cena chuck norris geordie long now his camis will just say pj yeah i love it i like that better i like that better i don't need the government name on there that's right oh man which is funny actually kind of going off of that i just bought like a new set of camis the other uh last drill weekend and i i don't think i'd bought one i don't know it'd been probably a decade and i forgot that they don't come with the u.s marines ditched on there already and i was like wait i gotta buy that one too like i get why i wouldn't have my
Starting point is 00:19:25 last name on there already but like come on throw me a bone and give me the u.s marines so it's like brogy over one pocket u.s marines over the other but it's like when you get your camis you have to go to like a cami store and be like this is how you spell my last name and then they make it and they sew it on oh um there's like you can do it on base or like every base. There's a bunch of like pop-ups run by four foot 10 Japanese ladies. They're great at that stuff. But it doesn't come with US Marines, which is just weird because no other service wears those camis. I mean, I guess technically the Navy corpsmen do kind of. I mean, they do, but it seems like funny that you would leave it off for that small population of people how about how new camis are so stiff and hot dude they're they're crinkly yeah
Starting point is 00:20:13 it's like i bought a new pair in like 2018 and you know how the sizing is never correct it's like one day you're wearing a medium long. The next day you're wearing a medium rag. The next step, like it's every, every pair of camis fits different. And so this one, I was like lifting a lot. So I'm like two 45 and I'm like, I'm just going to get the large regs. So I get the large regs. Santa Claus could have worn them. Like they were gigantic. So I never wore them. And then, you know, as I'm back in, I'm getting ready to take command. I'm like, I can't like every pair of cami trousers I have has a hole in the crotch that I've sew wore them. And then, you know, as I'm back in, I'm getting ready to take command. I'm like, I can't. Like, every pair of cami trousers I have has a hole in the crotch that I've sewed up, like, six times. I have those new camis.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So I take them to Jordy's grandma and get them altered so that Santa Claus can't fit into them anymore. She did do alterations, by the way. Stereotop. She actually did. And I wore wanted to drill. I'm like, these things are so hot because they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:08 they just don't breathe. Yeah. Anyway, I have a question. Yeah. Are there, so I know that when, I don't know too much about this,
Starting point is 00:21:18 but I know when like a, like a nurse or a doctor or PA will have to get their scrubs. It's not like you're just assigned scrubs. You go like, you have to go buy scrubs and there's like different brands of scrubs. And did you get the good ones or the cheap ones or which brand are there like options for camis or is this like,
Starting point is 00:21:32 no, this is your, these are your camis. So, well, I have not for the Marines. I feel like there's one, I guess there's maybe different manufacturers.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yes, but they're all sold together. Like there's, there's really not a difference. I don't, there's only one. I guess there's maybe different manufacturers. Yes. But they're all sold together. Like there's really not a difference. I don't think. There's not a difference. But I think what you're thinking about is like, it's like, you know, when you see the Marines wear the blue trousers
Starting point is 00:21:54 with the red stripe and the tan shirt. Yeah. There's like five different vendors of that tan shirt. Oh, okay. And so some of them fit like kind of snug and some of them are huge. But I think Cammy's, they're all sold under
Starting point is 00:22:05 the same tag but they're no way that it's all the same manufacturer i have no two pairs of camis that fit alike i didn't know if it was like oh you got the nice camis or like oh you got the cheap you know what i mean i don't know we have that with you think what well the army i think they're like are like different manufacturers like they can get i mean there's probably like a hundred different like boots manufacturers of boots they can get because it's like are they fully are they fully the tri-color now or do they still do the bdus or whatever they're called uh they're like it's like they're i think it's just basically multi-cam they look a lot like the Air Force now.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah, they wear the same pattern as the Air Force now. Because when I drill on Fort Dix, there's Air Force and Army. Okay, sorry. Okay, Park Sergeant. And this is a guy that's been in the gun club
Starting point is 00:23:02 for a while, and I'm always like, is that guy Air Force or Army? i can't tell yeah they made a really like this very distinguishing uh difference between it's like the air force the the text is like a like a brown and then oh the army it's in black so it's very different very easy to tell actually i'm glad i'm glad you told me that that may be useful that's a big i think that's silly well other than one one says air force but yeah i'll i'll pull up to the gate guard at fort fort dix i'll be like is that brown or black and he'll be like sir you can't say that to me oh my bad my my gram my grandfather married to the tiny Japanese lady.
Starting point is 00:23:46 He was in the Army and the Air Force. Oh. Yeah. And one day we were like, yeah, he was like, I was in the Army. And then, you know, got kicked out because of my eyesight. And then a few years later, you know, I was in the Air Force. They decided I could fly. And then I was like, wait a minute, hold on.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I got to stop his story. And I was like, if you got kicked out of the army, like how'd you get into the Air Force? He was like a straight face. He just goes, oh, I lied. Nice. He had to do like the vision test. And he's just like, you know, moves his hand out of the way.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And he's like, that's a T. Yeah. And they're like, yep, correct. You're good. Come on in. Good bucks aren't right there. I thought you were saying my mom's dad was the same way but he was like he was army air corps and then the army air corps became the air force so like technically he was in both that's that's what i was thinking but i like that story better yeah he just straight face had no remorse either
Starting point is 00:24:42 zero do what you gotta do that's what i remember when i was doing the uh like you know you get your physical to like see if you can go get your contract so i was doing my physical and like the guy asked me he's like have you ever had asthma before and i was i had like exercise induced asthma when i was like young i'm like yeah when i was young i had asthma but he's like i going to ask you this one more time have you had asthma before and I go no
Starting point is 00:25:07 no I'm good he's like alright I'm going to put that down Trey leaves with 100% disability the VA is like I got asthma now
Starting point is 00:25:16 we gave him asthma crap he rakes $3,600 a month for the rest of his life can't believe we did that to him I can't believe I didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It must've been, it must've been that water and Lejeune that he never said. Oh man. Class action, baby. That's good. Before we leave basketball. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Where, where we've been, Jeff, you want to talk a little bit about how great Caitlin Clark's been doing? Oh, it's been a struggle. Yeah. What? She has one or two wins now i think something like that so i was i was gonna say i don't know i did see at one point the fever were like oh and four she's fever right i mean yeah like they're a bad team they've had the first pick two years in a row they're bad yeah they're a bad team. They've had their first pick two years in a row. They're a bad team. Yeah, they're bad.
Starting point is 00:26:05 But all I see on SportsCenter, like on Instagram, is just Kaitlin Clark either throwing an airball or just getting mowed over by someone. And it's all ESPN shows, and I kind of like it. Do you think... Who did she get the big endorsement from? Nike? Nike?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Everybody. I think everybody did when everyone's like oh we made a huge mistake yeah it should be fine i mean yeah i know it's also kind of crazy that like she ended her college basketball season after basically playing like every game possible and then it's like a month later you roll right into the wmbBA where it's like, alright, now everyone here is almost as good as you. It's like no offseason. They're one in eight. One in eight. I was also wondering
Starting point is 00:26:54 so you have stars that come out of college, not so much anymore. So you have stars that go directly in the NBA. You're LeBron, you're Tatum, you're like whatever. And obviously they kind of play right away but then you have the college guys that like would play a couple years and then they'd get like you know they'd be like um bench guys and then they like get to play in the league for a few
Starting point is 00:27:16 years and then they you know graduate to being a starter is the wmba like that or is it just like we drafted you here you go or is it just because caitlyn clark they're like hey if we play this girl the fever will make money if the fever makes money maybe we could buy more good players my assumption would that be that she is like one of the better players on that team so okay they're gonna play her um yeah but yeah they're not a good team and I think a lot and like you know the the league vets are probably like out to get her like oh everyone's like no one cared about women's basketball until caitlin clark and it's like uh hey i've been doing this for five or six years i was a great college basketball player i was on espn my nickname was dutch oven no one ever knew i mean be fair, we're coming for it. We're going to value hard. We're going to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Can we take time to acknowledge how good that joke was? That was a good joke. Thank you. Thank you, Troy. It's a playoff of crockpot, Jordy. It all makes sense now. Dang. So,
Starting point is 00:28:23 quick pivot back to the NBA. And this is kind of random how I stumbled on it. I thought we were going back to cami manufacturing. See that cami shortage? I think that's a bunch of bullcrap. There are a lot of camis at the PX.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You just need to go to Fort Worth. But I was talking about Al Horford. And like I kind of remember him at college. He was like a they just need to go to Fort Worth. But I was talking about Al Horford and like, I kinda, so like, I remember like him at college, he was like a good, you know, like he played center at Florida when got drafted by the Hawks. And then like,
Starting point is 00:28:55 you know, six, nine, that's kind of like an undersized center in the league. And then I was, you know, like you see him play for the Celtics shoots a lot of threes, like very good three point shooter. And so I was like was like well let me look at his stats from like his career
Starting point is 00:29:09 and so for the first eight seasons of his career he had 65 three-point attempts total like add up all eight seasons and there's multiple seasons where he attempted zero like i think there's like three seasons in there where he didn't attempt any. And then in the 2015- 2016 season to current, he's averaging probably like 250 attempts a game.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And it's like, do you mean this is a season? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a game. No, a game. You heard me right. Don't interrupt. Because the Celtics are the balls I wonder how much playing time he was getting before I mean he was
Starting point is 00:29:52 played a lot for the Hawks I think he played a lot for the I mean but I think he averages what like 15 minutes now like it's not it's pretty significant but like now unlike that to me that is a 100% like example of the steph curry effect and like the shift in the league because like oh then i also kind of looked at steph curry stats and so it was like 20 his like first couple years in the league he was putting up like 300 a season
Starting point is 00:30:21 and then he got hurt one year so he had like a lower number and then it was like from 2013 like on he had like no less than 600 attempts wow they just like let him off the leash and we're like do your thing dude that's missoula's whole strategies it's in the numbers yeah when the three-point game. That's the Celtics strategy. I'm assuming Jeff saw this. Trey, how old do you think Al is? Big Al. First time I hear about this guy.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Let's just say he almost has a great birthday. Is he 32? No. You have no context. 37? 38. Well, so you have no context then. 37? 38. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:08 He's 37. Oh, he's 37? He was born a day after me. Oh. How about that? How about that? Young buck. Dork.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Couldn't get it right. Dork. Still got a lot of years left to be in the NBA, I guess. Seriously. So you're saying there's a chance. So here's a stat that he holds. He's third
Starting point is 00:31:30 in most playoff games played without winning a title. Dang. That's why he's holding on. Dang. Oh, I hope he gets one this year. Me too. Big Al. Dang.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Next slide. Do you remember who the other players were that were on that list? Just offhand? No, I don't. I mean, they're like names that I knew. I feel like there was a Carl in there. They were like names that's like, oh, I've heard of this person playing basketball. But no, I think it was Post Malone.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Post Malone. Yeah. Also lives in Utah yeah yeah sings country apparently same same from from grapevine went to grapevine high school post Malone yeah I think the thing's from grapevine Texas oh okay wow post malone he's got a song that's banging right now with uh morgan whalen wallen what waleen another another fella i got some help or something like that oh was it how they went to jail probably a little bit of help yeah got into jail no uh morgan wallen was like arrested recently because he chucked a a folding chair off the roof of his bar in nashville
Starting point is 00:32:47 wait it was his it's his own bar yeah yeah it's his own arrested for a chair it's the least american thing i've heard of it's his bar oh yeah it's his bottle this is america they should convict him 34 times yep Yep. He convicted him 34 times. It was the same lawyer. Not once. Not twice. Yeah. I feel like you should be able to throw your own chair off your own roof.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that was the problem. It was somebody else's chair, maybe. No. Someone brought it in from outside. He was like, get this chair out of here. Bring your own chair yeah
Starting point is 00:33:29 BYOC those are the worst kinds of bars man only in grapevine what's next well then do you want to kick it over to college sports two things i wanted to hit on real quick uh before we jump into the our sec preview with our expert here trey gotlitch one shout out to auburn's men's golf team for winning the national championship their first
Starting point is 00:34:02 national championship or damn eagle and then the second thing also kind of semi auburn related but also wanted to get some takes from y'all on it uh is that uh auburn next year is switching over to nike for their like uniform sponsor they're gonna contract with them before they've been under armor since like we must protect this house 2009 upgrade i think they were like the second school it was big at the time because there was like the second school outside of maryland yeah where like the guy that like created under armor like played on maryland's football team um so it was like a big deal then and it was even bigger because the season before that their sponsorships were Russell Athletic, or like their jerseys,
Starting point is 00:34:48 and then their cleats were New Balance, which was just like, what? Hey! Who signed these guys? I feel like if you tried to roll up, or had recruits roll up to a visit, a campus visit, and those were your sponsors, they would just be like... Steve Jobs.
Starting point is 00:35:07 A bunch of Steve Jobs walking around yeah but so like I feel like the uniform sponsor is like a big recruiting thing and I think I feel like Nike is it's kind of the school that people want to they want to see there I feel like Under Armor was super cool yeah and yeah it's kind of past Nike I i don't know when i buy jerseys i always like the nike ones is is jordan owned by nike yes yeah it's like a sub sub brand okay so like i know oh use jordan michigan maybe florida yeah what do you think that? I think that's kind of weird that there's a basketball guy on a props props to Michael Jordan for getting that. Is anybody is there any teams that are strength code? No, not yet. Not yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get to Citadel on that track.
Starting point is 00:36:05 That's right. Okay. Before we get in the weeds of the diets of the incoming recruits to Arkansas State from Trey, college baseball regionals start. Auburn is in which one? I'd have to look. Gamecocks are in Raleigh playing James Madison tomorrow at 2.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Ooh, JMU. But anyway, JMU. Baynims. Baynims hosting, I think. Yeah, I think you are hosting. Yeah, anyway. So we'll keep you up to date. Actually, by the next time we record, that'll all be over and there'll be a national championship probably done entitled but you know whatever
Starting point is 00:36:50 whatever all right um man every time i look i forget every time we still we haven't said the price of bitcoin this show and every time i look it's on the block height next time it lights up let me know suspense suspense that's all i'm going to think about now yeah just wait for the lights okay we should convict zach copley 34 times yes we should everyone gets a conviction 34 times it's crazy i love it i love it great do you want to kick us off in on our little preview want to talk about i can't do a preview oh it's a great question just do one that that's what i love uh what i've always loved about pw taxes uh you know you could be someone like me i have a w-2 job still um you know got to support the wife the kids there you There you go. Kids, you know, there's child tax credits.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You know, the government has really created a wild maze that is income tax and loopholes and all that. And that's what the folks at BW Tax, that's their bread and butter. I mean, that's what they're known for and what they've come to be so excellent at. And that's why, you know, you could talk to them remotely. Even if you're from some place in the sticks like western northeast South Dakota, you can still talk to a warm body at BW Tax. It's not a bot. It's not a chat GPT service. You know, it's real people there providing a real service.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And that's what I love about them at BWTax. BWTaxLLC.com. Yeah, that's what I like. That's what I like about them. My favorite thing about that is every time Jordy laughs on the track, I think he's laughing in real life. And then about halfway through, I'm like, am I in a Memorial Day remembrance event?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Like, it's so somber. Every time I hear it, I think that you're coming in and correcting them live as far as, yeah. Well, we actually do. We just time it really well. Yeah, yeah. It's like Grant does that every time. Wow. I have a time my life.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I want to, you know, put Tanner on the hot seat. He says, I got a W2 job. Still have a W2 job. It sounds in his voice like he's wanting to get rid of that W2 job. Shout out to the guys at Massanomics. They just released a coffee today.
Starting point is 00:39:19 That's pretty cool beans. Is that what it's called? It's called Cool Beans. It's a light roast. No way. Have you had it yet? cool beans um is that what it's called it's called cool beans it's a light roast no way and uh yeah i haven't i'm a little disappointed that as a content creator and influencer there wasn't a bag that just showed up to my house but it's about the same like yeah 40 of your posts are just you pouring coffee i mean look like like there's a gold drink spotter down here that I'm always showing. It's actually 52% of my posts,
Starting point is 00:39:48 but I, yeah, it used to be 60%. And then I started fishing. So it's kind of, yeah, a bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:55 We should boycott until they send us some. Yeah. Give us some of that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm putting your notes for, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:03 after Trey gets in and we leave sports. Steffi Cohen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Drama. Miami. All right, Trey.
Starting point is 00:40:14 You have to tell me about that. All right. You want to hop into this? Are we doing both? You want to do both these teams this week or just are we doing one or two? I think we're behind a week right in terms of talking about yeah we so i think we had to do it too we didn't do i have to abbreviate a little bit you know hit the way okay i'll keep it short so we'll do uh we'll do ou first boomer so boomer soon our
Starting point is 00:40:37 first year sec conference uh last year they went 10 and 3 uh in the Big 12 72 in conference. Brent Venables, the head coach, going into his third year. I think Jeff Levy, the offensive coordinator, went to go be the head coach at Mississippi State, so they got a new OC this year. And then Ted Roofs, the DC, I think he started two years – or he was an analyst last year, but he started as a DC this year but followed. It's pretty much Brent Venable's defense that he runs.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So one thing that I think we're going to be surprised of this year is OU is going to be a good defensive team because usually they just try to outscore the other opponent and score a lot, but then get scored on a lot. So this year I think it's going to be a little bit different with them actually playing defense this year. Excited to see their quarterback this year, Jackson Arnold is his name. He played in the bowl game last year. So he's Jacked like Arnold?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah, Jacked Arnold is actually his name. And so he played in the bowl game last year, threw a bunch of interceptions in the first half, and then second half looked a lot. He looked real exciting. So if he can kind of figure it out, I think he'll be excited to watch. Defense, I think he's going to be really good this year. I think they're going to probably have like a top three defense in the SEC.
Starting point is 00:41:54 So we'll see how that goes. But other than that, man, they got some talent on offense, and then they got some good guys on defense that they got. Who are they playing? Good recruiting class and good portal class. Let me pull up the – You know, when I saw you put in the notes Oklahoma-Texas preview, this is not a joke, and this isn't me like, oh, SEC, SEC.
Starting point is 00:42:18 But I was like, what are we doing, the Big 12 now? Like, are we just going to do all the teams? And then I was like, all of them. Right. It is weird. We're now in the SEC. It is weird. I like how Trey can say that as a nine-year vet of the SEC now.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I can't believe you're looking at this. It's so strange. Just letting in anybody. Letting anybody in. I remember my first Red River shootout. But, okay. Come on. anybody and i i remember my first red river river shootout but okay come on what's the great schedule yeah hit it all right so first game is temple win let's win i think i gotta win on that actually i made a spreadsheet spreadsheet that the professional alert well i don't want to be like contradicting myself okay
Starting point is 00:43:06 yeah i had a win uh second game is houston u of h oh i'm still gonna go win where is that game at oh you twin i gotta win uh next game is two lanes stinky good team actually i don't know if their coach left i can't remember going away they were good I got win. Next team is Tulane. Stinky good team. Actually, I don't know if their coach left. I can't remember. They were good. I thought you said stinky good team. Stinky good.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Sneaky. Sneaky good. You know how those kids at Tulane smell. New Orleans. Yeah, I got win as well. So we're all 3-0 right now, right? Yep. Okay, I got Tennessee as well so we're all 3-0 right now right okay I got Tennessee loss
Starting point is 00:43:47 I agree with that Tennessee Tennessee comes I'm going to say Oklahoma wins wow Jeff alright I got lost in Tennessee so me and Grant 3-1.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Jeff's 4-0. Auburn at Auburn. That's a loss. More eagles. That's a loss. That's a shutout. 62 to nothing. I can't wait to do the preview on Auburn,
Starting point is 00:44:16 and Jeff just hasn't gone undefeated. Undefeated, guys. National champion. I don't know why they're not number one right now. Every real SEC team that OU plays in their first year, I'm probably going to they're not ranked number one right now. Every real SEC team that OU plays in their first year, I'm probably going to say loss unless it's Vanderbilt. They don't play Vanderbilt this year.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I have loss as well. I have Tennessee loss, Auburn loss. Grant, did you say loss too? No, I said loss. Auburn victory. Okay. Then they got Texas at the Red River Shootout or whatever it's called now. Hook them.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah, I'm saying wing. As much as it pains me to say, I said muster. South Carolina. Do you want to solve varsity's horns off short? I'll always solve varsity's horns off. Listen, now, Gamecocks at this point in the season will be 5-2 rolling into a win. Crush them. They crush them.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Is it a Williams-Brice under the lights, Sandstorm playing? Correct. Gamecocks. No, no, no, no. It's at OU. Doesn't matter. Beamer ball, baby. Special teams.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Gamecock W. Okay. A couple block puns. You have them losing. I have them winning against South Carolina. Ole Miss. At Ole Miss. Jeff, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Because you're putting this in your spreadsheet, right? And then you're going to do it later? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think it's Oklahoma win. Sorry. No, I'm going South Carolina
Starting point is 00:45:46 let's go go Cox Spurs up alright we got Ole Miss at Ole Miss I'm going to say loss yeah I got lost too then they got Maine
Starting point is 00:46:02 the fighting lobsters University of Maine like the Black Bears to. Then they got Maine. The Fighting Lobsters. University of Maine. Like the Black Bears? I don't know. I learned today they had a football team. Surprise, surprise. They're playing Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I knew that the Bruins goalie Linus Olmark went there. I didn't know that they had a football team. We all know that. We all have to win. At Missouri, which is a big rivalry. It's actually a big rivalry game. I'm going to go win.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Do you think they beat Missouri? Yeah. They'll be so mad after losing to the Gamecocks. I was going to say it's the main. And then a cupcake went over main. They're like, we got to show. It's time to bring it to the other Columbia. Since at Missouri, too. I think Missouri wins.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah. I got Missouri winning as well. Then we got Alabama. Alabama comes to OU. Man, Alabama's so tough. No one knows. It's true. I still
Starting point is 00:47:06 think Alabama wins. Yeah, I do. You said OU lost. See, I have OU winning that. That'd be big. Big statement win entering the SEC. Especially after the loss to the Gamecocks. He's just manifesting it.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And then I got, then they go to LSU. To me, LSU is like totally unknown. Why would you want to join this conference? They got pretty rough schedule. Wait till your Florida schedule. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I'm going to say they lose to LSU. I put loss to LSU. I think they split their last two games. I don't know. I think they drop one to win one. I think they beat LSU. Gold Tigers.
Starting point is 00:48:03 LS who? Angel Reese, am I right? I think me and Grant actually ended up with the same wins-loss because you have... I don't know. Yeah, I think we did. You can flip that Gamecock game if you want to get ahead of me. Oh, listen. No, that's
Starting point is 00:48:19 right. You're pretty confident in that one. Alright, let's go to the next one. Let's pretty confident in that one. All right. Let's go to the next one. Let's go to Florida. The Sunshine State, home of 34 convictions, locked up, house arrest in Mar-a-Lago. Home of Nolan Hickey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Aaron Hernandez. Steffi Cohen. All right. Peace. Steffi Cohen. All right. Peace. A lot of great folks floating around.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Okay. RIP. A lot of great folks floating around. Okay. All right. So Florida, last year they went five and seven. They went three and five in conference. So they had a rough year last year. Head coach Billy Napier is in his third season. Came over from Louisiana. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I think he's on the hot seat this year. I think they've replaced both of their coordinators. Maybe not their DC, but I think it's a new OC. I don't know. Don't quote me on that, but I think they have relatively new coordinators. Dude, they have the toughest schedule,
Starting point is 00:49:18 I think, in the country. Number one. Offense, they have Graham Mertz, who's the transfer from Wisconsin. He's pretty steady, Eddie. So we'll see if he – it's his final year playing. I'll be curious to see if he finishes out the year at quarterback because I think DJ Legway, the big recruit they had,
Starting point is 00:49:39 is like the number two or three rated quarterback that they pulled last year. I think he's going to end up starting by the end of the year. Yeah, I don't know. I think they have their offensive line is what's going to kind of dictate. I say that about everybody because everybody, if you have a questionable offensive line, you're just not good. Defense, they got some studs on defense. So I'll be curious to see.
Starting point is 00:50:04 They got some good, Pup Howard, Derek got some studs on defense. So I I'll be curious to see, they got some good, uh, pup Howard, Derek Wingo, uh, smart James. I got a good linebacker, uh,
Starting point is 00:50:10 good defensive line. It's their secondary. That's kind of questionable. Um, they got some transfer. So we'll see, we'll see if they pull together on defense, but I don't know,
Starting point is 00:50:19 man, after we we'll go through this schedule and skin, it's like comical how hard it is. Uh, okay. So they start off going, or my, After we – we'll go through the schedule. It's like comical how hard it is. Okay. So they start off going – Miami comes to Florida. We got to let Jordy vote on this one as a Miami native.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Nice. Miami wins. I think so too. I like a hot take. You know, I'm going to say Miami too. Portnoy is probably going to have like 400 grand on the game. I'm going to say Miami wins. We all have Miami winning on this one. Next game, we have Sanford.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Where is Sanford? Sanford is in Alabama. They are Citadel Conference. Okay. Southern FCS. Unless they move. They did realign a little. No, because I just went to the SoCon tournament for baseball. Sanford was there. Yeah. Okay. Southern FCS. Unless they moved. They did realign a little. No, because I just went to the SoCon tournament for baseball. Sanford was there.
Starting point is 00:51:09 So they got Sanford coming home. Now, that is a Baptist school and never undermine the power of prayer. Just saying. But I'm going to go with a Florida win. There's at least one Baptist That goes to the University of Florida
Starting point is 00:51:29 Where grace abounds Sin abounds all the more That's the other way Okay so I'm assuming We all have a win there And then Texas A&M Comes to play that Florida next Farmers fight
Starting point is 00:51:44 Who's leading the Midnight Yell? I think they asked me to this year. I said I would think about it. I'm going to give that a Texas A&M W then. It's actually us four actually going to be leading Midnight Yell. I'm sorry. I don't dress up as a cheerleader. I'd be all in.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Okay, Texas A&M. Grant, I assume that means you have a&m winning a&m gig'em gig'em i have a&m winning as well so we're all one and two right now uh then they go to mississippi state win go in so you put you put win there okay yeah yeah those cowbells aren't loud enough for a Gator I see I put uh I think they lose I think I have them losing that as well all right uh by week and then they go they got UCF at home I hate UCF so many people like so good but then like when they get to a big game, not good. They're stinky good. Stinky good.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Stinky Central Florida team. I'm going to say Gators win that. Good. Hefe. That's my guts telling me, and you got to go with your gut. Yeah, I got to win as well. Then they
Starting point is 00:53:06 go to Tennessee. I think we're all in agreement on this. Tennessee. Tennessee. They got Kentucky at home. The win. The win. Last in the SEC.
Starting point is 00:53:21 You think they beat Kentucky? I think they beat Kentucky. I think they beat Kentucky. I think they beat Kentucky. I got a loss to Kentucky as well. Yep. So right now I have two and five. Okay. And this is where it gets hard.
Starting point is 00:53:36 So here's the killer standard right here. Let me read this off first and then I think we can all just have the same answers on all of them they got Georgia neutral site they got Texas away
Starting point is 00:53:50 then they got LSU at home they got Ole Miss at home and then they go to Florida State hot take they beat Texas and Florida State that's a very hot take put that in the bank with your bitcoin wallet They beat Texas and Florida State. That's a very hot take. Put that in the bank with your Bitcoin wallet.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Silence. Wow. They really got offended by that. Very offended. I think they beat Florida State. Okay. So you have them winning one of those. I have them losing all five of those. I'm actually going to change. I think they'll pull the win out of Kentucky since Kentucky's at home.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Okay, Trey, picture this. Shoot. You're in probably like Corpus Christi region, maybe Houston. Okay. Or Galveston, somewhere like, what do you call that part of Texas that's near water? Is that the Gulf? Is that the Gulf?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Yeah, Gulf. Yeah, the Gulf. So in the Gulf, you got gators, right? And you got longhorns, okay? Gator comes up out of the swamp. Who wins in the fight? Gators out of water?, who wins in the fight? Gator's out of water?
Starting point is 00:55:08 Longhorn. No way. Longhorns. His horns have been sawed off already. Yeah. He's got to him. He's varsity. Gator's in Texas.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I'll put it this way. Someone kicks down your door. They weigh 600 pounds, and someone else kicks down your door, and they weigh like 200 pounds. Who are you more scared of? The guy with the jaw that could eat my entire lower torso in one bite. Not the guy with a nose and these big doe eyes that looks at me.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It's not Chris LeDoux. The Gator's not going to get on the Longhorn and go for an eight second ride. He's going to literally just bite its organs and guts and the Longhorns go down. It's Chris LeDoux! Okay. Real quick.
Starting point is 00:56:08 I think this is one that Jordan needs to weigh in on. Who gator or a longhorn oh gator yeah gator i'm going gator on that one go get gators gators aren't that big go gators you know how much i'll be listening to this during my life? I mean, a gator can be 14 feet long. Yeah. Huge. Most of that's tail. Yeah. You're all tail.
Starting point is 00:56:33 No bite. What's the average size of a gator? I ain't scared of no tail. American gator. I'm looking up right now. No, this is not an American gator. It's a Florida Gator. That state is ready to secede. It's a different breed.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Eight feet. Jordy's looking it up. 11.2 feet for a male. Yeah. 11.2. Okay, 14 is not a big one. Exceptionally large males can reach a weight of nearly half a ton or a thousand pounds.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Dude! How big is your average longhorn? Go right here. You can see it. That's a short horn, I think. That's a short horn. That's a short horn. Well, it was a longhorn and the Zaggies got to him. We sawed him off. We sawed him off and we just made him shorter
Starting point is 00:57:21 and still pointy. There were eight people listening. There's now one and it's my mother. Texas Longhorns weigh around 900 to 1200 pounds. Mass. You could have a thousand versus thousand pound battle. Mass.
Starting point is 00:57:37 That I was paid. Can you make sure there's a gator head and a longhorn on the thumbnail? I'm going to take everyone's head off and just have that perfect fighting. You put a long horn on my head. I'm going to have a long horn that's losing to a gator on the thumbnail.
Starting point is 00:57:57 That's fine. I would actually approve of that. That's it, man. This has been your college football SEC preview brought to you by the okay podcast powered by barstool sports i mean uh the strength co big shout out to trey for all the research love it trey go get us off the dome all right push next slide and did you want to talk steffy cohen sounds like you got some All right. Bush. Next slide.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Did you want to talk Steffi Cohen? Sounds like you got some. Oh, yeah. Have you heard anything? No. So Steffi Cohen, do you know who she is, Trey? No. Long time power lifter. Kind of like big in the hybrid athlete scene for a while.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Hybrid gym down in Miami. She was dating the guy there for a long time. She turned boxer, clearly went on some gear, started to look a little bit different. You can just, the cat's attacking. Okay, who would win in a fight? A 12-week-old kitten or a sub 200-pound male? I'm going
Starting point is 00:59:08 kitten. Have you seen this kitten? Kitten's wild. Who's Jordy? You talking about PJ? Oh, PJ. Bingo. She's a beast, though. Beast, like deadlifts like 500.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I was going to say 585, maybe 600. Oh, you want to be Cohen? I thought about Waylon. I was like, just grab him. Oh, yeah, him to me. He won't he won't take it. He's a crazy cat. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:59:43 a million followers on Instagram instagram kind of a big account um reached out to us for some stranko plates once gave them to her send them to her never did anything with them that was a little disappointing uh yeah interesting um person a lot of fitness advice whatever whatever boxing turned into a boxer has done some fights i don't know like what league or what federation or what it is but boxing whatever um leaving her house in miami on tuesday and the cops are there and they're like hey you need to come with us and she just like turns around so they wait till she like comes out of her house is like walking down the neighborhood she just turns around like starts like walking quickly back to
Starting point is 01:00:28 her house and they're like no ma'am you have to come with us she's like i'm not going with you so they go up they handcuff her and they arrest her and then she does like a leg sweep on one of the officers takes him down they get her in the car and then she unlocks the the door with her toes you know like the little like single thing and breaks the door handle goes inside you know whatever and she's getting arrested for going her ex-boyfriend who she used to live with had left his laptop in her house and had nude pictures of his current girlfriend and she took the photos and like group messaged him to a bunch of people that the girl was on and like had told the girl like i'm going to like humiliate you and like all this stuff
Starting point is 01:01:19 and uh yeah so she's out on a 3300 bail uh bail. Oh, it's fairly white. It was just interesting. Like, it's very niche. No one that doesn't follow powerlifting would have any idea who this person is. But if you've, like, followed powerlifting or CrossFit for a long time, she's kind of like, I don't know, a decade's worth of, like, you know, content. Like, original. I don't want to say original, but one of the early people in the animal cage. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:49 She's our guest next week. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I thought you called the cops on her because she had paid for a street cup. Yeah. I kind of want to because it was like a trial deal. hey you get them you can either post
Starting point is 01:02:07 content or if you don't like him you can send them back and they're just like gone uh but anyway yeah so that's the uh that's the update there I thought it was funny if you're in the lifting scene like a bunch of people send it to me today um so stephy cohen miami miami mi Miami's a vibe. She got 34 felonies. Well, 34 convictions. Convictions. Tell you what, you start talking about Bitcoin, you go to jail. That's just how it works. Apparently.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Oh, man. Former presidents. Everybody. Price of Bitcoin, $68,527. There you have it. I'll take it. Woo. Next slide.
Starting point is 01:02:46 By the way, that news is going to be old by the time this thing airs. I saw she had a press conference today. And when I say press conference, she put a little word create thing on her Instagram story that was like, I'll be live at this time for my press conference. And I was like, wait, is this? Oh, she's just going live. And we're going to work for her there. No, it's just her going live.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Probably like giving her side of the story. I need to go back and watch it on a tripod. She called me. This is actually a press conference right now. Trey. Anything with a phone. That's an emergency press conference. Any with a video and a microphone and a bass and a bass fish that sings don't worry
Starting point is 01:03:26 be hey that came up a year you were born grand. Yeah, dude. I know you. You know how I know this because when I was a kid, we would go to Cracker Barrels on the way to Massachusetts big Boston guy here and we'd we drive until
Starting point is 01:03:41 it's time to eat. We go to Cracker Barrel. We'd sit down and my dad would immediately say seven waters all the way around. And we want double the biscuits. Like before the woman even said good afternoon. And then my mom would be like, I still want some golden bread. He'd be like, make sure it's a couple pieces, but mostly biscuits. And then they say on the Cracker Barrel menu, kids meal, kids of any age. So then they come back with theacker Barrel menu, kids meal, kids of any age.
Starting point is 01:04:11 So then they come back with the seven waters all the way around and the biscuits. And then my dad's like, seven chicken finger kids meals all the way around. I don't know why I had to say all the way around. Obviously, there's seven of us. And then we got to pick our sides. But then when we would leave, my mom or my dad or both would get a sweet tea. And then when we needed gas, we'd only stop at Cracker Barrels,
Starting point is 01:04:35 and they'd walk in. And it was like a thing that Cracker Barrel said was allowed. It's not like my parents were stealing, where you could take your Cracker Barrel cup and show that you've been at another Cracker Barrel on the same day and get a free refill. And so I would just go in and look for davy crockett hats and then they had these books that used to be popular that were like years so it'd be like 1987 19199 1990 then the barrel of fake muskets and yeah but the 1988 the 1988 one is where I learned that the song Don't Worry, Be Happy. Well, it came out my birthday.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I learned that in a Cracker Barrel. And then they started selling the fish. In some Cracker Barrels, usually in Tennessee, not only did they have the barrel of muskets, but they also had the powder horns. And I was always looking for a powder horn. Yeah, anyway, sorry. Cracker Barrel.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Long live. What about we tied all that together everything's connected that makes sense that's right that's right do you want to do slack questions yeah we do let's do a slack question sure you are tell us about this segment how does how does it come together so usually we reach out reach out to the Slack community that we've gathered together. I say we, like I had anything to do with it. That grant has gathered together a bunch of Slackers. We asked them to post some questions pertaining to lifting predominantly. It could be about anything.
Starting point is 01:06:03 But yeah, no, if you have any questions or uh one just to feel part of the show part of the community please join the slack channel and grant will explain how we do that it's in the show notes it's in the show notes yeah it's in the show notes for $20 a month you can go to the strength.co, click media, look at all our sick thumbnails, and then go to the bottom and say, I want help coaching. Join Slack. You can join us on Slack. Get your form checked. Get a program if you need it.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Post pictures of your food. Get movie recommendations. Talk about what movies you're watching. It's basically like the OK podcast come to life with some lifting mixed in. So, yeah, join us in the selection. But anyway, so we got a couple questions this week. And I know there's like 10
Starting point is 01:06:54 dumb ones where people were like trying to be funny. So they're all people that I know. I mean, I kind of know everyone in there, but read one of them. So like the other nine people are mad that their dumb question didn't get read but you don't have to start with that you can start with a real one cool um first one i was going to start with it's like i think it's been in there a couple times now uh this one comes from this great name great name Great name. Great name. Barkley West. Oh, yeah. Citadel grad.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Class of 2009. BW. BW. Connects. Whoa. Not the same guy. There's two BWs. Different BW. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 The other one's last name is Tax. Barkley West's been doing my taxes. And Scott Alton diderton a couple times. He was very convincing. Wrong guy. Wrong BW. Embarrassing. Good thing you only did your Texas state taxes.
Starting point is 01:07:56 That's true. Yeah. He wants to talk about Garmin watches. Grant, I think specifically the one that you wear. Talk about, I don't know if you like some of the functions, the features, things you like, things you don't like. What do you use it for? I remember his initial question. And the bad part is, is I don't know the answer, but I have the Garmin Solar Tactical. I i like it i'm very pro apple products i don't like
Starting point is 01:08:26 apple watches they look no offense to any users but they look fragile to me i don't like the way they look on my arm battery life i don't like that i have to charge it every day and i am don't get me started on charging things jeff like the that's a whole episode that we'll do later but i like i am down to charge essential gear constantly but like my watch does not need to be charged every night or every day i think that's ridiculous so it lasts like 12 days on a full battery now if you do a bunch of workouts climbs um runs whatever and you're like running extra stuff you have all your notifications on it goes on like six seven days i like that it's not colored like so it's just like you know what do you call that analog looking or I don't know black and white yellow and black black and yellow um anyway he
Starting point is 01:09:14 was asking though when I went fishing if the satellites GPS worked on it and all I know is like when I go to a place with no service, it says acquiring satellites. But then I never look at it again. So like I don't I don't actually know. It might. Yeah. No, I think it is. But like, what's it going to give me a lot long?
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah, it can give you like whatever format you have it set up for. Yeah. Are you not constantly GPS? Yeah. You're not constantly navigating mgrs this is 2024 i'm used to i'm used to a blue dot and a map and i oh oh that's north oh they're south uh yeah so i don't know barclay i know it will say yeah so i have the forerunner it's like the the cheaper one of that.
Starting point is 01:10:06 And 4Runner's pretty good. Battery life's real good. It does all the bare essentials. What's your battery life on that? I usually get like probably five or six days. Yeah. I get about a week. But it's, I mean, it's super easy to use. It has everything that I need with it. But
Starting point is 01:10:21 as far as fishing GPS's go, I use the one that I had in the Marine Corps. If it's a good spot... You kept that dagger you found? Yep. It fell off the truck. It's actually a
Starting point is 01:10:37 Blue Force tracker that I just hold. I found a BFT, a Bitcoin ledger, and a dagger. Bunch of modeling gear. Wait, which ones did you use in the Marine Corps? Oh, like the little Garmin. We all had them watching. Yeah, but I had the handheld one,
Starting point is 01:10:55 like the bigger one with the color screen on it. It really looks like a GPS navigation in the car because it has the arrow and the point where you want to go has a blue line that just like takes you there. So, so do you drop like a good fishing point? You just like drop. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:11:11 dude. So like I'm going up to Canada here in like two weeks and there's no cell phone service up there, but this is my third time going. And so when we find a good spot for like a small mouth bass, I'll mark it. And it's just like, cause I marked where we stay and then the good bass spots.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah, man, it's super convenient. I've I do something similar. I guess I should look into see what my watch offers, but I usually grab my phone. And once you leave service, it says, do you want to acquire satellites? Like if you have find my friends on to be able to share your location and like for a safety reason when I'm fishing by myself i'm like yeah of course so it like has you like look for the satellite and then hold then look left and look right and then you pick up the satellites
Starting point is 01:11:52 and then whenever i find a spot usually it's like maybe where i park or maybe sometimes like you'll park at a pull off but you might have to walk some distance to find like somewhat of a trail to like get down into the ravine to get to the river. So I'll like drop a pen and then I'll save it and then I'll screenshot it. And then after every fishing trip, I have like a notes pad. So I upload the image of where I went. I put what I did, like what the month was, what flies worked. I haven't like, I mean, I've gone back to reference like, oh, I want to fish that stretch of river.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Like I can't really remember because it's just like you're like driving through the forest and you're like, oh, pull off here. And so I've used it for that. Like that was a good stretch of river, like water I like. But yeah, anyway, I guess maybe the watch could do that. Barclay, hit us up on Slack when you listen. Let us know if I'm missing out on features. All big Garmin watch guys. Love that.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah, sponsor Garmin. Give me one of these dumb questions. Oh, dumb question? Yeah. It's a real easy one. Looking to make sure my question is answered this time this is from mike benner by the way mike benner i see him a lot very active on the slack very very active first guy to put like the little emojis on a sentence love it love it yeah looking to make
Starting point is 01:13:19 sure my question is answered this time so obviously he's answered he's asked multiple questions that maybe we didn't get to it happens sometimes all right so he doesn't have a question this week though so i'm going to be the first one to ask with a simple yes or no question do you guys actually answer the questions we ask here on the podcast no yes oh yeah Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. To answer your question, no, we don't answer the question. Does he listen this far in? That's what I want to know. Listen, Mike Benner, sometimes we have special guests. We got Steffi Kellen next week.
Starting point is 01:13:57 We got Donald Trump live from Mar-a-Lago the week after. We can't always get to the Slack questions. Huge. That's good. That's good. Huge. Good question That's good. That's good. Huge. Good question. Great question.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I like, is it true that happiness is a 45 in your hands? Yes, it's true. Well, if it's a string, well, I didn't know if it was a 45 plate,
Starting point is 01:14:16 like a 45 caliber gun. 45. Yeah. Shoot. You know, Ooh, Ooh, a 40 ounce. A 45. Ah, ah, ah, A 40-ounce. A 45. A 40.
Starting point is 01:14:29 A 40. A 40. A 40. A 40. Okay. A real question this time. Real question. This one comes from Kevin Myers.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Do we know anything about Kevin? I like him, Michael. He's got a great USA hat in his photo yeah he's rocking a good mustache i think he's been here like a month all right goes by kev his friend's called kev that's what we all call him big kev he's a big bw guy yeah he loves bw loves bw tax so for kevin's question he's like how reasonable is it to continue adding weight to the bar towards the ends of a end of a fat loss phase? And or should you be OK with no progress on lifts for a few months while you get your body fat under control? You want to stab at that, Jeff?
Starting point is 01:15:23 Gosh. Yeah. I mean, I think expectations need to be tempered. If you're going to be in a caloric deficit and you're also trying to add weight on the bar, there's going to be a tipping point where that's no longer sustainable. And you may see progress slow. You may see there be some deterioration in performance. Because, I mean, if your goal is fat loss at that point, you know, that's your goal.
Starting point is 01:15:53 So that's what you're driving towards. So you just may have to sacrifice some weight being added to the bar and be okay with that. Because, all right, once you're kind of back to a body fat level that you're comfortable with and what you were trying to strive for, then you can start to, all right, hey, now I can start to work on dialing in my diet. So you can put weight back on the bar, but not necessarily also be adding body fat that you just lost. Yeah, I'd agree. Yeah, I'd agree. And I think to like, I don't know his exact training history, but I think to make a simple answer is so much depends on how long you've been training and your training adaptation. So what Jeff said, spot on. If you're in a caloric deficit and you're losing weight, it's going to be harder to get stronger. However, if you're, and I can tell Kevin's
Starting point is 01:16:46 not from his profile picture, but if you're a 300 pound person and you've been sedentary and you're super weak because you've never lifted and you're trying to get down to 225 and you're starting to lift, like you can probably make progress for like a lot of that time because you're so detrained. It's like, um, Ripito has that line of like, some people get stronger from riding a bicycle because like they don't use their quads to produce any force and they ride a bicycle and it's like, it's something. And so that works for a little while. Um, so I, yeah, I think it depends a lot in your training advancement. Um, but yeah, what Jeff said, if you've been
Starting point is 01:17:26 training for two years pretty consistently and you're like, hey, I'm at 22%, 25% body fat. I want to get my body fat down. I'm going to diet. You can't expect to go into the gym and keep adding weight to the bar. Can I tack on a dumb question onto that? Onto that good question?
Starting point is 01:17:41 Do you think it matters on, let's say, the type of diet that you do? Let's say no carb diet. Do you think it matters on, let's say, the type of diet that you do? So, like, let's say, like, no-carb diet. Like, do you think that you might have different effects? First of all, let's say someone says, or is it caloric deficit? Just caloric deficit. You know what I'm trying to say? I mean, I would say caloric deficit is a caloric deficit, obviously.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I mean, what is will be, right? Yeah. But I will say, if you go to you go like let's say you do a carnivore or keto diet and you've been training fed you'll go through like a three-week period of where your body adjusts to running off fats so like yes you're not going to be able to go i mean you might again if you're detrained you'll be able to go up or maybe you've just been eating like fritos and like now like you're eating protein and so like maybe there's some benefits but yeah i think i think the type
Starting point is 01:18:29 of diet does matter i think if you go to like a no carb diet initially your training will suffer and then your body will adapt to doing it and then versus if you're just doing like a chicken and rice like right smaller portions yeah right and then they like like all ex-people were mad when I was doing carnivore because you would train better if you were eating carbs. And I'm like, that's probably true. That's probably true. But once I adapted
Starting point is 01:18:56 to only eating meat, you can definitely train and still get strong because your body's adapted to it. My problem with no-carb diets this is now a side note to the side note, but is that most people don't actually like get into ketosis and follow them. Right. So like maybe Monday through Thursday,
Starting point is 01:19:16 they eat keto, but then they're like, Oh, I made it Friday. I'm going to eat a pizza. And then it's like, they have like all these blood sugar responses. And I mean,
Starting point is 01:19:24 again, I'll tell you doing carnivore for like 45 days, like eating no carbs. Is wild and it's wild socially and it's wild, like when you're home by yourself and like you eat a T-bone, which I love. But I don't think most people actually do it because, I mean, it's – remember when we went to get your engagement ring? Yep. We went to some Mexican place. To get to that ring or to eat?
Starting point is 01:19:52 Yeah, to get to the ring. It was like El Paso special. We went to El Paso, Texas, crossed out into Juarez. A lot of great things. No, we ate tacos at a ring. We ate and left to go get food. And there was like a, I don't know, we were in downtown Charlotte, like a swanky Mexican place. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, this one dish, it's like steak, eggs, rice, beans, some kind of sauce.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And I'm like, hey, I want this, but i just want the steak and the eggs and the person's like oh what you broke that broke their brain like like you know how you put all the stuff on top and i'm like so it's difficult like you to eat out and do stuff but anyway that's a side note to the side so then you don't prescribe to cheat days then well no i would it just depends what kind of like i think diets are 100 on to you understanding your personality okay and what you will comply to i do think there's some people that like intermittent fasting works great do i think that there's like a bunch of special things that happen with intermittent fasting not really but i think if some people don't eat till 1 PM,
Starting point is 01:21:09 their overall caloric intake over the course of the day goes down. And like that works well for some people. Some people wake up and they don't eat and like they want to kill everyone. So, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't work. You just got to find what works for you. Yeah. So like some people, Hey, I just want to eat chicken and rice and broccoli. And on Saturday, I want to go eat cheeseburgers. Like, okay. Overall, your caloric deficit, your calorie intake came down. That works for you. There's some people that I'm like, hey, do keto or do carnivore. Based off what you're telling me, I think this fits well for you. My point is keto and carnivore, my knocks on it are a lot of people that say they're doing it aren't. It's like if you're eating keto, but then you're going to Whole Foods and buying keto fudge and keto granola bars, you've now defeated the purpose of doing this style of, and you're eating now fake, highly processed stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:07 So you just kind of have to figure out what works. No, that makes sense. Yeah. Good question, Kev. Love it. Big old Kev. Big old Kev. One more?
Starting point is 01:22:19 We can't answer them all, or Mike Benner will have nothing to be mad about. Do you want to do one more? We got one there's another good one in there okay i think this will be a repeat question asker uh daniel i might just put scooby i always say scooby in my mind it might be Scoob. Could be Scoob. Or Scooby. It could be Scooby. It could be Scooby. Ooh. Ooh, wow. But we'll just call him Scooby-Doo.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Scooby. Scooby-Doo. Scooby. All right, Scooby. This question, right. So we've talked about, you know, benchmarks for kind of your major barbell lifts. And so now he's asking,
Starting point is 01:23:04 what would be good benchmarks for like, you know, upper back strength? And he wants to know about weighted chin-ups, bent over rows. Like, are there kind of benchmarks that you talk about or consider like good if people are kind of progressing in those,
Starting point is 01:23:20 what we would probably call accessory kind of lifts or just like ancillary lifts? I don't know, but I feel like you should be able to do 10 chin-ups. Yeah. what we would probably call accessory kind of lifts or just like ancillary lifts. I don't know, but I feel like you should be able to do 10 chin-ups. Yeah, he's asking, like, is there a weighted deal, I assume? Yeah, I mean, he said weighted, but I was like, you know. I'm with you on that. I feel like you're, I feel like you're, to translate, I might be wrong translating this question,
Starting point is 01:23:42 that he's saying, like, you said 225 is a good benchmark for right right so he's asking but for weighted like how much weight is a good weighted pull up yeah pull up or bent over row are there are there benchmarks dude if you could i always say if i if i see a dude doing pull-ups with a 45 attached to him, that dude's moving some weight. I mean, so I'm kind of, I think PJ is on to something with like, if you can pull yourself up, like a real pull-up, right? Like, I'm not saying it has to be go down to the bottom. But yeah, like if you can do that 10 times,
Starting point is 01:24:24 you're probably in a pretty healthy body weight and a pretty decent strength level um so or you may be at an unhealthy body weight because you're so light um but like i think i think 10 pull-ups is good um yeah i think a 45 or more you should do like for the bent over rows and those other exercises, it's a percentage of your deadlift, right? So I get your like, Trey doesn't train bent over rows, but he can deadlift 500 pounds. I bet he can go to 60% of his deadlift for a set of five and barbell rows. Like, so like, I know I wouldn't focus on, hey, what should I be at for bent over rows?
Starting point is 01:25:10 I would say get your deadlift up to, you know, for a young guy like Daniel, minimum two X body weight. I think like a really good one is 2.5. Like that's a real, like if I see a guy that can do 2.5, I'm not talking power lifters, forget Instagram exists, talk about normal people. See somebody who can do a 2.5 body weight deadlift. That's good. But two X body weight deadlift is great too. Um, and then if you can do that, you're going to be able to go
Starting point is 01:25:36 and row something respectable. Um, what's respectable. I don't, I mean, it depends on the size of the guy, his body weight, you know, all that kind of stuff. But if a guy's got a 405 deadlift for five, he can go and rep out 225 in a bent over row. But I wouldn't make that a metric personally. On that, what's your PR for weighted pull-ups? For reps or for weight? Weight. Most weight I've done is I did 100 pounds for three reps. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:26:11 That's pretty good. That's good. And I'll be the first to tell you right now, I could not do that right now, but old Mike Minigel, we got to get him on here sometime. Marine First Lieutenant. We got really into that at one point.
Starting point is 01:26:24 We were just doing weighted, weighted, weighted. We're like, hey, we're adding five pounds no matter what. If we get one rep, we get one rep. Then we had another day where we did five by five. Another day, we did body weight. That's
Starting point is 01:26:40 impressive, maybe, but that's actually not as hard as you think um like it sounds cool it sounds it sounds cool but it's actually like i know you can put a 45 on you and do one like i'd i'd wager you might be able to do 85 90 pounds plus your body weight right now for one right um i can see that. Maybe. If Caleb did 85, you'd definitely do 90. I'd do 86. Amen, brother.
Starting point is 01:27:11 We don't sell half-pound plates. You'd do 87.5. 87.5. Yep. Thanks, Daniel. Good question. Good question. We got more slides that pretty much wraps it up so now we're just gonna say any alibis save rounds well maybe we hit one more question then we got we're an hour and 30 we got an hour and 44 minutes of record
Starting point is 01:27:39 time yeah we're coming out we're coming out of the wire here still got an ad read to do trey takes like five minutes to sign off. Quick question with no subways. Make the listeners happy. Let's see. Let's see. We've got Christopher
Starting point is 01:27:57 Cabanaro. Jersey, baby. Jersey cop. Yeah, I remember. He says, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember uh and he says please talk more about how you change up the focus of lifting every few months and how this helps to get lifters stronger uh lifters stronger example the next x amount of weeks is squat and bench focus etc so like kind of how i think what he's looking for is like how do you kind of like break up your your year in terms of like kind of different like training cycles to focus on certain lists probably like a little more intermediate lifter focused
Starting point is 01:28:38 um kind of programming yeah i'm guessing smart smart cop down there up there in jersey too i'm guessing he's probably he's in our. So if you join our Slack, we like three different programming threads and their percentage based and therefore intermediate lifters. And we actually we lose some people in Slack because they join. And the first thing we ask them is, hey, have you ever run a novice program? And if they say no, we send them a series of videos and instruction packet of like, hey, I can put you on a program where you're squatting 70% of your one RM, but you don't have a one RM. I recommend you run this for the next six weeks and post your heaviest lifts in the form check channel so that we can look and see if you've gotten those easy gains out of the way. And the reason I bring that up is if you've actually gotten strong, like you've actually run that novice program out, then you can't expect to PR every lift, every cycle program, block, quarter, whatever you want to call it. Just because, you know, if you got a 550 pound deadlift and a
Starting point is 01:29:45 365 pound bench and a 500 pound squat and a 250, 250 pound press, like that's a lot of work to make any of those go up. So like in the program that he's in, which is just our basic intermediate program, I call it Grant's program channel. Right now, they're on a squat and bench bias program. So they're only pressing once a week. They're benching twice a week. And I do that just because I want people to have progress. Nothing's better than individualized, personalized programming based off your goals where a coach is looking for all that. But I get it. Not everyone wants to pay a car payment a month for their lifting, especially if they're already strong. They're just like, Hey, I need something to go do. And like, yes, I want to make progress. And so I kind of skew the programs to like, Hey, over these next 14 weeks, this is going to be squat and bench, you know, biased in the hopes
Starting point is 01:30:40 that they PR both of those or one of those. Um I think any lifter that becomes an intermediate, look, we're not all Steffi Cohen's here. We're not, we're not all Mike Tyson's here. That's what we got to close with this. Jordy, we got to talk about Tyson Paul. We're not all like, not everyone's going to deadlift six 85. Like you got to be real with yourself. If you actually run the novice program hard and you finish and you have a 420 pound deadlift, man, unless you start doing this for a living and taking a bunch of gear, like you're
Starting point is 01:31:13 not going to deadlift 600. If you ran that program hard, like maybe over the next five years, you get to 500. Like I'm not saying that's not possible, but you have to like kind of be realistic with yourself. And so once you run the program and you get your numbers up, I just think it's good for people to like, look at their year and like say, Hey, first quarter, I want to PR my press. Like that's my number one goal. So now we press more, maybe we do pin pressing, we do more accessories, whatever. Second quarter, I'm going to PR my squat. Hey, we're going to eat well. We're going to be at the upper end of the body weight that we're happy with, you know, boom, boom, boom. And then, you know, summertime, I've often encouraged people like, hey, let's lose five, 10 pounds. Let's run an eight minute mile. You know,
Starting point is 01:31:55 nothing like crazy, but like, let's refocus the train. You're still lifting, you're still working hard, but let's pick a new goal to try. And I think otherwise, a lot of people, the problem with like people that run on starting strength or strong lifts or, you know, any of these NLP programs is they're like progress, progress, progress, progress, progress, progress, progress, progress, no progress, no progress, no progress. You know what? I'm going to run an ultra marathon, which I have no problem with if someone wants to do that but then they just quit lifting all together and it's like no you just have to realize that like you have to kind of like reframe your goals so if lifting is what you enjoy the most
Starting point is 01:32:35 hey let's just make it so you can pr this one lift and keep going uh but i i like to encourage people like hey um cool you can deadlift 2x body weight let's see if you can do 20 sets of pull-ups like that might take you three months to get there but you know like and just kind of get new goals and then but people are like all i care is about lifting okay we're just going to focus on one lift we're still going to do the other ones but we're going to like focus on one so hopefully do you think if you change the name of novice to like the green program that you might keep more people do you think it's just the word novice that people get afraid of no no i i don't actually think it's that i think i mean maybe you're like maybe you're onto something
Starting point is 01:33:17 people i just didn't know like somebody who's like people want to buy a template right actually what i've thought about is like, hey, I need a novice channel. And but like, I don't know how to post it in there and make it exciting. I didn't develop this. There's two workouts, workout A and workout B. It's three by five of these four exercises. You add five pounds. So like most people that come in and they answer those questions, they go, oh, thanks.
Starting point is 01:33:44 And they start lifting and they get strong. It's like, Oh, I get it now. Why you didn't put me on this intermediate program. Um, but yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:33:52 I could probably sell more stuff if I made it like sound cool and sexy or whatever. Call the loser program. Yeah. I didn't know if someone was coming in, who's like lifted a while and they've never run the novice program. It's like, I'm not a novice.
Starting point is 01:34:04 And then they just like turn around and walk away you know what i mean i mean i think that's where that i think that's like where jeff and i were like jeff and i were living in carlsbad running jim windler's 531 you know i'd already read starting strength for like form wise but i was like i'm not a novice but you want me to go on a stupid program and then jeff when he was on the mu and me a little bit before that i was like i'm just gonna do this like even though i've been lifting for you know eight years or ten years or whatever it was at the time and then i'm like whoa i'm squatting in the mid-fours like this is way cooler than you know taking 70% of my.
Starting point is 01:34:45 It actually works. Yeah. Yeah, it works. And so, but people have to, but some people like, you know, the Slack channel and just the strength in general, because we sell plates to so many people, reaches like a wider swath now. Right. So like some people are just like, hey, I just want to pay you for a workout. And we're trying to convince them like hey you need to get stronger and they're like well yeah so like i'll squat and i'll deadlift
Starting point is 01:35:10 and it's like no but like you need to do more weight and they're like i don't care about that like i just want something to follow yeah and so we try to tell them hey good on this path i mean i have people too that i'm like watch this video it's called how to start starting strength okay i watch it now watch this video what is starting strength how to start starting strength. Okay. I watch it. Now watch this video. What is starting strength? Okay. I watch it. Okay. Run that program for the next four weeks. Post your things at form checks. I don't want to, I just literally want to program. My best squad is two Oh five. Okay. Here you are. You're in this channel. Now you're going to be squatting 65% of two Oh five. Do I think that's ideal? No, but I got a business to run. That's what you want to do. Yeah. Make you happy.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Amen. That's the service you wanted. Go for it. Give the people what they want. Give the people what they want. I've had people look at those programs and they think the novice, intermediate, advanced are like, oh, I don't want novice results or intermediate results. I want advanced results.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Yeah. You know, it's called a novice program. The advanced results. Yeah. You know, it's called a novice program. The advanced program. Now, do you just, do you just like, how do you cope with, how do you cope with, uh,
Starting point is 01:36:09 like a 14 week program? Like, do you just arbitrarily pick this length of time or is it like, honestly, it's mostly stuff that like I've run over the years trial. That just works. You're like, Hey,
Starting point is 01:36:18 this is, I've seen this work. So what I found for most intermediates, if they've actually gone through the novice phase and they've actually got strong, is that they show up to the gym three times a week and run a program for 14 weeks. They'll PR something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:30 And so I obviously put thought into it, but it's not rocket science. But some people are signing up because they're like, hey, I wasn't doing anything, and now 30 a month so i'm gonna follow this and they yeah and but when i see someone when i see someone running an intermediate program and they post into that they just added 100 pounds to their squat i'm like you weren't an intermediate that's what i think i mean that yeah that's like that yeah that's not accurate all right we gotta shut it down here in five minutes, right? Yep. Alright, so give us a second. Tyson Paul. I'll just say that there wasn't much that happened this week.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Mike Tyson posted a tweet or a post that said now feeling 100% even though I don't need to be to beat Jake Paul. Nice. 57 and bringing the heat. Didn't he have like a health scare or something like that on a flight or something yeah there's something like that so i'm kind of worried about
Starting point is 01:37:31 it but i just try not to think about that because i i'm rooting for root for for mike over here okay if a gator beats a longhorn who wins a tyson or a gator mike oh my god tyson or a gator mike oh my god yeah yeah exactly if you were here's a random question you answer in 30 seconds if you were training let's say not say mike tyson but like a normal real actual human um and they were you know from the time they were 27 to the time they're 57, what's the difference in their training? Cause I'm thinking like, what's Mike Tyson going to be missing from his prime? You know, he's still got the skill there. It's really hard to talk. Yeah. It's really hard to talk with professional athletes. I'd say like joints and stuff like that, uh, in general though, like a normal, like a normal human i would say they they can handle less volume less volume less volume like like my dad lifts twice a week he's 68
Starting point is 01:38:30 uh and he looks pretty heavy so what that translates to in terms of like your actual performance like your your gas tank is smaller or your uh i think i think your your your car is just older and like can't handle as much cumulative stress. Like you can't get in the 97 Chevy and floor it every time you're at a stoplight. You got to go low and slow, baby. Yeah. Well, we can we can pull a trailer if we need to. Now, there you go. All right, Trey.
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