The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 32: Meet Placido Santos- Danaher Purple Belt, BJJ Fanatics Legend, American Patriot

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Join the Slack and Use code OKAY: https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ks Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Olympics 04:11 - Vertical Jump 07:08 - Bulking 19:02 - Jeff and Tres Join 20:41 - Olympics Update 25:33 - New Jack White 29:11 - Lifting & Parent Update 36:05 - Shooting 44:16 - Placido Santos 53:04 - Jiu Jitsu Belts 57:21 - Rising Popularity of Jiu Jitsu 01:03:23 - MMA 01:06:34 - Best Self-Defense Martial Art 01:09:41 - Balancing Lifting & Jiu Jitsu 01:23:49 - Running A Gym 01:42:29 - How To Find A Good Jiu Jitsu Gym 01:44:07 - Placido Is OKAY 01:51:20 - Final Thoughts

all right and welcome back to episode 032 of the okay podcast powered by the strength co i'm your host grant brogy coming to you live from the beautiful upstate of south carolina as hot as it's ever been i mean it's just it's scorching out there i avoided the outdoors yeah so did my wife if you're pregnant if you're six months pregnant and it's uh what was it a 92 it was more than i counted but it's a wet heat oh dude yeah not welcome to the side not to be confused with the dry heat it is hot we are broadcasting live kind of futuristic uh today is what is today my watch is upstairs it's august the second we're in a new month uh jack white's uh no name record dropped today for digital release yesterday it dropped in vinyl we tried very hard to get it in nashville as well as in london i had people in both places

trying to get it and it was just too difficult so we didn't get it on vinyl uh the limited release blue vinyl but we did get it pre-ordered because we're big jack white fans around here but yeah today's august 2nd you're going to be listening to this a week from today on august 9th somebody decided they want to get married messes with the whole schedule my dad uh yeah no it's all good uh so we're recording a few days early. We got a guest night going to be super cool. Um, we'll get to that in a minute. Uh, jujitsu. Yeah. Jujitsu BJJ for all you BJJ guys that usually turn it off when we start talking about, I don't know, whatever we start talking about. Stay tuned because we're gonna we're basically gonna talk to don john danaher basically basically dude he's huge same same yeah big big dude uh but yeah we're in the beautiful upstate of south carolina block heights 855-141 if you haven't figured out we

got pj here in studio what's up uh it's friday night the olympics are going on are they i haven't even watched um do you have been watching beach volleyball nah dude every four years every guy in x tweets best sport ever uh yeah that's what they do i've seen clips on x yeah yeah uh olympics going on simone simone bile simone biles won a bunch of golds uh remember when she quit that one time because she had like mental health issues back she did you see her one-liner against trump uh i love like black this is my black job yeah so like trump was like with the black reporters and said some things that were i don't know whatever but he said that she asked them like they were trying to like pigeonhole them,

hold them. And they said something about like black jobs. Yeah. And they're like, what's a black job? And he's like, it's any job, which I kind of think is fair. Like any job is any color's job. Yeah. But in any event, I did think like her comeback was really good. Oh, it was, it was a good zinger.

As they say, a zinger. Well, it was like, it was like on one hand, cause he was saying like, you know, I've done the best for black unemployment, black jobs, black, like whatever. And it was like on one hand, because he was saying like, I've done the best for black unemployment, black jobs, black whatever. And it's like on one hand, just in my soul, it does sound a little weird to hear black jobs. I do get like, that's a little weird. Yeah, that's weird.

On the other hand, we do say like black colleges. White collar. White collar. We say black unemployment. Yeah, we do. So it's like, I don't think it's crazy. I think people are just finding something to yell about. I just thought it was a good, I don't know her at all.

I just remember she quit. Yeah. I don't mean that as a knock, but I just mean that's like. I do a little bit. Yeah, sure. But the only reason I remember her name is because of that event. Oh, really? Yeah.

Like I said last week, I don't really follow that. I'm not anti-olympics yeah I just I just I don't know she's a phenom she's up there with like Michael Phelps level allegedly allegedly not in terms of height of her but just in terms of metals yeah although Kevin Durant said that he thinks she could dunk a basketball you know with those muscle fibers she might yeah and in the event I saw it and i was like that's good i bet her verticals like 30 inches or something yeah it's probably something really good yeah standing vertical jump sign of athleticism i've never measured mine i have and i can't remember what i am but

it's not good but it's not low iq it's like upper 20s she hit 30 no i didn't hit 30 i honestly don't even want to say because someone will be like um just say it was like 42 no i think it was upper 20s but i yeah we did it at a starting strength seminar one time we had this freak we had this girl come in she was like two percent body fat she was super fit she was super strong she had never lived it before whoa and rip to always gives the like standing vertical jump is that in the seminar well yeah in in the seminar he talks about like what is strength force production and then he like goes on about like how you know you can't teach in that you can't change you can only, yep. And he's like the best indicator for a natural athlete

is the standing vertical jump because you can't improve it. Like you either have it or you don't. And the best coaches and like there's like six caveats to the best coaches. It's the whole explosiveness conversation. Like all that is, you know, you can't teach it and people have it. And so in any event, they never do the standing vertical jump. And so one day I was just, I said to him, I was like, Rip, let's do the standing vertical jump at lunch.

Yeah. Like everyone breaks for lunch. Like we have a freak here. Yeah. So whatever it was, and I'm going to downplay it. Hopefully my standing vertical jump was higher. But she was 25. I 26 she was 26 i was 27 like i barely beat her she was very good and she's a female oh so that's really good for her really good yeah oh it was like whatever it was and it

might have been 22 23 i'm not like i'm not standing on uh any kind of false pretenses here. Whatever it was, I beat her by an inch. That's significant. Yeah, it was. That's like my press being five pounds better than Nova's. Yeah, exactly. That's a knock on me. Yeah. If you didn't listen to last week's podcast,

now it's aired. First Tenant Nova Ward from Scotland. Scotland. Scotland. Dual citizenship. Don't worry. she's still a marine uh artillery officer uh she talked about her training her fitness um and she's a freak if you want to get jacked she's more jacked than me you should call her you should yeah nova sky.com i

should buy that domain just in case she pops off. Yeah. I'll sell it to her later. Yeah. This will be a test if she listens to the next episode or she was just like, oh, this is my shot. But yeah, anyway, price of Bitcoin is $6,200. Whoa. What happened? It was like $65,000 like 10 minutes ago.

Well, everything's crashing right now. Everything's crashing. Yeah. You know, I got a random question today. I think this would be a good short little, you have one, a random question for me. You, you received a random question in a rare event. I actually received a random fitness question. Okay. Now I don't know just as much as you, why I was asked a fitness question, but I was old. I got not an old guy, but a guy I used to work with a while ago kind of when i was first starting doing video sure um miami nope this was actually in indiana oh it was way back

in the day church or something yeah and he saw he's seen that like i've been lifting weights when i was working with him i was probably 30 pounds skinnier and so he's seen like the whole transformation of me going from super skinny to just extremely normal. It's like almost a man. To nearly a male. And he asked me, he's like, hey man, random question. I got cast in a play to play Gaston in Beauty and the Beast.

Okay. And I'm trying to bulk up. Should I know who that is? He's the bad guy. Or not the bad guy, but one of the kind of bad guys. So he's the bad guy or not the bad guy but one of the so he's not the beast not the beast but he's like the big strong like gallant man that's trying to yeah so he's like but i want to bulk up for this role yeah you bulked up how did you do it and he was asking me that and you were like everyone the okay podcast thinks my bulk's not over i was like if you ask

them i'm still pre-bulk yeah Yeah. You're pre-bulk. I'm pre-bulk. You're just getting started. I'm just getting started. But 30 pounds plus is significant. And so I told him just a basic answer. I was like, I'm no expert, but this is what I did. What would you answer him with? Like, Hey, I'm just looking to bulk up for a role. I've got three and a half months. Okay. Does age matter? Does body fat matter? Uh, he's 40 years old. Body fat doesn't matter oh interesting so he just wants to look really big yeah he's i would say he's a very he's not fat he's not skinny just not not out of shape just a normal looking dad how tall is he six four

oh what's he way probably two if i had to guess two 20 30 he's skinny little thin yeah he's thin thin he's thin uh i don't know if i had a 6'4 guy 210 that needed to do a roll and get to 250 sure and his body fat didn't matter um at 40 i probably wouldn't put him on a gallon milk a day but i would put him on starting strength basic novice linear progression add weight and i would just tell him anytime that he starts to feel beat up eat more uh so generally people come to me and they're like hey i want to get stronger i don't want to gain weight because they're already overweight western society that tends to be how it goes but i would just say like hey if you want to gain 30 pounds 20 pounds whatever it um, food is the easiest recovery metric.

So start lifting, learn to do the lifts, add five pounds, add five pounds, probably have to add two and a half on your squat and your, or in your bench and your press pretty soon. But then the minute that you start to feel like, man, stuff hurts, I would just say increased caloric consumption and two glasses of whole milk yeah it could be whole milk it could be peanut butter it could be pizza like if he really doesn't care and that's the thing like if he's six four two twenty he's not fat right now we could definitely make him fat if we tried hard enough but like but like if he just increases caloric consumption do you know what he does for a workout right now? No, I think he probably does some light working out,

like goes to the gym. Okay, recreation. Yeah, and to put it in perspective, I haven't seen him shirtless in a long time, but I don't think he has abs. Do you usually see him shirtless? Not in a while. It's been a while.

Okay, it's been a while. I'm not a jiu-jitsu guy. Yeah, we'll get to that later. Yeah, I would just say use calories as the throttle and obviously he can do this intelligently like if you eat even rice like super glycemic carbohydrate you know high starch whatever easy to digest easy to digest though but like if you just kicked up your rice intake and your chicken intake when you started to feel fatigued it'd be great the problem is usually as people lift they're they don't plan and they go eat cheeseburgers but if i want to go to 220 to 250 i don't know gaston but his name's terry but he's playing a part no yeah of gaston oh okay yeah right beauty and the beast yeah so i mean

if i just needed to like look like whoa a big person just walked in i'd probably tell him not to worry about what he's eating yeah lift and and do it and because he's an actor you know he probably will have a role later to be i don't't know, Napoleon Dynamite. He'll only be super skinny. And he probably knows Gaston. He's got small legs, though. That's like Gaston not on starting strength. Right, right. Yeah, that's a small Gaston.

Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I think I'd just tell him squat, bench, deadlift. I mean, I love the overhead press, but squat bench deadlift with a caloric overload and adding weight. Not just surplus overload. Yeah. Yeah. Overload. Yeah.

Words mean things. Overload and adding weight each time. You will get bigger. Yeah. Like if you need to like look bigger, you will definitely get bigger. Um, if you tell me that like later down the road, not grants's problem. I'm just gonna be like, yeah, dude. Milk's not for everybody. I mean, it's for a lot of people, but like, yeah, I'd increase milk.

I think peanut butter is great. I think more eggs is great. Like full fat stuff that like your body can actually use to build muscle is good. Yeah. No, it's great. Gaston. Yeah. Gaston.

Before and after. He should. I'll Gaston. All right. Before and after he should, I'll tell him, just tell him before and after, before and after. Yeah, we need that. Um, let's see. We just recorded like three days ago. Uh, anything happened? Not much happened. Um, did my workout went well, actually felt like this was not like a uh i wouldn't call it easy but it wasn't like grinding me yeah yeah which is good it's a crunch time for me i'm two weeks out from a big reception party then traveling the next week and then getting married are you trying to like get in like super good shape before the wedding or do you consider yourself in super good shape i'm just like whatever will be will be, will be. Whatever will be, will be. Like you don't want to be burdened by what has been.

I want to not let what can be. I want to see. I'm not worried about seeing what can be unburdened by what has been. There you go. That's what I was looking for. Yes. Not to be unburdened by what could be. I'll be burdened by what has been.

Yeah. That's fine. What has been will be unburdened. Yes. No, it'll be burdened. Oh, yeah. It'll be burdened by what has been yeah that's fine what has been will be unburdened yes no it'll be burdened oh yeah it'll be burdened yeah i know i'm not i'm not trying to get shredded for my honeymoon not at all actually now i'm just worried about like not worried but like hey i need i need to fit in my suit oh yeah because you think you're too big or you think you're too small i just feel like i can't go much either direction okay okay. Okay. Yeah. You just had it fitted. I just had it fitted. What are we two weeks away?

Two weeks from tomorrow. Two, two weeks from, uh, no, three weeks from tomorrow. What's the date? No,

no, sorry. Two weeks from tomorrow. You got a registry. Yeah. What's the, what's the URL? The strength.co slash PJ.

We can redirect it there. It's just the strength.co slash store. Oh, slash store. Thanks. Yeah. But do just the strength.co slash store. Oh, thanks. Yeah. But do you have a registry? We do. Um, Kate's been in charge of that. She'll have to send you put in the show notes. Yeah. Yeah. If you like PJ and you want him to live forever and have the things he needs and get the 200 pounds, uh, look in the show notes, hop on his registry. Who knows? Maybe, maybe you can buy him a pair of 35s there you go uh you

never know toss me five dollars for a gallon of milk ah love it uh let's see oh can i make one more comment yeah i know i've played around with gain and weight before and bulking yeah i do think i'm trying to make comment for you make a comment yeah so i was on the spotify app today getting links and i was like oh people have been commenting on the show and i didn't realize so if you've been commenting the show thanks if you haven't commented on the show go to spotify go to youtube you gotta do it go to instagram comment on it we're gonna reply back because i replied to all five comments today every single one but someone was like and it was from like three months ago like i, I'm not listening to this podcast again until he's 200 pounds.

No way. And I was like, wow, we let that die a long time ago. We did. So people do care. People care. So maybe they'll be excited about this. And I'm not just saying this now because I've been a little like worried about the wedding and like, I don't want to get too much bulk. You don't want to look too much like a man.

Not too much like a man. Yeah, you're going to just ride the line. I'm going to be like a chubby Asian bunny, you know, if I get too much like a man yeah you're right just ride the line i'm gonna get like a be like a chubby asian bunny you know if i get too much but um i am thinking day after my honeymoon that is the single best time in my life to bulk to just get fat oh yeah it's it it'll never be a better time you locked her in locked her in and she's in and she told me she's told me multiple times she may be a little crazy for this and i think this is too far she said dude if you're 220 i think that's fine i think 242 242 242 you'd be a hell of a 242 is that a fake comment is that a joke or is that like an actual opinion uh it's not my actual okay i think 200

is your cap personally 200 you never even hit it what are you 185 186 yeah i think i if you had 200 if you had 200 you'll be a chubby asian bunny yep and then you'll have to like stay at 200 and manage it to where it looks good i think 200 is good but if your wife likes you 220 even better i'm thinking it doesn't matter what I think. I'm thinking I hit in the twos, at least get in there. Okay. 200 to 210, somewhere in there. I like it.

And I just see like, dude, I got to get a 500 pound deadlift. I got to get a 405 squat. If you're chasing numbers and you're going to compete in a strength co-singlet, I approve 220. Oh, really? Yeah. No, no, no. So here's the deal. Joking aside. No, no, no. So here's the deal. Joking aside, if you are competing and you're like, hey, I want to hit this number and this number matters to me and you're actually

going to train hard and hit the number. I'll get as big as I need to be and train as hard as I need to be. Do it. If you're missing one workout a week, but you're eating like you're missing none and you blow up to 210. And I'm not saying you, I'm saying like people that do this program, then like, I have a problem with that. Right. Because now it's like, well, you're using the excuse for eating for your training, but you're not doing your training. Right. But if you're doing your training and you're like, I want to deadlift 500 pounds and go to 220. I'll tell you this. I think you at 220 is miserable. I think I don't sleep apnea. I think I can't move. Your pants don't fit. You have to buy

strength coach shirts, extra large. Oh yeah. I'll be, I'm five, eight. So yeah, that's going to be big. That's big. Yeah. But if you're doing it for a reason, I have no problems with it. Yeah. My problem is people that eat like they're going to deadlift 500 pounds and then deadlift 330. Yeah. That's, I don't like that. That's an excuse. Yeah.

That's just like, I'm thinking doesn't matter how fat I get now. I'm going to have a home gym at that point. No better time in my life to do it. I think I, I get kind of fat and I get real strong. Yeah. There you go. And then you cut. And then you cut.

And we make a video. There we go. I'm just doing this for the Strength Co the strength go youtube i mean that's what it's all about um we put nova up there in her bikini with her abs and her biceps popping didn't seem like people like it so far no maybe not but they did with placido so hey i'm on board i actually just thought I didn't realize this. I'm on board to like do a before and after like experiment. We can do like a long-term play video. I love it. All right. I love it. All right. Sure. Let these guys in here. Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, well, yeah, let's just watch me on fire. they don't play that song in north america anymore oh sorry uh i was just singing a song Dude, that album's good. 032?

032. Episode 032 of the... Okay. Okay. Guidelines. Okay. Podcast powered by the Strength Co. We got the co-host on here. We got big Mr. Robert Gottlieb III,

Texas A&M grad, excited for his first year in this. I mean, no, sorry. I was thinking Texas. My bad. We have Jeff Bougie from Utah and we have PJ and we're recording on a Friday night because we have so many things to do with our life that we're like, let's do this. It's pretty sweet. It's pretty sweet.

It's pretty sweet. Pretty sweet. No, Fritz. Hey, hey, what do you say? And it turns out we don't have any friends. That's right. That's what they say. A little change of the lyrics there.

The original lyrics, yeah. Friday, August 2nd, 15 days from now, PJ will be married. Fair enough. Yeah, muzzle toff. The Olympics is going on. Halfway done.

We got a guest tonight. Actually, Trey, why don't you give us an Olympics update? It's like an amateur lifting update, but an amateur Olympics fan update. Have you won any medals yet? I have not. What's like an amateur lifting update, but an amateur Olympics fan update. Have you won any medals yet? I have not. What's your medal count? Track started

today, yesterday. I can't remember. That's a big track guy. When it comes to Summer Olympics, I like that probably the best, but I watched some dudes today. It was the third medal in the 10K the US has ever won. And the first one since like 1959, he got a bronze.

So that was pretty cool. I thought you were going to say you watched some dude beat a woman in boxing, but then you just went a different way with it. Did they figure out, is he, is it a woman? Oh yeah, there was some controversy with that. A lot. There was a lot. So I haven't been watching the Olympics and like my feed just filled up with that. A lot. There was a lot. So I haven't been watching the Olympics,

and my feed just filled up with that. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. I got both sides of it. Apparently, the chromosomes is XY. Does that mean he's a man? I don't know. That's the male pattern chromosome.

Okay. Sorry. Homeschooled over here. Homeschooled. You don't know your own chromosomes? You don't check them every morning? I'm always popping the hood, checking my chromosomes, making sure I still got

them all. Trying to find out when I'm Delta. Yeah, XY is the male. XX is going to be your daughter. If you throw an extra one in there, that's where you get a little problem. XYY. That's a problem.

Yeah, anyway, people were fired up about that. Yeah, I don't know. It makes sense. I didn't watch that. I didn't watch it either. I just watched... Not much of a boxing person, so yeah. There's a rapper that I boast likes.

I'm forgetting his name. And he tweeted, Bro just committed domestic violence and got a medal for it. And I was like, wow, that's a tweet. It's pretty good. It's a post. It's X these days.

It's a post. I will say it was like the edge cases of edge cases because if you are XY, but you have some disorder that makes you like basically appear and kind of develop a little bit like female i'm like i don't know what to do with that yeah there's the rules were not prepared for this or the devil's advocate here or the girl just got beat up so badly she just goes that's a dude it has to be maybe that's what it was it's gotta be yes smoked so

yeah she was done actually props to her for quitting yeah wow like just no i actually as a coach is that what you tell your uh so yeah yeah she was she was like great job on that fifth rep uh fifth rep is different because that means you got the first four. She got hit by a dude and was like, yeah, I'm out. I'm out. You don't tell her to grind it out? You unrack the bar and you're like, nah. Yeah, I'm not going to get my fives back.

That's like if you put 100 pounds over your PR on your back and you walk it out, you go, nah, dude, this ain't happening. Track starts. Track started. Yeah, track. Back no, dude, this ain't happening. Track starts. Track started. Yeah, track. Back to track. Back to track. And I'm excited.

Do you remember what? Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to say roughly that 10K time was that got the bronze. Like what time domain are we talking about? Olympic 10K? Dude, it was low 20s. I can't remember.

Low 20s. Is that Zulu time? Yeah. low 20s i can't remember is that is that zulu time yeah okay okay jeff got my joke uh i mean what's a five no no way what's a five gotta be No, no way. What's a 5k? A 5k that Jeff and I run. Yeah, a 5k that Jeff and I run is what? 25 minutes? Oh, no. We're like 15 minutes, dude.

We're so fast. Oh, yeah. No, I think that's a good number. No, yeah. I'm like 22-ish. Min's 10,000 meter final. 10,000 meters. 10,000 meters. Yeah, that's 10,000 meter final. 10,000. 10,000 meters.

Yeah. That's 10 K. Sorry. Math for Marines in public. He. 10 clicks. 10 clicks. 10 clicks.

10 click run. So the American third place ran at 2643. Okay. That's booking it. Yo. I bet it was 200 pounds dude he was surprisingly yeah he was wearing a strength coach shirt yeah yeah yeah i saw that yeah i think he was a mustache squat t it was a squat t yeah i was wearing a mustache the back of his t said okay yeah yeah he was singing jack white he was itty bitty. He was itty bitty.

He had AirPods in listening to the podcast. One guy did have a Garmin, and he started his Garmin. I love it. Can we talk about a Jack White album for a minute? Dude, it's good. You got to. Is it a new one? It's good, and I'm not...

Yeah, No Name came out today on digital. So Jeff and I tried to get it on vinyl yesterday I actually tried to get my London friends to get at me for me over there to same story third man records lines around the block I did you didn't you know anything about it right now I didn't have a list to you today the vinyl got released at like select independent record stores and so i like checked the map to see like all right what's close to me and there was one down in provo utah it's like an hour away but so i was like all right that's yeah i bought it and they were like we hope to ship by the end of

september was the third man records or something and they said something also like if you ordered anything else then it'll just ship when this ships. And I just thought that was so funny because we have an email when people buy like a 465 pound set. And we're like, hey, in order to keep shipping costs low, we ship from multiple warehouses. Your plates may arrive on different days. Please give it three to five days before emailing customer service. No one's like, I got 645s and 125. Where's the rest of my plates?

I'm like, I didn't email Jack White. I just took him at his word. I saw him riding in that 15 passenger van. That guy's not lying to me. Did you buy an expensive one on duty that one time yeah that's good i bought um it's red it has thing about my doorbell it was limited release

it was about i'll just say it you know usually i don't disclose it was about 200 bucks on ebay i was in a bidding war i bet it hasn't depreciated dev Devils. Get Behind Me, Satan. See? Jeff just speaks Grant so fluently. I said devil. He's like, get behind me, Satan. Yeah. Get Behind Me, Satan.

Great album, and I play it because I'm the kind of guy that's like, if I owned a Civil War musket, I'd shoot it. If I owned Get Behind Me, Satan, I'm the kind of guy that's like, if I owned a Civil War musket, I'd shoot it. If I owned Get Behind Me Satan, I'm playing it. I'm not like a collector's item. I play that thing. And yeah, good album.

So I really wanted the blue one. Didn't get it. I ordered the release today. I'm about... I think I've heard all songs by now. But I'm about five songs deep into the album of actually like listening to the words and it's like this is good also jack white's going religious a little bit he's got that bless up song he's singing about the walls of Jericho. Oh, man.

Yeah, he's turning it on. I just looked up the value of Get Behind Me Sing, limited edition. How much? $225. That's what I'm saying. You can't afford not to. Oh, my gosh. Go to the moon, man.

Trey was about to just drop a $3 million. We need a Jack White clock. We need a Jack White clock. We need a Jack White clock. Yeah. Jack White clock. Oh my gosh. That would be good. $30 million.

$30 million? Yeah. Did you know that if you hide your album inside a leather couch, it increases the value by 300%? Facts. Facts. If you don't get that joke, go back and listen to episode two of the OK Podcast.

Yeah, OK. Olympics update. Trey, what about lifting update? OK. Short and sweet, baby. Hadn't happened? Not yet, man. We had a busy couple days so okay not a shame game was just curious so it's been a while a week uh let me see last one i got in was on tuesday today's friday okay no it's not that bad yeah i still i still get it on the weekend i get there

yeah keep it in that seven day window and you're good yeah that's all yeah nice nice proud of you all right how the girls doing they're doing good man they're talking a lot i think there's a video uh yes you did and you sent me photos and i just i love them all yeah so they're they're chatty chatty kathys. That's for sure. Talking to each other, talking to inanimate objects. They're pretty entertaining. Yeah. When did they start getting mobile?

I don't know anything about babies. I've never had one to my knowledge. Yeah. And then I got two. When is like they become mobile? 10 months? I become mobile 10 months. I would say 10. I know it's a range, right?

I know. Yeah. So like right now, like they just started kind of rolling over on their own. Okay. Yeah. But your kids are from South Sudan athletes. So it's probably gonna be like seven, seven.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, South Sudan basketball team got smoked by the USA yeah you know I love this country but I gotta tell you I was eating I was actually eating lunch with BW shot to respond to be a good guy BW we invited PJ couldn't make it BW was like you need the lights on I'll keep mine let me take you to lunch took me to lunch and we show up at

255 and he's like lebron's playing south sudan and i was like hey big trey from the podcast his girls are from there oh yeah and he was like he was like i don't want to sound unpatriotic but like i hate lebron because i'm a celtics fan big boston guy if you don't know uh bw and he was like i'm kind of pulling for South Sudan. And then we watched like five minutes. We're like, yep, they're not going to win. They made that friendly. And that's the one where they almost won it that time.

It didn't matter, but it was pretty exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they got their first win. Yeah, they got their first win in the Olympics, though. Are they still in? I don't think so actually i don't know do all these i don't know if it's knockout rounds do all these olympic sports like people will tell you the olympics last what is it 16 days two weeks let's just call it two weeks okay but like do all the sports span two weeks? No. Because, like, for example, rugby was like, welcome to the Olympics.

It's the finals. And I was like, wait, what? And I'm talking men's rugby. I know the women's lasts a few more days. So most of them, like, is Simone done? Simone? She might have some. Do they?

Sometimes they do, like, individual. I know she did the all-around individual. But then they might do, like, i know she did the all-around individual but then they might do like individual i don't know uneven bars and then they'll do like okay i don't know i feel like that's the thing but it's is basketball over no or is it still going you're still playing and there's three on three basketball it's a long game yeah yeah that was actually pretty fun to watch i watched the polish people beat us usa just usa beat china today i did watch that oh usa nice usa china that's the one that's what i'm gonna say china that one yeah china hey china wasn't going to be unburdened by what has been china never never oh well yeah we call them the chinese team because they come from china i feel like i don't know as far as olympic updates go i think that's about it that's about it all right oh katie with deckies that girl oh yeah i'll watch. She's fun to watch. Machines.

Who is that? I missed this completely. The female Michael Phelps. Yeah. Female Michael Phelps. Okay, Michelle Phelps. Dominant. Okay. Careful.

If you make a political joke, don't make it. I didn't mean to. Yeah. Maybe that. Yeah. Yeah, she was good. She crushed it. I mean, she...

So actually, it was a good time, I guess. 3 p.m. on a Tuesday or Wednesday is a good time to go to lunch with BW because we saw... I've always said that. We saw the three-on-three game against the Poles. Yeah. We saw LeBron and Co. smoke the Sudans.

And then we saw Ledecky. And she won so whatever let's say the time was 12 seconds let's say it's 15 seconds but let me like talk to you in like real people I just had a potato for dinner there was

she was touching the end and the other people weren't on the same length like way ahead way ahead smoked him what was that I think 15 seconds people weren't on the same length whoa like way ahead oh yeah way ahead smoked smoked them whoa that was what was that i think 15 1500 meters uh yeah it was a long one yeah that's surprising that never happens it's usually like hundreds of a second because the me the the pool is down and back is 50 right down is 50. So down and back's 100.

Correct, yeah. So it's 15 circuits, yeah. So it was a long one. Yeah, and she crushed them. Crushed them, yeah. Dude. That's rare to see that big of a gap, I feel like. I don't know.

That girl's unreal, man. She's been doing this since. Especially those distance ones. You just like, full lengths of the pool like will win and like you don't even see the other swimmers in the frame when she's like finishing you're like oh yeah so she always done that yeah she's been pretty good for a long time so four years ago she did the same thing yeah and I think eight years ago did the same thing okay it's kind of like the game

cocks in the sec championship exactly exactly all right should be on the podcast next week hey we got a game coming up soon yeah i'm sure yeah we should get her on we'll get her on we'll get her on uh any slides before our guest comes on he's probably like any minute now he should be here now but he's not find a good quick one here a little quick slide you know just a quad slide hey sir nothing really to brief except you have six marines in jail any questions just standing by, sir, for your guidance. My favorite slides. Trey had a good one talking about how, so in the military, I guess it's probably like Department of Defense-wide, the fiscal year ends in September, right?

And kind of like any other fiscal year, whether it's corporate world, whether it's government side, there's a big push to spend all the money you've got at before the end of that fiscal year so you don't get your funds cut for the next year so similar thing goes for ammunition in the military where it's like hey we said we needed 50,000 rounds of 7.62 machine gun ammo and if we don't shoot all this ammo next year, they're going to go, hey, you didn't use that last year, so you're going to get $25,000 for the year or whatever it is. And so Trey wanted to talk about how fun it is at the end of the fiscal year

when you've got to shoot all the ammo so you can get more, the same or more the next year. September. September is a party. I've never wasted so much money so quickly than just going to a heavy... Oh, dude. Just going to the

range, heavy weapons range, and just shooting as many .50 Cals. What's the most fun thing for you to shoot? I like the.240. I think the.240 is a blast. I do, too. I love the.240. I don't even know I think the 240 is a blast. I do too. I love it.

I don't even know what that is. 240 Golf. It's 7.6. 7.6. 2. 7.6. 2. Okay.

Heavy machine. Machine gun. Machine gun. Yeah. Okay. Heavy machine gun. But it's like one, like the 50 Cal's super cool,

but like the 7.6. 2, if you're basically a train marine, you can get on it. Yeah. And dump ammo. Or it's like, like the 50

cal i'm not saying it takes a genius to operate you gotta do the timing yeah there's like just timing wing it it's like driving a manual okay versus like hopping an automatic and the 762 you're like hey numb nuts come here lance corporal make the big dogs eat. And they just dumps it out. It's great. I love shooting. How is it? I've never shot a machine gun. I have a dumb question.

This is my job on the OK Podcast. Ask dumb, maroon questions. OK. So it feels like, so I've shot semi-auto. OK. But I have never shot automatic. OK. How's the aiming while you're doing

that like how's that go i think it depends on what you're shooting a lot of times it starts to rise on you a little bit a rise okay that makes sense so you just gotta kind of get you gotta kind of make sure you're watching that yeah luckily you have the truth what about left to right could you can use much i haven't had yeah it's really like it's you know kind of the dispersion is like along we would say along the gun target line um so like the direction right it's going to kind of fall either long or short because a lot of times you have it like on a tripod so you try to get as stable as possible in most cases. You can shoot off a bipod. You can shoot with it, what they call it, free gunning

or standing. You're not really very accurate at all in that case. Unless you're Arnold. Okay. I didn't know it's mounted, so that helps. You actually have an A gun or two. What's that?

You're down behind the gun and you have an assistant that's like spotting oh you actually like an automatic in the movies people just like hit go and go forever that'll actually overheat the barrel so first and the marine corps we call it talking guns okay so like you have you you want two 240s yeah and so like i'm like and then i stop and then like before my last round left my chamber jeff started they're starting and then my a gunner's like down whatever and you have a thing called teeny uh what traverse and elevation um yeah so it's it's it's like you're left and right you're up and down so like let's say you're shooting at a tank yeah they're gonna be like down four right two and so why jeff's

shooting because if you just like keep suppressive fire then the enemy can't shoot back i'm making adjustments and then while they're going so you need to and you want to find well i mean you don't as far as you don't you don't want to shoot too short you. Well, I mean, you don't. As far as you don't want to shoot too short. You want to. So, like, you don't want to. If you just, like, do it, like, hold it down barely and let go, like, you get jams. So, you want to find, like, a sweet spot. So, if you hold too long, it starts overheating.

Don't hold it down long enough, it jams. You just kind of. Oh, so if you fire, like, five rounds, it'll jam? Yeah. Five rounds isn't enough. Yeah enough yeah yeah i don't know what the i'm not i'm not an o3 but uh which is an infantryman but like yeah you know you're shooting 10 to 30 okay like you're you're putting some rounds down range yeah yeah is this mounted to the back of is this like again stupid again, stupid. No. Is this on the ground? Is this on a vehicle? Both.

Is this in a helicopter? I don't know. So the Marine Corps, you have to get trained. Sick. At least in the artillery. I feel like there's like a training. You get signed off. You do a mounted, like vehicle mounted weapon shoot.

And then you do it just on the ground. And you have to get trained in both of those annually. Supposed to. Okay. Okay. According to. Yeah. you do just on the ground you have to get trained in both of those annually supposed to okay okay according to yeah so they'll shoot them off the helicopters also like if uh like a uh1 huey so it's kind of like a utility helicopter like the one you always see flying missions and like vietnam movies with like the side doors so those guys will have a different model of the 240 but they can have that mounted on there and they'll shoot those off the door. So those are like a little more.

That looks fun. Yeah. A little, I don't know if inaccurate is how to say it, but like there's a little more dispersion in those fires in some cases. In some cases. But yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, no, it's like if you're on the ground, like shooting a range for training, it's mounted on a tripod. And if you're shooting a range for training it's mounted on a tripod and if you're shooting a vehicular training thing then it's mounted on a vehicle okay but like you'd be reservist like me we're like we have all these tripod or we have all these 240s and we bring them like because like

um potatoes roll downhill like you're down in the reserves and you don't have the mounts. So it's like, hey, I would put this vehicle down here looking at this road, but the potato hasn't rolled to me. So I can't physically mount it to the vehicle. So now I have to take the gun and like make a guy dig a hole. But which is like also like, hey, real life,

if you don't have the mount or the mount breaks, you have to do that. But yeah usually it's usually it should be an ideal situation where jocko wilnick wakes up at 0 330 yeah we have a mount yeah worst case you just you're just holding it yeah worst case she's just praying because like on the sprain and praying on like the infantry side right so like if they're a lot of times dismounted walking around in a squad to like you know 12 to 13 marines they may have a machine like a 240 gunner like attached to them and that guy's just walking around and so it might be like oh they get ambushed it has a bipod on it so like little legs that come out of like the front and so that's kind of like a hasty thing real quick if you like all of a sudden just getting an ambush or a firefight

like they've got those to kind of have kind of a more stable platform than just like standing and holding it like arnold schwarzenegger free gunning baby i want that guy around whoever's holding that he's a nice guy to have but the biggest part when they talk about marine corps training that jeff and i liked and trey is uh you know they talk talking guns yeah meaning one gun's not going it's like like a conversation yeah and they go back and forth and then like whenever talking guns get going someone go let the big dogs eat and uh that's that's about that's the best part of being a Marine. Without fail. Without fail, let the big dogs eat. We got a big dog trying to get in this conversation.

Let's get this guy in here. No Spanish speakers here, but welcome to the podcast. My cousin, BJJ legend, Uki for Don, John, Danaher, John. But I just put them together. Don Juan. I just want to call him Don Juan.

John Danaher, what would you say you work for? BJJ Fanatics? Or what's the main brand there? Yeah, BJJ Fanatics is the name of the company. And you should definitely practice that intro a little bit more grant no we like to do it we like to do it live we'll fix it in post but uh for those that are listening plasto is actually my cousin we get comments on the youtube channel oh he left he's gone he's disturb bro you gotta do it are you sure you want to let

people know that we're related yeah yeah so i want to explain this to some people because people say how is this your cousin and i'm like it's really not that difficult like my aunt married a puerto rican and they're like yeah but how do you you have Puerto Rican cousins just because you married a Mexican? And I'm like, no. Yeah, but how? Like, my aunt married a Puerto Rican. You're not Puerto Rican. No, I get that right, but how? Like, how'd that happen? But why aren't you Puerto Rican?

Yeah. Do you become Puerto Rican after that? Yes. Well, I'm by proxy Puerto Rican. There you go. But this, this more than anything just goes to show just how white grant is he's so white that even his puerto rican family are white he is very white that is true that's how white he is he's pretty like look at me like if someone if a police officer pulled me over i'm like excuse me sir how you doing yeah Yeah, I love America. Yeah. Yeah. You're getting off of the warning for sure.

Great work. Great work. So white. Sounds like great. Let me ask you this though, Plasto. Compared to my four siblings, am I still the whitest? No. Nah, dog.

Nah. Nah. That's pretty funny. You got me there, bro. You got me there. You got me. You got me. He's basically Puerto Rican. all right so placido owns a jiu-jitsu gym in massachusetts he kind of likes boston sports teams doesn't really care about sports he loves america uh and you're a big jujitsu guy you lift weights i don't know if you were like to give us hey this is who i am besides the fact that you have seven kids and i don't even know how you did that um what would you say thanks for your service okay so if i was to introduce myself and and say a little bit i'm you know i'm a christian first and foremost i'm bit about I'm a Christian first and foremost I'm a husband, I'm a father

I'm a jiu-jitsu practitioner and yeah, you're right, I do love America so that's a good bio is practitioner the official term? I get it I mean, it's a good term I like it

you know, like, if you lift weights I guess, would you call yourself i'm a weightlifter no you know or i like i like to strength train you know what i mean like yeah yeah i know i mean i practice in the weights exactly don't let the weights practice in you yeah that's right that's right so let's get right into it because i don't even know the answer to this question you're my primo How did you get into jujitsu? Jujitsu. So the way I got into it was in college, university.

I used to play basketball and basketball didn't really work out in university. So I kind of started looking for the next thing that I could do to have a competitive outlet. looking for the next thing that I could do to have a competitive outlet. And I went to a local jujitsu gym that had just so happened to send us an email at the local Christian group that was on campus, which I was a part of and would help run. So they sent us an email. I was like, yeah, let's go check it out. I checked it out, fell in love with it. And that was the rest is history. like you know i was like yeah let's go check it out i checked it out fell in love with it and that was the rest is history so okay the rest is history but you go from hey i'm a christian on campus and i'm not good at basketball christian practitioner yeah christian practitioner yeah i'm not good at basketball too i'm the is is uki the right word that was really good yeah

is uki the right word that's what we call. Is uki the right word? That's what we call it in the Marine Corps, in our Marine Corps martial arts program. But the person that like... Yeah, uke. Uke. The uke is the... Uke. Okay. Okay.

Okay. So how did you get... You start doing jiu-jitsu and you like it. Cool. But how did you then go boom i'm in all of danaher's videos um so so the way that worked was you know when i started jiu-jitsu i i like i said um i really enjoyed it a lot and i'm the type of guy where if something catches my interest, it's pretty much all or nothing. I know very, very, very little about many things, but if I find something that catches my interest,

I'll go all in on that one thing. And I'm all for having competent knowledge of many different areas, right? Which is actually the opposite of what my coach, John, is like. He's extremely competent in many areas of knowledge. Like he's just the type of guy that can absorb a lot of knowledge and retain a lot of knowledge. I'm not like that. I'm more of a specialist.

If you, if you may, when it comes to that, like I have to focus on one thing. Like sometimes people will tell me something. I'm like, dude, I'm not going to remember that.

I don't have enough bandwidth up here to remember that. So don't be offended if I don't remember that. Yeah, that's my own heart. Yeah, yeah. So with jiu-jitsu, I just went all in. Like I was, you know, I went from, you know, I was doing it two days a week at first. I was like, how can I make this three days a week?

When I went three days a week, how can I make this four? How can I make this five? I just became obsessed. And I was training and drilling as much as I possibly could. And then eventually at that time, Coach John and what was known back in the day, people who do jujitsu will know what I'm talking about. You guys won't. But back in the day, it was known as the Danninger Death Squat was when they first came on the scene.

And they were just starting to come onto the scene and make waves and starting to beat a lot of people and as a young i remember as a young white belt i took notice of them back then gordon ryan who's arguably one of the most famous jiu-jitsu practitioners now is it wasn't even a uh a black belt back then he was still a brown belt but i took notice and then i was like wow those guys are really cool and i started looking up to them i started watching all their highlight reels and when i found out john would teach classes in new york city and like it was at a school and anybody could just come i just went and i tried it and i just stuck with it and that's pretty much all it came down to is just i kept showing up so many people show up and then they stop going

because it gets hard or this or that the the other. Matter of fact, I remember when I lived in Massachusetts and would travel to New York, there were so many different times where I would get people to start going with me because traveling from Massachusetts to New York City was like quite the trip. It was like at least three and a half, four hours of, you know, just driving down there one way. Then you're looking at three and a half, four hours of just driving down there one way. Then you're looking at three and a half, four hours the other. Then you're looking at gas expenses, food. It takes a whole day. You're tired. I would go down for the days where there were double sessions. So the first session was at 7.30 AM. Second session was at noon. Do the math. I would have to wake up at

my house at like 4 AM, sometimes like 3.30 if i thought the traffic was going to be extra bad drive down so you just get home exhausted but it was so hard to find somebody that was just willing to stick with it and do it with me over time i found plenty of people that were willing to do it with me you know like a couple months three months four months but then they would all just fall off like they they just stopped doing it. They stopped going for whatever reason, for one reason or another. So then, um, I met the owner of BJ Fanatics, Michael, and I was training at the same gym up here, Massachusetts, uh, a gym by, uh, run by Travis Stevens, who was a judoka, um, silver medalist forist for the United States back in, I forget, it was the Tokyo Olympics. I forget what year that was exactly. But Michael knew of me because I was in the same gym that he was,

and he knew that I would go down and train with John. And Michael, the owner of BJ Fanatics, was like, hey, man, I just signed a contract with John. Would you like to come in and help with the project? I was like, I'd love to. And that's how that happened. Can we just take a minute to say something real quick? So Placido said that he's a jiu-jitsu practitioner, but I don't think he, I think he's being humble. Yeah.

And when he says practitioner, are you a black belt? No, I'm not a black belt. I'm a purple belt under John. Purple belt under John. Okay. And I will say. But that means the second, sorry to cut you off but the under whoever that matters means a lot right um yeah for sure for sure like um who your belt is under probably and so the thing about the belt system in jujitsu is is it's become very what's the word I want

to use? Perhaps like ambiguous. Like what is a brown belt in one person's mind may not necessarily be the same standard of brown belt in another person's mind. What you say I'm sorry? Is it like almost

watered down? Is that what you're saying? There's a lot of gems out there? Yeah. It depends a lot. You'd think, for example, you'd think that say, for example, if brown belt is above blue belt,

then brown belt will always beat blue belt. But it doesn't always work that way. Sometimes you'll get a blue belt who's just so much better than whatever brown belt you're talking about and will actually wreck the brown belt do you see what i'm saying yeah i imagine that john donahue a john donahue purple belt is legit it's it's definitely it's definitely john donahue purple belt will probably beat a lot of other Purple Belts for sure. For sure.

Yeah. And probably other Browns and Blacks for sure. Right. Okay. Yeah. So it's stricter. So like the name. Because I don't want to get you off your story, but driving through California, it's like BJJ by Gracie whoever.

Yeah. BJJ by this Gracie. Yeah. Art of Jiu Jitsu by uh what's the Brazilian guys art of jiu-jitsu is the Mendez brothers they're good the Mendez the Mendez brothers right like no I know they're like yeah so like there's all these different things and it's like me my first exposure to jiu-jitsu was from one of my Jeff Harrison. He's been working for me or with me since 2017. He's a black belt under the Mendez brothers. And he explained to me, no, you don't understand. There's a hierarchy.

And I'm like, everywhere I look in California, there's a jujitsu gym. He's like, yeah, they're all different. But anyway, so a purple belt under Dr. John, is that what you call him? No, he's not. John never calls himself a doctor. I don't think he ever got his official doctorate degree from a university. He did teach philosophy for some time at Columbia University. But they call it professor.

And the reason they call it professor is because in Brazil, which is where the sport originated, the word for teacher that Brazilians use is professor, professor. Right. So they say it like that. So it just like, you know, the Brazilians, when they came to the United States, you know, they're not going to change their language or their terms necessarily just to, you know, accommodate Americans, I guess. So they just kept calling the teacher, the professor.

So the teacher is called the professor. So John is referenced as a professor. Now, if you ask, he is absolutely a doctor of jiu-jitsu without a doubt, right? If, you know, a lot of people have been able to see John now in this information age through his instructionals and through his videos, but people who meet him in person will be able to attest how much information this person can hold. Like, it's a true gift that God has given him for sure, but he's definitely a doctor of jiu-jitsu. So if you want to call him a doctor of jiu-jitsu,

I don't think there's anybody out there that would say, no, that's not right. Okay, okay. Well, I have a ton of questions for my cousin, but let me let Jeff and Trey take some stabs at you. That's how you go for it, bro. Okay. What year did you get started with jjitsu uh let me see we're in 2024 i got started uh it'll be 10 years this coming uh in the in december of this year i will have been doing

jujitsu for 10 years officially so 2014 ish okay okay right around that yeah yeah have you i mean So 2014-ish. Okay. Right around then. Yeah. Have you, I mean, I feel like I bring this guy up a lot on the pocketbook. So have you seen, is there really like a Joe Rogan, like boom, like as that podcast like shot through like the stratosphere, I feel like bow hunting and jujitsu probably saw like just like masses of people flock to those pursuits just because of the sheer amount of listeners and then like the sheer amount of time that that guy spends talking about those topics did you did you see that like effect was it like real and like oh yeah i remember it this year so seeing tons of people flock in so i think so i personally didn't get to see that because when did Joe Rogan's podcast get started? Wasn't it early 2000s? Yeah. It was like –

Oh, it was really – That was like 08. Yeah. Yeah. So by the time I came on the show, Joe Rogan's podcast had already been online for however many years it was. Yeah. So I think – I don't think think i haven't been in the sport long enough to see that effect take place yeah but i know for a fact from listening to people who have

been in the sport long enough that that is 100 a thing that because joe had spoken so much about jujitsu the the sport saw a lot of growth and i and i still i think it still continues to see a lot of growth from that um i think i've heard this time and time again jujitsu is actually the fastest growing martial art in the in the world right now so um and there are many reasons for it but yeah if that answers your question yeah yeah yeah residency yeah because like you know just from listening to that that's probably around the probably like around 2014 2013 so i really started listening to it and so like just from you know just binging episodes uh so like when grant was like oh yeah

yeah my cousin he's like the the uke for for john donahue i was like oh i know who that is and i've never taken a jj class in my life and i was was like, okay, I know this name. I've heard Joe talk about it. So I know that this guy is like, this must be super legit because- That's awesome. Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, John has been on the podcast a couple of times for sure. Yeah, yeah.

What episodes on the podcast do you like to listen to for the JRE podcast? I love the standup comedian ones just because I think it's fun to hear the ins and outs of that life. Okay. And then the fighter ones I think are always great because I don't have any fighting background

other than I am a green belt in Marine Corps martial arts. I don't know if you're familiar with this program. Let's go. One mind, any weapon. Big deal. But yeah, I love listening to that stuff. Because then just hearing the mindset that those guys step into the UFC cage with is so cool here.

And the BJJ ones are great too. What was the name of that, of the comedian that went on the Tom Brady roast? Oh, Nikki Glaser? He was like, Tom Brady, why do you look like a gay Tom Brady? Was it Tony Hitchcliff? Yeah, Tony Hitchcliff. He was on JRE. It was so good.

Peaky Blinders. That's Andrew Schultz. Oh, not Andrew Schultz. Do you listen to that Kill Tony podcast? Yeah. So when I lift, I listen to most of my podcasts when i'm lifting and when i'm driving same and i try to as much as possible um listen to stuff that's like actually like productive and you know we'll have information that i need like i try to as much as possible stick to that

so i don't watch that much kill tony the last kill tony that i watched was the one where um he had like biden on there and trump yeah shane gillis was true i saw that that was so good great you saw that you watched the whole thing no i just saw the clips i just saw clips on x yeah i didn't watch the whole thing i watched maybe like 40 minutes of it, but it was just, it was phenomenal. It was funny. I bet. I bet the UFC talking about what Jeff was saying. I bet the UFC caused a lot of growth for people signing up to jujitsu because there's that whole story of the guy comes into the UFC and starts strangling everyone. And they're like, what's this Brazilian guy now who's that which gracie was it uh that was hoist hoist gracie okay it was like he's like this kind of small brazilian guy with

his full you know gi on and all these it was kind of like an untested early part of the ufc placer don't tell me if i'm wrong and everybody thought like oh this is the best martial art karate's the best martial art just being a giant strong guy is the best martial art and then this like brazilian guy with his full gi on comes and just starts strangling everybody and they're like what is this no weight classes in ufc and there's no weight classes either and he was beating guys way bigger than him no weight classes no weight classes ball striking bro i've seen a video of this dude. He had ball striking? You can see some of the old USC videos.

Dude gets sprawled on. Picture the guy. You know how when you look at a bull's behind, you can see his balls hanging? That's how they do his balls. That's my favorite thing to look at. Just from behind. Bro, all he starts cutting the balls over. One, two, three, four.

No way. And they're bare knuckle, too. They're two, three, four. No way. And they're bare knuckle too. We call them huevos. Huevos. He was getting those huevos scrambled, bro. Scrambled eggs. Yeah. You put a little bit of salsa on it, that's it.

Oh my gosh. Okay, so, alright. And remember, I'm like ignorant to all this like for a reason i mean i don't intentionally be ignorant but like mma do you consider yourself like in that world or is that like a completely different world um i trained uh i trained mma with John for a couple of years. So does he train people? MMA would be the same as UFC, right? UFC is like an organization that does the sport MMA. Correct.

So does John deal with that too? Yeah, he does. He does. Okay. Yeah, he's also – a lot of people don't actually know this. He's not as – I mean, he's not as well-known for it, but John is a phenomenal MMA coach. I mean, dare I say, in my opinion, probably the best MMA coach on planet Earth. He's every bit – as good as he is in jiu-jitsu, he's every bit as good at MMA.

People are like, how does he even know when he's striking? Trust me, he studies and he knows. Like, he knows a lot. And, I mean, it's shown from some of his products, especially George St. Pierre. Like, he helped George St. Pierre, you know, be one of the most dominant UFC champions in the history. And he was also with, if I'm not mistaken, he was also with the guy'm not mistaken he was also with the guy from Long Island that beat Anderson Silva I forget the guy's name

Kid Rock sorry you said UFC my mind went to Kid Rock he showed Kid Rock how to mow down that entire case of Bud Light John showed him how to do that. The best coach in the world.

Professor. Listen, he can teach you how to shoot a fully auto weapon no problem. No problem. No problem. We were talking about before this. Yeah, exactly.

What were you guys talking about? Machine guns. Yeah, we guys talking about machine guns yeah we were talking about machine guns yeah you guys are making me drool here massachusetts things have been getting so bad when it comes to the second amendment uh go for it i know you want to go on a political rant so just go for it let the big dogs eat wait wait tell us why tell us why you think that Kamala Harris' gun confiscation plan is a good thing for America and why that's what we need in this country. I think it's just important that we allow the unburdening of the past to help us correct the future things of unburdened past. Because that's the way that we're going to move towards passion. That's right. Towards passion. Space is fun.

Yes. That's how we create a running functioning democracy because when a, when a democracy runs and functions, it also can function and run the way it's supposed to function. I didn't think about that. That's a great point actually. Yeah. That's, yeah. That sounds like something John donahue maybe would even say i i don't know if he's at that level yet he's not there he's not a low level yeah i have some questions for him go for it all right so placido i don't know if you know you're talking to but i'm a four stripe white belt from back in the day so just letting you know what listen

not for nothing four stripe white belts can 80% of the street fights they get in. You know what? I've said that to people. I've said, not that I'm a jiu-jitsu practitioner. I haven't done it in a long time. But I have told my friends and people have asked me about it before. Take six months of jiu-jitsu. Like go multiple times a week.

You have a giant advantage, right? And actually, that actually leads to my first question. I feel like I have, I feel like I know what you're going to say to this, but you take a random guy, you say, Hey, he says, Hey, I want to be prepared to defend myself in a street fight. I got a boxing gym in my area and I got a jujitsu gym in my area and I got time to go to one. Which one are you telling him to go to? Yeah, a hundred percent. So I've had this, I've had this conversation, uh, many times, inclusively with John himself, when it comes to it, you know, again, the, the ideal is to try to be competent in many different forms of combat, right? So you want to be competent in striking,

you want to be competent that, you know, standing to ground, and then you want to be competent on the ground as well but if you only had to choose one martial art to uh focus on if street defense is your actual focus it's really really hard to make a case against jujitsu as being that martial art um why why that's not to say that that isn't to say that that, say, for example, something like boxing or Muay Thai is not effective on the streets. I am not saying that at all. Boxing and Muay Thai are incredibly effective. They're incredibly great martial arts. Now, let's answer Grant's question. Grant's asked why. What is it specifically about jujitsu that makes it the best martial arts for the street? And the answer to that is that when you look at jujitsu as a whole, when you look at jujitsu as a system, it actually encompasses the most complete system out of all the different subsets, all the different martial arts. OK, jujitsu is essentially a four step system.

Step one, you take your opponent from the standing position to the ground with a takedown. Step two, you pass your opponent's legs and you pin them. Step three, sorry, you pass your opponent's legs. Step three, you pin them. Step four, you isolate the limb and you submit them. Okay. When do you shoot them? Step five.

Step five. Step five. them. Okay. So again, when do you shoot them? Grant, had you watched John wick, you wouldn't be asking such stupid questions. Never seen it. I was homeschooled. Sorry. Yeah. You got to watch John wick, bro. And you'll know once you shoot them. Okay. Okay. No, I didn't mean to take you out for stuff. I was just curious when you shot him. I mean, listen, in Massachusetts, it's actually better for me if somebody gets in a confrontation that's about to attack me for me to shoot them than it is for me to strangle them. Believe it or not. I believe it. Wow. Interesting.

Trey, you have to ask me your question. I got two. So one, my brother, Dr. Gatledge, just started doing jujitsu. So I was telling you when you were coming on the podcast, he was pretty excited and he had a good question. But my question first, though, I guess comes from me. I remember seeing a video I think Grant had posted kind of when you started strength training. And maybe you can touch on that a little bit, kind of before and after benefits you see. But I guess the question I had is kind of as far as just training aspect,

what's your percentage? Are you training technique versus strength or cardio? Is it like a 50-50 mix? Are you heavy on technique and then less cardio? You know what I'm saying? How do you have that split? Yeah, how do I balance everything you're asking? Yeah, yeah.

Do you have a preference of how you like to do things when it comes to that? Yeah, sure. So first off, tell Dr. G I appreciate the question. And so all I'm saying is – A man of the people. Yeah. Dr. G, hi, how are you doing? What's he a man of the people yeah doc dr g hi how you doing what's he doctor of okay with dr g i thought he'd be dr gynecologist or something yeah that would that would be better if he missed opportunity he's yeah doctor you know back to school but uh anyways uh how do i balance everything

good question it this depends a lot on how intense the training is depending on uh what you're preparing for right so okay are you asking more for a athlete are you asking more for a practitioner i would say something so So like in his case, he, like he practices, like he'll go to the gym maybe once or twice a week to practice technique on jujitsu. And then just like your average run of the mill, Jordy said, Hey,

I'm going to the gym just to learn it. Kind of. How do you, how do you find that split? So I great. So Grant one time told me something that I thought was really insightful and I think it's true. Grant said to me one time that when it comes to strength training, as long as you get yourself in the gym three days a week and you push yourself, that you will be able to make strength progress in games. And that's true.

That's 100% true. games. And that's true. That's 100% true. With that said, as far as with jiu-jitsu goes, personally, the way I've been able to find a good balance between being able to practice my jiu-jitsu and at the same time be able to still hit the weights is to spread the load across. So instead of a three-day split, I've been doing a four-day split. The way I've been doing a four-day split is I've been doing more of what most people would call a type of conjugate or congruent training.

Basically, the way it works is I'll go either upper body on one day, lower body on the other. Lower body being, let's just keep it barbell specific, your squat, your deadlift the other lower body being let's just keep it barbell specific your squat your deadlift and then upper body let's just keep it very starting straight specific your bench your press right um and then on one of those days your upper body lift is intensity focused so the volume is very low but the intensity is a bit higher right it doesn't have to be balls

to the wall every single um intensity session but it's higher it's just it's just meant to push you a little bit and i found that if you train with intensity so like say for say like in your 85 max range 85 one rep max range but you keep the volume very low you can still hit that high intensity lift because you have low volume you feel fine you yeah you hit a heavy double triple this morning maybe even a heavy single but you're good to go for training like you don't have any soreness does that make sense yeah same you know and that goes both ways it goes for the upper body it goes to the lower body same thing with the vault so then the other day is the volume day right so you have your intensity day and then you have your volume days

So then the other day is the volume day, right? So you have your intensity day and then you have your volume days. On the volume days, the way it typically works with the type of training I've been doing is on the volume days, you focus on, again, lower intensity with a higher volume. Again, because the intensity is lower, the volume is very manageable. And the way it typically goes, it scales, right? is very manageable and the way it typically goes it scales right so you start the uh the volume the volume you can adjust depending on how much you want to push yourself right so that's where you can really push yourself so for example say for example on uh there's like three weeks where i need to just more of maintenance not so much of like pushing hard for progress. My volume day, what I'll do is like, say, for example, I'll do like 10 sets of three reps. That's super small.

Three reps at like 70%, right? That's like almost nothing. Like you can move that bar super fast. Say I want to push myself, right? Now we're talking, say, for example, five sets of like two reps at like 85 to 90 percent or say for example or you may even be pushing even harder right so um so i mean i've found that the the the conjugate or like the congruent training to work a lot better with jujitsu because again on the days that you have very high intensity the volume

is low enough so you can still go in the gym and on the days when the volume is higher the intensity is still low enough where you can still go in the gym and train um so so follow-up question so right now you work for dr john you have a jujitsu studio that you have to run how many days are you lifting weights and how many days are you rolling and include um i i think that's one thing where uh jiu-jitsu is very different than strength training right like so i trained five people today in person i did no physical effort right like because there's nothing and maybe you maybe you think of training someone in jiu-jitsu is no physical effort maybe you have a new key there or whatever but i just mean like how many days are you in like hey i'm trying to make my jiu-jitsu

craft better and how many days you in the gym saying like hey i'm i i may not get stronger today but i'm working on things to get stronger over time? Because I mean, I think the real answer is that you actually ran your novice linear progression correctly. You got strong. And then now you actually are kind of in a maintenance mode. And you're like, how do I balance these two things? But how many times you've done jujitsu? And how many times are you lifting weights? So I'll answer that question. After I answer it, I'm going to clarify because when I answer that question, some people listening to this podcast and be like, how the heck is he doing that? And non steroids. Okay. I lift,

I lift at least four days a week. Sometimes I'll lift five days a week. If I feel like, you know, I just want to get a little bit more volume in a little bit more quote unquote assistance work. And I'm doing jujitsu six days six days a week okay now with that said people like what the heck like how is this kid like doing jiu-jitsu six days a week he's lifting five days a week like i can barely like do my two days a week of jiu-jitsu my days of lifting weights and i'm absolutely dead okay Okay. Now I'm going to ask you a hypothetical grant. Say, for example, somebody came to you, Grant, and they said to you, Hey, you know, you're Grant Brogy. You say you should at least get in the gym three days a week to still make progress. What if they told you, he's like, Grant, I get in the gym. I go three days a week,

but I absolutely cannot do it. I just physically can't get in there three days a week. Is it a time thing? No, no, no, no. It's not a time thing. I can make the time to go in there. What do you mean? It's just too much for me, man. I just can't do it.

What's probably the first thing you're going to tell that person? Without cursing? Find another program. I'm going to ask them if they're, if they're sleeping enough, if they're waiting enough between sets and like how aggressive they're going on load progression. There it is.

You hit it. You hit the nail on the head, right? How aggressive, right? How aggressive is your training? It's the same way with jujitsu. It's no different.

You can't go to the gym three, four days, four times a week to the jujitsu gym, go balls to the wall and expect yourself to recover. And that's what people do. Like that's what the average guy does. Like, unfortunately, the average guy has absolutely zero concept of how to pace themselves in the jujitsu gym. Every single role they go, they they go they want to beat you because you guys have to understand like with weights yes there is a competitive nature in weights like i want to outlift that but it's you against the bar it's not you against another person exactly and so when you go against another person like it really takes like a lot inside of

a man to be like i'm not gonna beat this guy this guy up. I'm going to, you know, I'm just going to go soft. Right. Cause, and it takes two to tango, right? It takes two people coming onto the same page saying, Hey, we can't afford to keep up this high intensity training load. We have to take this down. And unfortunately too many people don't do that and they never do that and so their whole jiu-jitsu career is plagued with with um with ego injuries right because and they do the same thing it's the they repeat the cycle over and over again they go into the gym they go too hard time and time again they get injured they take time off they recover from injury. They come back to the gym. They go too hard over and over and over again. They get injured, they recover. And then the cycle just repeat, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. So I think honestly, one of the biggest problems with most jujitsu practitioners, even recreational ones like Dr. G, is that they go way too hard in the gym, like in the jujitsu gym.

Listen, it typically has nothing to do with the weight room. Okay? Understand, in the weight room, this weight. There we go. There we go. Right? So this weight is fixed. I know how much load this is.

This isn't going to move on me. Like I can predict what this is going to do. When you hit hands with somebody and you go for a roll, you don't know what the load is going to be. You don't know how it's going to move. Right. It's completely unpredictable. Right. So a lot of times youjitsu guys when they can't manage both the first thing they do is like oh well i guess i gotta ditch the lifting because i'm you know i want to keep doing jiu-jitsu buddy you're an idiot like this doesn't change like this is the most predictable thing you have this is what you have to keep going adjust your jiu-jitsu training bro you're

doing it wrong and if he's holding he's holding a strength code 25 pound plate for the listeners continue yeah well i'm in my weight room strength coat plate usa gorgeous you know that's funny you say that i'll say this tell me if this isn't what you've seen but in my limited jiu-jitsu experience i had the opportunity to roll with, and I say, roll loosely, loosely. They were probably just like playing around with some brown belts and actually one black belt. And the thing that struck me and I would see them roll with other people. It actually looked like they would get more relaxed when they would start rolling. And to the point, one guy, he was not slacking it, but it looked like he was going slower.

Like he would go, like he would kind of Zen out and almost go in slow motion. And then I would roll with him. And the experience that I felt was, I can't tell you exactly what moves he did. I felt like he was going in slow motion and my, I couldn't move. Like I couldn't breathe or move or do anything it was just like he was just yeah i was terrified and i was trying and i would have felt better if he was like going balls to the wall is this is this when we ask if the sport is gay because i feel like we just yeah he was he was caressing me bro yeah he was like caressing me and and then strangled me almost to death but

that's fine but did you have you seen that too yeah 100 grant always loves to send me memes of jujitsu guys like doing the gayest things it happens it's called the north south position north south listen the moment i send grant, anything that has to do with Marines doing gay things, that's it. That's it. That's it. It's gone. Matter of fact, yo, yo, hear me out. Hear me out.

Hear me out. There have been times that I will see something on X of some Marine doing something wild. And I'll be like, I'm not going to send it to Grant because I know it's going to ruin his day. He doesn't want to smoke. You should send it. They definitely do know it's going to ruin his day. He doesn't want to smoke. You should send it. They definitely do the gayest stuff ever. All right. Listen, you heard it here.

It's recorded. Grant said you should send it. Send it. All right. You said it. You said it. Recorded for history. Full send.

Full send. No, it's true. No, it's funny because marines do you know i always think of this because i always tease plosdo and like i'll find a jujitsu thing and it does look like some gay activity and i'll think like man if i'm really cold and i'm in the marine corps and i'm sleeping like i'm totally hugging that dude next to me because i'm really cold and this is the least gay thing i've ever done I'm totally hugging that dude next to me. I am really cold. This is the least gay thing I've ever done.

I'm hugging this dude. I'm getting as close to him as I can. Can I get in his sleeping bag? Because I am freezing. Are you big spoon or small spoon? He's big spoon. We're just spoons. We're just spoons.

We don't want to be unburdened by what has been. We're just spoons. We're just spoons. We don't want to be unburdened by what has been. We're just spoons. Non-binary spoons. Okay, so that's all good. I feel like we have to hit on a couple more things. So we hit on Dr. John. We talked about training and jujitsu. Let's see.

You have a business open there in Massachusetts. Um, I don't know, like, how's that going? Uh, are you, you know, opening a brick and mortar establishment is tough. Yeah. Like, like, like, are you, cause especially if you're passionate about it, right? Like I want to teach everyone how to squat. That's what I want to do. I want to wake up in the morning, teach people how to squat. You open i want to do i want to wake up in the morning teach people how to squat you open a business you're like oh there's like a sign there's rent there's electricity there's a toilet bill like there's all these things like have you found it to be rewarding or have you found it to be like oh actually i should just coach people online and i'm'm not, I'm just asking like, or are you like, Hey, I just need more time.

Like, like what do you, what do you think about that experiment? And I think, I think, I think take this out of jujitsu and just take it into there's people that listen to this podcast. They're just interested in business in general in terms of, yeah, for sure. I love this thing and I'm good at it. And that's what made me popular or whatever you want to call it. But like actually opening a brick and mortar place you know what are your thoughts i mean it's definitely

it's i mean you hit the nail right on the head grant when you said it's bit it's challenging for sure it is really challenging um it's been it's been a roller coaster ride honestly is the best way i can i can put it it's opening a gym and being a gym owner. The business is not yet profitable. I haven't made a single dollar from it quite yet. But with that said, it has been a steady, even though it's done this, like Bitcoin, right? Yeah, my guy. It has slowly, slowly, little by little, it's growing okay but it's growing at a

very slow pace i need to find a way to speed that pace up right so people so many people around me that are also gym owners are just telling me dude just keep at it you know uh time under tension and you'll get there so i mean i take their word for it. I guess like just stick with it. I know there's a lot that I have yet to learn. Like I have yet to learn like how to run Facebook ads. I have yet to learn like how to run YouTube ads. And but you know, I've been learning how to do other things. Like I've been starting to grow my Instagram way more. I've been starting to grow on YouTube way more. But I think as long as I keep time under tension, like I do, I am pretty confident that I will be able to have a successful gym in

the area. How successful? That's up to God. Yeah, that's true. No. Yeah. And I think that's a big, I think in the areas, the biggest thing that I've learned is like it is a gym and i don't actually care what venue you're in you can be teaching strength training you can be teaching jujitsu you can be teaching spin you can be teaching uh pilates at the end of the day people that go to the gym go for some type of like almost recreational reason it's like it's the end of the day now i go to the gym and hopefully they're in a strength training or hopefully they're in brazilian jiu-jitsu like hopefully they're into the thing that you're offering but the biggest thing that i learned having now opened i guess three of them is like the local populace is like the people that you're

after and because because people and i'm sure you get this all the time and i hope you validate this as people like oh man you're doing a camp in boise i wish you'd open a gym in indianapolis and what i think having had a gym open since 2016 is no you don't i would open one in indianapolis and you never come you would tell me how it's a 35 minute commute yeah and you would never go there like like you you would totally come to one of my camps and pay a bunch of money for it but you would never be a member like you don't mean that and we get these messages all the time like hey i love what the strength goes doing opening a gym in fort worth you'd never come because you live in frisco

yeah that's an hour drive like it's not happening so what i've learned for gyms is like yeah how like what's my five mile radius and like how popular is the city right so in south carolina it could be a 15 mile radius because we don't have traffic here but like if you're in california like my members that have stayed there since 2017 live within three miles yeah and like they didn't even know what starting strength was yeah they just saw a gym pop up which is a whole new way to think about business but um yeah it's a it's a journey you're on a good one and you have like you can like one thing that helps my gym in california is i can go say, hey, I'm running a lifting camp. Yeah.

And because I built a YouTube, people are like, oh, that's that guy. Yeah. And they'll fly in for it. But I always just remind people when they want to open a gym because they're passionate about something. whatever the yeah the uh you know businesses is hey just because someone will come and see you once doesn't mean they'll see you three times a week like two different things i think you absolutely hit the nail on the head there grant when you said that for most people the gym is a place of recreation it's a place where they come after work yeah it's a place where they come to see community john uh when i first when i first went to open

my gym john i remember very distinctly one time sat me down said to me remember that at the end day when it comes to running a jitsu gym people do not care about what you know they have no interest in what you know all they care about is how you can make them feel that's it that's all they care about is how you can make them feel that's it that's all they care about is how you can make them feel and what i'm starting to realize at the more gym owners i talk to and even people like obviously like what you were just saying grant is you know because i've mostly spoken jiu-jitsu gym owners not strength training gym owners but i'm sure it's the same thing as strength training what it's the parados principle 80 of the people that walk into the door are walking

into the door because they come to this place because of, not because of how good it is or, or whatever the case may be, but how it makes them feel. 20% are there because of how good the product actually is. And because regardless of how it makes them feel, they're going to do it. Right. So I've, I've, I've been seeing that, you know, I've been starting to learn that is that, you know, in any, any gym, whether it's jujitsu, whether it's training, take 20% of the population. Those are your diehards. They'll do it no matter what. It doesn't matter how it makes them feel the 80%. You have to keep them feeling good. Right. Unfortunately, it's the way it works, right? If they don't feel like they're making progress, if they don't feel like they have a sense of community, if they don't feel like they're making progress if they

don't feel like they have a sense of community if they don't feel like you notice them and you validate them they're not going to keep coming it just comes down to that so i guess but but that matters too right like it's like it's like in the gym it's probably similar in jiu-jitsu like it doesn't actually matter if you squat 500 pounds. What matters is that you came in and made progress. Right. And that's what you're trying to relate to your clients is like, Hey,

yeah, you're not a black belt. You're a, what'd you say? A white belt with five stripes, four stripes, four stripes, which is good.

Right. Easy, easy. Listen, Jordy, if I was you, I wouldn't accept that disrespect. Hey,

I don't say no disrespect. I, you I wouldn't accept that disrespect for me I would not say no disrespect you know I will say not to interject but like again correct me but like the jiu-jitsu belts are a little bit different than other martial art belts like saying you're a purple belt in jiu-jitsu or even a blue belt it's like oh you've been in the game for a couple years or a few years like it's not like you're a white belt for a long time. That's what I'm saying. I actually think it's unspoken in strength training, and that's a problem for business.

Like, so I don't know jujitsu, and I'm not going to pretend to do it, but, like, it seems that if you're at it for long enough, you will progress. Some will progress faster than others. Others won't. But, like, in weightlifting, itlifting it's like can you do left 405 and it's like i mean i have brothers-in-law mexicanos that just come in and deadlift 405 untrained yeah and then i have people that train for three years and pull it yeah and then i have people that i look at and i'm like you'll never never pull 405. Like that's just the way it's going to be.

So there's not like these like clear benchmarks. Yeah. Which where in jujitsu, I'm treading very carefully, but like there's, maybe there's always an upward trend or does someone get like, could someone do jujitsu for 15 years and never leave a purple belt? Like,

does that happen and is that an outlier if it does um they're okay there's so many different things that factor into it like what instructor you have factors into that a lot right if you have a good instructor and you come into the gym for 15 years and you don't make perp about level, then you are absolutely retarded. Um, but if you have a bad instructor, that could be possible, I guess,

but I guess it would take like the perfect storm, like two retards, like the instructor just retarded as the, as the, uh, as a student. And so it's just like Helenen keller trying to talk to i don't know tango you already said it yeah exactly it takes two to tango so um

so i mean i guess what you're saying is true but in jiu-jitsu is a little that's the beauty of that sport i think it's one of the reasons why the sport is continuing to grow i think so too what's that people see no i think so too because people see progress yeah that's the problem with what i sell is like hey i do a novice linear progression i get close to my genetic potential now what happens my squats at 315 and i make progress every three months but only if i'm consistent so now what i'm frustrated when I first joined this gym, I made progress rapidly. Whereas like, I feel like in, again, I don't mean this is knock. I mean, it has a great business model. Like, Hey, you may not get stronger. You may not get more athletic, but like, if you keep working at this, like there's a next belt, there's a next level.

And like that matters to people. Like I've seen that that in the gym like when someone deadlifts 300 they don't give any care they don't care at all when they deadlift 315 they're like oh man i had three plates on each side like like they you know it is you know it is a lifter they're like i care that's why i always say never deadlift 310 never squat 400 always go to the next plate if you miss it you die who cares if you squat if you squat 400 all you're gonna think about when you go home is i could have done four plates yeah all you're gonna think about and i think it's like similar to the belts in terms of like hey i achieve the next thing what i think is that in lifting like 405 is 405 yeah one thing one thing i will say yeah and the runway's long too to get to black belt like that's it's not like oh you can get all your get to black belt in three years it's like this might be a 15

year right your journey true true however one thing I will say that I think was probably a bigger challenge for Grant as a strength coach than it is for myself as a jiu-jitsu coach. And so John one time told me that the biggest reason people quit jiu-jitsu is because of boredom. They get bored. Right. And typically the reason a jiu-jitsu practitioner gets bored is that the coach fails to offer a fresh perspective to the student on certain things. Now, with weightlifting, as we know, there's only a few, a handful of exercises that are really, truly worth your time. Right. So while in jujitsu, there are so many different ways that as a coach, I can add variety and intrigue. Right. So while in jujitsu, there are so many different ways that as a coach, I can add variety and intrigue. Right. Into a practice and introduce like a new way of doing a technique or not a new way, but a fresh perspective on a technique. You know, with squatting, deadlifting, pressing, bench pressing, you're basically saying the same thing over and

over and over no that's what we're preaching we're actually saying there's one efficient way to do this whereas you're saying hey man you can't kick a brown belt's ass but i can show you this new dismount from the guard that will help you in your blue belt life or whatever it is and that's great no that's great like yeah like it's it's almost like it's a we generally like say feature not bug and and strength training it's like nah the features you get stronger the bug is it's not exciting like that's all it is how do you i mean have you have you i mean i guess the only way around that is to start pretty much making up random exercises and coming up with all like these types of functional training, right?

Yeah, no, what I generally do, and then we have to ask you a couple of specific questions that we also always ask in this podcast. But what I think is, what I try to do is say, okay, Placido, you deadlifted 450, but you also gained 30 pounds. What's your goal? And you're like, well, I weigh 230. I want to weigh 200. And I say, okay, let's see if we can deadlift 450, your best at 200, right? So you kind of make people approach it from a different way because most people, when they lift lift weights this is just a fact they gain weight because if you if your physical output goes most people i coach if your physical output goes up your caloric intake goes up so they gain weight and then and then you start to you start to look

at those kind of things like hey yeah you did this great weight but you also said you want to be 10 pounds lighter let's focus on 10 pounds lighter but it's different right like for it's even then and even for me right i benched something at you know i benched 380 and then i benched something close to it but at a lower body weight i'm like yeah my best is 380 right whereas in like your world it's like well yeah i was lighter i was heavier i was stronger i was weaker but i was a four white belt now i'm a blue belt yeah and it's like feels like an achievement yeah that's a huge thing and we've actually played around with that in the gym like hey do we give someone a t-shirt

do we give them a thing but it's it's yeah it's it's just different like because there's not a system right i mean there is a system there's a methodology of how to do the lifts but there's not like a if someone says this you'll get it to it and maybe we need to come up with that like hey if you perform your squat technique this good doesn't matter if you're a six-year-old woman like you can clearly do the squat and you're progressing you are a black e-coded strength co 45 or whatever so one time so there was like this um very very wealthy man that um hired me to go teach jujitsu to him in the bahamas great guy more about sam so he was an absolutely so super super cool guy uh i love spending time with him his name's linden

great guy great person to be around also like um you know when you get to spend time around people who have achieved like a very high level of anything in life this guy has achieved a very high level of running businesses right running multiple businesses and so you know you spend time around those type of people you try to absorb little little nuggets here and there and i remember one time he was explaining to so he's like uh his his niche one of his niches is fashion. He owns a lot of different like fashion brands. Right.

And so he was telling me how sometimes in fashion, what's actually cool is not necessarily what's also marketable. Right. So there's what's cool and there's what's marketable. All right. If you just go with what's marketable, then sometimes as a person with actual like, you know, an actual designer with good taste, it's bland to you. Like you're not really following your passion. You're just trying to sell it off. Right. If you try to go with what's actually cool, the masses just don't see that yet.

Like the vision isn't there yet and they're not gonna buy us yeah yeah and you're not gonna make the money so he was telling me in the fashion world the the uh the magic or the magic formula or the goal is struck when the two can meet when what's marketable is also what's fashionable. Right. And he was telling me BJJ meets strength training. I got it.

Placido. Well, what he was telling me was, you know, in jujitsu, oftentimes you have good jujitsu and then you have marketable jujitsu. The two are not always the same, right?

There's a lot of marketable jujitsu that you'll see out there that make people feel good, but the jujitsu frigging sucks, right? And then you have high-quality jujitsu, but unfortunately, whoever's teaching it or whoever's giving that product hasn't yet mastered how to market that product. So they can't necessarily make as much money as this guy over here without saying names. The challenge he gave to me was he was like, if you can find a way to make your product marketable and meet in the middle. I understand you have a standard. I think, dude, you could probably find a way to make a product marketable and meet in the middle. Like, I understand, like, you have a standard. I think, like, dude, you could probably, like, find a way to make a lot of money. So I'm still trying to figure that out. But that's what he told me.

And the reason I'm telling you that is, you know, just to encourage you, maybe you can find a way to make strength training somehow more marketable and, like, meet that middle ground strength that gold i don't know that's why i try to that's why i try to train your mom for a while go ahead quick question i know i know we're kind of running low on time so i'll make it quick so yeah kind of like grant know nothing about jiu-jitsu let's say someone is brand new to it once you get into it and i what i've learned from this conversation that not all gyms are built the same what's like a red flag if i'm walking into a gym and like hey i want to start i want to start this new gym i want to try it out like what's something that if i hear or see something i'm like okay i

gotta find another one so a lot of people are probably gonna find this really funny when i say this but it's the truth and i can say this because the person who said it does not give a you know what of what you think about him and that's gordon ryan all right i remember one time gordon told me he was like typically these days the higher the rank of the person the more they suck right so if i walk into a gym and it's like a red and black belt with six stripes on his belt i know for a fact the guy sucks at jiu-jitsu so long story short to answer your question if you walk into a gym and you see a belt that has like red and black all over it and the guy guy's been doing jitsu for like 60 years.

Probably go to a different gym. Okay. Good to know. That's good. That's outdated. Probably. I'm going to strong Brown belt. Yeah.

I want a four stripe white belt. That's what I'm looking for. I'm going to go. Hey, link in the description. We're taking new signups today. Yeah. Placidos's teaching. I'm not going to show up, actually.

Jeff, I know my cousin's a little unorthodox, but you think you can get it for a good okay? Oh, yeah. Okay. I mean, you're pretty close, and you're like, okay. So we just got to get, just like dig deep, try to get like a real kind of like raspy voice and give us like a,

okay. Okay. There you go. That's a nice one. I like that. I got it. All right. So church.

So Trey, your job now is to, I, I, I assume Placido's listen to 30 episodes in a row. I'm listening to one. Tell him about, tell him about BW.

And like, I, he can, in a row. Tell him about BW. He can give his ad read in Spanish for all I care. That might be actually, yeah. It might be good for the Puerto Ricans because the truth of the matter is if you're in Puerto Rico, you're an American colony? What is it?

Puerto Rico? Colony. Colony, territory.ritory. Yeah. Colony. Territory. Same thing. Sorry. I've been watching Killers of the Flower Moon, and I'm totally out of the zone right now.

Typical white supremacist. Conquers different nations and doesn't even know how to refer to them. Yeah. Okay. Territory. Territory. But BW Tax could help him. So explain to explain to them that we always do these gotcha yeah so as grant's touched on before i don't

you probably listen an episode or two but every time we got a guest on uh we have a sponsor uh we we had many people want to be a sponsor but we we only picked one. That's BW Tax out of Greenville. Great guy, better at taxes. So what we have everybody do is we have them do an impromptu ad read. So we're going to spit some facts at you, and then you got to give the floor is yours. You can go as long as you want, as short as you want, and take it any direction you want to. But it's just an impromptu ad read. And I'll say it, like I usually do it, and the bar's set pretty low, but we have pretty

good faith in you. So we'll go around the room, we'll spit a couple facts about BW Tax, and then you can hit us with your bad impromptu ad read. BW, the letter B and the letter W. Bravo Whiskey. BW Tax. So BW Tax located in South Carolina. Greenville, South Carolina. But just because he's in Greenville, he can do taxes.

You don't have to be in Greenville or South Carolina. You can do taxes anywhere. Okay. I got to go next. He went to high school and acted in mass. He's a huge mass hole, but he was kind of fed up with Massachusetts state laws. And so he relocated himself to South Carolina,

but he can do taxes anywhere. You're in Puerto Rico. I like it. Territory. I like it. He's, he's there for you, Jordy.

Pretty sure he's never done jujitsu, but he always answers the phones when you call. Okay. He's never done jujitsu, but he always answers the phones when you call. Okay. He's an expert at the ins and outs and all the craziness that the government has created with tax laws and stuff like that. He knows how to navigate all those difficult situations. And him and his team are going to get you the best return to get that money back in your pocket. Hey, he's a great small businessman.

Yeah. You get a good family feel. So, Paul, so we always give the listener an option if they want to hear an example. We kind of think a little less of them if they take an example. But we can play you an example or you can just let it ride.

I'm good. I'm going to let it ride. Let it ride, baby. the floor is yours action all right bw tax as a massachusetts resident i'm absolutely sick and tired of our lesbian governor she's taken every dollar out of my pocket bw taxes help me avoid and bypass every single little way that Uncle Sam has tried to wrangle me and leave my lifeless body and my kids without any food. Thank you, BWTax.

I will be using you for my whole life. Tax is around the corner. Listen, listen, listen. It was a little rockin'. It's spicy, baby. I felt the energy. Yeah, I felt it. I felt it.

So, Plaza, at this point, hey, first of all, thank you for coming on. You shared a lot of insight. We took you long. We took you longer than most guests, but you're my primo, so you get that. But I do know that when we drop this in our Slack channel, if you want to join our Slack channel, it's $29 a month. The link's in the show notes. Placido manages the BJJ channel.

So I do know that the guys there will love it. I do know that when I post it on X, that people will love it. And I also know that when I post it on Instagram, people will love it. And I also know that when I post on Instagram, people know who you are. So, but we also reach a different crowd than you might. And we probably reach people in Massachusetts. I hope so. I tell them I'm a Celtics fan every day that I can. So if you wanted this to profit your business,

not Trey, how often can you cough? It's like once every five minutes it's so great wow but no like tell us about your gym tell us about your instagram tell us about your youtube any place you want people to go now's your chance there's two people listening one name's audrey one name's carl but they'll go and follow you okay okay wait, uncle Carl heard what I just said. I need to repent. Uh, yeah, I don't think he makes it that long, but, but your aunt Audrey does. Okay. Audrey, I'm so sorry. I, you know, I want to say I didn't mean what I said, but I'm a sinner and I meant it.

Okay. go ahead. Tell us where to find you. If you're in Massachusetts or New England and you want to get some serious jiu-jitsu training in, definitely hit us up. Five Stones Jiu-Jitsu on Instagram at the number five stones jiu-jitsu. You can hit me up on Instagram too

at Placisantos, P-L-A-C-I-S-A-N-C-O-S, on Instagram. I have a YouTube channel as well. If you're not necessarily in Massachusetts or New England and you just want to learn some Jiu-Jitsu, that's been growing pretty steadily. That's Placidosantos. Just type in my name, Jiu-Jitsu, on YouTube and you'll be able to find me as well. Shoot me a DM if you're interested in visiting the gym. I'll answer it, no problem. All right.

Say something in Spanish before you leave. Okay. Esto fue el OK Podcast. Espero que se lo disfrutaron. Hasta luego, mi gente. Something about this podcast was OK, but I'll see you later. Hit me up.

See you later, my people. Oh, my people. Yeah, mi gente. Mi gente. It's a good, bad, funny song. All right, you got to hang up so we can close out the podcast. Okay, adios. Adios. How do you say good dude in Spanish?

Bueno. Bueno, dude. Muchacho. Oh in Spanish? Bueno. Bueno. Muchacho. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. What's guy?

Good dude. What's guy? Hombre. Muchacho. That's like friend. I like muchacho. Bueno muchacho. Bueno.

Let's just give it to the listeners in English. Jeff, go ahead. He's a good dude. Good dude. Good dude. Good dude. Good dude. We need to get that out of the button. Ooh, we do need a good dude button. Good dude. That's good.

All right, so Puerto Rico in the house. Puerto Rico. Spicy. I like it. What an ad read. Did you do taxes in Puerto Rico? I think it's a territory. Apparently it's not a colony. I thought we left

London for taxation without representation, but apparently it's a territory. I know there's no capital gains tax. I do know that. I know a lot of people go down there like... Jake Paul's clients like to get down there. I got clients. I got Bitcoin clients. I can imagine. I got Bitcoin clients

I can imagine they go to Dorado El Dorado City of Gold can I go on a little movie rant which I know I'm not the movie guy but okay Killers of the Flower Moon you guys seen it

yeah it's a good movie. Interesting take Jeff. No, it's interesting because I, it's three and a half hours long and I'm two hours and 15 minutes into it. Yeah. And so like, I haven't actually like, is the, is Leonardo actually killing his wife or is he just being dumbfounded? Don't spoil it,

Trey, but it made me really, after driving through South Dakota, made me really want to like dig into native Americans and their history here. Dead serious. Not a joke. Yeah. Uh,

good movie though. Scezi through and through was it was there a question with it or is this uh so you have seen it trey yes i have seen it yeah you're from texas i know what you think jeff you've seen it i have not seen it okay i'd be curious your takes so apparently he's wanted to make that movie like that was like one that he's since he started directing i think he's wanted to make that movie and so it's interesting whenever that book came out yeah that's summer of the empire moon is the book so it's different the title everything is two different books dude i don't think some of the empire that's the that's the uh about the cherokee right are you trying to say the cherokees and osages are different

that's it's about the cherokees right is it different i thought they were the same so summer summer of the empire moon is different from killers of the flower moon yes yeah so the empire means about the cherokee in texas specifically and then killers of the flower moon is about it's about oklahoma oklahomans yeah over the indians correct yeah and basically how they found oil up there yeah yeah yep yep okay so two different books two different books both good so basically is your is your moon a flower an empire exactly determines your fate it's interesting though it's it's it it's an interesting movie. I'm really enjoying it. It should be a five-part

small series on Netflix. It should definitely be that. But I do like it. I've turned it into a five-part myself. That's probably smart. Get your fives back. Everything's five.

If we're on movies, Jeff told me to buy one I saw him watch the air but what was the one with the motorcycle oh the bike riders bike riders you like that right now it was Mad Max no yeah it is a thank you yeah and uh wait it really is the same guy yeah yeah yeah you're not far off i love it i love it and uh what's the other guy he was in uh masters of the air uh the guy that was super cool and that just always said yeah yeah yeah guy plays elvis and now talks like elvis okay yeah apparently that was super cool and that just always said, yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy plays Elvis and now talks like Elvis. Okay. Yeah, apparently. That was good. It was really good.

Okay. It's been a movie review. Trey, you got to bring us down. All right. We ready? We're hovering. Yeah, we're hovering. Episode 032. 032, baby. 032. No bingo here, baby.

Of the. Okay. Podcast. I think our guests. Placido. Placido. Placido. Got to get the right emphasis on the right syllable.

Man, great conversation. Good dude. As we talked about, excited to check more of his stuff out online i think our sponsor bw tax great guy that are taxes keeping the lights on as always we're powered by the strength co love seeing the slack channel links below uh come watch some youtube like and subscribe leave us a comment love to interact with you there as well but best way to find us go to www.theokpodcast.com find all the links there you're getting so you're getting so good at this that like it's not even funny anymore i've yes it's pretty dang good on the on the wall back here i just yeah that's it you haven't painted on the wall yeah you haven't mentioned you haven't mentioned my face in weeks you're

just like oh dude that's right yeah or truth social you know we need to get back to that parlor's back i heard great gave me a hard time he said i was going too long on it so i gotta you know shorten it up you gotta get it tight yeah dialed wow so many that's what she said there but I'll just let them all slide I feel like Placido took everything as right as he could and we're good there we've covered all that no that's it

thanks for listening we're a week behind we're gonna be a week behind for the month of August we'll see you next time