The Overshare with Gemma Atkinson - BETTER BODY CONFIDENCE: Gemma's Secret Weapon

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

What does it take to turn your life around? In this episode we shine a light on stories of incredible transformations in fitness and health and celebrate those who pushed their bodies to the limit and emerged stronger.  Fitness expert Javeno McClean is here to help us learn to accept who we truly are, flaws and all! This episode will leave you feeling moved, empowered and inspired and hopefully on the route to Better Body Confidence.

welcome back to the overshare i hope you were hope you're all well if you are new to this then you're really in for a treat because i think it's a very unique little thing that we have created here this time we're talking better body confidence, which you know is something I'm very, very passionate about. It's also something that I still get such a reaction from if I post a training video on Instagram, the questions and stories I get from people who are struggling. So we ask for your stories on better body confidence, your journeys, your wellness journeys, your fitness journeys, your sacrifices, the reasons why you turned your life around.

And with me on this episode, none other, we couldn't have anyone else for this episode, the wonderful Jovino McLean is here, new face to our little pod. Thank you for coming in, Jovino. Tell us what it is you do, first of all. Firstly, thank you for having me. This is lovely and cosy. I'm the top exercise specialist in the world

For the disabled and the disadvantaged And giving people an opportunity To be great I've trained disabled people and disadvantaged people For 23 years for free Never took a penny off anybody And what made you want to do that? Love, care, it makes no sense

Javino's advice and help as well I just hope so many people well it will help so many people so settle down get yourself a brew and let's do our Overshare episode on better body confidence. If you don't do something when you leave here he said you won't be back here he said you will be in a hospital. There's no comparison when it comes to strength of a man v woman. You guys have got us beat hands down. It was my parents actually that sort of laughed in my face and said you'll never do that, you're too fat to run.

Looking back now I feel like I've wasted so many years of how I am now. A superwoman with quads from the heavens. Life's there to embrace. You live once, just embrace it. Sarah, you're speaking on behalf of loads and loads of people who contacted us. They got in touch telling us they turned their lives around because of a negative situation that started and you spun it into a positive. Tell us about your story. I went through a divorce from my husband who I'd been married to for 16 years. We'd been together for 20.

I'd got two teenage children at the time. I sort of saw an advert for my local running club in 2018 and it was literally a two-minute walk from my house. So it was a couch to 5K programme. So I put my name forward and I thought, right, I'm going to go. I'm going to go and join that club and I'm going to run 5K. Did you do your 5K?

I did. It was more through determination because being told I was currently four stone heavier than what I was now. Right. It was my parents actually that sort of laughed in my face and said, you'll never do that. You're too fat to run. You're literally too fat to run. Wow. So I joined.

I went along. And I thought, you know what? I'm going to, mom, dad, I'm going to prove you wrong. I'm going to do it. Even if I just run the 5K and give up, I'm still going to prove to myself and the negativity that I can do it. That situation there is so common. Sarah, I see that situation in my, in my facility every single week

and it's, a lot, a lot of the times it's, it's women. I think there's bravery needed to stand by yourself.

Do you know what I mean? And what you did there by saying, you know what, I'm going to do it. I don't care what anybody else thinks, I'm going to do it for me.

There's so many women I speak to, they get punished for putting their health as priority. So I've got, there's a lady in my gym at the moment, I'm not going to do it for me. There's so many women I speak to, they get punished for putting their health as priority. So I've got, there's a lady in my gym at the moment, I'm not going to name her. She's lost five stone in a year. She's absolutely tremendous.

She's been, she first started coming to the gym and she used to hide. She used to come with a friend and then now she's at the point where the friend that she came with, she doesn't even come with her now, she comes every day. The habit that she's now took on and she's embraced,

that will stay with her forever. That will keep on giving her so many benefits in life. My question for you when you was talking, Cez, is what's next for you, girl? What have you got planning next? What are you going to do? A marathon, a mountain climb? What are you doing?

So I completed the Carriage to 5k in March um 2018 and by April 2019 I was running the London marathon so I've ran the London marathon twice I've done two virtual London marathons I've ran Paris marathon Manchester marathon and Loch Ness marathon and i'm running rome marathon in march this year with my daughter because through lockdown my daughter took up running that must feel amazing yeah we completed our manchester marathon last year together it was her first marathon and i was so honored that she asked me if i'd train with her and run with her and we ran from start to finish and it was the best marathon I've ever ran because we ran it together.

You can see your face just lighting up when you talk about it. Do you know what you've done there, Sarah? You've done something that's so powerful. You sound like an amazing woman and an amazing mum anyway, but that inclusion of saying to your daughter to do that with you, that's something that nobody will ever take away from you

and that will last forever, I'm telling you. With my daughter, I find they don't do what you say they do what you do yes and you know if i say to her you're their role model yeah and and the fact that you're you're doing something that's so beneficial to her well-being as well confidence especially in young girls you know especially when they go through the the hormone changes and the hips widen and the shoulders go broader you know the high school phase it's a difficult time and if you have a strong role model at home as in a mum who says listen i did this i can do that you can do it as well i think it's a great thing to have in life if you have a strong male or female support at home

are you confident so i wasn't like obviously going through a divorce and you sort of that black hole comes along and you sort of go down it a little bit but i'm actually i've come out the other end i feel really confident i'm confident in myself i'm confident in the way i look the way i train i mean i'm at the gym i've got a pt life's there to embrace you live once just embrace it definitely that's true what's your situation

as regards to if you've had to find your confidence again yeah for me now I have to always remind myself that I have this little person

watching me so if I'm you know feeling insecure or embarrassed about something I think get your shit together

Gemma because this is going to all go on to Mia and Tio. And I don't want them growing up thinking they can't accomplish something because I was too frightened to do it. I think your story is wonderful. I love how you turned a negative to a positive. I think it's amazing that you've inspired a future generation in your family. Definitely.

Can I ask, has your ex-husband seen you? So he's remarried. We still all go out. We still go out as a combined unit for the children. So we still get on. It wasn't a bad breakup. Yeah, and he does say, gosh, you look amazing. You look great.

You know, when we ran the Manchester Marathon, he came to support us both. Oh, that's where I... We weren't fit when we were together. I mean, I am 53 and I think I'm the fittest I've ever been in my whole life at the moment. That's the thing. It's never too late to change your habits and to change your life

and to prioritise your wellbeing. You've got a beautiful spirit and keep this in. Oh, thank you. Don't change it. Best of luck, Sarah. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Take care.

Do you find with your clients, a lot of them come to you because they've previously been through a bad situation like divorce or bullying or whatever? It gets me furious in the gym when somebody comes in. I want to get in shape now because I broke up with my boyfriend. I want to be getting in shape now because I broke up with my girlfriend. And I go. So when you was with your girlfriend, you give up on yourself.

You didn't train. You started eating crap and you put on all this weight and you didn't take care of yourself. You got yourself into a certain state. Now you broke up with your missus, you want to get that back. I'm thinking, why are you not doing that when you was with her?

Why are you not doing that when you was with him? And it's not a light. So people use health and fitness like a bit of a switch, pick and choose when you want to switch it on. It should always be on. So your health and priority and your wellbeing should be,

that should be embedded in you, just like food and sleep because whatever else happens in your life... Yeah, it should be like cleaning your teeth. You do it every day. Prioritise yourself for a little bit every day. Is that health and fitness? Is it what's going to get you out of that hole?

If you do break up with your boyfriend or your girlfriend or whatever. And I always find it a bit strange when I always hear that. It gets me a bit mad, to be honest. leanne i believe you became an amputee at age nine is that right so i was born with spina bifida which left me with very little sensation in my right side i developed an ulcer on the ball of my foot i had a couple of skin grafts to try and make it you know correct it um because it went quite far into the foot but in the end they they broke down and they um found that it was actually the bone that was infected so they gave me an option of I could have the bone in my foot removed but that would mean I'd have to wear like a

shoe with a step which didn't really go down well or I could you know have it amputated and I think after so many months and months of in and out of hospital my mum said we left the hospital to go and make a decision and we hadn't even got to the car before I said, I just want it taken away. I just want it, you know, amputated. So, yeah, kind of went home, had a chat about it, but, yeah, made the ultimate decision to have it taken off. That is a brave, I mean, a horrendous decision to have to make, but such a brave one that you just said, I've had enough, just I want it gone. Yeah, I think because it was so you know it was different to my

other leg and obviously I was different to the other children I just thought if I got rid of this foot now it would you know I would probably fit in a little bit better and I'd have less problems sadly that wasn't the case um going through school I developed more infections. I had revision surgery. And then at 18, the bone had become infected again, just after many, many more infections. And that's when I became an above knee amputee then at 18, which felt like really the first time it was happening all over again. And how was, I mean, your experience of school? My foot would turn out. So the first name I was called was Squintfoot because, you know, it didn't walk in line with the other one.

I mean, I can laugh about it now, but obviously at the time it was pretty horrific. And I think as well it didn't help that I missed so much as well so I wasn't always there you know when the good things were happening because I was unwell so to try and fit back into that skill life was hard at times. What was your mindset? I train a lot of people who are amputees one person he's a double amputee and he went on to be a Paralympian, this guy. He's got multiple world records, Paralympic sprinter in his wheelchair. But he said he wanted people to know

I can do everything that you can do. He felt like it empowered him. I want to show people that I can do everything else. I just wanted to fit in. I did just want to do the same as everybody else, but I found it difficult. When I was 18 and had it done, I kind of went in on myself. All those years I'd managed, I'd coped with trying to fit in, but I kind of had my own way of covering it. The things I wore,

I wouldn't never have my leg out on show looking back now I feel like I've wasted so many years of how I am now but at the time and I think as a child and a teen it's it's hard to realize you're in that situation and you're not happy with yourself and when I had to have it done at 18 you know I'm a young woman I want to I want to wear the heels and the dresses and the skirts that everybody else my age is wearing, but I just never had the confidence to do that. I wouldn't even go out to my car on the drive with no shoes and socks on in case somebody driving past would see my prosthetic foot. It was such a big fear. How did you go on with dating and stuff like that I never had much of an issue with that I mean I met my husband now when I was 17 so oh no right from the beginning he you know he knew we got

married and I had twin boys I think growth is such a beautiful thing yeah I've got a friend of mine who's a he's an amputee from above the knee. He plays basketball for Team GB. He's wonderful. But I remember speaking to him and he was just so embarrassed of his leg. And he said he got to a point, I'm not sure how old he was, where he just said, fuck it, this is me. My turning point was obviously getting my new, I got a new prosthetic six years ago.

It was the summer holidays. The boys were about to start high school and it didn't look you know it was it's mechanical now it's I've got a microprocessor knee and um you know it helps me do everything I can do it a lot more and a lot better and quicker without that fear of stumbling and falling but I brought it home and because it wasn't covered with the foam and it didn't look the shape it you know it looked it was a pole and it looked like the guys who've been in the military who aren't bothered about how it looks and you know will quite happily wear the shorts and I said to the staff I said I'm you know I'm really pleased with the leg I can't wait to

start you know doing everything I want to do with it. But can we put the foam cover on? And they said, well, no, because, you know, you're not going to get the benefit of the knee. So I brought it home and kind of cried myself to sleep. I thought, I can't, I can't wear that. There's no shade to it. How am I going to wear my skinny jeans, my leggings? There's just nothing to it. But the next morning I woke up and I thought no I've got

to do this I've got to do I've got to do this because my boys are about to start high school and I can't have them going through what I went through at school because their mum has one leg you know I did I needed to be proud of it so that they could be proud of me as well. Somebody said something to me this is one of the first ever amputees i trained said something to me that i always remember he went how come you've never asked me about my leg or what i can't do and i said i don't care what you can't do i only care what you can do i want to know tell me three things that you can do and i want to know two things that you want to do that you've not done yet oh that's interesting tell me three because because

the thing is reason why i'm asking a lot of people who don't know you're obviously a really strong woman you can tell by the way you speak and your presence and your energy you've been through what you've been through and this is where you are with people people will listen and think that someone's got an amputee they can't do this this, they can't do that. There's a list of things that people can't do, not realising they aren't going to do most things that we can do. So what can you do? So one of the biggest things for me was to be able to go into a gym and work out because a lot of my friends went to gyms

and you see everybody's gyming. So yeah, I can walk in a gym and I can work out, I can burpee like the rest of them, I can ride a bike which I didn't think I would do again and I can climb mountains we did the

three peaks, I didn't do the three peak challenge, not all in one weekend but we separated them out and did the three peaks for charity so yeah one weekend but we we separated them out and did the three peaks for charity so yeah so what do you want to do so so i want to know what do you want to you've not done yet because i know you want a challenge i can tell by the look in your eye that there's all this there's a challenge i can see challenge in there yeah you can see it poking out what do you want to do no one thing i've always wanted to do and i don't know why and um but run i can't run and i know a lot of that is you know to do with the technical side of it

you know i need i need a blade and sadly i'm not a private patient it's a cost that hopefully one day i'll get there if you ever if you come to Manchester, just please get my address and come down. I'd love to do a little session with you. Yeah, I will do. Thank you. I run a support group for amputees in Manchester as well. Oh, brilliant.

What's the name of that? The Limbless Association. So I'm now going into the centres in the Northwest and, you know, supporting people who obviously once felt like me and are on the beginning of

their journey so that's a brilliant note to end on that you're now helping others oh wonderful thank you so much to me girl have a lovely day thank you very much welcome to the overshare vicky i'm really excited about your story because I did something similar to you. It was for very different reasons, but I can relate to doing what you did. Tell us about your journey to better body confidence. What's your story, Vicky? So from as long as I can remember, I've had not a very good relationship with food and my body. I just always felt the chunky little kid. So I remember going to primary school and, you know,

even at that young age, watching what I was eating. And I remember wearing the same skirt I started to school in. I was about eight or nine and I was still in it. As I got to 15, I was really, really watching what I was eating and my parents were always trying to help and support me I remember my dad saying to me you know what if you don't start eating soon the way you need to your body needs he says it's going to shut down then I my mum actually took me to the doctors because she said look you've got to go yeah you know I'm really worried about you now fortunately Fortunately, he didn't make me step on

skateboards, but I think he could just see. And he just said to me, he said, well, looking at you, he says, if you don't do something when you leave here, he said, you won't be back here. He said, you will be in a hospital. So I left there thinking, I know I've got to do something. I always had a profound interest with the body, human body, how it works. I always grew up wanting to be in the medical field. So I kind of learned all I could on nutrition. So just going through all that has helped me know, you know, I can nourish my body and fuel it to look after it.

It's like, no, now I'm eating because this is what my body needs how do you break through that mental barrier in in like the case of vicky's case you know the mental issue with food how do you address that in my experience it's hard being a woman yeah it's hard being a woman but it's what what you nailed something before vicky she said you said relationship one of the main things that I drill into people is their relationship with food you need to be rock solid in that definition

some people's relationship with food is punishment they eat to punish themselves other people have got a relationship where they eat

to reward themselves like a dog yes a lot of people have got a relationship where they see food as love I know a couple

who gained nine stone together because their thing is food. So love is feeding you. I'm going to feed you your favourite meal. I'm going to take you out. So your relationship with food needs to be rock solid. And I think the problem is a lot of people, they don't know what the relationship with food is. My example is my relationship with food is, this morning I've eaten really good. I've eaten brown rice and three cans of sardines. I've had six boiled eggs. I don't like it. It's disgusting. I didn't enjoy it one bit, but that's what I needed for me today. But the other 20%,

like me and Gemma was talking about before, like I'm a dad. I love being a daddy. I love doing daddy stuff. On a Friday when we had pizza night, we went to see Mufasa the other 20%, like me and Gemma was talking about before, like I'm a dad. I love being a daddy. I love doing daddy stuff. On a Friday when we had pizza night, we went to see Mufasa the other day. I don't want to be... Great movie, by the way.

Best ever. But I don't want to be the dad that's taking my little boys to the cinema and going, no, we can't have popcorn. We can't have... No. I want them to enjoy the full cinema experience. So that 20% to me is everything.

That 20% to me is when I'm being a dad that we're going to have an ice cream we're going to have a milkshake if we go mac mackeys and I'm okay with that I'm asked a lot on my socials how many calories I eat a day and I never I mean it's it's a lot I eat a lot of food but I'm doing a lot of expenditure I'm walking I'm doing a lot of expenditure. I'm walking, I'm training. If you put someone who's five foot two, you worked in an office nine hours a day on the same calories as me, they would have completely different results because it's all dependent on the person.

And that's another thing. I think there's not enough awareness. Everyone assumes one size fits all. What's the main thing, Vicky? Do you know that with your story? I think it's fascinating. I think you're splendid i've generally do i think you're spending what you've been through and what you're doing now i want to know with you you thought you talked earlier to me and jam about the way you viewed yourself when you was younger and i get it

how do you view yourself physically i still have times when i'm like i look in the mirror and i'm just like what oh really i'm still got that little voice in my head but i do talk to myself and i'm you know i say i'm grateful my body works i'm well i'm healthy i'm fine as i am there's a thing that i do in the gym i call it pi it's perfectly imperfect to be perfect, it don't exist. People are so obsessed with trying to chase perfection. It crushes them and it's an impossible task to do. So I would say to people, you're perfectly imperfect. The way you are is exactly the way you were meant to be.

And I think once somebody fully embraces that you're perfectly imperfect, I love my little skinny legs. I've got one skinny calf right snap me achilles this calf now doesn't grow and i always get people who take the mick out me a little bit and go oh you're so big but you got a skinny leg i love my perfectly imperfect leg that's my little skinny leg that's mine leave it alone do you know what i mean yeah even though if you ain't perfect you're perfectly you does. Does that make sense? And I think you're perfectly you. It's a great way to look at things, Nan, to flip it.

And it's funny you say that because when I was pregnant with my daughter, Mia ended up being an emergency C-section. And you don't look at your scar for a good few days. They change the dressing, whatever. And the first time when I got home, because I was in hospital for a week, I came home, I remember peeling off the C-section bandage and standing in the mirror

and it was so swollen and so bruised. I was physically like started crying, thinking, oh my God, this is awful. This be caught on my body. Now I've had a second C-section, again, not an emergency emergency one but a necessity because tiago decided to poo inside me uh while i was trying to get him out and i now look at it as that's where my children gain their life my how capable was my body and the first time i looked

at it the shock and the upset i now feel a bit ashamed of that I viewed it that way when it did such an amazing wonderful thing there's no comparison when it comes to strength of a man v woman you guys have got us beat hands down any man in this building now we couldn't do it I'm telling you right now I wouldn't know where to start if oh my god I wouldn't know where to start you've had to rebuild your body two times to not just be the same, to be better. A man couldn't do that. And they think they can. They think because they can lift and they can scream in the gym

and wear tank tops and baby oil and shoulder veins and flex. They can't do what a woman do. And I think you guys have got us beat. And you know what? I bow my head. Thank you so much for coming on. Oh, thank you. Lovely for coming on oh thank you lovely speaking to you vicky

so do you know there'll be people listening now who will be thinking i'd love to get in the gym i would love to make better choices with food but the reality is i have a early start at work i have school runs i have pickups i'm a single mom or I'm a single dad. What would you say to the one change they can make? If time, I know everyone can make the time, it's about priorities, I get that. But what would the one bit of advice be from you to anyone wanting to make a difference but they're on a very, very busy schedule? There's time in the day, you choose not to. So as long as you can admit and take ownership of,

I can actually do more. Don't ever tell that you haven't got time. Time is a blessing that you have got. You choose not to use it. You can't negotiate with yourself. I'm at the point in my life, and I'm trying to teach people, it's non-negotiable.

An example being, I know at two o'clock I'm jumping on my treadmill, I'm going to do half an hour. It doesn't matter how tired I am you book it in like a meeting I'm booking it in like a meeting I'm not negotiating I'm not going to get to 2 o'clock

and go I'm not sure if I want my feelings are at the back of my mind I'm not negotiating with myself I'm doing it and I think with people when they're trying to change

or influence and make a good influence or change in their life, if you set yourself a target or goal or a task, it could be simple, I'm going to go for a walk, I'm going to get up a little bit early and do a bit of yoga, I'm going to stretch when I get home. When you book it in, it's an appointment.

It's non-negotiable, so despite how you feel, commit to that. Sorry, I don't know if you can see, we've got a little... She looks like a little rat, but she's a dog. I don't know if you can see Daisy on. She is, she's beautiful. I apologise if you hear any snoring at any point, because my dog is also next to me.

So, I'm really sorry. Do dogs snore? Yeah, of course they do. No, they don't. Yes, you want to get a bulldog. My dog does. Bulldogs snore like a tractordog my dog does bulldogs snow like a tractor my dog does

what I only found out I only found out last month that dogs because I've not got a dog MEC so I'm not a dog person

I've got a snake and I've got a birdie dragon wow yeah I'm a reptile man but my mate told me that dogs have periods did you know that yeah

a bitch does yeah yeah did not know that they have a season so a bitch does, yeah. Yeah. Did not know that. They have a season. So do snakes. No, they don't. They must do to have kids, to have baby snakes.

How would they have an egg then? Emma, Google if snakes have periods before we start. Right. That's good professional. Emma, thank you for joining us. I believe your story you had the same nickname as me at school is that right?

were you a thunder thighs as well? I was thunder thighs yeah thunders but mine was it was mates who called it me because I used to do a lot of I used to run for an athletics team so I always had big quads

and it was thunders and later on in life a friend of mine said I had legs like a car toss which I think he was trying to play pay me a compliment but I I said oh thank you thank you very much tell us about your story Emma so I distinctly remember being 11 in year six at primary school and a boy I can I'll full name him I won't but I could I remember him and he called me thunder thighs and other people laughed and it was the first time in my life where anyone had said anything negative about my body and all of a sudden you start realizing oh my legs do look totally different to everybody else's no one's got big chunky muscly thighs like me everyone's skinny or that's how it felt and then from then became a period where I just hated them

absolutely hated them I used to do anything like to try and hide them in my head I always wanted to shrink them but never understood how to shrink them because it's muscle and I played hockey like five or six times a week as a teenager. So they were never going anywhere, but I hated them. Jeans were awful. Athletics at school, you had to wear those ridiculously tiny shorts. And it just felt like when I put those on, there was like a spotlight to my legs and they just looked different.

But nobody, I went to an all girls high school and no one actually commented. It was all me and then it wasn't until I had children and then got into CrossFit having had kids where all of a sudden it's a great thing. Had you not thought anything of it as well until that one lad said something? No. The words not even the actions the words as one person affected how you viewed your life for a long time. I've got an eight-year-old daughter and she's starting to become conscious and you know she'll say oh my friend she says how

skinny she is but I say that I just want to be strong and I strong and that's what I want her to be and I want her to focus on what her body can do rather than how it looks and that you know if ever I'm having a day where you catch yourself and I'm flashing angle and you think oh god that's not maybe how I want to look I then try and think actually no it's done six diamond triathlons it squats a lot it deadlifts a lot it's had two kids that it becomes like a little bit of a mantra and those words to me they make a big difference because we should we should focus on our abilities and not how we look our bodies change don't we as as you yeah you go through school and you mentioned your daughter and a friend are already

having body discussions at age eight like my daughter's five and if if someone said to me in three years she's going to be panicking about what size she is i'd be like no then this is something has to change and i'm just glad we have more role models now like you mentioned the CrossFit girls people like yourself you know who are empowering people to use their body we just spoke to a lovely lady Leanne who's an amputee with one of her legs and I you know Leanne was speaking I was thinking to think I used to hate my legs because of people saying they were big and strong she's there empowering people who just have the one. You know, it's perspective for everybody and everyone's problems are relative to them.

And I just think having these conversations, it's flipping the switch in that we don't all have to be the same. We're not all going to look the same. It'd be boring if we did. No, of course not. But now here's the problem. We're going to get punished for being in shape. You are in shape.

You're in shape. I'm in shape. Our kids are looking at not just a regular mummer more a super woman with quads from the heavens you see what i'm saying and she's gonna look at that and think that's normality that's what i want to be like and it's so you set the bar unintentionally so high. But that's just because you're a good role model. Gemma, your two little ones are not just looking at little old Gemma from Berry. They're looking at a superwoman that can crossfit and jump. You know what I'm saying? So you've unintentionally set the bar, just like I have with my son.

So now, the challenge now is the parenting has got to level up parenting we've got to find a way of letting the kids know that yes the bar is set ridiculously high

but it's okay to not get there do you know what I mean for other mums and dads as well I find Mia goes to loads

of birthday parties there's a frigging party every weekend I have no social life and they always bring out these parties it's pizza butties and stuff fine it's a birthday party but they always bring out juice like orange juice and ribena and that's where i draw the line mia's the only one who has a bottle of water and she doesn't she doesn't like juice she didn't ask for it but the amount of people they come around does she want juice? I go, no, thank you. She's got a water, thank you.

And the look she gets, as if to say, oh, okay, you brought your own drink. And it's because I don't want her to have that sugary, crappy drink, because then she's going to be running around off her face at home for a few hours before bed. I'm the one who suffers. No, but it's that look look of if you try and do something right in terms of health yeah we were raised monday to friday i had to have veg with every

tea but then every friday i remember it chippy tea we didn't even have to sit at the table we didn't have to sit at the table we could sit in front of the telly eating chips out of a bag. And we weren't allowed fizzy drinks. All I've ever drank is water. And at the time you think, oh, this is misery. But now as an adult myself, I see my mum did it not only for our health, but for her sanity and that we were balanced kids. We weren't running around wild. And that's what people miss, the association with a healthy diet

to behaviour, to mentally feeling good. It's medicine for a lot of things, not just how you look physically. I think it's all about great examples. What I try and pride myself on now is, what am I giving my boys? Examples that, like I said, they're not negotiable.

These are things that you're going to do, whether you like it or not, whether people give me a dirty look or not these are great examples so i'll give you i'll give you my example but i'd love to know yours emma and yours jim my little boy mason 10 every week he will squat and every week he will deadlift so when i pick him up from school on a thursday yeah i book him my diary an hour i'd get back to the gym at half past three. He knows he's working out. Every week he'll do at least 50 press-ups. So what examples and routines have you guys got in place?

Mine and my husband's thing is just never say no because I'll go out for a run and my daughter will say, can I come? And in my head I think, oh, I'm not going to get what I want done. But actually, I just want her to be active. I want her to love moving her body. And if that means, yeah, I I'm gonna come for a random little run with mummy and she buzzes off it she absolutely loves it that's great the other day my husband was doing a thing in the gym and my son just wandered in picked up his little kettlebells picked up his little dumbbells started doing like

a mini workout came out and he was like I've just done my weights for for us I always make sure they go outside in the mornings and it sounds ridiculous and Gawker still doesn't get it, but no shoes on, no socks. I say just go on the grass. I like that. Just for five minutes. In the summer it's brilliant because I sit and have a coffee

while they do it, but I always just encourage them. It's like the grounding thing. I like that. But also just to hear the birds get the natural sunlight in their eyes because

so many times Mia used to come downstairs and the first thing she'd do before she even had a wee come down where's the remote

and I thought this is getting into a pattern of getting out you've been in bed for 10 hours you're now going to come and sit in front

of the telly so I get them outside and sometimes go could we go it's freezing what are you doing but they're wrapped up and i say it's fine and you have to just wash the feet after but it stimulates something in them and it you don't want to sit on and watch the telling brilliant matcham thank you for sharing your story i think it's amazing the examples you're setting and clearly fitness is your life emma's you can see sat in a studio with all kinds going on.

So we'll let you get back to it, back to your treatments. Nice to see you, Emma. Brilliant. Thank you so much for joining us, Gervino. Thank you so much. How did you find your debut on The Overshare? Can I come back? That was going to be my next question.

Would you come back? I want that answer. Man, that's behind there. I want him to be back as well. He wants producer Matt. He was all right. Yeah. He was brilliant.

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