The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP. 80: Quiche Fallout, The Jungle & Back Pain

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Podcast Hosts:Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach.Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and LifterTres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, ...Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and LifterJoin the Slack and Use code OKAY:https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ksCheck out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.comBUY A FOOTBALL HELMET: https://www.greengridiron.com/?ref=thestrengthco14th Marine Reg T Shirts: https://usafulfillmentservices.com/14th-marine/This episode covers a mix of humor, military life, and sports—ranging from the government shutdown affecting Marines’ pay, to college football chaos, to Grant’s deployment stories from Australia. Expect signature OKP banter, chaos, and heartfelt storytelling.Timestamps: 00:00 - Quiche Fallout00:00 - No Staff Brief Because of Gov’t Shutdown08:19 - College Football, Tre’s Picks of The Week31:20 - Australia was awesome43:47 - Jungle Warfare Training Center52:04 - Bowling55:00 - Lifting & Back Pain01:04:29 - Saved Rounds

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Starting point is 00:00:00 all right and welcome back to episode 080 of the okay podcast powered by the strength co i am your host grant broge we are recording live from inside the web wes web wes the web was the weapon engagements zone of what is the web uh the price bitcoin today is 11319 000 and 60 cents again we tripled since the first time we recorded this podcast coming up on episode 80 but it's really or this is episode 80 but it's been longer than that uh grant's buddy got deployed there for a while uh so there was a short break but we've been bringing it to you have bitcoin's been on the rise today's date depending where you are in the world is october the 15th in the year of our lord 2025 october 15th kind of like april 15th meaning if you're not thinking about your taxes you
Starting point is 00:00:57 should be bw tax he's fired up he's got the patriots back on top of the afc east uh four and two beating up on everybody first time we've seen that since 2021 so what you want is a fired up bw tax and bw tax is fired up and he's fired up to do your taxes bw tax lc.com also in studio today joining us from the greater salt lake city area we have uh mr jeff bougier pronounced biggie for you military types, major type, just a freeze-dried captain, wearing Oaklees, because that's what reservists are. And also, Greatest O-402 ever grace, the presence of the spirit of St. Barbara, now out. Joining us today from McAllen, Texas. Down on the border, down on the border, down in the border is Mr.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Trey Robert third Gottlidge. I need a disclaimer that says I went to artillery school whenever you introduced me. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:08 He's an artillery officer in case you're not tracking. He's just also a log of. Lots of exciting things to talk about today, just like there is every week. Got some feedback last week. A lot of people upset about the Kish.
Starting point is 00:02:23 It's a lot of people upset about Kish. One, one of our outlinks. stations Andy Herbert dialed in said bad take by Grant how does he feel about frittatas I think he's just upset the Penn State can't win football games anymore I think she's I think she's a good a good take um yeah had a had a potluck lady potluck lady who might be the wife of another 04 major 05 select say like ooh quiet quietly quietly scratches keish off of Sunday's potlop and then my wife's like, now everyone's going to hate me
Starting point is 00:02:59 and think that I'm the snobby anti-Kisher and I'm like, I can't believe that someone's wife listens to this podcast. And she's like, well, she probably doesn't. She probably follows it on Instagram. And I was like, well, she ought to subscribe on YouTube. That's what she ought to do. So Kish, yeah, Kish, good talk. I like stuff that ruffles feathers. But without further ado, let's kick it over to the three.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Oh, well, in light of everything that's going on, we're not, no one's getting paid, but people are getting paid. So somehow there's like pots of money that are there that can be utilized, but there's not other pots of money. So like the troops are going to get paid, but they're not, but they are. I don't know. I know I'm not going to get paid and I'm a reserve. Hey, trash sticks here. What are the two things you don't mess with? For Marines.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Chow. Chow and pay and Libbo. He said two things. Yeah, that's right. Good adjustment there. Chow pay and Libbo usually pays a given. But we improvise, we adapt to overcome. What's the current status of your paycheck there, three?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Pending. It's pending. Yeah, yeah. Oh, a little. excuse me, sir, where'd you get that who'd you get that fancy coffee maker? Yeah, what?
Starting point is 00:04:30 Well, website did you order that from? Oh, www. Thestrength.com. You can get everything that's ever needed. But they make plates, right? They also make coffee makers. They make plates. They make cast iron and everything's made in America
Starting point is 00:04:43 except for one, one item, which is made in the Italy. And that's the Bricka, Bialetti. Bialetti Bureka, 2.0. It's a great addition. Wow. Better than one. point out. If you're not watching on YouTube, then you wouldn't know that I'm in an unauthorized
Starting point is 00:05:00 uniform making coffee in my barracks room. But I had to make my time hack. I thought I was going to change the whole fit. Just got to change the top. So, Jordy, just make sure every time I stand up, you cover me in a kilt or something. Oh, excellent. Anyway, yeah, not getting paid. Still coming to work. Still coming to work. Not getting paid. What else is new? It's great. It's great. the government shutdown is actually a topic near and dear to Grant's buddy's heart because yeah kind of affects you know what we'd call the redeployment and yeah so I don't know who I need to talk to I don't care if you're a Republican a Democrat a Libertarian
Starting point is 00:05:43 Green Party America Party I don't know what other parties there are yeah could you guys turn the government back on I'd like to come home so if you could turn the government back out that'd be great it'd be great for no more power outages be great for MCCS facilities to be open yeah let's get that power turn back on okay it's not just turn on like a week yeah just a week like you know great yeah yeah just yeah turn that power on well yeah it is funny I'm in the, you know, dual hatting. So I'm in
Starting point is 00:06:23 the, you know, my, so Grant's buddy's deployed. Grant is a reservist. So he's in a lot of reserve chats. And there's a lot of there's a lot of, a lot of talk about pay right now. A lot of talk about pay. So,
Starting point is 00:06:39 hey. What are you going to do? I think that concludes this meeting then. I know Trey is most excited for that. We're not getting paid. So we're not meeting. We're protesting, the government shut down, all the elected officials that are in office right now. She'd get fired and be. We're not doing a staff meeting until the pays back on.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I'll see you on another side, boys. Make sure you keep securing that trash. Secure the trash. Trash of the priority, especially in shutdown. People lose motivation to lose side of the mission. Don't lose side of the mission. The mission is trash. Trash shicks out.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Attention on deck. Oh, boom. Speaking of outlying stations, got a message from a major low and tight that said, I just want to say that I've been self-reflecting on the way in which I leave meetings at attention on deck, and I have been consciously trying to slow down my quick pop-up from the table that sends my monster key and flying, and I'd never thought about it until you brought it up. And that's kind of what we do in the OK podcast. We take the, we take the very obvious that happens in front of your eyes day to day that you never think is funny or question. And we just
Starting point is 00:07:57 make it more obvious. That's kind of what we do. Making the obvious, more obvious, the OK podcast. There we go. That's what we've always said. Yeah. It's our mission. If you look up, yeah, what is the mission at the OK podcast? That's the mission. Making the obvious more obvious and achieve accurate first round toilets for effect. I'm picking up trash. Okay. I'd like to dive into college, some college football talk here. Oh, shocking.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It was an interesting weekend. And then some fallout from that weekend, especially if you're a Penn State fan. They called me to be the coach. Wow. Yeah. You want to go ahead and pull up all my notes? I think they pay well. I would accept that.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. Well, it's been pretty good. On your previous notes? Yeah, all my notes. You got all my notes there. Right. Yeah. Oh, we take copious notes.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Yeah. All right, Jeff. Take us through the recap. Let's see. Auburn found another way to lose, so they're just really good. Yeah. They're brutal. What a brutal game.
Starting point is 00:09:03 The end of the first half was the half could not end fast enough. It was disastrous. Every minute led to some new thing. That was just disaster for Auburn. They made no second half adjustments defensively or offensively. Hugh Freeze is terrible at calling plays. I, I just freezes up. Yeah, freeze.
Starting point is 00:09:27 He only calls it on. What's the dynamic that they have? It's kind of confusing. Like there's a guy who calls plays on first and second down, a third down play caller. And it's so dumb. He freeze calls his third. I don't know. It was super.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I don't get it. It's just like they need to. Yeah. He's garbage. He's garbage. I was just funny. I thought he was going to be good there. Yeah, I was hopeful, but I don't know. I think he's got to get canned. But yeah, what's the, how that first happened? Because the A&M game was going on at the same time.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Auburn started off great. They're about to go up 17 to nothing. They're on like the half yard line. I don't remember how much time is left. It's around under four. minutes probably left in the half i think it was even less than that but fumble it on the half on the half yard line you could go back on for back and forth whether he actually like got the ball over the line whether he didn't whatever regardless like if the refs stole the touchdown from him or not like
Starting point is 00:10:33 hey just don't fumble the football on the half yard line and we're not talking about this and then so they turn it over george gets the ball like marches down the field players gets called for targeting on Auburn, gets kicked out of the game, just people getting hurt, like just disastrous into the first half, and then they didn't really gain any yards in the second half. So it's great. Yeah, winning. Tough to do against tall grass. Yep. And I was ridden there for you for a little while. I was on just some game cast. And I said, all right, George dogs. And yeah, it didn't work out. I think we need more activity in the sports Slack channel.
Starting point is 00:11:17 If you're on Slack, we got like five new signups last week, direct reflection of this podcast, obviously. Get in the sports channel. Get in the sports channel for a little sports talk. If your team's losing, you've got to stay in there anyway. Stay inside the Wes. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Well, I was going to have to tail into the South Carolina game. You pull the Norsellers. So good. And the team just so bad. It's pretty. Yeah. What a waste. What a waste of a quarterback. Yeah, I don't know what to think there.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I thought we'd go one and three in this stretch. I think we might go 0 and 4 in this stretch now. It's time to fire Luke Day, strength of the distant coach. Time to fire Mike Shula offensive coordinator. They fired the O-line coach, right? No, that's Sean Elliott. Did I make them up? I thought I thought I thought they made that out.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It's a weird thing to make. anybody. Yeah. That's right. Lonnie Tisley. Yeah, you're back. You're right.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Okay. Sean Elliott, who was like the A offensive coordinator who was previously the offensive line coach is now the offensive line coach. So kind of de-motion,
Starting point is 00:12:32 I guess. But he's real good at slapping people and screaming. So maybe he'll slap him into submission. I mean, slapping and screaming works in the weight room. I don't see why it could. That's true.
Starting point is 00:12:44 No line. Yeah. All right. Well, Oklahoma, on Oklahoma. Oof, at Oklahoma. I think I win that game. You can win that game. It's actually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I feel like that one's getable, especially after Washington. I do, too. I realize we couldn't beat Mizzou, right? There's a good team. They took Alabama into the water. Mizzu's not bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I, yeah. I think that thumb is, is an issue for me. tier at Oklahoma. So I think they're vulnerable. Oh, look at that. Ah, Maggie's. Texas A&M. Texas A&M. That's what a winning football
Starting point is 00:13:26 program looks like. Well, the Citadel one. So that's good. That is true. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. It's a hate purple week. It would play Furman. We're, we still got a shot at the Socon title. Three and three, but two and one
Starting point is 00:13:42 in conference. You beat Furman. pick up Mercer next week. You'd be leading dogs on top. Oh, Ryan. Is there a fullback on that team still? Yeah, there is. Things are actually getting better over there. And then luckily, I think the city will be able to soften up Old Miss a week before
Starting point is 00:13:58 South Carolina gets in there. So, you know, just kind of wear them down a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tie him out. Yeah. Tire them out. Yep. I am curious.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Have you talked to your brother-in-law since A&M has been on this heater? recently? I have not. No, I haven't. I usually let A&M go on the heater. And then when they lose, I'll think of you, but I don't want to do that to you. So I just take it all out in the head yell leader. And I just say, oh, man, tough game for the Aggies. Didn't realize they were undefeated. Crazy. Oh, man. I guess midnight yelled and go as well as you thought.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You should build a taller bonfire. hey now what are you number four yeah they moved this ahead of will miss this week so we'll see man I've you know during that game I was just thinking I'm like man I feel bad for Olivia McLeod right now I think she'll be okay yeah she's fine there's one thing I've learned about key sheeting women it's they care about sports and then they have kids and they don't have time to care about sports and so I just don't pay attention as much hey yeah she got the Tim Tebow years, like, yeah, she got it. She's good.
Starting point is 00:15:18 She's good. She's good. No, A&M will good again, man. Arkansas. This week, yeah. This week, Arkansas. At Arkansas. And then, but yeah, I think A&M's defense in the last three games have given up three
Starting point is 00:15:35 third downs. So you're like, tough to do. No, two third downs. There are two out of 32. Dang. A long third down. six in a row pretty good we'll see ma'am how bad you still got to do the other six but yeah so far so good yeah yeah you got it's a you got to play four quarters of football it's a long season four
Starting point is 00:15:57 quarters can't fumble up the goal line too soon yeah no not too soon it's um jackson arnold deserve that yeah let's see uh one of the big games before we go into tray's picks of the week uh obviously my note, Indiana. Yep, that was big. Called that. Just like I always do. Did he call that? 100%.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I said number seven, Indiana, go. 100% called it. I also called Wyoming the week before. It didn't work out, but I was due. And sometimes you guys aren't listening. I was just due. You know, I'm proud of us is we all went Colorado in Colorado. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Sometimes it just needs a little unity. Yeah. But, hold on, let me, do we do the recap of how he did? Well, yeah, we're going to talk about Penn State losing and then just going on that disaster skid. And then the old chopping block for James Franklin. He's gone. That was too soon?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Or you think that was warranted firing? Nah. That's a warrant. Like, for how much he's getting paid. Like, I feel like it was warranted. Needs results. But he, historically, they have a big game that he wins. Oh, he's like 1 in 15 against like top 5.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He doesn't win big games. And like, you know, like you, you got to perform at that level. So too bad for him. He'll land on his feet with his $50 million. Yeah, I think it'll be okay. I can see him going to Arkansas. See him coming to the Citadel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:32 He's in the Citadel. I see. I see Arkansas going after him. I feel like that would be a good pickup for him. Interesting. Probably more realistic. I don't know. You never know.
Starting point is 00:17:43 and I never know you never know but did you hear about this uh private equity group coming in and buying or uh like working out a deal for the big 10 oh yeah yeah it's like multi billion dollar is it so i could be wrong it's either two billion or 200 billion i don't know it's one of those i'm gonna go with the first one probably totally the same yeah once he get that Yeah, once you've got $1 billion, what's another $919. What's another $100.5. What's you look at a per capita, it's fine. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Per capita. You got to break it down that way. Per capita, it could be $200 billion. It's $2 billion. Big Ten goes in on $2 billion capital agreement vote, sources said. That's, this nearing decision. They need to remember there's four quarters of football. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That is true. It's near an decision. If they can say five their coach, it might be backing out. we'll see how that goes let's see how there I go all right should we get into this let's get into it
Starting point is 00:18:47 all right so this week this segment is this this week's oh wait you're doing a recap of last week or we're going to the next weeks I'll do recap the last week
Starting point is 00:18:57 oh yeah go ahead this is last week's recap of Trails Pick of the Weeks brought to you by grid iron green grid green green grid iron green all right go ahead all right so we were first place last week out of the group obviously we like to be we were in third we have bumped up into second place now okay we're dogs we are two games behind the first place
Starting point is 00:19:21 guy who i thought we would never catch up to so that was a good week last week so we went let me see we lost one two so we lost a tCU game we all picked tc u but so then everybody else um I'm pretty sure I made a note We all picked OU, we lost that one Yeah And then we all picked Oregon
Starting point is 00:19:44 I remember us all agreeing to pick Oregon Against Indiana Yeah All of us All of us No we did not I said number seven
Starting point is 00:19:54 Indiana I was just waiting for that to kick in So yeah Made a note But no Yeah we got Colorado That was a big one And we got Utah
Starting point is 00:20:02 That was the other big one So And SC I think we did picked that C. So those are the two ones that we kind of got up on everybody. Let's see. All right. Now, this part of the show as we do every
Starting point is 00:20:15 week and we have as we have as is tradition, Marine Corps tradition, football tradition, okay podcast tradition. This segment is Trays Pick of the Week brought to you by okay podcast powered by BW. Tax and sponsored by
Starting point is 00:20:31 the Strength Co and also powered by Green Gridiron. Picks of the weeks happen now this this is why everybody tunes in right here this is it this is what my mom tunes out first game that we have is lSU at going to vanderbilt oh i want to lean i feel like vanderbilt's favorite going vandy yeah vandy's minus two and a half i think i'm going to go I agree with that. LSU's offense is no Bueno this year. No.
Starting point is 00:21:10 All right. We have Georgia Tech going to Duke playing the Blue Devils, Manny Diaz. Oh, man. I got to go, rambling wreck from Georgia Tech and a hell of an engineer. Duke's favored by a point in a half. I'm going Georgia Tech, I think. They're 6 and 0. They've looked really good.
Starting point is 00:21:34 they've had some solid wins who are you going? Not so fast. Make a note. Make a note. Oh, I've got the pen and paper. I got the legend of Steve Spurrier, former head coach, old ball coach, Blue Devils running through the veins.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Blue Devils win by a field goal. Your mom would be disappointed in you. She would be. But it's all right. It wouldn't be the first time. We play a win. All right. So Grant's note, noted. No, Georgia Tech.
Starting point is 00:22:05 All right, next we got Arizona going to U of H. I think I'm, what's Hawaii's records on this one? Oh, this is, oh, University of Houston? Yeah, Houston. I'm taking the Coogs on this one, I think. Couges. What's the O'I's record?
Starting point is 00:22:24 Don't know, great question. I'm just curious, unrelated topic. Is this a Hawaii's record? Yeah. I like the cougars as well. I like cougars. Let's go cougars. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Next, we got Baylor going to TCU. Oh, man. TCU really let us down. I'm going to roof those Baylor Bears to make that Auburn win look more strong, you know, when the playoff committee is considering Auburn. I'm going to go. Oh, that's tough. That is a tonus two and a half.
Starting point is 00:23:00 TCU, both four and two, two and one. playing at Amon G. Carter Stadium, Fort Worth, Texas, 84 degrees outside. Tickets is low as $68. Scott Robertson, 13, Baylor quarterback, 2,000 yards in the year, 19 TDs, 4 interceptions. Give me those Baylor Bears, do it for the War Eagles. I think that, I think that's a, if you're two and a half and you're at home, you're not really a favorite. All right. Oh, you going to. Wait, wait, wait, wait, so what did you pick?
Starting point is 00:23:31 I picked it. I agree. I picked the Baylor first. We're in use in there. No notes needed, yeah. No notes. No notes. No notes. No notes. No notes. Brief the slide. Oh, you going to play them Gamecox. It's Cocktober. October. October. Rough start. I'm going with
Starting point is 00:23:49 Gamecox. Got a ride with them. Got a ride or die. It's at home. They play well at home. Do they? I don't know that we've been watching the same team. They have three wins somewhere, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. And tall grass. Yeah, that is tough, though. I don't know. I think... I think we lose that game. I think we lose it by like 17, and the pressure's really turned up on Beamer.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Just... Here's the thing. And I really want to win this league, but I also want to pick the game of Cox, so that great can be the only one to not pick the game. Well, reverse psychology. I like it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Wait, wait, wait. Does that make this a note? Yeah, that's a note. Note that, okay. Not a note. Not a note. It's got to be a hot last minute take where someone says not so fast. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:48 We have Ole Miss going to Georgia. I got the dogs, man. I got the dogs. Old Miss. I've seen this game before, start out 6 and 0. Get into the top five and just abysmal fall. part. I've read this book so many times. A hundred times.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yes, every time. I've read it. Lane Kiffin, talk all the smack you want about Kirby Smart. The dogs, the dogs all day. Dude, he was brutal. Do you see what he said? He's like, brutal. He's lost. Yeah, he just said Kirby doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:21 look like he's lost any weight. Is that something about burning calories during the game? He said, doesn't look like he's burning calories to me. Okay. So you got dogs, Jeffrey, you got? Oh, I'm going Bulldogs. Although, one save round from the Auburn recap game against Georgia was the whole like where Kirby Smart pulled the old fast one
Starting point is 00:25:45 where he like calls a timeout, 100% calls a timeout. And then he's like, no, no, no, I was clapping. I was clapping. And they're like, oh, oh, he was clapping. No time out, no time out. And I looked up old footage. does clap like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That's how he clapped at his daughter's wedding. Yeah. He doesn't want to show that I appreciate it, but like I don't want to make a lot of noise. The Kirby clap, yeah. Kirby clap. Yeah. Don't catch it.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I would make a note on that one. I like Ole Miss here. But I hope Ole Miss wins, but I think Georgia will. Okay. So the team is picking Georgia. yeah the team pick Georgia I made a note of all of this you don't really get to make notes it's kind of my
Starting point is 00:26:37 okay you have to have your own like little thing you have to think of something different like what's what's another way to say make a note I made the notes you could say something like write it down
Starting point is 00:26:49 write that down right that down you know what I mean that says but guys file it away for me I want you to file this way I'm the make a note guy you can say you can
Starting point is 00:27:00 you could be the stare at it guy stare at that result next week all right let's go the next one I have no idea on this one Old Dominion going to James Madison
Starting point is 00:27:13 Oh Lord Oh JMU Gotta go JMU Yeah I think JMU too I had a high school football coach Went to Jamie What conference is that Mac?
Starting point is 00:27:24 No clue I think you're I think that's the Mac It's not Mac that's not the Mac I hear that is it the Mountain West is it the Pact 12 now is that what the Pact 12 is
Starting point is 00:27:38 Conference USA I thought they were in the big 10 I thought they were like some conference I thought the Big 10 I thought all teams went to the Big 10 they're not they're not in the American Big Sky I think they're non-conference
Starting point is 00:27:58 like the Underdame Are they have football? team but i'm about to give up are they in this is not fcs right like or whatever what's the uh i don't know i james the sunbelt i sundbell already checked it not there james are you not googling the right things look it says they joined the sunbelt in 22 hey syri what conference is oh they're in the sunbell they're in the sunbelt they're the sunbelt the James Madison, Duce? You're kidding me?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Two seconds. That took a way too long. Not only are they in the Sunbelt. They're in first in the Sun Melt. Three and O in conference. 5 to one. Big James. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Big Jam, you guy. Go do. Old Dominion. They've only lost to Louisville. They beat the breaks off on Liberty and Georgia Southern and Georgia State. They beat up on those southern schools. James Madison. James.
Starting point is 00:29:00 you all right we're going to use this all right we got pin state going to iowa iowa yeah i feel like that's a great let the blood letting happen yeah all right love to see it here's one we got missouri going to auburn go tigers yeah go tigers that's safe bed all right i picked the tigers pick the war damn eagles i got they got pro auburn i think yeah I'm picking Auburn. It's another night game at Auburn. They have to pull one of these out, right? The crowd was fired up for that first half of the Georgia game.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I'll tell you what. Cam Newton was in the stands, got his jersey retired. He was all over the place. That funny hat on his head. Dressed like a Renaissance fair meets a hip-hop concert meets, I don't know, a Western, Eastern European. talking about how he was recruited to play tight-in at South Carolina by Spurrier. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Last one. We have the war in Utah. The youths go into the BYU. I got right with the youths. But that's going to be a good game, I think. It's a big game. It's really like a spiritual warfare game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:25 More than more than it is a football game. that is true yeah i'm going with the mormons yeah i tend to i'm kind of ah coogs this is tough jeff you pick the utes i picked the yutes all right grant make a note i'm going to youths no make a note not so fast guys
Starting point is 00:30:46 b yu cougars the ghost of joseph smiths get a come down on a golden tablet and boom win the game dang all right that's it that was Tray's okay podcast picks
Starting point is 00:31:02 you could say his picks are okay okay okay okay okay they're okay okay green grid iron grid iron green go by a helmet by a mini helmet also check up BW text LLC.com all right Jeff where are we headed
Starting point is 00:31:16 we don't have a staff meeting so I'm kind of lost without my staff yeah well you know slide show couldn't get uploaded because teams doesn't work because the team's FSR is furloughed, so, uh, no teams. So, uh, we're just going to do this off the cuff. Um, I feel like there's been some topics that Grant's been itching to get to as far as talking about what his buddy's been up to.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Oh, yeah. So I want to hear about Australia. That one's been on there for a long time. Australia. I see about down. Australia, yeah. Australia, mate. Australia.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Uh, let's see. Yeah, Grant's buddy did a little ship short. action, went in for some Australia, made the front page of the Wall Street Journal. How about that? You know, to turn China down there. No, Australia was cool. I'm assuming neither of you have been. No. Australia, it is, this is going to be such a compliment to Trey, but I just don't know how it's to explain it. It is the Texas of London. It is like, like these people, kind of seem British and like Londony except they're just like rednecks
Starting point is 00:32:29 and they're awesome huge fan of Australians let's see went into Sydney first had a port call that was first port call after being bolted up on ship you go out and Sydney kind of like a New York City type very clean opera house pretty nice but I mean the nice thing is like you're in a foreign country food's different I mean you're in Sydney so a lot of the stuff's like the same but everyone it's like Americans with funny accents, you know. So Sydney was, was pretty, was pretty cool. Big fan, Sydney
Starting point is 00:33:00 recommended. Very far, but cool. Do they like Americans? Yeah, very pro-American. And like, we'll just jump right in their Army defense force, Australian Army defense force. Those dudes want to fight, man. They're like ready to sign up for any war, anywhere, all the time. Like, I'll tell you what, if I got to fight with allies, put me in with some Australia. like those dudes are just ready to brawl so we got on the deck we did a bunch of different stuff supporting a bunch of different things my favorite part of it was we were doing this shoot combined live fire combined joint live fire firing exercise so it's like a bunch of artillery pieces there so you got uh Australian high mars USA high mars Singapore high mars uh I think
Starting point is 00:33:50 there was one more high mars unit can't remember who it was then you got like the Japan hands, Chu Sui or something like shoots down drones. I forgot I was called. I'm butchering that name. But that was pretty cool. Yeah, the Koreans there with their propelled, self-propelled artillery.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And then we had a gun position where we had four howitzers and the Aussies had four howitzers and were just set up in a joint combined battery. And it was probably like the most fun. I've had in a field up in a long time. Just because it's like, you know, we had all the guns staggered. You had two FDCs right next to each other.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And part of it, you know, we probably wouldn't in place like that and sit there for a week, but it's all preparation to do this, you know, joint live fire exercise basically to show like, hey, look at all this firepower that we have down here, you know, allied with the United States, you know, China messaging, that sort of thing. But seeing their gun lines, how they operate was really cool. They had what they call the battery gunny. They didn't call him the battery gunny. I've forgotten now.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's been so long because you guys have refused to talk about this for months. It's true. Now I can't remember. They have a battery star major, which is like kind of their first sergeant, except he grows up as no 8-11, whatever their equivalent is as a candidate ear, but then he becomes the guy. Oh, that guy, all he was about is haircuts and cigarette butts. But also like the technical employment of the howitzer.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So it's kind of interesting. But yeah, those dudes were cool. It was an interesting field up. The way that the hill was set up, I got to call for fire with the regulations that they had. So it's like, I'm up on the hill behind the battery. I can see the battery. I can see the target and like the battery commanders for both units were the ones calling for fire. So it's kind of old school gunnery, how you're supposed to do it.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So that was pretty cool. So we'd get in, you know, their version of a JLTV and just like go grinding up this hill. like no PPE on, just gear flying everywhere, not for the Marines, obviously, but it's a little bit more laid back over there. But yeah, Australian Army Defense Force, great guys, a lot of slang, very crass talkers. Yeah, the most fun part was we'd go into these meetings every night and it's like the one-star Australian general and then it's like you know an Australian full bird colonel and a light kernel and then at the table you'd have like I was like the lead marine because we had like mortars and 50 cows and there stuff there but I was like the lead
Starting point is 00:36:30 planner she had me cross from me is the Australian triple seven guy to my right is the Japan to his right uh is Malaysia I think about no Singapore across the table you know We got all these different countries. And so every day we'd go in there and everyone just kind of looked at me funny because I would walk in with like a giant thing of milk because we'd get there and I wouldn't have eaten many MREs all day. And so like the building had a refrigerator. And if you open the fridge, they had liters of milk.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And so every night I had to go to this meeting at 1900 and it was kind of my dinner because I'd missed dinner back at the pause, they'd hot chow. And so I'd go in there, I'd get the milk. and like all the Koreans and the Japanese and Singapore people would just like stare at me for like drinking the milk. And so then I realized so I would just like kind of play into it. And yeah, they were like they would have like their their PAO teams like taking photos of me like drinking milk.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And I just kept rolling with it. And they were like, oh, milkman, milkman. And then finally like on the last day, the general's like he's saying something because you got like all these three and four. stars coming in. I don't remember exactly what he said, but he was like talking about the porta-potties, like lock the porta-potties. The port-potties, he'd be clean, no trash, no
Starting point is 00:37:52 trash, and he's big on trash, Australian trash. Love hearing that. And he's like, see, we don't need any anybody, you know, blowing their guts out. And everyone like kind of looked at me and I was like, what, I drink milk all the time. I'm good. And it was funny.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I don't remember. There was more comments, but you guys refused to talk about this for so long. I can't remember. I can't remember. But yeah, Australia. Pretty good. I had an Australian accent down. I've lost it. I'm back into Arrogato, because I'm like, but Australian. What did you get to do? What did you get to do in Sydney? Sydney, I mean, we didn't have a ton of time off. We had this driver. I had a driver as like the XOT, the XOT, XO troops for the boat. So that was kind of a game changer. So it was like this name was Will. We called him Will the driver. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:44 He would just take us around. Yeah, real original. We ate food, went up to the beach, like saw a lighthouse. They made fun of me because we get in and he's like, where you guys want to go today, mate? I was like, oh, I don't know. Like, you got any like cool castles or something?
Starting point is 00:39:05 And he was like, a castle. I was like, yeah, I feel like, I don't know, like you should have like a castle. Castle in Australia. No castles. No castles. assholes. I went to Bondi Beach. Yeah, we met a guy that we called the dribbler. We were at a pizza spot and some
Starting point is 00:39:23 guy comes up to us. He's just like half drunk, just starts dribbling at us. We learned that term from Will the Driver. It's like a person at a bar that won't stop talking. Yeah, I'm from such, so it's about to go on vacation. I got a date that I found online. And he like pulls up a photo of Sidney Sweeney. And we're all like, yeah. okay. He's at not, none of my mates believe me either. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, the dribbler. There's a lot of dog. There's a lot of betting going on
Starting point is 00:39:52 all over Australia. Like everywhere you go, it's like, you can bet. It's like you're in Vegas. Like, you can bet the dogs. Will the driver is really big into betting the dogs. So we're sitting there eating pizza. He's got like some app on his phone. He's just like, all right, we're pulling for, you know, moon face or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:08 So betting the dogs. It's actually pretty funny. We were doing our little health assessment when we got back here. two different people that were with us that day. It was like, do you gamble? And they were like, no. And they took a photo and sent to me. They were like, betting the dogs.
Starting point is 00:40:22 So I'm betting the dogs in Australia. Highly recommended. After Sydney, after training, we went to, well, actually, we did another time we went ship to shore for this exercise. And the exercise, the land we were on was like rented to us by Australian civilians. So they just get like a check to open it. And then they would just come out and watch us. Like, they would just, like, come up on, like, a four-wheeler, like, drinking a beer.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Hey, what's up? I'm the landowner. You're like, oh, what's going on, man? Yeah, pretty interesting. You guys tracking Vegemite? Oh, yeah. I've had it. My dad's a big Vegemite fan.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I'm a fan. I'm a big fan of it. It's a definite acquired taste. The first time I had it, I was like, oh, my, oh, my Lord. But you kind of get used to it, and it's acquired. I think you just got to get the rest of it. ratio, right? I'm not a heavy Vegemite guy. I like
Starting point is 00:41:18 I liked it fine. I don't know that there'll be any in my cupboards when I return. Right. Yeah. Yeah, Vegemite. What else we have for food? That was unique. I ate some kangaroo. Saw some ruse.
Starting point is 00:41:35 That was a kangaroo. It was fine. I had like kangaroo burger and was that in. Kind of like, no, that was in Cairns I was about to say your Sydney trip sounds like a fever dream
Starting point is 00:41:51 it's like fever yeah like Will the driver drove us around he was betting on dogs and then this guy went on a date with Sydney Sweeney I was like yeah that's what I call on Sydney that or is this
Starting point is 00:42:04 no it's weird well you have so little time on a port call yeah as Jeff knows I did not know that and Trey maybe like I I don't know what I thought. I think I just never thought through it. But I kind of assume it's like, oh, you're doing the whatever mew.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Oh, you're going to be in road to Spain. And I guess in my mind there was like a, you thought it was like a cruise ship. I mean, I didn't think it was a cruise ship. But I didn't realize it's like, yeah, we pull in Tuesday at this time. We got to resupply the ship. You're going to get like released at 2100, have to be back at zero one. Then the next day you have 12 hours before we pull out.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And it's like, oh, there's like not. actually a lot of time to do anything. Yeah, that's not much time. So you're not set up like excursions before you get there is what you're saying. No, because you don't even know when you're going to get there. Like one of our second one, it's like, you're going to Townsville. It's like, oh, sweet, Townsville. It's like, you're not going
Starting point is 00:42:58 to Townsville. You're going to wherever. Oh, sweet. We're going to whatever. Like, you're not going there. You're going here. And it's like, oh, so I really can't plan anything until we're docked. Oh, shocking. We're sold out now because this entire force showed up and everything sold out. The Navy guys
Starting point is 00:43:14 always be booking a little bit ahead of you. I mean, I got good. They always got the scoop. Yeah, the ship XO and I became buds. He'll be a future guest. He's still out on the warship. But he's the one to play football with Donnie Bowers. And so I
Starting point is 00:43:28 always knew, like when there was info to be known on where we were going, I was in the know. So I appreciate the XO of the Duce. Deuce. Yep. Australia. Australia. Australia, Mike, man.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah. Yeah, Australia, mate. Well, I don't listen, land talking. If you want to keep ruminating on your, on Grant's buddies's, uh, adventures, the Jungle Warfare Training Center. Have you been? I put, have you been in Japan? Uh, we did a, we did a Libo in Okinawa.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Oh, what a beautiful destiny. Fantastic divination. Two nights, two nights, three nights, nights. Yeah. So where'd you stay? Oh gosh Who we were kind of in a hotel Not the American Village
Starting point is 00:44:17 Okay yeah Near Camp Costa area Yeah and then Kind of yeah just hung out around there I don't remember where we pulled in But White Beach maybe no I don't know Yeah white beach that's it
Starting point is 00:44:31 That's the spot that's the spot Yeah Well nothing's changed here Nocut now is still really hot It's about to get Mohada JWCC, Jungle Warfare Training Center for you non-military types or non-marine types. Every unit that deploys out here to Okinawa seems to go up there. If you're part of a Italian landing team, the grunts get really excited about it
Starting point is 00:44:56 and talk about how great a training it is and it actually is. But it is just, it's hot. it's hot all the bugs you can imagine it's kind of hard to describe so they've currently right now you're not allowed to train up night at night right there which was kind of good so the way we set up the train was like we go up we have bivak black area you set it up your bivouac area and then we conducted like
Starting point is 00:45:25 lane training all different sorts of stuff from like you know 07 until dark and then at dark it was like okay hygiene try to sleep but it was just so stinking hot. And at night, you get these little one-man bug nets, which I'd never really use and already got, I'm used to just sleeping on the hood, but you have this one-man bug nets that they issued
Starting point is 00:45:46 specifically for units going there. So I'm like, it's probably pretty important that I bring it. And it is because otherwise you'll just get beaten to all ends by bugs. So you days finally over, you're just soaking wet the whole time. Like you're soaking wet. Like, you can't even, like you wake up and you soak, like you sweat while you sleep.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It's like really weird. So you're just wet all the time. then all the you're in the jungle so a bunch of water you're getting into but when you go to bed like what i didn't want is to come back with malaria you know from like all these bug bites and stuff so every night so you zip up your thing but as soon as you zip up your thing and you add in 220 pounds of mass into that thing it just becomes like an oven and this is with the rain fly up because but it's don't worry it's going to rain in the middle of the night and so you lay down in there you're just like in your chonies and it's just like sweat and just like pouring off your body.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And that's what I'll remember about J-Dubs. But the training was actually really fun. We didn't go up there for too long. We were up there for five days. And so we had a repel tower one day, which is like a cliff face, which pretty cool. A lot of hasty repels with the endurance course one day,
Starting point is 00:46:54 which Jeff may have some questions about. And then we had like two days of like squad, infantry tactics and like a force on force. So yeah, it was fun. But it's like the Wild West up there. like you just get up there and i mean you're just in the jay you're just in the jungle and you just do it there's no air on station it's like if you got a medevac it's two hour drive and you're just like all right here we go but uh yeah you know some stuff about the de course jeff is that why you
Starting point is 00:47:25 mentioned it no i i just you know you always see like you know the combat camera photos or like Instagram posts of like Marines going through it. So like it looks pretty, it looks like it's a one of those good times that you never want to have again kind of thing. Tier two fun. Tier two fun. How long is the course? It was, I think it's like two, a little over two miles.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It, it is challenging. But it actually is a lot of fun. And it's like one of those things that a lot of Marines like, I'm not really excited about this. And then, like, once you get going, they're in. So I did it. You have to have two jungle leaders, which is someone that's done a five-week course up there, like one of the weeks they don't eat anything except snakes and, like, chickens that they catch out there.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So you have two of those people to do it. So the day before the unit did it, I did it. And then I did it again, obviously. And it's like down hasty repels, but like you actually got to like wear the gloves and like use the rope. It's not like when you're hiking in a national park. and there's like a rope there, but you just, you know, boulder down. Like, you actually got to do that stuff. There's a lot of areas where, like, you jump in the water and cross the stream.
Starting point is 00:48:41 A lot of ups and downs, kind of like Quantico in terms of elevation change. There's like a cable, rope cable that you, you know, just two cables. Your hands are on one, your feet on the other, and you cross a large body of water. There's another area where it's like a really steep rappel down. And then it's not supposed to be a swimming hole, but we kind of made it a swimming hole. So it's supposed to go down and cross and just go up. But we, there's like a high dive up there with a cable on it. So we made part of it as you get on the cable and then you come out over the water.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You're probably like 30, 40 feet in the air and then let go and drop down into the water. Yeah. So it was pretty cool. And it's so hot. Like anytime you can get in the water, I mean, just in general, not even on the e-course. Anytime there was a body of water, I was just jumping in, like, fully clothed. Dutch. I mean, you're already soaking wet, so you might as well cool off. And then it ends with this thing called the pit and pond,
Starting point is 00:49:37 which was really hyped up to me by people of like how disgusting it was. And I got to the pit and pond. And it's, I don't know, like in Georgia, I feel like they just call it water. It's like that red, it's like that red clay mud, you know? So it's about like waste, a little bit above waist deep and you're like trudging through. There's barbed wire over your head. So you got to like duck and like get under the water. and then there's like a wooden structure
Starting point is 00:50:02 that you have to like submerge to go through. There's like a Quigley style kind of like culvert deal. Okay. And then there's like a spot where like you take a casualty and then there's like a plexiglass little house that you've like dragged
Starting point is 00:50:18 the person through. I expected to be a lot worse. Not saying that it wasn't bad or gross. But I have there's going to be like snakes jumping out and like slithering in your ears. And, uh, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't, it's gross, but it wasn't quite so bad.
Starting point is 00:50:37 But yeah, that's the Jay. Hmm. That's the jungle. Check it. Bucket list. Complete. Marine Corps bucket list. Is that something you think you would have enjoyed 15 years ago?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah. I think I would have been, I think, I mean, I enjoyed it now. I can actually say that truthfully. I was definitely a lot more cautious. Like, I don't want to like roll an ankle. I don't want to like, like, take a fistful of rocks to the face. I think 15 years ago,
Starting point is 00:51:06 I would have been like, can I do the E-course 10 times in one day? You know, like, but it's fun. It's not too long. You do it as a squad when you go through it. So it's, it's like cool team building stuff. There's the classic like,
Starting point is 00:51:21 you know, cargo ropes that you jump into and climb over. There's like the walls that you need buddies to throw over. It was good. And it was really good for my buddy's unit for kind of where we're at of like having another thing to go do. It's a little bit different than what we normally do. You get to put on cammy paint and, you know, yell at each other and scream and butter, butter, jam and all that stuff. But it was not mad when I came out of the Jay. No.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That's good. Yeah. Man, Jay. It's a pretty good time. Yeah, it's a good time. Yeah, it's here. Now looking back, looks great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:58 right yeah yeah great dang dang now now is this in the little uh topic chat here is this bowing or bowling without the l bowling without the l i could see you being a big bowler uh yeah like i enjoy it like i don't i'm not in a week or anything yeah i could i can see myself being in a week i got I got into it in, uh, into a lot in Oklahoma. I got into it. Okay. That's good place. Jeff, you're into it?
Starting point is 00:52:34 I mean, it's been, I'm trying to remember the last time I went, I went bowling. I feel like in high school, I had a couple buddies that we, for like, I don't know, there was like a six month period where we got pretty into bowling and like, probably went like once or twice a week for like six months. And we got, we got pretty into it. What could you bowl? Oh, gosh. I don't remember like I want to like I think I probably like broke 200 a couple times but not good that's like once or like maybe twice what's your best tray man I feel like 170 something okay yeah 170 maybe it was like high 170's low 180s maybe is a spin guy or a straight down
Starting point is 00:53:22 the pipe no I'm straight down the pipe I'm straight down the pipe baby I'm straight down the pipe baby I'm straight down the pipe too. Yeah, no, I've been into bowling. It's not a ton to do on these bases, especially when theater's broken and all that kind of stuff. But there is bowling alley. That's weird hours, but it is open. And we've been bowling. I've bowled a lot in the last few months. What's your, what's your score? Yeah. 172. So you guys are both better than me or you're lying. I'm just kidding. No, I would say I have got, I've always been a, hey, I bowl twice a year. And I'm like, put me down for a hundred or maybe a 120.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And now it's kind of like a 140s, a bad game. Okay. But I haven't broke 200. And that's what I'd like to do. Nice. But yeah, we've been getting fired up in there. You know, go in there with eight or nine Marines at seven at night, get a couple lanes going, touch tunes rolling, just chucking balls down.
Starting point is 00:54:17 And it's interesting, all the different styles, you know, the spin. And it's like, like there's some guys that bowl. and it's like the hand comes way back the ball like curves perfect and it's like yeah man you're picking up a spare just like me eight and two uh you know um so yeah i mean i think the spin is the way to go uh with like the chaos down there that happens but i just i grabbed the heaviest ball about 15 pounder and i just chuck it down like a seven ton and just wash the pins explode and i'm a straight down the middle kind of guy um yeah but I always said that always said that always said that yeah dang uh oh Trey you've been back in the gym hmm no not this week I have not have you been thinking about the gym yeah I've been thinking
Starting point is 00:55:14 about it well if you got tax questions I if I got tax questions I usually call BW but yeah Usually when I have lifting questions, I call Graham. That being said, I have, it's not so much a question this week. It's more of trying to coach's anecdotal story that I would like to hear. Do you have, can you think of like a time where someone, they said, hey, I'm injured. I got a nagging injury, long-term injury, and then lifting fixed it. Basically, I guess what I'm trying to get down to is, like, maybe someone who's on the older side of life, like, you know, kind of closer to the tail end, like, never lifted, but then like their quality of life improved through lifting. Have you seen that a lot?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah, that's the majority, I'd say, of who we cater to at, like, the gym and in our online coaching services. But I've said it before on here and on YouTube. We definitely have power lifters and people that do it as a sport. but in general, it's, you know, hey, I went to the doctor, told me I need to do resistance training to increase my bone density. I don't know how to do it. I have chronic back pain. My son's been telling me for a long time, I should deadlift. I'm finally listening to him. I have, you know, my sciatic is super flared up. I read Dr. Sullivan's book and, you know, here like that's generally who we deal with and those people are actually better and i don't mean
Starting point is 00:56:52 what what i mean by that is they have much more to be improved and to gain than like a 26 year old so a 26 year old yes he can like put on mass he can get bigger and like look better which is what a lot of 26 year olds care about but in terms of like the ability to do things day to day there is a change and like getting way stronger. But older people realize what they've lost, right? Whereas the younger person doesn't realize that, hey, I should go ahead and get strong now so that I can be strong my entire life and not lose it. An older person is like, man, when I was 35, I could go snow skiing and not be out for a week or whatever the activity is. Now I go do this thing and I'm out of commission for weeks. And so I think those folks are more consistent
Starting point is 00:57:46 and they care about their training more. And if it's someone that has dealt with chronic back pain, which is probably one of the key drivers of folks to the gym, if you've lived with chronic back pain and then the back pain goes away, you never want the back pain to come back, right? Because you've been on the other side of, wow, this is absolute misery when I go to bed thinking about it. I can't sleep because of it.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I get out of bed thinking about it. So those folks that have pain or some type of like chronic injury are usually stick with it longer. The other problem is with those kind of folks, say if you have a guy that has really bad back pain, actually going to try a bunch of stuff with you until we figure out how to make it better. Sometimes people come in with back pain and you can have deadlift right off the floor, 135 pounds and they start to feel better.
Starting point is 00:58:45 they can't get in that position soon you got to like rack pull but if they add any weight to the bar it still really hurts and so you're going like 60 pounds 65 pounds 70 pounds and because like that movement is helping they'll keep coming or because you've told them like hey keep coming but it might take a month before they're on the floor you know deadletting say 135 pounds for a set of five that then they can actually work the full range of motion and it might be two months before they're actually seeking seeing strength adaptations because at first it's like, hey,
Starting point is 00:59:21 how can I relieve some pain so that you can do the movement? Okay, now that you're doing the movement, I know that you have a chronic problem, so I don't want to like shock it, so to speak, or like, have you have any form deviation that could cause the pain to come back? So I've got to increase it really slow.
Starting point is 00:59:37 So I'm increasing it really slow, so it takes even longer before you start to see the physical adaptations occur of like, oh, wow, I'm developing muscle. like I feel better all the time. So yeah, definitely seen it a good bit with older folks and with young people too. You know, see people with sciatic pain. That's an interesting one.
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's like, what do you do about sciatic pain? I don't know, but for some people, just doing the back squat slowly over time makes it better. For some people, it doesn't. For some people, front squatting can make it better. I'll tell you, like trying to use it and train it seems to work better in, my opinion than like rolling around on a lacrosse ball and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that there's like some trigger port stuff that really works for people I think sometimes it's placebo but you know what placebo is real it's a real effect so um but sciatic's another common
Starting point is 01:00:29 one where if people have had it and I had it when I was lifting back when I lived with Jeff actually and it was like a four-month thing I was going to chiropractor I was doing acupuncture I was doing cupping you know I like tried everything and then when I ran out of money from all that. I just kept squatting and deadlifting. And then one day it was gone. I'm like, I don't know what the thing was that fixed it, but I know that it wasn't doing nothing. Right. So, so yeah. Yeah, I'd be curious if you think like a lot of people who say, oh, I got this back pain, whatever it might be, especially as they get older, how much that comes just from like a sedentary lifestyle versus something actually being wrong. And then as they get in there, like the
Starting point is 01:01:14 motion is lotion kind of things fix it pretty quick so yeah i think a lot of people too don't realize that like upright mammals have bulging disc we all have degenerative disc we all have slipped disc and it's amazing to me even young men that are like oh yeah sir saw you in the gym you're looking at weight i'm like yeah i can like give you some pointers no i got a bulging disc it's like you're 24 and it's like, yeah, but I, you know, I got an x-ray once. And it's like, hey, man, like, no one goes in and gets an x-ray after living 30 years on the planet and, like, all their bones look perfectly. And so I think sometimes it's just an excuse. So, like, here's what I found. If the pain is real and the bulging desk or the degenerative disc or whatever it is, is really real
Starting point is 01:02:08 that the pain is so bad, then the people are like, okay, I've tried everything else. Now I'll go try and learn how to squat and deadlift because I've given up and I can't live like this and those people have success for people that like tell me that they have that pain I say hey I actually helped a lot of people with back pain and they never come in I'm like it's the pain's not the bad because you're just you're just living with it yeah you're just living with it or talking about it and it's your it's your reason to not come in and add five pounds will work really hard in the gym and I and I also say there are there are a lot there are a lot of folks I know too with 500-pound deadlifts, you know, heavy lifters that deal still with like back pain.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Like that is, that is 100% true. I remember when I graduated college and I took, when it became a concrete plant manager, had to get like a mixed design school. And the guy up there, redneck in North Carolina is like, when you go to get your doctors, when you go to become a doctor, physician, they say, welcome to medical school. people die he said when you come to concrete school we say welcome to concrete school concrete cracks and it's our job to design a mix to manage it and paul horn would say at his gym up in l.A if you come in here with back pain and you want to learn to lift I can promise
Starting point is 01:03:31 you're back you're going to tweak your back again like your back is going to hurt again what we're trying to do is like management so that most of the time it's much better And so I say that to say, it's not just like, oh, people won't put in the hard work and lift heavy, and that's why they have back pain. My point is, is if the muscles around your back and your spine and all that area where you're experiencing pain, if you get stronger, you're more resilient against tweaks and setbacks. And then when you have setbacks, most people tweak their back out of the gym, not in the gym. But when you have it, you now have the tools. Sometimes it's just the confidence of, hey, I'm a 450 pound deadlifter. my back really hurts, but I'm going to go into the gym
Starting point is 01:04:15 in motion as the lotion and deadlift, 135 for three sets of 10. And I have the confidence to do that because I know how strong I am, and then I'm just in a bunch of pain right now. And there's many a time where someone hurts their back. They come into the gym, they lift light for a little while. And within five to seven days, they're back deadlifting 400 pounds or whatever they were supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:04:36 So, yeah, get to the gym, lift through the back pain. I'm going to get on the bar this week. No one texted us. He inspired me. You got to. All right. Save rounds. Alibis.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Save round. I started watching, did I mention this last week? We started watching Severance. No. No, you didn't mention it. No. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:05:01 No. Good show. So far, so good, man. It's pretty good. It's kind of how Grant's buddy feels. So far so good. Severed. Severed.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Severed. Well, okay. Well, then, I got to save around then. We're just finished up, what, episode six of Task on HBO, HBO Max, whatever it's called now, Max. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Task and purpose? It's called Task and it's Mark Ruffalo and I don't know any of the other actors names in it.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So like Mark Wahlberg's cousin? What's that? Yeah. Mark Walbrooke's cousin. Yeah, they're related. All marks are related to each other. Mark Ripiktoe, Mark Wahlberg, Mark Ruffalo.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yeah, yeah. So, Marky, Mark, and the funky bunch. That's right. They actually are related, yeah. That's true. See? All right, Tray, bring this thing down for a landing.
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