The Overshare with Gemma Atkinson - ARE YOU UNCONVENTIONAL?: The Stuff That Makes You Different.
Episode Date: November 23, 2023What is it about you that makes you and your life a little bit different to others? We asked and you delivered… from home tutoring, to a couple of mums ditching their other halves for each other, to... the shock the guests to one Wedding got… it all features, as we speak to those who go against the norm.In this episode we use a different voice for Melanie's story.
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Thank you, thank you for joining us and thank you for taking the time to download our little
podcast. Welcome to The Overshare, I'm Gemma Atkinson. This of course is our safe haven
of oversharing where we all come together to talk about the stuff that's often brushed
under the carpet. Well not here it's not. It's very much on the carpet.
And this Overshare may leave a lot of us a tad gobsmacked.
It is, what's a bit unconventional about you?
Now, we ask for your stories, as always, and we ask, what is it that often surprises people about you and your life?
And as always, you delivered. You never let us down. I love it.
We always say this, right?
It's not for young ears.
So if you're with any young people,
please put them away.
Not just because there might be
some fruity words in there,
but because sometimes the topics
may be tricky to explain.
Coming up on this episode.
When my partner proposed to me
and we decided to get married,
I said that I wanted a coffin at my wedding.
Me and my husband haven't shared a bed for 12 years. I can hear my husband snoring through
our walls like it's that bad and it's like calling the boats in or something it's like it's horrific.
Get everything you're never coming back we'll deal with it and we started homeschooling my son i
said we've we've got dogs he's like okay i said and they do come upstairs and they do sleep in
bed and he went oh for fuck's sake he literally he was he was he wasn't really like into it
abby's back with us are you all right abby yeah i'm good thank you well actually i feel a bit sick
you do feel a bit fabulous she said i feel a bit sick, don't you?
She said off-air, she said, I feel a bit sick today.
It's the lack of sleep.
We've got us some water, though. We'll get you some peppermint tea. I've got water, tea, yeah.
Right, with Abby and us and you guys,
let's delve into the unconventional world of this episode's guests.
Welcome to The Overshare, Katie. welcome to the overshare katie now we have to say we had a lot of stories about people in their unconventional lives but yours stood out so so much to us yours is one of a kind tell us a bit
about what's unconventional about you and take us back to your wedding day. So when my partner proposed to me and we decided to get married, I said that I wanted a coffin at my wedding.
I am a funeral director as my day job.
And I came into that after my daughter passed away in 2016 at one week old because I had a really bad experience with the funeral directors that I used.
So that led me into being a funeral director today.
I even thought about being carried in the coffin down the aisle at one point.
Oh my gosh!
But then I realised you wouldn't be able to see my dress as I walked down the aisle,
so that wasn't really a good idea.
That was the only thing putting you off.
Yeah.
I decided to have the coffin as my table to sign the registrar's certificates on.
And then later in the evening, we moved the coffin,
and it was then my cake stand as well.
So, yeah, that's what's, I suppose, unconventional about me.
I don't think many people would have had a coffin at their wedding before.
No.
And I know it's not seen as the norm and people were a bit taken back, shall I say, by it.
But I felt like that was adding a part of me into my wedding, which it should be.
I mean, obviously, you're a funeral director because you had a horrible experience. I think that's wonderful, by the way,
that you've turned an experience
that you personally didn't enjoy
to help so many other people in your situation
who can enjoy it.
Because I've been to many funerals
and we've come away and said,
what a lovely service that was.
And on the occasion, we've come away and said,
oh, it was okay, but it was, you know,
it could have been a bit nicer.
So obviously you're helping a lot of people
because of your experience, which is great.
With the coffin, where is it now?
Did you rent it for the day?
Did you take it back to work?
What have you done with it?
No, so I actually got gifted the coffin
by my friend who's a funeral director as well.
Now I've still got this coffin,
but it's now in my front room.
So at the end of the evening on on our wedding day um there's actually a photograph of me and my husband carrying this
coffin out and putting it into the back of my car on the after the wedding had finished and we then
took it home the next day and I put it up on show in my living room. Oh my gosh and what do people think
about you when they come round? There's a lot of mixed feelings. There's been people that don't
like to come to my house anymore. Because it frightens them? They don't yet they say it gives
them a weird feeling and then there's other people like my friends who are kind of more open and just find it funny
and think that's just me.
They always say,
we wouldn't have thought anything less of you to do that.
So many people are afraid not to talk about it.
They're afraid of it actually happening
and it's inevitable, isn't it?
People do not like talking about it.
The only thing I'm frightened of now since becoming a mum is I'm frightened of it now since becoming a mum
is I'm frightened of what you what I'll leave behind that's that's my fear of it like I I want
to die now a really really old lady so that I know my kids and grandkids are okay before before I go
like the thought of my kids not having the mum or dad around petrifies me. Yeah. But the thought of me actually,
it's not the thought of me dying,
it's the thought of when I die.
Like I want it to be way, way, way off.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because when my mum was diagnosed with cancer,
one of the first things she thought was,
what about my children?
Yeah, you would.
And my Abbey's not settled yet.
She said that to the neighbour.
And I was like, as if she's thinking about me.
You do.
But it must be like a very natural instinct for a mother
to think, what about my kids?
Every time I go on a car journey,
I think, please God, get me home
because I need to be back for my kids.
Because I never used to think like that.
The older generation especially
typically seem to find they will shy away from it.
So like my mother-in-law is somebody
who really doesn't like the fact
I've got a coffin in the house
or was having a coffin at my wedding.
One of my aunties said she wasn't going to come to the wedding
if there was a coffin there.
Oh, really? Is that serious?
I was just like, oh, that's fine.
It's one less mouth to feed.
It's a bit drastic and unfair, really, that, isn't it, Abib,
to not want to go to a wedding
because of something the bride has
chose I mean it's the bride's day yeah I've always seen things like that but me perhaps
you know trying to look at it from the guest's perspective like maybe it was a very triggering
thing for her and I think it's important that when we judge someone you stop yourself catch
yourself and say okay let me just put myself into their shoes and seek to understand the other
person and I think perhaps the guests could have done that a little bit more.
Being a funeral director, do you have many,
obviously what we'd call strange or unconventional,
requests from families?
My day job is to make someone's funeral exactly how they want it.
But yeah, I've had a lot of strange requests.
I've had a family make me dance to the grave with them.
But I like that.
Do the conga.
Yeah, but honestly, they had me dancing through the cemetery,
arms in arms with them,
because they referred to their mum who'd passed away as their dancing queen.
So, you know, so that was fitting for her.
It's funny you say about people not wanting to talk about it. I already know at my funeral,
I've told all my mates, I don't want any of them to wear black. I want everyone to just wear colour
because I've always said it's a celebration of the life I've had. I'm going to ask the coffin,
is it for you and your, or your husband when that time comes?
That is the plan yes um and that
was also mentioned in the ceremony at our wedding she said everyone can see today that katie's brought
a coffin with her that is for lee when the time comes at least my husband so um yes, I have always said and kind of joked a little bit about it, that it is for my husband when he dies or for me, depending who goes first, because we'll both fit in it.
And I've also said that we can check every year that we still fit in it by getting in it every year just to make sure.
It still fits.
If we're too big, then we know we need to lose weight then.
We shrink when we get older.
So you might be able to go on it like Tetris.
You could both fit in it
because if you both shrink when you're older.
But yeah, that was the thought process behind it is
what better way to go on your funeral
to be in a coffin that was at your wedding.
Well, thank you so much for sharing that, Katie.
It's very unconventional,
but I bet there will be people listening thinking,
I don't know, I kind of get it.
And, you know, death is a part of life.
The marriage till death do us part.
Each day is about you.
So it does kind of all fit in
in a kind of unconventional way.
Why conform to the norm?
Absolutely.
Oh, Katie, thank you so much.
I know you're busy.
So thank you for taking the time out.
No, you're very welcome. Thank you. It's my pleasure.
So we also have loads of messages and voice notes here on the Overshare as well.
We do try and squeeze as many in as possible so this is melanie who messaged hi jemma um here's what's slightly unconventional about me i split up from my husband
a few years ago and moved in with my best friend who'd also recently split from her husband the
kids stayed with my husband so there was just the two of us um we share the house we share the bills and we spend our free
time together it's all working well we're happy and there's no man drama i mean is it a bad thing
living with your mate i don't think it's too bad is it i think it's just very very different i think
when something's different people are going to question it it's kind of not the worst idea
because if you think about how expensive it is to live as a single person nowadays,
but I'd be thinking what happens for the two of them,
whether I've had a conversation about
what happens if you get into a new relationship
or someone else comes along,
that could throw the whole situation off.
I guess it's what works for everybody ultimately.
I'm trying to think if I live with one of my best mates,
we'd have a
whale of a time but I don't think long term it could work I'm not and I don't know why it's like
a flatmate isn't it but yeah I think it really depends and it's like it's individual and that
that's the thing is I think a lot of the time we judge people but if they're happy if it works for
them then who are we to judge it yeah And it's obviously better than being married because, you know, the marriage didn't work.
Well, yeah. And actually, unmarried childless women are the happiest subgroup of the entire
population.
Really?
Yeah. So, and women don't need marriage or relationships quite as much as men do. And
that might sound really sexist, but that's what research indicates so whilst men who are
married will have better physical and mental health it's not necessarily the case for women
I do get that I genuinely do you know because I think from I think sometimes women are more
independent than than men within a marriage I think all men like to be needed and wanted the it's a nice
feeling isn't it to know that someone relies on you someone depends on you someone wants you
whereas i think maybe i'm just speaking about me in my case we will get married but it won't
change how i feel for him i love him so much anyway whereas he sees it i'm gonna love her
so much more and i think how
how can you love me more do you know what i mean nothing's going to change other than we'll have
the same name but it's so much more significant for him yeah it must hold like more of a weight
in his mind than it does for you yeah you know you're very committed yeah is he like interested
in the whole like wedding part is it does he enjoy a party or any of that he'd go to a registry office
tomorrow and do it he absolutely just says i would love the fact that we've all got the same name
yeah but it's a family unit whereas i see the fact that we've had two babies is more of a commitment
than just me having his name on the end of i mean i always say to him if you want i can just put your
name on the end of it anyway it doesn't have to be no one needs to know it's not real marriage
you know what i mean and he's like no i want to know it's not real marriage. Do you know what I mean?
And he's like, no, I want to do it.
But again, it's that whole,
maybe it's a security for guys as well.
Maybe they just love the whole,
it's secure, it's safe.
But can I ask you,
obviously you said men are more mentally happy,
apparently in marriages.
Why do so many of them have affairs?
Because is it not statistically, i'm to throw them under
the bus producer matt i know you're a guy but statistically they men have more affairs and it's
not all of us no but it's just loads of women have affairs as well i'm not you know women we're not
innocent at all but if you counted it up on paper it's more men than women but if you put it on
paper more men are happy in marriages so what's what's wrong with them what you're doing having
the cake and eating it yes you're having your wedding cake and eating it tell us why why do
we do this why why do men do that what's wrong with us well it depends obviously it depends on
the man um sometimes so there's a difference between men and women and in fairs as well
obviously we're talking generally.
It's not always.
Women are more likely to have an affair if they're thinking of actually partner swapping.
So it's more of a mental connection as well.
Yeah, whereas men are more likely to have an affair even if they're happy.
I'm not saying that all happy men have affairs,
but they might have an affair even if they're happy in their relationship.
So it could be that they're not being fulfilled in some way in that relationship or it could just be that they're having the cake
and eating it it can just be that so for for us for women it's like yeah they're thinking a jumping
ship in their eyes moving on to something better the grass is greener this man can give me what my
partner can't yeah whereas for a lot of guys it could just be do you know what my wife's not you
know giving me enough affection,
we're not being intimate, I'm going to go and get that elsewhere,
but I love everything else about my marriage,
apart from that one aspect.
Or this other girl's giving me more attention,
as in making me feel better about myself when we talk,
so I'm going for that.
It's like, so that's why, Matt.
That's why.
So I'm so sorry.
I'm in love with all men, Matt, sorry. There also, like... On behalf of all men, Matt, sorry.
There are, of course, plenty of women that have an affair too.
It's closer than you realise.
It's not...
There's not such a huge discrepancy between men and women.
And I would imagine that when it comes to, like,
surveying people and researching it
and, you know, being asked that question,
a lot of people will lie.
And I would predict that women would be more inclined to lie than men
because I feel like it's more socially acceptable to have an affair if you're a man like we almost have higher standards
for women it's like why why is that I know we do have higher standards but I mean I'm I'm forever
telling Gawker I fancy people so much like not not like I mean I mean, not like with people who I work with,
but like Tom Hardy, I'll say it.
I think Tom Hardy's gorgeous.
Yeah, you bring him up quite a lot.
I do.
And he's my mental affair.
And that's not going to stop because I'm partnered and I've got children.
It doesn't mean I'm going to go and act on it.
Do you know what I mean?
But I say to go, because there must be some women who you fancy.
He goes, no, no.
And I think you're so lying
Eva Mendes
look at her
she's stunning
he goes
yeah yeah
she's okay
and I'm like
what's wrong with it
Matt
you must fancy
Michelle Pfeiffer
you must fancy her
not interesting
what about Margot Robbie
no
see he's the same as Gorka
he's Catherine or nobody
and I don't believe that
there's a difference
seeing someone and thinking,
oh, they're attractive
and then jumping into bed with them.
There's a massive difference in that.
Because he knows next year
Margot Robbie's in Strictly.
Imagine he says Margot Robbie
then he gets partnered
with her on Strictly.
Emma, thank you so much for joining us on The Overshare.
Now, your unconventional thing about you,
it comes down to homeschooling, doesn't it? On behalf of most parents who were so relieved after lockdown
to get the kids back in school, you've done the opposite.
What are you thinking? What's happened?
So when we decided to do it wasn't the plan it wasn't something that had just that we'd been researching or anything
like that it was a spontaneous withdrawal of only one child so our eldest our son um he'd survived
all the way through lockdown and learning at home and he'd surprisingly
even become more sociable because he was actually wanting to socialize rather than being forced to
socialize and so there was that element there was failings on the school part as well that were just
not being fixed and I literally turned up on Wednesday and said
get everything you're never coming back we'll deal with it and we dealt with it so we removed
my youngest child my daughter and put her in a different school because she was happier in school
and we started homeschooling my son and how old is your son so he he's 13 now and my daughter's 11. He was in year five when we removed him.
We're very child led.
We don't simulate school at home.
It's more 50-50 academic life skills balance.
So anything that they're interested in at the time,
my son was really, really interested in Titanic for a long period of time.
So it was writing, it was researching, teaching him how to do his own research we actually flew over to Belfast and
took him to the museum and you know to see everything we've created like an area in the
garden where we grow veg and that was a big topic for quite a while you know watching them plant it
grow it look after it eat it cook it so two down the line, we also brought my daughter out when she
was exactly the same age as my son as well. So they're both at home for the time being.
My daughter's going to high school next September. And that was something that we all decided
together and just going to give it a try. Do you work as well, Emma? Do you juggle work as well?
I do. Me and dad both work. I work part time.
And that was a main factor as well, because during the lockdown, we were able to work from home in my company.
So now I sacrifice a day, a weekend to go into the office and do my two days at home during the week.
So and then dad has kids at the weekend and, you know, and we just we just manage it.
It's organised chaos, but it works for us I assume that some people would be like oh my good god this is terrible you
shouldn't homeschool what kind of reactions have you had and how do you manage like other people's
opinions I think nobody can have an opinion on somebody else's family unless you are living in that
household on the whole the whole family and friends know my son and knew right away that
it was the right thing for him they started changing him straight away he was happier
he was you know like I said before he was more sociable which was so strange everyone's like
how do you socialize children that aren't around other children and he chose who he wanted to be we didn't want to be with these people in the classroom
um we've had when we go out and you know children are normally in school like oh you're off school
today you know just random people walk up to you and and start asking questions why are you off
school and you know when we've spoken to most people they say oh that's great that's amazing
well done you how do you do it kind of On the whole, everyone's just been really, really supportive.
And what happens with like, you know, with milestones?
Like, well, does the school send you like exam papers or things they have to, do you get anything like that?
No.
No, you don't have to follow a curriculum.
You just have to prove that you're providing an adequate um you know education
but we we follow things because my children were in school they know the structure of school
there's other homeschooling families that don't have anything to do with you know table-based work
or you know essays and things like that like we do but they know that and they they learn quite
well with that so we
use resources like twinkle bbc bite size we always say there's a there's a little machine in the
corner of your room in most houses nowadays if you don't know how to spell something or you don't
know how to do something it's there it can help you and these are where we found technology really
helpful instagram has been absolutely amazing because I've just followed hundreds of other homeschooling
families and not one of them is the same we're all different we all do it differently we all do
what works for us but I think a lot more people would do it if they knew more about it what do
their friends and think of it have they got like because obviously I'm still good my best friend in
actually primary school is still one good my best friend in actually primary
school is still one of my best friends now we kind of had the experience of growing up together
do they still see the kind of best mates and the friends okay with it they do yeah and they
my daughter's had she's just got a phone um which we do monitor um but just like to keep in touch
with you know these close friends on whatsapp and she said oh are you going to high school where are you going we've applied for the same one and you know and
this and the other and my son whose best friend was at the school that we were doing from he still
comes and we still see him and we still talk and things like that so they are sociable these other
homes there's 500 people in our borough that are homeschooling at the moment so there's groups
during the week at libraries there's meets in Costa for mums there is things also set up in
local colleges for them to do sports days I said to producer Matt I can't say it's easy because
it's not I'd be lying if I said it was dead easy everybody should do it because everyone's
circumstances are different I always think of if you're a solo parent, it would be really difficult.
Emma, thank you so much for joining us.
You've kind of, I've learned a little bit as well.
It's a lot to think about.
So thank you for sharing, oversharing.
And yeah, good luck with it all.
Thank you.
So now we knew when we were asking for stories on what's a bit unconventional about you we would get a lot of people telling us they sleep in separate bedrooms literally we got so
many emily messaged and said we've been sleeping in separate beds ever since they messed up our
new bed order and delivered two single beds as opposed to the double that we'd ordered we're both in our late 50s and before sending them back
we looked at each other and thought why not it's not as if anything else happens these days apart
from a good book anyway several times he's questioned if i really meant to order two
singles she said i didn't but it's worked out so well so that's kind of an accidental you know
separate room and it works I guess when you try something and you think oh this is actually nice
you just kind of go along with it yeah I tried it once with my partner not tried it because he
works different hours right um and he started to just sleep in the spare bedroom I hated it
really yeah I really missed him.
I felt lonelier.
I think for me, like the benefits of him being there
outweigh the costs.
So I like him being there.
But everyone's different.
Yeah.
And what works for one couple
might not work for the next couple.
Did your partner feel the same?
Did he prefer, does he prefer sleeping?
I reckon he prefers to sleep on his own.
Actually, I actually genuinely think so. And actually, 51.4% of Brits, did your partner feel the same did he prefer does he prefer sleeping no I reckon he prefers to sleep on his own actually
I actually genuinely think so
really
and actually
51.4% of Brits
apparently prefer
to sleep alone
so a slight majority
but would you not miss Gawker
like in the morning
not if I know
it's only in the next room
I get quite hot
and I don't like being spooned
or anything like that
it's not just Gawker
it's any partner
I'm more than happy to
have me cuddles,
me intimacy, whatever,
and then say, right, you go sleep and I'll go this way.
We also had a message from Claire
and she says, hi Gemma,
if anyone can relate to this, it's you.
Oh gosh, I'm worried now.
It says, our dog was poorly a year ago
and just wanted to be near me.
So my husband moved into the spare room
so Tex could sleep with
me I've never slept so well in my life she said the thing is Tex made a recovery within a few weeks
but he's not yet moved out of our bed and my hubby's not moved back in
I do relate to this we have uh two dogs now they can't get on the bed because they're too old. So they sleep next to my side of the bed
between the cot and me.
But when Gorka first moved up
and first came to my house,
I said, we've got dogs.
He's like, okay.
I said, and they do come upstairs.
He's like, what?
I said, yeah, and they do sleep in bed.
And he went, oh, for fuck's sake.
He literally, he was, he wasn't really like into it.
But within literally, I'd say two, three days,
he was loving it.
Even in the morning now, because they're not on the bed,
as soon as I kind of like move or make a noise,
I just hear this.
And it's Norman's tail going.
He bangs his tail against the bed.
It's because he knows I'm up.
He's like, yes, she's up.
Come on.
And that makes me feel happy.
It really does.
Tell us what's a bit unconventional about you, Rach.
Tell us your story.
Well, me and my husband haven't shared a bed for 12 years.
It basically, great.
It started when we we had my our son he just all of a sudden just started snoring and and it's not just like you know you can deal with it snoring it is
next level snoring your husband not your son yeah okay yeah my my son's quite good at it to be fair
he definitely takes after his dad and it just got to the point where I was like I I'm savage do you just need to go my son was an awful sleeper so he was up all
night and then my son my husband's sleeping next to me sleeping soundly by the way not oh yeah they
sleep through it yeah so I sent him up to our office at the time which had like a sofa bed
and it was like the world's thinnest mattress, but he would sleep on that every night.
And it kind of just went on for years and years and years.
And then we moved house.
And when we were looking at houses,
I was like, we need a minimum of four bedrooms
because I need my own room.
I bet that's quite common for a lot of couples though,
isn't it, Abby?
Because it doesn't mean you don't love them or anything.
I mean, it's just nice to, I guess, have your own space.
And if everyone sleeps better in the house,
everyone's in such a better mood the next day.
I think it's like one in four couples don't share a bed.
Oh, one in four.
There you go, Rach.
One in four couples.
And like 48% of people, it's because of the snoring.
So you're not alone in that.
I'm going to talk to me. Can I ask, what happens with intimacy and stuff? 48% of people, it's because of the snoring. So you're not alone in that.
Can I ask, what happens with intimacy and stuff?
Do you choose to say, come in my room?
But it's quite exciting, actually.
But it is exciting sneaking back to your room after.
No, because he's like, yeah, see you later then, thanks.
We've got our main bedroom, he's in,
that's got our TV and we'll go to bed together and we watch tv or whatever and then that's when the magic happens yeah and I'm like right I'm
gonna bed now there's a few school mums that I know when we've spoken on the school run and
they sleep in separate beds because their son or daughter wants to get in bed with them
and it's just when you're when you're so. I mean, I've been really strict with not having Mia in our bed,
but there's been the occasion where you're so exhausted.
Since Tiago's come along, it's like you say, that newborn phase,
you're just savage with sleep.
Like, it's horrendous.
And I've gone, right, just get in,
because it's anything for an easy life.
And I can see how easy it'd be to get into that pattern.
So I've had to say no,
but I do sleep better when I'm alone in the bed when Gorka's on tour I have a better night's sleep
yeah um yes and he works um night not nights but he um he's a DJ so he doesn't get in sometimes
so like two three in the morning when it was like back in the day it was just and we would share a
bed or our son would be in our room.
It just didn't work because he'd get in
late at night, early in the morning.
It would just disturb us both.
So then being in separate beds,
it kind of just worked for us as well.
Our spare room is only for if we've had a row,
you know, and us.
You can sleep in there tonight.
But I guess if you guys have a row,
it don't matter.
No, it doesn't because I don't even say goodnight
so I just go out to my room. Just slam just slam your door yeah walk down the corridor that's it
has your son asked you why you're in separate rooms at all does he not
no do you know what he hasn't he's never asked he knows he knows that his dad snores because
whenever we go away it'll be like mum dad's keeping me awake with dad snoring so I think
he's just I think because it's always so i think he's just i think because
it's always been that way he's just so used to it he's never questioned it my mum found my dad
snoring soothing there's nothing soothing about my dad snoring but she's like i like lying there
listening to him snore oh like a white noise almost yeah i can hear my husband snoring through
our walls yeah like it's that bad and it's like calling the boats in or something.
It's horrific.
If he was to get his snoring addressed,
because there must be something like you can,
I don't know,
if there was something you could do for his snoring,
would you share a bed with him?
Is it just that?
Or are you too used to it now?
He's gone to the doctors
and they said it's cosmetic,
so it would have to be private.
So it would cost thousands of pounds to do it.
And I was like, well, and there's no guarantee that it will work.
So you're kind of like, we're happy sharing separate beds.
Yeah.
You know, he goes to bed, watches his fishing shows
and I go to bed watching reels.
There are cons to it though.
And it's interesting that you said you sleep better
when Gorka's not in the bed i'd
say that i slept better but apparently you don't sleep better separately and that we've evolved to
sleep co-sleep so sleep with other people around and this is great because it produces oxytocin
which is our bonding hormone so if you're sleeping separate from your partner it's important to still
make sure that you're getting that oxytocin hit.
So sharing time together where you're laughing,
making sure you're still having sex,
making sure there's still physical contact.
Because obviously if you don't go to bed together,
that sort of stuff can like not happen.
Also, oxytocin is meant to help you to sleep
and have better quality sleep.
So technically,
you should sleep better with someone else there.
But it's the spooning I don't like. I don't mind mind being in the bed i don't like being touched when i'm sleeping
yeah i've been touched in the morning you know like a cuddle in the morning but like it's like
and a cuddle before bed and i think some of the best conversations that i have with my partner
is just before we go to sleep you know when you're in that there's like a strange headspace that you
go into when you're nearly asleep and you could just be chatting to somebody i find that really soothing and enjoyable see most nights i go into
our room and go because sat upright with his laptop on watching spanish telly with his headphones on
and i'm like okay this is the level we've got to um but no he he's a cuddler he likes to
you know cuddle me and spoon me whereas i get get hot and I'm like, oh, come on.
Yeah, I'm like that.
You've finished now, move over.
I'm like, I'm clammy, get off me.
Yeah, it's not good.
It's me, you don't know.
Anyway, thank you so much for joining us, Rach.
And thank you for oversharing.
Lovely to meet you.
Thank you very much for having me.
And you.
See you later.
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We've done it, guys!
We've done it.
See you on the next one.
Thank you to all our experts who've appeared with us.
Abby as well, thank you to you.
Seven out of the ten.
Are you going to come back for series two?
Is that her rating?
I actually reckon I probably am about a seven out of ten.
Abi, you'll hopefully be back with series two.
And a huge thank you if you've messaged, emailed, tweeted,
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You've made it what it is.
Cannot thank you enough for opening up, letting us in and and oversharing we'll see you next time for series two
oh that was fab