The People, Process, & Progress Podcast - The Right Move at the Wrong Time is the Wrong Move | Foundations Friday #105

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

In The Right Move at the Wrong Time is the Wrong Move | Foundations Friday #105, I share Rener Gracie's quote on episode #399 of the Jocko Podcast. I also share how Project Managers and Planning Section Chiefs should consider this sentiment when pulling together multi-disciplinary teams.Rener Gracie's book is available on Amazon (no affiliate)Listen to Jocko Podcast #399 with Rener GracieHope is NOT a plan - No egos - No silos - Godspeed

Our citizenry expects that we're working together as a public safety team. Is it better than what we have now? If the answer is yes, move ahead. Let's get logged in and get locked on to the KevTalks podcast. Three, two, one. Everybody, thanks for coming back to the KevTalks podcast. This is Foundations Friday 104. The right move at the wrong time is the wrong move.

This is the clock principle from the 32 principles, harnessing the power of jujitsu to succeed in business relationships in life. From Henner Gracie, who is the grandson of Elio Gracie, who is the founder of Brazilian Jujitsu and Art that I practice, and who was the guest on the Jocko podcast this past week, podcast Jocko podcast number 399 that I'm listening to finishing up and just a great story. I love the history of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I love Jocko podcast. Hunter Gracie puts out great stuff.

He has for a while to hear how he helped grow the business from a traditional standpoint of in-person only to the UFC to now online classes and a big network of things. And listen to the episode. I'm not going to spoil it. But what I want to hit in and come back to is this right move at the wrong time, particularly if you're a project manager, right, supporting a team, or if you're a planning section chief, like in the world, I used to live in an incident management. So for project managers, sometimes we are too strict. We stick too much to the principles, whether it's whatever discipline, instead of getting the tempo of the team. And like

I write at kevtalkspod.com, and I'll link to this article as well. For project managers, we need to recognize when the team and the project team needs to be dynamic and adjust to the situation with when we do need to hold to the standards and the timeline. And that balances, right? Stuff comes up with the people on our team, budgets change, and disasters happen. And that leads into the planning section, Chiefs. If you show up and people just need food and toilets, and you don't need all the components of that planning P that we love to follow, that's a great thing to learn and, and, and reference, then change your meeting tempo. And don't make all the documents

that they told you to make in the course, you get the gist of it, you can apply this principle. And that's the point that Henner makes in his, in his book, 32 principles, and that they talk about on the Jocko podcast, is if you can do the right move, and he's talking about an example where the timing for getting this young man to start jiu-jitsu and help his social anxiety just wasn't there. And then he took the time and then they tried some different things and adjusted. And then he became a jiu-jitsu practitioner and changed his life and got over his social anxiety.

It was really powerful. And for those that don't practice jiu-jitsu, I've talked about it. Of course, Joe Rogan, Jocko, had never talked about it. It's really a great form of activity in martial art and self-defense and mental health therapy. So think about if you're leading teams, if you're fostering, facilitating a process, you might think, hey, this is the right move. But is it the right time or the wrong time? Because if it's the wrong time to do something, to take a disciplinary action after a team's just been through a loss, like in public safety or the

military, then it's the wrong move, right? If it's the right move to make an administrative policy change, but it's going to have a huge negative impact on morale, then it's the wrong move, right? Then we need to pivot. So the clock principle has to do with timing. I look forward to reading that book. I'll link to Hunter's book and to this episode, 399 of Jocko Podcast. Thank you for coming to this episode of the KevTalks Podcast.

Got some great interviews coming up. And please visit kevtalkspod.com. You can go there, follow me. I'm at pedelkg on Instagram and Twitter. Got a Facebook page and the website. Thanks so much, everybody. Remember, hope is not a plan. Keep those egos and silos out of the way.

And Godspeed.