The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP. 80: Quiche Fallout, The Jungle & Back Pain
Episode Date: October 17, 2025Podcast Hosts:Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach.Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and LifterTres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, ...Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and LifterJoin the Slack and Use code OKAY:https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ksCheck out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.comBUY A FOOTBALL HELMET: https://www.greengridiron.com/?ref=thestrengthco14th Marine Reg T Shirts: https://usafulfillmentservices.com/14th-marine/This episode covers a mix of humor, military life, and sports—ranging from the government shutdown affecting Marines’ pay, to college football chaos, to Grant’s deployment stories from Australia. Expect signature OKP banter, chaos, and heartfelt storytelling.Timestamps: 00:00 - Quiche Fallout00:00 - No Staff Brief Because of Gov’t Shutdown08:19 - College Football, Tre’s Picks of The Week31:20 - Australia was awesome43:47 - Jungle Warfare Training Center52:04 - Bowling55:00 - Lifting & Back Pain01:04:29 - Saved Rounds
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all right and welcome back to episode 080 of the okay podcast powered by the strength co
i am your host grant broge we are recording live from inside the web wes web wes the web
was the weapon engagements zone of what is the web uh the price bitcoin today is 11319 000 and 60 cents again we
tripled since the first time we recorded this podcast coming up on episode 80 but it's really
or this is episode 80 but it's been longer than that uh grant's buddy got deployed there for a while
uh so there was a short break but we've been bringing it to you have bitcoin's been on the rise
today's date depending where you are in the world is october the 15th in the year of our lord
2025 october 15th kind of like april 15th meaning if you're not thinking about your taxes you
should be bw tax he's fired up he's got the patriots back on top of the afc east uh four and two
beating up on everybody first time we've seen that since 2021 so what you want is a fired up bw tax
and bw tax is fired up and he's fired up to do your taxes bw tax lc.com also in studio today
joining us from the greater salt lake city area we have uh mr jeff bougier pronounced biggie for you
military types, major type, just a freeze-dried captain, wearing Oaklees, because that's what
reservists are. And also, Greatest O-402 ever grace, the presence of the spirit of St. Barbara,
now out. Joining us today from McAllen, Texas. Down on the border, down on the border, down in the
border is Mr.
Trey Robert
third
Gottlidge.
I need a disclaimer
that says I went to
artillery school
whenever you introduced me.
Oh yeah.
He's an artillery officer
in case you're not tracking.
He's just also a log of.
Lots of exciting things
to talk about today,
just like there is every week.
Got some feedback last week.
A lot of people upset about the Kish.
It's a lot of people
upset about Kish.
One, one of our outlinks.
stations Andy Herbert dialed in said bad take by Grant how does he feel about frittatas I think
he's just upset the Penn State can't win football games anymore I think she's I think
she's a good a good take um yeah had a had a potluck lady potluck lady who might be the wife
of another 04 major 05 select say like ooh quiet quietly quietly scratches keish off of Sunday's potlop
and then my wife's like, now everyone's going to hate me
and think that I'm the snobby anti-Kisher
and I'm like, I can't believe that someone's wife
listens to this podcast. And she's like, well, she probably doesn't. She probably follows it
on Instagram. And I was like, well, she ought to subscribe on YouTube. That's
what she ought to do. So Kish, yeah, Kish, good
talk. I like stuff that ruffles feathers.
But without further ado, let's
kick it over to the three.
Oh, well, in light of everything that's going on, we're not, no one's getting paid, but people are getting paid.
So somehow there's like pots of money that are there that can be utilized, but there's not other pots of money.
So like the troops are going to get paid, but they're not, but they are.
I don't know.
I know I'm not going to get paid and I'm a reserve.
Hey, trash sticks here.
What are the two things you don't mess with?
For Marines.
Chow.
Chow and pay and Libbo.
He said two things.
Yeah, that's right.
Good adjustment there.
Chow pay and Libbo usually pays a given.
But we improvise, we adapt to overcome.
What's the current status of your paycheck there, three?
Pending.
It's pending.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, a little.
excuse me, sir, where'd you get that
who'd you get that
fancy coffee maker?
Yeah, what?
Well, website did you order that from?
Oh, www.
Thestrength.com.
You can get everything that's ever needed.
But they make plates, right?
They also make coffee makers.
They make plates.
They make cast iron and everything's made in America
except for one, one item,
which is made in the Italy.
And that's the Bricka, Bialetti.
Bialetti Bureka, 2.0.
It's a great addition.
Wow.
Better than one.
point out. If you're not watching on YouTube, then you wouldn't know that I'm in an unauthorized
uniform making coffee in my barracks room. But I had to make my time hack. I thought I was going
to change the whole fit. Just got to change the top. So, Jordy, just make sure every time I stand up,
you cover me in a kilt or something. Oh, excellent. Anyway, yeah, not getting paid. Still coming to
work. Still coming to work. Not getting paid. What else is new? It's great. It's great.
the government shutdown is actually a topic near and dear to Grant's buddy's heart
because yeah kind of affects you know what we'd call the redeployment
and yeah so I don't know who I need to talk to I don't care if you're a Republican
a Democrat a Libertarian
Green Party America Party
I don't know what other parties there are yeah could you guys
turn the government back on I'd like to come home so if you could turn the government back
out that'd be great it'd be great for no more power outages be great for MCCS facilities to be
open yeah let's get that power turn back on okay it's not just turn on like a week yeah just
a week like you know great yeah yeah just yeah turn that power on well yeah it is funny I'm in
the, you know, dual
hatting. So I'm in
the, you know,
my, so Grant's buddy's deployed.
Grant is a reservist. So he's
in a lot of reserve chats. And there's a lot of
there's a lot of, a lot of talk
about pay right now.
A lot of talk about pay.
So,
hey.
What are you going to do? I think that concludes this meeting
then. I know Trey is most
excited for that. We're not getting paid.
So we're not meeting.
We're protesting, the government shut down, all the elected officials that are in office right now.
She'd get fired and be.
We're not doing a staff meeting until the pays back on.
I'll see you on another side, boys.
Make sure you keep securing that trash.
Secure the trash.
Trash of the priority, especially in shutdown.
People lose motivation to lose side of the mission.
Don't lose side of the mission.
The mission is trash.
Trash shicks out.
Attention on deck.
Oh, boom.
Speaking of outlying stations, got a message from a major low and tight that said,
I just want to say that I've been self-reflecting on the way in which I leave meetings
at attention on deck, and I have been consciously trying to slow down my quick pop-up
from the table that sends my monster key and flying, and I'd never thought about it until you brought
it up. And that's kind of what we do in the OK podcast. We take the, we take the very obvious that
happens in front of your eyes day to day that you never think is funny or question. And we just
make it more obvious. That's kind of what we do. Making the obvious, more obvious, the OK
podcast. There we go. That's what we've always said. Yeah. It's our mission. If you look up,
yeah, what is the mission at the OK podcast? That's the mission. Making the obvious more obvious
and achieve accurate first round toilets for effect.
I'm picking up trash.
Okay.
I'd like to dive into college, some college football talk here.
Oh, shocking.
It was an interesting weekend.
And then some fallout from that weekend, especially if you're a Penn State fan.
They called me to be the coach.
Wow.
Yeah.
You want to go ahead and pull up all my notes?
I think they pay well.
I would accept that.
Yeah.
Well, it's been pretty good.
On your previous notes?
Yeah, all my notes.
You got all my notes there.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, we take copious notes.
Yeah.
All right, Jeff.
Take us through the recap.
Let's see.
Auburn found another way to lose, so they're just really good.
Yeah.
They're brutal.
What a brutal game.
The end of the first half was the half could not end fast enough.
It was disastrous.
Every minute led to some new thing.
That was just disaster for Auburn.
They made no second half adjustments defensively or offensively.
Hugh Freeze is terrible at calling plays.
I, I just freezes up.
Yeah, freeze.
He only calls it on.
What's the dynamic that they have?
It's kind of confusing.
Like there's a guy who calls plays on first and second down, a third down play caller.
And it's so dumb.
He freeze calls his third.
I don't know.
It was super.
I don't get it.
It's just like they need to.
Yeah.
He's garbage. He's garbage.
I was just funny. I thought he was going to be good there.
Yeah, I was hopeful, but I don't know. I think he's got to get canned.
But yeah, what's the, how that first happened?
Because the A&M game was going on at the same time.
Auburn started off great.
They're about to go up 17 to nothing.
They're on like the half yard line.
I don't remember how much time is left.
It's around under four.
minutes probably left in the half i think it was even less than that but fumble it on the half on the
half yard line you could go back on for back and forth whether he actually like got the ball over
the line whether he didn't whatever regardless like if the refs stole the touchdown from him or not like
hey just don't fumble the football on the half yard line and we're not talking about this and then
so they turn it over george gets the ball like marches down the field players
gets called for targeting on Auburn, gets kicked out of the game, just people getting
hurt, like just disastrous into the first half, and then they didn't really gain any yards
in the second half. So it's great.
Yeah, winning. Tough to do against tall grass. Yep. And I was ridden there for you for a little
while. I was on just some game cast. And I said, all right, George dogs. And yeah, it didn't work out.
I think we need more activity in the sports Slack channel.
If you're on Slack, we got like five new signups last week,
direct reflection of this podcast, obviously.
Get in the sports channel.
Get in the sports channel for a little sports talk.
If your team's losing, you've got to stay in there anyway.
Stay inside the Wes.
Yeah.
Right.
Well,
I was going to have to tail into the South Carolina game.
You pull the Norsellers.
So good.
And the team just so bad.
It's pretty.
Yeah. What a waste. What a waste of a quarterback.
Yeah, I don't know what to think there.
I thought we'd go one and three in this stretch.
I think we might go 0 and 4 in this stretch now.
It's time to fire Luke Day, strength of the distant coach.
Time to fire Mike Shula offensive coordinator.
They fired the O-line coach, right?
No, that's Sean Elliott.
Did I make them up?
I thought I thought I thought they made that out.
It's a weird thing to make.
anybody.
Yeah.
That's right.
Lonnie Tisley.
Yeah,
you're back.
You're right.
Okay.
Sean Elliott,
who was like the A
offensive coordinator
who was previously
the offensive line coach
is now the offensive line coach.
So kind of de-motion,
I guess.
But he's real good
at slapping people and screaming.
So maybe he'll slap him into submission.
I mean,
slapping and screaming works in the weight room.
I don't see why it could.
That's true.
No line.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, Oklahoma, on Oklahoma.
Oof, at Oklahoma.
I think I win that game.
You can win that game.
It's actually, yeah.
I feel like that one's getable,
especially after Washington.
I do, too.
I realize we couldn't beat Mizzou, right?
There's a good team.
They took Alabama into the water.
Mizzu's not bad.
Yeah.
I, yeah.
I think that thumb is, is an issue for me.
tier at Oklahoma. So I think
they're vulnerable. Oh, look at that.
Ah,
Maggie's. Texas A&M.
Texas A&M.
That's what a winning football
program looks like. Well,
the Citadel one.
So that's good. That is true. Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
It's a hate purple week.
It would play Furman.
We're,
we still got a shot at the Socon title.
Three and three, but two and one
in conference. You beat Furman.
pick up Mercer next week.
You'd be leading dogs on top.
Oh, Ryan.
Is there a fullback on that team still?
Yeah, there is.
Things are actually getting better over there.
And then luckily, I think the city will be able to soften up Old Miss a week before
South Carolina gets in there.
So, you know, just kind of wear them down a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tie him out.
Yeah.
Tire them out.
Yep.
I am curious.
Have you talked to your brother-in-law since A&M has been on this heater?
recently? I have not.
No, I haven't. I usually let A&M go on the heater.
And then when they lose, I'll think of you,
but I don't want to do that to you. So I just take it all
out in the head yell leader. And I just say, oh, man, tough game for the
Aggies. Didn't realize they were undefeated. Crazy.
Oh, man. I guess midnight yelled and go as well as you thought.
You should build a taller bonfire.
hey now what are you number four yeah they moved this ahead of will miss this week so
we'll see man I've you know during that game I was just thinking I'm like man I feel bad for
Olivia McLeod right now I think she'll be okay yeah she's fine there's one thing I've learned
about key sheeting women it's they care about sports and then they have kids and they don't
have time to care about sports and so I just don't pay attention as much hey yeah she got the
Tim Tebow years, like, yeah, she got it.
She's good.
She's good.
She's good.
No, A&M will good again, man.
Arkansas.
This week, yeah.
This week, Arkansas.
At Arkansas.
And then, but yeah, I think A&M's defense in the last three games have given up three
third downs.
So you're like, tough to do.
No, two third downs.
There are two out of 32.
Dang.
A long third down.
six in a row pretty good we'll see ma'am how bad you still got to do the other six but yeah so far so
good yeah yeah you got it's a you got to play four quarters of football it's a long season four
quarters can't fumble up the goal line too soon yeah no not too soon it's um jackson arnold deserve that
yeah let's see uh one of the big games before we go into tray's picks of the week uh obviously
my note, Indiana.
Yep, that was big.
Called that.
Just like I always do.
Did he call that?
100%.
I said number seven, Indiana, go.
100% called it.
I also called Wyoming the week before.
It didn't work out, but I was due.
And sometimes you guys aren't listening.
I was just due.
You know, I'm proud of us is we all went Colorado in Colorado.
Yeah, that's right.
Sometimes it just needs a little unity.
Yeah.
But, hold on, let me, do we do the recap of how he did?
Well, yeah, we're going to talk about Penn State losing
and then just going on that disaster skid.
And then the old chopping block for James Franklin.
He's gone.
That was too soon?
Or you think that was warranted firing?
Nah.
That's a warrant.
Like, for how much he's getting paid.
Like, I feel like it was warranted.
Needs results.
But he, historically, they have a big game that he wins.
Oh, he's like 1 in 15 against like top 5.
He doesn't win big games.
And like, you know, like you, you got to perform at that level.
So too bad for him.
He'll land on his feet with his $50 million.
Yeah, I think it'll be okay.
I can see him going to Arkansas.
See him coming to the Citadel.
Yeah.
He's in the Citadel.
I see.
I see Arkansas going after him.
I feel like that would be a good pickup for him.
Interesting.
Probably more realistic.
I don't know.
You never know.
and I never know you never know but did you hear about this uh private equity group
coming in and buying or uh like working out a deal for the big 10 oh yeah yeah it's like multi
billion dollar is it so i could be wrong it's either two billion or 200 billion i don't know
it's one of those i'm gonna go with the first one probably totally the same yeah once he get that
Yeah, once you've got $1 billion, what's another $919.
What's another $100.5.
What's you look at a per capita, it's fine.
Yeah, right.
Per capita.
You got to break it down that way.
Per capita, it could be $200 billion.
It's $2 billion.
Big Ten goes in on $2 billion capital agreement vote, sources said.
That's, this nearing decision.
They need to remember there's four quarters of football.
Yeah.
That is true.
It's near an decision.
If they can say five their coach, it might be backing out.
we'll see how that goes
let's see how there I go
all right
should we get into this
let's get into it
all right so
this week
this segment is this
this week's oh wait
you're doing a recap of last week
or we're going to the next weeks
I'll do recap
the last week
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all right so we were first place last week out of the group obviously we like to be we were in third
we have bumped up into second place now okay we're dogs we are two games behind the first place
guy who i thought we would never catch up to so that was a good week last week so we went let me see
we lost one two so we lost a tCU game we all picked tc u but so then everybody else um
I'm pretty sure I made a note
We all picked
OU, we lost that one
Yeah
And then we all picked
Oregon
I remember us all agreeing
to pick Oregon
Against Indiana
Yeah
All of us
All of us
No we did not
I said number seven
Indiana
I was just waiting for that to kick in
So yeah
Made a note
But no
Yeah we got Colorado
That was a big one
And we got Utah
That was the other big one
So
And SC
I think we did
picked that C. So those are the two ones that we
kind of got up on everybody.
Let's see.
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of the weeks happen now this this is why everybody tunes in right here this is it this is what my
mom tunes out first game that we have is lSU at going to vanderbilt oh i want to lean i feel like
vanderbilt's favorite going vandy yeah vandy's minus two and a half i think i'm going to go
I agree with that.
LSU's offense is no Bueno this year.
No.
All right.
We have Georgia Tech going to Duke playing the Blue Devils, Manny Diaz.
Oh, man.
I got to go, rambling wreck from Georgia Tech and a hell of an engineer.
Duke's favored by a point in a half.
I'm going Georgia Tech, I think.
They're 6 and 0.
They've looked really good.
they've had some solid wins
who are you going? Not so
fast. Make a note.
Make a note. Oh, I've got the
pen and paper. I got the legend
of Steve Spurrier, former
head coach, old ball coach,
Blue Devils running through the veins.
Blue Devils win by a field
goal. Your mom would be
disappointed in you. She would be.
But it's all right.
It wouldn't be the first time.
We play a win.
All right. So Grant's note, noted.
No, Georgia Tech.
All right, next we got Arizona going to U of H.
I think I'm,
what's Hawaii's records on this one?
Oh, this is, oh, University of Houston?
Yeah, Houston.
I'm taking the Coogs on this one, I think.
Couges.
What's the O'I's record?
Don't know, great question.
I'm just curious, unrelated topic.
Is this a Hawaii's record?
Yeah.
I like the cougars as well.
I like cougars.
Let's go cougars.
Okay.
Next, we got Baylor going to TCU.
Oh, man.
TCU really let us down.
I'm going to roof those Baylor Bears to make that Auburn win look more strong, you know,
when the playoff committee is considering Auburn.
I'm going to go.
Oh, that's tough.
That is a tonus two and a half.
TCU, both four and two, two and one.
playing at Amon G. Carter Stadium, Fort Worth, Texas, 84 degrees outside.
Tickets is low as $68. Scott Robertson, 13, Baylor quarterback, 2,000 yards in the year, 19 TDs, 4 interceptions.
Give me those Baylor Bears, do it for the War Eagles.
I think that, I think that's a, if you're two and a half and you're at home, you're not really a favorite.
All right.
Oh, you going to.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, so what did you pick?
I picked it. I agree. I picked
the Baylor first. We're in use in there.
No notes needed, yeah. No notes.
No notes. No notes. No notes. No notes. Brief the slide.
Oh, you going to play
them Gamecox. It's Cocktober.
October.
October. Rough start. I'm going with
Gamecox.
Got a ride with them.
Got a ride or die.
It's at home. They play well at home.
Do they? I don't know that we've been
watching the same team.
They have three wins somewhere, right?
I don't know.
Yeah.
And tall grass.
Yeah, that is tough, though.
I don't know.
I think...
I think we lose that game.
I think we lose it by like 17,
and the pressure's really turned up on Beamer.
Just...
Here's the thing.
And I really want to win this league,
but I also want to pick the game of Cox,
so that great can be the only one
to not pick the game.
Well, reverse psychology.
I like it.
Wait, wait, wait.
Does that make this a note?
Yeah, that's a note.
Note that, okay.
Not a note.
Not a note.
It's got to be a hot last minute take where someone says not so fast.
All right.
We have Ole Miss going to Georgia.
I got the dogs, man.
I got the dogs.
Old Miss.
I've seen this game before, start out 6 and 0.
Get into the top five and just abysmal fall.
part. I've read this book so
many times. A hundred times.
Yes, every time. I've read it.
Lane Kiffin, talk all the smack
you want about Kirby Smart.
The dogs, the
dogs all day.
Dude, he was brutal. Do you see what he said?
He's like, brutal.
He's lost. Yeah, he just said Kirby doesn't
look like he's lost any weight.
Is that something about burning calories during the game?
He said, doesn't look like he's burning calories to me.
Okay.
So you got dogs, Jeffrey, you got?
Oh, I'm going Bulldogs.
Although, one save round from the Auburn recap game against Georgia
was the whole like where Kirby Smart pulled the old fast one
where he like calls a timeout, 100% calls a timeout.
And then he's like, no, no, no, I was clapping.
I was clapping.
And they're like, oh, oh, he was clapping.
No time out, no time out.
And I looked up old footage.
does clap like this.
Yeah.
That's how he clapped at his daughter's
wedding.
Yeah.
He doesn't want to show that I appreciate it, but like I don't want to make a lot of noise.
The Kirby clap, yeah.
Kirby clap.
Yeah.
Don't catch it.
I would make a note on that one.
I like Ole Miss here.
But I hope Ole Miss wins, but I think Georgia will.
Okay.
So the team is picking Georgia.
yeah the team pick Georgia
I made a note of all of this
you don't really get to make notes it's kind of my
okay you have to have your own
like little thing
you have to think of something different
like what's what's another way to say
make a note
I made the notes
you could say something like
write it down
write that down
right that down
you know what I mean
that says but
guys file it away for me
I want you to file this way
I'm the make a note guy
you can say you can
you could be the stare at it guy
stare at that result
next week
all right
let's go the next one
I have no idea on this one
Old Dominion
going to James Madison
Oh Lord
Oh JMU
Gotta go JMU
Yeah I think JMU too
I had a high school football coach
Went to Jamie
What conference is that
Mac?
No clue
I think you're
I think that's the Mac
It's not Mac
that's not the Mac I hear that
is it the Mountain West
is it the Pact 12 now
is that what the Pact 12 is
Conference USA
I thought they were in the big 10
I thought they were like
some conference
I thought the Big 10 I thought all teams went to the Big 10
they're not they're not in the American
Big Sky
I think they're non-conference
like the Underdame
Are they have football?
team but i'm about to give up are they in this is not fcs right like or whatever what's the
uh i don't know i james the sunbelt i sundbell already checked it not there
james are you not googling the right things look it says they joined the sunbelt in 22
hey syri what conference is oh they're in the sunbell they're in the sunbelt they're the sunbelt the
James Madison, Duce?
You're kidding me?
Two seconds.
That took a way too long.
Not only are they in the Sunbelt.
They're in first in the Sun Melt.
Three and O in conference.
5 to one.
Big James.
Yeah.
Big Jam, you guy.
Go do.
Old Dominion.
They've only lost to Louisville.
They beat the breaks off on Liberty and Georgia Southern and Georgia State.
They beat up on those southern schools.
James Madison.
James.
you all right we're going to use this all right we got pin state going to iowa iowa yeah i feel like
that's a great let the blood letting happen yeah all right love to see it here's one we got
missouri going to auburn go tigers yeah go tigers that's safe bed all right i picked the tigers
pick the war damn eagles i got they got pro auburn i think yeah
I'm picking Auburn.
It's another night game at Auburn.
They have to pull one of these out, right?
The crowd was fired up for that first half of the Georgia game.
I'll tell you what.
Cam Newton was in the stands, got his jersey retired.
He was all over the place.
That funny hat on his head.
Dressed like a Renaissance fair meets a hip-hop concert meets, I don't know, a Western,
Eastern European.
talking about how he was recruited to play tight-in at South Carolina by Spurrier.
All right.
Last one.
We have the war in Utah.
The youths go into the BYU.
I got right with the youths.
But that's going to be a good game, I think.
It's a big game.
It's really like a spiritual warfare game.
Yeah.
More than more than it is a football game.
that is true yeah i'm going with the mormons
yeah i tend to
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all right Jeff where are we headed
we don't have a staff meeting
so I'm kind of lost without my staff
yeah well you know slide show
couldn't get uploaded because teams doesn't work
because the team's FSR is furloughed, so, uh, no teams.
So, uh, we're just going to do this off the cuff.
Um, I feel like there's been some topics that Grant's been itching to get to as far as
talking about what his buddy's been up to.
Oh, yeah.
So I want to hear about Australia.
That one's been on there for a long time.
Australia.
I see about down.
Australia, yeah.
Australia, mate.
Australia.
Uh, let's see.
Yeah, Grant's buddy did a little ship short.
action, went in for some Australia, made the front page of the Wall Street Journal. How about
that? You know, to turn China down there. No, Australia was cool. I'm assuming neither of you
have been. No. Australia, it is, this is going to be such a compliment to Trey, but I just don't
know how it's to explain it. It is the Texas of London. It is like, like these people,
kind of seem British and like Londony
except they're just like rednecks
and they're awesome huge fan of Australians
let's see went into Sydney first had a port call
that was first port call after being bolted up on ship
you go out and Sydney kind of like a New York City type
very clean opera house pretty nice but I mean the nice thing is like you're in a
foreign country food's different I mean you're in Sydney so a lot of the stuff's like
the same but everyone it's like Americans with
funny accents, you know. So Sydney was, was pretty, was pretty cool. Big fan, Sydney
recommended. Very far, but cool. Do they like Americans? Yeah, very pro-American. And like,
we'll just jump right in their Army defense force, Australian Army defense force. Those dudes want to
fight, man. They're like ready to sign up for any war, anywhere, all the time. Like, I'll tell
you what, if I got to fight with allies, put me in with some Australia.
like those dudes are just ready to brawl so we got on the deck we did a bunch of different stuff
supporting a bunch of different things my favorite part of it was we were doing this shoot
combined live fire combined joint live fire firing exercise so it's like a bunch of artillery
pieces there so you got uh Australian high mars USA high mars Singapore high mars uh I think
there was one more high mars unit can't remember who it was then you got like the Japan
hands,
Chu Sui or something like shoots down drones.
I forgot I was called.
I'm butchering that name.
But that was pretty cool.
Yeah, the Koreans there with their propelled,
self-propelled artillery.
And then we had a gun position where we had four howitzers
and the Aussies had four howitzers and were just set up
in a joint combined battery.
And it was probably like the most fun.
I've had in a field up in a long time.
Just because it's like, you know,
we had all the guns staggered.
You had two FDCs right next to each other.
And part of it, you know, we probably wouldn't in place like that and sit there for a week,
but it's all preparation to do this, you know, joint live fire exercise basically to show
like, hey, look at all this firepower that we have down here, you know, allied with the United
States, you know, China messaging, that sort of thing.
But seeing their gun lines, how they operate was really cool.
They had what they call the battery gunny.
They didn't call him the battery gunny.
I've forgotten now.
It's been so long because you guys have refused to talk about this for months.
It's true.
Now I can't remember.
They have a battery star major, which is like kind of their first sergeant,
except he grows up as no 8-11, whatever their equivalent is as a candidate ear,
but then he becomes the guy.
Oh, that guy, all he was about is haircuts and cigarette butts.
But also like the technical employment of the howitzer.
So it's kind of interesting.
But yeah, those dudes were cool.
It was an interesting field up.
The way that the hill was set up, I got to call for fire with the regulations that they had.
So it's like, I'm up on the hill behind the battery.
I can see the battery.
I can see the target and like the battery commanders for both units were the ones calling for fire.
So it's kind of old school gunnery, how you're supposed to do it.
So that was pretty cool.
So we'd get in, you know, their version of a JLTV and just like go grinding up this hill.
like no PPE on, just gear flying everywhere, not for the Marines, obviously, but it's a little
bit more laid back over there. But yeah, Australian Army Defense Force, great guys, a lot
of slang, very crass talkers. Yeah, the most fun part was we'd go into these meetings
every night and it's like the one-star Australian general and then it's like you know an
Australian full bird colonel and a light kernel and then at the table you'd have like I was like
the lead marine because we had like mortars and 50 cows and there stuff there but I was like the lead
planner she had me cross from me is the Australian triple seven guy to my right is the Japan to his
right uh is Malaysia I think about no Singapore across the table you know
We got all these different countries.
And so every day we'd go in there and everyone just kind of looked at me funny because
I would walk in with like a giant thing of milk because we'd get there and I wouldn't have
eaten many MREs all day.
And so like the building had a refrigerator.
And if you open the fridge, they had liters of milk.
And so every night I had to go to this meeting at 1900 and it was kind of my dinner
because I'd missed dinner back at the pause, they'd hot chow.
And so I'd go in there, I'd get the milk.
and like all the Koreans and the Japanese and Singapore people would just like stare at me
for like drinking the milk.
And so then I realized so I would just like kind of play into it.
And yeah, they were like they would have like their their PAO teams like taking photos of me
like drinking milk.
And I just kept rolling with it.
And they were like, oh, milkman, milkman.
And then finally like on the last day, the general's like he's saying something because
you got like all these three and four.
stars coming in. I don't remember exactly what he said,
but he was like talking about the porta-potties,
like lock the porta-potties. The port-potties,
he'd be clean, no trash, no
trash, and he's big on trash, Australian
trash. Love hearing that. And he's like,
see, we don't need any
anybody, you know, blowing their guts
out. And everyone
like kind of looked at me and I was like,
what, I drink milk all the time.
I'm good. And it was funny.
I don't remember. There was more comments, but you guys
refused to talk about this for so long. I can't remember.
I can't remember. But yeah, Australia.
Pretty good. I had an Australian accent down. I've lost it. I'm back into
Arrogato, because I'm like, but Australian. What did you get to do? What did you get to
do in Sydney? Sydney, I mean, we didn't have a ton of time off. We had this driver.
I had a driver as like the XOT, the XOT, XO troops for the boat. So that was kind of a game
changer. So it was like this name was Will. We called him Will the driver. And, uh,
He would just take us around.
Yeah, real original.
We ate food, went up to the beach,
like saw a lighthouse.
They made fun of me because we get in
and he's like, where you guys want to go today, mate?
I was like, oh, I don't know.
Like, you got any like cool castles or something?
And he was like, a castle.
I was like, yeah, I feel like, I don't know,
like you should have like a castle.
Castle in Australia.
No castles.
No castles.
assholes. I went to Bondi Beach.
Yeah, we met a guy that we called the dribbler. We were at a pizza spot and some
guy comes up to us. He's just like half drunk, just starts dribbling at us. We learned
that term from Will the Driver. It's like a person at a bar that won't stop talking.
Yeah, I'm from such, so it's about to go on vacation. I got a date that I found online.
And he like pulls up a photo of Sidney Sweeney. And we're all like, yeah.
okay. He's at not, none of my mates
believe me either. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah,
the dribbler. There's a lot
of dog. There's a lot of betting going on
all over Australia.
Like everywhere you go, it's like, you can
bet. It's like you're in Vegas. Like, you can bet
the dogs. Will the driver is really big into betting
the dogs. So we're sitting there eating pizza.
He's got like some app on his phone. He's just like,
all right, we're pulling for, you know,
moon face or whatever.
So betting the dogs.
It's actually pretty funny. We were doing our little health
assessment when we got back here.
two different people that were with us that day.
It was like, do you gamble?
And they were like, no.
And they took a photo and sent to me.
They were like, betting the dogs.
So I'm betting the dogs in Australia.
Highly recommended.
After Sydney, after training, we went to,
well, actually, we did another time we went ship to shore for this exercise.
And the exercise, the land we were on was like rented to us by Australian civilians.
So they just get like a check to open it.
And then they would just come out and watch us.
Like, they would just, like, come up on, like, a four-wheeler, like, drinking a beer.
Hey, what's up?
I'm the landowner.
You're like, oh, what's going on, man?
Yeah, pretty interesting.
You guys tracking Vegemite?
Oh, yeah.
I've had it.
My dad's a big Vegemite fan.
I'm a fan.
I'm a big fan of it.
It's a definite acquired taste.
The first time I had it, I was like, oh, my, oh, my Lord.
But you kind of get used to it, and it's acquired.
I think you just got to get the rest of it.
ratio, right? I'm not a
heavy Vegemite guy. I like
I liked it fine.
I don't know that there'll be
any in my cupboards when I return.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah, Vegemite. What else
we have for food?
That was unique. I ate some kangaroo.
Saw some ruse.
That was a kangaroo.
It was fine.
I had like kangaroo burger and
was that in.
Kind of like, no, that was in
Cairns
I was about to say your
Sydney trip sounds like a fever dream
it's like fever
yeah like
Will the driver drove us around
he was betting on dogs and then
this guy went on a date with Sydney Sweeney
I was like yeah
that's what I call on
Sydney that or is this
no it's weird
well you have so little time on a port call
yeah as Jeff knows
I did not know that
and Trey maybe like I
I don't know what I thought.
I think I just never thought through it.
But I kind of assume it's like, oh, you're doing the whatever mew.
Oh, you're going to be in road to Spain.
And I guess in my mind there was like a,
you thought it was like a cruise ship.
I mean, I didn't think it was a cruise ship.
But I didn't realize it's like, yeah, we pull in Tuesday at this time.
We got to resupply the ship.
You're going to get like released at 2100, have to be back at zero one.
Then the next day you have 12 hours before we pull out.
And it's like, oh, there's like not.
actually a lot of time to do anything.
Yeah, that's not much time.
So you're not set up like excursions before you get there
is what you're saying. No, because you don't even know
when you're going to get there. Like one of our
second one, it's like, you're going to Townsville. It's like,
oh, sweet, Townsville. It's like, you're not going
to Townsville. You're going to wherever.
Oh, sweet. We're going to whatever. Like,
you're not going there. You're going here.
And it's like, oh, so I really can't
plan anything until we're docked.
Oh, shocking. We're sold out now
because this entire force showed up and
everything sold out. The Navy guys
always be booking a little bit ahead of you.
I mean, I got good.
They always got the scoop. Yeah,
the ship XO and I became
buds. He'll be a future guest.
He's still out on the warship.
But he's the one to play football with Donnie Bowers.
And so I
always knew, like when there was info
to be known on where we were going,
I was in the know. So
I appreciate the XO of the Duce.
Deuce.
Yep.
Australia. Australia.
Australia, Mike, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, Australia, mate.
Well, I don't listen, land talking.
If you want to keep ruminating on your, on Grant's buddies's, uh, adventures,
the Jungle Warfare Training Center.
Have you been?
I put, have you been in Japan?
Uh, we did a, we did a Libo in Okinawa.
Oh, what a beautiful destiny.
Fantastic divination.
Two nights, two nights, three nights, nights.
Yeah.
So where'd you stay?
Oh gosh
Who we were kind of in a hotel
Not the American Village
Okay yeah
Near Camp Costa area
Yeah and then
Kind of yeah just hung out around there
I don't remember where we pulled in
But
White Beach maybe no I don't know
Yeah white beach that's it
That's the spot that's the spot
Yeah
Well nothing's changed here
Nocut now is still really hot
It's about to get Mohada
JWCC, Jungle Warfare Training Center for you non-military types or non-marine types.
Every unit that deploys out here to Okinawa seems to go up there.
If you're part of a Italian landing team, the grunts get really excited about it
and talk about how great a training it is and it actually is.
But it is just, it's hot.
it's hot all the bugs you can imagine
it's kind of hard to describe
so they've currently right now you're not allowed to train up night
at night right there which was kind of good so the way we set up the train
was like we go up we have bivak black area
you set it up your bivouac area and then we conducted like
lane training all different sorts of stuff from like you know
07 until dark and then at dark it was like okay hygiene
try to sleep but it was just so stinking
hot. And at
night, you get these little one-man
bug nets, which I'd never really use
and already got, I'm used to just sleeping on the
hood, but you have this one-man bug nets that they issued
specifically for units going there.
So I'm like, it's probably pretty important that I bring it. And it
is because otherwise you'll just get beaten
to all ends by bugs. So you
days finally over, you're just soaking wet
the whole time. Like you're soaking wet.
Like, you can't even, like you wake up
and you soak, like you sweat while you sleep.
It's like really weird. So you're just wet all the time.
then all the you're in the jungle so a bunch of water you're getting into but when you go to bed
like what i didn't want is to come back with malaria you know from like all these bug bites and
stuff so every night so you zip up your thing but as soon as you zip up your thing and you add in
220 pounds of mass into that thing it just becomes like an oven and this is with the rain fly up
because but it's don't worry it's going to rain in the middle of the night and so you lay down in
there you're just like in your chonies and it's just like sweat and
just like pouring off your body.
And that's what I'll remember about J-Dubs.
But the training was actually really fun.
We didn't go up there for too long.
We were up there for five days.
And so we had a repel tower one day,
which is like a cliff face,
which pretty cool.
A lot of hasty repels with the endurance course one day,
which Jeff may have some questions about.
And then we had like two days of like squad,
infantry tactics and like a force on force.
So yeah, it was fun.
But it's like the Wild West up there.
like you just get up there and i mean you're just in the jay you're just in the jungle and you just do it
there's no air on station it's like if you got a medevac it's two hour drive and you're just like
all right here we go but uh yeah you know some stuff about the de course jeff is that why you
mentioned it no i i just you know you always see like you know the combat camera photos
or like Instagram posts of like Marines going through it.
So like it looks pretty, it looks like it's a one of those good times that you
never want to have again kind of thing.
Tier two fun.
Tier two fun.
How long is the course?
It was, I think it's like two, a little over two miles.
It, it is challenging.
But it actually is a lot of fun.
And it's like one of those things that a lot of Marines like, I'm not really excited about
this.
And then, like, once you get going, they're in.
So I did it.
You have to have two jungle leaders, which is someone that's done a five-week course up there,
like one of the weeks they don't eat anything except snakes and, like, chickens that they catch out there.
So you have two of those people to do it.
So the day before the unit did it, I did it.
And then I did it again, obviously.
And it's like down hasty repels, but like you actually got to like wear the gloves and like use the rope.
It's not like when you're hiking in a national park.
and there's like a rope there, but you just, you know, boulder down.
Like, you actually got to do that stuff.
There's a lot of areas where, like, you jump in the water and cross the stream.
A lot of ups and downs, kind of like Quantico in terms of elevation change.
There's like a cable, rope cable that you, you know, just two cables.
Your hands are on one, your feet on the other, and you cross a large body of water.
There's another area where it's like a really steep rappel down.
And then it's not supposed to be a swimming hole, but we kind of made it a swimming hole.
So it's supposed to go down and cross and just go up.
But we, there's like a high dive up there with a cable on it.
So we made part of it as you get on the cable and then you come out over the water.
You're probably like 30, 40 feet in the air and then let go and drop down into the water.
Yeah.
So it was pretty cool.
And it's so hot.
Like anytime you can get in the water, I mean, just in general, not even on the e-course.
Anytime there was a body of water, I was just jumping in, like, fully clothed.
Dutch. I mean, you're already soaking wet, so you might as well cool off.
And then it ends with this thing called the pit and pond,
which was really hyped up to me by people of like how disgusting it was.
And I got to the pit and pond.
And it's, I don't know, like in Georgia, I feel like they just call it water.
It's like that red, it's like that red clay mud, you know?
So it's about like waste, a little bit above waist deep and you're like trudging through.
There's barbed wire over your head.
So you got to like duck and like get under the water.
and then there's like a wooden structure
that you have to like submerge
to go through. There's like a
Quigley style
kind of like culvert deal.
Okay. And then there's like a spot where
like you take a casualty
and then there's like a
plexiglass little house that you've like dragged
the person through.
I expected to be a lot
worse.
Not saying that it wasn't bad
or gross.
But I have
there's going to be like snakes jumping out and like slithering in your ears.
And, uh, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't, it's gross, but it wasn't quite so bad.
But yeah, that's the Jay.
Hmm.
That's the jungle.
Check it.
Bucket list.
Complete.
Marine Corps bucket list.
Is that something you think you would have enjoyed 15 years ago?
Yeah.
I think I would have been, I think, I mean, I enjoyed it now.
I can actually say that truthfully.
I was definitely a lot more cautious.
Like, I don't want to like roll an ankle.
I don't want to like, like,
take a fistful of rocks to the face.
I think 15 years ago,
I would have been like,
can I do the E-course 10 times in one day?
You know, like,
but it's fun. It's not too long.
You do it as a squad when you go through it.
So it's,
it's like cool team building stuff.
There's the classic like,
you know, cargo ropes that you jump into and climb over.
There's like the walls that you need buddies to throw over.
It was good.
And it was really good for my buddy's unit for kind of where we're at of like having another thing to go do.
It's a little bit different than what we normally do.
You get to put on cammy paint and, you know, yell at each other and scream and butter, butter, jam and all that stuff.
But it was not mad when I came out of the Jay.
No.
That's good.
Yeah.
Man, Jay.
It's a pretty good time.
Yeah, it's a good time.
Yeah, it's here.
Now looking back, looks great.
Yeah.
right yeah yeah great dang dang now now is this in the little uh topic chat here is this
bowing or bowling without the l bowling without the l i could see you being a big bowler uh yeah like i
enjoy it like i don't i'm not in a week or anything yeah i could i can see myself being in a week i got
I got into it in, uh, into a lot in Oklahoma.
I got into it.
Okay.
That's good place.
Jeff, you're into it?
I mean, it's been, I'm trying to remember the last time I went, I went bowling.
I feel like in high school, I had a couple buddies that we, for like, I don't know, there was like a six month period where we got pretty into bowling and like, probably went like once or twice a week for like six months.
And we got, we got pretty into it.
What could you bowl?
Oh, gosh.
I don't remember like I want to like I think I probably like broke 200 a couple times but
not good that's like once or like maybe twice what's your best tray man I feel like 170 something
okay yeah 170 maybe it was like high 170's low 180s maybe is a spin guy or a straight down
the pipe no I'm straight down the pipe I'm straight down the pipe baby I'm straight down the pipe baby I'm
straight down the pipe too. Yeah, no, I've been into bowling. It's not a ton to do
on these bases, especially when theater's broken and all that kind of stuff. But there is
bowling alley. That's weird hours, but it is open. And we've been bowling. I've bowled a lot
in the last few months. What's your, what's your score? Yeah. 172. So you guys are both
better than me or you're lying. I'm just kidding. No, I would say I have got, I've always
been a, hey, I bowl twice a year. And I'm like, put me down for a hundred or
maybe a 120.
And now it's kind of like a 140s, a bad game.
Okay.
But I haven't broke 200.
And that's what I'd like to do.
Nice.
But yeah, we've been getting fired up in there.
You know, go in there with eight or nine Marines at seven at night,
get a couple lanes going, touch tunes rolling, just chucking balls down.
And it's interesting, all the different styles, you know, the spin.
And it's like, like there's some guys that bowl.
and it's like the hand comes way back the ball like curves perfect and it's like yeah man you're picking up a spare just like me
eight and two uh you know um so yeah i mean i think the spin is the way to go uh with like the chaos down there
that happens but i just i grabbed the heaviest ball about 15 pounder and i just chuck it down
like a seven ton and just wash the pins explode and i'm a straight down the middle kind of guy um yeah
but I always said that always said that always said that yeah dang uh oh Trey you've been back in
the gym hmm no not this week I have not have you been thinking about the gym yeah I've been thinking
about it well if you got tax questions I if I got tax questions I usually call BW but yeah
Usually when I have lifting questions, I call Graham.
That being said, I have, it's not so much a question this week.
It's more of trying to coach's anecdotal story that I would like to hear.
Do you have, can you think of like a time where someone, they said, hey, I'm injured.
I got a nagging injury, long-term injury, and then lifting fixed it.
Basically, I guess what I'm trying to get down to is, like, maybe someone who's on the older side of life, like, you know, kind of closer to the tail end, like, never lifted, but then like their quality of life improved through lifting.
Have you seen that a lot?
Yeah, that's the majority, I'd say, of who we cater to at, like, the gym and in our online coaching services.
But I've said it before on here and on YouTube.
We definitely have power lifters and people that do it as a sport.
but in general, it's, you know, hey, I went to the doctor, told me I need to do resistance
training to increase my bone density. I don't know how to do it. I have chronic back pain.
My son's been telling me for a long time, I should deadlift. I'm finally listening to him.
I have, you know, my sciatic is super flared up. I read Dr. Sullivan's book and, you know,
here like that's generally who we deal with and those people are actually better and i don't mean
what what i mean by that is they have much more to be improved and to gain than like a 26 year old
so a 26 year old yes he can like put on mass he can get bigger and like look better which is what
a lot of 26 year olds care about but in terms of like the ability to do things day to day there is a
change and like getting way stronger. But older people realize what they've lost, right?
Whereas the younger person doesn't realize that, hey, I should go ahead and get strong now so that I
can be strong my entire life and not lose it. An older person is like, man, when I was 35,
I could go snow skiing and not be out for a week or whatever the activity is. Now I go do
this thing and I'm out of commission for weeks. And so I think those folks are more consistent
and they care about their training more.
And if it's someone that has dealt with chronic back pain,
which is probably one of the key drivers of folks to the gym,
if you've lived with chronic back pain and then the back pain goes away,
you never want the back pain to come back, right?
Because you've been on the other side of, wow, this is absolute misery
when I go to bed thinking about it.
I can't sleep because of it.
I get out of bed thinking about it.
So those folks that have pain or some type of like chronic injury are usually stick with
it longer.
The other problem is with those kind of folks, say if you have a guy that has really bad
back pain, actually going to try a bunch of stuff with you until we figure out how to make
it better.
Sometimes people come in with back pain and you can have deadlift right off the floor, 135
pounds and they start to feel better.
they can't get in that position soon you got to like rack pull but if they add any weight to the
bar it still really hurts and so you're going like 60 pounds 65 pounds 70 pounds and because like
that movement is helping they'll keep coming or because you've told them like hey keep coming
but it might take a month before they're on the floor you know deadletting say 135 pounds for a set
of five that then they can actually work the full range of motion and it might be two months
before they're actually seeking
seeing strength adaptations
because at first it's like, hey,
how can I relieve some pain
so that you can do the movement?
Okay, now that you're doing the movement,
I know that you have a chronic problem,
so I don't want to like shock it, so to speak,
or like, have you have any form deviation
that could cause the pain to come back?
So I've got to increase it really slow.
So I'm increasing it really slow,
so it takes even longer before you start to see
the physical adaptations occur of like,
oh, wow, I'm developing muscle.
like I feel better all the time.
So yeah, definitely seen it a good bit with older folks and with young people too.
You know, see people with sciatic pain.
That's an interesting one.
It's like, what do you do about sciatic pain?
I don't know, but for some people, just doing the back squat slowly over time makes it better.
For some people, it doesn't.
For some people, front squatting can make it better.
I'll tell you, like trying to use it and train it seems to work better in,
my opinion than like rolling around on a lacrosse ball and I'm not saying there's anything
wrong with that there's like some trigger port stuff that really works for people I think sometimes
it's placebo but you know what placebo is real it's a real effect so um but sciatic's another common
one where if people have had it and I had it when I was lifting back when I lived with Jeff actually
and it was like a four-month thing I was going to chiropractor I was doing acupuncture I was doing
cupping you know I like tried everything and then when I ran
out of money from all that. I just kept squatting and deadlifting. And then one day it was gone.
I'm like, I don't know what the thing was that fixed it, but I know that it wasn't doing nothing.
Right. So, so yeah. Yeah, I'd be curious if you think like a lot of people who say, oh, I got this back
pain, whatever it might be, especially as they get older, how much that comes just from like a
sedentary lifestyle versus something actually being wrong. And then as they get in there, like the
motion is lotion kind of things fix it pretty quick so yeah i think a lot of people too don't realize that
like upright mammals have bulging disc we all have degenerative disc we all have slipped disc and it's
amazing to me even young men that are like oh yeah sir saw you in the gym you're looking at weight
i'm like yeah i can like give you some pointers no i got a bulging disc it's like you're 24 and it's
like, yeah, but I, you know, I got an x-ray once. And it's like, hey, man, like, no one goes in
and gets an x-ray after living 30 years on the planet and, like, all their bones look
perfectly. And so I think sometimes it's just an excuse. So, like, here's what I found. If the pain
is real and the bulging desk or the degenerative disc or whatever it is, is really real
that the pain is so bad, then the people are like, okay, I've tried everything else. Now I'll go
try and learn how to squat and deadlift because I've given up and I can't live like this
and those people have success for people that like tell me that they have that pain I say hey
I actually helped a lot of people with back pain and they never come in I'm like it's the pain's not
the bad because you're just you're just living with it yeah you're just living with it or talking
about it and it's your it's your reason to not come in and add five pounds will work really hard
in the gym and I and I also say there are there are a lot there are a lot of folks I know too with
500-pound deadlifts, you know, heavy lifters that deal still with like back pain.
Like that is, that is 100% true.
I remember when I graduated college and I took, when it became a concrete plant manager,
had to get like a mixed design school.
And the guy up there, redneck in North Carolina is like, when you go to get your doctors,
when you go to become a doctor, physician, they say, welcome to medical school.
people die he said when you come to concrete school we say welcome to concrete school
concrete cracks and it's our job to design a mix to manage it and paul horn would say at
his gym up in l.A if you come in here with back pain and you want to learn to lift I can promise
you're back you're going to tweak your back again like your back is going to hurt again
what we're trying to do is like management so that most of the time it's much better
And so I say that to say, it's not just like, oh, people won't put in the hard work and lift heavy, and that's why they have back pain.
My point is, is if the muscles around your back and your spine and all that area where you're experiencing pain, if you get stronger, you're more resilient against tweaks and setbacks.
And then when you have setbacks, most people tweak their back out of the gym, not in the gym.
But when you have it, you now have the tools.
Sometimes it's just the confidence of, hey, I'm a 450 pound deadlifter.
my back really hurts, but I'm going to go into the gym
in motion as the lotion and deadlift,
135 for three sets of 10.
And I have the confidence to do that because I know how strong I am,
and then I'm just in a bunch of pain right now.
And there's many a time where someone hurts their back.
They come into the gym, they lift light for a little while.
And within five to seven days,
they're back deadlifting 400 pounds or whatever they were supposed to be.
So, yeah, get to the gym, lift through the back pain.
I'm going to get on the bar this week.
No one texted us.
He inspired me.
You got to.
All right.
Save rounds.
Alibis.
Save round.
I started watching,
did I mention this last week?
We started watching Severance.
No.
No, you didn't mention it.
No.
What do you think?
No.
Good show.
So far, so good, man.
It's pretty good.
It's kind of how Grant's buddy feels.
So far so good.
Severed.
Severed.
Severed.
Well, okay.
Well, then, I got to save around then.
We're just finished up, what, episode six of Task on HBO, HBO Max, whatever it's called now, Max.
Yeah, it's good.
It's good.
Task and purpose?
It's called Task and it's Mark Ruffalo and I don't know any of the other actors names in it.
So like Mark Wahlberg's cousin?
What's that?
Yeah.
Mark Walbrooke's cousin.
Yeah, they're related.
All marks are related to each other.
Mark Ripiktoe, Mark Wahlberg,
Mark Ruffalo.
Yeah, yeah.
So,
Marky, Mark, and the funky bunch.
That's right.
They actually are related, yeah.
That's true.
See?
All right, Tray, bring this thing down for a landing.
All right, episode.
Are we 80?
080.
Oh, excuse me, bingo.
Bingo.
Bingo.
This is, Jordy, bingo, bingo.
This is episode 080 of the...
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