The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 29: Trump, Military Medals & Getting Back In The Gym
Episode Date: July 19, 2024Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Tex...an, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Join the Slack and Use code OKAY: https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ks Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Bitcoin Is Back 04:54 - Heat Wave 07:56 - Jeff and Tres Join 08:59 - Tres Lifting Update 25:18 - RIP Richard Simmons 28:16 - Decline of Smoking 35:07 - National Anthem Disaster 42:30 - Trump Assassination Attempt 01:04:24 - Marine Medals 01:16:34 - Lift Hard Live Easy Classic 01:20:01 - Connor King Calls In! 01:30:46 - Saved Rounds
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All right, and welcome back to episode 029 of the OK Podcast, powered by the Strength
Co. Today is July the 16th in the year of our Lord, 2024, and the block height is 852527.
Shout out, Zach Coppola.
Shout out.
We need to talk Bitcoin prices here in a minute because they surprised me a little bit today
when that comes up. But I got to say that we finally got the
Bitcoin press we've been waiting for. What do you mean? Well, some guys on the internet on X,
Brian Harrington, longtime follower of who this podcast is powered by, The Strength Co.
And I want to say he's Orange County. You know, this is going to sound like,
Oh, I can't remember who everyone is. My account must be huge. And I don't, I don't mean it to
sound like that, but when you've only interacted with people online and never face to face,
right. That does happen. And then people get busy. Yeah. And especially in the lifting world,
when they get busy, who do they not want to talk to
me yeah because they feel guilty ah and so i'm not saying that brian feels guilty and i think
it's brian harry's 99 sure but he's a bigger crypto account okay and uh yeah he screenshotted a um
a spot from our youtube clip where i'm holding the bitcoin grenade which is over there on the
other side of the room right now and he saw saw the clock by its block fire right block clock
many I forget who makes it he's like is this a Bitcoin podcast well he mentioned like no
way at Grand SSC with and then he tagged the two companies and I grabbed the two companies
and shout out Zach Copley he didn't send us any crap this is like if you're a if you're
a bitcoiner no this is like
this is niche yes niche merch right wait is it niche or niche serious question i think it's
both are acceptable okay um but anyway now i want to look it up but yeah tweeting too much
about lifting and current events here we go here. Here we go. Crypto cloaks, grenade, and oh, and repping
the Bitcoin block. Yeah. Brian Harrington, Temecula, California. Yeah. Now I'm seeing
his face. I remember him from that. But anyway, just funny. We talk about Bitcoin. I have a lot
of people that have asked me like, wait, I was really surprised that you like Bitcoin. Should
I get into the Bitcoin? First of all, why are you surprised? And I'm like, why are you surprised? Yeah,
first of all. Next thing you're going to tell me you went carnivore or something.
Yeah, exactly. So first of all, why are you surprised? And then, so I've had people that
don't know much about it. I mean, obviously everyone has heard of it, but that have asked
me questions and so I've talked to them. But it was just funny that people that are in the crypto scene
found the OK Podcast.
We're making a dent in the crypto community.
Hey, all I have to say is the price.
Oh, we just went back to the block.
That would have been perfect.
But I know we're at 65 and some change.
I have an update.
OK.
So last week, if you're a loyal listener, you'd know this.
I talked about Germany selling all their Bitcoin.
Yeah, you did.
And the crypto crowd is fighting the Germans right now.
And check this out.
Germany sold all of their Bitcoin for about $54,000.
Okay.
If they waited two days, they could have made an extra $3.05 billion.
Man, that's like almost as much money as Elon Musk is going to give to Donald
Trump in the next nine months. Was it $45 million a month? Dude, that guy's funny. Yeah, it's
interesting. But anyway, Bitcoin's coming back. But the important thing to remember is that we
were never really down because episode 001, which we on january 4th from the same place we
are now the beautiful upstate of south carolina we're never down bitcoin was in the 40s um and
we're sitting at 65 and uh once the guys get on we're definitely gonna talk some current events
tonight anything happen well i just been going on no yeah right But, but like to wrap up the Bitcoin piece, you know, I thought about it. Here
we go. 65, four 37. So, you know, usually I sit there at my desk and I work for a large portion
of the day. I never like have to Google what's the price of Bitcoin anymore. I just look over
at the clock, but I don't know if you know this, but X has had all my attention for about three
days. I don't know why. And I've just got to get off. And I've just been totally into selling 45-pound plates
and seeing what's going on in the news.
And I just realized, oh, I have no idea what the price of Bitcoin was.
And I think I looked over, and I could be wrong,
but it's like 52 and some change.
Yeah.
Because my initial thought was like, whoa, maybe Bitcoin is pumping
because this happened.
Right.
But anyway, now it's pumped up and it's back but i
didn't realize that till maybe 30 minutes ago and i looked over and i saw it but yeah um down is just
a state of mind i think yeah yeah yeah we're good we're good so back in the 65s um the weather
not in the 65s it's a little bit north of that i don't know how you're wearing a flannel and i love
i love poncho outdoors potential sponsor big fly fishing company this is this is my problem in
miami so you walk outside and it's scorching hot outside right then you go inside and everyone
blasts ac it is true i run hot it's 68 degrees in here exactly so i knew hey it's gonna be chilly
do i either suffer during the podcast or in my walkover?
And I chose the walkover.
Okay.
Jocko would have just told you to suffer all the time.
He would have had me put the flannel on to walk over and then take it off when I get here.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's just maximum suffering.
Maximum suffering.
Stay hard.
Stay hard.
But yeah.
Anyway, it's really hot here.
It's in the 90s.
Being in California last week was funny because they had a heat wave and I think it was like low nineties,
but there was no humidity and I hate, you know, I've hated being in California for 10, 12 years
as an adult. And you know, what does dad say when dad calls you first? He asked you if you went to
church, then he asked you how's the weather and I'd be like man. I've been in twenty nine palms that it's like my skin is melting. It's a hundred and eighteen degrees and he would just say yeah, but it's a dry heat. Yeah, but it's a dry and I always hated that like well yeah technically it's a dry heat, but it's still really hot and then having been you know South Carolina ramped up two weeks ago started hitting 90 in the humidity and then went to California and they were like heat wave 88 degrees.
And I was like, but it's a dry heat.
That's like saying, that's like saying like, yeah, I pulled a 650 pound deadlift.
You're like, but it was sumo, right?
Oh yeah.
Okay.
I thought you were going to say, but it was RP six.
No, no.
I mean like it's like, okay, it was sumo, but like, yeah, it's 650. Yeah. If it's 650, but, uh, I mean like it's like okay, it was sumo, but like yeah, it's six
fifty. Yeah, it's six fifty, but but yeah, it's been hot hot here. We are headed to Aberdeen,
South Dakota for the lift hard live easy to by the time you listen to this. I'll be standing in
front of Mount Rushmore Friday morning. Do you mean the real one or the more famous one? The
billboard? The real one. Yeah, I probably won't get to the billboard till Friday afternoon.
Okay. Yeah. So in South Dakota, just because you're in the state doesn't mean you're
a quick skip, jump and a hop from the next place over. It's actually still pretty spread out. But
Diane and I will be meeting Connor in Rapid City Thursday morning.
Check out Mount Rushmore.
Check out Deadwood.
Did you ever watch the show, Deadwood?
No.
I didn't either.
I know that it's for you starting strength,
Ripito Heads.
It's a big Ripito favorite,
but I've actually never seen it.
I've seen clips of it,
but I guess the town is set up and it's Western and stuff.
So we're going to check that out. All right, man. You're going man you're gonna be lifting harder you're gonna be living easy i'm doing that
bench comp but we'll probably talk about that with the boys speaking of which all right all right all
right all right all right all right texas is in the sec so little mat McConaughey intro to episode 029 of the
okay okay okay guide on podcast power by strength come your host grant Brody here
in studio with PJ we got a Major Jeff Biggie joining us from,
we'll just call it the Greater Salt Lake area.
Everyone render a salute,
just like Lee Greenwood last night,
which we may touch on.
And then we have Mr. Trey,
once a Marine, always a Marine,
best logistician I ever knew,
coming to us from Oklahoma City tonight, right?
That's correct.
Yeah, and I don't want
to steal Jeff's slide
deck, but sometimes before
you get to that agenda slide,
you just
bluff everybody. Bottom line,
up front, and if there's one thing I know,
it's about 90 minutes
ago, I got a photo of a squat
rack and a man ready
to submit to the barbell are you are you back to
lifting i it's it was ugly it was ugly but i did it ugly in what way i you know i i forgot i forgot
how okay everything i learned i went in. There was these weird circles, heavy.
Didn't know what they were.
Chinese made.
Yeah.
No, man, it was good.
It felt good to get back on it.
I'm definitely out of shape.
I've been deloading for the past two months.
Big deload.
Yeah, big deload.
Yeah.
Don't forget to get back into it.
So you went back to the gym first day, and called me yesterday and you asked me a couple of questions.
And I want to talk about some of the stuff.
Yeah, man.
I think that would actually be a good topic to kind of get back into.
So I was.
So reintroducing a previous segment known to the podcast for maybe the first 16 weeks.
Yeah.
And it was called Amateur L lifting update brought to you by Trey
Gotlitch.
And so this segment is now back.
Go ahead.
It's good to be back.
If you got questions about,
if you got,
if you got a question about taxes,
call BW.
Got a question about lifting,
call Grant.
That's right.
So I was talking with Jeff,
I think the end of last week,
kind of post show.
And we were trying to figure out,
I'm like,
Jeff,
like I got like 30 45 minutes
probably a day like a good window where i could kind of get some lifting in right with twins work
everything we got going on i'm like probably 35 minutes like what makes the most sense to kind of
do right i'm like i can't like you know like we talked about you can't get a full two hour lift
in so like what's the most efficient way to spend my time in there?
And I was telling, I think we talked about, like, hit a major lift and then maybe do, like, a HIIT exercise or some sort.
High intensity, right?
And I talked to you, called you yesterday.
We were talking about it.
And you said, you said kind of keep the HIIT or the cardio down a little bit.
If I'm wrong, jump in here.
But keep the cardio down a little bit and then do it on the days where you do upper body.
So have your major lifts four days a week and then do five sets of five on squat.
When you're doing your bench throw in like a
10 to 20 minute cardio and then deadlift overhead press 10 to minute cardio so that's kind of i
started doing that today i started doing uh i did squats today did five sets of five
start off light um 275 for five sets of five and i'm five. I guess trying to see how it feels like and go from there.
You're going to be so sore, by the way.
You shouldn't have done a five-by-five day one.
But anyway.
No, no, I thought that.
You won.
Yeah, you won.
Yeah, fine.
A coach could drive you.
No, and I think Jeff will mostly agree with this i was just saying hey on days
that you squat it is hard to get a good heavy squat workout in in less than 40 minutes like
because you go in there you got to get your shoulders loosened up you got to get your hips
loosened up your knees you could do that through my methods of just like squatting the empty bar
for like three four sets of five you can do it like that you could just like squatting the empty bar for like three, four sets of five.
You can do it if you're a hip circle person, if you're a mobility person.
But it's just like there's a lot more to getting into squatting.
So I was just saying if you only have 30 to 40 minutes a day, which I think is fine, on the days that you squat and deadlift, you're probably only squatting and deadlift.
But the inverse of that is when you go in
and you're just going to press four sets of five,
you're probably done in 20 minutes.
So then you have the ability to do some conditioning
or some arms or some chin-ups or some lat pull-downs
or something else that's like upper body related.
I just don't like when people are coming back from the gym or from out of the gym and they
enter with everyday cardio. Um, cause I just think they get exhausted. They get weirdly sore. Like
you're going to be from doing five by five day one, right? I probably would have had to do three
by five today if I was like there with you in person and the next week made that a five by five but you're gonna be fine but it's just so you do five by five squats a day tomorrow yeah
do you play quarterback are you in an armchair right now yeah I'm an armchair yeah I'm actually
this is actually this is actually an Equipol it's a Mexican armchair uh yeah yeah I'm sorry. Continue. You're sorry. You just, you just ruined this YouTube clip.
I don't know.
I will ever recover.
Yeah.
Hold all jokes until the end,
Mr.
Armchair.
But yeah,
yeah, it's ruined.
Cardio three by five.
Cardio every day.
No,
I was just saying,
if you're coming back from not being in the gym,
that all of these things that later aren't like very much soreness inducing for like your first week are super soreness inducing.
And so if you add in a bunch of cardio, depending on what that is, maybe it's box jumps, maybe it's side straddle hops, whatever it is, then you just feel like wrecked and then you're less likely to keep going.
So I'm just, hey, like start one lift a day, four days a week.
The next week, maybe add in some
ancillary exercises on your upper body days. The next week started to add in some hit stuff, um,
and just not go like too aggressive. And I, I would say if you're in, Hey, I'll live, I'll,
I'll live through this in October and I'll call my own bluff if I need to. But I would say that like your most
important thing is that you say, Hey, my workout. And I don't know what the number is. Maybe it's
30, maybe it's 35, maybe it's 40, but whatever it is. And like every five minutes probably matters
with your current schedule to be like, I have 30 minutes. And, and then you're just trying to
maximize, you know, the most that you can do with that and then not not go over and, you know, run into other issues.
Yeah. Yeah. No, I think in I don't know, like this might be a better question for for Jeff.
You could answer it, too. But like when you let's say upper body, actually, if you want to do hit, are you doing like a cardio hit thing that kind of that's what i'm looking for
that kind of goes with like what you're doing that day or like so if i'm doing chest like what would
be it would be a good cardio to follow that up with you know what i mean um for me like i guess
it kind of depends if you're like press it and bench it in like the same week so like you don't
want to then do something that's going to like be a lot of like,
all right,
I just did press.
Now I'm going to do a bunch of like,
you know,
maybe like rounds of like push press and burpees or something like that.
Cause then you're just like smashing like all your kind of like pressing
muscles,
your triceps and your shoulders.
So you then are maybe going to affect follow on days.
If you're doing bench you
know three days four days from then um i mean for me i think like to try not to interfere too much
i think just machines are great for that sort of stuff if you got one of those fan bikes those are
pretty phenomenal row machine row machines are great because again like you're not going to beat
yourself up too much from those like you'll get the good like again, like you're not going to beat yourself up too much from those.
Like you'll get the good like cardio stimulus, but you're not going to get kind of like the potential over like just smashing that one muscle group.
If you're like, OK, I want to save my legs for squats or deadlifts the next day.
So I'm just going to go super hard on the arms. You may find that like, OK, that's too much volume for that.
And then so I think machines are super great
because you're not really gonna get sore from them you can do intervals you can do longer kind
of more like endurancey type stuff um so yeah rowers fan bikes those skiergs um yeah that sort
of stuff's great i just think it really i mean i grew jeff on most of that i just think it depends
for the condition so if you have 35 minutes and you're going to the gym and you're doing an overhead press for,
I don't know, three sets of five, and that's like your strength work. Then when you get to
your conditioning work, what is the goal? Is the goal an elevated heart rate for a sustained amount
of time? If like that is the only goal, I'm picking things that elevate my heart rate,
but as Jeff said, aren't going to make me super sore or affect my other strength things later so an assault bike's great
a rower early on will actually make you kind of sore but if you do it like hey twice a week i'm
going to do this rower at these intervals you'll actually adapt to that range of motion you'll be
fine uh sprints you know are Kettlebells early on are going
to make your low back and hamstrings real sore, but if you do them regularly, you'll probably be
fine. And if you do them heavy enough, then you don't have to do really a ton of reps to get your
heart rate up, right? If you grab an 80-pound kettlebell and do a set of 10, your heart rate's
going to be pegged, especially if you've already pressed. Whereas if you grab a 20 pounder, you might have to do 65 reps of the same range of motion to get the
heart rate up. And now you're going to have a soreness issue. So I would just always like
kind of manage that. And, you know, I'm always going to be biased towards, I think strength is
the best bang for your buck personally. I also think you need a base of conditioning, like you
need it. But like for you, if we of conditioning. You need it. But for you,
if we're just frank,
we're eight, ten weeks
of coming out
of really doing nothing
except surviving
two new babies
and still running your job
and stuff.
So to me, I'd be like,
hey, get back to the gym
and get your lifting base up.
Okay, you've been doing
pretty good at that.
Now let's add it.
That's how I would approach it,
but I'm always biased
to the strength side.
Gotcha.
Okay.
So then I guess two more questions with that would be one is as far as like
week over week,
are you,
are you putting on,
are you just gradually going up still the same?
Like,
is it the same thing for the strength lifts?
Yeah.
Cause you,
it's the,
the program is like a major,
you do four times a week doing a major lift every
day. Like what does that look like as far as, yeah, I mean, I think you try to linear progress
it, especially because you've been out of the, out of it for a few, a little while, you're going
to be able to add five pounds every week and just be fine. Uh, I also think the difference between
you, just like our friend BW, who's actually back in the gym, just like you kind of same schedule,
just like our friend BW, who's actually back in the gym, just like you kind of same schedule,
one lift a day, is you guys are just like strong. Like he went back, he's like, yeah,
so I went back and I did what you said, a top set of five deadlifts and then back off. I did my top set at 335 and then went down to 300. And it's like, man, I've coached so many people
that would like give their left whatever to deadlift 335.
And like,
this is what you're doing after four months out of the gym.
But I do think that's a difference because if you're actually strong and your strength is like one came from God to George straight three from Sam
Houston and four from your time in the Marine Corps.
No,
but like you can go in and do two sets of five on deadlift.
And because you're strong, it's a significant event.
If I had the same like new dad coming to me, told me at 30 minutes and he's completely untrained,
I'm probably telling him do two lifts a day because he's so detrained. Like how long does
it take to warm up to 90 pounds on a squat? Not very long. Right. And then he knocks out three
sets of five and he's, I don't know, he's done in 18, 19 minutes. It's like, you might get through a whole workout. And then as you know, two or three
lifts started to cross, whatever his timing threshold is. Okay. Now we start chopping lifts,
but yes, in general, I think, Hey, I'm squatting once a week. That's actually super easy. Every
time I go in, what was my reps and sets last week? Five by five. I bet you'll get 10 weeks of life out of that just by adding five.
You might get more life out of it.
And then later you might have to say like, hey, now I've run this up from whatever you did today, 275 to 340.
What should I do now?
And it's like, well, did your time change?
Do you have the same amount of time available yeah you know and then you could say hey well why don't we go in and hit two top triples or doubles at like a significantly heavier
weight and then come down you know then you can play with it later but i think at first it's all
just like getting back in and getting consistent and you you brought up an interesting point not
to beat this topic to to death but you brought an interesting point yesterday as far as keeping the
cardio at a reasonable level one because you don't want to get burnt out but then two you said just
get hungry like like i put on some pounds just eating church people bring over church dishes
from the girls you know what i mean just what was a lasagna or whatever it might be so just
crushing carbs and taking care of babies what I've been doing the last two months.
You put on some weight.
Yeah.
So you're trying to get back down.
Yeah.
Try to keep that back down.
So you said I, in my mind, I think, hey, get the cardio up and just because like get the heart rate up, try to lose some weight.
But it's almost counterintuitive to kind of what you were saying as far as like put the strength in and then yes get your cardio in but not as much as you think because it's going to make you hungrier
and you're going to i don't know kind of yeah no no exactly one if you're a young man and you want
to gain a lot of weight stop going on youtube and watching strength co videos and just go to church
and go to lunch with the old people after church and eat trays lasagna and casserole that's the ultimate
join join the prayer team step two step two a couple babies step three
i got honestly that is probably the best way to put on some mass. I mean, it's not even hard.
You're so fatigued.
How can you not eat an entire tray of sweet potato casserole?
Like, look at it.
No, I was just saying, I think that when you're trying to get back in the gym and weight loss is a goal, like, yes, you do need to do some conditioning.
But people, they're like, all right, I'm going to go do 55 minutes on the Stairmaster.
And it's like, well, it's like well they didn't
they didn't like they burned calories of course but not like an astronomical amount they didn't
get really stronger like or you wouldn't necessarily get stronger from the stair
master a guy that's untrained will get stronger from the stair master because he's like weak as
it can be but like you who have a base of strength are not gonna get stronger for it so you didn't
check that box and what'd you do you got like super hot and super sweaty and drained all your electrolytes. And now you're
just like hungry. And aunt Joan left another casserole in the fridge. And I just think that
sometimes it's like people are trying to, you know, out cardio a bad diet. And when they add
in the cardio more of it, they get hungrier and so i mean obviously
nutrition plays a big role in this but i just think get back in the gym get your strength stuff
down and then you can get a lot of heart work in like six to eight minutes jeff taught me that
like you don't have to do a 40 minute wad like do the 50 cal challenge in an assault bike that's
like three and a half minutes of absolute living hell. The worst. Of like just heart.
Like, you know, like you don't need a bunch of time doing that.
But anyway.
All right.
Good talk.
Love it.
Love it.
I'll keep my jokes to the end next time.
Oh, goodness.
Oh, that reminded me.
There's a good, some other podcast I was listening to.
They were talking about working out.
And, like, there's a guy that's in the Army.
And he's always, like, you know, he was talking to a group of soldiers.
And he's like, okay, well, what makes a good workout?
Someone tops it.
You got to be really sweaty at the end.
And then someone else is like, well, you know, if you're, like, super tired.
And he's like, oh, if you're sore, like, if you're sore and you're hurting, like, the next day, like, these are all, like, the things that constitute a good workout. And he's like oh if you're sore like if you're sore and you're hurting like the next day like these are all like the things that constitute a good workout and he's like huh okay well meet me
in a sauna at 3 a.m in the morning and i'll punch you in the face like is that a good workout like
you're gonna be sore you're gonna be tired you're gonna be sweaty it's like no that's not what makes
a good workout like you gotta you got to train. Yeah.
Training continues.
All right. So I'd say, like, it's been a pretty slow week in America.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, we're going to talk about the biggest story, obviously, of the week.
And that's...
I know where you're going with this.
Rest in peace.
Richard.
Richard Simmons.
Richard Simmons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, this is the health and fitness podcast.
Biggest story of the week.
He's a legend.
Yeah.
Got overshadowed by some other stuff.
Other stuff, yeah.
Unfortunately.
You know.
You got a little recap on Richard Simmons' life?
I mean, you know, sweating to the oldies, big, big cardio.
He's a big cardio guy, or was a big cardio guy.
Not really much into the weights, really into headbands, unitards, that sort of stuff.
I thought you were going to say heaven for a second.
Oh.
Hopefully.
Yeah, God knows his heart.
We hope he's not sweating it out down below.
You know, he got a lot of people working out.
A lot of people, right? Just of people right just get them moving you
gotta give them something that's like different something that's fun i'm doing something they're
like was he the fig newton guy was that did he like promote the fig newton cookies was that
richard simmons what maybe yeah i think this is i think this is right i'm gonna have to fact check
myself richard simmons take right there yeah i don't think he's
known for fig newtons that's not like his thing it may have been someone maybe he's like his early
days he was on the fig newton bandwagon that's how they got his start i mean i think they were
originally like kind of like sold as like a well this is like the healthy cookie like you know it's
got figs in it oh they definitely were healthy yeah maybe he was just on the pack or something
yeah i don't know that could be that could be wrong but uh well you're here first folks yeah big fig newton richard simmon maybe
they were yeah it was the fig newton guy not to be confused with newton gringrich gingrich
old newt wasn't he how did he die was he assassinated yes man headed right for it gosh pj newt uh no he just died right
yeah i'm going back to that newton geigerich the speaker the cookie yeah god uh 76 died mixed laughs and
sweat fitness guru probably the og fitness guru yeah up there he's up there he's up there at least
i mean he's behind jane fonda in my opinion pretty much yeah my mom had both those tapes growing up
richard simmons and jane fonda and would like dance around the living room with like weighted My mom had both those tapes growing up. Richard Simmons and Jane Fonda.
And would dance around the living room
with weighted things on her wrists and stuff.
What's her name?
Jillian Michaels?
Jillian Michael?
Oh yeah, from Biggest Loser?
I think so.
She's modern day.
She's modern day.
Modern day is like 2000.
Yeah, to us. Yeah,. She's modern day. Modern day is like 2000. Yeah.
Yeah.
To us.
Yeah.
It's basically modern.
What else?
Other things.
Other things.
I got a story.
Yes.
Love it.
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plant in Colorado to keep up with steep demand for zinc nicotine patches. I thought he said
Phyllis and he was going to be talking about his aunt, but he's talking about Philip Morris.
Philip Morris. Yeah, it sounded like shit.
Yeah, I may have said that. I was thrown for a loop. I was like, ah,
I may have said that. I was thrown for a loop.
I was like, ah, Phyllis.
This story took a turn.
Yeah.
They can't make them fast enough.
They can't.
It's that song in the summer.
Typing them up.
It's that song in the summer.
Pop another zine and take it slow.
They're not taking it slow.
They're taking it fast.
Have you guys noticed a downtick in seeing cigarette smokers where you live?
Serious question.
Big time.
Or seeing dippers in the United States Marine Corps?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think the last time I saw just a person around, like smoking in public.
We live near a pizza restaurant, and the pizza restaurant backs up to the alley that we access our place through. And they actually,
I've been like kind of paying attention to this,
two of them vape or I don't know if the whole staff,
but from that establishment,
there's definitely two people that vape and then one that smokes.
But then I realized like, I'm not seeing as many people smoking, you know,
in and around town as I feel like i used to and i wonder
if that's the uh the phyllis morris effect yeah i think that's just all the smokers dying and then
and now there you go and then there's all these like everyone's vaping
i don't know everybody's vaping for. We're zenning. We're zenning. There's definitely a downtick in Coca-Cola bottles
going around DOD facilities getting spit into nonstop.
There's definitely a large downtick in that.
That's a shame.
100%.
Yeah.
Everyone's on zen.
Actually, funny.
Everyone's doing it.
Funny, I probably shouldn't say it
since I'm still in 14th Marines Regiment,
but we got a new colonel
and i was asking some folks up there like hey so like well how's the new colonel and they're like
oh he's he's he's strict i'm like oh yeah like what he said he says you can't like just brief
with a dip in and he doesn't want to see any dip bottles i was like and this this this affected your life like how did this affect your life this
groundbreaking is unheard of was it was the colonel before dipping while he was talking
uh no comment yeah i could well it's just like it's either it's one extreme or the other usually
i've seen but on both hands yeah wait is it not usually made in the USA?
What?
Well, you said it's in Colorado now.
It's Swedish.
It's a Swedish product.
I'm pretty sure.
Because it's like a byproduct of snus, right?
Yes.
So is this Colorado plant like the first one in the States or something?
It must be.
Where is it?
What's like...
Okay, so...
Bringing jobs to America.
What's the top three ways to get nicotine?
Like top coolest ways,
because I feel like vaping is not the coolest way.
Cigarettes.
At least cool.
It's low cigarettes.
Yeah.
Cigarettes got to be the coolest.
Oh,
by far.
You ever seen Madman?
Yeah,
of course.
I can't watch that show.
I know.
Yeah.
Three,
three,
three,
three packs later.
Come on.
Episode two. Just smoking all day. That was a great season. three packs later I'm on episode two
smoking all day
that was a great season
pull it out of the suit jacket
oh dude
well cool gold
cases one pops out
it's too cool man
top three cigar
I think cigars up there
it's gotta be up there
and I feel like Zinn is cooler than it might be I think cigar's up there. It's got to be up there.
And I feel like Zinn is cooler than it might be.
Cigar's coolest.
If you win something,
you smoke a cigar.
Yeah.
You could be on both ends of the
socioeconomic spectrum
ripping seas.
That's true.
And I would say third, Zinn is definitely not top three i tend to agree of this crazy of this crazy list i would say third is uh
my granddad smoked a pipe and you empty it you empty it like baked potato when you're done
and you have it like right he would keep it right here. And the thing with Pipe is like
Pipe smells really good. Smells good.
Really good. Dude, I've never smoked a Pipe.
Have you guys done that? A couple times.
Pipes? Yeah.
Yeah. Pipes are cool.
Pipes are cool. Pipes are cool. Yeah, I don't think
Zinn's...
Maybe Pipes versus Cigar.
I mean, Sherlock Holmes.
Pipes is the classiest.
Yeah, there you go.
It is.
It kind of feels English, though.
Yeah.
And we're still in July, so, you know,
you're going to have to hand me a pack of Paul Mauls.
Yeah, dude.
You're going to have to send me some loose-leaf tobacco
and rolling papers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, well, that's good enough for you to put a Zen can on the thumbnail right it's got that's what you're after sponsor Zines I just think
about pipes if they if they sponsor us and they'll go to the number one spot of
Jordy's list yeah yeah yeah for sure well they'll go to all our number one
spot our legion C is very cheap, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it sounds like Grant Strength Co. needs to manufacture nicotine pouches.
Yeah.
So he needs to get on that.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Hey, Grant, I just found something I like.
Can you make it?
You should partner with Phyllis Morris.
And then, like, give it to me for free.
Yeah, everyone loves that.
Actually, speaking of that, quick plug.
We plugged the jeans earlier in
the year the gene guy he means well he says he's going to come to the pod there's no update on the
jeans except that he still says it's going to happen and that is kind of like his business
he's like oh we're going to do it it just takes a long time so that will happen but speaking of
other random things that we're making that are actually coming to fruition. I have the first ever Strength Co. cast iron pan
baked and pre-seasoned professionally
at an industrial level headed to my house.
Dude.
So the cast iron pan, I'm hoping to launch those this fall.
It weighs 45 pounds.
No.
Everyone's just obsessed with 45 right now. It weighs 100, Trey. Yeah,
it's 100 pounds. I think it's just under eight. Nice, dude. It's going to be product of the year.
I mean, gear. Yeah. Year. Year. I said year. Yeah. PJ over there on the gear. think it's a I think it's a 12 inch but yeah
anyway that's happened and next slide should we talk about the second biggest
news story of the week
yes yes um that was amazing dude what's her name uh ingrid ingrid something dude the best part about that was she famous she must be like a maybe a little bit
in nashville maybe just a little bit the best part to me was like she got to the bridge section
and she it was like and the rock is the bridge section and she, it was like,
and the rock is right there.
And it was so bad.
It's probably the worst part of it.
And then the fireworks start going off.
It was like,
this feels like a troll.
They're like,
that's the part to me.
Do we do it?
Do we have to do it?
They're like,
we got to do it.
We have to just send it.
So this was,
this was the home run Derby national Anthem.
Home run Derby national Anthem going on same time as the RNC.
Deep in the heart.
And the reason that's funny is it's because my nephew was with my grandparents.
And I'm like, hey, you having a good time over there?
He's like, yeah, it's good.
They pretty much just watched the TV looking for Trump updates.
And I was like, so you're not watching the Home Run Derby?
He's like, no, we're watching the RNC.
I was like, yeah, I knew that.
That was a joke.
And he's like, oh, right.
But so I turned on the RNC because my family thread was talking about stuff.
Or no, I turned on the Home Run Derby.
I took a picture and sent it.
And the best part was, it was after the National Anthem,
was when you watch the National Anthem, it goes to the white guys and they're like trying not to laugh.
They're like standing on those stars,
like holding their bats.
And then it goes to like the Dominicans and like people from other
countries.
And they have this like quizzical look on their eyes where it's like,
I don't know if these guys speak English or not,
but they're like,
this is not correct.
And I don't know what to do with my baseball bat right now.
And my hands over my heart and I'm just going to stand here.
Yeah, that was terrible.
My favorite is that she comes out today.
You know what?
God bless her.
Actually, before she tells us about her coming out,
tell me about her getting roasted because I didn't see a lot of that.
I didn't either.
I mean, I saw some of it.
So ESPN posted the video, right?
And I think it was up for 10 minutes
and they posted it like
not like sincerely
like it wasn't like a
hey check out this train wreck
it was like
oh
they knew what they were doing
for sure
yeah
100%
clickbait baby
take it down
and then
but then I think I
I sent it to y'all
and I
I think I texted you
like I've never seen the country so unified in dunking on this chick.
Like, just everyone dunking on this chick.
And it was hilarious just going up and down the comments.
My cousin would say that she sang in the key of R-flat.
Hey.
Hey.
Pudum, pudum, puum.
But, yeah. I don't know. I mean. It was pretty. Ew. You think she got a bunch of downloads?flat. Hey. But yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it was pretty.
You think she got a bunch of downloads? She came out today.
So like Spotify hits?
She came out today.
She said she was drunk, right?
Yeah, she came out today and she apologized.
And she said, sorry, I was drunk.
I'm going to get help.
You know what?
God bless you.
God bless America.
It's basically what she said, you know,
hope she gets better, but I just,
hey, sorry, I was drunk.
Yeah, to me, I wouldn't think it was funny
if she just would have stopped it there.
She, like, looks like, she's, like,
kind of, like, hunched over, like, doesn't look,
like, usually they're all, like, done up
and, like, you know, they're kind of, like,
getting into it, but she was just, like,
emotionless, this, like, kind of hair in her face like singing so i'm like okay yeah maybe she
wakes up just like oh that was today yeah so it's in uh good it's in so it's held in uh texas rangers
stadium is the all-star game and that cody johnson the country music singer was singing today okay
and like the rangers fan account was like hey we know the bar was set super low but cody johnson
killed it today they should have just called chris stapleton yeah legend got the job done
uh just played that video and just been like all right we apologize for the here here's just a
video from chris stapleton doing it here we go we found this on his instagram we're just gonna play
this well so i thought it was interesting i actually wonder if it's worse than her being drunk
because i'm no uh expert in contracts for people getting hired to sing uh for nationally broadcasted things but i assume there are things in the
contract like you will not be drunk like you will not be whatever and i was like i wonder what her
agent slash handler like whatever was going on they were like yeah best thing you can do is just
say you're drunk and going to rehab i mean no but like because there's a business side to that right
like there there's contracts that were signed and they're like yeah just just tell them you
were drunk we'll send you to like one of these resort rehab things for a couple months you'll
just chill out by the pool in arizona she said she said i heard they're fun yeah that was the
last part of the tweet maybe i don't know yeah yeah i hear it's super fun
see how the trimmers go for you but yeah i don't know she gets better that's it like kind of going
back to the whole agent thing like kaylee and i kind of were like well what does her actual music
sound like so we like sampled a couple songs and listened to it and it's like pretty heavily produced like auto-tune and you're
like i don't know if i was her like they kind of set you up for failure even if you're not drunk i
don't think she would have hit those notes all that great like she was like that yeah was not
like she's not like a national anthem singer and you know like chris stapleton crushing the notes
or like lady gaga i mean come on he's He's not your everyday. He's not your, like.
Those aren't your everyday national anthem.
There was times.
Either though.
Just Whitney Houston or.
Yeah, true.
You know.
When she was singing and she was like in her range,
like she sounded okay.
It started okay.
Okay.
Okay.
She said, but it was when she started to like,
like get fancy with it. She would go either too high. And I and i'm like just this is your sweet spot stay right there i've uh i've i've um worked with and played with
like a bunch of different singers so i've like heard them talk about like gigs afterwards right
do like the what do you guys do you guys call it like a what's like after the mission or the debrief an aar or an aar they do the action
review debrief yeah and so like i understand like how this song national anthem is pretty tough to
sing like it's a pretty big range right and i was just listening to her and i just knew in my head
she she totally just bailed on all of the big notes she's like land of the free like she's just just like we're
gonna bring it right back down like we're not staying up there but like every big heart every
heart's part of that song she just completely jumped ship tanked you know what she knew we needed that as Americans. We did. We did. We did.
We needed that.
Dag gum.
So I think, do I know what the next slide is, Jeff?
I don't know.
What do you think the next slide is?
Well, I think we need to approach it from a little different angle.
Okay.
And I first want to play a little pop quiz. From the right on the roof?
Oh, God.
I'm really not here to bash.
Actually, we'll just start with that question.
Jeff and Trey, this week, how many people have said to you,
as a military guy, what do you think about the Secret Service handling?
Have you gotten that question, Jeff?
Yeah, a couple times.
Yeah, like numerous times, right?
Yeah.
Like, well, let me tell you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All my Secret Service training.
Yeah. All my secret service training yeah yeah all my secret service training no but i was going to say actually a more fun and maybe educational way to approach this topic is
how many assassinations or assassination attempts can you think of that we can go around the room
and then two all of our parents should have been alive from the one that everyone should
know kennedy right and so kind of the difference of you know i've heard my dad tell his kennedy
story like i don't know at least four thousand times and then now you're kind of living you know
through the same type of thing so kind of the difference to that and like we all live through
9-11 so like i feel like you know it's a i don't know if you want to call it greater significance equal significance whatever terrible but a thing where it's like
yep i know where i was um but so i'll give away two for free i looked up like nine i think there's
i think it's actually like every 15 they get assassinated or attempted on but so obviously
we know lincoln and kennedy re, Reagan. Yep, that's there.
So Reagan would have been our lifetime.
I missed it.
You missed it.
Cheney tried to assassinate somebody.
That's different.
That's the vice president.
It was a reverse assassination.
That's a different game.
That's episode 030.
Sorry, I was drunk.
I'm going to rehab.
Yeah, exactly.
So how many can we think of outside of that?
Well, I guess just major ones.
Are you talking about what we're alive for?
Just historic. Is this any politician?
I was going to say presidents. say president okay president i haven't i
haven't seen one yeah meaning you have no like other assassinations although you bush bush did
technically uh when he was with the uh i think no the georgians threw like a a shoe grin no that
was a different one they threw a grenade uh and it was like in the vicinity No, that was a different one. They threw a grenade.
Uh,
and it was like in the,
I mean,
it was definitely an attempt,
but it wasn't like,
yeah,
yeah.
But Bush technically did.
Okay.
So then you have Reagan.
You put RFK.
I don't remember.
Uh,
didn't,
but yeah,
that's a good one running for president.
Right.
Uh,
and then you have,
uh, JFK. And then you have JFK.
And then you had Garfield.
The only other one.
So the only other two I knew that we have a name were Ford.
Oh, yeah.
And Lincoln.
Who got shot and kept giving the speech?
Teddy Roosevelt.
Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt.
Yeah.
Teddy Roosevelt.
Tough as nails, which kind of happened this weekend.
They got thrown around a lot. Yeah. Teddy Roosevelt. Tough as nails, which kind of happened this weekend.
They were saying he's got a lot of people
throwing around a lot.
Yeah.
All right.
Now, who got shot,
gave a speech,
or no,
who gave a speech?
And then died.
No.
That's because it was cold
and he got cold.
He was chilly.
That's it.
He didn't want to wear a hat.
He didn't get shot.
His wife was like,
I should wear a hat.
And he was like,
I'm not wearing a hat.
And then he died.
I'm good.
But it was like a four-hour speech or something like that.
It was something crazy.
I can't remember who that was.
Here's the official list.
Oldest to most recent.
Abraham Lincoln.
These are assassinations.
Successful ones.
Yeah. Garfield.
Success.
I'm drunk. Take me to rehab sorry mckinley uh yeah jfk and that was it who shot mckinley
how did that happen uh let's do let's do a little education here mckinley
uh september 6 1901 temple of music in, New York. This is what happens to people that study music.
Leon
Claus, an anarchist
anarchist anarchist, who
is the Antichrist
who was armed with a 32 caliber
Ivor Johnson safety automatic
revolver, sealed
underneath his handerchief
handkerchief and the
ricocheted off of the button
of McKinley's jacket
and then lodged in his sleeve,
and the second shot pierced his stomach.
So yeah, he was shot at a music festival.
Yeah.
Well, didn't Jack White have a song about it?
Made by the Street Cowboys.
It's the hardest button to button.
I don't know when he gets shot.
That's actually what that song's about.
He was saved.
Thank you, Jack White, for finally clearing that up.
He was saved by a metal
zincan in his breast pocket.
Thank you, Phyllis.
Just comes back around.
PJ's like, how many times can I bring this up to make
sure that all of our heads are just in cans this week?
You guys seen Mad Men?
Yeah.
Anyway, so
I was at the bowling alley. I hadn't bowled
in a long time. Came home.
I'd coached much Saturday.
I was like, D, let's go bowl.
It's hot. You don't look like you want to go outside.
Six months pregnant. She likes to bowl.
We go to bowl.
We're bowling like 10 minutes.
Get the news.
They turn on every TV in the bowling alley with it.
And like everyone just cling to the TV.
No one's throwing balls down towards the pens anymore.
It would be weird if someone was.
It would be weird if someone was.
But I was just like, wow.
Yeah.
One, a lot of people hate this guy i am in south carolina so like that doesn't really exist that much but like a lot of people
have thoughts about this and then everyone's just like wait and not even the president the
former president just got shot at and like the whole place it was all it was and i was just like
we have to go home like i don't like the news i don't watch the news i hate the news like i read it on x i never turn on the tv
talking heads watch news and i was like give me all the news i want to see all the news i want 17
different versions of commentation onto what happened and uh yes that's what i did saturday
night but i thought about it because my dad would always be like tell me about jfk and where he was
and he saw it happen and the difference was kennedy gives that big speech in dallas and then gets in the car it's
early tv days but like when the president's doing something everyone watches and so they were
actually watching you know as he got shot probably like i've never talked to jeff and trey about it
but like watching plane two right but we got we got tipped off by plane one and so now you're
watching plane two and so
this was a little bit different right you're watching the aftermath of it but i just thought
it was interesting because you know when you're a kid and you're growing up you hear all these like
you know like people that believe that we landed on the moon come on these people and they're like
yeah we all stuck around the tv and watch this moon landing happen and uh you know obviously
experienced that at 9 11 but, but as a kid.
And I don't know.
I thought it was interesting.
Yeah, man, for sure.
It's really kind of, as far as like you said, you're not a big news guy.
I'm not really either.
And then especially Abby, my wife, is definitely not a news person.
Couldn't tell you anything.
And dude, she was infatuated by
it like yeah like I we were watching it like trying to figure out like what's going on like
is everybody okay like what's the latest on it and then it like I think I leave to like
go do something like I'm out of the house I do something for work I'm five by five yeah and I
call I call Abby i go what are
you doing she's like watching the news i guess what still what so yeah so yeah abby like abby
like people even not in that world like yeah and it's just and it's just weird even forget the
political side i'm just thinking like hey where's the president yeah where's the president yeah like
i want to be like comforted right now like where's the president? Yeah. Where's the president? Yeah. Like, I want to be like comforted right now.
Like, where's the president, right?
And you just start to like think of all these things.
It's just interesting, like as Americans,
when that sort of stuff, I mean, it's been weird.
Even just the last three days, you know,
we often talk about how this is the most like polarizing things have been,
but it almost feels like there's like a weird source of like,
whoa,
like someone just shot a president of the United States.
It's like a weird sense of,
I don't know if you want to call it unity.
I don't think we're there yet,
but yeah,
it was a significant event.
Well,
so it's a,
it's a shared experience across.
There you go.
Yeah.
It rises above your,
I mean,
hopefully,
but it rises above your political leanings too. Like rises above your, I mean, hopefully, but it rises above your
political leanings too. Like it doesn't matter what president, what party they are. Right.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Or you even have people like, you know, I know a lot of people that work for the
Bush administration, Trump haters, right? Hate Trump. So Republican, but hate Trump. And they're just like,
man,
I watched that.
And I'm just like,
oh man,
we got to get like,
let's go America.
And like people that like hate,
like everyone but him because,
you know,
he's anti-establishment,
whatever.
We don't have to get into those weeds,
but it's just interesting how you,
and like all of a sudden these people are crossing over and I'm like,
whoa.
And then you have like a Portnoy who's, know all over the map politically and like he just like grabs that iconic photo is like this election's over i was like i kind of think he's right like you have a
guy with blood coming out of the side of his face that everyone hates raising his hand an american
flag over his head it's done Women holding him like it's done.
Yeah.
Also,
you guys got to talk about,
okay,
forget he's a president for a second.
Just his human reaction to that moment was not,
let me just duck and try to crawl off the stage to get to safety.
The dude stood up, went back to the front of the stage
to address the crowd like that.
That's a wild reaction.
Not many people would have done that.
That either speaks to epic heroism or epic narcissism
or maybe a combination of both.
It's fine.
I think it's a blurred line.
No, I mean, the instincts are crazy.
Because you can't have a persona in that moment.
There's no faking that moment when you just literally got shot in the ear.
Unless it was rigged.
Unless it was staged.
It was staged.
Rehearsed 150 yards.
You see on the teleprompter it says fight, fight, fight.
Yeah.
I do wonder how quick like because like all that stuff
came out pretty quick which i think is due to social media as far as people saying that kind
of stuff like how how long did it take like when jfk was assassinated for people to be like
all right this this is kind of something but you know what i mean you know what's almost more scary
is watching the crowd behind i mean actually
grant's hot take first 10 minutes was like non-lethal bullet this is some type of like
showmanship not saying that like either side's putting it on but like because i watched behind
and like yeah like there's the guy with the hat, and he kind of crouches down. But no one does anything.
If I hear a shot, see the president hit the deck,
I'm in the prone, crawling offstage.
And what does the American public do?
They pull out their phones. Oh, man.
Like, what is happening?
Although, apparently, the rifle the guy's using was suppressed.
So that always kind of like...
So that then makes it a little more different as far as the audio signature.
So you're kind of like, where did that come from?
You're kind of like, where do I look?
Where do I run?
Where do I duck?
So I think that...
People probably didn't know what it was.
They heard that.
They're probably like, what was that? Yeah. They're probably someone like was that real like is this like what was that what i
yeah there's just like this like disbelief probably that just like hits you like some
of those people and then you're like oh okay yeah this okay i know what this is now oh shit
so i was bowling i was bowling where were you i was working at my house at my apartment you're
in your apartment where were you jeff uh i was just at home and like caught like uh you know one of these kind of like news instagram
pages and like something like posted and it was like you know seven minutes ago and i was like oh
oh this just happened and like you know then you know just kept refreshing that page and that's
what was interesting i thought was like how, like the story kind of unfolded because of social media,
vice like.
It's like an instant.
Like,
you know,
Kennedy assassination.
It was,
it was broadcast on TV,
but you know,
they like cut away from it probably immediately.
And then,
you know,
you're trying to just like sit in there,
like what just happened?
Like,
is he alive?
Like,
what are the updates waiting for
that like nightly news update and then like the newspaper the next morning to kind of like tell
you what's going on i had to tell you what happened it's probably still didn't know much
yeah well it's also good and bad because something like that happens you know first 20 minutes no one
knows what's happening right and if you can get like 100 news updates in those first
20 minutes you don't even know what you're reading yeah like no one actually knows anything I'm I
mean to be I was still refreshing yeah reading all of them but like you don't know it's true
yeah but you have no clue like it could have been anything so interesting thing with that and like
social media playing a role uh my friends Rob and Roz that live in London I'm watching
it and I'm texting
with my dad and I'm starting
and I actually sent it to like the Marines in my
battery like my leadership like
hey if you're not paying attention like
this is happening so a couple people
replied there and then I'm just kind of glued to the
TV and then
I talked to my friends from London on
WhatsApp and they're like oh my gosh I can't believe that Trump was shot.
And so like we start going back and forth and then he's like,
wow,
there's an eyewitness or account.
They were watching him,
the shooter on the roof for 30 minutes.
And I'm like,
what?
And I'm like,
X refresh,
refresh,
drudge report,
CNN,
Fox news.
I'm not seeing this anywhere.
And so then he sends me the video
and it's him in his house, like my friend filming his TV. And what it was, was the first guy to grab
that redheaded guy that like was like, yep, we saw him. We've all seen it now. The first reporter
that got to him was BBC and they were live broadcasting. So they're in London watching it.
And before like everyone's
able to then download it and tweet it and then share it um because i actually i like was texting
my dad i was like yeah apparently they've been like watching the shooter on the roof for 30
minutes he's like how do you know this i was like i'm watching the guy from bbc he's like where
and so i had like my friend had sent me like a-minute file, which I sent over. Anyway, yesterday when they were lifting with me,
I was like, you know,
I watched the first minute of that video,
and then I just sent it to my dad.
And knowing you, you in the middle popped up
some inappropriate, explicit image
and been like, gotcha, just kidding.
And I was like, but I trusted you.
He was like, your nation was in crisis.
I couldn't have done it at that time.
At that time.
Yeah.
I mean, so I'm as big a conspiracy theorist as, you know, the average Twitter user.
Nah, you think we landed on the moon.
I don't know.
Everybody gathered around the TV to watch the other TV studio.
But it seems no one knows anything. Right. But my just feelings is it
seems like more just incompetence, like a like a bad, badly planned day than some vast conspiracy.
But I don't know if you guys disagree with me. No, I think that there's definitely something.
I mean, you look at that, just like the layout of the buildings and where like the podium was and you're like huh not i don't have any sort of training in this but like
that building should have someone on it like the average call of duty player would have been like
i think there's also right there the like you know there's kind of the secret service probably
working with other government like agencies working with local police force.
And there's not a lot of interoperability
between those two.
So there's kind of these siloed information flows.
They're not on same radio frequencies.
So even if they did tell the police about them,
the police can't then hop on the radio
and talk to Secret Service or give them a phone call.
It's getting a telephone.
So I think there's
just like a not enough like cross-talk and interoperability I mean we run into this even
with the military like trying to talk to the army's radios like oh can't do it because we've
got Marine Corps radios and it's just like what are we doing yeah not to cut Trey off before he
answers but I mean I when everyone's asked me about that, I said, one, you're overestimated.
Like before the right wing conspiracy theorists say, like, this is because women are in the secret service.
And this is because this this is because that I'm like, hey, first of all, you are overestimating the ability of a bureaucratic system to effectively accomplish a mission.
And I'm in a bureaucratic system that is supposed to do it,
but I've been in it for a while. You are overestimating our ability. Second, if you've
never read the Camp Bastion report from when 13 terrorists went up and blew up nine Harriers with
grenades and killed Marines, what was the issue? The exact thing Jeff's saying. saying well we have the Georgian National Guard over here
and then this part intersects with BLT or not BLT RCT 7 and this part intersects
with this thing and it's like all these inner units and they're all like
operating independently and that's why when I watch the things like we were
telling the cops I'm like of course you were telling the top cops but like did
the cops get the information to course you were telling the top cops but like did the cops get the
information to the secret service who then had the counter sniper like there's like that and that is
really hard to do i mean when i worked in uh as an advance rep for campaign rallies in 08
i remember going in setting up this event loveland ohio and kid rock was coming and all this stuff
and like you take like this random town and all of a sudden,
it's just flooded with people. And the guys I was going with, like, hey, how do we take a photo of
the candidate to make sure it looks like there's people here? That was my job to think of the
backdrop and how things looked. But they were thinking from a security standpoint. And that's
all I thought of when I watched the story is I'm like that's actually really hard to do like no
one's been in this area at the same time like that building is so close dude it seems like
it's like what we zero that's what you zero your rifle on right i know how close it was it was 150
yards this was their same about about 150 i mean yeah i mean you guys know a lot
more about this than me but so i was just wondering like it's probably hard because
it sounds like the main issue maybe not the main but a big issue was hey maybe that roof shouldn't
have been accessible in the first place or maybe there should have been some sort of barrier but
now that it's not and now we're in the situation
and now you see a random person,
looks like a person on this roof over here.
How do you, now in that moment,
you're talking to all these different people.
How do you know that's not like a kid
that like wants to see Trump
and just like climbed a ladder that he found
and like pops his head over?
Like, am I about to shoot an innocent kid
or is this an assassin?
Think of the counter sniper
right like i mean i shooting high mars during roe 14.1 under obama hostile act hostile intent
what do you want to be the last guy that thinks he's looking at a mortar tube and blows up a family
that has huge political you know repercussions yeah, I mean, what a mess.
But actually, and then we can transition maybe with this,
Pomp, who used to work for, I think actually posted the most,
he probably just ripped it and reposted it,
but the most interesting video I've seen,
it's an overlay of Trump's head from the top,
and it shows his head and ears, but's like a like a graph like a medical image
and it's and it's queued up to what trump was saying but it's in slow motion and then it has
the bullet coming in so it's like a i don't know what you call a graphical representation or
something and as the words are coming and he turns his head so it like shows like where the bullet
was going and then like this slight head turn and it hits the ear.
And yeah,
it's crazy.
They took the video and then they're like,
use some software to map out his head to make like a 3d rendering of his head
and space based on the boy.
And then it shows you like a bird bird's eye view of the top of his head and
the different angles of the bullet.
And it's like,
that was going,
that bullet was going straight to the back of his brainstem.
Crazy.
And then to end with lockers in the camera room, Jeff,
what's the movie with Al Pacino about
this is a game of inches?
Any Given Sunday.
Any Given Sunday.
Any Given Sunday.
So someone took Any Given Sunday
and like tied it up, the whole thing.
A game of?
Oh, man. It is. I don't care what's on the internet
yeah if you watch that video you're like oh man what about what it's a game of inches baby
gosh the inches we need are all around all right what a great my mom's still listening. Next slide. What a great quote.
Trey,
a little thing you posted.
This is just completely
jumping gears or switching gears.
Trey, you posted
should officers
get medals? This is talking
military stuff.
Do you have a take on this?
I have an opinion, man. I, military question. Do you have a take on this? Or you want to know our opinions?
I have an opinion, man.
I'd opinion.
Well, first of all,
come from an officer
with like two medals, right?
Two Marines, two medals.
Dan Daly, Spendley Butler.
There you go, man.
But I don't know, man.
I'm kind of,
I don't know,
just writing.
I come from the guy
who had to like write his own name as he was getting out,
which I thought was silly,
but I'm kind of against officers getting medals.
Like personal awards or.
Yeah.
To me,
man,
I think that's something that like,
I think as an officer,
like you're a servant leader,
right?
That's,
that's the way I,
that's the way I kind of look at it.
Oh man. And so like you're taking care, you're taking care of your right? That's the way I kind of look at it. Oh, man.
And so you're taking care of your Marines.
You're making sure that they're squared away.
When they do something, you highlight them.
It's not your achievement.
It's your Marines' achievement, right?
Can I ask a dumb question?
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
This is a dumb civilian question.
Who else would get them?
Enlisted.
Oh, enlisted. Okay, I didn't know.'s like so officer you're commissioned you have a college degree you start a second lieutenant work up through
the general ranks enlisted you can join at 18 okay yeah so he's basically saying the role of
the officer is a servant leader yeah so like it's not about you therefore why would you show your
oh then that's my other question would
be like what are the medals for then because i would think oh metal like you've done a really
good job and risen up the ranks like wouldn't an offer to get a medal or but these medals mean
different things i mean they can mean a lot of different things yeah it's kind of like you know
it can be hey you went did a training exercise and this guy like crushed it he was doing three
people's job because he was you know you were short crushed it he was doing three people's job because he was you
know you were short people and he did these three people's jobs and one of them was like
two ranks above his right okay hey that guy's getting a medal because he just did an outstanding
job for this you know maybe like two week exercise and there's also ones where it's like, Trey had been a lieutenant at an artillery battalion
for three years, did great work.
So usually it's like an end of tour award that kind of like,
hey, you did a great job here.
Thanks for everything you did.
Here is your kind of personal award
to kind of cap off your time here.
So those are kind of like the two different flavors you'll see of them.
It's kind of like impact and then something that's like, hey,
your time at this unit or in the Marine Corps has come to an end.
We want to recognize like you doing a great job. So here's a medal.
And there's like a combat side that could be elevated to it.
There's also like levels to them.
And then about the purple heart. That's like injured, right? So then there's also like levels to them about the purple heart that's like that's
like injured right so then there's a middle of honor right yeah so like that's what everyone
hears about the top stuff but it might be like so a lower level i mean i say lower level uh
a war that has to be signed off by a lieutenant colonel it's called a navy and marine corps
achievement medal it's called a nam for short so it's like a little green and white one but if you're in combat and maybe i don't know i save your life i might get a nam with a v
meaning with valor right and so there's like levels to i mean the award system
i i think trey what i would say is like i tend think, I actually think the hope would be that everyone thought like you think,
right. But then there's definitely,
there's definitely been times like, and not just in combat,
but where like officers have like done things that have been, you know,
I say heroic if it's in combat or heroic if it's a garrison.
And so, no, I'm, so i'm kind of yeah i mean i like
that's why what do we not get we don't get the good good conduct medal because they expect
officers to have good conduct and so really my question would be like where is the level of
uh good conduct plus good performance expected for an officer and then at some point there's
something higher.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
And it's even more blurry in the reserves.
You know, I got an eight-year guy leaving now as a staff sergeant.
He's never deployed.
He's been ready to deploy.
The unit hasn't deployed.
He's awesome.
He's like one of our heavy hitters.
His business has taken off.
He's getting out.
He's a staff sergeant.
And I'm like yeah we gotta give
this marine a damn and you know people could be like oh yeah but i mean what has he done
780s annual training 714 day or whatever like people could say and like the awards system is
just like i got a lot of great i don't i don't actually know how you fix it um like how you
how you make it better but i
just think that officers definitely shouldn't be hunting them no which i don't think that most of
them are right but um but at the same time i've seen a lot of good off like because you say you
wrote your own awards and to for for for the people listening you didn't write your own award
because you said hey i want this you wrote your own award. Cause you said, Hey, I want this.
You wrote your own award because the Lieutenant Colonel at the battalion was
like,
Hey,
this guy was really good.
Make sure he gets a NAM.
And then the major over you was like,
Hey,
I just got here three months ago.
I don't really know what you did.
Tell me what you've done for the last,
right?
Like,
that's what you mean by this.
You captured what you did.
It's not like,
Oh,
I want my own award.
And so that's where it just, yeah.
Like I said, which is, I get the situation of what it was.
Like new major came in, I had to write my own.
So I was right.
You just feel, yeah, you just feel dirty doing it.
Like, oh, look how great I am.
Yeah, and then I did this and then I did this.
Yeah, it's terrible.
Trey, you'll like this though.
This is one of my favorite takes on that.
And this is like staff NCOs and officers.
So you're kind of like more senior enlisted and officers.
I heard this take from Master Sergeant Ernie Corrado.
And he's like, you know what?
Ooh, Corrado.
He's like, staff NCOs and officers, we don't need personal awards.
Our award comes on the 1st and the 15th of the month.
And he's referring to your paycheck like
he's like okay we get paid pretty well so like that's your thank you is like yep here's your
here's your nice paycheck on the first of the month and the 15th of the month give the awards
to the lower listed guys let them like celebrate and i was like great hot take from top at the
same time he'd look a major in the face and be like, I worked really hard.
Where's my award, sir?
Yeah.
It's always the officer's fault.
No, I don't mean that as Corrado.
I just mean in general, right?
Oh, yeah.
You'll have a conversation with a senior enlisted,
and they'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, sir.
I just finished four years here.
Where's my whatever?
Dude, yeah.
And all the little award yeah really grinds my gears
there's like all these like little like rules that like aren't actually like written anywhere
but they're like well you can't give him that award because you know he's only like a sergeant
or he's a corporal or like you can't give him an impact navy comm like he didn't save anyone's life
and it's like what like where is that like where is that rule like written they're like you know this is just like an unwritten rule and you're like you know why i like the fact that we're
arguing that it's broken is because it means that we are not in a large-scale world war conflict
because when people are dying the award system is fixed it's like no i saw that guy die give him
this award yeah this guy said like so I like that it's broken.
But no, I know.
Yeah, it's a very it's a great garrison discussion for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it so you're saying that if you feel that some people are maybe getting awards that shouldn't and some people aren't getting awards that should.
My philosophy.
And like I said, it's it's a hot take.
that should definitely my philosophy and like I said it's it's a hot take I don't the I asked the question is mainly because I'm like my philosophy is I think officers should be giving
their Marines awards like I think that's your job is to serve them and I like I said I don't think
officers need awards like Jeff said they get paid very well like I think that's an award enough
itself and then I don't know that was just it was kind of a hot take as far as doing that. No, it's good.
I love it.
To his point, there's been a lot of great officers
who've done a lot of brave things in combat
who 100% deserve that.
No, I know you think that too.
That's why I just think it's a really confusing thing to do.
I saw militaries around the world that have that policy.
Officers don't get awards.
Only in those that do.
Can you name any countries off the top of your head?
For some reason, I don't know why, I felt england was one okay france i could but i could
see that yeah i feel like prince harry's got some awards no one looked that up yeah yeah no no no
he's not a prince anymore is he yeah no he's not he's just harry now i feel like we gotta move into
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Dad gum.
Dad gum.
That's the first time I've heard that.
He did a really good job.
He did a great job.
He smoked it.
He should get an award.
He was most prepared.
He should get an award.
He should get an award.
Oh, let's write him up for an OBSM.
Oh, my God.
Could we write him up for one in our system, Jeff?
Can you write up an air...
Could we write him up for an outstanding
volunteer service medal about
how he educated a
Marine audience that reached over
50 states and worldwide?
We have listeners in other countries
on how to be in shape
and fitness. I think we could write
him up for that.
Is Trey okay with it? Is Trey okay with it?
Is Trey okay with it?
Is he an officer?
He's a captain.
It's a volunteer service.
It's a volunteer.
Actually, also,
Jeff, Trey wasn't here that episode.
That's true.
Lose a kid a vote.
That's true.
I'm going to look into that.
And then we can present it to him at the lift hard.
The lift hard.
What's that?
Oh,
tell me more.
Is that something you're preparing for?
Yeah,
I'm leaving.
And,
uh,
I'm leaving in 36 hours. How's your shoulder in the barn my shoulder's fine yeah it's in the barn my shoulder i oh okay so lift hard live easy too let me plug it if
you're listening to this it's friday that means i'm competing tomorrow i'm a bench press specialist
i don't have time to squat and deadlift i'm'm here to bench because as Huck Finn Barbell would say,
build the chest and do whatever to the rest.
And so I'm here for the chest.
No, but the Lift Hard, Live Easy Classic,
it's a mass dynamics podcast.
If you don't listen to it, it's a podcast about nothing.
If you thought we were too political today,
they're way less political than us.
They have a lot of hot takes. Jeff's wearing
the hat.
They often cover
sparkling waters and things of that sort, but
they run a powerlifting meet
in Aberdeen, South Dakota.
If you want to go, I will forewarn
you it's hard to get there.
You cannot book your ticket last minute. You need
to plan to get to Aberdeen, South Dakota,
but Friday night, there's a get-together at Tanner's house Saturday. The event's in a hockey arena.
This is the second year they're calling it part two. But it's a powerlifting competition put on
by XPC. I'm 90% sure that's correct. And Big Gino powerlifting is the one. Thanks, Jeff,
sure that's correct and big geno power lifting is the one thanks jeff is the one that is uh announcing it this year so that's exciting barefoot shoes will be there build fast formula
will be there we'll be there yeah strength will be there um and yeah so i'm gonna compete in the
bench press only i wasn't gonna compete because i'm going there to sell people stuff and meet
and greet and have a good time and hopefully record stuff for people that can't make it there. But I wanted to
compete and I realized that they had a bench only option. And I said, well, I don't have to throw
my whole day away. I can just put on my leotard for like, you know, an hour and warm up the bench
and my bench is moving good now. I'll do do that and then of course i messed up my shoulder
squatting and it's not it's not it's not serious it's it's a combination of things i had like all
my singles kind of planned out and then when i was in boston for the celtics bringing home banner 18
they called me they're like hey we want to bring home banner 18 can you come and i was like sure
no problem and then i went home and lifted with my uh cousin and he was trying to pr his bench he taught me into pr so i did i hit 380 which is awesome
and like i felt a little something in my shoulder and then squatting since then it's not bad but
it's definitely like i have not uh been benching very much and I haven't been pressing heavy. I did bench on Saturday three 50 for a single,
which moved just fine just to make sure like,
can I bench heavy?
Yeah.
And so I warmed up a lot and went and it's,
it's fine.
It's just annoying that it's like,
ah,
my bitch is moving.
Well,
I'll do a bench press competition.
It's only eight weeks from now.
And then it's like,
what hurts the shoulder that you used to bench?
Um,
but that's what it's like being a master's lifter.
Once you know,
I've crossed over into,
so 35,
yeah,
35.
You and Richard Simmons.
Yeah.
So we'll be over there.
So Connor and I will meet.
Oh,
I was supposed to call Connor.
Is there a way to call Connor?
Yeah.
Well,
now we're on Riverside.
I can't see them at zoom link.
You can send them
a riverside link yeah it's probably too late we'll just connor you're missed call him on the phone
and just hold it up that's right we'll see if that works where there's a will there's a way will he
be able to hear me yeah because you're talking about will i be able to hear him yeah because
just put on speakerphone all right here we go and take one ear off yeah all right you don't even need to see how this goes
ah connor is that you oh this is me oh am i live right now oh you're live Do you know what podcast you're on? This just has to be.
Is this the underpaid and overrated?
Close.
No.
Should I hang up now or are you going to do it right?
No, I'm just kidding.
I can do it right now.
No, they don't want my phone. He threatens him.
I'm not watching the Republican.
I don't know.
Sounds like he's watching politics.
What podcast are you on, Connor this is the sure yeah like close enough
yeah get it in post yeah we'll get we'll get it in post i'm sorry you can't hear um
trey and jeff laughing
but you got a good rise out of them just there i was a little worried you were gonna say it was
the starting shrink podcast and then joe rogan and then hit us so we're glad you hit us in number
three but uh can you tell us a little bit about your road to lift hard live easy classic part two
yeah so training's been great especially when i decided I'm not going to compete I just took all the burden
off of training so training's been
actually pretty pleasurable
as far as prep for getting
ready
it's not much different than
Arnold I just have to time things
to where I arrive at the
scene after Grant
by a few hours and he'll have everything set
up and it should be pretty smooth sailing from there arrive at the scene after grant by a few hours and he'll have everything set up classic and
it should be pretty smooth sailing from there yeah i can go do it i can do a coffee run for
everybody just trying to think of the things i could offer well so you're uh you're what we'd
call a veteran this isn't your first rodeo so to speak um if you've never been to the lift hard live easy you know what would
you well how would you summarize it for folks it is i mean yeah i mean you can't you cannot be more
experienced than i am there's only been two of them there's only been one of them i feel like
i'm already there this is kind of already started you get to you get flying to the big city of sioux
falls and then you gotta head
what is it about three and a half hour drive to Aberdeen and it's just a the slice of life of
hanging out in Aberdeen is great it's a little shocking at first um it's it's fantastic the
massonomics guys set up a whole map for you when you get there you know points of interest where to
go uh we pretty much knocked all those things you got taco johns you definitely got to go see the
massonomics billboards that are promoting event the stranko billboard is kind of uh
premiering this year so excited to go see that on the flip side of the massonomics one
um gosh it's rock the rock kind of like it's a tiny micro slice of the Arnold as far as attendance,
but the bonds and connections there.
Only the cool people.
Or I would have to say a lot stronger than at the Arnold.
It is such a, it's such a niche, cool lifting club.
It's not a cult.
Trey says it's only the cool people.
It's, it's only the cool people.
Trey, you're invited.
I'm sure you were invited.
You can get a flight out to Sioux Falls or Rapid City. I highly recommend it. people it's it's only the cool people trey you're invited i'm sure you were invited you can comment
you can get a flight out to sioux falls or rapid city i highly recommend it and uh it's everyone's
like whether you've met them or not you say hi they've got a massonomic shirt or they got a
strength of shirt on and everyone's like best friends whether you've met someone or not so you
made some uh special apparel for this year do you you want to tell the folks what it is and why?
Yeah, yeah.
So Tommy does the graphic designing, right?
So he came up with a pretty cool logo this year.
It's a hockey mask, and it's an homage to the Friday the 13th series,
which, as you know, Grant, you're a movie guy that's had probably
12 sequels i didn't know it's a prequel to freaky friday they took the classic like friday 13th logo
with the hockey mask the old school hockey mask with the knife going through the eye they replaced
the knife with a barbell they added a cool double beer helmet on the thing and so that's a pretty
cool that's a pretty cool thing so I saw that and I go
wow you know hockey masks are easy
to come by so when I jumped on Amazon I made
a custom strength coat
hockey mask
it'll be the only thing we're wearing that's not made
in the USA it's actually really hard
to find a
plastic
Halloween hockey mask that's made in the USA
that might be something we can look into for next year.
Put it on a cast iron.
So yeah,
we'll be,
we'll be repping those.
I got a couple of masks,
you know,
look for the,
look for the guy in the hockey mask.
I think a lot of people have hockey masks.
I think a lot of people are rolling with that,
that idea.
I thought he started it.
And then I jumped on Instagram and saw a reel with like 40 people already
doing it,
but you know,
still be fun.
All right.
But yeah,
I'm looking forward to it.
Looking forward to getting some good Aberdeen cuisine.
I'm excited for the zoo.
I'm excited for the circus.
That's kind of the,
it's the zoo,
the circus pounders.
I think those are the spots.
So we're kind of doing a reverse trip though this year.
We're not going into Sioux Falls.
Sure.
We're going to Rapid City.
And what do you have you done any research on Deadwood, Mount Rushmore, the Black Hills?
I have not.
Other than I know.
I mean, we did some research last year when we realized that Sioux Falls is still like, well,
South Dakota is like seven hours from South Dakota.
I think we thought everything was going to be within reach.
And we found out it was like everything's some,
the other points of interest are about six, seven hours away.
So we're flying to Rapid City.
I know Rushmore's there.
Got to see it.
Grant, if you could get a plate, if we can get a plate up there,
if we get a photo op with,
uh,
with the faces,
that would be cool.
Is it a hike?
Is D,
does D know?
It's not a hike,
right?
You can,
you can,
you can drive up to it.
You can drive up to it.
Yeah.
Just making sure we're not like,
Hey D,
let's,
let's take the hike up to the faces.
I don't want to.
Yeah.
If there's one thing,
if there's one thing I like doing,
it's making a six month pregnant woman move a lot of to. Yeah, if there's one thing. Once you're pregnant-wise. If there's one thing I like doing, it's making a six-month pregnant woman move a lot of distance.
Make her carry the weight.
I'll kind of put you on the spot here because we can all hear you, but you can't hear them because this is the last-minute deal.
But we've been talking about attempted or successful assassination attempts.
or successful assassination attempts?
And since we're going to Mount Rushmore,
can you give us your Mount Rushmore of presidents that have either been assassinated
or attempted assassinations?
In no particular order.
In no particular order, and it means nothing,
but I'm just curious if you can come up with four.
Well, Trump, Reagan, Kennedy,
I mean, attempted for Reagan, Kennedy. I'll be attempted for Reagan.
Kennedy successful, in case you didn't hear.
What?
You got a big laugh out of Trey.
I mean, you know, all listeners.
Can I phone a friend?
Hey, Dad.
Dad.
I'm at my dad's place. He's barbecuing. He's trying to figure out the Trey Garoppolo. Hold on. He's going to know this. You can't think of a friend? Hey, Dad. Dad. I'm at my dad's place.
He's barbecuing.
He's trying to figure out the trigger app.
Hold on.
He's going to know this.
You can't think of a fourth?
Oh, Lincoln.
Yeah.
There we go.
I need to see this play like a whole.
I need a hole in my head, right?
Well, we'd keep you on longer, but since you can't hear them, you talk to me on the phone all the time.
But looking forward to seeing you.
It's always fun.
I'll hear them on the flight to Rapid City when I'm listening to the podcast.
Yeah, there you go.
Well, we'll see you in two days.
Tell him to quit ignoring my phone calls.
Wow.
Yeah, quit ignoring Trey's phone calls, he says.
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All right, bye guys.
Bye, Connor.
You know, that wasn't the best, that wasn't the worst,
but I could tell that he really tried.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, the agent was there.
Yeah.
Big Poppy's son got drafted by the red sox oh poppy yeah um uh it starts with the d d'angelo small
poppy d'angelo poppy d'angelo poppy oh yeah still one of my favorite uh espn commercials
when they were good
was when David Ortiz and Jorge Posada
sitting in the conference room or something like that.
Jorge Posada has a brand new Yankees hat.
David Ortiz is like,
hey, what's going on with this hat?
It looks too new.
I'm a catcher.
I don't wear it.
And then David Ortiz puts on the Yankees hat
and is flexing the brim and stuff like that. I'm a catcher. I don't wear it. And then David Ortiz like puts on like the Yankees hat and it's like
flexing the brim and stuff like that.
And then Wally,
the like green mascot for the,
for the Red Sox.
Like,
Hey Wally,
it's not what you think.
It's great.
It's a great moment.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
You should Google it.
I think at this point we've moved into save rounds and alibis.
Save rounds?
I thought you were moving some plates over the weekend, my man.
Yeah, I was.
Dude, we were going back and forth at like 10.45 p.m. or something on Saturday.
Just what meme is next?
Yeah.
Yeah, we sold some plates.
We did a sale. You i i i saw it happen
jordy and i started joking of what's the trump meme and we both were like no it's too soon you
can't make a meme and then like three hours later everyone was selling t-shirts made in china i was
about to say you lost the internet yeah everyone was buying them and i
just thought you know what i make an american-made product and it happens to have the number 45
and regardless of your politics if you're fired up right now uh we're running a sale and yeah so
we sold some 45s we got a little bit of hate only in the Instagram comments. Each one of those we looked up,
not our customers.
But I will say it was a,
it's a really good weekend of sales.
A lot of people wanted to buy.
And you know,
it's funny,
you know,
so I could,
I could talk about this just from the strength code business perspective,
but it's interesting to me,
the amount of people that we're talking about like when people get really emotionally charged
it's like one of the things they want to do is like do something and um and so i just thought
hey you know um i make an american made plate it supports american jobs it. It's on sale. Come and take it.
And they took it.
They took it.
I feel like Trump would approve of that.
He'd be on board.
He'd be like, oh, yeah.
He's actually probably mad that those T-shirts being made
aren't by his campaign.
What the hell?
Why are we so slow to market?
He's like, why aren't the plates gold with my face on them?
Oh, yeah.
We should have him design the plate.
A little collaboration.
Yeah, we sold some plates.
Co-lab.
But now you just join the ranks of possible conspiracy theories
if they're like, oh, this was all Strength Co. orchestrated
so he could sell the plates.
This was orchestrated by the Strength Co.
45s, President number 45.
The coincidences are just adding up.
Grant.
And then he talked about the Mount Rushmore
of assassination attempts.
I hear he's there next week.
Do we have a second shooter?
That's the title of the episode.
I'm kind of worried about this weekend
to be honest.
How's the security in Aberdeen?
Man,
I got my six month pregnant wife,
Connor,
and I might have to bring my cat Wayland.
Good.
What security in Aberdeen?
It's,
it's too far.
Yeah.
There's no security.
There's also no assassins.
Cause they're like,
I couldn't get there.
I couldn't get to Aberdeen.
The flight schedule was too complicated.'re still traveling there it really it really is though you know like
living in california for 12 years like i live i'm from buford south carolina and i would always
complain like going home to buford is so hard it's really not not. You connect in Atlanta or Charlotte or you fly to
Atlanta or Charlotte and then you have a four to five hour commute. And then you fly to Savannah
or Charleston. You have like an hour and 20. It's not like super crazy. I remember last year when
they first launched this thing, I'm like, dude, I'm there. And like two months went by and I went
to book travels like, wait, I have to fly. I have to connect to fly to someone there and then drive three hours what
is this like where do you live and then i went there and i realized that oh it's like a storybook
land it's amazing it's still far geez it's so far jeremy's in wyoming this week fly fishing
which we'll go quick shout out damn fly fishing guide hairs fly fishing or hairs air fly fishing
john connor's going to be on the show next week so it's gonna be a heavy fishing episode
but my brother is fly fishing in wyoming right now and you know he lifts with us on our live zoom
lifts so if you're looking for coaching go to strength.co click the media page scroll on the
bottom click coaching if you want to come on live a of days a week with me and a bunch of like-minded lifters, you can do that. If you
want to join us on Slack, talk to Trey, talk to Jeff, talk to PJ. You want to talk about you
couldn't get news for what was happening on Saturday. You could get news there. You want
to talk about how you need to lose weight. Oh, there's people in the weight loss channel trying
to lose weight. You're talking about, Hey, I'm a novice or i'm getting back to lifting we can answer those questions but in any
event the lifters there all were like oh wyoming close to south dakota oh grant you and jeremy
you're both in that those states on the same weekend are you guys gonna hang out totally
and i was like absolutely not and they were like why not i was like because i can't even see mount
rushmore without making a
six and a half hour drive there's no way i'm going to wyoming uh even if the fishing's good
and i am still on the horns of a dilemma in terms of i kind of pack my fly fishing rod just in case
if in the uh black is there anything up there yeah the black hills where we're staying the
first night there's a bunch of streams but it's like we have 12 hours and you know i don't want to be like
d hang out with connor i'm gonna go fly fish yeah same time like what if you're like hiking up to
someone's grave and like there's a stream it's like look water what permits prevents me from
fishing i mean you know it's it's it's tough. So that's it.
That's honestly one of the tougher, toughest questions I've heard today.
So, yeah.
I don't think I can see rounds.
Chapter two.
Yeah.
Look, water.
What am I said?
Why can't I be baptized?
Yeah.
Anyway.
The unit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm named after him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Middle name. Philip. Tell us how named after him. Middle name, Phillip.
Tell us how you really feel, Jeff.
Any more say browns, alibis?
PJ?
I'm good.
Your chamber's empty.
Everyone's favorite part of the show takes longer than it needs to.
Gets half the information.
Okay.
But Trey, if you could.
Yeah. Yeah.
Wow.
Everyone, thank you for listening.
Good night.
What episode is this?
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