The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 6: 315lb Bench, Toby Keith, Super Bowl & Fiddler’s Green

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Podcast Hosts:Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach.Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and LifterTres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and Lifter TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 01:40 - Texas Training  09:46 - Carnivore vs Vertical Diet  18:16 - Is A 315lb Bench Realistic? 27:07 - RIP Toby Keith 28:59 - Texas Trip Recap 35:06 - Jurgen Klop Steps Down 36:39 - Super Bowl Predictions 42:44 - Big Ultramarathon Event 47:19 - Snooze Button? 52:24 - Lifting In Climbing Gyms 56:17 - Being Called “Bud” 58:03 - Is Grant A Cowboy Now? 01:00:21 - Congrats Jeff! 01:09:16 - New Fox ESPN Platform 01:11:26 - Theo Von Live 01:13:38 - Amateur Lifting Update 01:20:22 - Fiddler’s Green

okay and welcome back to episode six of the okay podcast i'm your host grant brogy and we are recording live i guess it's not live when they listen to it live for us right now it's live uh from greenville south carolina we got pj here in the studio. The weather is beautiful. Finally, it's no longer cold. There's no rain. It's 75 degrees and sunny. Uh, it's basically paradise. I mean, it's heaven. Yeah. It's, it's, it's as good as it gets. Uh, the time of the recording today is January the sixth and the year of our Lord, 2024. The current price of Bitcoin is $43,117.30. And the block height is 829,263. And one correction, it's February 6th, not January 6th. February 6th. Wow. I've been carnivore for so long, I'm starting to lose my mind. Is that a side effect? Yeah, it's a side effect. Memory loss.

It is February 6th. I got the year right though? I think so. Okay. The year's right. So February 6th, a lot of exciting stuff to catch up on today. It's really been two weeks since we recorded here together. Yeah. It's been a while. I feel like we haven't even done this in a while. Yeah. So last week or the week before, I've been in Texas for, I was in Texas for like 11 days for Marine Corps training. And we recorded on a Tuesday night and then we recorded episode five, once you probably saw all three of the guys and no PJ sadly on Thursday night. So we kind of went back to back. So, I mean, there's a lot to talk about. How was Texas?

I think I'm an honorary Texan now. Are you? Yeah, I was there for so long i came back with a new set of horns um that's the old set of horns next week maybe next week we'll we'll have them on camera um but i got some horns uh i bought another hat so the last hat i bought i was 18 when i bought it and so i bought a brown one like a chocolate brown oh a cowboy cowboy okay i was like you have a lot of hats dude so so when you're in texas cowboy hats are called hats oh is the other one a cap cowboy boots are called boots cowboy buckles are called buckles it's like

if you're in china they don't call chinese food They just call it food. That's weird. Well, that's weird. The logic works and probably cheap and probably cheap. Um, so Texas, yeah, Texas, uh, got in. Um, yeah, I guess we should talk a little bit about training on the road and training when, um, you're in a new environment. So I landed Thursday night. I generally train Monday, Wednesday, Friday, every now and then I get a fourth day and usually a fourth day is because I get short on time. And so I have to move one lift to another day. Um, but I landed Thursday. And so I, I did four workouts while I was in Texas. I did one on Friday and then Monday, Wednesday, Friday, the following week. And it's amazing when you go into a different gym with different equipment, um, you're traveling time change only an hour, but it's still a change. You're sleeping a little bit

differently. And the biggest thing for me was food. And so I'll talk a little bit about how to eat while training on the road. But I guess the point that I think is super important is to think about like mindset when you're training on the road. Like I'm running a program, I'm always running some type of program, but when I, when I'm training on the road, I just, I'm like, Hey, things are going to feel a little bit different and that is okay. And so, yeah, that's okay. Um, so on, uh, Friday is my kind of like heavier squat day. Um, I hit some heavy triples. Uh, I did like, I think four or five for three sets of three. And then, and then I backed off. Um, but I just, I felt a little beat up in all my training. I don't think it's because of the carnivore diet,

anything like that. I think it's just, um, different, you know, I'm a routine guy. Usually my life is pretty, you know, when I'm home, it's, I eat at this time. I train at this time. I train at this place. I use these plates. Everything is the same. And when it's not the same, stuff feels a little bit different. And so I think the takeaway is if you're training on the road, go train, especially if you're someone that travels a lot, right? So again, if you're on vacation, Hey, take a week off, enjoy your vacation. But if you are in a type of job where you find yourself on the road, you know, a week, a month or whatever it is, then you have to go ahead and figure out how to make that training work.

And it might be shorter sessions. It might be a little bit different, but you got to do it anyway. I didn't feel like training. You know, I got the Marine Corps tree suit on. I'm busy during the day. I'm with Marines as a reservist that want to go do things afterwards, but you have to make time for the training anyway. Same thing if you're in a regular suit, a business suit, and you're somewhere for work, you got to get something in. So I didn't set any records. I didn't make anything, um, nothing incredible happen,

but I went in, I didn't miss a session, a squatted bench, press deadlift and got, got the reps in. So if you're on the road, you got to find a way to make it work. Well, it didn't feel good because you weren't using strength, go plates, but yeah, that's rough. Yeah. That is like, I don't want to sound spoiled. mean but but but i mean and it's a leeko like those are decent oh it was a leeko bumpers but once you like if you're training with cast iron plates with a lip and then you switch and you're dead i mean obviously there's a place for a leeko bumpers your power cleaning whatever i mean there's no place for legal bumpers. Cause then you just use strength, go bumpers. But what I mean, the trash is where the place is actually. But yeah, it just, it stinks. You gotta pull them and then like they're can't grip them.

The post they're on is like too thick. And then everyone sets up these squat racks and these commercial gyms too close to each other. So you're grabbing them you can't like fit in between yeah it's not good they're not smooth yet easy to grip no way yeah they're almost slippery oh so yeah the equipment uh big equipment downfalls was there a center neural on the bar uh i was intelligent enough to find one with the center neural okay um that's a thing that you know i was training with uh uh, uh, master and shepherd, big Shep, uh, shout out big. Okay. Podcast supporter. And, um, he's been training, been following the YouTube training hard and he was squatting, I think two 45, um, something like that for sets of five and, uh, and had grabbed the bar with no center neural. And it's so funny because we had just talked about it. And then he had like a moisture wicking shirt on.

He usually wears our stuff. And the bar was moving around on him. I was like, top, you got to get the center neural. Huge. Yeah, huge. But yeah, equipment. Equipment, man. Once you do the best, you can't go back.

No. And especially if it was a core bar to squat on it yeah you know that's my next purchase when i have my home gym set up i'll have the dual barbell system that you talked about last episode yeah gotta get the core bar the dual the dual barbell makes a difference um i miss the costa mesa gym all the time and we're at block haven yeah we gotta save a little talk about training with climbers. I think that's one thing the guys want to talk about. Oh, okay.

There's three racks. There's a deadlift platform. It's good. It should be fine. But when I used to walk into the Costa Mesa gym when no one was there. Oh, man. With eight racks. Yeah.

Oh, it's like I'm squatting. By the time my workout's done, I've put nothing away. Right. And I've used three racks. And as I'm putting everything away, I'm finishing with pull-ups. I'm like, yes, this is... squatting by the time my workout's done i've put nothing away right and i've used three racks and as i'm putting everything away i'm like finishing with pull-ups i'm like oh yeah this is the way i mean maybe with the exception of the deadlift uh i i even missed the miami apartment gym that i have on the 19th floor because you could just roll right into your other room i had a gym in my

second bedroom apartment uh in the second bedroom and man that was nice no travel time everything's where you want it yeah no no leco plates right and you're just in complete control i mean even you know at the the strength co at block haven here it's like yeah you go to squat sometimes i like to do the one underneath the american flag sometimes that's taken i have to do the one in the middle but then i'm like staring at the person dead lifting so i'm like i'm looking at their butt and it's like distracting oh i have a story story about that i don't know if it'll get the same effect but man last deadlift workout i had it'll be hard to explain if you're just listening to the podcast but there's a deadlift platform and then what would you say six seven feet behind the deadlift platform there's a rack about six feet yeah well empty gym all the squat racks

are free i'm going to deadlift I'm staying on the deadlift platform. A climber lifter slash lifter walks in. He picks the rack right behind my deadlift platform. And the other two are probably available. Oh, completely. No one was there, but it gets better. So he goes to bench press, but he doesn't bench press in the rack.

He goes on the outside of the rack, which means you're even closer to the deadlift platform. So by the time you put the bench in front of the rack, the end of the bench is like a foot. Yeah. You guys were right on top of each other and he sat at the end of the bench, like waiting between sets. And at some point I was just like, all right, dude, like I'm deadlifted. Like you're just, you should have just turned around and faced him.

Is that worse? Is that better? Cause I'm eye to eye with this guy. Well, but that made him made him made a move. No, it'd be worse for you yeah because you know it's more i mean i don't know do you want to be eye-to-eye with that guy or do you want to deadlift knowing that his face is like six inches from your rear end i don't know what that's a philosophical question that goes back ages yeah we probably shouldn't shouldn't answer but um yeah no that stuff happens. Okay. So carnivore update. Yeah. How's that going? Yeah. So it's February 6th, not January 6th. And I'm still carnivore caveat.

I didn't cheat, but well, I was on the road. So I ate, you know, I ate at the gas station there at the PX, the post exchange on the, on the base, they had hard boiled eggs, which I got a lot. They had these salami and cheese wrap things that I got a lot. But where I did cheat where like during January, I didn't like, I was like really hardcore is if I went to dinner with Marines, I basically ordered chicken wings, but then they're fried in something. Right. whatever buffalo wings are what are they fried yeah like whatever that is but it's not like to me i'm like it's technically not it's technically not but it's to most people it is but to me it isn't not deshaun baker right exactly beef salt and water

but so i definitely had some meals like that where it was carnivore yeah ish i mean in that situation you know when everyone just hate you because like can you remove the fried bread from the wings and bring me back that yeah they already look at you weird when you eat all the wings and you send back celery oh yeah ranch and you don't touch any of that stuff so that's that's kind of what i did so i'm i'm i going to keep going through the end of the month. I'm back home now. A great skirt steak tonight. And, you know, my weight's holding the same right around 215, 216. The Marine Corps height weighted me and body fat tested me for 73 inches, six foot one. The max weight in the Marine Corps is 208 pounds. If you're over 208 pounds and you have to be, uh, tested for your body fat percentage. So there's a chart that they enter where they measure

your waist or excuse me, your waist and your neck. And they do three different times. And then you get two different people that do it to you. And then they enter a chart based off your height and your age, and they come out with your body fat percentage, which is interesting because I do like a DEXA sand. I'm usually around 14%. I think they had me at 13% on the Marine Corps method. And then just for fun, there's a thing that now they're introducing across DOD, where if you fail the table, then you can get on an in-body machine, which sends electro nodes up through your body. You hold things and all that kind of stuff. And I was 13.5 on that. So I think I lost some body fat percentage over the last 37 days, whatever it's been.

So that's been good. And then I guess I kind of give a recap on carnivore and what is better, the carnivore diet or the vertical diet, which is essentially what I was on. And I've said in episodes past that vertical diet is what I mainly like. But when I moved last year, new place, trying new restaurants with my wife, I definitely veered off from time to time. So here's my thoughts. If you want to do some type of diet and you want to know what's better, carnivore or vertical, the first thing I would ask you is what are you trying to accomplish? If you are trying to accomplish weight loss,

if you are trying to, you know, maybe you're well overweight and you need to lose body fat, I think I would probably recommend carnivore. And the reason why is that it is very simple. I think my favorite thing about following the carnivore diet is the rules are, it's so easy. And you could say, well, the vertical diet rules are easy too, you know, but with carnivore, it's like, hey, did it have a face or did the face produce it? You know, if you're doing it with dairy, like a milk and a cheese. And so you just know what you're allowed to eat. And when you go out, you are able to easily make changes as necessary. So I went out to a steakhouse one night in Texas, and I don't love doing this, but I said, hey, I want the ribeye. And they're like, what do you want from the sides? And I'm like, I don't want sides. I was actually with someone. So they ordered the sides.

It didn't go to waste, but it's very clear. Whereas if you're on a vertical diet and you're eating carbohydrates and you're eating protein and you know, but you are watching some intake levels of all of these things, it can be tougher, especially when you're on the road. So I think if, if weight loss or body fat loss is your goal, I think the carnivore diet is a worthwhile one. I'm not saying it's the only one. You could perfectly execute a vertical diet and it would be fine. But I think the rules being easy to understand and to follow really help people have success. If you are new to training, I think you should do a vertical stylish diet for those like

vertical diet, meaning high protein, clean carbohydrates, you know, white rice, uh, maybe some potatoes, some sweet potatoes, that kind of stuff, you know, but you're allowed to have carbohydrates and then you're looking for your, your micronutrients. Um, but if you're just getting started training, I'd recommend to go that route. If you training long term, I mean, I have felt fine today. I bench press 335 for a triple. And then I was supposed to do it for a second triple and I hit the pins. And so I did a single and then a double. But, you know, I'm performing close to what I am. I don't feel as good as when I have carbohydrates in the system. I mean, I'll be a hundred percent honest with that, but the idea that you can't train on a carnivore, um, I think is a myth that's, that's busted and I'm not the first person to do it, but you can totally train. Um, but you have to understand what happens during the transition from using carbohydrates as energy and into using fat. Um, but I think the carnivore diet is, is very useful for folks, but long-term I'm definitely gonna have some

carbohydrates again and, um, and train, but I've kind of made it this far. So I'm going to go a little bit further. Um, but yeah, so everyone that's like, Oh, I don't agree with you on carnivore. It's like, well, I don't agree with me on carnivore. It's like, well, I don't agree with me on carnivore. You know, I did it for a reason, for some data collection. And I think eliminating stuff, you know, it's like I feel guilty when I eat chicken wings that are fried in peanut oil. Why? Because I'm carnivore. And the rules are very simple.

Whereas if you're vertical and you're eating carbohydrates and you're doing some stuff, and then it just gets blurred way easier. It's like, um, it's like people that are doing keto and they're like, Oh, I'm keto. I'm keto. And then you see them, they're like eating a, what looks like your granola bar. They're like, it's a keto bar. Like, well, didn't you just kind of like defeat the whole purpose? So in terms of compliance, simplicity, um, I don't know. I'm a fan. Yeah. I think the simple rules is underrated. Yeah. I mean, that's what Stan Efferding says. What's the best diet? The one you'll follow. And it just, people don't weigh, people don't measure. People forget that ranch has calories. People don't understand like, oh, I'm going to order salmon and asparagus, but the salmon comes

drowned in butter. And it's like, well, if you're all already eating carbohydrates you're not chasing a bunch of butter so it's just the simplicity of the rule following yeah i think it's good and then i think as you eliminate all that excess you start to realize you don't need all that right so then when you go back into maybe you transition from a carnivore to a vertical diet you start adding in some stuff. Your training gets better. Yeah. It reminds me of like Dave Ramsey saying that, you know, personal finances, 80% behavior, 20% head knowledge. And it's just about following the rules. It's like, you can learn all the science or the math or the finance or whatever in the world,

but if you don't follow it or comply, you know, stick to the plan, then it's pointless. And that's why he's like, don't use credit cards. People are like, well, what about this or airlines for points? Or even if I paid off, he's just like, no. Right. Because he knows that people won't do it. Yeah. Yeah. If you do it for here and there a little bit, it's like, nope, that's what got you in the trouble. Let's just make a simple rule. And yeah, no, it works. I really like his, uh, his thing. I mean, it's, it's bad. Not that there's financial advice here outside of Bitcoin, but, uh, there's bad. I mean, it's bad. Not that there's financial advice here outside of Bitcoin, but there's bad. I mean, it's not, obviously you don't want to tackle the lowest, the smallest debt because you want to go after something that you might have with a higher interest rate. Right. Right. Mathematically, that's the answer. But the real issue is, I mean, this is like

Marine counseling 101. You're a platoon commander. You get this young kid. He's got one credit card that has $900 and one that has 3,500 on it. Yeah. Dude pay off the $900 one. Cause that's a win. It's a win. Yeah. Yeah. Winning. And then you get tired of winning. Um, but yeah, I have one question before these guys come on. I don't know if you'd be, would you have to say about this? So, um, I was bench pressing today and I was thinking about this. Um, so I have a goal to bench 315 pounds, just three plates on each side, just like a nice round number. You know, it'd be good to hit that. But as I'm going, it bench has always been my weakest, uh, lift. It's on the up and up. No, it's coming back, gaining some weight. It's good. But, um, so my question was how realistic of a goal is benching three 15? I know I'm not going

to squat 800 pounds. I'm just, unless I'm on special supplements. Sure. But trend balloon. Yes. That one. Yeah. It's found in meat in the carnivore diet. Is that carnivore? I think trend is carnivore, but it is a three 15 bench for like the average person is that where is that in the realistic scale yeah so i it's a tough answer right and because it comes back to the human behavior deal most people do not train consistently and even when they think they're training consistently they're not training consistently and they're missing you know one session every seven days and and and all of that adds up so I think I do think I'm not saying that everyone should be 200 pounds that's not what I'm saying obviously your height plays a factor and like your

goals but I do think that a 200 pound male yeah is capable of 315 pound bench press. Genetics play a huge role, but it might take a long time. Like I think the only reason that I can bench in the upper threes is because I started bench pressing when I was 14. And so I was training intelligently for a long time. So I think for you, it's realistic. I think for most people it's not, not because most people can't do it, but life gets in the way. Yeah. Something happens. Um, but I mean, your bench has come a long way. I mean, you had a banged up shoulder at first and, um, but yeah, I, I think 200 pounds though, like we're assuming average genetics. Like I do think if you're 165 pound guy and you're six one with really long arms, three 15 is probably not happening. Um, so again, if you want to be

165 pounds for some other reason, that's fine, but understand it. And I, do you remember the video we did on the benchmarks? Like I said, deadlift four or five squat three 15 to three 65. I think I said bench two 75. I thought you said 225 225 yeah that's what i said yeah exactly because that video was based off like novices like ending right so um so it's realistic but it's like it's gonna take some work it's gonna take time yeah it's gonna take time um like 405 is like i don't know you know, that might be reaching. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'd say 405 is like reaching for a lot, a lot of people.

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, 405, I would say, no, it's not a good goal for folks, but 315, which with training, discipline, proper diet, you know, but people, human human behaviors the issue nine times out of ten once again so 225 is like hey you should have that in the back 225 just like hey if you if you actually train for four to six months yeah most guys are going to hit a 225 pound bench um and i think we found that right like what you hit at in last april what an alpharetta was the first time uh no it was not it was actually at my parents' house in the, in their gym with strength

go plates. But yeah, I hit that about, I don't know, a year ago, 200 for five by five, 205 by five. So it's a slog though. It's like, it is, it's like the press. People are always like, Oh my, my, my strength is zapped. Like I just, I just can't do it. I'm like, no, the press is frustrating. That is the nature of the press, right? Like every inch away from your face makes it way harder, way harder. It's one and a half to two and a half pound jumps. And people don't like that. And that's why the squat and the deadlift they like, because it's your entire body, you know, I mean, they're both your entire body, but it's much more muscle mass. Yeah. And so you can, anybody that deadlifts four or five, I'm like in my line of strength training,

when I see a four or five deadlift, I don't think, wow, 405 pounds. I've never seen this before. Right. I don't think anything of it. What it does tell me is,

Oh, that guy trains. Yeah. Like he's trained. Like most people can't cold pull four or five, no training experience, but it's not like that took him to decade. I didn take him that yeah no no you give me a a guy between 160 and 200 pounds and he's serious about training and he trains for nine months yeah he'll hit it he can deadlift 405

right again training consistently yeah main takeaway 315 bench though is like i would say a 315 bench is a much more bigger accomplishment than a 405 deadlift really by a lot I would yeah I don't know maybe a 315 bench is like a five 500 pound somewhere around there somewhere in there yeah yeah um or bigger I mean some guys just struggle right like yeah you know or it's just harder or long arms. Like coach Braden, um, 600 about deadlifts me by a lot, right? The six, I think he's pulled in the sixes and his bench is getting way better. Yeah.

But he used to be super frustrated about his bench called a poverty bench, whatever. But I think he's done two 75 now, but he's just slow. He just gets it like, Hey, I got to come to the gym three days a week yeah keep going and the progress isn't gonna be as fast as in the squat and the deadlift it's not as impressive because people want to do something impressive like you benching 200 for five by five today no one in block haven no one cares stopping and going oh my goodness right but you understand hey if i just keep training trust the process the process the goal is the process there you go yeah all right amen yeah so uh let's see it's 2024 two years

two more years of training for me yeah you've been 315 two years all right february 6 2026 bitcoin seven hundred thousand dollars my bench is. Well, you're on the moon. I'm on the moon. You're benching on the moon. What's the math? Is it like a six of the gravity? It's a big difference. Okay.

Yeah, it's a big difference. So I'm benching 1,800. Yeah, you're benching 1,800. I was going to say you're at 315 because you're on the moon. Oh, damn. But yeah, when Bitcoin hits the moon. What else? Anything else we need to cover before we let these guys on here uh i don't think so i mean the other interesting topic i heard this week was someone

discussing uh how they think that the bench press the barbell bench press is predominantly a tricep exercise as opposed to a pec chest exercise who said this just, I just heard it on the internet. And the re the reason being was that the amount of elbow flexion that occurs versus shoulder flexion is a lot more elbow flexion. And it's the limit. It's usually the limiter in that lift is your triceps, not your chest. That was the argument. I'm just saying. Yeah. I mean, that's incorrect. I mean, you're, you're, I mean, that's why like on the, the way we teach it in starting strength is, Hey, take a grip. Yeah. We're at the bottom. Your form is parallel. Right. And that is just like the most general bench press, most muscle mass. Now, if you're

competing, you're going to want a wider grip, which would have been more pecs, less triceps, less range of motion. What are you trying to do when you're competing? You're trying to lift more weight. Yeah. When more lift more than the other guy, a close grip bench press, bring it in more triceps. The closer the elbows are to your side, the more the triceps can be loaded. I'd have to look at what you read, but most people just need to do the standard bench. I do like to add in close grip bench press for people. Yeah. Cause it helps their press and their bench. And so it's like, Hey, things are stalling out. Let's, you know, throw on that. And then it's something different. It's cool. Like, yeah, I'm doing a close grip bench press. I will say maybe it was added to the argument. Like maybe they said that and prefaced

it with the, the point being like, Hey, if your goal was, Hey, I want big triceps. They're like, Hey, you should barbell bench press really heavy yeah i'd agree with that yeah i'd agree with that but i wouldn't say it's like a primarily a tricep yeah it's like people that's you know squatting is only the quads nope and i mean obviously if it's a high bar like yeah it's gonna put more towards the knee than it's gonna put towards the hips but it's like i mean squats that's the lift of the gods it's going to put towards the hips. But it's like, I mean, squats, that's the lift of the gods. It's everything. I'm not relaxed anywhere under a heavy squat.

Yeah, exactly. You don't work your abs at all, do you? No, it's quads only. Yeah, it's quads only. So, yeah, no, that's good. 315 bench in your future. Two years. Let's go.

When we're on the moon. Let's let these guys in here, huh? Let's do it. Okay. Okay. moon uh let's let these guys in here huh let's do it all right okay okay i feel like i feel like we have to do this yeah i mean it just feels feels right feels right let's have a moment of silence yeah for toby will this be copyright now since he's passed? It'll be fine. It's probably going to get

taken down from YouTube. Oh, demonetized. Yeah. Oh, no. Our fortune. Yeah, I don't know if we can afford that. I mean, he's dead, right?

So it's free now, right? Yeah. That's how it works. So basically, we need to kill Garth Brooks and then we can listen to his music again. That's the title. Kill Garth Brooks.

If Garth dies, then you know. Big jumping guy. Yeah, the OK podcast was at hand. Have y'all ever listened to like Tom Segura's podcast or know anything about the like running joke with his fans and Garth Brooks yes I do yeah elaborate just go read the comments of any Garth Brooks post on Instagram and 99% of them are Tom Segura like his podcast is called your mom's house and all their fans are just in

the comments because there's this running joke that like garth brooks is a like a sociopath like murderer and has bodies buried everywhere and so all the comments are like where are the bodies like what the families have to be like shows where the bodies are like every comment i love the internet uh best how's this light look this one or this one uh like let me see the first one i like the first one okay yeah i'm not i'm no lighting guy but yeah you're looking good yeah good well jeff have you washed the texas off you you still are you still pooping texas chow i think i think it's all passed through but, but it definitely hasn't passed through you. You took a residency there. Man, I came back with a cowboy hat, horns.

No state income tax. Yeah, no state income tax, an open border. Everything people like. Border. Everything you want. Jeff, I was telling Grant, he got done with Marine training and got a more motivating haircut. Okay, so I have something on this, right? So I know and met my wife through her cutting my hair.

So I like to get my hair cut every week. I don't like the way it doesn't look so actually going to marine corps training was problematic because i couldn't get my haircut so i actually let my hair grow longer while i was there for 10 days because i'm like i'm not going to go to the px to get to get butchered just to like on the second drill, we can't be like, look, I got a fresh haircut. So yeah, I got more motivated. My stache is back in red. Yeah. Higher, tighter.

Does Dee give you a discount? Yeah, she does. Like a military discount? Yeah, I get a military discount. How many Bitcoin is a haircut? Man, these days, 0.25 Bitcoin. That's Steve. Still Steve. I actually 0.25 Bitcoin. That's Steve. Still Steve.

I actually paid her in Bitcoin. I paid her in Bitcoin one time. Yeah, I've heard about this. Yeah, yeah. And then I gave her Bitcoin. I was like, you should tell people. If you get an Asian guy in here, he probably has Bitcoin. He'll know.

Yeah, and just be like, oh, I accept Bitcoin. So yeah, Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. Texas. Do you want to figure out what block height was? Yeah, we went to block. I was 80-something. It's high. Yeah, it's high. It's up Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. Can we figure out what block height was? Yeah, we went to block as 80 something. It's high.

Yeah, it's high. It's up there. Yeah. We also talked about bench pressing Jordy S if 315 was possible. And I said it would take him two years in 2026. But then I said, and he goes, Bitcoin will be 700,000. I said, yeah, we'll be on the moon. That's why you'll be able to bench 315.

Because you're on the moon. Ooh, got him. Wait, be able to bench 315. Because you're on the moon. Ooh, got him. Wait, can you guys bench 315? Like, no. You know how... There's dad did when they were in high school. Mine too. Everyone's dad did.

Trey, you're close. I feel like I might be able to. Okay, I feel less bad. Yeah. So, I don't even know where to start there's so much to talk about it's been like wait I want to know what happened when I was gone like how was the Texas recap the Texas recap or how was the pod like yeah did you not listen to it I mean I was like three times editing it but yeah those than that. Oh yeah.

Those don't count towards our view total. So you need to go ahead and actually watch it on one platform. This is true. Actually, actually I do, whenever we post one, I do just like open it up and leave it running a lot. Oh, just to pump the analytics. Just to pump it. Yeah. They're pumping.

They're saying that we have like over 300 listeners that listen every week. Dang. And I'm like, wow. That's numbers. I 300 listeners that listen every week. Dang. And I'm like, wow. That's numbers. I don't even know 300 people. In Texas? Yeah. In Texas.

Everything's bigger in Texas. I feel. So we're not famous now. Is that what you're saying? Not yet. But it's close. On the cusp. Yeah.

On the cusp of being famous. Someone came up and asked for an autograph the other day in Tulsa. Wow. Seriously? Yeah. No. being famous someone came up and asked for an autograph the other day in tulsa wow seriously yeah they no not not seriously try driving the okay podcast okay you're from the podcast yeah well we did do some serious marketing in texas so uh shout out again top top shepherd we went to we had like out yeah yeah yeah top everybody uh all like the the marines coming in they had a like a social uh it was a it was a conference we attended the first three days i keep asking like we were all on base for 11 days but it was only me uh jeff and i were only there the first three days but it was a social so everyone's there yeah so we just hand shepa like 100 okay podcast stickers

and he's just going up to everyone at this place called second rodeo hey listen to this podcast like is it you he's like no it's my friends and stickers were everywhere word of mouth yeah word of mouth best way to get new business. I was going to say, you got to talk about that PJ night. So you said Fort Worth lives up to the hype. Would you say? Oh, yeah. I've never been to the city except for the airport. Well, so I would say that Dallas is a city and Fort Worth is a town.

Oh. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Is it overrated or underrated hot take well i just i just think that fort worth is more um i mean there's parts of dallas where you feel like you're in la what yeah that's like super bougie nice hotels louis vuitton stuff walking around you fort worth is like definitely cowboy.

Lou Jesse stores. Yeah. Oh yeah. Jesse's. Yeah. One or two. Yeah. I think it lived up.

Did you tell Jeff about the rodeo? No, I didn't. Oh, Jeff went to a rodeo. Oh, have you been, wait,

Jeff, have you been to a rodeo? I haven't been to one in Texas. No, I went to the, like the, so you have the Auburn rodeo when they would have that like once a year. One. Yeah. It was a to one in Texas. No, I went to the Auburn Rodeo when they would have that once a year.

It was a fake one, yeah. If you had come, it wouldn't have been your first. It would have been my second rodeo. Yeah, I went to the rodeo in the stockyards. I thought it was awesome. Rodeo was, yeah.

Rodeo was a pretty good time. Yeah. I really like when they ride around the barrels. The barrel racing? Yeah. Is that what that's called? It's not called riding around the barrels? That's it, yeah.

Well, that's the formal one. Okay. All right. Well, we can come back to Texas because I think we'll have to wrap up with some with some marine stuff but uh yeah jeff what's the what's the what's the sports uh recap we gotta talk nfl we gotta talk you know what do you got well first i'm gonna do like i'm still devastated over it this is the liverpool update um liver king so i, their coach or manager of like the last, uh, like nine years,

I think nine years has said that this is going to be his last season. So he's going to step down at the end of the season. It came like abruptly, like people were just like shocked. Um, and like a lot of the other staff is leaving. Um, so it's pretty devastating because he's been an awesome coach. Like the players

love him. The city loves him. All like the supporters love him. Jürgen Klopp. You're like a German guy with really like with a really big smile. I'm like really fake looking teeth. That's the most German name I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're a big flop.

Who would name a kid that Klopp? Yeah. Oh, Klopp. You're a big flop. Who would name their kid that? Klopp. Yeah. Oh, Klopp. Klopp. You're a big Klopp. Yeah. So pretty upset about that. Is he like the Bill Belichick of football?

I don't know if he's, he's definitely not on Bill Belichick's level, but like he's like one of now probably like the top three managers in Liverpool's history. So, um, okay. It'll be sad to see him go. he's like the gus miles on of football i think i'd say he's a little better than gus okay okay better than a little more consistency worse than a little more consistency

yeah okay jimbo fisher uh super super bowl oh when's that sunday sunday oh sorry i say d's now because i've been in texas sunday um who do we who's the chiefs and the 49ers 49 like we we already picked the winner a couple episodes ago we did yeah we predicted this based off history yeah we predicted this. Based off history. Yeah, we predicted this. There's been empirical data. Do we want to do some prediction scores? Oh, I like that. Like off the cuff? I like that.

Yeah, off the cuff. So let's just go. We'll start with PJ because he loves sports. Oh, God. So you got the 49ers from San Francisco. Yep. But also to remember Toby Keith, go West Young Man. Have you been told California is full of whiskey?

Women in gold Super Bowl trophies. Yep. And then you have the Chiefs, the Chiefs, which is basically Taylor Swift. I'm going Chiefs. 34 49ers 28. Did you write that down, Trey? I can't. You said

34-28? Yeah, Chiefs. Alright, I'll take this note. P.J., 34-28 Chiefs. Okay, got it. Let's go, Trey. Oh, man. I'll stick with... With the podcast prediction? 35 Chiefs.

35 points. I'm going to go high-scoring game. And then I'll go 42. So, 42, 35, 49ers. Yeah. Because Debo Samuel's playing, I think, right?

He's not hurt. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He should be ready. Yeah, they got Debo. Who's their running back? Oh, Christian McCaffrey? Yes, McCaffrey.

Yeah. Okay. I'm like right in where you're at. I think it's going to be like 42. I'll say 42, 38. Niners. Mahomes will have the ball at the end. Have a shot.

49ers defensive stand. I do not want the Chiefs to win, but yeah, so 42-38. We also got to do the other prediction that everyone's doing. Is Taylor Swift going to make it? Oh, yeah, because she definitely flies commercial flights. Yeah, she likes to get the Delta Comfort Plus, I think. So she's purges from that. Yeah.

She sits back near the toilet on the flight that she's not sure is going to take off. Like, come on. She's flying private. I mean, what's the last prediction? That she makes it? Oh, that she makes it. Yeah. So there was a bunch of stuff about when,

when the chiefs made it, she has a concert in Tokyo. Oh yeah. Like the day before. Shout out Japan. I'm half Japanese. Shout out Japan. You're half, you're half Taylor Swift. I'm half. Now I am. No, she's having me hold on. Kim Chi. Kim Chi. Kim Chi. I think Kim Chi is Korean. Ni hao. It's all the same. PJ has no idea how to speak Asian. PJ is getting spicy over there. How do you say hello in Japanese? Hello. No, I'm just kidding. That was rude.

I might have to edit that out. It's ni hao, right? No, that's Chinese. Konnichiwa would be a Japanese. Konnichiwa right that no that's uh that's chinese konichiwa would be a japanese oh that's correct yeah and then you reply and say kimchi and that's going to be taylor swift's the name of the album yeah yeah all right jeff the last one we need your score uh i'm gonna go 3127 Chiefs. 3127 Chiefs. The podcast is split. And you think Taylor Swift will make it, right? That's what you're saying.

I'll be shocked if she's not there. Yeah, she's definitely there. Will Jason Kelsey be there with his shirt off? I hope so. He better be. American icon. America needs this. What a guy.

I mean, my prediction was based on just, you know, all the rigged conspiracy theories I see on, on X. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah.

I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. Yesterday I landed, I got back, turn on the TV and Roger Goodell's fielding questions about Taylor Swift's impact on the season. And I'm like, I can't believe this is real life. Like wild. But yeah, that's the girls got some influence, man.

Yeah. It's kind of like the okay podcast. That's exactly like people are making that comparison a lot lately in the media. I'm pretty excited for our Super Bowl ad. It's going to be great. It's going to be.1 seconds. It's just the of okay. It's just Trey running across the field

holding up his phone playing the okay podcast in the middle. That works. That would be great. Who's doing the halftime show? his phone playing the okay podcast yeah that's right i mean that works that works that would be great trey who's doing the halftime show usher usher yeah yeah yeah okay yeah uh sure reba mcintyre singing the national anthem right oh i'll show you like that although it's hard to top chris staon. Dude. That's true. That's tough.

Reba's got some pipes. She does. Reba's got. Yeah. She'll be good. She pole vaulted at Oklahoma State. Yep. With Jurgen Klopp.

With Garth Brooks. She is from Oklahoma. She didn't pole vault. Yeah. Let's see. Jeff, you got a big event coming up. With Garth Brooks. She is from Oklahoma. She didn't pull fault. Yeah. Let's see. Jeff, you got a big event coming up. Running up in the air.

Where it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This past weekend. So this is the third year in a row. It's called Running Up for Air. It started in Salt Lake City. This guy that's a a really crazy like ultra marathoner like if people know what like the barclays marathon is or like the western states 100 which i won't get into explaining those but if you know what those are look them up uh if you don't this guy's the only person to ever finish the barclays marathon

three times he's won the Western States 100. He started a race for you. Oh yeah. No. Yeah. I totally beat him. Totally. Nice. Totally. Totally. Well, he started a race for like you run up and down this mountain. That's like just outside Salt Lake city called Granger peak. And there's like a couple of different, there's like a 24 hour one. There's a 12 hour and there's a six hour. I'm definitely more of a six hour kind of guy myself.

So yeah, Kaylee and I did that. It was Friday night. So it started at 7 PM and then went to 1 AM. You ran for six hours? So, well, I mean, it's a lot of walking uphill and then running downhill. And it was like snowing and it was pretty epic conditions. It was good. What was the total mileage? Was it a marathon?

So it's a big smile. It's like a 10K round trip with like 2,400 feet of elevation gain. And then how many times did you do it? So we actually only ended up only doing it once. Kelly was not feeling great prior to the race. And then like big shout out to her for doing one lap.

Like not feeling it. And she was like, no, we're going to do one. So yeah. So you're running for the Salt Lake City air quality. Yeah, yeah. It raises money for a couple different air quality charities. So yeah, it raises money for um a couple different like air quality like charities so yeah it's a good time it's a good time nice but yeah no the guy that i think

the guy that started at jared campbell he passed us like six times it felt like and then wow one of like patagonia's like trail running ambassadors was there and i feel like he passed us like a hundred times how many people like thousands like hundreds like dozens there were so for the 24-hour race there were 48 people that started and then our six-hour one i probably had around 30 people in it okay um yeah yeah and then there was like a six-hour one the next day and then a 12 hour one that starts in the morning the following day. First of all, what a title.

Patagonia trail running ambassador. Nice. Potential, potential sponsor. Yeah. Potential guest. Yeah. We'll have on the show next week.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll get Luke Nelson on. Yeah. Good old Luke. Willie. Is that Willie's brother? Funny story. Well, yeah oh good old luke willie is that willie's brother funny story well one of luke or one of willie nelson's kid is named lucas nelson yeah yeah that's him uh and funny so our like store manager is a big willie nelson fan and like they're like

oh yeah luke nelson's coming to do this event he's like lucas nelson is coming here like is his dad coming they're like i don't know maybe is he bringing whiskey for my men or beer for my horses uh i'm gonna throw all the toby keith too soon man i can't believe how many toby keith songs i know oh on the on the pre-show with trey i was was talking about that. I was like, I forgot. There's a handful of really good songs. Yeah. And that was like, what did he blow up? Like, oh, two or three?

Oh, no. I say he was like 90. He's like mid to late 90s. Okay. That's what I'm going to go. I'm going to go with that. If I take it. Yes.

I think he was real big in the late 90s. What's the song he had after 9-11? Curious Sea of the Red, White, and Blue? My daddy served in the army. We lost his right eye. That was my dead left side. Yeah, that was good. When did he blow up?

Oh, it was like late 90s, early 2000s. Late 90s. So we're both right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, good. I can clock strike twice a day baby r.i.p dang toby he was young yeah 62 stomach cancer oh yeah not good um trey are you a snooze button user um dude i completely forgot i put that on there yeah yeah you put

that as a thing you want to talk about what a segue yeah yeah toby he just hit snooze still is oh he's alive and well now hit the big snooze button today. No, but Abby loves the snooze button. Oh, dude. I go, hey, what time you got to wake up tomorrow? She's like, well, I'm setting my alarm for six, but I'll probably

get up at seven. I go, why? Set your alarm for six but i'll probably get up at seven i go why just set your alarm set your alarm for seven yeah wait do am i is are y'all snooze snooze people or no i'm not a snooze person at all i am if i'm going to bed late a backup alarm person but i'm not a snooze person i always click stop i never click snooze even though they make it three times the size and put it in the middle of your phone. And I actually really dislike snooze people because they are snoozing and I am now awake. Basically, I'm telling a story about being in a Marine squad bay

where a staff sergeant wanted to put on the admin guy that has to take the numbers. So he puts on the alarm every day for like 3.30 in the morning and just doesn't wake up. So I don't even know if he's a snooze guy. So then I go over there. I'm like, have to turn his alarm off. Then he has his backup alarm on. Yeah, anyway.

I'm going to, my blood pressure is rising. Yeah. I've heard it's like, so you go to the exercise in Twin On Palms. You get done. You're sitting, like you're sleeping in the squad bay and then everyone

like sets their alarm so I go hey we all gotta get up at six and then every there's like 30 alarms going off

at like 555 I'm like like do we all need to set alarms or is it something that like one person could be like

hey let's wake up now okay time to get up time to get up guys fire wash down the revelry has grant told you if you're not 200 pounds and you're not a real man i mean everyone in my life has told me that everyone everyone yeah they're all dog like hey yeah check it in see what the body weight's at son yeah everyone in my whole life is telling me that i pray and god tells me so yeah can you really prayer until you're 200 yeah that's what he said we were really close to

having jordy on camera tonight so the office is actually set up two tables over there i had the mics over there it looked good and then i realized i have to see you guys so i'm like no problem i have that extra tv since we moved i haven't pulled out so i pull it out but i'm missing like all the cables and the stand for it but uh maybe next so he's got basically seven days to gain 16 pounds gallon of money good day you should do it for a week just do it for a week a gallon of milk a day. You should do it for a week. Just do it for a week. A gallon of milk a day for a week. Start tomorrow. See where you're at next Tuesday.

That'd be a good, that'd be a good reel. That'd be a great. Buy a 15 pound weight vest. Just throw it on under your shirt. What about Gale? Look at me. That low bar back squat really works.

Made it. Stare at it. Wait, what's, how much is the, the Fair life whole milk how is that's not a gallon is it uh no that's a half gallon that's a half gallon but don't buy that go to costco and buy the kirkland whole milk and just slam that and just slam that dang that's

what you need all right you should do it tomorrow i should try it for a week now i'm kind of curious you should totally sounds miserable oh yeah crush it. Oh, yeah. That sounds rough. Crush it. I love milk. I would hate milk by the end of that week. Yeah. A gallon of milk. That's like a third a gallon per three meals a day.

You could break it up. It's not that hard. A gallon of milk is like walking 10,000 steps a day. If you get up at a decent time and immediately go for a walk, you're there. When it's bad is when it's like 2 p.m. and've drank no milk oh that's bad that's bad then then then you're in you're in bed so it's 16 it's 16 cups in a gallon yeah so so it's like okay eight glasses of milk do you do that eight glasses of eight glasses of milk. Eight glasses of milk. Well, 16 cups, you know. Well, that's only two glasses four times a day.

I think I can do this. Oh, you can easily do it. I think I got this. You got to do it. Okay. Do it. New prediction. So you're going to do it starting tomorrow? No. Oh. I'm going to do it the next week because I'm traveling to Jersey to meet my girlfriend's parents. Great time to do it. This weekend.

And they're like, this impressed. He's a great guy, but man, he loves me. Hey, great to meet you. You got any whole milk? That's some of that skim milk. George's going to go up there, propose, and I'm going to be like not to. You can't propose until you're 200

pounds, Jordy. Yeah, everyone. I would be surprised. I mean, let's see covered oh jeff lifting in a climbing gym it's the best it's the best everyone there common goals yeah they know the etiquette what are you gonna say first of all try oh is is that like a normal? I've been to a climbing gym once. Shout out climbing gyms. It's normal. I haven't been to a lot of them, but I'll put it to you this way. All the ones I've been to have been for the lifting facility.

Same here, actually. Yeah. And across Utah, Wisconsin, I've been to one. California, I've been to like three. South Carolina. Didn't we go to New Orleans? Do they have rock climbing there? I don't know.

Yeah. But yeah, that's normal. But it's interesting because they don't actually need to make a barbell gym. They just need to make a jungle gym because rock climbers just want to like hang on things. And I don't personally get it. They probably look at me and don't understand what I'm doing. So it's fine. I'm like, aren't you about to hang from those rocks? Like, why are you hanging from these poles before you go hang from those rocks? I don't really understand, but they do interesting things. Yeah. It's wild. And the whole place smells like feet.

Okay. And not necessarily dirty feet, just feet, though. Smells like clean feet. Yeah. It's just like bare feet everywhere you look, just people walking around. And then I guess the climbing shoes are really uncomfortable. So they climb for a little while, and they have to take them shoes off, and then they walk around with their feet.

That's a good time to come pull a couple 135 sumo deadlifts real quick in between bouldering sessions. Yeah. There's like a whole culture of climbers. Do they look

down? They all look like they work on Wall Street. Because they're climbing above you. They're looking down on you. They look down. Literally. They tend to stare at it. Do you say they're all on Wall Street?

I thought you were asking, do they have a look? And I was going to say, yeah, they all look like they work on Wall Street, which is like the opposite of what they look like. That's exactly what you'd think a rock climber would look like. Okay, fair since i grew the mustache all the time nice mustache brother oh my gosh yeah you want to go boulder yeah yeah bouldering is not climbing it's different jeff you did bouldering for a while didn't you yeah the the gym that they're like the climbing gym i went to in

i guess it was oceanside uh was just just a bouldering gym so they didn't have any ropes or anything like that nothing was more than like 12 feet off the ground but they had a really nice like you know they had one squat rack see a bunch of like nice i mean they weren't a brand that i will not name uh competition bumper plates like full set of kettlebells full set of dumbbells like everything and no one would use it everyone was climbing so i was just like oh i'm gonna and you know i'm gonna work out at this gym yeah and what's crazier trey is i would make the argument that i mean you're never going to beat 24-hour fitness planet fitness for pricing but the rock climbing gyms that have nice barbell facilities like

it's kind of cheap yeah what is 79 a month 79 a month but you're not paying for like all the the rented machines that they have yeah so it's like and it's like unlimited like you could also be rock climbing right um i still never have me neither but they also have a coffee shop inside which i like yeah um oh okay yeah okay okay okay that's pre-workout yeah man that's the hard part is trying to find a good gym while on the road oh yeah sometimes someone will say that to me and I just say I hear you bud yeah bud that's tough you love being called bud

right Trey dude in Starbucks today I need to in Starbucks today he was younger than I was and just oh hey watch it there, bud. Oh, sorry, bud.

I'm coming through, bud. I'm like, you're like 18 years old, man. Should be served. Bud is disrespectful. Like, hold on. Just a straw poll here. Does anybody mind being called bud? I mean, I don't love it.

So I like being called bud by one person. Your dad. It's close. I know who you're going to say. Coach Ron, who was like one of the first members of the gym, works for me to this day. You'll meet him at the Arnold. Jeff knows him from the Arnold.

He's outstanding. Retired. The most interesting lifter in the world. Like he's like, yeah, I think he was just in, where was he? Some desert, like Sahara. Yeah, Africa. I don't know. Africa just in where was he some desert some like sahara i don't know africa like i said some desert um but yeah he was somewhere older guy right older guy and so he'll say like hey bud how's it going and i'm like it i almost feel like honored like oh we're buddies

there's there's a window like if you're like 60 to 90 you're allowed to say bud grandfathered up if you're 18 and you call me bud i'm like dude you can't say that yeah let's go outside let's step outside real quick what about like champ it's the same same thing yeah same thing i will say so so i'm leaving texas in my luchessi boots while i was there i bought a cowboy hat and so like the thing is if you buy a cowboy hat when you fly home you have to bring back the cowboy hat also i was checking out of the unit so i had to like check a bag which i never do and i have like all my marine gear so i'm like traveling really heavy and so i'm wearing my luchessi boots and this you know wide brim ariat hat and um i you know i'm walking on the plane and i've just embraced it like oh i'm just gonna act like i'm a cowboy and i'm carrying and i'm carrying a

short horn plaque and so and the rodeo just finished so everyone's like looking at me like oh this guy just won the rodeo like that wasn So everyone's like looking at me like, Oh, this guy just won the rodeo. Like that wasn't like, I posted on Twitter, but like, that's actually how I felt that like, Oh, Oh, your horns made it through. Good job, buddy. Like people that were in security and stuff. And so I'm just like, totally like cowboyed up. And then we land in South Carolina and immediately I'm like, this feels weird. I should not be wearing this cowboy hat anymore. But I'm like, I'm just going to embrace it. So I'm walking by people and going, howdy, howdy, howdy.

And I'm waiting on my bags. Diana goes to get the car. I'm like, I got to go lift tonight. I'm going to go get a Dunkin' Donuts. So I walk up to Dunkin' Donuts, and there's a lady behind the counter, older African-American lady. And she has boy.

Oh boy. When I saw you walking up, I just wanted to say a big old howdy. And I go, well, howdy. And then like all the ladies are like laughing in the back. Like,

howdy, are you from Texas? I'm like, Oh, I'm an honorary member yeah yeah so anyway howdy howdy uh belt buckle yeah yeah i have a few actually but i wasn't one of them but i like that you call it a belt a belt buckle so that hat in texas is just it's not a cowboy hat it's a hat just a hat i, it's not a cowboy hat. It's a hat.

Just a hat, man. Cowboy boots are boots. Cowboy buckles are just belt buckles. His eyes are cold and restless. His wounds are almost healed. She'd give half of Texas, but only the Mexico half. Okay, so we got to change, uh not transition change subjects here a little bit and give a big shout out and uh let the listeners know about jeff's accomplishments so we had so we

filled with episode five we did on tuesday in texas at trey's house he made an awesome carnivore spread and then on saturday night, the patron Saint of artillery, St. Barbara, it was the annual celebration, uh, regiments across the Marine Corps. We'll, we'll talk about this, but bring people together. And so for the 14th Marines, it's interesting because it's reserved. So people come from all over the country and, uh, it's a big deal. Like I, I know I want to get Jeff's take, take on it, but it's a big deal. Like I want to get Jeff's take on it, but there's a thing called the Honorable Order of St. Barbara, and it's to recognize achievements within the artillery community. It doesn't only go to 0802s or 0811s or 08 artillerymen designators.

It can go to people that served in it. There's a lot of drama anytime someone gets in. Cause everyone, you know, well, I can't believe that Sergeant major got it, dude. The guy's been in artillery for 12 years straight.

Yeah. But he's never been on a gun line. Um, so there's a lot of, uh, a lot of back and forth, but, um,

Jeff was, uh, entered into the honorable order of St. Barbara. So congrats,ff thank you thank you it was about time it was it was like way overdue um but yeah what did you think like so you've you've got plenty of medals on your chest that you'll pin on them and tell your mother that you did your best but like what did putting that on like don't know, like how would you rack and stack Marine Corps moments?

What do you think? Oh, that's like, that's definitely way up there. Yeah, for sure. I remember when we were at artillery school, we were like did a St. Barbara's Day, like very early on. I feel like in the- Like the first week. Yeah, the course.

And it was just kind of like, whoa, what's this? And you see it, you see people get this metal so like i feel like it was something i was very aware of early on um coming up through the artillery community so i was like oh this is pretty cool like you know i think that's when uh at the time captain palca uh got his which was just like now looking back you're like whoa that's pretty that's pretty cool to see that yeah he did get his then yeah like yeah i forgot about that so to be clear jordy it's a red um metal scarf well the metal's gold but what's it's a red what do you call the thing ribbon yeah it's a red ribbon yeah with the gold metal on it i saw this video of him getting yeah so when the event starts though so you got i don't know 500 marines in the room yeah and there's like 200

and guys like they as soon as they can they put it on right oh yeah so it's like 1400 put this on make sure everybody knows that i have my saint barbara's metal yeah but um but yeah that was cool and then trey came and watched it which was cool in of itself but trey that was your first like marine corps event since when did you get out 2018 2016 16 you got out so almost 10 years 16 damn it's it's been a minute yeah what did you think like did you did you, was nostalgia flowing? Like it was definitely, yeah, it was definitely nostalgic because it's the thing that's like, those were my favorite things about the Marine Corps is like camaraderie and

like seeing, seeing all the people that are there and you kind of bond with them. But dude, I saw people there. I'm like, dude, I, I know that guy. And they're like, you just kind of catch up and it's just like, and like, it's like an instantly, like you pick back up almost like right where you left off. But man, yeah,

that was, it was definitely nostalgic. Um, I said, seeing, seeing Jeff get that, that was really cool. I'm glad I,

I'm glad I made it out there. You talked me in my favorite part. When we were leaving PJ. So whenever you leave, it's very responsible. Right. So it's, it's, there's a bunch, a bunch of libations there. Right. So whenever you leave, it's very responsible, right? So it's, there's a bunch of libations there, right? So everyone,

people are having a good time. And so the people, the Marines on duty make you blow in a breathalyzer to make sure that you can drive right before you leave. So I'm sitting there and I'm checking it out with the duty and they have a breathalyzer. And so it's a breathalyzer and they have the little like plastic thing that they give you that you put in there and you blow into i have a good story about this this this dude thought i was probably hammered so he first thing he does is he's holding the plastic thing and i didn't hear him and so like i thought he

was like trying to put it in my mouth for me. So I like put my mouth like closer to him. He goes, no, grab it. I go, okay. Okay. So I like grabbed it and then put it in my mouth and then I like have it in there. And he's like, then he holds up the like machine and he's like, all right, I'll put it in the machine.

And so I'm like leaning forward with the thing in my mouth, like trying to put a machine. And he's like, dude, he's like, put it in. He's like, just take this thing and blow into it. I'm like, Oh, this dude thinks I'm hammered. And that was like 0.0. And he's like, how is that possible? I'm pretty sure that's what he said.

He's like, this is not possible. You hadn't been drinking. Not at all. No, it was funny. So we'll come back to St. Babs, but on, i don't know i was there for 10 days but one of the days i get randomly selected for the urinalysis so i go to the urinalysis and um and i'm like first in line and i go and i have this marine and you know so

you you get your you get your little thing you approve it you say it's good and you hold it by your ear and you walk down the hall okay so i've always like every time i've done a year analysis the marine corps i walked down the hall i'm a big star wars guy so i walked in the halls i go and like i make like a big deal so we get into the bathroom and i'm like you know not stage fright but it's taking taking a second to get things going and like i look over at at the Marine he's like kind of like awkwardly standing at the side and I go so do you do this every drill yeah and he's like sir this is my first time ever doing this and I'm like kind of nervous I'm like oh don't worry about it man I'm like you just get to watch a bunch of dudes pee yeah it'll be fine and then

like I like popped a couple jokes I'm like we walk back we come in and I'm like look at this someone get a hydration chart tell me how my hydration looks yeah and like i finished in the corporals like sir thanks for thanks for not making that awkward i was like i feel like i made it more awkward yeah he's like no you really calm me down so but then i finish and the staff started just like sir time to get breathalyzed we're're breathalyzing everyone. And I'm like, okay, it's 12. What are you expecting to achieve here? So same thing though. He goes to hand me the plastic thing

and I take it and I'm like, now what? And then he hands me, he's like, sir, have you never been breathalyzed? I'm like, no, it's not like a thing that happens to me on a regular basis. And so then he goes through the steps. And he's like, press it on and then blow. So I press it on. And it starts a countdown.

And I'm like, he's like, no, not yet when it gets to zero. And I'm like, I don't know. And it was like this big thing. And then I was like, 0.000, perfect score. Yeah. What do they call that plastic thing uh is that a donkey dick too yeah it's a donkey dick right if you told me grab the donkey dick yeah i would have no doubt i wouldn't know the delta delta yeah but uh yeah saint graham's that kid going how is this possible yeah definitely this thing's broken this thing's broken

oh man but no it was uh it was good so congrats chef yes sir yeah yeah thanks that was congrats yeah even cooler like great having you there trey having you there like yeah that yeah again that made it super special so last thing on this you know the weirdest part about being there is like when i got out first lieutenant everyone else was like second lieutenant first lieutenant that i knew and then like going back and like seeing like staff sergeants i knew that are like master sergeants yeah master guns and then just like majors. I'm like, dude, getting old, man. Yeah. You know what Garth says?

Much too young to be wearing this much rank. Yeah, no, it does feel weird walking around as like a major. You're like, oh man, this is strange. Yeah, I'm old. Guess I've been in this gun club

a while. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what else we got? Go down that list. Rip Toby Keith. I feel like we covered that. What's this?

Joint Sports Streaming Platform. ESPN, Fox. Oh, yeah. I didn't get a chance to read that. Oh, dude. I didn't hear you explain. That came out. so that came out today and I don't know

how soon it's going to come out but it's essentially just another subscription that you get to pay for probably $25 a month it's like Disney Fox and Warner Brothers do they have Peacock? I'm just teasing

because that playoff game was behind the peacock paywall that the chiefs were in so it was 699. does warner brothers own nbc or is it disney i don't know but peacock is the word is like my least favorite streaming platform yeah yeah premier league comes on so that's why we have it but like if a game so if like there was a game that's on at 6 a.m and then like you know we get up or like oh the game was on earlier let's watch it now it's like nope game is not uploaded for like a few more hours or something like that so you can't watch it like immediately if you start a game late what's up cal who okay okay if you start a game late attention and you're like still watching it

and it ends it just ends the broadcast so you're like oh okay cool thanks wasn't watching that but Peacock's great so I don't know yeah I don't know if Peacock will be on there or not but no all of them are getting together and just like they're going to be streaming

all the sports that they carry I don't know if it's like NFL I know it was mainly for college football, what I was reading. I just read that it'll be available to ESPN plus subscribers and Hulu. Okay. So maybe not an additional $20 a month. Hey, get rid of your cable, be a cord cutter and get a streaming service. Three years later later i have 27 streaming services and it's double the price of direct tv i could have had a satellite on top of my house for cheaper than this it's wild we did this to ourselves yeah yeah we did i will say i'm a like youtube tv i'm a fan big fan well any any uh major save rounds we need to

go over i saw theo i got one i saw oh yeah this is good yeah oh dude nice yeah i went to columbia south carolina uh saw theo von live i will say of the Gamecocks, number 15 in the college basketball rankings now. Beat Ole Miss tonight, 62-59 for those that are listening. Go ahead. They finally ranked him. Finally ranked him. Finally. Yeah.

I would say if you get a chance to go see Theo Vaughn, you should do it. Hilarious. The openers were good. Yeah. And the crowd looked exactly what you think a Theo Vaughn crowd would look like. Like a bunch of hair. A bunch of hair transplant mullets? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, his first line, I'm not trying to give away material here, but his first line, he walked out, he goes, man, a lot of white people. He's never used that one before. No, no, no. Usually he has a very diverse crowd. For sure. But yeah, he was great. He was great.

How long did he go? He was about a little over an hour. So kind of like an okay podcast, except not as good. It was right around there. Yeah. One okay podcast. One okay podcast. Yeah, he was good.

I would say that Theo Vaughn is under columbia south carolina overrated oh well if you just go to one stadium that's like me going to french lick well i drove around a little bit okay yeah all right did you go down to where the university of south carolina is no all right well shout out steven garcia he was on a uh podcast recently wearing a strength coat t-shirt oh hell yeah potential guest big big big steven but yeah you gotta go to five points you gotta go to the salty nut yeah right by the railroad tracks uh what's the place that uh is it pat green that's what's what's the place that texan m people go to it's like famous are you talking about the uh like the bar yeah that's like it's in like a pack yeah the chicken yeah the chicken yeah yeah dixie chicken so i'd say in columbia the salty nuts the the a&m

dixie chicken or chicken or whatever you call it all right gotcha yeah you see i let me see my amateur lifting update oh yeah yeah let's hear it you see what first of all went to obtain strength yesterday and i know they're listening because i told them to listen to this no he's the one kid untamed like obtain like obtain obtain strength get strong dude did you obtain strength yeah a little. It's cost 15 bucks, but yeah, I got a good drop in fee. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. And you had everything you needed. I do. It was like a fantastic gym to lift at. So like they had to split up into like machines on one half and the other half was essentially like squat racks, deadlift platforms, like everything you need on the other half was essentially like squat racks deadlift platforms like everything

you need on the other end so and yeah it went pretty late so one super crowded but what i did yesterday before you get into that real quick what was the sign up procedure like i'm always like whenever i'm trying to drop into a gym it's like sometimes i think gym owners don't want to make money like it's like hey i think gym owners don't want to make money. It's like, hey, I just want to come and use a facility. Did you book online and just show up? Was there a person at the front desk? So I always call ahead.

So I called ahead and be like, hey, what's it look like? He goes, just come in. It's 15 bucks. So I went in there. The guy was there. They just had an iPad. And you just fill out the form. Fill out the form. Pay 15 bucks. bucks get going that's about it nice super easy workout recap if you're

stuck in tulsa go to obtain strength living on time yeah who sings that pj uh i just know the song i don't even know who sings it. Don Williams. There you go. Ah. He's got that other one. Lord, I Hope This Day Is Good. Starts out coffee black. Cigarette. Start this day like all the rest. He's just been hanging out with Grant too long.

I know that song. He knew that song. I've heard that song. Oh, yeah. Really? Oh. We'll drop them in the show notes. Some Broken Hearts Never Manned. Ooh, that's a classic.

Same song. Anyway, how did your broken squat end? Squat 335. Bench 240. Nice. Nice. Three sets of five. Bench 240, three sets of five, and then deadlift 385.

Nice. Progressive. Yeah, buddy. So getting up there, trying to be up at 405 by the time I get to the Arnold. Yeah, buddy. Or bench 315. Nah, I think I will be. You're close to that.

You've done that before, right? Yeah, by the time we get to the Arnold. But have you done it before? Yes. I would think. 315? Yeah. I did in California.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah. All right. Any amateur lifting questions? Wow. Do we still have sound? Yeah.

You had one about liquid chalk one day, and I'm a liquid chalk expert. Oh. I never used it. I'll do that. So, yeah, I was talking. Just think about ways to improve my home gym experience. Right. So chalk for the home gym. I saw someone post something about liquid chalk is a better than regular chalk. Let's let Jeff talk, uh, liquid chalk, very overrated. Uh, actual chalk is the way to go. Uh, the,

the CrossFit gym I used to coach at the owner was extremely concerned with cleanliness of the gym. And so regular chalk was outlawed. You had to use liquid chalk. Uh, I mean, I guess in some ways it was, I like liked it more of like a it more in a CrossFit type environment.

But as far as lifting, I just go with chalk. It's way better. And if it's just like you and Abby lifting, there's not going to be enough chalk flying around for it to really make a huge mess or anything like that. I would say, yeah, I would say if you're in a gym that like has like so the navy gym on jrb has very strict rules no chalk allowed and like the navy gym there also doesn't let you put a bag on the floor it's like you take your gym bag i go to squat take my squat shoes out of my gym bag my headphones whatever and i go to squat and then like someone's like sir sir and i'm like what's up like your bag needs to go to the locker room

i'm like it's my gym bag like i have stuff in there i'm gonna use like it has to go in the locker room i was like so you mean take the items out that i'm gonna use and just leave them on the floor like no it has to be on your body so if you're in a place like that i would say liquid chalk has like it's it's much easier you're gonna make no mess and you're not gonna get in trouble okay but yeah i think normal chalk's better i'm actually curious for jeff's take on this because he has a rock climbing background what do you like better like the normal chalk that you buy on amazon or wherever or lifting chalk. Cause it's different. And when I say lifting rock climbing,

chalk rock climbing, chalk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't really what like the, like the texture is different. Yeah. It's like a lot of finer,

I think. And like, almost like a little bit rubbery. Yeah. There is kind of a weird texture and there's all sorts of like different brands have their different like sticks of like, ooh, our jock is the grippiest. This one will help you climb better.

But I mean, I think I just like regular lifting jock. Like that's kind of what my go-to is. And that's what's in my jock bag for climbing. Not that I've been climbing much in the last five years. There you go. What do you think? It get the whatever chalk i could find i don't know patagodius climber uh what's his name gosh they have they have one big what's his name i was like halfway joking but no he like there's's a I think his name is Theo Vaughn Alex Honnold

Abraham Lincoln. There's a documentary called Dawn Wall and he's in it's not Tim Young, what's this guy's name? He's like maybe the second, one of like the second most famous. Tommy Caldwell? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks Google. Yeah.

He's missing the tip of his finger. He sawed it off in a woodworking accident. This is into his climbing career. It was like, oh, it's over. And then goes and climbs this insane route. Oh, man. Just his thumbs. Just his thumbs.

So we're going to end this one with fiddlers green. Absolutely. Are we doing it? Start to finish all of it. I'm game. It's pretty long, but I'm game. It's pretty long. Trey, are you in PJ has no idea what we're talking about. Nope. So it's the poem at the end. Like, so at St. Barber's day, they read this and I don't know.

I think it was our... So the first St. Babb's we did in Fort Sill. The second one that you did on Pendleton, we were deployed. Or I was deployed. I don't know when it was. Actually, then I don't think we did another one together until last year. Yeah. But we always talk about this poem or whatever you want to call it,

the story of Fiddler's Green and Jeff and I get really, really excited. So there's like a music that plays while like a really inspiring narrator tries to read it. So I'll do my best. We ready? I'm ready. Okay. Fiddler's Green. We Red Legs are indeed a very privileged group in addition to the protection of our patron saint during life we can look forward to our own special heaven after the sounding of taps i refer of course to fiddler's green down through the ages all purveyors of the ancient profession of stone hurlers catapulters rocketeers and gunners better known as field artillerymen have discussed this special place in the hereafter, where someday each of us will be privileged to roam. There are many tales of the green and there are old artillerymen.

The stories are rich with the smell of gunpowder and campfires and flavored with the taste of artillery punch. Imagine, if you will, a starry night in southwest Oklahoma just after the Civil War. Nestled in the shadows of the wichita mountains is a battery of smoothbore cannon camp for the night as the campfires dim and the flasks of rum and lemon empty the conversation turns to the life in the hereafter a rugged old chief of section is surprised to learn that all present have not heard of the special destiny of red legs as the young cannoneers listen intently he shares with them the legend of fiddler's green it is generally

conceded he explains that the souls of the departed eventually end up in heaven or hell heaven lies about six miles down the dusty road to eternity and red legs get there by turning left at the first crossroad. From the same junction, hell is about eight or nine miles straight ahead. The road's easy to identify. It's the one paved with good intentions. A little way down the road to hell, there's a sign pointing to a trail that runs off to the right of the main road. It reads Fiddler's Green, artillerymen only. When artillerymen die, their souls are assembled in the battery area and they are regrouped into gun sections. Then they load their belongings on a casein of limber,

point their lead teams down the long road to eternity, and move out at a trot. Like most crusty old soldiers, they face the call to eternal damnation and pass the turn off to heaven. But unlike the others, artillerymen are met by a road guide at the next turn off the road to Fiddler's Green. The road to hell which lies beyond is crowded with engineers, infantrymen, cavalrymen, and other soldiers, not to mention the droves of sailors and marines, non-field artillery. But at this point, field artillerymen bid farewell to their old comrades of other branches and services and wheel their teams down the trail to the green the green nestles in a large valley spotted with trees and crossed with many cool streams

one can see countless tents and several large buildings in the center laughter can be heard from afar at the entrance are several long picket lines for the teams. Artificers are on hand to service the pieces after the long march. There is a representative of the great gunner to scan the rolls of the orders of St. Barbara and attest to the fact that all who are seeking entrance are indeed true red legs. Once certified, true artillerymen are met with open arms and immediately given a generous glass of the immortal nectar, artillery punch.

Filler's Green is a unique place. It is believed to be the only heaven claimed by a professional group as exclusively as its own. Even the Marines who did not choose field artillery only claim to guard the streets of someone else's heaven. The Green is a gathering place of rugged professional soldiers. Their claim to fame is that they serve their pieces well and selflessly while on earth. The souls of the departed red legs are camped here, gathered in camaradership. And the

center of the countless tents and campfires is an old canteen store where liquor is free. There are taverns and dance halls. Credit is good, no questions asked. There is always a glass, a friend, and a song. And at any hour, day, or night, one can hear an old cannon air singing the Kesson song. Duty consists of full-time A&R. There isn't even a duty roster.

Everything is strictly non-regulation. The chow is plentiful and good, and there is no in line the main pastimes are dancing drinking and singing all day drinking and singing all night the green flows with rum whiskey and pleasures only know to a few on earth the chiefs of artillery old battery commanders chiefs of firing batteries section chiefs and gunners down through the last cannon are all here Many are even reunited with sweethearts of their youth. Periodically, an artilleryman feels a compulsion to continue down the road to hell. He bids farewell to his comrades, repacks his gear,

fills his canteen, makes provisions for his horse, and departs for the main road, turning south toward hell. He was not forced to leave the green but he felt he must on his own accord but don't despair not a single red leg has ever made it all the way to hell his canteen of artillery punch would be emptied long before he made it and he returned to the green for a refill never again to leave halfway down the trail of hell in a shady meadow green are the souls of many departed redlegs camped near a good old canteen.

And this eternal resting place is known as Fiddler's Green. Fiddler's Green. Longer than you thought, huh, PJ? Man, that was good, though. There's music playing. Oh, it's so good. Yeah, it's good.

It's good. I need to add the music in. Yeah, I'll find the music. Yeah. All right. Save rounds. Trey, you still with us? I'm still here.

Oh, okay. Yeah. I didn't know if you left the green to go down towards hell, but then you ran out of artillery. I turned back around. Yeah. I made about halfway so there's a

sign in like on different artillery bases yeah where it's like a you know whatever Cape Cod this many miles yeah it says like hell heaven oh and then the bottom one says artillery men turn here and it points at

Fiddler's green which is like a bar at like these different places and so Jeff and I would always like take photos like oh I was driving down the road oh artilleryman turn here yeah I'm excited to see Jocko here in a couple weeks yeah Jocko at the Arnold

always at the Arnold no way at the Arnold? No way. We'll all be together. You guys will meet PJ in person. 200 pound PJ. Jocko and PJ. Yeah. 200 pound PJ. P-Jocko. I'm more excited about 200 pound PJ. Yeah, me too.

Oh, man. Well, you want to give the sign off, Jeff? Yeah, i can do that hey i appreciate everybody tuning in listening to the okay podcast uh if you haven't yet go ahead follow us on we're on x we're on instagram uh give us a follow on youtube subscribe these videos we're on all major platforms you can can find podcasts, Apple, Spotify. Okay. Rumble, is that another one?

I don't know. What else is out there? www.theokpodcast.com. You can find them all. Finish, Jeff. Okay. Okay. Okay.

All right. True social. Okay. Big on truth. Yeah, really big. All right. True social. Okay. Okay. It's true social. Big on truth. Yeah, really big. All right. We'll see you next week.