The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 25: Artillery, Fishing, Boston & Baby PR’s
Episode Date: June 21, 2024Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Tex...an, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Join the Slack and Use code OKAY: https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ks Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Carolina Geography 05:54 - YouTube Blew Up 15:15 - Hit The Baby PR 21:07 - Jeff and Tres Join 23:54 - Where was Jeff? 28:20 - Artillery 39:55 - Tres Fishing Trip 51:50 - Grant’s Boston Trip 01:07:10 - Tom Brady Hall of Fame 01:1146 - Lobster vs Crab 01:15:46 - Fasting 01:21:54 - Sturgill Simpson 01:26:40 - Songwriters vs Performers 01:36:07 - Tres Sign Off
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All right. And welcome back to episode 025 of the OK podcast powered by the Strength Co.
Today's date is June 18th in the year of our Lord 2024. Don't look at that. The price of
Bitcoin is $65,123, but I'm not worried because the 2024 NBA champs are the Boston Celtics.
I'm sure we'll talk about that later. We'll get you the block height because we never want to
forget about Zach Copley. We are recording to you live, live now, recorded later. That's why
it's a recording from the great upstate of South Carolina upstate that's what I
wanted to talk about upstate that's what I want to talk about I was fortunate enough last week
to be on an episode 428 dude yeah think about that for a second 428 podcast from asonomics
is it weekly yeah it's weekly since the end of time and they were like I don't remember a week
when this don't doesn't exist uh but for people that don't know who Masonomics is, podcast up in Western Northeast,
South Dakota, and some other parts because somebody moved. But they're on episode 428.
I was the guest. We talked about a lot of stuff, talked about business-related things,
talked about social media-related things. We talked about South Dakota related things, but one thing that
they really thought was interesting was they, uh, so they, that whole Western Northeast South
Dakota things like a shtick. Yeah. It's funny. Yeah. It's funny. I've never set up state South
Carolina to be funny. Oh, well, there's a joke. This is a reference to a location. It's a, it's
a real thing. And so they asked me about it
and they're like, we've never, we've never heard anyone say that. And I was like, oh, I didn't
even think of that. Um, so if you're unfamiliar, well, actually let me ask you, so you're from
Greenville, North Carolina, I'm going to say from loosely, but, uh, you live there half from,
what did you call that location? Eastern North Carolina, Eastern North Carolina. Okay. So you
just went compass compass. There's there's Eastern's eastern there's like central piedmont region and there's western
like the mountains okay so there's piedmont yeah yeah all like the raleigh area like all in the
middle of it yeah north carolina is a weird state because it's got it's long it's long so you cover
like a ton of geographical uh features that's like why it's kind of an interesting state to live in
because then i'm going to compare it to South Carolina, which I think is
way different. Oh, I'm going to get the definition
way wrong, but it's just a lot flatter.
Okay. So like the word Piedmont
means that? Or is there like a...
I should look it up, actually. A little
Google. A little Goog. Because I didn't
realize, I didn't think about it really until
after that podcast of
how we
say things here in the south and maybe it's out
of ignorance um yeah the piedmont region is the middle region of the state listen listen like that
i paid attention but what's the word piedmont mean yeah so it means middle region of the state
it comes from the italian peed foot and mont hill oh i should know this yeah you're italian dude yeah
so it's just it's the foothills.
Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Okay. So in South Carolina, I am from the low country,
the low country, which I never thought was interesting. I mean, I always thought it was interesting, but I didn't think of like the words. I, the only thing I thought was interesting about
the word, the low country was that it's not a real word. Yeah. And we have like a low country
technical college. So it's like a college you go to that uses a word. That's not a real word. Yeah. And we have like a low country technical college.
So it's like a college you go to that uses a word
that's not a word in its own name.
I like that.
We thought that kind of stuff was funny.
But so in South County, you have the low country,
which would be like your Beaufort, Charleston,
as you head up north a little bit towards like St. George.
And then you have the PD.
Oh, PD.
PD.
Okay.
P-E-D-E.
P-E-E-D-E-E.
Like if D went P.
The PD region.
I'm always going to remember that.
Okay.
Oh, I see it.
It's like in the upper right corner.
Upper right corner.
And then you have the Midlands, which is like, so PD is like Florence, Timminsville, that kind of area. Then you have the Midlands, which is like so pd's like florence timmonsville that kind of area then
you have the midlands which is like columbia yep and the greater and then you have the upstate
and so uh actually growing up as a gamecock fan upstate was kind of like
i well to be real clear the new coach of the gamecocks for the baseball team
came in and he went to like throw a dig against Clemson.
Yeah. He's like, I'll tell you one thing. The Midlands is a lot better than the upstate.
Okay. Which we're making the upstate grading in over here. So that's why we record from here.
That's a long explanation. That was a deep dive. Yeah. That we're recording from here,
but I never thought of low country, like literally marsh, literally low land upstate,
literally the bottom of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
It's literally on a slant.
Peaty, Midlands in the middle.
I don't know.
By the way, we called it Eastern North Carolina,
but the geographical term is the coastal plain.
Coastal plains.
That sounds good.
Yeah.
You were referring to the type of barbecue sauce.
That's all I do.
That's how I refer to the country.
Which is a fun map to look at.
I like both of the Carolinas combined,
and I like barbecue sauce from both of them.
Because it crosses the border.
Yeah, which makes it interesting.
Yeah, it gets weird.
It gets weird.
But anyway, so there you have it.
We're from the upstate of South Carolina.
Block height is 848-551.
Justin Timberlake's in jail.
He's probably out now.
I think he's out now.
Yeah, something about late last night or early this morning.
Arrested, I think, in the Hamptons or in New York or something like that.
Hey, if you're going to get arrested, it's a nice place to do it.
Arrested DWI.
So going from L-sit pull-ups with a medicine ball to DWI is just partying.
Drugs, though, right?
Some kind of drug.
I think it was party drugs.
So he wasn't driving under the influence.
He was driving with the influence.
Or while intoxicated, I think.
I thought it was the whole Jesus take the wheel deal.
It was influence.
Yeah, I guess not.
Driving with the spirit.
Yeah.
Let's see.
What's new?
Our YouTube is blowing up.
Yeah, YouTube.
Yeah, the...
I'm blanking.
The plate video.
Yeah, so I remember...
Every now and then, I'll just go into YouTube analytics and studio
and just hang around.
I don't do that every day, three times a day.
No, of course not.
And I'm like, why have our total channel views
gone up like a hockey stick in the last few days?
And I'm like, okay, well, there's going to be something.
So I'm looking through the top videos and that one short that we kind of remixed with Ripito talking
about your plates where I was called a grifter, the grifter, the grifter reel. Yeah. Yeah. The
grifter reel. And, uh, I think it's 500 and something, 568, 5688 000 views and climbing yeah what was interesting about it is you make a little
reel like that sometimes you help me edit them sometimes i do a you know to a dumb soundtrack
and you post them and you think like this is nothing compared to me sitting at the desk
making a 15 minute instructional and helpful and And then I looked at that stats.
How many subscribers do you think we got from that? Or you may have seen it.
I can't remember. I bet it was.
What do you think it was?
I bet it was 150.
741.
That is wild.
When I checked.
Subscribers.
Wild.
Yeah. So keep the shorts coming, guys. guys apparently which the guys that make the
shorts are these two guys but uh no we need we need people talking about his plates yes
yeah you that's all we need we'll grift you and uh sorry the cats like trying to unplug things
and bite into cords makes it fun uh but yeah that video did well and then um some other shorts are
blowing up yeah the mile
time and the tips for your overhead press yep they like we're going it's like you look at the
view chart and it like i love hockey sticks it spikes up and then most of them spike up and then
they flatten out and they kind of die and then these ones though every now and then you get one
that spikes up and flattens out and then randomly just looks like Bitcoin just goes to the moon. That's right.
It's not random.
No, it's not. It's well thought out.
Yeah, everything goes
exactly to plan. Part of the plan.
So tomorrow,
we'll do a video on
a little training
vlog with Placido
Santos, my cousin. We got to get him on here.
I didn't talk to him about that, but now that I'm saying his name while I'm on the podcast, I am thinking about that. We got to get Placido Santos, my cousin. We got to get him on here. I didn't talk to him about that,
but now that I'm saying his name while I'm on the podcast, I am thinking about that.
We got to get Placido on here. The star of how to get jacked. Yeah. Star of how to get
jacked. Works for BJJ Fanatics, Professor John Daner, Danaher. I like to call him Daner. It's
Danaher. Famous guy, by the way yeah huge guy placido or john yes the professor the
professor both actually actually both by proxy but john john is like a legend and when you said
that he was i mean i've heard of him i'm not even like in the fight world so to speak but i'm just
like tangential to it and i'm like oh everyone's heard of that guy yeah people love him and uh
so uh i'm sure we'll talk about when the guys get on. My wife and I were in Boston visiting some family.
What are you going to do?
Not train because you're traveling?
No.
So we went into Lyft.
And I will say, before we leave the YouTube stuff,
let me talk about the lifting.
But Arthur owns Starting Strength Boston.
If you want to do the basic barbell lifts
and you're in the greater Boston
area, I will tell you as someone that's been to Boston quite a few times, there's a lot of family
from up there. Like saying Boston is a loose term. Newton's a lot different than Somerville,
than Acton, than Hanover, than Worcester. I mean, obviously Worcester's way out,
but there's a lot of suburbs. So they're in like Newton, Watertown area. Great gym in a basement.
So they're in like Newton, Watertown area.
Great gym in a basement.
Awesome.
I've been to maybe seven or eight starting strength gyms.
This one's my favorite.
I am partial to the fact that when I go,
I can eat lunch with my uncle afterwards, but it's big.
I think they have nine racks in there.
They have a lot of room for changing and know, like changing and putting your stuff in.
I mean, even like those gyms are, you know, kind of modeled off the footprint of the strength code.
Like when we have 15 people in our gym and everyone brought a bag and they're there to
look for the day.
Like there's, you remember filming in there?
Yeah.
It's like, how can I film this shot?
There's like, you know, six gym bags over there.
Between a rack upside down trying to get the shot.
Yeah, it's tight.
But that's California real estate for you.
Hey.
But they got a lot of space
in there, which is a nice gym. Anyway, I still have to say, every time I come to Boston, if I
don't go to the gym, Arthur's like, you didn't come by the gym. So I always try and go by the
gym, sometimes teach a camp seminar or whatever, or just lift. So I went to lift. I'm like, well,
I need to film a video. And I'm here with Placido. but i go in and they have a class going on okay and so
you know like i have no problem being a clown anywhere but as a gym owner or a business owner
like i don't want to cramp what like the business i don't want to come in and be like i'm taking over
your business to film my video because you've been on the other side. Right. So I'm trying to be,
you know,
respectful at the same time I walk in and someone goes,
wow,
Grant,
you're a real person.
And the guy's like 70.
Yeah.
And I'm like,
uh,
yeah.
And then a couple of people had watched some of,
you know,
our stuff before.
Famous.
And so we waited.
That's not why I say it.
What I mean is even though there's people there that like watch the channel.
Yeah.
I still don't want to like blow up the guy's business.
So I kind of wait till everyone's gone.
And then we lift and Placido held nothing back.
But so there's not like a real fancy intro to that video.
That's right.
It's real.
It's raw.
It's just like a real like I mean, it's not even like hyped up.
It's just like lifting talking.
Just we set the camera down for too long. Pick it back up. Keep talking. It's just like lifting, talking. Oops, we set the camera down for too
long. Pick it back up. Keep talking. That's fine. So if you're into that sort of thing,
that aired now that you're listening to this two days ago. And Placido did drop some good,
interesting BJJ lifting, how he manages that, some that like I don't perform like T bra rows
that he has reasons for, you know, why he does that versus a barbell row due to like how
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu affects stuff. So it was some interesting stuff. We had a good time.
Was it based on like fatigue of the lower back?
Yep, exactly. People hanging off your neck at all times. And so wants to still train the upper back,
but doesn't want to, you know, crush his lower back kind of deal and so um so if you like jujitsu and you like those sort of things
um go check out that video if you haven't already i did jujitsu for about two years
yeah that's all my only experience with it okay yeah it was it was fun is he a black belt
you know i should know i'm so removed from that scene and he asked me in the car ride and
this is when you know usually like if you come somewhere i'm like i don't need you jordy to like
film stuff yeah yeah yeah but then we're in the car ride and he's asking about the marine car
martial arts program yeah and we're going back and forth and this and he's like well why aren't you
like a black belt in that and only a green belt i'm like well a green belt's all that's required for combat arms yeah and i'm like
you got to think about like my job as an artillery officer is to make a proficient artillery battery
able to go in quickly and place howitzers shoot as long as is required and then pack it up and
get the heck out of there quickly yeah if i'm ground fighting we got a problem. Yeah. And so like, I need them.
I need the minimum requirements.
You know, like green belts, like the third belt, because why?
Because every Marines are riflemen.
That's the ethos.
Yeah.
You could be on a boat and they could say, hey, this battery is going to know now go
be provisional infantry.
Okay.
But you're not.
Everyone doesn't need to be a black belt.
You can't optimize for everything.
Right.
And so anyway, back to the content view of the world just revolves around content. Real everyone doesn't need to be a black belt. You can't optimize for everything. Right. And so anyway, back to the content view.
The world just revolves around content.
Real life doesn't matter.
No.
But back to that, I was like, oh, Placido and I just had like a really interesting conversation.
It's nice if it was.
And I was like, I would have been some good stuff, but oh, we'll get it next time.
I will say, I don't know if people know this, if they're not in the jujitsu world, not that I really am,
but I'm a little bit, I was a little bit in it. The black belt in a jujitsu or black belt in
jujitsu, I think means more than a black belt in other martial arts. So a black belt in a lot of
other martial arts, it's like, yeah, you train consistently for two to three years. Usually
you can get, get to that level. It's all good.
Jiu Jitsu is unique because it's got, was it four or five? It's white, blue, purple, brown,
black. I'm pretty sure. So five, getting your black belt is like a decade plus endeavor.
And it's not like a, Hey, check off these boxes and then you will be promoted. It's like a,
another black belt has to watch you over time. So that's the part that I actually think is interesting is that, so even if you are a black
belt, then it's like, what family made you a black belt? Gracie black belt. It's like, it's like
mafioso. Yeah. And there's incentive to not give you a black belt. It's like the starting strength
coach requirement. Like you want to make that continue to mean something really hard. Yeah.
So you don't want to just like give out black belts. He's got to be like, man, this guy,
we can't not give this guy a black belt. So based on what you're saying, if you're starting strength
coach, you're basically a black belt. You are a black belt in the school of Ripito. Yeah, exactly.
Black belt coach. Yeah. But Placido PR'd his bench 302 and a half. I actually PR'd mine too.
I hit 380, which I wasn't planning to do,
but I wanted him to bench 302 and a half.
I've been trying on him.
He's been running like a conjugate method.
I'm like, you need to hit more singles.
He wants to get his bench up.
He wants to do 315.
Of course.
He'd done 300.
Every man's dream.
Yeah, he'd done 300 like three weeks ago.
And I said, don't do 315.
Hit the baby PR.
Yeah.
And he said, no, I'm going to go for 315.
Nice.
And it was really close.
Nice.
And he missed it.
I appreciate the attitude.
I do too, but I felt bad.
I didn't feel bad because I told him, do 302.5.
It drains you though. And he said, no, Grant. Yes, but he still then hit a really grindy 302.5 after. do too but i felt bad i didn't feel bad because i told him do three or two and a half it drains
you no grant yes but he still then hit a really grindy three or two and a half after yeah which
i would have rather liked the reverse which probably would not have worked yeah because
if he missed like he went from like i think 275 to 315 missed it and then hit 302 and that's tough
if he did 302 and a half in the middle yeah whatever there's arguments how it could be made uh but but yeah it was uh it was a fun
session so go back and check that out and always remember the baby pr is still a pr um you know and
it's easy for that milestone to get in the way i don't think anywhere between three 80 or three 90, I would have even been
thinking about four Oh five, but I'm not like, Oh, I've done this for a while, but like, I just
kind of, I just kind of know like three 80 was a grind and I was happy to hit it. And I probably
shouldn't have hit it. Um, I mean, we'll see how it all plays out over the next few weeks,
but it's easy to be like, Oh, 300. That's basically three 15, right? It basically, but
what's that percentage? Three. Oh God. Uh, five. My percentage is smaller. Three 80 to four Oh
five. Right. It is. But, but also isn't it true? Like 10 pounds going from three 80 to three 90.
It's a lot different than three 10 pounds from two 90 to 300. Meaning which one's harder?
Meaning as you get stronger, it gets harder to add 10 pounds.
Yeah, it gets harder to get stronger, but there's still like,
this is where it just gets so fuzzy into how'd you sleep last night?
What's Bitcoin doing?
Because at the same time, the difference between 380 and 390
is a smaller smaller strength increase so that would be from 380 to 405 is a six
and a half percent okay jump what is it from 300 to 315 so 315 divided by three 302 and a half or
300 300 300 that was pr yeah five percent so you actually did a bigger that i didn't do it well i
mean that makes sense. It was 20.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway,
I guess we're just dealing numbers over here.
Yeah.
5% though.
I was,
I was about right,
but yeah,
that's it.
I just,
I just,
my point was like,
Hey,
just add another five pounds when you're at the end of your strength curve.
Already at five pounds is might as well be infinity.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It gets a lot.
Yeah. Um, um well congrats on
the pr though yeah thanks that was good what was your last pr uh few and far between i'm sure yeah
so i don't remember exactly when i hit 377 and a half which i'm so sure coach greg would be
really upset about because great you should be remembering what underwear you were wearing, but I have was a genetic freak. It doesn't matter to you. Yeah, exactly. No, but
like at the end of a program, I can always be like between three 55 and three 70. Okay. If you know
what I mean, like there's a window. And so like, I've done a lot of singles in there okay and so there was one time i was like
oh i'm feeling good and i hit 377 and a half i know like three months ago i did 375 yeah yeah
and it was a grind and i was like i'm not gonna go for anything whatever so i don't actually
remember exactly when 377 and a half was a year ago two years since i moved to greenville okay
within the last two years yeah within the last two years Greenville. Okay. Within the last two years. Yeah. Within the last two years. Okay. Yeah. But that's in the last 18 months. That, that's, see, that's a,
yeah, it's a long time. And I was pumped about two and a half pounds, dude. Yeah. You gotta take it.
You gotta, that's what you gotta understand about PRs. They, when they're there, enjoy them. Yeah.
That was like the press PR for me. I did, I did the baby PR. I did one 80. Yeah. And I was like,
dude, I got gas in the tank. There's some gas left. I'm
not on it yet. Can't afford not to go. So you don't. So at that point, since I had already
hit a PR, I should have maybe done like one 82 and a half, but I'd already hit it. So I was like,
happy. I got a PR. So I was like, dude, one 85, you get the 25s on there. Yolo. Yeah. Hit it.
But that was a gamble. So you hit one 82 and a half and you missed one 85. No, you got one 85.
No, I got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so that was body weight press and then actually slightly over now but uh or
maybe it's slightly over but i remember you scheduled me for like 175 or 177 and a half
i hit that i was like that was easy i'm gonna go for a little baby pr 180 i hit that and i was like
dude i got gas in the tank oh you skipped 182 and a half yeah i was like screw 82 and a half dude
yeah especially if you did 180. Yeah. No.
Once you hit the baby PR, that's always my philosophy on PR.
Yeah.
Is if you're at a top single, maybe it's not even a test day, but you're close to your
PR, like don't get greedy.
Add two pounds.
Just take it.
Take it.
And then if it flies.
That's what I'm saying.
Go up.
Yeah.
The next one is YOLO.
Yeah.
You have to.
You have to.
That's what I'm saying.
Go up.
Yeah.
The next one is YOLO.
Yeah.
You have to.
You have to.
Or if I was coaching you to meet,
I would say baby PR,
within reason PR,
and then YOLO.
Especially if I got to lift like a deadlift.
Yeah.
Or squat.
Just get real hyped up and see if just the spirit can take you.
Yeah, just the spirit.
Going up to the spirit in the sky.
Anyway, should we get these guys on here?
Yes, sir.
All right.
All right. spirit in the sky anyway should we get these guys on here yes sir all right all right episode zero i can't wait to use this thing episode zero25 of the...
Okay.
Okay.
It's been so long, we forgot.
Let's just retry it.
So it goes Jeff, Trey, Jordy, and then Danons.
So episode 025 of the...
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Podcast powered by the strength.
Co I'm your host,
Grant Brogy here in studio with PJ joining us from sweet home,
Alabama,
Utah.
Oh,
we have,
uh,
we have major Jeff bougie coming back from a tour in Colorado.
Uh, and we got, uh, Tress, Robert Gottlatch, the third, We have Major Jeff Bougie coming back from a tour in Colorado. We do.
And we got Tress Robert Gottlidge III coming back from the tanning booth.
You got some sun.
It stops right here.
Oh, I thought that's your shirt. Oh, I didn't know you were wearing a shirt.
That's a nice V.
I thought that was just the sun.
Also, I have a sick sun.
You thought I was just doing this shirtless?
Yeah, man.
I thought you were just going for it.
Liver king style.
You go and pop off that shirt.
Go and pop that shirt.
Popping tops.
See the gains.
Hey, did you have that finger special that you made just for this episode?
That's amazing.
Yeah, I told the Celtics to make it into an okay hand symbol.
Okay.
Okay.
I didn't say that during the game.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
For your name Celtics.
Real quick,
before we leave Jeff and Trey shirtless,
there's like some comments that happen about your shirt,
Jeff on our Instagram page.
Sure.
I never get them.
And they're like,
his camera's always zoomed in.
I never know if he's wearing a shirt.
And I guess one time we did it zoomed out.
Yes.
Okay.
You got the Arnold Classic T-shirt on.
But shirtless Jeff,
that's what we always called him in the core.
So they called it.
Go ahead and pop that shirt off.
Yeah, pop that top.
Go ahead and pop that shirt off. Yeah, pop that top. Go ahead, pop that shirt off.
So it's June.
What happened?
It's June 18th.
I don't think we've recorded the week of in two, maybe three weeks.
Not with the full crew, three weeks.
Yeah.
It's been a minute.
It's been a minute.
It's been a minute.
But we're back on the battle rhythm.
Yeah, the battle rhythm has been restored. We're It's been a minute. It's been a minute. It's been a minute, but we're back on the battle. Yeah.
Battle rhythm has been restored.
We're back to a weekly cub,
uh,
2100 on Tuesdays.
Um,
I'd like,
I want to hear about Jeff's,
uh,
combat tour,
but I don't want to take his slideshow away.
Cause I've been running the slide deck.
So,
uh,
Jeff,
it's been rough. I'm also not talking about basketball. show away because i've been running the slide deck so uh jeff the browsing your court is being
rough i'm also not talking about basketball i listened to that episode it was great it was great
thanks yeah i had one takeaway from it but i'll get to that we'll get to that later foreshadowing
if we want to get yeah i guess we can jump into where i was. Caused my absence. I was out at annual training for reserves.
And so we went to, started in Fort Worth
and then we flew up to Colorado Springs,
did some training on Fort Carson.
Yeah, it's right on the border.
Western Northeast.
Western Northeast, Helmand Province.
Yeah, if you know your US geography,
Colorado butts up right against the Eastern border of afghanistan always forget that yeah pretty crazy
the world's a small place all right so we were there i guess probably like 10 ish days
the total in colorado of course our gear didn't show up on time. Contractors decided not to show up when they were contracted to show up.
And then all of a sudden they were like, we want more money than the contract that we signed for.
They held an hostage?
Like, what are these contracts for if you're not going to, what?
So that was a pain.
But eventually a lot of stuff got out there.
We went out to the field.
Super windy.
A lot of rain uh
not too hot but it was just overall interesting weather but the army was super happy with us um
that's what really matters yeah the army was just blown away they were like you guys
like they were blown away with like the radios that the marine corps had they're like your
technology is so advanced and i was like wait, wait, you're talking about the Marine Corps?
It's literally from Vietnam.
Okay. Yeah, but it was a good time.
And then we came back to Fort Worth for like two days and I did my change of
command. So that was my last stint there with headquarters battery,
14th Marine Regiment.
Oh man. Sad day.
A little bittersweet. Yeah. It was weird. I would would have saluted too i don't know if i'm allowed to yeah you're not but the last the
last time i'm going to be be like serving directly with this group of folks and it was a little
little sad anytime you move a unit it's it's weird it's it's weird and you know you you spend three
years in a unit or in the reserves it's less But you spend a time with a unit and you just talk about how bad it sucks the whole time.
Can't wait to leave these devil dogs.
And you leave and you're like, man, I actually like that broken water fountain.
I like the fact that the chow hall smells like a dish rag.
Don't take it.
These are my people.
I remember when we were in California, we hung out. fact that the chow hall smells like a dishrag like don't take these are my people i remember
somewhere in california we hung out it was like all the marines that we lived with and it was like
i think grant's cousin and like olivia gordon oh yeah and then like and then like when we left
we're like it was basically all right see ya and look we may never see each other again yeah and
then like i think it was like your cousin i
can't remember who said they're like but what are we are we gonna keep in touch or like well
maybe i don't know why not look at us now though yeah yeah like actually gordon uh potential
sponsor uh yeah big listener big listener of the podcast yeah gordonLeod. If I said Mutual of Omaha, that's probably a job he had 10 years ago.
But he does reply to the OK Podcast stories.
And I don't know that he listens to every episode, but he listens.
But yeah, that's the weird thing about the Marine Corps.
And what's weird is it's almost worse in the reserves because I don't know.
Like when you're active duty and you move around, you're like,
I got probably bump into this guy this many years down the road.
And the reserves are like, yep, probably never see you again.
Cool.
That was a good time.
But congrats on a successful command tour.
Yeah, man.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Good job. Slow clap. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah, man. Absolutely. Yeah. Good job.
Slow clap.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Yeah.
BW would be proud.
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Still our sponsor, yeah.
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Yeah, keeping the lights on.
Yeah.
Do you get artillery ground back there?
Move that head.
Move that dome.
Yeah.
Oh, is that your gift? Yeah. yeah do you get artillery ground back there move that head move that dome yeah that was yeah
yeah well i got a couple of those from uh some of the guys in the com the communication shop give me the irony yeah yeah yeah a couple of like they're like 3d printed
artillery shells that's actually really cool so actually like screw up i can grab it real quick
i thought it was legos from here it might be yeah
oh jeff two hands be careful i thought that was a water bottle h-e-p-d verified
oh it's empty
they put little like bottles of whiskey in there and then they like bought me like another like
bottle of like 18
year like crown royal and i was like this is i'm literally gonna have this for the rest of my life
i'm never gonna i'm never could you get that could you get that on a plane i checked it and i just
let it ride i have a funny story about that but what i was gonna say to make this uh podcast
political is uh biggie i thought you were gonna say it usually comes with he but we gave it all to ukraine so mine's empty
zielinski's like nice yeah wait jordy what was your what was your dumb question
oh can i ask a dumb question yeah so as a uh not a jtac um but good job but good job on announcing that yeah so i know that there's there's like firearm
rounds like out of a handgun right and then there's artillery where does the line where
do you draw the line when does it become not like a bullet and it's like artillery 60 mike mike
i don't think it does that's a great question um like is it small artillery or is it a big
ass handgun i got her right it's all it's all right you know it's all it's not all right when
you're like shooting something that's like beyond your line of sight i think at that point like
you're oh yeah it's like an indirect fire like i can't see what i'm shooting at necessarily
directly i guess sometimes with mortars you can see what you're shooting at but i mean that's kind
of like yeah you could see with the big cannon but go ahead trey you have well i'm pretty sure like
but to like that point like i would have checked the manual but i'm pretty sure you could shoot the
uh like the 50 cal could technically be uh. Yeah..50 BMG or whatever.
Yeah,.50 cal and like a Mark 19,
you can employ in indirect modes.
I would say...
But that's not artillery, right?
In our line of work, we would probably...
I mean, as artillerymen,
we would say like mortars are not artillery.
I feel like I would maybe say that.
But like, it's the same kind of
deal you're over here the enemy's down there you can't see them someone else is telling you where
the target is you're shooting uh like i don't know i feel like 60 millimeter you start like
for general talk for like gun nerds hey we're switching into artillery land um yeah but like as far as what the u.s forces use that are you the smallest
used by an artillery unit would be the 105 right yeah that's what i'm yeah that's that's what i'm
tracking yeah mortars run with the with the with the i'm looking up mortars and 16 million pjs pj
essentially just asking about echelon of fires you know if you can't carry it on your back get on the target i don't know what that means but i'm hyped up about it
let the big dogs eat i love talking guns
that's like a that's a completely different skill because now it's like communication between
multiple people like there's a person yeah i'm gonna sound i'm gonna say all the wrong
words but there's a person like figuring out where you're gonna shoot and there's a person
doing the shooting and maybe there's more i don't know but okay no that's correct yeah there's there's
a guy that gives you accurate target location and you got to make sure you know where your stuff is. And then you have to figure out how much is my round way.
What's the weather effects going to have,
have on it.
And then like,
am I computating all that stuff correctly?
And then shoot,
but don't,
don't snipers do that too.
Yep.
But snipers can see their targets.
So they're not,
they're not.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, that's actually
I think that's probably
like the
good enough
base definition
because they're accounting
for wind rotation
of the earth
because it's long shots
but they are looking
at their target
whereas we are just
given a target
a coordinate.
Yeah.
And yeah,
and shooting on it
and then accounting
for all those things.
Is there beef between snipers and artillerymen? no okay i didn't know if it was like yeah
i mean yeah yeah i don't know sometimes you get people get funny about that stuff
they can like sometimes like don't they call it in yeah like that's like trained like joint fires observers stuff okay okay if there's beef between anyone
it's fake beef because if you've ever like seen a plane drop a bomb you're like oh yeah beyond
that's air that's air superiority but if there was like fake beef it would probably be between
like aviation and artillery why because we would be like well if it's windy out or it's
raining they can't fly and we can still shoot that's why we're the king of all weather yeah
which is true yeah it's not wrong it's not fake no okay that's a good distinction if you can see
the target or not yeah all right yeah that's a good question, though. What is it? Unless you do Killer Junior.
Direct Fire Killer Junior.
That's where you take out
full-size howitzer and you
literally set it up.
Oh, it's like a rifle.
Just a big rifle.
People love it. Everyone loves to come.
When it's family day, you do a direct fire
shoot because everyone's like, oh, man, this is so cool man because otherwise like you shoot the round super cool but then it's like you just wait
wait wait boom boom yeah so you're either like up on some hill somewhere and all of a sudden you see
boom boom yeah or you're on the other end where you saw it go out but you're like fire's cool
though right no indirect fire's the king of battle actually if you notice what's the uh you're measuring distance if you hear around and then you
hear the sound after it like how far is it gosh uh it's like is it every second seconds a click
or something like that and that's the general rule though i think it's like every second it's
like 300 meters yeah i was gonna say
i actually was gonna say every three seconds was a click okay yeah so that's about the same yeah
it's a click a kilometer one kilometer okay yeah so if you double click on your mouse pad
speed of sound is 343 meters a second at hey look at these red legs
click a second so so so big he's like one click 300 something meters and i'm like homeschool math
three seconds, one click.
Easy math, keep it easy and you're out the field. The old Marine podcast as they call it.
You miss like, I bet it's cool to hear that sound
of the artillery going off.
Cause I remember I did a, there was like a,
I was in Miami and there was a Miami air show, right?
And I know you guys have beef, but they're a huge beef,
but I was like no
no but we me and some friends went down to the beach and we were like oh cool like i was like
oh cool i get to see some cool planes like neat and then like this it's it starts and you just
see like one like you know fighter jet fly over that oh that's pretty cool you see then you see
like three five fly over then you get like five fly over that oh that's pretty cool you see then you see like three five
fly over then you get like five fly over and then like the stealth bombers came through and
everything too and by the end of it i just like felt american and like patriotic and like it's
you're just like like it's different i've seen all these things in on google images or whatever
but like there's a difference when you when you feel that plane going over you oh yeah
whatever but like there's a difference when you when you feel that plane going over you oh yeah
there's a reason they don't ask for artillery flyovers for football games
people are like what about this inside just drag a seven ton around the football field
people are like you know what what what backs the value of the american dollar and i'm like i think it's that right isn't that what the sooners do they just drag they just
isn't that what the Sooners do they just drag they just have you seen video where it falls over that's my favorite I've never heard artillery in person uh yeah well quick story on that do
you remember uh Jeff uh now Lieutenant Colonel Brian pegram uh oh um good guy battalion commander and 10th Marines.
Forget which battalion,
but he was like a very dry humor,
like would tell really funny jokes,
but like being expressionless.
And he was talking about being an FDO,
which an FDO is like you are inside a tent usually.
And,
or like in the back of a truck and like all the information comes in from the people
looking at the target and you like with your team like five marines you process it all you as the
fdo decide what you're going to shoot and then you transmit the fire commands to the gun line
which are like 200 meters for you is this like the jtech no completely different yeah i mean same
thing uh no no but like you're like you're using it literally a computer system
like a thing comes in you plot it you're also taught how to do it manually but you plot it
you account for all these different things and then you also are doing like what you call tactical
fire direction like oh it's three tanks i should shoot this many rounds yeah and you send it down
to the guns and then you hear the gun line like charge three you know and they're loading the guns and so like once you send the mission you can like step out of the tent yeah and then
like watch the gun shoot oh yeah and so like the amount of um we'll just call it gunpowder for
normal speak but it's like a mic one charge it's like a little green lima charge like you put one
in let's just make it real simple. It's going to go
1000 or it's going to go one kilometer. You put two in, it's going to go two kilometers, three
kilometers, obviously like to hide all that stuff matters. But the more you put in the bigger,
the boom makes sense. And so like a big one is called like five hotel, which means like you've
put a bunch in. Okay. and i just remember pegram being like
yep nothing i like better than being an fdo transmitting fire commands hearing the gun line go
pouring a cup of coffee walking out and just watching all the humvees windshields crack
and i just and i just remember like being an FDO and I was shooting
three Lima. It wasn't anything that cool.
But I remember walking out and being like,
this is pretty cool. This is pretty great.
Anyway.
The artillery episode.
I do love artillery.
I learned a lot.
It's good.
Just in case, I guess.
I don't know much about our territory but what i
know is when i call it it lands ah the godfather i was in a meeting with him he said that was great
it's amazing yeah all right next slide well next slide yeah we're done enough about that
trey let's hear about this fishing trip tell us oh my are you talking about my annual training yeah
don't say the name of the of the place
yeah undisclosed you get in post uh dude it was good so going up there so like i think i explained it last time it's it's like a full day of travel uh Wake up early, fly to Minneapolis, go to International Falls after that,
take a cab up into Canada, and you take about another hour boat ride.
So it's like by the time we get there, it's like super late at night.
But, dude, fishing was phenomenal this year.
Weather was really good.
I think we got rained on one day, super windy a couple days,
but for the most part uh super hot we were predominantly doing small mouth which is uh the best that's the jaw in front
behind of the eye in front right yeah yeah i got taught that by somebody that was uh one of my
marines captain carrier oh i just look at their mouth we were talking about
trout fish and he was like he's like if you ever feel stupid when someone's talking large mouth or
small mouth say if it's a large mouth to like the corner of the jaws behind the eye
actually and then i didn't know that now i've looked at a bunch of pictures i'm like well
that's obvious except if someone catches a small largemouth bass. It's like artillery.
If it's like a
smiling smallmouth bass, it's really hard
to tell. Don't worry.
Be happy.
That song came out. I don't know if a lot of people know this.
That song came out when Grant was born.
1988.
Isn't that also when you were born?
Correct.
Dude, great fishing, fishing man we did a little
bit of walleye fishing you catch enough to have lunch they would cook it up then you go small
mouth fishing kind of in the afternoon in the evening um and then catch hooked a muskie
i think we talked about that about a three three-foot, kind of looks like a dinosaur.
Hooked one of those because musky season just opened.
I wasn't even fishing for it.
It just happened by accident.
Whoa.
Dang.
You're a good fisherman.
Yeah.
Hit on this line.
I've never caught a fish by accident.
Sorry.
No, it's a weird way to fish. So you're in the boat for a smallmouth because they're up on like
on these giant boulders like on the shore and you literally like you drive the trolling motor
and you go right over the boulder and just kind of hang out on it and you just like
we'll drop a line down there and like flip boulders pitch to them and then just pull out
a smallmouth man it's a wild way to fish. A ton of fun. I had a
blast. We probably averaged
between 50 and 70
fish every day.
How many fishermen?
Two to a boat.
I assume you didn't mean 50 each or did you?
To a boat.
Two of us in a boat.
50 to 70
a day.
Who was in your boat? A lot of action. Who us in a boat and so like 50 to 70 70 a day that's good wow action a lot of action who was in your boat uh my brother-in-law oh so you were catching about 60 he was catching about
10 yeah i'm much better fishing and it's what so like there's no boating course that you take up
there so it's just like hey hop in a boat and like figure out how to drive a boat and i'm like
love that skill dude i'm not good at it i love that end of the week made me get real good so it's just like yeah like this 60 the 60
horsepower motor on the back and it's like like crazy waves like trying to get through it wild
way to fish but good timing we had a blast it reminds me of like go ahead go ahead good
It reminds me of like,
go ahead.
Go ahead.
It reminds me of,
uh,
when I rented a car in England and they just like,
let it just like,
you have it.
It's like, uh,
you know,
on the other side of the car,
on the other side of the road,
right?
And they're like,
yeah,
that's fine.
There's a video I need to watch.
No,
just figure it out.
Yeah.
Dan,
do you,
I don't know how this works.
Do you eat any of the fish?
Are you pushing those back or putting those back or what? The bass but you don't eat the bass you you just throw them
back in after you catch them conservationists yeah well that's a good question is it jeff
yeah the walleye you eat but you once you hit your limits to a day so oh i have a
conservationist question ah my kind of party so would it be more or less
conservationalist to eat what you kill or eat what you catch i guess it depends so each year
like the slot changes and the number can change based on like the like there are scientists that
will go out there if it's over populated under, underpopulated. Like a Dr. Fauci.
Dr. Fauci will go out there.
He's actually in charge of the city.
Everyone wear a mask.
Two weeks to slow down.
A lot of people wear masks.
Maybe he craved, Joe?
Dr. Fauci gets spicy.
Oh!
Max of fish.
Oh yeah, we're the big vaccinated.
Yeah, most of them were. They didn't get the booster though. Okay.
Level one fish.
I got level one fish.
So the, the, the number changes depending on like the population of that season.
Yeah.
Each year.
So I remember like last year, like the, the length of walleye you catch was like 20 inches
and under, and then this year it dropped down to 17.
Okay.
So it's like deer hunting.
Similar, yeah.
Where you get this many tags or whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
Unless you're in South Carolina where they're like,
can you kill 100 of these, please?
That's what I'm saying. What is the more
conservationalist thing to do?
What does that mean, right?
It just depends, man.
I can see not killing them
it would be good and sometimes killing them
and eating them would be good I don't know
I think
population control really is what's happening
in Texas like all these lakes are
all the lakes in Texas are man-made there's no natural
lakes and so
do you not know that
I knew that I feel like I told great
that's why Texas is great on paper
until you find out all the water's fake.
Fake water.
It's all they made.
They pumped it in from Lejeune.
Yeah.
There's a class action against all the lakes here in Texas.
Oh, no.
So I would feel bad
when I go deer hunting Because I would feel bad when I go deer hunting.
I would feel bad killing a deer
and then not eating it.
I think you're confused that you can catch
a fish and not kill it.
You can not kill it, though, so that's why it's different.
I usually shoot to wound deers only.
Shoot them in the knee.
Shoot them in the knee.
No, I agree.
If you kill it, you got gotta eat it yeah that was like my
dad's rule growing up and i think that's like true with animal like it was never you know
not anything but that but like fishing is it's different you don't it's way different i mean
sometimes i feel like i see how good someone's trout photo was. I'm like, man, you screwed that fish up.
Because the lighting on that, where you were standing,
you're six feet off the bank, the way you're holding it.
Like, that poor fish.
It's got makeup on.
That dude was out in the water for a long time.
Not going to make it.
But yeah.
Anyway.
Okay.
What was your trophy fish from the trip?
Maybe not the trophy of your life, but of the trip, you caught...
It sounds like you maybe caught 150 fish.
Yeah, I would say.
There had to be one that you were like...
I got a 19, which wasn't...
We were trying to get a 20-inch smallmouth,
because they don't measure in pounds.
They measure in inches, which kind of throws me off.
Like Texas A&M.
It was a 20. we were going for 20 i
got a night i got two 19 inch small mouse and they were like really good fish and then i got 24 24
inch walleye which is really good and then i'm trying to think i caught a northern pike i caught
a couple at least one northern pike every day but none of them were
that big but so um i would say that this 19 inch small mouse were probably okay that's what we're
that's what we're predominantly fishing for two things i want to go back to i want to go back to
the pike but for the smallmouth a 19 inch small mouth because the head and upper cavity is pretty
large that thing's like six inches tall right because like
a trout's 20 inches but it's probably like four inches tall unless it's a stock dog dog like belly
belly to the back like yeah i just mean like that's a pretty tall fish that's probably accurate
yeah yeah okay so that's so like if you yeah did you send us that photo it's a beefy fish i can't remember if i did or not i
think i did i just mean 19 inches like in trout 19 inch huge fish but like it's it's slender so yeah
yeah it's like i feel like with the bass they're pretty tall that and it kind of like so we caught
one 19 inch we weighed it and it was like three 3.7 pounds right and then i caught another 19 inch and it was like four two so okay
yeah okay it's yeah it's like the difference between benching 370 and 405 it matters yeah
one was on the the program and one was obviously not yeah yeah it's a yellow fish before we leave
the fishing story you mentioned uh northern pike yeah
and uh so tanner massonomics talked about him a little bit in the pre-show he really loves our bit
on and i tell him it's not a bit it's just facts in south carolina and texas we just call these hats
yeah and the rest of the country calls them cowboy hats and so he loves to say in south dakota this
is just a hat he likes to tell it to his wife a lot and make jokes and uh so i get a text from him between last episode and
this one and it just says hey just so you know when you come to south dakota we just call that
a pike and i like blanked for a minute and then it was like kind of like i got it like two days later i was like oh
oh he's talking about northern pikes and i was like got it so it's just a pike tray yeah get with it yeah whatever and states that start with south it's just a pike yeah dude that was uh
that's that's an angry fish man yeah i bet how big was that one ah dude it was mainly that was like
How big was that one?
It was mainly... That was like
a foot and a half.
They get big.
They get
36 inches.
Dang.
They get real big.
I caught a bigger one last year.
They feel like
do you owe this fish money?
That's how angry...
They come out and
just like smack it they're fun to catch too but love a fun fish it was a good good fishing good
fishing trip for sure or you were you catching them on mostly was there like a go-to like
lure or anything so we'd flip back and so we have just like a tube that we use or like a net rig
which is kind of like weights at the end with the hook that comes out.
And then like, you just kind of put the, like a worm, like a small,
small tube looking worm.
No, no artificial that are easy.
Like a chatter bait was really good, which is just like a blade,
a blade bait that you kind of just bring through the water.
Did you use any
chopped up hot dog? Do you ever use those?
Yeah.
Use minnows for
walleye, but chop up.
The hot dog would work pretty good.
You catch Joey Chestnut?
Gets me
every time.
Especially if it's
covered in water.
Dunk it in there.
All right.
Delicious, delicious.
Next slide.
All right.
Well, I think in our little Slack thing,
the next recap, I think, is over to you, Big Grant,
talking about your Boston trip.
Boston.
That was very eventful.
It was.
Yeah, I went to Boston.
That's what D wanted. So, like, Julyuly i mean i i didn't want it at all but uh but it was a joint effort lots of fights uh but july we have
a lot of like kind of work travel and um and so we were like hey let's do like one more trip
just you and i before the baby's done here. And she was like, let's go.
Yeah.
Done.
Same thing.
So you've done cooking it up.
And,
uh,
and so we're going to go to Boston.
So she wanted to go to Red Sox game.
That's actually what you want to do.
You call it a baby,
a baby moon.
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
Baby moon.
Yeah.
I'm big on those things right after January bills.
And,
uh,
so anyway,
we were looking at what made sense.
And I will tell you,
I was looking at,
at the time the Bruins were in the playoffs and the Celtics were,
and I was like,
well,
we can pick a Red Sox game.
And then if like,
there's a playoff game still happening,
we'll be around.
And so,
uh,
we went to Yankees Red Sox on Saturday.
Ooh,
nice.
Yeah.
Great game.
Yank or Yankees beat the Red Sox game one on friday eight to one so i
went in i was like man this is gonna be bad uh red sox 184 which was nice uh good game we um
had a little scoreboard uh presentation that we're expecting a baby which like we think will
be cool for the future so like that popped up on there really fun fenway that's awesome yeah fenway franks are
so good like they're just like so good and the whole experience is amazing yeah and where'd you
sit we sat first base uh up maybe i don't know 50 rows or something you know so it's it was like
117 well the funny thing about fenway no not the owner's box7. Well, the funny thing about Fenway...
No, not the owner's box.
I wish.
One, the funny thing
about Fenway is that
it's like,
this is a baseball game.
Why are the ticket prices
so much?
The Red Sox are 34 and 34.
And these prices
feel like playoff prices.
But we had decent seats.
I didn't go all out, but we had good seats.
And it was funny because we have been to –
we've probably been to four or five games there together.
And we both, like, had a good chuckle that, like,
we know the hot dog guys now.
They don't know us, like, by any means.
But we're like, oh, that's number 38.
He's like, hey, hey, how many drinks you want?
And, like, we're like, oh, it's, like. He's like, hey, hey, how many friends you want? And we're like, oh, it's kind of fun.
So that game was good.
And then Sunday, we just hung out, walked the entire city.
We were staying in the back bay.
So we walked all up Commonwealth, went to Boston Common.
We did a lot of sitting, a lot of slow walking, six-month pregnant wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Went up to the harbor there, there hung out came back to like
where green dragon tavern is and they call it house hand what was that um we did all that and
then we went to the north end at night had some uh good italian went to mike's pastries and just
kind of like chilled sunday but it was fun because then when you come back to the hotel like everyone's
watching red sox yankees again
red sox went again which was great and then monday we had like all day family day uh i met my cousin and a couple of his uh kids at the gym we worked out and then um i was meeting with like two uncles
two aunts various other cousins we all met up and they're like are you going to the game are you
going to the game and i won't play me out myself but i wanted to go to the game but ticket prices were
like astronomical and in my mind i'm like in my mind i'm like well it's like a once in a lifetime
opportunity like once you have a one-year-old you can't just like run off to boston and go to a
finals game you should go and i like, I can't justify this.
And so the old grant in me, like, hey, I'm going to go to Columbia. I have no tickets,
but if I can get a ticket under a hundred dollars, don't get me wrong. I paid way more
than a hundred dollars for the cell six, but if I can get it under, I'll go into the game.
Otherwise I'll just hang out around Williams price. So that was the plan. And so, man, we,
out around Williams price. So that was the plan. And so, man, we, we finished with all my family. We came back and all day long ticket price had been dropping a hundred bucks, another hundred
bucks, another hundred bucks because they were all over a grand. So it was at the point where
I was like thinking about it. I'm like, well, if I, if I, if I'm a guy that owns two of these tickets
and I don't care, and I know they're worth1,000, I'm kind of starting to freak out.
Because if I don't unload them, I lost out on $2,000.
And so maybe I'll take $1,600 for two.
Maybe I'll take $1,500.
And so they just kept dropping as we got closer to the point where I was like, Diana, get ready.
We're going to go down to td garden
and uh and they finally dropped down to like something that i had had in my head like if it
hits this i'm doing it and uh so they were both like a pretty good bit under a thousand and i was
like all right we're doing it and so we got the tickets like literally like 15 minutes before we
got on the team oh no and then at that moment then at that moment, I was like, ugh.
Game on. Let's just go.
So worth it. Yeah. Well, the moment
we got off the tee and you're at the entrance
to the garden, it was insane.
It was just a sea
of people. The music's
playing. Everyone's chanting
all this stuff. And
what I actually thought was like, I should have
just bought the tickets three days ago
when they were 3X what I paid for them
because this is fantastic.
Worth it.
Yeah, we went in and the great thing about the Garden
is we were high up, really high up.
But all the seats there are actually pretty good.
You can actually see really well.
The game was rocking.
I think the loudest,
probably the loudest early on when KP came out,
just because he had been hurt,
you know,
the last like three games.
And when Beringas came out,
like the place went nuts.
But then I think the loudest,
I won't say the loudest I've ever heard in a stadium because 20,000 people
compared to a hundred thousand people is a big difference,
but it is all contained
but i don't know if you guys watch the game but when pritchard hit that halftime
three from half court i thought my eardrums were gonna pop like it was just like absolute
insanity and the best thing about sitting up like that is a lot of the people there
it was like they literally spent their life savings to be there like the guy in
front of me was wearing a green jersey he's like my dad gave me this to me when i was seven years
old he's probably like 25 and he told me if you ever get a chance to watch the celtics win a title
you go he's like i grew up in somerville i live in florida now i flew up last night and he was
crying at the end of the game like it
was just like absolute insane and so then we leave the game so they win great game we stay for like
all the stuff when they gave al the trophy it was like the place exploded more than when they gave
it to tatum and uh brown and then we'd leave and the city was just banana. And I went into like six month pregnant wife.
I just have to get her back to the hotel mode.
Yeah.
So I didn't even like take,
I mean,
I took it in,
but it was like people hanging off of street posts,
like climbing the garden walls,
literally.
Like it was absolute saying,
like you get on the T and they're just still screaming,
F you Kyrie.
Like, you know, the whole way, all the way down to Prudential,
they're just screaming on the train.
So yeah, it was a lot of fun.
I got to say, I have no regrets.
It was a well worthwhile game to go to.
I was very tired, though,
because by the time we watched all the post game then you go
through the sea maze of people then you get on the t i love 45 minutes on that thing you get off i
think i went to bed at like 1 30 and uh have an old client that like was actually in back bay and
i was like hey we'll meet you for coffee in the morning we went met her and it was great but so i got up like i don't know nothing crazy like 7 30 7 45 and i was like i am exhausted
but it was worth it yeah and all the celtic stuff was like still walking around the city and then
in the airport the best part was flying back into philly because like all the airport shops switch
from like celtic stuff to Philly stuff.
And the whole airport's just full with Celtic stuff.
Yeah.
And yeah,
it was fun.
You at the game last night.
And I was like,
hell yeah,
brother.
It was great.
Good game.
We need to,
we need to read back the predictions.
Was that right?
So you were wrong.
Wasn't it for,
I was wrong.
It was in seven.
I was wrong.
Okay.
So it was, it was got lichen five, right? Yeah. Nailed't in four. I was wrong. It was in seven. I was wrong. Okay, so it was Gotlach in five, right?
Yeah.
Nailed it.
Grant and I had the same.
Gotlach in five.
The sports master.
I should start betting, dude.
I should start betting on stuff.
I mean, Portnoy did.
A lot of people say that.
Portnoy did a parlay on Schaefer and the Celtics,
and he won a million and a half.
So you can't almost afford not to bet.
That's true. You're losing money.
I know. What am I doing?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
Speaking of which, Jeff, can I take the next slide?
Absolutely.
So I want to have a little game for Jordy here. I like games for Jordy.
I love these because I never know that these are
happening and it's just spontaneous.
Has anyone ever
heard of Levain Bakery? It's cool. If it's nose around the board, has anyone ever heard of lavaine bakery
it's cool if it's nose around the board i had never heard of it either uh so my boston relatives
all raved about this place it's from new york which i thought was interesting but they're famous
for their cookies and so uh they were like you have to have this this morning when i met the old
client of mine we went to levain and got cookies
and i bought an extra one for jordy no way so uh cookie review time yeah i couldn't really get it
to you in time that's a coconut something or another oh so you gotta describe it we'll just
give you yeah this isn't even a cookie this is like something advanced here this is like one of those advanced cookies there's a lot going on in this cookie i can i don't know
if i can hold it up without making a mess but uh take a bite describe what you're how would you
describe it kind of looks like a muffin top okay it's like a very heavy muffin top so i would
describe it as a side felt it's biscuity yeah this is like a 1.25 strength co
plate honestly does it have a little give to it or is it pretty firm it's pretty firm it was made
this morning to be fair and flown in from boston so it's a little bit older yeah okay all right i
like what i see though golden most expensive uber eats ever dude well the cookie itself is $5.25. Plus the plane ticket to haul it over.
Yeah.
Cheaper than the Celtics ticket.
How much was this?
$5.25.
That was worth $5.25.
Wow, just one bite.
Are you going to rate it?
I'm going to give it an 8.9.
Wow, high rating.
Is that good?
Yeah, it's good.
That was good.
Thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Levain Bakery, New York, potential sponsor.
Good cookie.
I'm a thin cookie guy.
You know?
So it wasn't my speed.
It was one of those things where you bite it and you understand exactly why everyone loves it.
No, I get it. But for me, I was like, yeah, this is not my speed at all.
I've always said that about Brandon.
He's a thin cookie guy.
Thin cookie guy.
Speaking of Levain's potential sponsor,
we have an actual sponsor, right?
Yeah.
I don't know what that noise is.
There we go.
Okay. Yeah, but we do have an actual sponsor
who are glad they keep the lights on.
And every June 18th, on the eve of Juneteenth,
I think, wow, we're getting close to being halfway done through the year,
and it's time to start thinking about my taxes.
And I think about BW Tax, but why listen to me? The thing that I've always liked about BW
tax LLC.com is that they are a smaller company and, and smaller companies care more in general.
There's, there's not a hierarchy of people that are telling you, you know, make more money,
make more money from our clients. They want you to make
money. That's why you use them because when you use them, they're going to give you the tools to
get the most money back from the government that generally takes all of our stuff. But it's their
mission. It's their job to get as much money back from the government and put it into the
the pockets of hard-working americans
yeah yeah we we leave that on there just leave the dad go on all of them yeah yeah that's actually b-dubs catchphrase is you get your tax return back you just go dag gum actually it's like hey bw i forgot to tell you
uh i sold all my bitcoin dag gum yeah great jim denofis is underrated that's a good ad read
his is yeah jim's is great jim's off the dough too read. Yeah, Jim's is great. Off the dough, too.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's right.
The government's trying to take all your money, and that's why you should call
BW Tax. BW and I were
texting during the game.
He was actually a funny deal.
He was trying to out me with a
fellow Citadel grad on a text thread,
also from Hanover, Mass.
And he
said, you know, I'm trying to get Grant. He said, how often do you
do you and Grant talk? Not B.W., the other guy. And B.W. says every day. And usually it surrounds
tax advice as to why he shouldn't make a five thousand dollar purchase to go to a Celtics game,
which I just replied and said, sounds like a tax write-off to me.
And, you know.
All you had to do was take your camera with you and film a few things.
I did.
Okay.
Tax write-off.
Which makes things free.
I don't know if you know how tax write-offs work.
Free.
Totally negates the cost.
I don't think anybody knows what that is.
If you film enough, you actually get paid to do it.
That's great.
That's true.
Yeah, it is true.
Just write it off.
Yeah.
It's not to nerd out.
It's just a discount based on your tax rate.
So if your tax rate is 25%, it's 25%.
Okay.
That hand is now a tax write-off.
That hand is now property of OK Podcast,
purchased on the OK Podcast credit card.
Throw a sticker on that, baby.
Write it off, baby.
If you want to sign up for your own OK Podcast credit card,
head on over to theokpodcast.com.
Yeah.
Streetco should get into credit cards.
Have you thought about that?
There's a lot of money in that.
No interest for six months,
and then after that, we're going to get you.
Yeah. Yeah, that's right, baby. Yeah. All then after that, we're going to get you. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right, baby.
Yeah.
All right.
What slides we got left?
I mean, I think Angel Reese slapping Caitlin Clark in the face.
Well, I was going to stick with a little Boston themed action here.
Let's stay there.
I wanted to talk about the Tom Brady Patriots Hall of Fame injunction and its contrast to the roast of Tom Brady.
So you've been like out of media
for two weeks, right Biggie?
For the most part, yeah.
I was out for a week.
I know this whole thing, yeah.
You saw the Hall of Fame induction? Yeah.
Okay, so what are your thoughts before I give my
tainted Boston bias?
Oh, I'm not the one to ask about this. I'm just kind of
like, okay okay i was cool
okay yeah trey did you see it okay no i was out for a week i missed it okay annual training i
forgot no i just thought that the roast was like so edgy and even us on this podcast were like and
i really want to talk about what was said and i had no idea that he was going to the Hall of Fame this year. And then the Hall of Fame thing was like the classiest.
All the fans were there.
Wait, did you want an edgy Hall of Fame?
Yeah.
No.
What I'm saying is why even do this weird roast
when like a month from now you're going to do it properly?
Money, Netflix, baby, after the grab.
Yeah, no, I just thought the Hall of Fame thing, I didn't understand why it was during game four of the celtics um i thought that was weird
but i just thought it was like really well done like gillette stadium was completely packed um
yeah it was classy like everyone was like actually talking about him as like a quarterback and i'm not saying
the roast shouldn't have happened or should they just feel so different to me it just it was
completely different but it's like why did the because now i'm like oh are we like making up
for the roast oh like not that obviously brady was going to go into the hall yeah he wasn't going
to make it yeah yeah i just thought i just thought it was strange. And if you
didn't watch both, and I only watched
partials of each of them, but
the vibe was so different.
And I just thought that
was interesting. I think it's smart doing it
during game four. You know, everybody can be
in town, flying in. Game four was
in Dallas.
Good point. Yeah.
Which was all the Boston accounts were saying Boston is the best sports ever.
They packed out two stadiums without a game being played,
which was true because they had the TV garden watch party.
And then you have Gillette stadium packed.
How far is Gillette from like downtown Boston?
45 minutes.
It's like,
Oh dang. So it's out there. Yeah. It's in a different city 45 minutes. It's like. Oh, dang.
So it's out there.
Yeah.
It's in a different city.
Yeah.
It's in Foxborough.
Yeah.
Like if you take the train from downtown, which I've done, it's over an hour.
Jeez.
Yeah.
But like driving, it's probably like 35, 40 minutes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Anyway.
I just.
What's.
Do you push any seafood?
Man.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I did. I did.
What's your go-to seafood joint?
It's in Quincy Market.
Quincy Market.
I can picture it.
And now it's slipping.
It's something oyster bar.
And I like the main lobster roll there.
No, Connecticut.
Connecticut.
The hot one.
Yeah, the Connecticut.
The Connecticut lobster roll at that place. There are hot one yeah the connecticut the connecticut
lobster roll at that place there are places where i prefer a main style i'm not like a only that's
cold means cold mains break down break down the difference for yeah it's cold mains cold
mayonnaise based sometimes has lettuce sometimes doesn't uh connecticut style is like hot lops. It'd be like if you cracked it,
immediately put it
on warm bread and covered it in butter.
Like immediately. I like Connecticut way better.
I like both.
The way you just described it, the hot one sounds
better. Yeah, so done well,
the hot one can be way better.
But if you like mayonnaise,
the cold one can be good.
I will put it to you this way. Why do you like mayonnaise? the cold one can be good. I will put it to you this way.
Why do you like mayonnaise?
The cold one has more room for error
in my opinion.
Because it's like,
the way you flavored and
tried to do this.
Too much mayonnaise.
Is that possible?
No, not possible.
Not for Jeff.
So that's my like,
you land it.
Land the lobster, give me the mayonnaise.
I'll eat right out of the mayonnaise. Dude. All you know,
I'll eat right out of the jar.
Yeah.
Dukes.
If you like it,
cause we're from.
Yeah.
Dukes mayonnaise.
Oh,
okay.
Just like all,
all Southern people love mayonnaise.
Also true.
I think, I mean, the, the, the hot one's better to me, All Southern people love mayonnaise. That's also true. Also true.
I think, I mean, the hot one's better to me,
but I do think that lobster is sort of a psyop anyway.
Like crab to me is so much better than lobster.
And I don't know why lobster is the famous luxury one.
Are you a raw oyster guy?
Yeah, more recently.
But yeah, I can get down with some raw oyster.
I like raw oysters oysters but to me like
lobster like you need to have it all buttery and dressed up and all this stuff because i don't
think it's actually that good crab you just get cracked so so well go ahead trey i would say
little you're a gulf coast guy you got blue crab i would say little little known fact about
lobsters right so back in day there for it was like the poor it was like
a poor people delicacy right and i don't see that's like that's like what they ate because
there are so many of them right so they'd catch them cook them up right so then like whenever
they started shipping them out to the west coast they marketed it as like a delicacy and it just
like took off see it's a sigh i'm right wait you know you know the west coast
also has lobsters right well they shipped them off to where there's no lobster like
they don't have claws the the the uh the west coast lobsters
people that like people that like the tail generally like west coast lobsters because
the lobster is a little bit bigger, but it's all tail.
And then on the East Coast, they'd say the claws are better.
I personally, growing up in the low country, am a huge blue crab fan.
But I will tell you that I would prefer a blue crab boil to a lobster bake.
Is that similar to a crawfish foil?
Yes. Meaning there's no bread. No one's preparing anything for you. There's lobsters getting dumped
or there's crabs getting dumped. I would prefer the crab. I'm picking up the crab.
I will also tell you the crab though is a ton more work for a lot less protein. So it's like
there's way less meat going in there. But it comes to like preparing a sandwich or someone like a chef someone's doing it for me i generally think the lobster's better
with the occasion with the exception of like a really good crab cake um or a soft shell crab but
no i like i like both but yeah anyway what if the connecticut was made with crab oh they make that that's what i'm saying
wouldn't that be better yeah but it can't it can never be it's always gonna be crab's always gonna
be more like shredded almost like this is a bad and this is a bad analogy but trey will get it
it'd be like pulled pork versus brisket which which i don't like brisket but lobster is like big chunks of meat
it's a bunch of liar it's okay uh i saw great i saw a great eat a brisket in one city
he goes i don't like this and then he ate
uh i also like legal seafood
at the
Seaport District.
Oh, I think it's like versus illegal?
Is it like black market seafood?
No, no.
That's the place.
When you do your Boston spot,
it's tough, man, because
there's a lot of great seafood,
which is my go-to, and
I feel less like a giant POS if I eat a lot of great seafood which is my go-to and like i feel less like a giant pos
if i eat a bunch of seafood than if i have yeah it's not super heavy yeah yeah but there's also
a lot of great italian and pizza but yeah when you go but i like legal i like legal seafood i like
this spot in quincy market for lobster roll um yeah i'm no, but I've been quite a few times.
I would actually say, if you're doing the Northeast,
go to Boston, eat Italian
food and pizzas,
and then take a day and go to Maine and eat your lobster
rolls. Okay.
Kenny Bunkport,
George Bush, not to make it political. Good tip.
Good tip. This is a political episode, man.
Wow. Wow.
Next slide. Okay. to this is a political episode man wow wow uh next slide okay yeah well someone's way from george bush quick get out of here segue from
pushing chow to the opposite not pushing chow aka fasting great did you have something more you
wanted to oh to illuminate on that no i don't want to talk the whole episode
but in in in short i did a three-day fast last week and it's just yeah so i i ate on
monday and didn't eat when tuesday was a thursday night again friday and it's just funny what a
mental game it is it's it's like going for a run you know and that like the first day you're like
this is nothing and then even at night you're like that like the first day you're like this is nothing
and then even at night you're like i don't need to eat what like this is dumb don't even need
and then the next day the next day you wake up and you're like i might die in an hour and uh and
then like three hours later you're like food what is that and it's just like this thing but i always
think it's like it's not good for everyone. There are people that
shouldn't fast probably because it like messes with their mental psych. But I think it's just
a good reminder of like what you actually need for nutrients versus feeling like you need to eat
lunch. And I usually do that length of fast. I say usually the last three years, once a quarter,
but because I did carnivore first quarter and then D got pregnant and really do anything.
So it's just kind of my first one of the year and I think that long of a break the last one I did was
in December I was like I was like man this sucks uh are you still doing coffee I do coffee and
water I don't do like bone broths and I personally don't do electrolytes I've had one time where I did a four day I call them by like the amount of days
that you wake up and go to bed without eating I had one day where I did four
days with no eating okay and there was like one day in the middle where I felt
really bad and I like was salting my water but I don't know but yeah I do
coffee I'm not that hardcore I do do sparkling water, but zero cal. Gotcha. That's like a lifesaver.
What's the longest you've done?
Longest I've done is I woke up, I ate dinner on a Sunday,
and I ate again on Friday morning.
So Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, I didn't eat as long as that.
Okay.
Okay.
That sounds hard.
Dang.
Anything more than that, I personally think is crazy.
So a lot of people talk about stem cell regeneration.
So there's this whole idea of you're giving your liver a break.
You're giving all your organs a break, your stomach a break.
And then there's an idea that this 72-hour mark that your body starts healing itself in a way.
That's when the good stuff kicks in.
Yeah, when it usually kicks in, which which i'm actually agree it's probably real but when i hear someone doing like a 12-day
fast yeah i'm like the amount of like muscle your body's now like breaking down and using for food
is it worth it and for my purposes i'm like yeah this is not worth it it's weird how long you can
go without food though yeah you think you could go three days without coffee?
Yeah.
You think that would be harder?
Be a brutal headache.
Do I have to do both at the same time?
Fast and not drink coffee?
Ooh. No.
I would say either one or the other.
Yeah. Yeah, I think I
could not have coffee if I was not having food.
It would be, I think, the same amount of pain as in like,
oh, I really want this thing, but I can't have it right now.
Yeah.
I think if I did a fast, like literally water only,
that would be tough.
Because when I fast, I'm like drinking way too much.
Because you don't sleep well.
Well, you've done fast, right, Trent?
Yeah, I have before. And you don't sleep well well you've done fast right yeah i had before and you
don't sleep well right no not usually yeah that's like a thing that everyone says like 90 of people
are like yep don't sleep while you fast like you wake up constantly you can i can drink like
sometimes if i'm not doing it fast it takes like more coffee to like it but if you do it like on it fast like i
could drink half a cup of coffee and yes you know what i mean just be like wired yeah right so like
when i fast i am coffee in the morning like couple cups and then i'm like i don't even drink still
water i'm just like really lemon flavored la croix grapefruit look because it like gives you a sensation
at night when I'm trying to go to sleep I'm either tea or decaf coffee okay and so I think
that would make the fast for me personally very hard if I didn't have that gotcha I mean I could
do it but yeah you're pretty tough guy you, guy. You sluggish when you fast?
Like day two, you're sluggish.
Day one, you're not. You actually feel good.
Like you're hungry, but you feel good.
Day two, you feel sluggish.
Day three, you usually feel
like great. Really?
I've conquered food.
Yeah, you're like, what is food?
Yeah.
And then you see a lobster roll, and you're like, Jordy doesn't yeah and then you see a lobster roll and you're like jordy
doesn't even like that i would be tempted what's your app is poor people food what's your fault
like when you do whatever you're breaking your fast like on the third day like yeah uh because
i'm not going straight to heavy food you're just going to carry yeah so i usually i usually like
wake up and do bone broth. Okay.
And then I'll do like chicken breast and like white rice later in the day.
If I'm doing it right.
I've also done it wrong.
I've also done it wrong fast.
I'm like, I'm eating a whole pizza.
And let me tell you, that is not a smart thing to do.
Yeah.
Bad day.
Yeah.
Bad day.
That's the noise your stomach makes.
I'm just not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just my stomach. Just saying. I'm just not. Yeah. Yeah. Just my stomach.
Just saying, I'm not going crazy here.
The old fast.
That's good.
All right.
Interesting.
Good talk.
Good fast.
Fast and fast, yeah.
Okay. Okay. man uh all right next slide's gonna be something that got me super pumped for the i guess the fall
um it's not college football oh are we doing a slide next slide it's going on tour he's coming out with a new album
later this year and i am fired up about it already got tickets for when he's coming to salt lake did
you have to do the uh the go into the the raffle or whatever they like you like the pre-sale the
pre-sale yeah so i gave him my email and i'm gonna get probably all kinds of
marketing stuff from here to eternity um but worth it because i mean i didn't see i don't think he's
coming to dallas at least i he hadn't posted one yet but he was going to oklahoma city yeah and so
i was like he's playing austin city limits i can't remember where else he's going i might just go to
somewhere else in texas i'm just gonna ok City and live by myself. That'd be good.
Sergill Simpson.
Grant, are you a fan?
Yeah, I'm a fan. Not as much as Jeff,
but we have sent each other
songs back and forth.
I didn't know about the tour, though.
But yeah, no, I like Sergill. Yeah, for sure.
I'm pumped. I'm really pumped.
Do you like his newer stuff?
I can't speak to that intelligently. that was for jeff i apologize yeah not bad i do i i like like i mean his entire catalog i think is is really great um what would you classify him as
i think it's older stuff is he's definitely like a definitely country
it's definitely kind of crossed over
been like a little more
especially
meta modern sounds in country
music was like there's like a little bit of like kind of like
psychedelic
psychedelic country influence
yeah like it's not like
a like a what do you
want to call it not like red dirt or texas country
no but it's it's definitely like it's kind of has its own unique thing but like it still feel
very much feels like country if you had like before you tell your two standouts i was talking
to jack white the other day and i was with virgilurgill Simpson, and he was like, if you took George Strait,
Chris Stapleton,
and Father John Misty,
and made him go dig a hole
and put this music underground,
it'd be Sturgill Simpson.
That's Sturgill Simpson.
I like, that's a great addition of throwing in Father John Misty.
No, I think that works,y. I think that works though.
I think it does. I think there's actually
a lot of great
comparisons there, but on the country side
I really like that.
It's underground country.
He does some mean
covers, man. He did a
Nirvana
Nirvana song that was really
good. Is that the same thing as nirvana
no two different bands uh yeah uh in in bloom was the one from a sailor by nirvana yeah and then uh
the promise was like a oh god i can't remember the actual cindy whopper song
does cindy whopper no it's definitely like a dude singing it
in the 80s version i'm surprised but that was like our that was like pj's wedding song in here
i'm looking i'm looking up the promise that was your yeah that was your wedding that was
the song kaylee and i danced to when in rome no yeah maybe but yeah man i do really like uh the ballad of dude and juanita the like kind of
like concept album where it's all like a you know like a story held story like what about the dog
like dying oh just makes me cry every time yeah dog stories always are the worst dude it's the
worst oh i guess it depends on what dogs you have.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Unless,
unless Reveley's your dog in the fight.
Oh,
that's true.
That dog's mean,
man.
That dog bit,
that dog bit like two people when I was there and they tried to like cover it
up.
Yeah.
Don't say anything.
One was,
one was, uh, Barcy's left horn. And one was his right horn. That's it. cover it up. Don't say anything. One was
Varsity's left horn
and one was his right horn.
That's it.
That's solid off their bidding off.
Short.
Oh, man.
Are we going over a team today?
No, we're going to do two next week.
I didn't have time to make my notes this week.
Double up. Do you have the teams picked out? No. I usually go with what you tell me to do two next week. I didn't have time to make my notes this week. All right. Double up.
Do you have the teams picked out?
No,
I usually go with what you tell me to do.
Oh,
nice.
Nice.
Well,
maybe we should,
uh,
are we at the end of the slide deck?
I think so.
Well,
I went there.
I was going to have my one,
my one.
I don't know if it's hot take,
but from listening to last week's episode.
Oh yeah. Go on. A lot of great love. my one i don't know if it's hot take but from listening to last week's episode oh yeah go on
jordan a lot of great love the george straight chris stapleton concert uh recap yeah but for me
george straight not writing his songs is a big knock against him i think and then there was the
comparison of like oh well great doesn't make all the 45s but but it's like oh but rogue does
or like these other companies do because a lot of other country artists
you fly out to wisconsin every morning uh yeah fly back every night yeah i mean george straight
still great like uh so some great well he's also
a starting strength coach but he didn't invent starting strength not to rip on grant day but
it's not a rip to me what are you even doing with your life not a j tag but you know i just think
that analogy doesn't not starting strength one but like to give rogue credit like bill heninger made rogue
yeah but he's not does he make his own place in his garage no one well so hand crafting their
plates maybe it was a bad analogy maybe designing is what counts you know i i don't know yeah no
but i i'm actually trying to empathize with jeff here because i do think that like writing your
own songs matters i just don't know that we picked a good thing to put it up against.
Cause I would say like,
I made my own plates,
right?
What I would say is if there was plates from China that like rogue says all the
time that they go and grab and they put their,
and they put their brand on them.
Like that's different.
Yeah.
Whereas like,
I feel like mine have my fingerprints on them
like oh no that I changed that
you know and you should actually start
doing that yeah putting my
fingerprints in the back of players well actors
do this all the time like hardly any actors
write the script
yeah that's why I don't like it
that's why I don't like any actors
yeah I think again that's just like a tough
comparison I think it's
the same it's performing the written material no i think you make that be like but it's like
in an industry where like a lot of people do write their own songs and perform them
it's compared compared to the other ones yeah i don't know i think what jeff is saying which
i think i was trying to articulate poorly last, is that there's just something about a singer-songwriter who can do both.
I'm like, dude, that dude is super talented. I think George Strait's not talented.
I think that... Here's where I think the conversation is lost.
We're comparing to George Strait, who is the the king and he's so good at his singing in his
presentation that it probably doesn't matter who wrote it and if you took out a lower level country
music singer that was i mean it's hard to say equal to ch Chris Stapleton because Stapleton is so high. But if you took two people of equal popularity and said an equal time in the game and said,
this guy writes his music and this guy doesn't.
Who's the country guy who's on The Voice?
Blake Shelton.
Blake Shelton.
Does he write his music?
No.
Old Red, he's the damnedest doll.
I don't know.
I'm taking this out of the dark saying he doesn't.
Unlikely, I would say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you compare him.
See, we can't even have this conversation because we're so uneducated on the topic.
I think there's a lot of artists out there who are just manufactured by a record company.
The industry.
The government. The industry. You know what I mean? who are just like manufactured by like a record company, the industry, the government,
the,
you know what I mean?
I think it is George.
I think George Trey's not like,
I think he kind of made his own way and had that,
but there's a lot of people out there who to me,
it's kind of,
whenever I see a singer songwriter,
who's really good,
I'm like,
okay,
that guy's super talented versus someone who's like,
like Midland,
Midland. They seem very, they seem very manufactured.
Yeah.
They write their own stuff.
But they see.
Yeah.
But George Strait doesn't seem manufactured.
No, but I'm saying like, there's other people who do seem manufactured.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Especially in country.
Like there seems to be a lot.
Even if they write their own stuff, a lot of that is not one person
i mean you've got probably three songwriters and a producer chiming in so i don't it's rare to
actually get like a solo person writing a hundred percent of every song i also love how like three
out of four of us are having this argument and like can't play a lick of music yeah well i have written so many songs yeah that george straight performed that's right
uh by the way before i segue the song that i referenced in that podcast by george straight
by his tequila is cody go it's like come on drink some cody go made down in mexico and then he like
spells it out yeah it's great And that's his tequila line.
But you know what's not manufactured
and who only one person deals with
and takes care of all your problems,
no matter what they are
or how complex they are?
Our good friend BW.
Oh, great guy.
What a good guy.
Yeah.
Good BW.
You walk in, he's there,
and he's ready to answer any questions you may have.
And it's just interesting because you might say, oh, one guy to handle all my problems.
But when you have an expert, you don't need a cadre.
You know what a cadre does?
They charge you too much money.
One guy can solve a hoist of problems and charge you less money.
Good use of your tax LLC.com.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Outstanding.
Grant's lexicon is very verbose,
dude.
That's.
Ooh,
verbose.
That's a $20 sentence right there.
Yo.
Ba-doom-boom-ch.
Okay. I think last thing.
College World Series.
Oh, yeah.
Gig them, baby.
Are you guys still in?
I saw Florida State beat Chapel Hill today in the elimination game.
We beat Florida.
Because Florida's playing Kentucky, and that got postponed until tomorrow.
Okay.
But A&M beat Florida,
and then they beat Kentucky in the winner's bracket.
So that's the other side.
It's like all Southern teams.
It's great.
Yeah. Oh, dude.
That's my Texas.
Yeah, a team from Texas.
Yeah, you got that right, Jeff.
Yeah.
I was going to say in that one Mexican team,
but yeah, we're good.
Yeah.
So you got Florida State left Florida, Kentucky, A&M.
There's got to be someone
Tennessee. Yeah. So NC State
and Florida State knocked down on that side.
Tennessee and North Carolina.
Tennessee Florida State game.
That game was wild.
That was wild. They came back.
Tennessee, the Vols.
Got hit for the cycle.
It's got a bad feeling.
And it seems being held together by duct tape right now.
So, everybody's hurt.
Do they have any thousand mile an hour tape?
Oh.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
Trace so far a movie as they remember what thousand mile an hour tape is. maybe I don't know eventually Trey Sofar movie
I can't even remember what
1000mph tape is
is that like 550 cord
oh 550 cord
I know what 550 cord is
you know what that is
you ever heard of gaff tape
that's my favorite tape
really strong
it's actually really great it's great like
potential sponsor gaff tape mr gaff i was gonna say flex seal flex seal that's good
that's a good one that would be a great sponsor give flex seal on this train i was gonna say
seafoam yeah gaff tape's great it's kind of like duct tape uh you see it a lot in like stages production or
stuff like that okay and it's it's basically like duct tape but like the the thing gaffers
tape is like the whole thing and the gaffer's job is to tape down all the cords oh yeah we
use this at the arnold yeah yeah and it doesn't use res it doesn't leave residue like a duct tape
it's like really strong still yeah yeah it's primarily coaches use it right
yeah yeah huge huge gaffers guys gaffers yeah well with that um i could do it i don't feel
qualified pj great producer of the episode but like it's definitely not his job and like jeff
welcome back but i mean i don't like i don't know how here we are we're like blake shelton
trying to write a song for chris stapleton there's really only one person we need the songwriter to
sing this one it's the song right here trey bring us down for landing and also before you do don't
forget that we let you off the hook this week
on an amateur lifting update.
But that means next week we'll come to Guns Blazing.
Jeff, slide one.
Slide one.
Slide one.
I did a lot of that fishing trip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But anyway, bring us in for a landing.
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