The Overshare with Gemma Atkinson - We Always Agree on Parenting, APART FROM When… 😤 | Lost In Translation

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

Gemma and Gorka’s parenting techniques are put to the test on this week’s episode as we hear how they’ll react to some potentially scary moments to come when the kids are older. They also share ...the adorable way the kids reacted to when Gorka arrived home from tour and how they’re willing to accept their son as a top knot w*****! Contact us at lostintranslation@bauermedia.co.uk or WhatsApp on 07761039898. Producers - Henry Hewitt & Molly CarterSenior Video Producer - Elena CottonSocial Media Producer - Cassidy RebeloProduction Assistant - Emily SpunginProduction Manager - Sarah NichollsExecutive Producer - Laurence BassettHead of Production - Cat MoranChief Creative Officer - Lucie Cave Follow us on social:www.instagram.com/lost.in.podcastwww.tiktok.com/@lost.in.podcast 

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Coming up. Proximaement. School run the other day, walking in, she didn't have a knickers on. I know where Doncaster is. Is that the land of Donkeys? No. Okay. I said you ever speak to my child like that again.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Shut up, you top no wanka. If I passed away, would you meet someone else or would you stay single? Probably meet someone else, yeah, in the future. Take a minute to think about it. And then you tell them to call me. Yeah. go down in your sequence. Hiya, guys.
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Starting point is 00:01:26 Right, let's get back to it, or as Gorks would say, Let's In Translation is brought to you by Shell Make sure you download the Shell app And join the Shell Go Plus Rewards to get £2.50 worth of points today. Welcome along. It started with a sigh and an eye roll from Gorka. Welcome to another episode of Lost in Translation. The podcast where we listen, we don't judge,
Starting point is 00:01:58 we have a catch-up, solve dilemmas, play games. And very much are lost in translation. We are today, aren't we? You need a coffee. I need a coffee, yes. He needs a coffee badly. Our coffee machine was broke this morning, but it broke after he made mine.
Starting point is 00:02:13 That wouldn't happen if she would have bought me the gift that I asked her for. But she hasn't bought me the gift. We're still having this coffee machine and keeps breaking. I said to him, please can you make me a coffee? He said, I'll make us both one. He made mine fine, and then it broke before he made his. So he didn't get his. So I'm full of beans, coffee beans.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And I'm empty of beans. He's flatlining. So apologies if I have a very resting bitch face and I'm very snabby to Gemma because it's the coffee. It's the caffeine. A resting bitch face makes you, is that what happens to you? I thought that was just Spanish. That's my face, but it goes times three.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. If you want to get in touch with us at any point during the podcast, please do so. We love receiving your messages. You can voice no-oos or you can WhatsApp us on 07-6-1. 13398.
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Starting point is 00:03:20 Should we have our little catch-up of the week? Vamos. Without further ado. Bamos. So we're back in the same room. Yes. Tours long gone. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:36 New York's. Long gone. Manchester 10K long gone. Not that long gone. Not that long gone. But yeah, last week. But you had an incident on one of the last shows on tour, I believe. I was getting dressed so quickly.
Starting point is 00:03:49 You know when you have like a double show? Yeah. We had a long drive the night before. The sleep has not been long because we have to wake up early for the matinee show. So everything goes like, it's like off, you know? You get lazy. So I was getting dressed, but I was taking longer than normal. And they went.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Oh, no, I need to go. And it was a quick change. Yeah, for one number. You know the number that me, Neil and Julian are dancing the three boys? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I run in and I'm dancing and I'm finishing dressed up that starts coming in, and I didn't think nothing of it. So that number links into the other number with the girls, yeah?
Starting point is 00:04:22 And I didn't notice, but I keep done doing things. I was trying to be funny and I see people laughing. So I thought, oh, I'm being very funny, yeah? And the one point that I did like this, put my leg on the chair. And as soon as I put the leg on my chair, my flies is... And I realized that I've done the whole number, 30 minutes with my trousers, not even close on the belt, and zip down. Did you have underpats on? Yes, but they were white.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Oh. So I was like, that's what you could see it. No. Oh. Well, what does it matter if the white then? I thought it meant you could see pebs through them. No. I just had my flies down.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Oh, right. That's all right. It don't matter. What you could see it wasn't my underwear. My underwear is black. But you can see the underwear of the shirt, white. Oh, okay. So it was all dead, like white, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:16 As if you could dance without noticing your trousers, when are they not falling down? No, because he had just one hook on. Well, that serves you right for slacking. You need to be on the ball all the time. That happened to Neil on the Tehrara. He didn't close the trousers, yeah? And as soon as he was dancing,
Starting point is 00:05:30 the drops were falling down. He was doing this party. We were done like this, and in Montpel would look at Neil. And this, like, flare, Leopar, Leopar trousers that he was on the end of the first half they were on his knees and he was trying to dance and you know when you're walking with your trousers down that you can not walk fast.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Like a penguin? So it's not just me who forgets my knickers then and my trousers? Do you know the other day on the school room we were walking in with me and Mia? And you weren't have knickers. And I forgot to put my nicks on because I was just rushing. Even if you don't rush, you do that.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And she told my mum, bless her. But the way she did it, so I was in London the other week and I FaceTime my mum And she said, have you got there okay? And I said, but annoyingly, I said, my blumming period started on the train of all places. So I had to get something when I got to Houston Station, but I didn't have anything with me on the train.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I was like, blummy neck. And I said, on FaceTime, I said, but I managed to get some up really quick, thankfully. I said, because we were only like a few minutes off, Houston. And Mia was there. And she said, well, at least you managed to get something, mum. She said, what about your knickers? and my mum said, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:06:34 And Mia literally said to my mum, she went, school run the other day, walking in, she didn't have her knickers on. That's how she said it. And my mum went, did she not? She went, no, no? She was like, really, he was like speaking to a 70-year-old woman, the way she was, like, just chatting.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I know. And I was thinking, bless her. And then I had a moment of realisation that she's only literally got a matter of weeks left in year two. And then she's in September's year three. I know, she's going to be seven. I can't believe it. And she's very excited because you'll be able to take her to her
Starting point is 00:07:10 to her first day of school this year with us. It's the first time in your life that you'll be able to take her to a first day. Yes, because it's always in September. Yeah, true. Mind you, you watch it. A first day will be when you're away in Spain. Which day is here? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I just to me out. I'm talking about. No. I can't wait to do that. But you know what? even if it's like the other day when I came home on the first time after a few weeks even if she's about to be seven she's so grown up her face and her eyes still being like a little girl
Starting point is 00:07:41 I know when I see somebody the other day in the way I just do like this and how she hugs and just like snuggles to you it just yeah we tricked the kids we told them Gorka was coming home on Monday I said he'd be able to pick you home from school on Monday night but he secretly was coming home on the Sunday about 8 o'clock so we let me of fall asleep in our bed bed that night and then gok her where she falls asleep in our bed and then we lift her in hers and he said i'll just lift her and he woke her up and she's it was like nose to nose with her
Starting point is 00:08:11 and she went and she was like looking at every bit of your face won't she and then she was so happy to see him and then in the morning i brought t o downstairs and he saw your suitcase and he went where's papa who's his this mommy who's is this and they like were so chuff weren't that you were home yeah were emotional He got emotional. He went bright red and then got a bit teary-eyed. Because six weeks, you know, it was a long time for you to be away. For us, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:41 We're used to longer, but for the kids, bless him. Oh. Anyway, he's back now. He's back to business, back to parenting. Anyway, we're going to have some messages that have been sent to us, yeah? Nice. Which is nice. But before we read the messages, we have a voice note from Beth.
Starting point is 00:08:59 So, Henry, if you don't mind, Can you plan the voice note? Hi, everyone. Love the podcast. Just wanted to send a voice note in. I am going to Bill Bow. And I know, Gorgla, you haven't lived there for a while, but I was just hoping two things.
Starting point is 00:09:17 The first one, I do like to run, if I can, when I go away, not far distances, but I was just wondering if you think it's safe for me to do that. I am going with my husband, but he is not a runner. So I would be going running on my own. And if so, are there any particular areas that would, be good. And also if there's any restaurant recommendations, I absolutely adore Spanish food. I would say it's probably my favourite. And the more authentic the better. So if there's any places you can recommend, then please do. So there's go now. Goca the guide to its guide. Yeah. So first of all,
Starting point is 00:09:51 thank you very much for your message. It's very nice. And two, I'm happy that you're going to Bilbao. because it's a beautiful city It is a lovely city And you like it Especially in the San Marais You can run around that What's that park called That we went with Jorge
Starting point is 00:10:07 That I... Yeah Yeah but not that area So you can run So if you When you go to Bilbao You have the river So along the river
Starting point is 00:10:17 And especially on the left side of the river Which is where is the Guggenheim Museum Which is the new part of the city It's all flat Along the river It's where everybody goes
Starting point is 00:10:28 And runs So actually Bilbao is not that big of a city you can walk the whole city in two hours probably So if you go for a run What you do is you get on one side of the river Let's say for example Whatever is your hotel if it's near the Guggenheim
Starting point is 00:10:41 You go that side You run towards the old town Like the markets To the other side of the city And then you just cross the bridges Because there is bridges all the time And then you for example You run all the way
Starting point is 00:10:54 To Teatro Arriaga Cross the bridge And then you run back the other side So you can see the city both ways and it's beautiful. And it's like literally, it's so flat to run. And I will run along the river because it's also green. You can see the Guggenheim. Then if you go to the beach, you can still run it in the beach
Starting point is 00:11:12 because it's again very flat wherever you go. What about restaurants? Authentic restaurants. It's Bilbao. There's loads, isn't there? Anywhere you go, you're going to eat good food. But just go for like traditional like taverns and things like that. Go to, I will recommend you.
Starting point is 00:11:29 to go to how's you call Caya Pozzas P-O-Z-A-S that street and the near one is the street the football stadium was built the old one
Starting point is 00:11:45 and the new one is still the same for whatever point on that street you are you can see the logo or the football team and that's the famous street where it's the football games gets full of fans and everything but it's very famous because you have pinches So you go from bar to bar having like a little, like a glass like this with this amount of like beer.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And it's like a, you know you have like a pine here. So that will be like a quarter pine. So you ask for a quarter pine and they give you a tapas. And you go like that from bar to bar and that's how you eat. So whatever you go, it's good food. And then if you go to the coast, there is many places in the coast. And you can drive to San Sebastian. Very good.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah. That's lovely as well. And also go to San Juan de Castelugache. Remember the stairs up? I do. Yes, I do. It's the place where the, if you like Game of Thrones, it's on Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It was this island where it's the castle on Game of Thrones on the top. That's there. So what made us to do Gagee. Gok can make me climb it when I was heavily pregnant. Yeah. Which went down well, didn't it? You weren't heavily pregnant? I was.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Or I was heavily pregnant. It was when we told you mom I was pregnant. Mia was born already. No, we didn't take Mia. Yes. It was with Jorge. No, yeah. And Mia was born already.
Starting point is 00:12:58 me I wasn't my mom because this is when we filmed the vlog So I just had it yeah It was after me Yeah yeah yeah I was absolutely effed It was the Christmas after he was born I love how people go
Starting point is 00:13:09 On holiday for different things Because the first time we went to Bilbao Do you remember right There was the bull stadium And there was the protest that I said to go I'm going to go join that protest About bull fighting That was my aim in Bilbao
Starting point is 00:13:21 I wanted to go and hold a sign up Saying stop bull fighting And he was like Please don't jammer please so we didn't but yeah whenever you go have a lovely time
Starting point is 00:13:32 and good luck with you run yeah you'll love it it's beautiful Beth Nicola Nicola says hi Gemmon Gorks love your podcast you both portrayed life
Starting point is 00:13:41 with kids as it is and neither of you has a filter I listen to your recent podcast about Gorkas trainers being colour coordinated
Starting point is 00:13:48 in the wardrobe I had to laugh out loud my wife Fiona colour coordinates everything in her wardrobe she also has to clean and scrub the souls of her trainers
Starting point is 00:13:57 after wearing them before she puts them away Does Gorka also clean his souls? He's not that bad yet However I do yeah We have a no shoes rule in our house Just in case anything's like we always take our shoes off
Starting point is 00:14:11 That's one thing I do clean them One thing I can't bear is shoes from outside Going round the house inside Like for example these shoes They are six months old Look how it's still Very clean He says I can't imagine strictly without Gorka's presence
Starting point is 00:14:27 and I hope he soars with his next venture. Hope Gork hasn't picked up a Scottish accent whilst on tour, love Nicola. I love that everyone's sending you well wishes, Gorks. I know, that's so kind. I know. But I'm fine. He's fine. He's actually better.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I'm fine. He's better than ever. My head will grow now. Yeah. And his back won't be sore. Yeah. Do you want to read Ryan from Doncaster's out? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Ryan from Doncaster. Doncaster, yeah. Where is Doncaster? Donnie's like It's like near Lancaster Yeah It's like a cross from the other side of Sheffield In it Donnie yeah
Starting point is 00:15:04 Okay It's like You're your graphics Yeah I know where Doncaster is Do you want to read it out Is that the land of Donkeys No
Starting point is 00:15:13 Okay Hey just wanted to say Me and my mom Love listening together And we'll enjoy the podcast Thank you It's become one of our favorite things To listen to
Starting point is 00:15:24 Keep up the great word Thank you very much That's very sweet, isn't it? I love there. You know what? I love there's people listening on their own when they're going to work or like in the walk with the dogs
Starting point is 00:15:35 in the evening after war like the other couple they're watching at the evenings. Now also seeing like, not just couples like mum and kids. You know, I mean? Ryan with his mom. It's very sweet though.
Starting point is 00:15:47 George has said, Hi, Gerber and Gorker. My name's Georgia from Manchester. Yay. I just wanted to send you a message to say, I much I love listening to Lost in Translation. I've been struggling with my mental health
Starting point is 00:15:57 lately and honestly your pod has become such a comfort i genuinely look forward to wednesday's because listening to you really lifts my mood i listened to half of the pod on my way to work and save the other half of the journey home so i have something to look forward to there's something so peaceful and comforting about listening to you both chat and it's helped me massively thank you for being yourselves and for creating something that brings people comfort and happiness p s i love strictly i wish they did one for non-famous people because i would be on it and i would win like a flash oh oh george George. I hope you're speaking to someone, Georgia, about how you've been struggling.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I mean, I'm glad we're helping. I'm glad that our daily nonsense is helping. But yeah, thank you for listening. And I hope you feel a lot more perkyer soon. Danielle, hi, both of you. First of all, well done on the pot. It's brilliant. And you are both such a breath of fresh air.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I wanted to let you know that Tiago hating the barbers will soon pass. I have three boys and my youngest love getting his haircut. but one day he went in and was horrific screaming, etc. And it went on for a good eight months. Oh, gosh. Oh, that's good to know. They probably will go because he needs a haircut. Or am I shaving when he's asleep?
Starting point is 00:17:11 A friend of the barber says, don't stress because one day you will take him and he will just sit and be fine. Fast forward another couple of months, he went and sat no problem at all. He was like a different child. He is now 14, so back to refusing to get a head. hair card but that's down to being a lazy teenager. Well, that's good to know, Danielle, because it was genuinely the same thing with Tio. He had three haircuts, no problem, loved it. And then it was just this one time.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah, you kept mad. One time. I don't know if it was because we were in the different shop. I think the first one was the time that he was fine because we were going to the shop alone. He was on your knee. No, he was in the shop where he was no one else only asked with Ross. Yeah. And then he went to that day that I took him and he was when Ross was there with his
Starting point is 00:17:56 Mrs and the newborn baby and the parents and he was like, don't embarrass me. Oh, yeah. Remember that he didn't have the haircut? It was when we went to the, because Ross, he's barber, he's got a couple of shops and the one we use is in press switch, but we once had to take him to one in handcoats in Manchester and there was another guy in the shop, weren't there, you come right up to him to say hello. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah, I don't know. But he needs a haircut. Ross mess asked me the other day when I was like, what are we going to do with his hair? I was like, I don't know. he needs a hair card. Like the way this grown over his ear here, it's just... I know, it looks like he's on Oliver Twist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Like with his little bowl. But it's one of them, isn't it? I don't want to traumatise him and frighten him to death for the sake of his hair cut. I mean, if he needs to be a little top-knocker for a while, he can be. Do you know what I mean? A top-nought wanker. Oh, gosh. That's what they call him.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I mean, I'm in line one today, look. I can say it because I'm always a top-not-one. Look at mine. But he does need it cutting before holidays. because it's going to be a faf. I even said to him, I tried to frighten him. I said, if you don't have that haircut, you're going to get bugs in it. And he just went so.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And I thought, oh. You should tell me that before. I would have told Julian. Do you know a top-not wonka? Yeah, next time you see Julian, King Julian. Yeah. Top-not wanker. Have you ever heard the phrase, Top-Not wanker?
Starting point is 00:19:12 No. Oh. I would tell him next time I see him. Shut up, you top-nobanker. Shirley says, hi, Gemron Gorka. I love watching you guys. I'm from Ontario in Canada near Niagara Falls. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Born and raised in Ashburn, Ashbourne in Derbyshire, sorry. I especially loved a strictly season when you two got together, setting your sights on the Spanish one age, Emma. You know it, surely. Keep up the good work. I really look forward to your next podcast. You're both hilarious and such a gorgeous little family too. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Is this just watching in Canada? Do you know that's one of the places? Canada and New Zealand. And one of the two places, you're boring him, Shirley. So am I. No. Because he's not at his coffee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:54 We said at the start of the ep. But Canada and New Zealand are one of the two places I'm desperate to visit. I would love to go to New Zealand. You can watch the Orcas in New Zealand. It's nice. Canada. Do you know you need to go to America with a visa, right? Yes. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I need to go via America. I had a rough time in America years and years and years ago. And not a pleasant experience in the airport. And I've said since then I don't want to go back just from being stubborn. Yeah, well, I'm going to New York again on my own. I went again on my own because you don't want to come with me. I got stripped search at an airport. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:20:25 No, it wasn't, it was awful and it was for something that I didn't even do. It wasn't even a thing. And since then I was like, I have never coming here, I've been here seven times, I'm never coming back now
Starting point is 00:20:36 and I bet they were thinking, we're like, we don't care. You were like, that's a mistake, huge mistake. Yeah. Do you know who am I? Big mistake, huge. Yeah. But yeah, thank you for watching.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Thank you for all your lovely, lovely messages. That's brilliant. What a nice way to start the show. I like the messages. I honestly, think that we should do just one show of reading messages. Very nice, very kind. Now to bring it down with our debates.
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Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't know why. Maybe it's the weather. It's like having a little coach, a little PT. that actually stays on your arm. Actually, my recovery's been 25% actually, so it's told me not to go into a massive workout. I need to rest. For me, it's about understanding when I can push in training
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Starting point is 00:22:14 If you want to stop guessing and start understanding what your body actually needs, go to whoop.com. My debate this week is something that potentially could have turned into a massive row, but we both controlled it. Why is it? Because we both realised the error in our mistake. So, when Gorka was away, I cleared out the garage. And it took me a while. I did countless tip runs, folded up boxes, cardboard.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And you FaceTime me. It was quite a need to other, yeah. Yeah, and you FaceTime me. And I was just knacky. I said, I can't go to the tip anymore. And you went, don't worry, Gemma. Put in my car, when I'm back, I do it. And I was like, are you sure?
Starting point is 00:23:04 And you went, yeah, it's fine. So I put Gawker's back seats down, loaded his car with boxes. And in my head, I thought, well, I'll just take it to the tip tomorrow. He's not back for a couple of week. And then when he came back, you used my car for the schoolroom. But then when you went to use your car for the first time, he opened it. And it was just, he was full of boxes, wasn't it? And you went, what is this in my car?
Starting point is 00:23:29 and I looked at you and went, it's those boxes and I thought, shit, I could have told them to the tip. And then I went, you told me to put them in your car and then you went, yeah, it's okay, I go now. So we both realized, I was like, oh my God, I didn't take it to the tip. But he was like, oh no, I told her to put in my car. So we were both like in this position of,
Starting point is 00:23:54 I was thinking, don't you fucking dare go for me. I know you were thinking, as if I have to move this. but we both just went Do you know what? Yeah You said you'll do it It's been weeks
Starting point is 00:24:03 But you're doing it And then I had to take Tiago Because I took his car seat out To put the seats down So then he was going Papa Papa, Papa I said no you're coming with me today
Starting point is 00:24:13 I said Mia got with Papa You come with me That's the end of it Done That was my debate So you know when the other day The same day You said the car
Starting point is 00:24:21 It was full of the boxes Yeah So obviously I have to take it to me At the school Yeah And I was like Why are you gonna do this With this blah blah
Starting point is 00:24:27 No Anyway I went on the car and you drove my car For a period Yeah So what happens is I got in the car And I was trying to ring the door
Starting point is 00:24:38 But my phone wasn't connected Also my seat was all moved Yeah I woke in it was I couldn't reach the pedals Because you told her than me I pushed the seat back Yes
Starting point is 00:24:48 My bag was straightening Because you got very up Because I've got a good posture You're like a quoscent You look very upright No I'm just chill when I'm driving Anyway Thank goodness, I have to present number one
Starting point is 00:25:00 to go back to where it needs to be, yeah? Because I have a safe, so that was easier. Even now I would have been like, Gemma, what you're doing? I'm trying to really think, why did I drive your car? Because your car was on the service, no. Your car, Peter needs your car for going to your nieces. That was it, yes. And your mom has her car, so you needed my one.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yes, my niece was very due date. And so my mom was over at my nieces, but we needed, Peter needed my car to pick the kids up from school because I was at work, so I had to go to work in Gorkers' car. Yes. Anyway, so that. And then I was like, the form normally to open the gate because I was trying to ring but I couldn't ring. So I was like, why is no ringing my car?
Starting point is 00:25:37 And then I realized it's jam. So I tried to swap the phones, but my phone wasn't connected anymore. So I couldn't connect it. Then I was looking for the phone. I wondered why it was taking you so long. And driving like I had to stop on the road. Yes. So we were leaving the house. I was behind with Tiago.
Starting point is 00:25:51 You got to the gate. And I was thinking, why is you not opening the frigging gate? In the end, I rang it. Yes. I was looking for the fob. That's what I rang you. Yeah. I was looking for the fob.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Couldn't find the fob. The pub's in my car? Yes. So you take my car and take the fob after. Then my phone is also, in my car was your number. It says Mike's iPhone in my car. Mike? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Who's Mike? That's my question. I was like, who is Mike? And I just realized. It's tools. Yeah. Yeah. So I couldn't get in my phone.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I have to delete all the phones. That's when I stopped. To delete me, I won't turn music. to go to school, so that was what I know in me. Oh well. Yeah. At least we didn't kill each other over the boxes in your car. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:36 As alongside our debates, the producers have started throwing in their own questions for us, just to spice it up a bit. The question this week is, have you ever had any parenting techniques that the other person has disagreed on? Yes. Well, remember that time that I was getting, you were able to go to work, and I was getting Tiago already. it was Tiago Mia
Starting point is 00:26:58 and he was screaming super loud and I just went like and you were about to leave the door you throw the coffee left the kids and did it and run upstairs like what are you doing? Yeah he shouted
Starting point is 00:27:11 you screamed at him was it hit me or Tiago I don't remember he really raised his voice lost it and I threw my coffee sprinted literally you were out
Starting point is 00:27:23 you were about to close the door and he and throw the coffee, you could hit the kissing backs, and she was like, hey, what you're doing? I said, do you ever speak to my child like that again? But then, like, weeks later, I was doing it because they do push you to your limit. But it works because whenever you're away,
Starting point is 00:27:48 I always say if they're being naughty and they don't listen to me. But you can more frustrated with them than me. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I do, but it's little things. But to be fair, Mia's really good at it. Yeah, but sometimes you lose it, you are less patient that I am with them. Yeah, when I have to ask them four times, that really annoys me.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And you say, I shouldn't have to ask her four times to get shoes on. Sometimes also you ask in a way that no one hears you, even me hears you. Because the TV's too loud. Yeah, but you just go and say it and they do it. Like, for example, I just had to go, Mia. Like today, when you wanted her to do something, she was in dinner, I was like, Mia.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And I just did like this in my eyes. And she goes like. And she knows. But Tiago's just cheeky. He runs away from you. It's like with the nails, Tiago, how many times when I've been on doing for six weeks? You go like, I cannot cut Tiago's nails.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I'm struggling. He does a lady with my mom. Last night. You let she do it. I go, Diago nails. He was like, no, I was like, I'll smuggy bumbon, even if I won't do it. And he was like.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Well, with me, he makes a fist. Yeah. And I say, give me your nails and he makes a fist. And in the end, I say to him, fine. You get all those germs under your finger. I said if you want dirty nails, but it makes me feel sick when they have dirty fingernails. Yeah. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 No, with me, let me cut them. And I say, can I get you? I say, yes, not my toes. No, I'm not cutting your toes. Yeah. But I think we're both very similar with parenting. Firm but fair, I like to think. But it was just that one time.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But for example, I raise his voice. I feel like I'm more strict and more like, yeah, more strict. But I have to say less things to get it done. You are more flexible, but then I'm not getting in your nose. nerves because you have no patient. Yeah, like you'd have lost your mind the other weekend. The house, it's never been as bad on its ass as what it was. It wouldn't be if I was there.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That's what I'm saying, because you would be on it. But I knew. No, because I would make them tidy up. It was fun. The sun was out. We had the paddling pool. There was water guns. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Benji was in and out. And I looked around and I thought, gosh, Jesus is a mess. But then I thought to myself, I'm going to give myself a cut off. When it gets to six o'clock in the evening, they're both having a bag. fresh PJs on and then they're going to sit and I'm going to blitz the whole house. No, they did. Okay. That was, that was, I said to them, listen, have your fun.
Starting point is 00:30:04 It's a weekend. I said, but it's six o'clock. I want you both in the bath. Seven o'clock. And ready for bed? I said, seven o'clock, you can watch telly for an hour. Max, while I tired of the house. They both said, okay, mummy.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And they did it. And the house, it was spotless. And I got in bed that night. They were fast asleep. I thought, what a fun day we've had. Nice. Walk up Monday morning. House was spotless.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You'd have been stressed all day. Another diversion. Now you said that. See me the other day, this thing on Instagram, yeah? She says me something and then a message. And the message says, I'm going to get this for us. So I was like, what is it? You know, I'm going to get this for us.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It's this water guns has like a little thing in the spirals. And you basically go and it shoots water. And I was like, wow, where are we now, 12? Well, I think there'd be fun to play with in the summer. For the kids, yes. No, the kids have got their own. When the kids are at school, imagine ducking and diving, and we can roll on the back field with it.
Starting point is 00:30:57 If you like a proper Tomb Raider, you could be like the Punisher. Oh, God. You could be like John Rambo. Aye. This week's dilemma comes in from Debbie. If you want to get in touch, by the way, with a dilemma,
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Starting point is 00:31:28 So Debbie, Debbie's dilemma, me and my partner are currently trying to book our summer holiday for September. My partner has found a gorgeous hotel in Greece, all inclusive by the beach, food looks amazing and the pools seem so relaxing. He's falling in love with it. However, there's one problem. It's where I married my ex-husband. I don't tend to talk about my previous life, but to put it short, my ex was a dick. My partner knows about him, but doesn't like me talking about it either because it upsets him. seeing me upset.
Starting point is 00:31:59 How do I tell him that this hotel is the last place I'd like to go? In fact, I'm not really keen on going to Greece again. I love the pod and you're adorable. Oh, tell him. Yeah, you just have to be honest, Debbie, and say, do you know what? It's nothing that you did bad. It's not that you won't, it would be worse if you were the one who wanted to go there. You actually don't want to go there for a good reason.
Starting point is 00:32:19 For a good reason. And if he doesn't like talking about it, he'll get why you won't want to go. Yeah. It'd be worse if you went. And then find out. And then he found out. later because if you put pictures up you might have mates going oh did we go to the wedding there did it yeah yeah i'd just say to him i've got a funny thing with greece because i went with that nobed
Starting point is 00:32:38 and it just i can't i can't relax there can we look similar hotel but somewhere else yeah it's like we never separate but if i want someone when they want to go with me to tennariff and we'll never go to ternarif touch would we never separate yeah oh you won't want to go back to the reef without me no oh Oh, that's nice. No, because it's just many, holds many memories. Here's a weird question for you. If God forbid, touch would, thank you, angels.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Shield around us, we don't for a long, long time. Thank you, Raphael, Michael, Gabriel. If I passed away, would you meet someone else or would you stay single? I will probably meet someone else, yeah, in the future. Take a minute to think about it. Frick it. No, but I'll pretend you to do it. I will love you to do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:30 How long? What's the time limit? I don't, whatever. I mean, if the next day I bury you, do I mean? It's like the other day we were at this conversation and we were talking with China and Neil, yeah? Yeah. And Neil says, I don't know what he was saying in China.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Obviously, Neil and China have like, I think it's like 15 years difference, yeah? Right, okay. So Neil is 44 or 40? And she's 27, no? Okay. Go on Neil. Anyway, she, they were like this conversation in China. just when and he's like, Neil, I'm going to bury you.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And remember, I will be coming with my next boyfriend. So that's what I mean. I mean, I don't know how long we will be. I wouldn't be, of course it won't be like in the next month or two months. Well, I would hope now. But for example, if I die before you, I would love you to be happy. I don't want you to be living in the memory of like, oh, I miss him. I want you to be happy.
Starting point is 00:34:20 No, no, it just crossed my mind. But like I said, Raphael's put a shield around us, so we're fine anyway. but no I just always wondered if you'd happily move on I mean if I'm my 70s yeah I couldn't be ass with that yeah no I don't want to do but we were talking in work the other day
Starting point is 00:34:38 because we're like over eight years in now but you know what I think I think I will stay single and just have a mingle yeah single and mingle because I was thinking I was thinking how stressful the thought now of me
Starting point is 00:34:52 going on a first date again or having that first kiss again or having someone see you naked again for the first time it was hard enough in your 20s you'd be like oh god the thought of that now yeah but you still mingo
Starting point is 00:35:05 you're trying to have that yeah but I don't know it's just it doesn't seem fun or appealing now that it seems stressful yes do you know what I mean it's like you know what I look like naked you're you know you've seen everything
Starting point is 00:35:18 you've seen me have the kids sometimes I don't you've seen me have norovirus sometimes I forget it do you know but you know what I mean though you've seen yeah yeah yeah yeah You've seen the best and the worst.
Starting point is 00:35:27 What do you mean that you're just comfortable? You just don't care anymore. Not. I made a very nice effort the other day. You actually said to me, oh, look, I'm all nice and I look's all nice. Whereas you. Let's move on. Yeah, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But thanks for confirming it. But I would Debbie, I would just be honest with him. Yeah. And just say, I really don't like. Don't want to go there. I wouldn't want to go there. Not if you got married there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:55 No, just be honest with him and, oh, you could start writing bare negative reviews about it from anonymous and say, oh my gosh, look, the pool's not so clean after all. No, I've just read that someone got food poisoning, let's go somewhere else. No, just say it here, say the real thing. But thank you for your dilemma, keep us posted on the outcome, Debbie. Do you know when we went to Greece? That feels like decades. We had the best time in Greece, didn't we? That was like decades ago.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Oh. No? Yeah, it was before the case. Remember that coffee, ice latte with the donut? With the donut. We played beach volleyball. Michael Jackson in the car. Not volleyball, tennis.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah. Not tennis. What was it? With a paddle. Paddle, yeah. We were annoying and everyone was trying to sunbathe and relax. But we had to play early because it was too hot. So we'd start playing, but it was this just...
Starting point is 00:36:44 It was just this noise of the paddles. Yeah, but we used to be on the beach. First on the beach. Just, but it used to be on the beach, yeah? the beach yeah 7.30 8 in the morning straight up
Starting point is 00:36:59 up and out catch the sunrise play a bit of paddle go for a nice coffee food by 12 30 we have to live the beach people find it weird that we pre-kids went on loads of holidays
Starting point is 00:37:09 and we didn't get drunk we didn't drink or anything we've never had a drink on holidays we've always been in bed early up early with every holiday I remember that holiday we have a corona age and I have a picture of us in the pool and we left
Starting point is 00:37:22 left half of the burden of the corona. So even before kids, we didn't do that wild stuff. Game time? Game time, baby. Thanks to Shell for partnering with the show. Shell are genuinely part of our day-to-day life. And when we're on the road, we're always popping in. Even now that I'm on tour, and after I sign up with the rewards,
Starting point is 00:37:48 I'm still getting points when I fill up the car with petrol. Yeah, well, I'm fueling your car up at the minute, so I'm getting all your points. Did you know as well? new members get two pound 50 worth of points so you've pocketed that which you can spend on your next trip i've got loads of points go so i'm filling your car up i'm filling mine up i'm getting me coffees in so my points are going to be through the roof well you're driving my car so you get the points then that's true that is enjoy that jem the other day we were on the road now going to the next city and we stopped at the cell garage and guess what i found there my favorite
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Starting point is 00:39:20 let's get back to it. After our producers ask us before If there were any parenting techniques We disagree on Our game this week is the parenting A Scenarios game So we've got a list of scenarios that might happen With Mia and Tio
Starting point is 00:39:38 As they grow up Through childhood into adulthood And we have to discuss how we deal with it Their best friend tells them They don't want to be their friends anymore That's very easy I'd say then they weren't a friend to begin with Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:51 I'd say for what reason what's happened have you had a fallout? Mm-hmm. And then I'd say, well, it's their loss and they clearly weren't a true friend. But also she knows who are with her best friends anyway. I know. They get their first boyfriend or girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:40:08 this is never going to happen, at 16, and ask if they can stay over. I would rather the boyfriend to stay in my house than her go to the boyfriend's house. To be fair, we don't like a plane upstairs now with the mates who are boys, do we? Because they're at that phase where they want to play doctors And they want to do all this stuff
Starting point is 00:40:28 Which I think all kids go through But yeah, I'm much rather Like you, I'd rather have them in our house Yeah And also she can sleep in our house with the boyfriend I doesn't mean the boyfriend has to live in the her bedroom Yeah, they can go in the spare room You can sleep on the other room, you mean?
Starting point is 00:40:45 What would you do if they had a house party without asking? Oh In our house? They'd have batter them I'd absolutely batter them Same. Yeah. I've never done this in my house.
Starting point is 00:40:55 No, I've not. My sister did. Never? My sister had a house party where my mum and dad went away. She locked me in my bedroom practically. One of her mates threw up and she they hoovered the sick up. She threatened after told mum that she'd batter me. It was one of the worst nights in my life.
Starting point is 00:41:10 But no, and to be fair, I'd like to think they wouldn't do that anyway. Yeah. I'd like to raise them so this frightened enough of us to not do it. You find out Mia has had a fact. fight at school, but it's because she was protecting Tiago. I had high-fiver and say, she'll move there. Me, yes, but first of the first of the I ask her, what happened with Tiago? If it's Tiago's fault, yeah?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. I will not smack Tiago, but tell him off. The rule in our house is with fighting is that you never, ever, ever start a fight. But if someone comes to fight, you fight. Ever. But if someone does start it, you always finish it. I always say, too, well, we never start a fight, but we always finish it. but you first of all tell someone tell the teacher tell me tell your dad whoever my mom always said to me
Starting point is 00:41:57 you never fight but if someone who slapped you one you slap them twice yeah you hit them back harder that's what i was told never ever started but my mum used to always say to me but if anyone's it's you jemma you're hitting back harder and i'd be like okay and then you tell them to call me yeah and you'll go down in your sequence you imagine no call me so i can call you to go at the park on Friday night and they ask if they can stay out late? No. I don't know. No?
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'd be all right with that as long as they stayed at the park and I picked her up. No, no, no. How the way the parks are going now. The parks now are not the parks when we were like 10. But there's that fine line of if all the mates are doing it. Don't care. They're not my kids. It's only one.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Absolutely not. That may be, I'd say you could have an extra half an hour. I will tell them, listen, it's not a park, but it's as big as the park. you can come to my garden and stay the garden as much as you want to and make as much noise as you want to. They can't drink the 2020 and hooch. She wouldn't be drunk in 2020 and the uch in the park. Hooch, hooch in the park. You find out parents' evening that they've fallen in with a bad group of friends and their disrupting lessons.
Starting point is 00:43:10 That I would have a do with. I think it's so important. The friend, especially in high school, the friends they make, like my friends are still my core friends from school. and there are a lovely bunch of girls within reason. I mean, we've all had our moments doing stupid stuff. But if they're hanging around,
Starting point is 00:43:29 because my mum and dad used to actively take me away from groups of people because they used to say they're no good. And I used to be like, no, they're fine. And my dad used to say, I don't want you knocking around with them. They're genuinely no good. And hand on heart, everyone he took me away from.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It was good for you. It's so good. They're either in prison now or something bad's happened to them. Yeah, yeah. And it's like your mom and dad know that's what early on. Yeah. But that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:43:54 That's when you have like, if you have a good relationship with your children, they feel like they can talk to you. Yeah. It's one is to be discipline, but not be too extreme, that they feel they cannot open up to you, you know what I mean? They are scared of you. You don't want that. Yeah, because they'll do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah, and talking about this, you find out they have been using your card to buy stuff on a video game. No. It will never happen because, for example, one, for you, they will do that and you wouldn't even notice. But me, the cars, if they have to do, it will have to be with my, nothing will go under my...
Starting point is 00:44:29 It's got to be registered. No, it's within my idea. So if they try to buy something, I will have to be the password. They will know the password. You messaged me the other day saying, did you buy this? And it was Sabrina the Teenage Witch series one
Starting point is 00:44:41 on Paramount. I went, yeah, it's Mia. And he was like, okay. Because I get notifications of everything. So I have all set up there. Is someone trying to buy anything? or even if it's on Netflix or whatever even when they log in on Netflix
Starting point is 00:44:52 and it's just login they don't know it but I know they are logging on Netflix. You can see what I've watched the other day you said to me, did you start watching this? Yeah, or on Disney every time they put the code to go in it I know they are doing it so I know how many times me I'm watching Disney
Starting point is 00:45:07 how many times you're watching something else we have the parent lock thing on YouTube so she can only watch certain YouTube's we are quite strict with all that I check every day the history of YouTube I can tell you you've been watching. It's everything Michael Jackson and the little guy dancing and all the other things, yeah. It's how the Rocky Four montage of Michael Jackson, because it's just Tiago's obsession.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I have you unchecked, even if I'm away. But, yeah, I'd like to think she wouldn't use our car, but if she took money from any of us without asking or was being sneaky, she'd be grounded. If you used to buy a pair of training, I'll forgive her. Yeah. Of course you would. Oh, I liked that game. It's nice, yeah. It's quite interesting, wasn't it, to see.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I don't like the thought I was having teenagers though. No. It sounds ridiculous. But you know Tiago's only two, so he's hopefully ages off. But when boys, they start getting erections and stuff, I was interviewing a lady, and it was a doctor, and she said it's very healthy that men wake up, the morning glory. She says, it's very healthy that they wake up with an erection.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And she said, in fact, if that stops down the line, it could be the testosterone. So I'm like, okay, that's fine. I said, so they don't actively want to have sex every month. Because I went through a phase of thinking, oh my God, every morning, you're just there. Like, he's pressed in my back. And she said, no, she said it's a good thing. It's the blood flow.
Starting point is 00:46:27 It doesn't mean they're having dirty dreams or anything like that. But then I thought, oh, when it happens to Tiago, he's going to want the first time that happens to you. Do you wonder what it is and why it's happening? I don't remember that something. Because if it happens when you're not in and he asks me, I don't know what I'm supposed to say to him. I don't want to say, oh, don't touch it, because I don't need to think it's unnatural and, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:52 but at the same time, I don't want to go, oh, well, it's an erection because of the blood flow, because of this. Anyway, in that node, we'll let you know how it goes. I hope you enjoy the podcast. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you again, Shell, for supporting our show.
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