The Okay Podcast Powered by The Strength Co. - EP 97: The Ohio State, USMC & Olympic Hockey feat. Troy Campbell Sr.

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

In Episode 97 of The Okay Podcast, hosts Grant Broggi, Tres Gottlich, and Jeff Buege sit down with Marine Corps veteran Troy Campbell Sr.From boot camp in 1988 to Desert Storm deployments, Okinawa, Somalia evacuations, and life after service as a 30-year lineman, Troy shares raw stories about military culture, fatherhood, discipline, and strength.We also dive into:The Marine Corps in the late 80s and early 90sDesert Storm and overseas deploymentsCoaching college hockey at Ohio StateRaising a son who became a Marine officerStrength training, longevity, and staying powerful at 57USA vs Canada Olympic hockeyOld-school toughness vs modern culturePodcast Hosts:Grant Broggi: Marine Veteran, Owner of The Strength Co. and Starting Strength Coach.Jeff Buege: Marine Veteran, Outdoorsman, Football Fan and LifterTres Gottlich: Marine Veteran, Texan, Fisherman, Crazy College Football Fan and LifterJoin the Slack and Use code OKAY:https://buy.stripe.com/dR6dT4aDcfuBdyw5ksCheck out BW Tax: https://www.bwtaxllc.comBUY A FOOTBALL HELMET:⁠https://www.greengridiron.com/?ref=thestrengthco⁠Timestamps:00:00 - Intro03:14 - Staff Brief13:56 - Troy Campbell Sr. Joins The Show17:59 - Marine Career35:17 - Having A Family While Deployed39:54 - Olympic Hockey50:19 - Lifting, Starting Strength & Squat Fears01:04:17 - What’s The Rub With Ohio State?01:10:57 - Getting Out Of The Marine Corps01:14:37 - Troy’s BW Tax Read01:17:53 - Favorite Time In The Marine Corps01:28:12 - Sturgill Simpson Album01:29:49 - X Comments01:37:31 - Saved Rounds

All right, welcome back to episode 0-9 or 7 of the OK podcast powered by the Strength Co. I'm your host, Grant, Broji, and we are recording live from Costa Mesa, California. We may be live on the internet. We're trying to be live on X. We'd like to be live on X. We hang out on X. You don't follow us on X. That's being the OK underscore pod.

Well, 134 of you do. Those are those loyal listeners. We appreciate that. But we're recording live in studio. I'm here, Costa Mesa, California, South California. The price of Bitcoin is $67,655.56. I hope you bought the dip. We didn't hit 50s, but we hit pretty low.

So I hope you bought it. If you didn't, you should have. And for people in the comments, I appreciate the Spotify comments, but you guys, just like dial it down, okay? Get on there and say Bitcoin isn't real. You know, just relax. Okay, this is a therapy. for the three of us. We're just a couple of Marine officers trying to get through life. So just

relax. We'll answer your questions. Everything's okay. Bitcoin, by the way, is very real. And you heard it here on the OK podcast. I'm joined today with my co-host, Mr. Jeff Bouget, major type, currently not in a drilling status from the greater Salt Lake City area. Once a Marine, always a Marine, and he's still a Marine. He's joined us from Utah. And then also coming to us from Kaleen, Texas. Is there a Killeen? I'll let you pick the spelling.

Yeah, a Kaleen, Texas. He's choosing Texas. He sells hoses for a living, but again, once Marine, always a Marine, Mr. Trey Gottlitz, Robert Trey, Gottlach the third. Don't get it confused with RG3. If you're going on to Twitter or,

excuse me, X, full of known as Twitter, or Instagram, you're looking for Trey and you type in RG3, don't get it twisted. There's also an African-American, also known as black quarterback that played for the Redskins, also known as the commanders, named RG3.

Yeah, one of a Heisman. Yeah, kind of important, Baylor, right? Yeah, but that's not, Trey. Trey's different. Trey's our favorite logistician. We got a guest today. So we got to keep the staff brief, brief, if you will.

I got to keep the wheels turning and get it going. And today's date is February the 17th in the year of our Lord, 2026. I hate to say it, but the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl champions, which is sad. But I, you know, I give credit where credit is due. If you're Seahawks fan, you should go over to green gridiron, gridiron green, and get yourself a helmet. You can get a mini helmet. You get a full-sized helmet.

You can get a helmet with a visor. The options are endless. You could get a Seahawks helmet with your name on it if you really wanted to. But that's one of our sponsors. So we appreciate Mr. Helmut for all you do. And with that, I feel like I forgot some things in my intro. But with that, we'll turn it over to the three. Hey, all right.

Hey, thanks. Okay, we got time. Time is the priority. So time is of the essence. We're going to kick it off. S1. What do you got for us? Just yes or no, are the numbers bumping?

And we'll move it along. or no. Are they bumping? That's you, Trey. Oh, yes, sir. It's, sir, bumping like crazy. Oh, that's good to hear. Good to hear. All right. Hey, thanks, S-1. Thanks for everything you do. Us, too. What do we got? What do we got?

Oh, is that Lieutenant Johnson? See, you too? Johnson. Oh. Good evening, sir. Good evening. Staff. Tintin Johnson here. If I got a little background noise, sorry, I'm at home. I have a wife and two kids. I know I'm only 22 years old and just commissioned like yesterday, but we got started early. I'm actually Mormon.

And that is why I love the Church of the Latter-day Saints. With that said, I'm going to take you over here to this map shit. If you look at the map chat, you can see there's a lot going on in the world. This puck represents the Epstein files. And all the miniature pucks throughout the globe represent people affected by the Epstein files. Now, you can get lost in the noise, but we don't like noise. We want to know who's not in the Epstein files. And I can safely report, sir, you trash six are not in the Epstein files.

And without further ado, I have nothing more for the group. That's all for me, pending any questions. That's all I have, sir. Great character development. Good brief, good brief. Okay, excellent word. Understood. Understood the mission.

The mission is time is of the essence. Okay, we're moving along to S3. No updates to the slides. Okay. but can we click back 13 slides? Okay, yep, go back 13 slides. Okay, yep, nope. Wait, no, one more.

Nope. Okay, yep, that slide. Okay, yep, that slide right there. I'm going to pull out the field grade hat here for a second. If you notice, we've got a Helvetica font mixed with Time Q Roman, mixed with Currier New. I don't want to see that trash. Okay, that is, that is JV level. PowerPoint, okay, we are, we are varsity level here at Trash Battalion.

Okay, I never want to see that again. That is, that is disrespectful to the mission of this battalion, to our commanding officer, Trash Six. We owe better. That's all I have for the group. Moving on to the Esquare. Real quick, Trash Six here. I just want to say two things keep me up at night in the three.

That's why it's an iron major, major. Two things keep me up at night. one trash particularly if it's unsecured and obviously the Marines say that goes out saying but the second thing is if I'm delivered a brief and the fonts don't match um you know that that that tells me uh that tells me you're not paying attention right you know there's a band one time had a bunch of m&Ms and they every time they went to play they'd say we don't want brown m&Ms and one time they went to play and there was brown m&Ms and they left because uh then they wouldn't been able to handle the power techniques i'm the same way you hear me a bag of trash uh

I don't want to see any brown M&Ms in there. And so three, I appreciate you. You see the vision. You're on the team. You are the team. And appreciate what you do. Continue. Yeah, continue.

I'm off a soapbox. Great, great insights, sir. Great insights. Always good when we can talk about M&Ms as a unit. Okay, S4. What do we got? Sir, I just wanted to apologize. I'd not get the memo on the,

if you click over my slide, you'll notice it's in wing deans. So I apologize for that. Did not see that come out. But if you don't read wingedings, it says, I want to thank you for the participation in the working party to pick up the trash. We are forming another one. So if we could just get the better manners to participate in that 100%.

Should we get to go? That's all for the group, sir. Thank you. Great brief. Great brief. Okay. Medical, dental. Do we have any representatives from medical?

Yes, sir. For medical, well, I'm medical and dental because dental's a subsidiary. It's a department of medical, kind of like the Marine Corps's the Department of the Navy. So dental is technically a department of medical. And I just wanted to say for medical dental, we're going to have a dental rodeo because our dental numbers have plummeted. And I know that everyone is shocked by this, that we're at 3%. but see what happens sir is we don't do dental all year and then we do these rodeos and everyone comes and so then everyone expires at the same time i will give the same recommendation that i've

always given is if you're worried about the slideshow and not a drop-off and number percentage every quarter we could do like 20% of trash battalion and then we could just kind of always be at 75% that's been shot down numerous times but i stand again i'm in the navy so sometimes i provide logic so I'll I'll throw that out there for the group besides that sir I have nothing else to brief well although this happened the last four years in a row we're just shocked that the numbers dropped at this at this time we are shocked by this result and it is unacceptable uh when yeah so the rodeo needs to happen and it needs to happen with full participation um okay s6 anything we got for the com shop that's you train

Oh, that's me. Sir, yeah, nothing really for the group. Record jackets, as I mentioned previously, that we threw them all out, start all over. But they're going pretty good. We're about 5% through them. I anticipate we should be done in about three to four years by the time I probably take off here. That's really all I have for the group, sir. Thank you.

Hey, trash five here, good brief, good brief. record jackets are a good mission and you understand the mission and we we appreciate we do thank you for your service seriously i mean that trash five out oh thank you sir that means a lot okay special staff chaps uh five sorry major anything anything to add to the brief before we go to the outline stations change your socks oh is that sergeant major was that wow that was that was that was that was that Definitely. Charge your size. That's good.

Hey, trash, that's here. Appreciate what you do. Appreciate what you do for the team. I appreciate the outline stations. I appreciate folks following us on X. We're really working on our social media game. Appreciate the YouTube comments.

Most of all, I appreciate you and what you do for the mission of trash battalion. But with that, take us to the outline stations three. We've got to get a guest in here. We want to respect his time. We never respect our own time, but we want to respect his time.

So take us to outline stations real quick. I think we got, I think we got quite a few. Yeah, a handful outline stations checking in. Looks like this was a saved or a question, a question that was pending when the four brief, and they said pending any questions, this is a pending question. Oh, saved around. So is a, AS4 is trash six tracking the deadline trash trucks? if trash six is not tracking the deadline trash trucks,

I think you got some explaining to do. That'll probably be something you need to get offline with, but, you know, a valid question asked. Four, have a sidebar with trash five, and then brief me in the maintenance meeting on the deadline. Oh, yes, yeah. No, I'll get with you offline because the trash trucks are also. Yeah.

Mike Kelly, appreciate, appreciate your service. Thanks, Mike. Keeping me honest, all right. All right, we got our boys over at Massonomics checking in. Heavy thoughts. Maybe the real police calls were the friends we made along the way. Man, that is, that's going to keep me up tonight thinking about that. That is quite the thought.

It's heavy. All right. And hey, we got our resident Billy Martin, friend of the podcast, Sean Shepard, checking in. Trash 6-9 out here, continuing to pick up trash. keeping my area pristine. Apparently, with the Winter Olympics in full swing, people think laziness is an Olympic sport and drop their trash on the ground

and walk away like they're going to hit a medal for it. Where is Terry Tate when you need them the most? Good reference. Good reference. What's the age cut off for understanding Terry Tate? That's a great question. It's got to be like 25, 30 maybe. I probably have Clare closer to 30.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to start asking. What was that commercial? Was that like 03, 04? Yeah, I think the Patriots only had one Super Bowl championship then, if I remember correctly, when it came out. Okay. And then last but not least, hey, we got Chaps checking in.

All right. Chaplin checking in. Com's been all over the place. So sorry, I'm late to the meeting. I swear my slides will be up to date next week. Until then, just remember. Yeah, but everybody says that. Everyone says that.

Heard it a thousand times, chap. 2003 linebacker commercial. Good job. Nice. Trey. Look at you. All right. All right.

Then Chaps wants us to, behold, children are heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb, a reward. Like arrows in the hand of warrior are children of one's youth. Blessed is the man

who fills his quiver with them. He shall not put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gates or in the gate. Not only is the full quiver a blessing, it's also the opportunity to create more trash. This means there's trash secure, secure the trash, build the quiver, nothing else for the group over. Hey, a heritage from the Lord.

That's what we've always said. That's it. No more outlying stations. Those are our outline stations. Man, I got to say, I told the guests 2030 Zulu time. And we are, we're TOT guys. And I'm actually just going to wait like five seconds and say, Stand by.

Enter. Gentlemen. All right. We're loving up there. All right. How are you, gentlemen? We're doing good. How are you?

Fantastic. Good. Actually, I just walked in the door. I was at a concert tonight. Oh, who did you see? Well, a tribute band, Britt Floyd, Pink Floyd, tribute band. Yeah. It's not a brick in a wall.

Yeah, exactly. Any good? Yeah, yeah, I would say so. Okay, good enough. Yeah. Definitely work to see. Let me introduce you a little bit. We got on the podcast, we've talked about it multiple times. You've seen us in the Ohio State T-shirts on the podcast because of our friend of the podcast, Troy Campbell, Senior, O-H-I-O.

Yes, sir. I'd say former Marine, but once a Marine, all you. a Marine but Marine his son hence the senior I deployed with or not me but my buddy last year and I don't actually know how you found the show Troy the second ever told me that so I may actually we may ask you that tonight but let me get this right Marine in the late 80s yes late 80s early 90s okay late 80s early 90s got out after four-year contract and then lineman I am yes Actually, I did just over a year in the reserves as well. Okay.

Oh, you're one of us. You're one of us. We appreciate that. Now, don't say that out loud. You don't want that stink on you. Well, you're right. Actually, I had a captain who advised me not to go into the reserves. He said that would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

But again, things. No. things were a lot different then yeah yeah that's right that's right yeah i think after september 11th the reserves that really became serious at that point yeah that's uh that's exactly right that would probably be a good topic of conversation too and then alignment for what are you at 30 years uh yeah going into my 29th year going into 29th year okay so just over the us just over the state line in michigan oh that's what i was going to ask what city Well, consumers energy is a company.

And so if we look at Michigan is the... It's a hand. Yes. So Detroit Edison has this part of the hand. Consumers has the rest of the state. Oh, okay. Detroit Edison, who are those guys? Yeah, well, I did my apprenticeship with those guys and that was quite an education.

Yes. You're living in Michigan. You're not on the other side of the border. No, actually, I live in Ohio just over. the state line just outside of Toledo. Okay. Okay. Hence, East Coast time.

Jeff, Trey, and I have all been to Columbus, Ohio, together. The Stranco has done the Arnold four times. Jeff's been to two. Trey's been to one. So then the three of us have been to one. And every time we go to Columbus, Ohio,

you know, Jeff and I are East Coast guys, South Carolina, Georgia, and the Northeast. And Trey's a Texas guy. I don't even know how to categorize those people. but it always blows our mind that Ohio is directly above Georgia. Like it's, it's really weird because to me, I think like, oh, Midwest,

I'm a person that subscribes to Ohio's the Midwest. And I think it's like up and to the left. And then when I was driving from South Carolina to Columbus, I'm like, wow, it's just, I just got to go north. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Yeah, I made that drive a lot to Camp Lejeune.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure you did. I sure you did. Yeah. Well, let's jump off there. We got a lot of Marines that listen to the pod, current Marines. I know there's no such thing as a former Marine, but I would say no longer serving Marines that listen. We'll put it that way. So they might be interested in it.

I think Trey in particular might have a good time. Listen to you tell us a little bit about Marine Corps journey because he's been out. What do you been out now, Trey? 10 years. Oh, wow. 2016 is when I got out. Okay. Yeah, so 10 years this year.

And so every time we do our little funny staff brief that people tell us not to stop doing, he's like nothing has changed. So I guess when did you enlist? I enlist in 1988, four days after I graduated high school. Okay. Paris Island, my hometown, I assume. No, no. I should have San Diego.

Okay. So our area of the country, we mapped out of Detroit. And Detroit was San Diego. Sure. But if you were a family legacy or something like that, then you could get a waiver to go to Paras Island. Okay. And then what was your MLS? Well, at that time, it was a 0351.

And I don't think the Marine Corps has that anymore, to be honest with you. Is that the assaultman? It was, yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think they got rid of that in like the early teens, right, Jeff, something like 20, 13, somewhere in there. I think maybe they like stopped making new ones. I remember Lima Company 3-1.

We had a couple, but like they, they were kind of like, what am I going to do now? I'm not going to less anymore. Become a first sergeant. Yeah. Yeah, I guess tell us a little bit about, you know, it's we all went the officer route, as did your son, right?

And it's a, you're not much older, but I feel like there's a lot of transformation that happens between, you know, 18 and 22. And then I joined kind of two years late. So I joined when I was 24. Jeff, you were 26. Oh, wow.

And Trey went directly out of Texas A&M. Were you 22 and you commissioned Trey or 23? How were you? I think I was 24. Yeah, I was 24. I was 20. I'm a month older than you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you're a year behind me, right? Weren't we? Or no, six months behind me. Yeah, something like that. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I guess tell us a little bit like why you signed up and I don't know I'm curious to hear like what that we all joined like you know during a time of war yeah right and you know that late 80s was different so I'm curious like what took you there and like what your experience was

where I grew up rich it's got to be it right at least part of it Yeah, a lot of it. I love it. Now, to back up a few years before that, where I grew up, so probably within, I would say, maybe two miles, bike ride, there was a reserve center, was Navy Marine Corps. And so as a kid, I used to ride my bike to watch the lake freighters come up and down the Maumee River. Not very cool.

And so we would always see the Marines out there drilling. And I guess about the time, I don't know, fourth, fifth grade, I knew that that's what I was going to do. So, yeah, after high school. And I'll never forget my mother was like, don't sign anything. Don't sit. That was already made up in my mind, right? So, yeah. So I think it was my senior year of high school.

I didn't know if it still existed, a delayed entry program. Yeah, yeah, that's still a thing, yeah. So, and again, being that we mapped out of Detroit, so we would, they'd bless us, well, take a van up to Lincoln Park High School and the gymnasium or in the basement of it, was a dirt floor, and they had all the kids from Detroit and Toledo. And they kind of run us through, you know, like a weekend boot camp type thing. And it's the first time I ever heard a woman talk like that was a female. Yeah, it was really an eye-opener.

So, yeah, then, like I said, four days after I graduated high school, I was in San Diego. And it was pretty well prepared. My best friend's father, he was a Marine. And so, you know, I knew, you know, my facing movements, manual arms with a rifle. So boot camp wasn't too much of a challenge. Then I shipped over to the East Coast Camp Geiger for SOI. and then I was attached to or assigned First Battalion, Second Marines. And in those days, when you went over there, they sent you to regiment first.

Then you left the regiment or somebody from the battalion came over and picked you up. So I had the honor of meeting Colonel Ripley. He introduced himself to everybody who came in. You're right. I mean, you know, yeah, as a Marines Marine. And I'll never forget the clerk, he told us, you know, there's five or six of us and he told us, go out there in the parking lot, we're in our alphas, so stand in the position of attention and somebody from your unit will come and get you while we're standing out there again.

Yeah, right. Hours. Right. So I end up with one, two. And my first roommate was a guy who played football at the University of Dayton. He was an offensive line. It's a bigger guy. You know, so the height and weight thing was really a big thing at that time.

And they were transitioning him out. So we had a, and my son will tell you this. Company Gunnies. There's two people in my life that, wherever they are, I hope they're miserable. And Gunny Jones is one of them. So my roommate at the time, a fellow Mike Thompson, we're still friends today. So Gunny Jones, and I think Revely went about 5, 530 at that time, but he was always beating on our doors in the barracks.

So before Revely, and you could hear him coming down door after door, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And this went on for about a month. And my roommate, Mike, who was getting out or being separated, says, part of my language, he says, oh, you're good. He says, I'm going to show him my ass when he gets to our room. Well, that's exactly what he did. So there was a collective pause. So that kind of had me marked the rest of the time Gunny Jones was in. Oh, geez.

Charlie Company. So you were Charlie Company. Yes. Okay. Got it. So every working party I found myself on. Yeah, that's how that works. Yeah, you know, in those days they had tent pins in supply,

and we're over there counting conics boxes of tent bin. Well, I think in those days, it's kind of like these days. I can't tell you how many times last year I found myself, you know, the humidity's not me, my buddy, but my buddy's over there deployed, and it's the humidity is 120%. And I remember counting radios one day, and I pour the exos next to me. I'm holding this six-part red folder with a bunch of numbers,

and I'm just soaking it with sweat while, you know, some poor Lance corporals like prick 153, you know, Echo, Fox Trot, and I'm like, what are we doing? What are we doing? But anyway, okay. And then so you get to 2-1 and you did an appointment, right? Yeah, 1-2. Or 1-2.

Yeah, yeah. Shortly after, just after the first of the year. I believe. And we went to Okinawa Camp Schwab. Okay. At that time. So those days, it was a six-month deployment. Came back stateside.

Typical training cycle. But to back up, I discovered the way to get out of working parties at that time on the Marine Corps had eight men, 80 yards football. Oh. So I played the season of that. and I will tell you that was some of the most brutal football I've ever played in my life. I've never, I've never, I've never heard of eight man 80 yard. Yeah, there were no punts and no kickoffs. Okay.

There was a lieutenant who played, I believe the University of Delaware. Okay. And, you know, my high school experience, it was, you know, you wrapped up when you tackled. Well, nobody taps anymore. And he's the reason why. I mean, he hit you between the numbers, and he depleted you. So you always paid attention to where he was on the field. So, yeah.

Yeah, they've come back. And, you know, we were supposed to be a cold weather battalion. So we did the Bridgeport thing. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah, well. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

Good to look back on it and say, yeah, I did that. I haven't got that. Jeff. When you were doing it. Jeff, you did Bridgeport, right? I haven't dead Bridgeport. No. You haven't done Bridgeport.

Yeah, we're not Bridgeport guys. We're, you know, we're Camp Pendleton, sunshine, and surfboards. I wish I had when I was in my 20s. I hope I don't get sit now. Anyway, go ahead, sir. Yeah, no, that was not a great place to be. So, again, because of the working party thing, I got tasked with, so back then the Marine Corps had a Chevy pickup.

It was called a Cuck V. Okay. And so Gunny Jones volunteered me to drive a general. I want to say his name was Jenkins. He was one star at the time. And I believe he retired as a two star. And he used to be stationed there and he wanted to go up the mountain. And we got up so far and it said, you know, no pneumatic tires beyond this point.

Then it became all track vehicles. I got to stop you for a little truck talk. What kind of truck we talking? Is this like a 1500? So it's 1988, 1988, 1989. Is this like, what are we talking here? Yeah, it was your basic 1500. Okay.

Four wheel drive. Okay, nice. Extended cab? No, no, no. And actually, single cap. Yeah, it had two rails in the bed. So there were, you know, there's some kernels and majors in the back along with, you know, his party.

I love that. Yeah, you're right. And so we get up there. and I kind of point out to the general and he says, no, just keep going. So we keep going. And then this tracked vehicle pulls up in front of us. And I believe it was a staff sergeant. And I mean, he gets out and he's reaming me for being up there.

And I'm like, staff sergeant. He's like, you shut your damn mouth, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, staff sergeant. So Jenkins or Jennings, forgive me, he steps out. from the other side of the vehicle and he says is there a problem and the staff sergeant goes you bet your ass there's a problem then he saw the stars well that changes that changes everything yeah so yeah so yeah bridge fort was good we got a 96 in reno and tajo nice there you go yeah oh wow Yeah, then at some point back through that up to Fort McCoy, Wisconsin, which is the coldest place on Earth.

Horrible, horrible. And then shortly after that, Desert Storm, so we went from cold weather battalion to Desert Camys. Okay. Yeah, so I was on ship nine months. I think we left in August and we came back in March. spent a lot of time Saudi Arabia in the desert and we kept coming

Oh, also Operation Eastern Exit if you guys are familiar with that I'm not I should be I'm embarrassed I'm not Yeah there was an uprising In Somalia Mogadishu So the foreign nationals evacuated Back to the American embassy

And we went in there and got them out Okay So you did two Kind of the I'm sorry, Tray I'll kick it to you next But you did kind of two in four years plus one in the reserves, which we won't talk about. You did two deployments, so to speak. Yeah, actually, I did three shortly after we came back.

Because at that time, they activated the reserves. So there was a reserve unit in Okinawa. And we relieved them, but we only had to go four months. Okay. Wow. So, yeah. So then we went to Hans, Camp Hansen. So Schwab, Hanson's like night and day.

you know, for a married guy, older guy, Schwab was beautiful. You're surrounded by water. Hanson actually had to walk over to it. Hanson feels like, feels like prison. What were you going to ask him, Trey? I'll see that Somalia deployment. That was like, was that right after like the Black Hawk down? Actually before.

Okay, so it was right before. The Marines like turned it over to the Army and then the Army. To the Army. Okay. Okay. I'm trying. Yeah. And, you know,

somewhere I have a letter of whatever from sign from all the foreign dignitaries who we went in and got out with her families and actually there was a woman who gave birth I was on the Guam and so yeah she they brought her back on she nine months pregnant whatever so we had a baby why we were on board where we go from there yes you know it's funny I want to pause you for a second. What's funny to me, and it's, you know, this is, I mean, almost 40 years ago, right? It's like you go on these three deployments, spend time on Schwab, Hansen, you know, Somalia, you know, Saudi Arabia. And then it's like, but one thing you said was like, but we got a 96 in Tahoe. And that like cracks me up because it's like the deployment, I got to say

my buddy, you're a little sooner of the podcast. That's what we do. But my buddy's point. last year, I'll text your son and I'll be like, man, what I would do to be in Sydney right now? And it's like, you spend seven years or seven months traveling to globe and you get like two days of freedom in Sydney and Australia. And you're like, oh, that was amazing. Like, go back any time. And it's, I don't know, it's kind of funny how we are as Marines because it's, you go through all, you go to Bridgeport, you drive the general, you get your ass chewed by the staff. So you go do all that stuff. You're like,

oh, but we got 96 in Tahoe. Yeah. Tahoe was great, beautiful. Reno, same thing. And let's see.

Where were we going with this one? So then you got out? Yeah. Actually, so, and my unit was getting ready. Again, they were going to do,

oh, South America. And so I didn't have enough time. and so they sent me over to combat engineers to do the rest of my time. And combat engineers, they sent me to the infamous forklift driving school. There you go. And it was all short timers like myself. Yeah.

And the troop handler was a guy from at that time force recon. I think it's Marslock today. Yeah, well, recon actually still exists, but some of that mission. did go to Mark. Jeff, I think, knows a little bit more than me, but wouldn't you say that some of Recons mission went, Force Recon's Mission went to Marsok? It's kind of weird. Marsok, like, exploded and then they shrunk it back down. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, it's irrelevant. Yeah, so they sent us over to Forklift Driving School, and we, you know, nobody wanted to be there, obviously. It was maybe two, three weeks long, and I learned more about Forklifts and I ever dreamed to

know. But it was called Marine on the job training, so when we fell out, we'd have to about face and yell mojets. Well, yeah. You can't make it up. No, you can't. You can't. And, you know, again, nobody wanted to be there.

So we didn't sound off loud enough. And, well, repercussions for that. Yeah. Yeah. More working parties. Yeah. Then my son was born. And.

Yeah, you know, I think I had about two months left when Troy was born. Okay. And his mom and I, you know, we decided that, yeah, we weren't going to raise a kid on a military base. Certainly not, you know, junior enlisted. I think at that time I was, you know, the corporal maybe a year time in grade. And I picked up Sergeant and the reserves. So, yeah, no, it wasn't, you know, I don't know if it's still this way. And I asked Troy, but he really didn't.

say or not, but at that time we had a base newspaper. It was called The Globe, I believe. Okay. And if you looked at the back page, you saw all the convictions. It's like, wow, man. Yeah, yeah, the Marine Corps got them too. Yeah, yeah, we probably got more of them. You know, I'll say one bit on that, and then we want to get you into sports mode and we're

going to talk hockey and stuff. but no, you know, you probably made a, you know, I don't know how to phrase it. What I've said this year after last year was I personally have a new layer of respect for people on active duty that not only move over and over with their families, but also leave them because, you know, folks that asked me like, how was the deployment? How did it go? What was the hardest part? You know, it's like a normal civilian question.

I'm like the hardest part was being away from my wife and kid for seven months. Like that was yeah for sure 100% the hardest part and and so and there's people that do it. I got a lot of friends, you know, that are lieutenant colonels, colonels now that have done it and have multiple kids. They get great families, you know, Godfaring families and they're and and they make it work. But man, I have a new level of appreciation of the sacrifice that people, you know, go through that do that. And I don't say that to sound like corny, but it's like when you live it, you're like, oh, man, this is a thing, you know, that people do.

You know, Jeff and I and Trey, but Jeff and I hit the fleet. And it was like, you know, hey, you're going on this deployment. You're going on that deployment. And it's like, Jeff's like, here, will you watch my car? And I'm like, yeah, sure. And then he deploys or then I deploy. I'm like, hey, Jeff, will you watch my car? And that's the only thing you think about it's like, hey, watch my car.

Like I put all my stuff in storage. like just just watch my car and then when you leave a family you're like oh man so anyway i don't people people do it and do it well uh but i also like you know respect your decision of like hey i got i got to they got take care of my kid here because it's a that's a that's a that's a real big thing well yeah yeah actually i think i cried the day i drove off camp lejeune knowing that that part of my life was going to be over yeah yeah i And, you know, I love the area down there. I really did.

Yeah, the love country. Yeah, exactly. Outside of Jacksonville, there wasn't, you know. Yeah. Let me clarify. Yeah, I did not like Jacksonville, but it were else. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Yeah, because, you know, my peer group was college, my buddies. So we would go over to East Carolina, which got us away from Jacksonville. You know, we hung out. One of the biggest party schools in the south. Yeah. Yeah. I learned how to shag and a bar. Hey.

Well, yeah. That's a dance. That's a dance. Yeah, no, no, I'm going to defend you here. Jeff knows he's a southern boy. Okay. Oh, yeah, right. Okay.

We're from the South. No, I, when I moved to California, so I had an uncle, I have an uncle. I have an uncle. He's still alive. My mom's brother, she grew up in Timonsville, South Carolina. Okay. And he is in like this, he's like, there's like some kind of hierarchy in the shag world of like South Carolina dancing in North Carolina and the Carolina. There's like a Carolina shag whatever. And he's like high up in it.

And I moved to California in 2012. And if you said like, oh yeah, you want to go shagging? People are like, whoa, what? And it's like, no, it's like a, it's like a kind of like a swing dance, but different. Yeah, no, that's a useful dance. That's a good one to have. I'm glad you'll clarify that. I thought it was like an awesome.

Yeah, right, right, right. It's a lot of foot movement. I assure you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The feet are moving nonstop. Yeah, Trey in Texas, I think you guys just call that the two-step. Yeah, it's just two-step. Yeah, it's just two-step.

So for these guys, big hockey fan over here, and we talk a lot of sports on the podcast. as you know, football's over. I'm a hockey fan. You know, I got the Northeast blood in me from my dad. And so I like the team. You hate the Bruins, but you're like really dialed into hockey.

Let's talk a little like Olympics hockey right now because it's live and it's current. What is the final game tomorrow? No, we go into this. I think they start to semi-finals tomorrow. Okay. semi-finals okay right so i mean ultimately we should end up playing canada okay that's what i thought i thought that uh your son said something about switzerland but is that for the semis correct yes okay got it okay

okay has that been determined you know i don't know i'm i'm uh i don't know if you know this or not but i'm a reservist and i fly to marr to new jersey to do marine stuff for five days so i've actually been I haven't been as sports focused as I'd like to be in the last 48 hours but yeah I think there's a get Jeff is there a game tomorrow got a USA versus Sweden Sweden that's what I mean yeah this will be 1 10 p.m. my time so that's yeah yeah whatever Zulu time yeah we get it okay so yeah yeah 330 here then yeah yeah yeah I wouldn't expect much from the Swedes okay and then Canada Do you expect much? Yeah, absolutely.

You know, I, you know, my son and I, we like to talk sports and argue about sports. However, we do agree that I believe Connor McDavid might be, you know, one of the best that I've certainly ever seen. You know, again, the game has changed a lot. I think the goaltenders are much more athletic than years ago. Okay. But, you know, again, as my son likes to say, the guys that play, in my day, couldn't play today, which I find out to be absolutely ridiculous, because my son has never, my son has never played a game with a red line.

Okay. Okay. So two line pass. So as I always go back to this, the Edmonton Oilers probably in my lifetime, the Wayne Gretzky Edmonton Oilers, probably the best team ever assembled. And if that team played without a red line, they would run it up on everybody today. Oh. They were just, they were that.

Yeah. They were that good. Yeah. Indeed. Did you, did you play? I did. Yes. Yeah.

Like, uh, okay. So climbing or like, this is your chance, you know, you're, what, 61? What's that? How old are you? 61, 62. No. 57. 57.

Yes. 57. You told me. Sorry. We got, I got to tell you, Troy, uh, sir, senior. There's a lot of folks in your demo that listen to the podcast, which I find hilarious. We thought, like, hey, we'll talk about lifting and we'll expand it, you know, and talk about fishing and hunting and whatever. Right.

But there's a lot of folks like that. So, sorry, 61 was on a plane. 57. You're a young man still. But this is your chance to, like, tell us, like, your top of your game, you know, like, what you did? Well, so growing up here, a lot of tributaries into the lake, so everybody had a pond, nobody had any money, right? So you always went garage sailing in the summer to get old hockey equipment. So everybody played, obviously.

And if we weren't on the ice and we were in the street, like Wayne's World Hockey, you know, game on, game off as the cars were coming. And so, yeah, about high school is when it really took off. And now, again, my son and I, we go back and forward about this a lot. I think players of my era were much more physical than today. And, you know, if not, then use the great equalizers, you know, a lot of stick work and elbows and things like that. So, but growing up here, so. And people find this kind of ironic is Troy and I are Toronto Maple Leaf fans. Yeah, I do find that ironic.

Yeah. So here in this area, you had Channel 50 out of Detroit, which broadcasts Red Wings. You had Channel 9 out of Windsor, and they broadcasts the Leaf Games. So every Saturday night, it was the thing, you know, turn on the Leafs. So, you know, a long-suffering Leaves fan, a lot to Boston. So yeah, then to back up, so when I got out of the Marine Corps, my best friend, he was a naval officer. And we grew up together from the time about fourth grade, high school, high school, blah, blah, he was transitioning out of the Navy.

He was going to law school. So I had just gotten divorced from Troy's mom. and he was limited in Colorado, moved out here, went to law school in Columbus. And on, it was Friday mornings, we used to play kind of like a drop-in against the varsity players from Ohio State who didn't dress that weekend. And we were out there, we're playing. You know, it was pretty fast, pretty high-calibre hockey. And we got invited to go. go out and play an exhibition or a scrimmage, I guess, for lack of a better term,

against the women's club team. Yeah. I'm wondering where this is going. This sounds like 20, this sounds like 2026 to me. Yeah. Yeah. So,

so we went, you know, we went out and played them. You know, obviously you dial it down. But, you know, some of them girls are pretty rugged.

And they had come up and ask us, would you be, have any interesting? interesting coaching. The women's team, well, no, but does it pay? Yeah, does it pay? Good question. So yeah, so yeah, it paid not well, but so we, we did that for three years.

He was going through law school and, you know, I was working and said, yeah, it was a lot of fun, traveled all over the country with that. And then they rolled out varsity. and so that you know they weren't going to hire a male coach at that time they went with a female coach but it was a wonderful experience like I said we got travel all over a lot of bus trips and my son Troy actually you know he he would come out with the practices so he got a lot of ice time there time on the ice it's like for surfers time on the water yeah right right right that's how you get better so um oh yeah go ahead well no go ahead go ahead go ahead

Where I live, we have a five-acre pond. And when that freezes over, we'll still go out. And you know, and you'll know this, gentleman, when you have children, it's a very sad day when they exceed where you are. Oh, yeah. It's like, how did this happen? Yeah. He's better than I am now, which I think he's still playing maybe in Palm Springs. springs you know i don't know we you know uh for the deployment you're just in such a different

mindset um it's like you're you know you're talking about leadership but yeah i you know now it's like i feel like you know you you start to you learn people in a real weird way on deployment because you live with them every day but then when you come back and people start to like re get into society you you start to realize like the other side i have no idea if he's still playing i i'll I'll tell you this, any, any, any games that were going, uh, in one seven, whether it was, you know, uh, first sergeant CEO, PME or whatever it was, uh, you wanted to get Troy Campbell the second on your team, right? You're like, are we playing softball?

We bowling. Are we doing volleyball? Like, you know, you want to, uh, I'll tell you one thing. And then we want to transition and we want to let these guys ask you some questions, maybe talk about lifting. we like to talk about lifting on this podcast. But, you know, I went bowling with Troy after the Super Bowl. We talked about it on last week's podcast.

And I think I bowled like, you know, 1.30, 140, 150. Yeah, we only had a few games. And I said something to him that night. My buddy Connor was there with me. And I said, so your dad, you know, because Troy just bowls a 200 plus out of the gates. I said, so your dad, like, see a good bowler? No. And I think you'll like this because I think you'll like,

this because of where I go with it. He goes, you know, he's the kind of guy that'll come in, throw the ball super hard, knocked down a bunch of pins, and like, you can always bet that he bowls a 130, but he's never going to break through. And I thought, no, no, I thought, I thought, Troy, you just described me. And I always thought a 200 was a possibility. If he said 130, I know, I don't think I've heard of it. Okay. Okay. Okay. While you were, while you were in Okinawa, he was hustling you. My wife, she bowled in college. Yeah. Yeah. So he was texting her getting hints, you know, move over two boards, nose or thumb to the nose. You know, to the nose. Right. So when I go bowling with my wife, she likes to coach me and I don't like to be coached.

Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people don't like to. be coached, which is probably a good transition. You know, you listen to this pod. I don't know how you found it, but what, you know, you're 57, your alignment. Are you still, you know, you're a former athlete, clearly. Are you lifting these days? Are you like when we go to diatribes about lifting, is that interesting to you? Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely. And I, you know, part of my ignorance because I really haven't wrapped my head around. around, you know, so I, off and on, you know, I've been lifting for probably 45 years, right? Sure. Probably never doing it right, to be honest with you. So with the strength, co-strient, starting strength, do I understand, like, okay, so are we, we're benching, deadlift, squat. Yeah.

Okay. Yes. You're squatting. So in like simple terms for the new person, starting strength is four movements, broken down into two workouts. Workout A, we call it, is squat three sets of five, press three sets of five, deadlift one set of five. Workout B, which you would do it at least two days later with at least one day of rest.

Okay. You would squat again three sets of five, but more weight. You would bench press three sets of five. And then you would deadlift one set of five. And you would alternate workouts A and B. Essentially, we say three days a week because we live in a seven-day week and it just kind of works well. But like Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So Monday, you would go a, Wednesday, B, Friday, A.

And the following week, you would go B-A-B, right? But you would just alternate. So the only thing that changes is the press and the bench press. And you essentially do that for as long as you can until you can stop adding weight to the bar. So the goal is like, hey, these four lifts are lifts that use the most muscle mass. I'm going to do these four lifts three times a week. And I'm just going to add a little bit of weight each time until that doesn't work. And then after that doesn't work, there's like a world of options you can go into.

but kind of our bread and butter and especially like how we kind of take that in the strength co is like hey you know we want to get you like goal number one squat your body weight for five you know deadlift your body weight for five but it's like hey if if I can walk in and do these four movements and every time I do it I can add weight I'm not going to change anything no variables added until that stops working and then once that stops working and it depends like is the person 80 or is the person 18? If they're 18 and drinking a bunch of milk and, you know, sleep in 10 hours a night,

that might work for four months. You know, if they're 40 and like peak of their career and really busy and don't sleep and have kids, that might work four weeks. But it's like, hey, let's get these easy,

we call them novice games. Like, let's get those before we move on. So we're starting heavy. and we're going heavier. Yeah, starting heavy is a relative term, and I'll let Tray speak out a little bit because he's kind of started it a few times,

but the real answer is day one, like if I were to train you tomorrow, I don't actually care what the number is, right? I'm going to do a couple things that you're not used to. I'm going to put the bar in the low bar position. I'm going to adjust your hands a little bit different than you probably would naturally do it. I'm going to make you shove your butt back,

and lean over into the squat because that uses more posterior chain. How I describe these lifts, so these are coach lifts. You wouldn't walk into the gym and do them the way that I'm going to teach you to do them. But on day one, you're going to be listening to me or whatever coach you got that's like, shove your butt back, shove your knees out, lean over more, drive your hips up. And I actually can't go super heavy because you have to like process the commands for the movement. You know this. You coached hockey.

It's like I can't, like I got to dial things down early on to make people understand what it is we're doing. But it will be difficult, right? So basically day one, it's like as heavy as you can comprehend. And what I often tell people is I'll tell them on day one. I just said this last Saturday. I said, right now you're, you are stronger than you are good. And I'm a homeschooled South Carolina boy. So I know that sounds like dumb English, but it's it like means a lot.

Like you're actually capable of lifting more weight, but your skill level is super low. And so like we got to make, I'm going to bring your skill level up fast, but I got to actually bring down what you're capable of to like find a medium where like you're 90% right. You're doing the lift 90% right. And that means that we took weight off the bar. So yeah. Okay.

And then we go heavier each time. Okay. But in small increments. So, you know, when years ago, and I guess even today is, you know, I would do a warm-up set of 135. Yep. 185, 205, 225, okay, flirt with 315, you know, at the end. So we're saying we're starting somewhere, we'll say 200 pounds. We're doing three sets of five.

Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. And that scenario we're, I assume you're talking about the squat when you're, you're, you're talking about the squat when you say those numbers bench press bench press okay yeah yeah so we're basically finding what we can do for three sets of five okay in the bench press specifically like where your elbows aren't flaring right like you're keeping a scapular retraction in the bottom like it doesn't have to be perfect i think a lot of folks try to make it perfect and so then they don't go up it doesn't

be perfect but it needs to be pretty it needs to be good um and so yeah we wouldn't do what you're saying. So we would, we would say, hey, Troy can do 220 for three sets of five clean. Well, then everything before that, like the warm up where you're like, I'm going to do 135, 185, 205. I don't actually care about that. I do want to get you warmed up to be ready for 220. Right. But I want to do it in a way that doesn't wear you out. So I might have you do the bar for two sets of five. And then like 95 for a set of five. And then like 95 for a set of five. And then. and 135 for three. And your math is kind of correct, but then 185 for two and 205 for one,

because I want to get the brain ready for what 20 is going to feel like, but I don't want to exhaust you on the way there because the goal is to lift three sets of five that I haven't lifted before. And how much time between sets? Three to five minutes is what we say. If you're new and the skill level is not high, three is plenty. once you get good. I mean, like if I go into the gym and I'm going to squat,

you know, I don't know, 365 for three sets of five, I need five minutes in between or I'm going to miss. I mean, it's like it's like the reason we got a fourth line, right? It's like, hey, the hockey players go out there and they get gassed. Could they keep playing hockey? Yes, but they're going to be exhausted. So we're going to pull them off and put the second line in. And, you know, obviously there's other strategies in hockey that you know better than I, but part of the reason is, like, the guys get gassed.

And so it's like if the weight's actually heavy on any of the lifts you're doing, squat, press, bench, deadlift, if I'm going to do it again, I need to rest and I quit a amount of time. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Squatting. That's, I'm always kind of apprehensive because I've had a couple of issues with my back. and I'm sure you know what I'm talking about you know when you you have to wipe from the front

because you're throwing your back out. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, right, right. So, yeah, and you know, I don't ever want to go there again. Nope. Trey, what would you say? You're like, I always, Troy, like to kick you to these guys because I sell plates and coaching for a living,

but like they're just normal consumers. What would you say about like squats and being nervous about your back. I would say just like before you start, I feel like that a lot of people have that same concern. So I feel like you're not, you're not alone in that for sure. But I would say the main thing,

one, once you get the form down and you start feeling comfortable at and weight, every time I've gotten heavy on the squad, I've always noticed that like my, just I feel better in general, like my quality of life. So then that kind of fear kind of goes away. So I think that's a reason. fear to have but I feel like the more you do it the more comfortable you feel the better that that

fear tends to like it goes to the back of your mind okay like you're not really worry about it so okay yeah and a back pain guy if you came in like literally if you came into my gym and we're like I'm concerned about the back like we're not you know everyone sees power lifters they see the extremes on the internet and it's like hey I mean my dad's you know, he's much older than you. He's 69. And when he's been lifting for seven years now, and he had just had a knee replacement when he started.

Oh, wow. And yeah. And he told me, he said, I can't bend my knee past parallel. And he was out of here visiting. I was like, well,

you got to come into the gym. Like I own this business. You need to support it. And he was like, okay, fair. So they came in. And,

and of course, his knee bent past parallel, right? And he was able to squat to depth. But we just did the empty bar. I think that day maybe we did like 70 pounds. And he could have done more that day. But there's an element of coaching where it's like, hey, I could go heavier,

but I want to build confidence, right? And this is a thing where, you know, that comes with experience. And so like I think we squatted 70 pounds for three sets of five. I have no doubt he could have done 135 pounds that day. But I wanted him to feel confident. So we kind of like scaled it back. He's worried about his new knee. He's worried about his back, right?

He's 62 at the time. And then it's just like, hey, we're going to go up five pounds. When you hear 70 pounds and hear up five pounds, you don't get scared. But if you think about it, it's like, well, that's 15 pounds a week. So that's 60 pounds a month. So like if he actually does this, which most people don't, like he's going to be at 1.35 in one month's time, right? One month and one more workout.

He's going to go from 71, 35. And so for folks that have injuries, injuries are real, right? You know way better than me. I, the older I get, the more cautious I am to tell folks older than me about stuff. Because like, I'll be 38 this year. And I'm like, whoa, stuff feels different. But what I'll tell you is there is 90, wait till you're 57. I can only imagine.

But what I'll tell you, what I'll tell you, Troy, is there's a 92 year old lady that was in my gym yesterday, deadlifting. Right. God bless her. Yeah, yeah, seriously. So there's, yeah, there's a progression you can go through. And that's the key is to find something that's pain free, where you have confidence and slowly build from there. And if you're 18, I'm going to like turn the dial

and I'm going to make you uncomfortable, just like you do with your athletes coaching hockey. Because you're going to learn a lot. For you, you've already learned a lot. But like, I need to make you feel comfortable in terms of, like, hey, I can do this weight and then slowly add and then, you know, it just builds over time. I'm not going to lie, man. I got a lot of miles and they're not highway miles.

Those are city miles. Knees, shoulders. You know, all that shagging. All that shagging, man. Yeah. It's, it's 29 years of line work. And, you know, and that's that. So the commitment,

because these are non-traditional hours, right? Somebody hits a poll at 2 o'clock in the morning. Somebody's got to come in and fix that pole. Okay, so in a storm situation, we work 16 hours on, eight hours off. So with, you know, 40-minute drive home, shower, blah, blah, blah, you're looking at on a good night, five-hour sleep. Oh, yeah. You know, so it's tough to fit that in. we do have a fitness center at work Smith machine you know so yeah it's possible it's just

getting into a steady rhythm to you know my wife god bless her you know we'll be out to dinner and the phone rings you're on call you got to go right i mean here you are podcasting nearly at midnight just to talk. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, no, no, I get. We got a nice storm going on up north again. So I may be up there tomorrow.

Yeah. Yes. Guys, what, before we take him through the standard protocols of OK podcast guests, we want to respect his time, keep him at an hour. You guys got any, I don't know, you got Midwest questions. You got hockey questions. You got, we'll kick it to Jeff and then over to Trey. anything you want to give Troy Senior

before we give him the Can I ask a question real quick? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Have I made you at least a little bit of a Buckeye at this point? I told you, our famed is cheap, Troy. Yeah, I remember that. I mean, just a little bit, right? So what is outside of here, okay,

because now, mind you, we live 40 minutes from Ann Arbor. So there's a lot of Michigan fans here. Oh, yeah. lot of Ohio State fans, also a lot of Notre Dame and Michigan State fans. So outside of this region, what is the rub about Ohio State? Overhyped, under Produce? Oh, I can take this one. Please. Yeah, Trey, take it. Take it. He's got it. So I, I, so going into the Marine Corps, I had no concept of Ohio State fans. I never dealt with them, never did meet any of them. and then I get into the Marine Corps,

and I meet, there's a ton of Ohio State fans, like, in the Marine Corps. Individually, the best people. It's the problem is when they start grouping together, and it's like, golly, you're the most obnoxious. It's just yelling and, like, well-deserved, you keep winning, and so I guess props to you. That was the beginning of my rub with Ohio State. was when they got grouped

together and they would start getting rowdy. Okay. And then I would. Yeah, that's kind of probably where mine started. And then I started rooting against them just to give them, just to give them crap. You know how it goes. Okay. I do.

Yeah. That's about all we got up in these parts. Hey, Troy, I got a, I actually can relate to Trey's rub. But at the same time, he's an act. So, like, I feel for you there, too. Like, you put a couple Aggies in the room and, like, you got the same thing going. I actually, I 100% agree. Okay.

My only rub is winning. And I think the reason it rubs me is because when Lou Holtz came to South Carolina, like, I'm, I'm a kid. And I remember being at the New Mexico State game in 1999, South Carolina beats New Mexico State. and they hadn't won I think they lost 22 games straight something like that 18 someone fact check me whatever they had the whole season before they lost every game when they lost

some games and then they beat New Mexico State and they tore the goal post down and Lou Holtz then led us to like three seven or eight wins seasons which included outback bowl wins at the two of them against Ohio State and so

I always I always was like oh Ohio State's like the Gamecocks. Like we're out here like slugging it out for like seven, eight wins a year and going to Orlando. And then all of a sudden it was like, bam, Jim Trussell, Ohio State just wins 12 games a year. And I'm like, well, that's not fair. That didn't happen to me. So that's my personal rub. It's just jealousy. Yeah. It's just jealousy. Yeah. No, I get it. But believe me, you know, we spent our time in the wilderness too, you know, the John Cooper years. As I say to everyone, I'm not mad that we lost the Air Force in a bowl game.

I'm mad that we played Air Force in a bowl game. That's right. That's a great line. That's great. That's really good. I guess the question I had for you, speaking of Ohio State, is what's your temperature on Ryan Day? Because I feel like I get a mixed bag with Ohio's Day fans.

It's hard to argue the wins and losses, right? Obviously, the Michigan thing could be better. I do think we were young last year. But I mean, what you lost the national champions by what was at seven points. And then you lost in Miami by 10. So Ryan Day, I take Jim Tressel. Yeah. And that's kind of the vibe.

It's like he wins a lot, but he doesn't win the right games. Correct. Yeah. Do you think it's that or do you think he's just not very like? And I would put the same question on me. Like, Beamer came in and was super likable, but then he doesn't win. And now he winds a lot. I'm just kind of like, I actually, my beef with you is like, I don't really enjoy you as a person anymore.

Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. You know, for me, the whole landscape has changed. You know, it, and I don't know, it's never going to go back with the money that's involved. No. You know, like the pros, I would like to see these kids sign a contract where they at least have to stay, right? I mean, you might know five different old or fight songs by the time you graduate college. It doesn't that just sound sad?

It is. It absolutely is. Yeah. Like that alone is sad. Yeah. But, you know, I am a big Rockets, Toledo Rockets fan. Okay. Obviously, Troy went to Miami.

So, you know, they're rivals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like to think that maybe at that level it's still pure to some degree, but in reality, it's not. Yeah. You know, which works out well for Toledo because it seems every year we get an Alabama transfer up here. You get to watch them on Tuesday nights, action.

So, yeah, no, it's, yeah, I don't know where it's going, but Ryan Day, I'm kind of somewhere in the middle with him. Okay. That's kind of the vibe I gave from most of Ohio State. But, you know, Prophecy, Texas A&M, Miles Garrett, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're long-suffering Browns fans, too. Well, we did observe Johnny Mansell, and that was a disaster.

Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Yeah, they sold a lot of jerseys, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah. Jeff, you get a college football stuff before we take him through the the ringer. I didn't have any college football

questions. I kind of wanted to kick it back to some a Marine question. Oh yeah. Kick it over. I mean like two of the classic just, you know, moves, a new Marine makes. So there it's enlisted and then officer's side too. We're not, we weren't immune to this. I saw many

a fellow officer make these mistakes. Did you go out right away? Do you got any Moto tattoos and he's like like, try the Eagle Globe and anchors? No. Did you go get a car with a 25%? interest load or do you see any buddies kind of fall into those pitfalls? No, you know, I was pretty grounded.

You know, I promised my mother that I would never get a tattoo. I never have. Yeah, no, as far as the, you know, like the boot jacket, you know, the red satin with all the places you've been. No, I never did that. Oh, I don't know. That tradition's gone by the waist. Yeah. Oh, I'll hear about this.

early 90s because we're not doing that anymore. I'll send you a picture of one of them. Yeah, no, it was red set and it said U.S. Marines and, you know, like Okinawa. Schwab. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Wherever you flew over, you know, you got a ribbon or whatever the hell of it. Yeah.

Yeah. But no, like I said, you know, when I got my feet wet and I knew the Marine Corps. when I wasn't doing Marine things, I didn't want to be around the Marine Corps. Yeah. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I think it's healthy, actually.

You know, again, I mean, it is defined who I am. I loved the Marine Corps. I loved being a Marine. It's made me the man I am, for sure. Yeah, no, I'll tell you, it was cool. This guy came to the ball in Vegas, and it kind of hit me, you know, mainly because you're my buddy's dad, but it's like, you see, like the main.

any metals, right? And it's like, and you did like four years plus one of the reserves 40 years ago. Yeah. And it's like, yep. And it's like, oh, like one of us. And there's a guy I left with three days a week at the gym. He's 61. That's why I called you 61. I'm sorry. His name's Ray, also Catholic, also Marine. And he was one seven. And I'm going to butcher it. and he's going to make fun of me next Monday. Very close to you. Like maybe he was 86 to 90 or 87 and 91, like right in that time frame.

He went to Hanson. You guys might have been there at the same time. But it's like I'm coming back from deployment and I need my 96 Chevy to come up to 29 palms because, you know, they can't figure out how to pay for rental cars because of a government shutdown and all this crap. And I'm like, man, who can I get to like,

like make a four-hour drive to 20-end palms to drop off this, you know, crummy truck that I need that's going to be super useful. And I need two people because the guy's got to get back. So I'm like, I call my uncle and I call the guy that was one seven 40 years ago. And I come back from deployment and there's my truck. Right. And so it is, yeah, there's something. Yeah, there's something, you know, we make lightheart and the,

and the staff brief at the beginning. And, you know, we make fun of all the things that are funny. but it's like there's something. Everybody knows what you went through and it's a different caliber of person. Yeah, it's cool. Absolutely. Yeah, no, like I said, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Yeah, I really did. You know, I met some of the best people and obviously some of the not-so best people. You definitely meet some of the worst. Trey, why don't you take it through the ad read? So you've listened enough to where you've heard one of these ad reads before i have yes yes okay so you you know the tax guy what j w is it j w taxes that close enough yeah i'm sorry my apology bw bw taxes yes for a guy who works a lot for a guy who works a lot

of overtime trying to figure out no tax on overtime with the big better deal good luck with that b j can help you i suppose that's the ad read right there i feel like it's got we're done we didn't have to anything you can't prepare i work i work a lot over time i need all the hope i can get yeah yeah well there you go he's a good guy better at taxes that's what jv he's not a jovahs witness but he might be if it gives some more tax business true uh jeff i feel like this is going to be easy for you today i do too i do too okay are you may also know the company guns name jones Gunny Jones Gunny Jones

Yeah If maybe he ever You know Locked somebody down In the company office Or something like that Or banging on doors At you know

Zero 430 in the morning Okay Marines, okay Here we go Get up, Dries and shine So we want to hear You're okay

Your best whether it was Gunny Jones Or if you was you ever As a young corporal Or a young sergeant Never had to you know, get a Marines attention and you just give them a good okay. You put context to it?

Or you can just yell okay. We don't care. Whatever you want to do. My wife is sleeping, so I don't want to yell too long. Yeah, you got to keep it down. Yeah, yeah. Happy wife, happy life. Oh, man.

Okay. Okay. So to back up, is that something the Marine Corps does now? Okay. In our version of the Marine Corps. Us three. It looks like something that just. It's part of our like, yeah, our, our, we, we kind of, yeah, we kind of, I think that kind of starts.

So we all live together for a while as lieutenants. Okay. And, you know, we, you'd go to work and the gunny would be annoying or the captain, you know, we're lieutenants or whatever. And it was kind of like, you know, you'd see a roommate leaving without a belt. And you'd be like, okay, I know we wear a freaking daggone belts. And it was just like to be funny. Like, like, I would never say this, but like, I'm an officer.

You're an officer. I got to keep you in line. And so then it just became this thing where we would say like, okay. And then we'd say something. Okay. And it doesn't make sense to a lot of folks, but it makes sense to the three of us. And we've decided to do this 97 times. So therefore, the listeners have to deal with it.

I feel it is for sure in the lexicon of the Marine Corps. Yeah, the lexicon. So let me ask you, gentlemen. So Jeff and Grant, you're both majors. And Trey, you got out as a captain. I was awarded captain on my, when I was in the IR, yeah. So I guess for me, what was more enjoyable in your time as lieutenants or as you climbed in rank? Jeff, take it first.

It's a good question. That is a great question. Lieutenant time is obviously, to me, I think that's like the most fun in a lot of ways because you have a lot of other lieutenants, especially if you're like a battery or company, right? You're all kind of going through it. You're kind of all figuring out stuff together. And also just pretty formative years like of your life in general. But now as a major, I guess more to say like that's when I would.

been like a battery commander and that's also been to me just like the most worthwhile like to me the most uh fulfilling and like impactful time of of like my time in the marine corps so a little different a lot less fun you don't have as many as many buddies uh right you have zero buddies um so yeah it's just a very it's very different but in a lot of ways you're like, oh, I can make a lot more stuff happen and things will be a lot more impactful and I can pull a lot more levers. That's great. Yeah.

So it's interesting. That's actually a really good question. Lieutenant Time, like we got a group thread where it's like, it's called tango plus tray because we were tango battery 511 and there's like eight of us in it. Okay. And then we added tray because he was in the sister battery, but he like lived with us. And like to this day, it's like somebody will have a baby. It'll be a football game. And like that thread will just go off.

And it's like, man, what a time. We were all like 25 living in Southern California. Like that was amazing. At the same time, like as a major, like I met your son who's like a good buddy of mine. And I came back from deployment. And I told Diane, I say, you know, like 1,200 people I left with. and I was like, and this is like, these are people that I came back with that are like friends, right? And, you know, I named her.

As we were going to the balls, like, when we meet this person, like, that's a person you're going to deal with me calling five years from now. I'd be like, oh, we got to see how he's doing. But I think, I think Jeff is on to something and the officer vision's a little different. And the junior and the young Marines don't always know it. but it is super fulfilling being up in the ranks because of your lieutenant times and you remember the things that they gripe about and now you can actually influence and no one thinks you're influencing right they just think like major brogue treats everyone like crap right like no one actually thinks but you're like oh you have like no idea like how much better you know we made

your lives or whatever the cases but i don't know i'd say that they're probably equal to me. Lieutenant Time was some really formidable years, but yeah, it's interesting. For me, I used to think Captain was the best, but okay.

Majors were very, elusive. You know, I, if I saw a handful of majors in my entire time in, we just never saw majors. Yeah.

Some more generals. Oh, yeah, yeah, one time. One time. Al Gray did come speak to us on ship. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah. He was pretty contankerous. We got to actually let Trey go before we make you say okay and boot you out here. Trey, four and out. What would you say? Because you got more civilian time than any of us. Like as you look back now, we're all the same age. Like Lieutenant Time versus like, I don't know, business relationships you've made.

like because you do make relationships outside of the Marine Corps that are also phenomenal. They're not this. They're not the same. You know, it's like you're, I would say even I think if I would have stayed in, something about like the second lieutenant time is one, it's, it is formative like y'all said, but it's also, it's nice because like no one expects you to know anything. Okay. And so like you can one, get away with law and then it's just. And you get influence or like you meet a lot of people who are like are very influential on. Sure.

And so I just, I would probably just go back to that for that reason. I just, I met a lot of staff and COs who I thought were great people who taught me a lot, majors, captains, kind of the same thing. So a lot on what not to do too. So I don't know. I would probably still say second lieutenant. I think it's just very unique in that aspect. Okay, yeah, it makes sense.

But yeah, and then if you go into business, yeah, you mean a lot of great people in like regular business, but I don't know. It's, as you know, Troy, it's like it's not the same. No, not as far as like, no, not at all. It's a different relationship. Right. When I came out of the Marine Corps and I went to a union shop, I mean, that, that was an eye opener. You know, you can't do this. You can't do this. You know, things that we took for granted, you know, some go there and get this.

Well, no, you can't do that. that that's somebody else's job and when I started you know we were 90% veterans in my shop now I'm the only one there wow yeah so I'm always trying to you know perpetuate the trade to get those kind of guys in because I it's kind of like a natural progression right that teamwork type thing yeah yeah yeah okay okay okay that's a that's the most Midwestern okay we've ever had that's I was going to go with the old hands in the pocket. Okay, so we just want to have our hands in our pockets.

No, that was great. That was great. It sounded like, it sounded like Toledo, Ohio in language. So, you know, we, we have on this podcast what we like to call D-List celebrities, meaning like they were good at something, just most people have never heard of them. And I mean that as a compliment. But sometimes D-List celebrities want people to like look them up somewhere. I don't think you're a guy that wants people to follow them on social media.

You don't seem to. But is there anything that you're like, I don't know. I like this charity or if you're a Marine getting out, you should look up where I work. Is there anything that you would like to turn listeners to that, you know, the people that listen, which is my mother, might want to know about? No, not really. You know, as I've said in the past, if any of you gentlemen know, you know, somebody who might be interested in this line of work, reach out to me and I will do whatever I can to, you know, put them on that path. Because honestly, I can sell you some hoses. Oh, do you?

That's some non-conductive hoses. I'll sell to you all day. Oh, no kidding. Who do you work for? I work for a company called Kiriyama, but they make piranha hoses. Okay. Okay. So.

Yeah, that's, hoses are a big part of what we. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hold all sidebars till the end.

Wow, George, you're really perked up there. He's like, whoa, you saw hoses? Well, you used to be a proper country.

Yeah, I'm getting ready to retire. So, that's a story for another time. Yeah. Well, thanks for coming on. We really appreciate it.

We know it's late over there, but I really do appreciate you coming on. If you come to Southern California, you got a, free visit to the Strenco. You're a lifetime member. Your lifetime member. Anytime you want to come in, you let me know if I'm anywhere in that cold

slop, I'm going to come by and see you. I may be going to Wisconsin in May, so we may have to figure out a meet out. Hey, if you guys are back down to the Arnold, Arnold in a year or two, please. Yeah, we'll be back. I will swing down and I'll show you some of the old haunts. Yeah. We need to get Troy back on before college football season. Yeah, please do.

We'll get you back on. We'll get you. We'll probably do a call-in show week one and make guests, make the picks of their teams games for the season. So, yeah, your voice will be on the podcast again. But, sir, appreciate your service, seriously. And also, thanks for coming on and we'll talk to you soon. No, I appreciate you guys making me a small part of what you're doing. It's wonderful, really.

Yeah. And, hey, shoot me some addresses, and I will get you guys some treasures from Toledo sent out to you. You got it. That's my job. These guys won't do it, but I'll do it. Yeah, please. All right. Hey, God bless you guys.

Hey, see it. It's been a pleasure. Have a good day. Yes, sir. Later. Good, dude. Good dude. Good, dude.

Four departments in four years. That was insane. Oh, yeah. And then I went on another one. And then I went on. Oh, then we got back. back and then we immediately, I was like, dang. And then I was going to go to the rest of my guys went to South America after we get on

another. But I didn't know. One, two was getting worked. Jeez. I love that. What's their motto? Something about following. More to follow.

Others will follow. You sure? Make sure you have a passport ready. Man, that, I mean, I thought he just like went to Hanson one time. I didn't know he went to Japan twice and did ship stuff. Yeah, that's. Awesome. Japan twice.

Good dude. Saudi Arabia. Is that what it is? Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia, tomato. Yeah. I'm going to look at this notes

here. I'm going to look at the slide deck. And we all participate in that. Oh, you guys are great. Yeah. I think we need to talk two things. Three.

Trash here. I'm going to dictate a little bit. Three, first. Give me your input. What do you think we need to talk about? This is a quick hitter, but I'm pumped for the, well, Johnny Blue Skies, aka Sturgle Simpson album. Okay, that was on my list of two. Yeah.

What do you think about that? So no streaming. I'm pumped. I love it. I could not be more fired up. Are you tracking this train? No, what's the story? You're not tracking.

Sturgle Simpson's coming out with a new album that will not be allowed to be streamed. It can only be on cassette, CD, or vinyl. Yeah. only physical media, which I don't, I mean, I don't know of any other like, I'm sure there's probably some other artists that has done this, but like, to me, it seems like a pretty unique move. I can't think of anybody. I didn't know people still make cassette. I know. I'm fired up.

I got a 97 Chevy with a cassette tech. Oh, dude. Does it work? Yeah, it does. My 97 in South Carolina has a cassette. deck. My 96 in South California has a Bluetooth thing. It still is a CD

player. So I'm by CD for the 97 and a cassette for the 96. Might as well get all three. Yeah. Oh, I mean, obviously I'm getting the vinyl. That's a given. Yeah. I don't mean why. Trey, what's wrong with you? What are you from

what are you from Texas? Yeah, I'm fired up about that. I feel like we should do some X comments. Let's do it. So they were popping off. Yeah, I'll go twofold, and I made sure I logged into everything. So first, we'll start with a positive, and then we'll go to the negative. Okay.

And, Jordy, I don't know if you need to. I'm going to share screen for these guys benefit. Jordy, I don't know if it matters for you. But this one, wow. At the start of the show, I wanted to say, It was at 1.2,000 likes. It's at 3.5,000 likes now, 200,000 or 190,000 followers.

But this is Korky. She's 92. She's coming to the gym three days a week, five years now. She drives herself to the gym. She goes heavy some, heavier some days, but most she just does something.

She has kids, grandkids, great grandkids, and gets to interact with them all. And this is true. This is a friend of mine. This is a real person, Corky Rawlings, a family friend of mine that I met the day I moved to California

or thereabouts. she's been coming to the gym since 2020 we posted her on our Instagram the Strength Co who were powered by this week and it was a video from 2020 because I dropped weights off

to her house but yes she's still lifting and so that one's been super positive the comments are super fine so go to the Strength underscore Co and you can look at that it's not AI now let's go to the really fun stuff and it's twofold I'm wearing this Fountain Valley

shirt. So Connor teaches Fountain Valley weightlifting. He's like, hey, can we make a shirt? He's like, I found this old school logo. And I'd like, can you guys see me right now or just see the screen? 19. Yeah, yeah.

Sorry, it's weird the way it looks for me. He's like, I found the old logo of this barren guy. He's from like the 80s. Now I want to make him squatting. And he's like, put on a shirt. So he sends me this logo. And if you look at this logo and I don't know what you guys can see because I'm sharing screen. But if you look at it from an angle, it kind of looks like three

plates. He sent me the logo, right? And I was like, yeah, I can make the shirt. He's like, I want this made in USA, the squat T, whatever, whatever color yellow this is. So like, yeah, I'll make the shirt and he's like, I need these sizes for all my kids. So I tweet and I've been, and I'm going to pull it up now. I've been kind of like on my game back on the X. And one of the things I do is I'll like talk about business in order to get business, right? So like the point of this tweet was like, hey, by the way,

I also own this company that makes t-shirts for small businesses, right? That's the message. So I take the photo of the shirt and I say local high school, hired my T-shirt company for the lifting club. They wanted their mascot squaring 315. Obviously, we worked in some made-in USA plates.

And the point was like, I own the Shrenco, we can also make T-shirts. And the comments are, just like homie got to put up more plates than that hashtag Paris Playman, that's good one. How do I get in contact with by shorts?

Good. Looks like shit and that's not 315. Okay. And then some people they should sell them as a fundraiser. You know? Is this going to go on?

Can Jim pop by them? why didn't you make it 315? And I've also gotten DMs of like, it's not 315, it's 225. And I'm like, you guys are missing the point. So that's thing one.

And thing two, which is really random. And I actually might mass produce this shirt that people can just walk around on Fountain Valley High School shirts. But I had another good one. I'd wear one. That people really didn't like it.

It was 315 out. Yeah, no, yeah. Hold on. Yeah. if it was 315 good point jray i'm i'm scrolling here now i can't remember which one it was see how i'm prepared i am without you guys when you guys don't that's not 350 yeah i can't find it now this lady needs your own social media there was another one with a lot of hate oh here it is here it is all right so i i do an intro to barbells we call the stringo goes to me so where new people come in and

we teach metal lift and so i'd make this video of me teaching this woman how to deadlift. And I just put 62-year-old Hannah on her first day in the gym. Her and her husband came in today at the encouragement of their son, which is true. Here she is deadlifting. 62 pounds by five. Never deadlifted before in her life. Also true.

She's not 62. It's not her first day in the gym. And you're not the kind of trainer who should be working with novice trainees. I've seen lots of these guys like you trying to insert yourselves into sports as quote, strength and conditioning coaches and never would allow near my trainees. Why is she deadlifting anything on her first day in the gym? Wow.

I said, why not? Seems like she should be doing the elliptical and super lightweight for a few days and not any weightlifting. But hey, what do I know? Me, not much. We work with the most de-trained all the time. Eliptical is a waste of time.

She's not here to get sweaty. She's here to get strong. Get your muscles moving and condition a little bit before tearing them down is what I'm talking about. Hey, sounds like you know more than me. So you do you. And then it just kept going on.

Everyone kept replying. Was her back sore the next day? Incredible work. 62, a woman delifting her own weight and great technique on first attempt. Shocks, it's a good one. Yeah, there was a lot of first day, my ass.

There was a lot of positives, but 62 my ass. I hate to break it to you guys, but it's all true. But I think that why that mind boggled me and we'll get off of X and we'll, I got to learn how to stop sharing screen. It's like, okay, for a 62-year-old woman,

I don't know what's impressive. Maybe 135's impressive, but it was like literally a 10-kilogram bar with tens on each side plus five pounds, 10 bumpers and 5 pounds. Like you guys are acting like I made her deadlift 300 and fail and pop her spine. Like I'm not like 62 year old woman deadlift's 300 pounds.

It's like, brother, are you scared of deadlifting 62 pounds? Like that is literally and I hate when everyone's like, oh, you need a left weight so you can carry in the groceries. I mean, I like it like that's good, but it's like 62 pounds is essentially the groceries. like it's not like anything crazy right oh my gosh the internet I love it I love it it's good

corkey's trending go like corky on the strength go X which we're supposed to be live on today and I don't think it worked thanks for nothing Jordy make a Dunkin go across the screen but we're live somewhere somewhere somewhere we're live somewhere there's one person watching I think it's me

you should uh you should make a shirt of corkey squad 315 i should this this is a good shirt by the way found valley barrens i like it good shirt yeah i'm actually a big fan i'll see if connor will give you guys a couple limited run limited edition any save rounds for we take this thing down for landing um or i got one big curling guy so when you put that curling topic in there what's what's the controversy you didn't see this Oh, you're not aware.

Canada versus Sweden. Yeah. Sweden called out Canada for like double touching. So like let's go the stone. The Canadian guy and then like kind of like follows it with his finger and like definitely touches it. And the guy's like, hey, you can't do that. And he's like, I didn't do it.

He's like, you definitely did. You can't do that. And then get a little shouting match. Pretty good. It's pretty funny. It's pretty. Massonomics made a great meme. of it. Yeah, yeah, they did do it.

Yeah, that's a great meme. Good job, Mass. Yeah. Potential sponsor. Apparently, the the tradition is in curling, the losing team has to buy the winning team of beer. I like that. Do you know that? Burling or curling.

Curling. Okay, hurling is also a sport that BW tax does, like BW himself. It's an Irish sport. Is that where you throw stuff over, like really high? You have, no, you have like a wooden um kind of looks like a hockey stick yeah yeah yeah i was like a field hockey stick and yeah it's kind of like field hockey but irish oh bws can be so mad the tv does this or jv does this

well i you know i wanted to correct him but it was almost better that he called him j w because i mean i hope it works out for the google sceo if you know if you google j w let me look if you google j w let me look If you Google JW Tax LLC. It's a different tax. We just start funneling. He sucks in taxes. They suck in taxes. JW tax sucks at taxes and a bad guy.

They do this. I've been audited so many times. Not a sponsor. He's not a sponsor. Yeah. Don't Google. Google BW. Yeah.

The curling was a big controversy. Everyone was really upset. Yeah. Well, I've been, I've been, me and have you been watching it pretty consistent. Do you understand the rules yet? Because we, we haven't looked at the rules, but we don't quite understand. But we're like, I feel like this is the, this is the first year that I'm like, I feel pretty comfortable with it. Yeah.

Now, all the terminology, I don't know. Like when they, when they talk about like, oh, this rocks has a name. This is shot rock and this one's on. Shot rock. That one's in the house. Okay, guys, whatever you're saying right now, that's how I feel when people watch Lord of the Rings. Like, whatever that feeling is, it's like, I kind of get what's going on, but I don't really. But not really.

Yeah. Frodo, Bilbo, it's a Hobbit. It's not Narnia. It looks like Narnia to me. Obi-Wan, yeah. Yeah. No, okay. I can relate now, but, no, I, yeah, we've been, especially because we've been up, at like,

3 a.m. for no not a guy with kids fun there's so yeah there's three reasons why we've been up but um so and then curling's always on so we're like yeah let's just watch curling for us so it's great might as well I want to try it go as

go USA beat Canada we got to say it again any more save rounds or alibis no Robert Duval uh asked away a k a lieutenant colonel

Kilgore. From Godfather. A lot of things. Robert E. Lee from gods and generals. I mean, that's what hit my heart. I think Godfather, Robert E. Lee and Bill Kilgore. Loadsome dove.

Yeah. Loadsome dove. It's a lot. I like his character, Lott, gone in 60 seconds. Yeah. I do. I like that movie a lot. No. Yeah. 166th.

It's great. Underrated. It is all. out of his whole catalog that's what you That's it That's like me Oh man

I love Scarlett Johansson And Home Alone 3 Yeah She's so great I had so much fun To Gillbockingbird Tinder mercies Um

Thank you for smoking I forgot he's in that one A huge fan of thank you for smoking The judge My wife and I watch recently Great Santini People in college

Wyatt great Santini Buford South Carolina Pat Conroy Citadel grad. Citadel grad. Yeah, it's on, it's a sling blade. My buddy's watched in college. I could never really get into it, but I respect the acting.

It's fun to bait Mark Ripeto in the starting strength account because I can bait bait engagement on X. And last night I was just like, I wonder what Mark Ripito is doing right now. instantly retweeted, posted, watching the entire Robert Duvall catalog. And I'm like,

that's it. What else could you want? RIP. This is breaking news to me. I did not realize he passed away. Oh. Yeah, he's dead. He's dead. I'm sorry. You got a moment of silence for the troops? Yeah, a little bit. Okay, hang on. Let me tear my head off.

Okay. I can't go that high. I'm sorry too. Appreciate it. Never forget. We support the troops. Yeah. No, that's sad.

Hey, time marches on. Sammy Curshaw? Who said time marches on? I think it's Sammy Curshal. Time marches on. If only it has a device, Tracy Lawrence, yeah.

you know why you know that because you're from the Texas Hey a couple of there We had some comments we didn't read out BW Tech himself commenting on your deadlift and said you should add some tall grass because 405

was too easy It was so easy Yeah dude you could have done 500 for five Dude The first of that It looked so easy It was the straps

Where'd you get those straps? Get strapped, brother. Get strapped or get clapped. Yeah, that's what I always say. That's what I've always said. What straps did you? Did you tell me to use? The strength of straps.

Oh, you're using the necktie ones. The necktie. Yeah, the necktide. Yeah, they're good. I've never used this before. What's the way of it? Yeah, so the guy that, ships or Wisconsin

warehouse has gotten in the leather making I say gotten in he's been into it five years so he makes her belts he makes straps and I've always been the loop guy like you know it's like yeah you know I'm talking about right it's like one end with a loop you go through like that's always been my style and he was like use these necktie ones they're way better and I was like nope I've done the figure eight thing I've done all this stuff I'm a I'm a loop

guy and then i think on deployment he sent me some and i didn't bring any and i was like oh this is way better so it's just like a i don't let me know how it's like putting on a bracelet right so you put the bracelet on and then on the inside of your palm it comes together and there's one piece of leather that comes out so you just put it on like a bracelet and that's hanging down like between your middle and ring finger. And then you just flip that back and grab it. And it's actually better because with the loop one, there's like a left and or right actually.

I mean, there's not. You could, you could pull it out and go through the other way, but there's kind of a left and or right. Or it has to be set up for a left and right, I guess is the right way to put it. And yeah, they're phenomenal.

And there's like less extra leather hanging because everyone wants to like grab all the leather. I'm like, you're missing the point. Like, it just has to go around and you grab it. Yeah, a big fan of the necktie and Trey used them. Yeah, it was great. I'll also say, Tray. The only reason I think I was the only reason I was able to do it, I think.

Yeah, that was the only reason. Okay. Okay. Auburn. You also could have Auburn. You also, the great thing about us podcasting last week is when we finish podcasting, I definitely put up. everything organized.

And tonight was so easy to set out. So easy. You used your system that you always use. It went off without a hitch. And I was on two podcasts last week. But I was on them Stronger for Life. Go check that one out. Yomen.

That's Y-E-O-M-A-N podcast. They're both out. I was on both those. They were at times where I did them for my warehouse. I did bring my second. second mic over there, but I didn't have like, you know, the lights, a good camera, podcast. People, Jordy's like, you just need a good mic. And I'm like, look at the clips people are making. I'm like, no, you definitely need a good camera. You guys are idiots. But, sorry, Jordy, in any event,

I came in here tonight at like 745. And I was like, oh, my goodness, I left the gym in such a hurry. There's like cables everywhere. But here we are. Went off without a hitch. All right, we're not going to hit two hours. We're at 155. Okay. So any more save rounds, Jeff? Round's complete. Shout out.

Trey, bring this thing down for a loving. So good use of splash. Oh, sure. Bring it out for landing. Splash on my bed. What episode, 097? Look at you paying attention in the slash. channel.

Coming up on 100. Episode 097 of the Okay. Okay. Podcast. I'd like to thank our guest, Troy. No last name. Kind of like Cher.

It's just. Campbell. Like the soup. Campbell. That's it. Troy. Senior. Good guy.

Good guy. Better at alignment. Mindment work. Very true. We've always said that. But no. Great conversation. Really enjoyed having them on.

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