The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 35: Country Songs, Strength Co. Plates, & College Football Picks

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

Podcast Hosts: Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach. Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and Lifter Tres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter Join the Slack and Use code OKAY: https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ks Check out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.com TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 04:19  - Low Country 09:10 - Best Country Song 33:03 - Jack White 38:21 - Starting Strength Camp 49:54 - Strength Co. Plates 01:01:26 - Training When Sick 01:07:47 - Lifting While In Physical Therapy 01:14:07 - Soreness 01:22:41 - College Football 01:29:27 - Saved Rounds The conversation starts with the concept of 'upstate' and 'low country' in different states. The conversation transitions to a debate about the greatest country songs of all time, with the hosts reviewing a list and sharing their opinions on each song. The themes covered include classic country songs, outlaw country, and personal preferences in music. The conversation revolves around discussing country music and ranking the greatest country songs of all time. The hosts and guest share their opinions on popular country songs and debate their inclusion in the list. They also touch on other topics such as Post Malone's venture into country music and the reviews of Jack White's album. The conversation is light-hearted and filled with humor. In this part of the conversation, Grant Broggi discusses his experience running Starting Strength camps and the demographics of the participants. He also talks about the longevity of plates and when to buy new ones, as well as best practices for maintaining equipment. The conversation then shifts to training while dealing with illness, with the consensus being that training can continue as long as there is no fever or severe symptoms. The hosts also answer questions from the Strength Co. Slack community. In this final part of the conversation, Grant, Jeff, and Tres discuss the importance of movement in physical therapy and whether soreness is an indicator of a good workout. They also make predictions for the upcoming college football season and share their favorite spots in Greenville, SC.

All right, and welcome back to episode 035 of the OK Podcast, powered by The Strength Co. I'm your host, Grant Brogy, coming to you live from the beautiful upstate of South Carolina. Today's date is August the 20th in the year of our Lord, 2024. The block height, shout out Zach Copley, is 857-689. 857-689. I don't know what that means, but we're putting blocks on top

and Bitcoin is not really on the rise. We're kind of stuck at 59,000, some change. But as I always say, buy nice, don't buy twice. And some things get better with age. Bitcoin's like a bare steel barbell. It's like a brand new cast iron pan. It like a strength co-e coded plate the longer you own it the stronger you are we'll get the price of bitcoin in a second but another abnormal episode i'm here we'll price bitcoin right now 58 998 hoping that hits 60 while we're on air but coming live at the beginning of the podcast we have uh mr je Jeff Biggie, spelled B-U-E-G-E,

but pronounced like Biggie Smalls from Salt Lake City, Utah. Wait, Biggie Smalls? Yeah. I didn't know that. Robert Trey Gottlich III, known as Trey, coming to us from where? Odessa. Odessa. Odessa. I love that I messaged you today and we're like, hey, where are you staying?

Meaning when he comes here next week and he's like, Odessa. I thought you cared where I was staying in Odessa. I didn't even know you weren't away from home. I didn't even know you were away from home. It's odds are I'm away from home if it's Tuesday. If it's Tuesday. That's what Trey always says. That's what he's always said. If it's odds are I'm away from home. If it's Tuesday, it's Tuesday. That's what Trey always says. That's what he's always said.

It's Tuesday on Tuesdays. Yeah. He's looking for Amarillo. Um, let's see what's happened in the world. Uh, well, the first weekend of college football will have happened by the time this

airs. We have a Steven Garcia on the podcast. Hope you enjoyed that one. sure did great um yeah uh that's new youtube videos nothing this is where pj has like the laptop and he's pulling up all the notes and let's we can we can make something up pj got married oh mazel toel Tov. Yeah, Mazel Tov. Yeah. Haven't heard a peep out of him. Congratulations.

I would be surprised if you did. Yeah, but that's good. That's good. And I'm cracking a LaCroix. Ooh. LaCroix. What flavor? Yeah.

I don't even know. What? Beach Plum. Beach Plum. Good flavor. PJ's on the beach. And yeah, we've had a little technical difficulties. We have a feeling that Trey's going to look foggy, and I'm going to be a little choppy.

But Jeff, we can't tell what T-shirt you're wearing as always, and so the show goes on. It's a Patagonia shirt. Ah, shocker. Shocker. One of two things. Patagonia or strength shirt. That's really all there is in life

true um well let's see Grant should we get an amateur lifting update first ooh sharp and sweet man zero no I got

I got some in on the weekend got a little well yeah I got some in on the weekend. Got those fives back. Got a little, well, yeah, I got a little squat action in, but other than that, man, nothing too exciting. Okay. But still grinding, trying to get it in when I can. Like I said, it's heading in the right direction. Hey, get in where you fit in.

Direction, not perfection. Those are the things I always say. Are you, you'd mentioned previous episode were you doing a a little fast uh not recently are you telling me do i look a little thick no i just thought you you asked steven garcia that i thought no i asked him that because he i forgot who gave him his like inspiration it was was either like Peter Atiyah, Sean Baker, or Rogan. But he got into fasting maybe like six months ago. Okay.

And we were interacting on X about it, formerly known as Twitter. And yeah, shout out Jack Dorsey, who apparently no longer has an X account. That's big news. But yeah, no, I haven't done a fast. I've been far from fasting. I just came back from the low country. The anti-fast. I've been eating shrimp and grits, baby.

Yeah, I did think about, you know, people have commented about the upstate of South Carolina. I thought about it, and know, people have commented about the upstate of South Carolina. I thought about it. And maybe Jeff has some thoughts on this because he's from Georgia, where Savannah is also the low country. And I almost feel like Savannah or low country. Because low country is not a real word. You pronounced Savannah wrong. How do you say Savannah?

Savannah. Oh, Savannahannah i thought you were gonna say savannah i remember when i sent um governor mcmaster a letter during 2020 for his uh thanks for his support of you know just keeping the state open for business. And he wrote me a letter and said, Mr. Brody, I seen what you've been doing out there with your gyms in California. And I do declare sometime when you come to South Carolina, let's have a glass of iced tea on my front porch. That's never happened, but I do have the last. I was about to say. You got to hold it in that.

Yeah. A glass of sweet tea. Yeah. I yeah i like it's just making up stories yeah no that's true that's true yeah oh okay yeah old governor mcmaster uh yeah my little brother or my nephew my brother my older brother and my little nephew uh met him recently and he said something like son college will be the best four years of your life you better enjoy it wow that's his voice he sounds exactly like colonel sanders dang i would i would vote for oh he's got hair that way is wavy and white yeah he's like the aristocrat i'm intrigued i could also say i could also see him saying like gentlemen in south carolina we

were the first to secession and we will be the first to the world's greatest sweet tea along those lines that should be have been his campaign slogan. But anyway, while Jeff looks him up, and I hope Jeff's laughing at his hair as he sees him. It's great. He sounds exactly like he looks. But I was down in the low country, and it's marshland. It's a bunch of islands down in Beaufort. Same thing in Savannah.

The lowest. It's a bunch of islands down in Beaufort. Same thing in Savannah. And I was like, this is why we call it the upstate, because you're not in swamp getting eaten by mosquitoes. So you're in the upper part of the state. Do you have an upstate in Georgia, Jeff? No, I've never really heard that kind of term thrown around as far as upstate, low country.

Even though, yeah, Savannah definitely is low country, same sort of geography and whatever you want to call it. Hydrography. Or whatever it's... Ooh, hydrography. Okay, okay. Patagonia. I don't know if I actually said that word right, but it's fine.

But Kennesaw Mountain's kind of the upstate. Yeah. And then if you go even further up into the Blue Ridge Mountains, shout out Fleet Foxes great song about that that's like kind of like the highest elevation as you kind of like start basically yeah like once you kind of hit atlanta ish and then keep going north in the mountains start to so i would think it'd be like where the chituga river comes and the only reason i know this because i'm a conservationist and the way i show my conservation is through fly fishing and there's a spot in south carolina where the toga river comes it's the border of south carolina north carolina and georgia so like

depending on where you're fishing what side of the bank you need a you need a license in all three and i think that's the probably the high high point of georgia probably probably close yeah is black mountain georgia black mountain where's stone mountain stone mountain stone mountain's outside of atlanta right yeah and there's like springer mountain which is like where the appalachian trail starts yeah stone mountain okay stone mountains outside of atlanta trey trivia i saw my first laser show at stone mountain oh nice where they lit up robert e lee and they played devil went down to georgia he was looking for uh that's all the steel oh yeah we should probably take us into our first main topic

that we've gotten in highly uh disputed debates on our uh slack list oh yeah so yeah that list was talking about like best country songs of all time this is just one person's opinion whoever wrote that article i don't think they're yeah but trey thought it was for the all americans saying this was the best whatever Trey took it really far took great consternation to that list I was pretty upset I was pretty

peeved I was throwing stuff at home what do you think like okay well why don't you take us to the list first yeah take us to the list so everyone can laugh at it together. Yeah. I mean, some of them.

Everyone. Loose term. You could swap out with something else. But let me pull it up here. Okay. Read the title. It is. What's the greatest country song ever made?

People have a great. Well, this is people have a clear answer, but it's like this one guy wrote it. Like, I don't know. I don't think he polled all the people out there. But yeah, it wasn't like the RNC DNC where the polls are accurate. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And not like the DNC.

Like they didn't, you know, democracy by not allowing people to vote for who the candidate would be. You know, no big deal. So spicy. I'm not going to get spicy. Like I did with Garcia last week, but quick segue. I'm home.

I'll just say it. My parents, they're definitely, they're into politics. They watched the RNC. And so I'm thinking I'm home. I have no idea the DNC is happening. It's my mother's birthday. I'm like, whatever you want to do. She's like, I want thinking I'm home. I have no idea the DNC is happening. It's my mother's birthday.

I'm like, whatever you want to do. She's like, I want to eat pizza downtown. I'm like, let's go downtown and eat pizza. She's like, no, I want ice cream. I'm like, let's go get ice cream. Go by the house and she's like, well, what do you want to do? I was like, I want to go off,

jump off the dock, pull a blue crab pot and cast for some shrimp like I did when I was 14. Like that's what I would do. She's like, let's go do that. We do that. And then like we're down there and she's like well we gotta get back to watch the dnc and i'm like you don't even like democrats and she's like yeah but we gotta see what they're gonna say oh no the enemy and so then they're all coming out like sun zoo democracy

and she's like yeah but you asked joe Joe Biden in a coup. And I'm like, actually, not that far off. Anyway. Just yelling at the TV. I love it. Just like that. Back to the regular scheduled programming.

That's our number one listener. We'll start at the bottom. We'll start with number 10. I always kind of dislike when they, so they listed number one first and then you scroll down to number 10. I hate that. They do reverse.

You want me to scroll down to the bottom, right? That's what you want. So a little critique there. So number 10, Mama Tried, Merle Haggard. Great song. Good song. that's high for me oh i lived it so you you i'm not gonna say it's the greatest but it's definitely high for me so okay okay you're saying you have it somewhere in your top 10 you know i thought you were saying like 10 that's a little high for that no no no no, no, no. I'm saying that's like, like I, like I actually often when my mother gets in my car,

I play that. I actually did that this weekend. Yes. Uh, that's very high for me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. And that's, that's one of the songs. Like if someone came in and said, I'm going to tell you the 10 best country songs and they said that I'd be like, well, okay, I get it.

Yeah. They didn't say it was the best, but they says top 10. I'm a fan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So far so good.

Okay. Moving on to number nine. Stand By Your Man, Tammy Wynette. Another classic. It's a classic. It's a classic. It's a great song. Trey, do you think that's top 10 worthy? I know you have strong

opinions. It's a good song. Again, I put it in the same category. If someone came in and was like, hey, stand by your man, I'd be like, okay. I'm like, I see where you're coming from. Okay. Yeah, she's funny.

She didn't really stand by any of her men. But good song. Maybe it's not autobiographical. I don't know. Yeah, good song. Okay. Do as as i say not as i do yeah trying to make this money wait i gotta say this list this list i'm okay with both so far okay there was one in particular yeah yeah honestly i feel like it starts as it gets higher in the list is that where I feel like it gets a little more confusing Number eight

The Gambler, Kenny Rogers I do love that song Again, good song, I don't know top ten But still good song We say top twenty Yeah, I would say so Top fifteen Top 10. Okay. Okay. We say top 20. Yeah, I would say so. Top 15.

I could see it. Yeah, I could see the argument. Top 12. Top 12. It's the 12th man. It's the top 12th man. The 12th man is Kenny Rogers, the gambler. Yeah.

Firmly a 12. I'll leave him there. Continue. Number seven spot belongs to two Johnny Cash songs. A Boy Named Sue and Folsom Prison Blues. I think that should be higher in my opinion.

Which one? Both of them? Folsom Prison Blues. I think Folsom Prison Blues beats out A Boy Named Sue. A Boy Named Sue. Yeah.

Well, what would you put higher? The Gambler or A Boy Named Sue? Boy Named Sue. I think I put The Gambler higher. Hey. Yeah, The Gambler's... I love that song. It's good. It's like that song. It's good.

It's like life advice. It really is. It really is. When to hold them, when to fold them. When to walk away, when to run. Never count your money. You're sitting at a table. All right, continue.

Okay, number six. A country boy can't hank williams jr no i don't think i don't think top 10 oh i like it i do like it in the top 10 i like it in the top 10 too i'm like okay this is the problem with this genre and so far with the era that we are selecting songs from. You give me this genre in this era. Can I call it outlaw country? I think every song has been outlaw country so far. Yeah.

You could also name five more songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're five deep from that genre. I'd be like, yeah, top 10. So I'm curious. I didn't actually click the link when you said it i just saw that trey got mad oh okay i was like all right i took it out of my list good yeah now this yeah this next one i think

this is where it starts i think to get a little squirrely uh i do like i do love this song but uh it's the the night the lights went out in georgia reba mcintyre reba mcintyre out right like top ten not good song good song i love it good song i have it on many many country playlists that i've made myself and the fact that the fact that it's above all the songs you've named thus far is offensive. What? Like above Johnny Cash. Any Johnny. I mean, not any Johnny Cash song, but like there's many, many, many Johnny Cash songs.

I would put today. Do you want to listen to Johnny hurt himself or? That's the night when I last found him, George. PJ would love this episode. All right. All right. Number four, uh,

friends in low places, Garth Brooks out. Yeah, it's, it is like, it's a, it's a good song,

but it, I don't know. I agree. It's an extremely popular song. I don't know if it's necessarily a good song. Karaoke song. Yeah. It's fun extremely popular song. I don't know if it's necessarily a good song. Karaoke song.

Yeah. It's fun. You had a few beers, you know, drinking and lifting is all you know. And then Garth Brooks comes on, friends in low places. I'm assuming that's going to be number one. I see. I'll put Garth Brooks. That song is probably the number one karaoke song.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel like anytime I've done karaoke, that song has been done. I would put that if, and we didn't even talk the parameters of this, I would put that as the number one fun country song. Well, no, actually, David Allen Coe, You Never Call Me By Your Name, is probably the number one fun country song. That better come up.

Ooh. No. Continue. We better come up. Ooh. No. Continue. We're running out of spots. Don't ruin it, Jake. I hate you. All right. Number three.

So busting into the top three greatest country songs of all time. By one random guy. According to this one random guy out of Georgia. On some website that I've never heard before. Right? I love the internet. Hot takes.com. Take Me Home, Country Roads, John Denver.

Not country. I would agree with that. Not a country. Great song, not country. Great song. Folk music. Folk music. He falls in line with Bob Dylan. Yeah. And a lot of

people don't know this, Great Pilot. Oh, yeah. Oh, never mind. Just one mistake. He only messed up once. Give the guy a break. That was number three.

That was number three. All right. This one is that was number three that was number three alright this one is gonna get Trey fired up number two courtesy of the red white and blue Toby Keith number two it's like

again another fun country song but like gets me amped up but so i love toby keith played a lot of his music always been to his bar in oklahoma with my brother in more oklahoma been there love him listened to him a lot this year when he died i wouldn't call that a country song. I'd call it a 9-11 song. I'm not saying it's not country twang, but I mean,

what was the Clint Black song that came out that year? I rack, I rock them up, and I roll. It was like, this song's terrible. No, that's a song. Clint Black. Iq iraq iraq iraq wait iraq i rock them up and i roll in the usa is the lyrics and like you listen to that you listen to that in october of 2001 and you're like let's go but like not a classic well again there's there's no it turns out that's number one no yeah you know what you know what that song reminds me of

the courtesy of red white and blue what's that is uh when strength code did a sale after uh wait i have i have something good for this. That's the number one country song. Hey. It worked. All right, moving on. Top spot. This one... Number one. It better be the song that I used to play for you on vinyl

all the time at our house in Carlsbad. Not in Sanitas. In Carlsbad. Not the place by Big Bad John's breakfast spot. The first spot. OG. El Camino Real. It better be that song. It's not that song. Do you know the song?

What song is he talking about? Wait, does Jeff know? He's talking about Carolina, I Remember You. Charlie Daniels. Great You. Charlie Daniels. Charles Bansby. Great song. Charlie Daniels, actually.

Wait, have you been on that other podcast yet that I filled out that questionnaire for? Thursday night, this week, Thursday. Well, we should plug him real quick since you brought it up. Podcast, lots of podcasts. Joe Rogan keeps asking me on. Everyone keeps asking me on. I will be on the, I'm going to mess this up. I always mess it up yeah podcast lots of podcasts joe rogan keeps asking me on everyone keeps asking me on i will be on the i'm gonna mess this up i always mess it up do you know the name for sure underpaid

and under underrated yeah i always i always get it wrong underpaid and underrated the sister podcast to the massonomics podcast i'll be on it thursday uh august 22nd i have no idea how i i know they're super organized by the way if they ever hit you up they hit up all your friends they make people fill out questionnaires they tell you about what lights you should have like we're okay and they are okay. Like they're really into it, which I love. Very underrated. Yeah. But yeah,

that's an overpaid. No, that's what I always say. I always say, I always say overpaid. Yeah. I haven't been on a podcast yet, but,

uh, okay. Wait real quick, real quick for Trey. That's the first things I remember are frosty Carolina mornings with a cheery fire crackling in my mama's big black wood cook stove. I feel like he've played this for me before. On vinyl. Diamonds. I remember when the biggest problems in my barefoot life were sand spurs and red ant hills.

I remember sitting with my granddaddy on the front porch and watching the last of that magnificent southern sun bleed away into the twilight sky. I remember Sunday school and kneeling at the cross and trying to imagine what Sunday dinner, short pants, haircuts, and a little puppy my daddy brought home to me. And I remember love. I remember steam puffing, fire breathing, awesome tent wheel locomotives. And the conductor's watch looked as big as one of my grandmother's biscuits. I remember my mother smiling in a red and white checkered dress.

And Christmas always seemed so far away. Yes, I remember you, Carolina, grand old lady of the south. I remember you as home. You wouldn't get it being from Texas, Trey. Yeah, no. I've never heard a song about Texas.

And it just turns out that the song that's number one is about Texas. Amarillo by Morning, George Strait. Man. Okay, my quick hot take without thinking of it. And this is a guy that's not a Texas fan. Okay. I would vote Take Me to Texas higher than Amarillo by Morning

because there's so much soul in that song that George Strait didn't write. But he's like, you know what? When I die, and he sings it. He's like, take me to Texas. I mean, sometimes when I listen to his concert, I'm like, I'm not like, I'm a fan of George Strait, but I'm like, I got my, like, I have my beefs with Texas. I also love a lot of Texas stuff, but I'm like, you know what? I'm okay if you bury me there. Take me to Texas. I'm a child of the Alamo.

Take me there. I'm definitely a child of the Alamo now. You took it away from my wife and then take me to Texas. That's where my family's from. I love it. How do you feel about that number one song, Trey? That's where my family's from. All right. So how do you feel about that number one song, Trey?

I don't think it's the best country song. What would you put there? The greatest country song. I think... I like Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain. Oof, yes. That's a good one. Yeah, there's no Willie Nelson on this list. Zero Willie Nelson.

No Waylon Jennings. No Waylon Jennings. Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys. It'd be really high for me. I like Mount Matride in there. Yeah, I do agree with that. Great song. All right, so we can all agree, Riva's out. Definitely. I like Mount Matride in there yeah I do agree with that great song alright so we can all agree

Reba's out definitely 100% Toby Keith I'd also agree Toby's out love him John Denver

R.I.P. R.I.P. so we gotta introduce three new songs what about Garth Brooks Friends in Low Places oh get out of here

I think Toby Keith would agree with not being yes he'd be rolling his green i mean i actually think if you're going to put toby keith on that list i think his best song is i should have been a cowboy that's a good one I think his best song is I Should Have Been a Cowboy. That's a good one.

I think it's his best song. I would agree with that. Reba, that was her best song, but get out of here. I do like that we gave Tammy a shot. I was watching the DNC last night, and Joe Biden said that women don't have access to electricity anymore, so I'm glad Tammy had a microphone back in the day. I don't let Kaylee use any electricity.

Yeah, I'd be sitting in the dark at home right now. Wait, speaking of electricity and keeping the lights on, we don't have a guest this week. It's just three of us. So quick shout out to our sponsor, BW Tax. He actually does keep the lights on for us. Saw him today. He's like, who's the guest tonight? I was like, no guest.

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Okay. I got a place to go. That's a good one. Jolene's got... I got a place to go right from here. Post Malone. Oh, yeah. What about him?

He's number one. Okay. okay so i knew he's released country album no and he even so i want to talk about that so i heard the song with stapleton uh it's called like california hangover or california hillbilly or california high or california dui it's something something along those lines and then someone said to me like post malone released a country album so we're driving from the upstate to the low country my wife's asleep pregnant obviously and i'm like i want to see this album so i look it up on my car and the picture pops up and it's a square body ford but you know fixture appeared daily but it's up on end on like a like a bed of ice like a lake frozen okay oh it's actually a pretty

good picture so i click on it i'm like you know what she's asleep i gotta drive for two hours i'm just gonna listen to it start to finish well but first i click on it. Chris Stapleton, Brad Paisley, Dolly Parton, Laney Wilson. I need to pull this up so I don't mess it up. Lou Combs. Lou Combs. Lou Combs, who I never liked, but since marrying my wife, I was like, you know what? Country's coming back.

He's pretty good. I'm just going to pull it up. Hang on. God, PG's pretty good. I'm just going to pull it up. Hang on. God, PG is just crushing me right now. All right. Tim McGraw, Hank Williams Jr., Morgan Whalen. Sucks. Blake Shelton, Dolly Parton.

One on his own. Brad Paisley, Luke Combs, Laney Wilson. Jelly Roll. Sucks. Ernest. Never heard of you. Sierra Farrell. Never heard of you. Luke Combs, like Sierra Farrell is really good.

Sierra Farrell is really good. She's country? I've never heard of her. Yeah, she's like... I actually like the song. I actually liked the song. Yeah, she's super good. Chris Stapleton, Hardy? Don't know him. Have you ever heard of Hardy? Never heard of Hardy.

Another one by himself, Mexico featuring Billy Strings. Yeah, super good. Yeah, he's good. That's a great song, and not just because I'm half Mexican. And then yours, which made me cry a lot, because it's about his baby daughter being born. His daughter, yeah. I've heard that one.

Yeah, it's actually a really good song. I actually sent it to a lot of people. But so I listened to the album there's a couple songs in there that i would call country most of it i wouldn't but i wouldn't call them not country it's like very poppy country yeah it's very poppy but it was good and then my wife like so she wakes up i'm like i've been crying for like 30 minutes i gotta play you this your song so i play it for it and then she's like do you know like post malone is i was like i know he has a lot of tattoos and dances and sings with morgan whalen and morgan whalen that's him yeah

and she's like no he wanted to like go into rock and roll and no one would sign him so he was like well where were people sign me? And whoever's handlers were, that's what we call them in powerlifting. I don't know what you call them in music. They were like, you should rap. So he rapped, got a name. I couldn't name you one of his rap songs. Maybe you guys can call my bluff there and say I would know one of them.

You would. I don't know the names of them, but you would like, you'd be like, oh, I've heard this song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. And then he was like, got big and was like okay now i'm gonna sing country and i gotta say i'm not saying it's the greatest country music ever but like in terms of you're driving down the interstate listen to music it's a good album like it is a good album and the hank williams jr song is good this d Tableton song is my favorite and because it's about California, which I like the your song is like by far my

favorite but yeah, it's good. He's got some good like he's super talented. Yeah, he's got like some good country covers like you know over like the last seven years on YouTube like some Sturgill Simpson. I know it's a big one. Yeah. Sturgill. Love that guy. He's good. He's always smoking a cigarette and drinking a Bud Light when he's playing. This guy just has fun. Lives in Utah.

That's where creativity comes from. Cigarettes and Bud Light. I actually saw a meme today that I sent to someone and it was like quitting vaping is so easy and it was a picture of a Parliament light and a budweiser now that was really funny dude have we exhausted music we're big music podcast

any jack white updates i got nothing else on music okay all. All right. I was on Pitchfork the other day. Jeff, tell me what I saw. Oh, on Pitchfork, it was a review of Jack White's album, No Name. And it was just like- What ranking did he get? He got a 7.6, which I feel like is okay for- Pitchfork is very high and mighty. Snooty. Yeah, they're very like-

But what really irked me was they were very dismissive, all the stuff he did with the White Stripes. They're like, what seemed like this very authentic, like free kind of like, you know, cool guy persona was actually like this very calculated, like, you know, act that he was putting on. It's like, well, yeah, it was, but it was really good. I don't know. They're just very dismissive of the white stripes. I don't like that. And in respect to little Debbie, I have a lot of problems with that. But I do want to ask about the scoring system because I don't know pitchfork. Someone, no, I got that part. But I want to put a correlation to it. So yeah, I'm going there, but I want to stop somewhere. I want to stop at BW Tax first. I told BW Tax, I was like, hey, the instigators on Apple TV.

Hilarious. I'm like, I love it. The first 15 minutes is just a roast of the town. Like they're like trying to rob someone. And they're like, you know, In the town, they're like, the driver's name is Arthur Shea. Five foot eight. Every morning, he cracks the Boston Herald while his partner opens up the back of the truck or whatever they say. And so they spoof off of that. It was hilarious. And so I was like, dude,

I'm like, this movie is hilarious. And he just sends me back a screenshot of Rotten Tomatoes and they're like 44 percent and I'm like is that bad and he's like and he and he writes back yes but who cares if you enjoyed it and that's why I love BW because it's like if you like your tax return and you won over on the government you know who cares um true you gotta you gotta do the the audience score in Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, I don't know. I don't even know what a Rotten... I mean, I know what a Rotten Tomato is.

I picked him as a kid, but I don't... So Rotten Tomatoes, before we get into Pitchfork score, Rotten Tomatoes... And before we go to Dave Portnoy. Yeah, before we go to Dave Portnoy. Rotten Tomatoes has a critic score, which is the 44%, but then they also have the audience score. So recently, if it's a low critic score, it's usually been a pretty high audience score.

So should you go to regional, like if you go to the Northeast and see what that audience score is? And then Grant, I don't think it's Rotten Tomatoes. I don't know if they're that sophisticated. I mean, Rotten Tomatoes are grown in the South. Yeah, true. Yeah. the south and yeah true yeah so um no 7.60 portnoy let's take it to a pizza review i just watched one today he's on the jersey boardwalk i saw that one too yeah so he does one and it's a 6.9 which is like kind of bad yeah nice it's nice but like's like decent. And then he goes over and he goes, he asked the guy, the guy comes out to him while he's there.

He's like, are you open late? And the guy's like, yeah, I'm open late. He's like, if you're open late, it's not great. He goes, that doesn't apply to us. So he eats the pizza and he's like, I really don't want to put it in the sevens. And, but like, he'll never do a 0.0, but he thought it was better than the place he had just gone to, a 6.9,

so he went 7.1. But the real important thing is if you cross eights, you're allowed to drive at least 30 minutes to go get it. So 7.6, is that like on Pitchfork, which I've never heard of? Is that like, hey, it's decent? I would say average. It's not worth – yeah. It's kind of average.

Hey, it's decent. I would say average. It's not worth. Yeah. It's kind of average. It's pretty. I would liken it to Dave Portnoy's Pizza Scale. And then like 7.6.

Not bad. Not bad. But like. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it. Yeah. But I think it's better than 7.6. I mean, I would.

I would. I would look up the ranking for which Jack White's best album, do you think? Well, technically, it's the one that they played in Germany in an amphitheater that the recording they lost, but the way the sound reverbed off of it. And there was one recording, but it was taken by someone and they flew it back to Detroit and they found his old co-worker

and it's currently inside of a couch somewhere in America and we don't know where it is. That's the best recording. Outside of that, I'm always going to go thinking about my doorbell, that album. Get Behind Me, Satan. It's a great album. Are you saying Jack White solo album or any Jack White like project? I mean, there's the weather's the rack on tours. So here's the thing. I guess the pitchfork just doesn't like Jack.

Well, I don't think they do. So get behind, get behind me. Satan 7.3. Ooh, that's rough. Which I,

yeah, I think that's silly. That is silly. So I Toby Keith would agree with that. Yeah, dead Toby Keith would agree. This is a music episode. Yeah, we have to get off of music ASAP. Get off of music.

Jeff, next slide. Let's see. Not music related at all. Grant, you had a starting strength camp that you ran in South Carolina. Can you explain what goes into one of these camps and then how it went? Yeah, I had a squat and deadlift camp. Are people coming in for that? Yeah.

Pretty far? Yeah, so it's super interesting. So if we do – we just did a camp in Costa Mesa the same day. We did one in Greenville recently and if it's like low price point hey come and learn how to lift the you know it's whatever but if you're like this is a starting strength camp I didn't have a single person from Greenville we had Atlanta Tennessee I forget the town Augusta georgia charlotte uh columbia south carolina they kept them at eight um i'm forgetting some cities but anyway yeah so we sold it out one person couldn't come

i think we had seven lifters and it's just funny whenever you do a starting strength camp because like in in california the same day that i camp with 22 people which makes sense it's 50 we tell the the the gym members like hey invite your friends and we get some starting strength people to that those because they find out like there was people from san francisco and like uh that's pretty cool las vegas no it is cool but i'm always like you're gonna be're going to be let down. Like this is one hour. No, no, no, no. You're going to get great coaching. I just mean, this is like one hour. This is designed for like, Abby doesn't lift. Yeah. Trey's like, Hey, my gym is offering this thing. But some of the people that want a starting strength thing, they're like, Whoa, starting strength coach for $50, which is great. And they, they got great coaching. Um, but it's just funny. Cause like in

those things, you see women, you see old men, you see kids, cause it'll be like a dad and he'll be like, Oh, my son to come. Like I'll put him in. Whereas I get a starting strength camp, you see 40 to 60 year old males and they love Markoteau, and that's all you see. And it's great. It's fantastic. And they're all lifting. I had three Army guys. Everyone was fantastic.

It's just funny. When you do it, I mean, of course you do. It's a Starting Strength Camp. It's $300 for a five-hour session. Of course, that's what they're going to pay for but it's just funny the demographic and there's like usually there's one woman but there was none in this and it's like i i'd messaged him because at the gym here in greenville in the upstate there was a like craft party in the complex, like an indie craft parade, it was called. Sounds right.

It was like a festival. For climbing, Jim. Yeah, for climbing. Yeah, it was like a festival. And so I was like, hey, parking's going to be tough. We were starting at 10. And I was like, this is the diagram of the parking blocked off for us. Like when you come in, make sure you tell them you're going to the strength co,

otherwise you're going to get charged. And so I walked in at 930 to meet the camera guy to set up. And all of them were like in the cafe. And of course, the army guy was like, oh, of course, the Marine is late. And I'm like, sorry, I'm 30 minutes early. But they'd all arrived earlier to avoid traffic. But yeah, it was. Yeah, it was, yeah, that gate traffic, that drill traffic. But no, it was, it was, it was, it was an awesome camp.

We have a YouTube video by the time this launches. We'll actually have three of them out showing it. And it's just cool. Like seeing people that it's just a good mix. Like, you know, we had two guys that never lifted, but had bought the book. And we're like, I don't know what to do. But they were in the Southeast. And so they came. And those people, no offense to the other people, but they're always my favorite. Because you're like... I always tell people, I'm going to pretend you know nothing. And everyone's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like,

this is a power rack. These are J hooks. This is a barbell. This rough stuff's called knurling. It's always fun when you have a couple of people that are like, Oh, I knew none of this. Actually like see these hash marks.

This one's for Olympic lifting. This one's for power lifting. And they're like, Oh. And so those guys, everyone made a lot of progress. Um, but yeah, it was, it was a goodlifting. And they're like, oh. And so those guys, everyone made a lot of progress. But yeah, it was a good camp. And yeah, we're doing another one on October 5th in Charlotte

at a CrossFit gym, no less. And it launched. We released it on Monday. There's 12 spots. I think we sold six in the first three days. So not to sound like an internet guy, oh, there's only so many spots left. But that is one thing that Ripito actually does good. And I don't mean like him

personally coaching, but he will not let you... Because I would make the argument to Mark like, hey, give me 15 people in five hours. I can teach them all to lift your method. But he's like, nope. nope there's one coach there's eight lifters if there's two coaches there's 12 lifters and we'll be like well it's sold out in a month in advance can we add a third coach nope and but it's kind of what makes it you know pretty cool uh exclusive yeah it's it's it's of all like there's all the memes mass and i was does a great job on the memes like five spots left four spots left actually all the spots. Mastinavis does a great job on the memes. Like five spots left, four spots left. Actually, all the spots are left

and it's like great. But like actually in starting strength, there's actually only so many spots. And what's funny is like if you buy and can't go, they're like too bad. And people are like, well, I'm in the Southeast.

Can I go to this one? They're like, nope. Les Ripeto is like, if you buy a ticket to Bruce Springsteen and you don't go, guess what? Bruce Springsteen still plays. Sound logic. He's not wrong. He's not wrong.

I couldn't make a Bruce Springsteen concert one time. He goes, I can't play. He postponed. Yeah, he postponed. One time, I couldn't make a Bruce Springsteen concert one time. He goes, I can't play guys. He postponed. Yeah, he postponed. So it sounds like you like the guys who come in, and you can kind of mold them. Like you said, you just act like they don't know a ton. Now, on the inverse of that,

can you spot a high school football lifter immediately? Yeah, I can spot a high. Yeah. Yes, I can. But those people I would also say don't know a ton. Right. I've actually put them in the same camp. The problem is if you saw a high school lifting coach, but the cool thing about starting strength seminars versus like what the guys, so all four of my starting strength coaches were coaching 22 people on Saturday is you have a mixed bag over there.

You have some people that know what starting strength is and they basically want what I'm providing. Like Mark Ripperdot is gospel, but then you have half of the people that are like, I don't know why I'm here. Like I'm Trey's wife. And he said, go to this thing. Go to this, yeah. Right? And so it's interesting.

So it's kind of fun at a starting strength camp either way because everyone's already bought in. They already are like, I want a low bar squat. And they'll tell you why they can't, which are real issues usually. But they've already thought. They're already bought in. It's like going to, I don't know. It's like going to a missions conference versus a revival.

You go to a missions conference, everyone's like, we need to reach the world for God's truth. You go to revival, it's like, my dad drugged me here because I've been smoking cigarettes in the backyard and he thinks I need this, right? Thanks for putting it into terms, I understand. Yeah, I need i need to put in southern terms even though you're from texas but uh but no it's like it's like kind of two different things but no it was yeah it was it was a good camp those are always fun um and it's cool now like to put the business spin on it now is that like i used

to teach these camps and that was it and now i'm'm like, Hey, I'm going to show up to the camp. I'm going to have t-shirts to sell. I'm going to invite them to the Slack channel. Links in the show notes. I'm going to offer them online coaching. We're going to film the whole thing and make five, six YouTube videos. And I was thinking about that Saturday because I was like, wow, I've done a lot of these camps and only the last year and a half have I made it worth more than the money that day. I was just thinking about that business-wise. And I was telling Diane, I was like, hey, show up at 2.15. Everyone looks like they're between a large and a 3XL. Of course, they're starting strength people.

But she did. And everyone got a t-shirt. Everyone's super cool. And what's also cool about starting strength camp is like... Connor was telling me because he was in California. And he was like, yeah, no, everything went great. It was a great camp. People bought this, people bought that. He's like, but there's always that job of like, I can tell these people don't know what's happening and these people are here for a specific thing. Whereas like when I walked in at nine 30, 30 minutes before it started, everyone was best friends.

They were like, did you listen to rip a toes last podcast? And I was like, hell yeah, brother. And like, there's a plan. Dim it coming.

Um, but it's cool. It's cool. So anyway, yeah, good camp. Success. And when's the next one? Say it one more time. October 5th in Charlotte at CrossFit

Mecklenburg. I'll be teaching it with Nick Delgadillo. One spot available. I haven't looked today, but I got a message from the Repito team yesterday that was like, we posted this and six spots sold. But what was funny is the two guys that had never lifted and one guy that was a big fan. I mean, they were all big fans, but they were like, hey, when can we keep coaching again?

And I was like, well, the next thing we're doing, they're like, oh, when can we keep coaching again? And I was like, well, like the next thing we're doing, they're like, Oh, we're buying it. Is the link out. And so I haven't looked at the names to see if they match, but a lot of them are probably coming again,

which is cool. Which is great. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of being powered by the strength co, uh,

Trey had a question. Real quick. I, I gotta tell, I gotta tell one more thing about this so we went to church sunday and um we talked to this girl here that runs like the welcoming thing and like on the way out diane and i ran into her we're talking to her like oh what'd you do this weekend she was like i was at the indie craft parade i was like oh we were in a camp there

and she's like of crafts i thought you were like lifting i was like, oh, we were in a camp there. And she's like, of crafts? I thought you were like lifting. I was like, no, no, no. Like in the complex, we had a lifting thing. And she's like, oh, I was like, when did you get there? She's like nine. I was like, yeah, parking was crazy. Right. She's like, when did you start? I was like, I started at 10 and we went from like 10 to three and her mind just like exploded. She's like like you made people work out for five hours i was like well there's like instruction and stuff she's like yeah five hours and i was like well yeah it's not like they're working out she's like you put them through it's like she couldn't wrap her mind around like people trying to understand a theory it was it was just that's

good anyway she signed up yeah yeah yeah she's good people yeah she's she's in yeah there's only actually one spot left she just text me wow next slide wow all right yeah we're powered by the strength co trey had a question um related to the plates do you want to ask that trade or you want me to read it out of the slack oh read out slack all right all right trace question do it for me uh yeah and i kind of had a follow-on question for this uh how long even better do plates last for when do you know to buy new ones and then best practices for maintaining equipment and i guess i'll preface that first part with i know it's however much you use them like it's going to depend obviously when do you buy new ones that's the preface for that question

how long they last oh how long the last yeah i mean it's like how longer tires how many tires last for feature not bug the cast iron plates aren't a aren. Honestly, they'll last forever. Buy nice, don't buy twice. We are more expensive. The answer to that question is you need to get stronger, so you need more. But actually, the plates... Someone was asking me this recently about rust.

And I was like, I have seen rust on our plates see him in two places see in Houston hmm a gym that's now closed but it was on the Gulf checks out there was no AC and it was called everyone got tennis close down I can't stop laughing no but the place was open air I went there three years after the plates had been there and there was topical rust so e-coat won't rust on the surface

but it could rust on the or won't rust on the surface, but it could rust on the, on the, or it won't rust on the, underneath the surface. It could, what do you call it? The core. But it will, it could rust on the surface. So I saw some rust there and it was like, not like, you know, I have a pair of plates when we were kind of researching pig iron and doing this thing for CT Fletcher. A guy sent me a set of plates i got them they look great somehow they ended up on my porch um i love my wife but somehow they ended up on my porch and then one day i looked out the window and i was like oh those are rusted now

because they were like bare iron uh so they won't do that where the whole thing is but you'll get like surface spots and they're generally where people touched them a lot it needs to be a really humid area and i would make the argument you don't need to buy new plates if that happens um you could just get like a little bit of three-in-one oil on a rag and probably just what wipe it off on top of E-code, it's just going to be topical. Yeah. What was the second question? When would you know to buy new ones? Oh, I mean, the real answer is, and this is bad for business,

if you own old cast iron plates, they can all... Cast iron can be cast iron. My uncle sent me a cauldron for me to make chicken bog. We can cover that in a future episode. And it was like a rusted mess. And I did like a whole thing with a wool brush and oil and cleaned it and then oiled it and then baked it. And like, it looks like brand new. Um, it's like, you can can always clean up that stuff. The only caveat I would give is bumpers, especially in CrossFit gyms, can break down. The ones we use, we use 303 stainless steel. It's put in with 7,000 pounds of pressure so the inner hub doesn't die. But if you're dropping them on a concrete driveway like constantly like recycled rubber is

gonna wear yeah um so it's like if you're starting to see and we've seen in the marine corps like you go to like a marine corps gym like you see chunks out of it and stuff and it says it's 45 pounds but you like see pieces missing you're like yeah probably not 45 pounds anymore uh but with our plates i mean honestly if you lived in a really humid area and there was surface rust which i've only seen twice the other place was in boston um you could clean it but if you really didn't want to clean it like it's fine like the weight is still the the same weight um you know yeah but what about bar maintenance yeah bar maintenance i i want to do a video at my mom's gym so i went while i was home in the low country i worked out my mom's gym

and they have the original rogue bnr bar that i bought them and then my mom has since bought when i want to do a gym tour with her i didn't do it this time because it was her birthday. And I want to like stuff a camera in her face. But like what I appreciate is she buys everything. Right. So like I went to work out in there and I was like, there are so many strength co flags in here. And there are so many American flags in here.

And she bought them all for me. And one of the things that's funny is she has like the Gatson yellow or melted iron. We call it yellow flag. And we had a run of those where they printed it and they folded it too soon. And so when the black hit the yellow and people unfolded, it was blue. And we probably had like 15 customers complain. Like, hey, there's stains on my flag.

And we replaced them. But I walk in and my mom has the stains. Of course, she didn't complain, right? And I'm looking at all the stuff she's bought. The Semper Fi bar, the curl bar, bumpers, 35s. I had actually never gotten to lift with 35s, our 35s, until this weekend. I was like, this is actually pretty cool.

So she had everything. But I'm looking at my dad's Rogue B&R bar. They live in the low country, high humidity, and it's rusted to crap. And my mom was like, yeah, I don't like your dad's bar. It's full of rust. That's why I bought that one and I bought the Audrey bar and I bought this bar. And I'm like, yeah, no, I get it. And my dad's like, well, what could I do to that thing?

I was like, well, we could go out there right now with three with three in one oil and like a wool brush on a drill head and like in an hour we could have that thing clean he's like but how long would it take to rust again it's like right now in august in south carolina like a month he's like so what would i have to do i was like you'd have to wipe that thing down and bust rust he's like well why are all your bars look great? I was like, well, some people like that act. Some people enjoy changing their own oil. I was like, I don't. When I'm in the gym, I want to lift. I don't want to maintain equipment. So Ripito, and I disagree on this, he loves bare steel. He does bare steel with everything because he likes the way it turns colors. And he's like, yep, you have to have to do maintenance i'm like i don't want to do maintenance

like i want to like put oil in the bushings at the end of the barbell once a year and that's it like i don't want to do anything um do you don't have any bare steel though do you try no yeah you're good unless you just started making something right now but no i could i've actually had people request that. Can I buy your bar but with no coating? I'm like, no. You sound like a problem.

I got tenders. Yeah. Rusty's gym. I love Rusty's gym down there in Houston. I'll see you there after the Red River shootout. Have you ever seen anything like crazy happen to strength coat plates? Like somebody do something like, you know,

probably user error or something like that. They're like my plate broken half. The only thing I've seen, I've never seen anything with our cast iron. I've never seen like, and I'm not lying. I've never seen anything with our cast iron. I've never seen like, and I'm not lying. I've never seen anything weird. The only thing I've ever seen with our cast iron is when we first started machining,

like maybe the first two years, I was like 1.99 inter diameter plus or minus two. And so we, we do some 1.97. So the, that's the, the opening of the of the of the plate the industry standard for a barbell is 1.95 what i learned is that like china and even some companies have already said at once now i can say it like rogue the ohio bar is notoriously out of tolerance um they'll have a plate that won't fit okay so i i finally told

my machine shop i'm like can we just go 1.99 and plus and the machine shop we ended up with after a few years they're like yeah and they nail it so we never have a place that don't fit but the one problem i've had is if someone has like a you know like a dick sporting good bar yeah or like something that's not not made to spit spec their their plate won't fit on um or occasionally they'll buy like a leg press machine or like some type of storage rack oh gotcha and those companies will make them at two inches yeah and at this point like i don't replace that like hey man our plates are made for barbells. You bought a Chinese storage rack.

Not my fault. I sell storage racks. Yeah, exactly. There's a link to the storage rack. They're a lot smarter than those. But no, I've never seen anything. The only other thing I would say is our bumper 10s. I've had a few people complain. I think we've sold like 80,000 pounds of those now.

And I've had people complain that they're flimsy and i'm always like send me a photo and and don't get me wrong bumper tens are flimsy bumper tens just we are no one makes a good one it's a great one and then they'll have an iron 25 on top of it and i'm like yeah well yeah that's not gonna work um but we are one thing we're just doing and it's gonna launch probably like september one is the 45s we're 3.2 inches thick like pretty thick and we're now so it's recycled rubber with a urethane mix that and that's what it's been but now we insert a buckshot so the new ones will be two inches thick um so they'll be not like half the size but whatever that percentage is yeah that's a significant yeah it's a significant so the bounce rate will go down

significantly nice and it's uh more compact so yeah that'd be cool but no i've never honestly like i've never had any of our products like fail on our collars there's one plastic point when you clamp it and if you clamp it a whole bunch the plastic part wears out okay people will be like people like it's not tight anymore so we send them a new hex nut screw we're like hey it's a dollar for a new hex nut screw they screw unscrew the one they have screw in the one the new one like that's the only wear point yeah but like no i mean i feel like we've tried hard to make sure that stuff won't so yeah so to sum it up the only time someone will need to buy new plates is today when they've lifted all the ones that they have.

Yeah, exactly. Thanks, Trey, for bringing that down to front landing. Yeah, you're welcome. Love it. Good. Interesting. Just remember, I have a slide that'll be a shocker slide. Shocker slide.

It'll take probably five minutes by each person, Jeff. Just remember that. I'm going to try to pull up the Slack questions or questions from the Slack. Oh, yeah, we should do a few of those. Actually, we have some good ones. We're there. Yeah, we're there.

No, there were some good ones in there. There were some good ones in there. Yeah, quick plug for the- We love the interaction. Quick plug for the Strength Co. Slack. If you're a listener, but you're not a member of the Slack, go ahead, check the show notes below on YouTube here. You'll see a link.

There's some sort of discount, if I'm not mistaken. Discount, okay. And you can get in there, talk with a bunch of lifters, talk about music, books, movies, form checks. You can post get in there, talk with a bunch of lifters, talk about music, books, movies, form checks. You can post videos in there, talk with other people about your adult beverages, your coffee habits. And then occasionally we'll post questions from the Slack thing in there. So we'll get members of the Slack to put their questions that they want to have answered from the podcast here and then we'll we'll jump into those um so let me pull it up i just had it i got it he's got it

um oh yeah good one this is uh brian i don't know if it's, is it Channel? Maybe we'll call it Channel. Two N's, two L's. I'm going to say Chanel. He was at our camp this weekend, but I don't know. All I know is every time I try to tag the Channel, his name comes up. It's Brian Channel. Brian Channel. All right.

Brian Channel. So we've got his question. All right. He Channel. So we've got his question. All right. He's currently sick. And so he wants to know your thoughts on training when you're dealing with, you know, some sort of illness, whether it be a cold, the flu, maybe something stomach related. Are there different ways to navigate the kind of different ailments that we might have while we're doing our training? Trey, you want to give the amateur lifting answer first? I feel like, yeah, I feel like,

I think we talked about this maybe like on the first couple episodes. It's okay. Only my mom's been listening since then. Yeah, I was about to say, only Ms. Brogy knows the answer. And if I remember correctly, and if I was going to take a stab at this,

I would say that training continues unless you're running a fever or throwing up. Our most popular video, three times in a row. Really? We've posted that same reel three times in a row from one of our camps, and the opening line is, the only time you don't

train is when you have a fever and then like a thermometer like pops up on the screen and every time we've posted we've gotten in the millions of views but that's that's my thought if you have a head cold and you're not running a fever go lift also don't expect to like go up five pounds from the last time, but you should go do something. You have the sniffles. Um, you know, if you have something weird, if you have a fever and you're throwing up, don't touch it. And I always give the example. I did this one time I was training for a meet. Everything was going well. I got sick. I got a fever. My fever was down at 99.1. And I was like, I'm good. I haven't trained in.1 and I was like I'm good I haven't trained in six days I need to go lift

I went and did 5x5 squats boom 102 so don't mess with it with a fever outside of that like you have a cough you know I wouldn't train to the point where like you're bringing on bronchitis

but like you know if on bronchitis, but like, you know, if it's not, what is it? A virus that causes a fever? Like if it's not, if it's not a stomach virus or like a fever, like I think you just train,

uh, like if you're like, Oh, a head cold's coming on, go into the gym. And like the gym will tell you, that's the good thing is like, it'll tell you like,

Oh, I should probably stop. And I knew that the day I squatted five by five with a fever. I did it and my body was hot. I was drinking so much water, but I'm like, got a meat coming up. Got to do it. And I didn't bring it back on. There's something with the stress that with a fever stops the recovery.

But outside of that, good training. Now, would you – and I think you touched on this. Let's say you do have a fever and you're trying to get back into it. That next one, you're not hopping straight back into your linear progression. Are you easing back into it? Yeah, you're easing back in. If you had a fever, I would not go touch the weights until the fever's gone. And I would probably, the day the fever's gone, just go for a walk, maybe a brisk walk. Because if you still have a little bit of a virus in you, even that'll get it going.

And then if you go for a brisk walk the day you think your fever's gone and you're fine. Yeah, I'd do the same thing. Like the video we have, how to start starting strength. Like go with an empty bar, squat that, add a little bit of weight, squat that, feel good, add a little bit of weight and like go up to something like kind of hard and stop. And then, you know, the next time be like be like okay i squatted whatever 205 for five last time let me go try to do that for 205 for three sets of five but if this is two days later and now you're four days removed from your fever and you were squatting 275 beforehand maybe you

go in and you're like 205 is way too easy but you'll know like you'll know but go in on the conserve coming off a fever i would definitely go in off of the like conservative approach your first one to two sessions back if you got diarrhea be careful you got diarrhea just Just wear good shorts. That's what I always say. Straight to diarrhea shorts. Coming soon. Coming soon. All right. Good job, Mr. Channel.

Yeah. Next question comes from- Big Volunteers fan, by the way. He's like really excited about the Sports Channel. Talk Vols. The real UT. I like it. Nice. Nice. Next question comes. I like it. Nice.

Next question comes from Garrett Lyon. Do we know anything about Garrett? Long-time gym member. Ooh, okay. Long-time gym member, Costa Mesa. Big, active guy on the cocktail thread. Love that. Hope he takes that as a compliment. His question, right?

Lifting well. I'm worried about you. This is actually an intervention, Garrett. You're making a lot of posts in the cocktail're good brother keep posting we love it we love it but garrett's question lifting while in physical therapy is this a good idea have you guys both in the physical therapy i don't want to come off as the expert but jeff what what do you think uh if you're if your physical therapist is telling you to stop lifting you should probably find a different physical therapist i think um yeah there's definitely

i mean just kind of depending on what it is like if your leg's broken and you're rehabbing that like it may look a little different. Don't squat. But they should be working in some sort of plan that keeps you moving in some form or fashion in the gym, whether it's lifting or if you're a crossfitter or a runner or whatever it is. And yeah, hopefully like at your physical therapy facility, there's a rack and there's a barbell and there's plates. And they're like, they want to keep you training, keep you moving. Whether to say, we're just modifying the range of motion, we're modifying the load, whatever it is. That's sort of things you should be looking for. I think when you walk into a physical therapy office or if you're shopping around for one on the Internet, look at pictures, kind of see what their setup is.

It should look a lot like a gym. Trey, you're in your mid thirties. You got any thoughts on physical therapy? You must've been at least once. Man, I'll be honest with you. I,

I don't think you only know, you only know lifting and drinking. That's it. No, I'd say, I'd say Jeff spot on. I mean mean i like one if you're if your physical therapist isn't trying to get you to move i think that's a problem right like i think they and not just like they shouldn't like i'm not saying stems are bad i'm not saying cupping's bad i'm not saying uh

racquetballs stuffed in your butt cheeks bad it It's weird, but it's not bad. But like, like those things can sometimes help. I often think they're placebo effect, but I think the placebo effect is real. But I think your physical therapist should be trying to get you to move. And I don't like, and this is maybe gym owner in me. It's like, Hey, I hurt my back. I went and saw my physical therapist. They told me not to lift for six weeks. And I just always go in like basic stuff.

Like, hey, okay, so you're in physical therapy. Have you gone grocery shopping this week? Yeah, I went to Costco yesterday. How'd you get all that stuff in? I parked in the garage and I picked it up out of the back of the car and I carried it in. Was there like boxes full of steak hopefully and not like Beyond Burgers? Yeah, there was. So you picked those up and you walked them in? Yeah, I did. And I'm like, okay, so like at a minimum, do you not think you can come in here and squat an empty bar? And the answer is often, and it's usually like kind of pride related. It's like, well, yeah, but I was squatting 275.

Why would I come squat an empty bar? I'm like, well, because squatting empty bar, doing that movement may be the very thing that gets you back to squatting 275. And then I asked the question that Jeff says is like, is your physical therapist making you do full body range of motion movements? Because like, let's just think about it. I don't know. You hurt your piriformis. Like your piriformis is driving you nuts. Your sciatica.

Like how much damage can deadlifting 65 off the ground do to that? How much damage can squatting 45 pounds do to it? Probably not much. And like maybe those full body range of motions make it feel better. So yeah, I mean, yes, you can lift when you're in physical therapy. And I'm with Jeff.

If your physical therapist is telling you don't lift, it's not even, don't think of it as lift. Don't think of it as like deadlifting 315. Think of it as full range of motion, loaded movement. And I don't care if it's 45 pounds, if it's 95 pounds, but like you should be going and trying to do that. And I mean, this took me a lot to learn. Like when Jeff and I lived together in Carlsbad, my sciatic was fired up and I was at chiropractory. I was at physical therapist, like nothing worked. And so I'm like, well, I'm just going to go back to the gym. I actually was having me this week at my mom's house yesterday. I

squatted using 35s, 385, 565. 35s make it real nice to load. And like on my fifth set, nothing popped, nothing happened. But I actually went to set up. I was like, I'm going to press outside. I was about to coach my guys on Zoom. I was like, I don't want to be in this hot garage and worried about hitting overhead. I was like, I'm just going to set up outside. And as I was setting outside, I was like, man, my back hurts.

Not bad, but it felt funny. And I've been lifting long enough that I'm like, yeah, it's probably fine. So I was like, you know what I'm going to do? And this is opposite physical therapy advice. I was like, I'm just going to power clean before I press. And so I started power cleaning. And using my back, my back, I feel nothing now. After three sets of power cleaning, I worked like 205.

I was like, I feel great. And I pressed whatever i pressed but yeah no i think if you're like yes you should live in lift in physical therapy you should forget your numbers and your numbers may come right like your numbers you may end up hitting the same thing you're supposed to hit but i don't think you should be worried about the numbers of like oh i was dead living 275 but you should be worried about the numbers of like, Oh, it was dead living to 75, but you should be trying to do this movements. Cause again,

the, the way we're teaching these movements, it is physical therapy. Like that's the whole point. Like we're not trying to make anyone a power lifter. I mean, if you want a power lift, great,

but it's like, you know, you're trying to be strong and healthy, but yeah. Anyway, next question. All right. Next question comes from Kevin Sirkin.

Don't know. What's up? Big Kev. Big Kevin. Big Kev's question. Long time listener. Should you be as sore with the program as you would be with a higher volume exercise program?

I'm guessing Jeff's got a good answer. Program being the novice linear progression? The brogram. Yeah. The brogy ram. Should you be as sore? I'm assuming he means,

should you be as sore doing three by five as you would be doing a Dr. Mike is retail hypertrophy sets of 12. I assume he means some like contrast of like three sets of five versus three sets of 20. I mean, you'll probably get more soreness from that stuff. And again, a lot of it's just going to be, I mean, I don't know if you've been, if you've been doing the program and then like you switch over some like

bodybuilding thing, right. You're probably hitting new range of motion. There's going to be new muscles. Like it's new novel, like a new novel stimulus. And so you'll probably feel some soreness from that, just from then doing a high volume repetitions. So, you know, there's like, oh, that leg day was killer. I couldn't walk down the stairs for next week because you did a bunch of exercises

that you don't normally do for high repetitions, for multiple sets. And then, you you know maybe the next week all right it's different exercises you're gonna hit bulgarian split squats instead of front squats and so now like you're kind of introducing new exercises all the time whereas like your body doesn't actually kind of have a a chance to to really acclimate to that stimulus so that's why i feel like oftentimes that that soreness like keeps reoccurring with programs like that vice doing barbell stuff all right your body knows

what that stimulus is and you're adding more weight and then eventually kind of the soreness goes away and you're not getting that soreness work workout to workout because you've had the chance to actually like develop to that stress chance to actually develop to that stress or acclimate to that stress. What were you going to say, Trey? Jeff nailed it, man. I was going to ask. I'm like, soreness is correct me if I'm wrong, just not

indicative of a good workout. It's indicative of you've just never done that movement. New range of motion that you're not accustomed to. I mean, so to answer his question as intelligently as I can, as a homeschool boy from the low country, I would say. I keep that you're high country.

Yeah, I'm an upstate guy now, but that's where I got my education, in the upstate. But no, I would say, you know, so if you went in, let me open with this. If you went in and did three sets of 20 air squats, a high rep program, you'd be super sore. But then if every day you did three sets of 20 air squats, you would not be super sore. If you went in and did three sets of low bar squats for sets of five, and you never low bar squat for four before, you'd be super sore the first time. But then if you did that every other day, you would not be sore. Soreness comes from new eccentric range of motion, eccentric meaning muscle elongating,

that we're unaccustomed to. So the problem with high rep stuff is usually like, so right now, you know, yesterday, I squatted 385 for five sets of five. A lot of people would think like, man, Grant's strong. If I went tomorrow and did MRF, which would consist of 300 air squats, I'd be wrecked because of the number of eccentric range of motions that would happen in those bodyweight squats.

So no, no and yes. The deal on the side of high rep stuff is generally high rep programs always change. Kind of like what Jeff was saying, like three sets of 20 preacher curls today. Tomorrow, three sets of 20 leg curls. The next day, I don't know, three sets of 20 GHD sit-ups right and it's constantly changing in your dealing step where muscles are elongating like yeah you're always going to be sore and like trey said it's not indicative of good workout but like no if you're if you're running like if he means by the program starting strength we can also say strong lifts we can also say 531 something where you're like squatting in a similar manner in a rep range of one to eight a few times a week like yeah when you first start you'll be sore but after that you should not be sore like you you really shouldn't be um so yeah do you think that goes the other way too like let's say you're doing a high rep five by five kind of thing and then you

have a day where you just hit a couple singles heavy singles would you be sore after that or no so you wouldn't be sore i would i would make the argument i often tell people like would like if i'm programming you and you've you're kind of strong and like you have a day where you're singles i always tell guys like you're not going to feel sore where you're walking funny, but you are going to feel beat up. If you squat, and generally, so let's say a guy's running three sets of five, he becomes an intermediate.

A lot of guys, I put heavy fives, let's say on the deadlift, one week, threes the next week, and then the top single the next week well where do people make mistakes if they're trained they make mistakes at the heaviest loads so like if they're squatting a heavy single or they're deleting heavy single their knees might do something funny they'll make a mistake and then they'll they'll feel i don't want to say pain because that's okay i'll put it there

that's okay no but they'll feel pain or discomfort but it's like yeah man like you pulled a heavy single like double your body weight of course you feel some discomfort and that's okay i put it there no no but that's okay. I put it there. No, no, but that's okay. A lot of listeners won't get that. Mom won't get that. Sorry, mom. But no, I would make the argument that, let's say you're coming back from a layoff right now, Trey, and you haven't deadlifted in a while. Let's say twins are going crazy you're busy and you're like i want to get back in the gym and you're a strong guy you're a great example because you could probably pull what four fifth you probably pull 495 for single right now if you wanted right there i guess if i had to

thereabouts right like thereabouts so you pull could we agree you could pull 405 for a single let's make it like something everyone could digest right yeah so if you're like hey i want to get back into it let me see where i'm at and you worked up and you pulled 405 for a single and you hadn't lifted in a month you wouldn't be sore you wouldn't be walking funny you might feel like a little achy, but if you worked up and pulled 405 for five and you had deadlift in a month, your hamstrings would be sore, right? So it's the rep range. It's the same reason I'm saying I score out of 385, 555,

or it's the same reason when you came back the other week and you were like, hey, what's a good program for me to run? And I ran it from you not realizing you had a layoff and you did five by five on day one and you were sore as crap, right? Like you're like, what is happening? But if you had gone to the same way and done a single, you would have felt nothing, right?

It's volume in an eccentric range of motion that you're not accustomed to. That's soreness. So like, no, you shouldn't feel sore yeah but you will feel like to be clear you will feel if you're lifting heavy whether you're pulling triples or singles you will feel like beat up yeah are we ready for the shocker yeah we're ready that was all that was all the slack questions okay cool all right so here's what i want to do we did a great segment earlier in the season where we um we broke down college football teams didn't go very well if we

looked at the analytics people didn't listen during that part and they came back but we all made predictions of our teams right but now it's the week before college football uh i didn't do the i didn't do a and m's well you're gonna get a chance that's a shocker slide so well but now we're at the point like i just listened to last week's guest steven garcida tailgate 547 i listened to the first episode this week oh and man i finished and i was like we can beat anyone. My perspective has completely changed. I'm fired up. Everyone's fired up. And I know Trey has an Excel sheet where he tracked everything

and made sure everything matches. But I also know he doesn't have that Excel sheet. So this is going to be the episode that we draw back on later in the episode. So I don't want this don't want to lose tied in came out a little book or whatever i just want win or loss based off how you're feeling right now okay and we're gonna go through auburn texas a&m south carolina in that order and then we're gonna grab this soundbite so we gotta we gotta go quick okay and then we're gonna post it and then we're going to grab this sound bite. So we got to go quick. And then we're going to post it.

And then we're going to look back at that and think. So, Jeff, I got the schedule up. Don't worry. Are you ready? I remember Jeff's answers last time. So remember, this is against Auburn. So I'm just going to name the opposing team and where the game is. Alabama A&M at Auburn. Win. California at Auburn, so I'm just going to name the opposing team and where the game is. Alabama A&M at Auburn.

Win. California at Auburn. Win. New Mexico at Auburn. Win. Arkansas at Auburn. Win. Oklahoma at Auburn.

Win. Auburn at Georgia. Now we're going to lose that game. Auburn at Missouri. We're going to win that game. Auburn at Georgia. Now we're going to lose that game. Auburn at Missouri. We're going to win that game. Auburn at Kentucky. Vanderbilt at Auburn. Win.

Louisiana Monroe at Auburn. Win. Texas A&M at Auburn. Win. Auburn at Alabama. We got one loss. 11-1. Guys, I really came back down to earth

over my last prediction. Alright. You ready, Trey? Am I doing A&M? No, you're doing Texas. Oh, I thought I was doing Auburn. We saw adversity's horns off No, you're doing Texas

No, you're doing Texas Notre Dame at Texas A&M When? Nisei State at Texas A&M When? Texas A&M at Florida When? Bowling Green at Texas A&M

When? Arkansas at Texas A&M. When? Arkansas at Texas A&M. When? Missouri at Texas A&M. Lost. Texas A&M at Mississippi State. When? LSU at Texas A&M.

Lost. Texas A&M at the University of South Carolina Gamecocks that's a dub New Mexico State at Texas A&M win Texas A&M and Auburn I agree with Jeff loss

Texas at Texas A&M I'll go with the loss there as well alright someone has to read it to me I can't read my own. I got eight. It's not the same. Oh, gosh.

Old Dominion at South Carolina. When? South Carolina at Kentucky. Loss. South Carolina at home against LSU. Loss. Akron at home. When? Ole Miss at home against LSU. Loss. Akron at home. When?

Ole Miss at home. When? On the road at Alabama. Loss. On the road at Oklahoma. Loss. At home against Texas A&M. When?

At Vanderbilt. When? At homebilt. When? At home against Missouri. When? Home against Wofford. When? In Death Valley against the Taters. Clemson.

Loss. Okay. Okay. Seven wins. You got seven wins. I think we get seven. I may be off on a bunch of games, but I think we get seven. I can see that.

Wow. I think early on I said 11-1 as well. No, I think you said five wins. Yeah, I think you were lower last time. Yeah, I think we're going to be – I don't know. I don't know. NIL, transfer portal, it's tough to say. Who knows?

I would switch OU and Ole Miss for U. Yeah, that's fair. I think something's going to be weird there. You know, like I feel like we're playing West teams. We don't usually play. We swapped Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida for Alabama, LSU, and OU. So, like, something's – you could something's... That's a tough swap. It is. I feel like, okay, can we all

agree Auburn has the easiest schedule? Oh, 100%. 100%. By a large margin. Dude, definitely. Definitely. I forgot that Texas A&M was opening against Notre Dame. I'm like, ooh. That should be fun to watch. That's fun though. I love that.

It's fun to watch and just like punch me in the face game one. Yeah. You know what I mean? I feel like teams, you beat Old Dominion, which I actually think Old Dominion could totally beat us. You beat Old Dominion, who are we? You beat Notre Dame. How good is Notre Dame?

But you beat, it builds team confidence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You good is Notre Dame? But like you beat like it builds team confidence. You know what I mean? Or you lose and it's like, oh, we lost game one. But it's also kind of nice thing because maybe that bolsters your strength of schedule, but you can bounce back from like an early loss

like that. Like people forget about that if you go the rest of the season and play well. Notre Dame may go down, but you lost in number seven, Notre Dame. Yeah. Right? And it's like, yeah. Notre Dame is not number seven. It's kind of like.

Sorry, guys. I don't have many sound effects. At this point of the show. On. Save round. Send it. Wait, wait, wait. Save round show on save round send it save round again saved round not even joking

so I'll be in Greenville for the A&M Notre Dame game Abby was wondering I'm this big soundboard guy I'm this big soundboard guy Abby was wondering. I'm sorry. I'm this big soundboard guy. I'm this big soundboard guy.

Abby was wondering what the chow scene's like there. I'm going to see like three great spots. So we want to watch the game, be able to entertain two six months olds basically yeah basically um so i would say one one game watching place okay wait do you have a good spot i thought you were gonna say two and then three just you just want one game watching space or yeah we're only watching day in&M Notre Dame game. Oh, I mean, I think... These are all potential sponsors. Yeah, my number one spot would be Yeehaw. Yeehaw!

Which has a huge outdoor area, but also has an indoor area. But the indoor area is not cooled. It's not AC. It has fans, but people can sit in there. But it's a huge screen. It's a screen every time i go to watch like manchester united or liverpool or all the games i really care about i'm really watching barcelona barcelona play real madrid venezuela yeah real madrid you know that's where i go

um no but i would say that's number one for like you want to watch. That's where I watch the women's Gamecocks win the national championship. Great spot. Okay. Number two. Just good chow spot on number two. So we're not watching the game. We're still watching the game. Let's do not watching the game.

Home team barbecue. Home team barbecue. Quick answer. Home team barbecue. Cold AC. Food's okay barbecue no the food's fantastic like yeah yeah yeah home team now three number three place you gotta name your favorite brunch or breakfast spot fork and plow what great names yeah yeehaw fork and plow and what's the barbecue place home team home team okay i actually think i didn't really realize i was rating greenville but i actually stand by that

okay yeah good same rounds i'll let abby know yeah uh this point of the show we hit any alibis premier league is back liverpool is one and oh and oh since there's draws in there also their first place yeah with other teams yeah loving love on my teams one and oh and oh um yeah but at this point of the show you know we we want to thank our sponsors once i wanted to find us and i don't know how to promote anything so why would i do that and and jeff you know it's i mean he works for patagonia why would he do that so we go to the guy that always has the best internet connection it's always in time the shortest of straws yeah, doesn't have a lot of stuff going on at home. We'll go to PJ, but he's on his honeymoon. Shout out, PJ.

But, Trey, if someone made it this long, an hour and 37 minutes in the podcast, and you had to tell them a couple things, what would you tell them? First of all, I would ask them what episode number is this? 035. Episode 035 of the... Okay.

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