The Overshare with Gemma Atkinson - Pies Have NO PLACE at Christmas : Gorka’s Hot Take
Episode Date: December 24, 2025When Spanish and British traditions collide, there's bound to be some disagreements. Is a Christmas Buffet just a British Birthday Party? And do pies have any place on th...e dinner table? We’re unwrapping the real meaning of Christmas, playing some very WET games that you can play this Christmas time, and looking at the differences between this celebration in Spain (staying at home, keeping it family-focused) and the UK (where the cups flow and the buffet table is long!). Let us know your festive tradition at lostintranslation@bauermedia.co.uk And follow us across the board @lost.in.podcast Feliz Navidad!
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Because we touch on the subjects of Father Christmas
We're being asked a lot of questions at the minute by Mia
And we want to keep the magic alive
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This is Lost in Translation
The Christmas Special
Hence Christmas Jumper
you've not got a Christmas jumper
I mean it's very similar
you don't do Christmas jumpers do you
No it really upsets me
That's it? Yeah I don't judge
But because we're in a safe space
And there's other people here
I bought you this
You will wear a Christmas jumper today Gawker
I'm putting my foot down
It's Christmas getting the festive spirit
Less Grinch
More Santa Claus
No Father Christmas
Santa Claus is a bit American in it
Papa Noel
Papa Noel
Come on be
Papa Noel.
Yay.
You know what?
I have a reason why I don't wear Christmas jumpers.
Are you going to say what?
The itches, the fabric itches or something?
No.
Most of the time I'm the one cooking Christmas dinner.
So then I get hot and I don't want to stain it.
So then I end up being on a vest or a t-shirt cooking.
You always have a festive apron.
I'll give you that.
I know.
My one says,
Ho! Ho!
Where's my Pinking Blankets?
You did.
I don't even know.
that makes sense. No, it did last time.
Ho-ho-hoes and it was a lady
with a booboes out.
Music, please. When I take my top,
we must you go.
No, I want to wish you a Merry Christmas.
Okay, so, I mean, this is,
it's the festive colours.
Unfortunately.
Is my head okay?
Do you know, we've had that jumper for about...
17 years.
Yeah, at least six years I've had that Christmas jumper.
It's back to front.
You had a 50-50 chance.
For frig's sake, 50-50, back to front.
It does suit you, though, a Christmas jumper.
I love Christmas jumper day at work.
Let's be honest.
Well, that's suit me.
Welcome to Lost in Translation, our very festive pod today, as always.
You know how it works now, surely?
It's a very safe space for you guys to get involved.
We have a chit-chat about the week.
We play some games.
We're talking about the festive period.
Yes.
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Vamos!
Coming up.
Proximately.
Oh, no.
You're not inviting us?
You're sexually frustrated,
Gorka.
If we do a buffet,
It just ended up being like a, like I said, like a British birthday party.
It's all pies everywhere.
It's not enough that I choose the presents.
I go out and purchase the presents.
I bring them home.
You now want me to wrap them as well.
Excuse me.
I said I didn't like your Harry Potter glasses and you went, well, I don't like your top.
I want to wish you a Merry Christmas.
I want to wish you a Merry Christmas.
We don't know a lot about what's coming up on the show.
We have some cue cards for just minor outline bullet points.
The producers, though, throw surprises on us all the time, genuinely.
And Molly has got a box with a blanket on.
I'm hoping this is a box of puppies, Mole.
That one's...
These presents.
So it's like a secret Santa.
This one's for me.
Ah!
Do you want to open yours first?
It's fine because I know what's in that one actually.
Oh dear.
Yep.
It's not for me so I can know it.
Did you ask?
No, I just bump into it.
Oh, okay.
So yeah, you love it.
You open yours then.
What do you think is this?
Is it a whistle or something?
Oh.
What is that?
Oh.
What have you always wanted?
Oh, I'm a call.
Coffee machine.
That is brilliant.
I was like, I thought it was a little like pooze in there.
I was like, why is it putting there?
Look at your coffee machine.
There you go.
You can stop moaning now.
You've finally got a coffee machine.
Thank you very much.
That is brilliant.
Oh, I love this.
I love that it's so small.
And I love that it's also like real size for me, yeah?
Is that you trying to say something?
Very nice.
We can make proper coffee now.
You have to keep that away from it.
Benji.
You have to keep that away from Benji.
Right, I'm going to open mine.
Oh my gosh, is it a dog bed?
Oh, it's a bed for Benji.
I'm here for me.
Thank you.
Oh my gosh, Gawker, look.
He is going to love that.
I got an idea.
He's like the king.
I got an idea.
What?
You can move in.
you and Benji in that bed, yeah?
I mean, it would be...
This will fit perfectly at the bottom of our bed.
I was going to say,
you could go with him by only one of your teeth
would fit in there.
Oh, my...
One of my boobs?
Yeah.
You're sexually frustrated, Gawker.
You need to go and have a...
Look on your laptop.
Oh, no, I'll leave that for someone else.
Anybody wants a coffee?
Oh, those are brills.
There you go, Gemma.
Capricino.
One little cup.
So tomorrow is the big day.
Yes.
Father Christmas is coming.
Tonight.
How exciting.
It's been chaotic for us.
It always is, I think, at Christmas, isn't it?
Because I've realised Christmas as a parent,
it's beautiful and lovely
because it's through their eyes again
and it's so exciting.
But there is that stress level
of what do they want, what do they need, where do you put things, where do you hide things.
It's beautiful chaos, I think, at Christmas, but...
Yes, and especially living with someone like you.
I love Christmas.
Which you are like, not like a control freak, but when it comes to birthdays and Christmas and everything.
Yes, but you organise six months in advance.
So almost, like, in the beginning of November or like October, you're like,
we need to get Christmas presents for the children.
I'm like, still October.
Yeah, because if I, but if I wasn't like that,
it would come to this time now, it'd be Christmas Eve now, like today,
and you'd be sat there thinking, I've not got them anything,
nothing's been wrapped, no food's been ordered,
you wouldn't get anything done.
You have to be organised at Christmas.
Would you mean I wouldn't get anything done?
You can't be your last minute, Larry, on Christmas.
Not last minute, Larry, but you just don't stop overthinking.
Like, for the next, like, for the past four weeks,
every evening, your thought was,
like Christmas gifts.
You think I would go enough
and then you go like
oh this year we don't get them
too many gifts just for your gifts
for the last six years you've been saying to Mia
I don't think this year I'm going to get her too many things
because you know
my mom will get her stuff
my sister will get a lot of stuff
and then you go downstairs
and the whole living room
is like a bloody toy saras
yeah you have toys at us here?
Of course we do it's just come back
it's like a bloody toysterer us
toys everywhere and you go
Gemma
what was it called?
Just two or three presents.
But we've got Benji as well this year.
Yes.
But if we were in Spain, you'd be celebrating today, which I just find stupidly weird, that
you have a Christmas Eve.
No, no, you see, you still, after eight years, you still get any wrong.
No, you do something on Christmas Eve as well as Christmas Day.
Yes.
So on Christmas Eve, we all the family get together.
Again, it has to be something with the religion, you know.
So on Christmas Eve, we all get together.
So, for instance, if I was in Spain, on Christmas Eve, I was, on Christmas Eve, I'll,
around like six, seven o'clock, I will go out to see my closest friends or some of the family
that they are not coming to our house, you know, because it depends on the families go to different
places. And we will be having like an aperitivo. So having like maybe like a bead or like
sangria glass or glass of wine or proselyco, have some chapas. And then we will go each one of us
to wish everybody Merry Christmas. It's not Christmas day. Yeah, but you say,
Felis Navidad for the next day, yeah?
Okay.
Always. Anyway, or Feliz Noche Buena.
And then you go to your own house and then, let's say, for instance, when I was younger,
sometimes we used to go to my nannas or come to my house and we will be like 10, 12 people
in the house.
My mom prepared the dinner for everybody.
And on Christmas Eve, what we do is have dinner family together, stay up playing Christmas
games, playing music, playing like instruments and singing songs.
and then you go bed
because the next day is when you wake up
and it's Christmas Day
because in the old days
we didn't have
we don't celebrate Santa Claus
Santa Claus or Father Christmas
is like
we call it Anglos a whole
is something like
British American
is nothing that we have
I mean the whole point of Christmas
is you know
it's the religion like you say
but do you ever
with that on Christmas Eve
my concern is like my sister
she's got three kids
and they're all adults now
Hadley Tyler and Anushka
but she bans them going out on Christmas Eve
because one year they did go out
and they ruined Christmas Day
they were so hung over.
In Spain, Christmas Eve
and Christmas Day is a family day.
So that's what I'm saying.
You can stay up late
but you stay in a home.
It's a family thing.
It's when the family gathers together
and like I said you can stay
eating like
the chocolate traditional biscuits
and chocolates from Spain
like for Christmas
to run in Polboronis
and you stay at home
like all the families.
Then on a, we call
the Noche Buena. And then Noche Vueja is New Year's Eve. And you do the same thing.
You, for example, let's say, on New Year, on Christmas Eve, we went to my grandparents, yeah?
Yeah. So then on New Year's Eve, we come to my house, yeah? Put it this way, Jorge, Jorge's my best friend, yeah?
So in Christmas Eve, he celebrates in later's parents' house. And then on Christmas Day, they go to Jorge's mom's house.
Yeah?
Yeah, so it's like what we do on Christmas Day and box.
Boxing Day.
Then on New Year's Eve, they go all to Jorge's house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then on New Year's Day, you go to a later sister house.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
It's basically you do Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
We do Christmas Day on Boxing Day.
No, but we do also New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.
So do we.
No, you don't.
What do you mean?
No, we don't.
New Year's Eve?
What do you think we do?
Just sit in?
But what you do, New Year's Eve?
You go out for a drink and...
You watch Jules Holland.
Yes.
You do the big...
Down, you're single long's eye.
It's different.
We do a sit-down meal course, like we do the New Year's Eve.
We do that on New Year's Day to soak up all the alcohol for New Year's Eve.
And we do the same thing on New Year's Day and Christmas Eve.
You're cooking tomorrow for us, aren't you?
I am.
Like every year.
He's doing a full, it's difficult for you because I have to have a nut roast.
Uncle Clive's vegan.
I don't mind you.
I think Clive will bring his own.
And then everyone else is eating the turkey.
But we're doing like a Christmas buffet this year.
Because last time...
Well, that's what she thinks we're doing.
No, there's 15 of us.
There's too many to be sat around a table.
Everyone ends up eating like this, like little lemmings.
I think we just push the table.
We have the table extension.
Yeah, we've got the extension.
But even that, I just think put all the food in trays or pots, whatever, on the table.
And just let people help themselves.
You see, for me, that's when Christmas loses the magic.
Why?
Because you're not all sat together.
Yeah, because it's supposed to be a sit-down meal for the whole family.
We all sat together and eat together.
We will all be sat together.
then just not squashed.
You see, it ends up like a buffet
that looks like a British buffet party.
So you genuinely want 15 of us to sit around the table.
Well, that's the beauty of Christmas.
Like a full turkey in the middle, you know, all there
with the song in the background, the candles on,
and we just had together and eat.
If not for that, then just go to McDonald's
and eat at your own time.
Well, it's a bit different, isn't it?
No, I know.
We'll do that then.
We'll take a picture of 15 of us around the table with the extension.
That's what I think.
That's for me, for me Christmas,
because we all have to be sat together on the table.
If we do a buffet, it just end up being like a, again, like I said, like a British birthday party.
Well, we do a buffet on Boxing Day.
We're going to work, my sisters, our kids do in a Boxing Day.
And then New Year's Eve.
Which is my worst name a day.
Your worst, what day?
Boxing Day.
You get chuffed.
He always wants to go to the tip on Boxing Day.
Yeah, but why I don't like Boxing Day?
One of the reasons why I don't like Boxing Day.
One of the reasons why you make a buffet on Boxing Day, yeah?
Yeah.
What do you eat on Boxing Day all the time?
Cheese pie.
I love a cheese pie.
So the pies everywhere.
I had cheese pie the other month.
It was my stepdad's birthday.
I had three slabs of cheese pie.
I'd never had indigestion like it.
I was up in the night with indigestion,
and I kept thinking to myself,
just lay off the cheese pie.
Do you know what I mean?
But Tiago loves it as well.
I know.
It's just, I don't understand pies.
I don't like pies.
Minced pies.
What about a mince pie?
No, absolutely.
Nothing is pie.
You know that.
A mince pie is not.
It's not a savory pie.
It's sweet, yeah, it's awful.
I try them.
It's just raisin with a bit of fresh cream.
I don't like raisins.
Well, mince pie and fresh cream.
It's like an apple crumble, like an apple and raisins since with the means, oh, no.
We've got Gawker's parents coming over for New Year's Eve.
The first time they've actually been to our new house, the last time they came over,
we were in our old house, weren't we?
And we looked at flights to go to Bilbao between Christmas and New Year.
And it was like a half-five in the morning flight, wasn't it?
and then with kids and stuff.
It's expensive for the reason.
Yeah.
So we said let's just bring them over here.
So the flying in on Christmas, no, New Year's Eve.
No, before then.
The flying in on the 30th, the flying home on the force.
Let me explain this, yeah.
Sorry, Mom and Dad.
Sorry.
Are you dreading it?
No, I'm not dreading it.
I'm saying, sorry.
You are all coming.
Well, you two are coming thanks to her.
She's the one.
Yeah, he wasn't bothered, which I find insane.
I wake up at 7 in the morning, came downstairs.
She's having a brief.
she goes to be a coca and I was like yes
I've been thinking and I have this massive
incredible idea like
I just generally I have this idea
and I've looked at flights and I'm not
more in person to like have a conversation
at that time yeah I'm like sometimes I go downstairs
she's full of energy or full of beans
and I go like Gemma just
give me half an hour yeah
she was like no no no listen so I thought
you know why we don't bring your mom and dad
and look at the flights it's fly directly
from Manchester to Bilbao, Bilbao to Manchester
at this time, they come this day
and they go this day before Mia goes back to school, yeah?
It's great, isn't? I'm like...
But you have to, because I'm not doing it,
if I don't do it for you, or for your mum and dad, really,
I do it so Mia and Tiago can see the Nana and Granddad.
You get two sets of grandparents, if you're lucky,
and I always think they should have...
If God forbid, anything happens to your mummer,
one day it will, hopefully years, years down the line.
And then if someone says to Mia,
what did your Nana and Granddad do in Spain?
Imagine if she says, I don't know, I never saw them.
I'd feel awful because there's two hours away.
Well, I never saw, I didn't see my grandparents much either, so maybe that's why there is a
why.
Maybe.
I'm used to it because they live in Portugal, so it's a different thing.
I saw mine every week.
But also, again, she's, in this way, she's like a family person, like she wants to have
all the family around every day, any day.
Me, the chance that I have to be about myself with no family, the best.
So for me, Christmas, you say, you tell me, oh, on New Year's safe, it's just,
us for and Benji watching a movie fantastic she's the opposite we looked at a house recently we're
not moving now but we were considering moving and the reason we liked this house is because it
had another bungalow in the grounds and I was like oh my gosh and at the exact same time he
said what a gym that I'd make and I said I could move my mum and Peter in they could live on
the same ground as us but Goku was like no please any husbands there would you like to have
your wife's parents
next to you
please let me know yeah
let me see if you
this should be a debate yeah
will you agree with me
or even wives
will you have the annoying parents
of your husband
no no no I'm not saying
your mom and Peter
are annoying yeah
I was gonna say
I'm saying if you're
they help a lot
I say wives
oh okay
the annoying parents of your husband
right yeah
Sandra and Peter
they are no annoying
I love them
yeah my mom's gonna
bat to you
20 minutes away is great
speaking of debate
Should we get into this week?
Yes.
So in this part of the show, it's all about listening but not judging.
So we have a debate that have annoyed each other in the week,
but we've had to keep quiet, bite our tongues,
and instead angrily message mall and tell her what our issue is.
Or even send pictures.
And then we have it out here.
So it's kind of like a therapy session, yeah.
Yeah.
Who would like to go first?
You first.
Okay.
So my debate is that when it comes to decorating the tree, I like making a really big deal out of it.
I like putting the music on.
I like having some nibbles out.
I like spending a good four or five hours.
You do a day of it.
Yeah.
Make it a full day.
Make it fun.
You know, get it out of the loft.
pause for a little coffee, step back and look what you've done.
Put more baubles in, step back and have a little look, get the patio open, fresh airing,
do you know what I mean, festive, fun.
Gorka doesn't really like doing any of that.
You would either leave it all to me or you'd just say, I'll do it, but I have an hour.
I do it in one hour, Jemma.
And you do it like any other random chore, like I asked you to put the bin out or I asked you to do the washing up.
That's how you view decorating the Christmas tree.
but I feel we should spend more time on it
we've got kids who will love it
and that's the annoyance for me
is that you rush the Christmas tree
Okay, I listen, I don't judge
but I'm just going to give my opinion
Most of the times, I'm never there
So you always do it yourself
This is what I mean, but now you are here
So you should have helped more
Yes, but I'm like
I'm always away doing that
and I help you, I help you to take everything out
but also when I put the balls you go like
no, that doesn't go there
no, that doesn't go dead
so I just go, okay, you do it
I make you the coffee, that's fine
but I let you build it, you know?
And what about taking it down?
Taking it down, I don't mind it.
I help you to take it down every year
because I'm home always for that.
We do take it down quite early actually, don't we?
I like everything done and down
dusted by like early January.
Which that's one thing that annoys me, for example.
What, that I take it down early?
On New Year's Day
You already want to take it out
It annoys me
You don't only put it up in time
For you don't help me
I'm not here
How you want me
When I'm on Strickley in London
And you always put the Christmas
At the same time
I'm never here
Do you know what
When I did strictly in 2017
I didn't tell anyone
But it was going through my mind
That I wouldn't be able to put my Christmas tree up
Even though I lived on my own
I lived on my own for years
Before I met you
I did always do the whole Christmas tree
Oh my I was like Mr Bean
I'd go
full out and decorate it and all by myself be like ah and i didn't say anything but our strictly
year ran dead close to christmas and my mom and my sister didn't tell me when i came home on sunday
they'd done it for me i walked into my house the tree was up the lights the big candy canes and i went
i started crying that's how much it means to me genuinely it just brings the home to life i've
never been like very christmassy until we've experienced with you the first year and it is true when i
when I come to the house
so we have two Christmas trees
once in the we have like a big
open ceiling landing
so we have a big tree there
then all the staircase is wrapped up
then on the now
we have this new thing
and when you walk on the land
you have double glazed doors
so she has around the doors
big archway
then he has on the corner
Santa Claus
they sing ho ho ho
it's like Father Christmas is grotto
and the little dog
then he had now
this two like
Nutcrackers, she just bought a month ago.
I got sucked in at B&M.
About this size, I'd be almost as tall as me.
Then you have another massive seven-foot Christmas tree in the living room.
But it looks lovely, doesn't it?
The kids love it.
The socks are hanging on the fireplace, which I love.
Stockins, it's not socks, the stockings.
So the only thing we're missing is the reindeer's outside,
which probably you also got them this year.
And tomorrow I've got some, like,
cast a sugar and I always do
footprints in wellie boots
from my front door
because he has a magic key to get in that
we're not got a real fireplace so he has a magic key
and he'll leave footprints
leading to all the presents
so nice isn't it
but we actually had a bit of a
panic didn't we
like a sad moment
in that my brother-in-law
was with Mia and they were
playing and everything she loves her uncle
Rob and he told me he took me
her one side and said,
Mia had said to him,
I'm not sure, you know, if Father Christmas is actually real.
She's six.
It's honestly, genuinely, and I said to him, what do you mean?
And some of the lads in school have got older brothers
and in school they've been saying,
it's not Father Christmas, it's your parents.
And he said, I said, too, well, if you stop believing,
you might not get your gifts.
And she said, well, who buy his mummy and Papa gifts?
And he says, Father Christmas.
And she says, is it not Nana and Ganga then?
And he says, no, it's father.
Who buys Nana and Gang Gang Gifts then?
So she was already at age six.
And it upsets me because with my niece, with Anushka, my niece, we had to tell her before
she started high school.
She was going into high school.
And we had to be like, I remember saying to my sister, you can't let us start high school,
Nina, with that.
Because they start in September.
She'll be going, oh, he's coming soon, isn't he?
He'd be on his way.
And the high school kids would be like, what?
But it was so much longer back then.
Whereas now, with phones and social media and tablets.
and I don't want it to be ruined.
I found that when I was 7-8.
That's young for me.
That's probably why I don't really are into Christmas
because I remember very young.
And then you got on a point that I knew the Christmas was my parents.
So instead of them away for Christmas Day,
I used to go like, I know you are Father Christmas
or can you give me the gifts before because I want to know
I don't want to wait for Christmas.
So then I used to get my Christmas gift, for example,
let's say I wanted to have the new FIFA game, yeah, for Christmas.
So it was an end of a school.
for Christmas so I was to be like
I have three weeks off give me the game
now so I can play don't give it
when it's Christmas because I know it's you so that's really
meta. So I mean all my mom
and I used to keep the magic alive
for them as long as possible. That's the thing
I think like you know your children
are no more children
when they find out the Father Christmas
is your parents because the magic
goes. I think it's because a lot of the family members
have been saying to her what do you want for Christmas
any ideas for Christmas
they need to say write a letter to Father
Christmas and I can show them.
Yeah, or how about how last year had,
your step-mom came to the house
two days before Christmas in front of Mia
with a bag of gifts.
You know, for Christmas.
Mia, that's your bag for Christmas gifts.
Mea, that's your bag for Christmas giving me.
I went like, but Father Christmas haven't been yet.
And I was like, there we go.
Anyway, we're keeping the magic alive for as long.
Even if you have to dress up as him
and fall off the roof, we're doing it.
What's your debate?
My debate is
We've been talking about it, to be honest, already.
So, Gemma loves to wear Christmas jumpers and dress the kids like Christmas trees.
Yes.
We have a picture of Tiago last year as a Christmas tree.
So cute.
And she gives the kids lots of presents that I have to wrap.
Yeah, you're the rapper.
I'm the picker, the buyer and the storage and you rap.
But you're very good at it.
I have no patience for rapping.
I hate it.
I'm one of them, if it's someone's birthday at school,
put it in a gift bag with a load of tissue paper
like not the you know what I mean
like wrapping tissue paper
whereas you do like wrapping you find it quite neat
yeah
so that annoys you that I don't
so it's not it doesn't annoy you
it's not enough that I choose the presents I go out
and purchase the presents I bring them home you now
want me to wrap them as well
is that your my little contribution
what I'm saying is like she said oh I'm going to get some presents
that's fine and we think like two or three for each
yeah but then it's like 10
for each and some of them are big presents
Because it's the most wonderful time of the year
And it's amazing
But you know what's for example for me
It's like you get new toys
Okay
So then go to the play room
And the old toys
Or the ones that they are not playing anymore
Let's get rid of them
Not ready to throw them
Let's give them to charity
Or take them to the hospital
For the children they are there
We do that
Yeah but takes
A few times to convince you
Because you can't just
No it's not that
It's like
The kids know
Like if Mia walked in
Remember when we did it
With a little
She had a little prep kitchen
And we took that to the Bleakalt shop
And she came into the
Playroom and went
Where's my kitchen gone?
Yeah and what happened
With the Barbie house
That she wanted this Barbie house
Huge Barbie house
Like five foot big
She had on her room
She played for two days
And then what she told you
About the Barbie house
She told us to give it to kids
Who didn't have toys
She was like mommy
You know this Barbie house
I don't really play with it
So why we don't give it
to the children
then he's there.
That's genuine.
But that's because
the year before
we've taken
her toys to charity.
Okay.
So that's a good thing
for her to have.
But let's see.
Who agrees with me
that it's annoying
that he doesn't make
the effort to spend
hours and hours
decorating the tree?
And who agrees with Gawker
that he's annoyed
that I'm a hoarder
who doesn't wrap gifts.
Well, I don't like
to spend hours
decorating the tree
so I have an hour
to wrap Christmas gifts.
I need to go back
to be Mr. Bean
and just doing it on my own.
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Right, we've had our turn.
We're now going to solve your dilemmas.
We have the Gorka and Gemma dilemma.
Each week, you guys get in touch.
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And send in something that's been annoying you, something that's happening.
you need help we will try and solve it this week's dilemma comes from F that's all they've said
their name is F hi Gemma and Gorka every year we have my in-laws over for Christmas day
this started way before we have kids and now I have a six-year-old and four-year-old twins oh my
god but you're knackered that's the dilemma yeah it's become the norm it began with my father-in-law
he's on his own bless him then my mother-in-law joined when her plans
fell through and now my sister-in-law and her boyfriend come as well. I do all the cooking
and all the catering. We have a vegetarian and a Muslim guest. They are always late. Even though
they live in the same town. Last year they were so late we'd actually finished eating and their
excuse was that wrapping presents took longer than expected. She said like the 25th of December
just snuck up and surprise them out of the blue. After that I said we weren't doing it again and
my husband agreed but he still hasn't told them. It's just assumed that they'll be
coming to our house as usual.
I don't want to fall out with them
since they help a lot with childcare,
but I'm tired of spending Christmas annoyed
and stuck in the kitchen while they turn up late
and stay until 2 a.m.
We've only got a few magical years left
while the kids still believe
I'm with you on that one
and I want to enjoy them.
How do I get my husband to set the boundaries
without causing a family fallout?
Ooh, that's that one, you know?
That is a tough.
Could you, I'm thinking if it was me,
what I would do was...
I would make a fun kind of Christmas,
not a schedule, but a menu plan,
like dinner served at three.
Like presents, presents from one, dinner, three.
Christmas movies from six.
And if they're not on that schedule, it's too late,
bollocks to you, you knew what time it was.
They can't turn up late.
If someone's gone through that effort to cook a meal for you,
it's a stressful time cooking for Christmas dinner.
Like I know, I've never cooked Christmas dinner.
but how would you feel
if all my family turned up late
when you've spent all that time cooking tomorrow?
To me it's the opposite.
They turn on too early.
They do.
My mum will say, we'll be there for two
and she'll turn up at like 20 to 12.
One. For Uncle Clive.
Uncle Clive, we already tell him
an hour late and he's still been
two hours earlier.
He's still the first one there.
We say, oh, I told everybody around like
two, three, but I told Clive at four.
Okay, fine.
It's one third and Clive is ringing the bell.
He lives on his own Uncle Clive.
We love Uncle's life.
It's my Godfather.
But back to F's point, it is annoying.
Genuine timekeeping for me really, really pisses me off
when people are really, really late.
A couple of minutes here and there,
I always think 10 minutes before or 10 minutes after,
if I'm expecting someone, I can work with.
I'll do one thing.
So I will just do the try of tell them earlier time.
That makes sense.
So, for example, if you know they always,
for the last five years, they've been always going late.
So instead of them
One more chance
Go like, okay
This year at dinner
Instead of being at 2 o'clock
It's at 12
Probably in you prepare for 2 o'clock
They will arrive at 2 o'clock anyway
So just do that
Oh, she could
That's why I do with Jorge
When I meet him in Madrid
Yeah
Because he's always,
That no matter of what
It's always late
If he's 9 a.
I am, he's late
Because he's early
So then I say
Oh let's meet at 10
But for me I know it's like
You'll be there later anyway
Yeah
If it was us
I would throw you under the bus
I would just say
next time I was with your mum
I'd say oh as Gorka told you about Christmas this year
and she'd go no why
I'd say oh I have a chat with him
because we're not doing it this year
and then she'd approach the son about it
and say what's all this about Christmas
this is the problem
not the problem
this is the difference between probably
Spanish culture and British culture
and I have this conversation
with a friend of mine who is British
and his partner is Spanish
we won't get offended
it. We won't make a drum of it.
Like, British will take a person and we're like,
oh, no, you know, inviting us?
If I go to my master and my mom, this is not coming to the house.
Why? Because this, my man will like, okay, fine, see you later.
Yeah, not all of us are like that. I won't be bothered.
No, but in general, you will go, like, we'll make a fuss of bed.
Yeah, you start thinking, oh, what did I say? What did I do?
Yes. It's like, for example, if I make dinner, yeah?
Or you made dinner and you ask me, you like the dinner and I would like, no.
You're like, well, that was rude. I made dinner for you, blah, blah, blah.
You don't make sense?
Spanish people are like,
do you like the food?
No, really.
Okay, fine, no worries.
But that's not true about everything.
I mentioned to you your glasses earlier
and you got offended.
I didn't get offended.
I said I didn't like your Harry Potter glasses
and you went, well, I don't like your top.
No, I said...
I was like, all right.
I was offended.
Yeah, but I'm half British now.
Yeah, is that how you get away?
I'm half British now.
You're like threw it back at me.
You just, you have blue light blocker glasses,
which I'm all for.
But you've got round lens,
and I was looking at you
and you've worn them a few times
out in the house
and I've not liked them
and I've not said anything.
This is getting
another dilemma.
The reason why
is because I haven't even asked you.
Ask you what?
If you like them or not.
I wouldn't expect you to.
No, do with me.
They're your glasses.
But I just thought
I had to tell you.
Have you listen to what I said?
I said like,
if you make dinner, yeah,
and you ask me
did you like the food,
I'll go, no.
But if I don't,
you make food, yeah,
and me, I have no way
and I would like,
well, that was shit.
That's rude.
Oh, so you want about
if you don't ask for the opinion, don't have it, type thing.
Right.
If you give me your opinion, for example, I would have got like, thanks.
I'll like...
I don't know if you can see from this angle.
Look down that camera.
You can't see the back end of your hat, so it's just like he's got a white...
That's it, yeah.
You just got a white tough whilst you're shouting about being offended.
No, but that's what I mean.
Like, if I haven't asked you your opinion...
You'll fire back at me.
Yeah, because I could be like...
But you took a second time.
to lock me up and down, you just went,
well, I don't like your jumper.
Yeah, because I...
And then looked the other way.
Because I didn't ask you.
Right.
It's different if I ask you, you know.
Okay. So for F, she needs to,
A, throw your partner under the bus
by saying to the parents while he's not there,
oh, as he mentioned Christmas to you this year,
we're not doing it at our house.
Or just in a text.
And she'll be like, what do you mean?
And she'll say, oh, ask him.
That's what I would do.
Yeah.
B, say to your fellow at the ultimatum,
if you don't tell him, I'm going to send him a text.
then I'm just going to say really sorry
we're not up for it this time
we want the kids to enjoy it but we'll see you
after dinner. Or like Gawker said
cut throat straight to them on the phone
I'm saying to you right now this is it
set your boundaries because it's the
it's the time of year where
you mentioned your kids F that you didn't
want them to outgrow the magic
and stuff they will outgrow it
do you know what I mean when it's your kid you've got to be the voice
genuinely you don't want to get three
four years time and think oh I wish
I should have told them
you've got to set the boundaries for yourself
because it's once a year
and if you're lucky
you have about 80 of them
so you make the most of them
just do the Gemma
Goca this year Christmas is in the house
do the same this year Christmas is not in the house
I just tell him what we do it
he doesn't have a clue what Father Christmas has bought
until they're opened on the day
my family members are going thanks so much
Gawker he's no idea what they've got
he's your family members no mine
you do it with your mum and dad as well
I don't buy my mum and that gives
which I find really odd
I'm far away
you're not this year
they're coming at New Year's Eve
is true
I give them the flights
oh my gosh
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Should we play a Christmas game?
This is my favourite game, I think.
This is called Carol Chaos.
Carol.
I quite like that.
We've got a brand new game.
We've just been told about this as we came in.
We're going head to head.
We're testing how well we know each other, but it's the festive edition.
Now, we're going to be humming gargling.
Do you know what gargling is?
Yeah.
We have to guess the right one.
With water?
We could play this.
You can actually play this on Christmas Day with you.
family we think we need to have like a waterproof thing yeah it'd be quite good so you basically
just hum a Christmas song and you have to have the form of obstruction in your mouth so either water
well yeah go with water something safe and the other player has to guess what it is he wants to go
first let's do raw paper scissors shoot I won't so you go first
no you I'm the one who needs to guess yeah
I got it, jingle bell, jingle bell, jingon bell, jingon all the way.
Yeah, what are you saying?
What bells?
Jingon bell.
Jingle, yeah.
Jingle bell.
Yeah, jingle bell.
Yeah, I thought you said jingon bell.
Yeah, jingle bells.
Well done.
I don't know the lyrics of this one, but that's great.
Do you know the tune of it at least?
But then what are you going to do?
I'm going to repeat the same sentence over and over there.
You've swallowed your water.
I'm trying to talk.
to you.
Oh, okay.
I'm going to repeat the whole thing all the time, yeah?
Right.
I will be careful with your face.
Don't spit it at me.
Spit away from your mic, remember?
Christmas is you.
Mariah Carey.
That was good.
You do know the lyrics to that.
Everyone knows Mariah.
Have you swallowed it?
Mm-mm.
Why?
You're keeping in for the next one?
Oh, you scruff.
As if you didn't swallow.
Okay.
Excuse me
Do you know that one?
You do it again?
No, because you know it.
Close, no other end.
Oh, I'll do a different part of the lyric.
You'll know that bit.
Oh, yeah, wait.
Santa Claus is coming to town, no?
Yes.
You better watch out.
You better do not cry.
Yay.
Santa Claus is coming to town.
Yeah.
I even did a little harmony for you at the end.
You're not making a sound.
You need to make a sound with your voice as well.
No, like a...
Go on then.
No, you're not singing.
There's no volume.
I don't know.
I can't hear you.
Last Christmas, Cliff.
Way in a manger.
Christmas at?
Father Christmas, big belly
I give up
What is it
Santa baby
Oh
There was no volume
You just sounded like you were drowning
There was no volume
I was like
Extra hard gargle mode
For this one gawks
If you don't know this one
Yeah
You've got no Christmas spirit
Oh
Wimim
Whin'gwim
Whin'gwit
Wheno
Wraimoolew
Mourin'rubh
It's the ice for me, like ice.
Do you know that one?
No.
Oh.
Who's the most popular reindeer of them all?
Rudolph.
The red nose reindeer.
It didn't sound nothing like that.
It did.
No, it didn't.
People would have been singing along to that shouting Rudolph Gorker, Rudolph.
No, it didn't.
Well, it was better than your one with no volume.
Volume.
Turn your volume up.
How can you do it with no sound?
It's just like Donald Duck.
You need to use your throat, vocals.
I don't really use my throat.
What did we dance to for Christmas?
It's not that one.
I know, but what was it?
I don't know.
I'm just like all wet now.
Come on.
Last Christmas.
Navi-Dab? Yes.
Ho! Ho! Ho!
Oh, God, we're not playing that on Christmas Day
because you don't do it.
You've got your Christmas jumper on back to front as well
throughout all of this.
And whoa, it's fine.
Anyway, I love that game.
Please make goggles at home and play it and let us know.
Gaggles!
Gaggles, no?
We should do that with your mum and dad on Christmas Eve.
Imagine your dad doing that.
I actually saw a game the other day that I was.
want to do and I save it actually
for Christmas. I think it's for Christmas.
Well, when you've cooked the dinner,
you can do that for us.
Thank you all for tuning in. That's all. We've got time
for this Christmas Eve special episode,
but we hope you all have a lovely Christmas
however you're celebrating.
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medias. You were lost there?
Yeah, I was lost because I've got water in my mouth.
Felice Navidad.
Felice and Evida, have a lovely Christmas!
I want to wish you a Merry Christmas!
I want to wish you a Merry Christmas!
Thank you.
