The Ramsey Show - App - Finding Your Passion Means Finding a Problem You Want to Solve (Hour 3)

Episode Date: July 17, 2019

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🎵 Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, broadcasting from the Dollar Car Rental Studios, that's the Dave Ramsey Show, where debt is dumb, cash is king, and the paid-off home mortgage has taken the place of the BMW as the status symbol of choice. Ramsey personality and career expert Ken Coleman joins me at the quarter hour. He'll be with us for about a half hour from 15 after until 45. And if you've got questions about a career, questions about the job you're on,

questions about how to get the job you love, questions your direction in life he is the guy and we'd love to have you call in now and be in line for him we're going to open up some lines right now kelly's doing that the phone number 888-825-5225 888-825-5225 5-2-2-5. So 17 years ago, I sat down in this exact spot, and we moved the Dave Ramsey Show from another office that we were in to this office building. We called it Financial Peace Plaza for a long time, and then it was the Ramsey Solutions headquarters. And for 17 years, three hours a day, five days a week, I have sat here and answered your questions. And this is the last time I'm going to do that at this location. This is the last hour of the Dave Ramsey show in this location.

Probably doesn't matter much to you guys, but we're a bit poignant around here. The studio has been redone in that 17 years to be upgraded. The quality of equipment that you can get has certainly changed over a couple of decades. The delivery of things has changed over a couple of decades. The delivery of things has changed over the couple of decades. During that time, we started and ended a Fox Business Network television program. And this studio is outfitted with cameras, robotically controlled from New York by the Fox Business team.

And we did that for two years out of this studio, as well as the Dave Ramsey show itself. The first two years of the Fox Business Network, we were on in the evenings. Some of you didn't know that. I'm not very good at TVs. I failed, and I quit doing it. I'm happy with radio. Thank you for radio. And, you know, when we moved into this building, no one in America knew how to spell podcast.

And now there's about 7 million of you listening on podcast. We launched a YouTube channel in this room that you guys watch live every day. Hello, shout out to the YouTube crazies out there. They call themselves. And we launched a Facebook Live broadcast from this show, from this desk. We've launched the Ramsey Personalities and their books, number one bestsellers all, from this desk on this radio show. We've told you about all kinds of things over this 17 years.

I was sitting here, you know, when all kinds of different crises happened around the world, earthquakes and school shootings and church shootings and all the different things that happened. I was sitting here through several presidents being elected, and none of them changed my life or yours. I've sat here through a lot of stuff in a couple of decades. It's pretty interesting.

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And so pretty incredible times. We're very, very excited about the future, but we also just want to take a moment and stop and think about the past. And a lot of good stuff has happened in this room. I was sitting here when I answered a lot of your questions. When you first watched the YouTube thing, it was when I was sitting at this desk. And millions and millions and millions, hundreds of millions now of downloads of that stuff. Pretty incredible times.

So anyway, we're going to take your questions. Ken Coleman joins me here in just a few moments. And we'll be answering your questions with him for about 30 minutes. And that'll be the last hour of the Daveave ramsey show at this location and again you guys will get best ofs for the next couple of days and then we will fire up a new uh a new sound a new look a um new everything this coming monday um and this studio is no slouch it's an excellent excellent studio it's the sound quality here is good. It's got a good look on camera.

I've done interviews with every network sitting here by fiber at this same desk. Good Morning America, The Today Show, Fox & Friends, just about every week for years we did that. CBS, we've done those guys from here lots of cnn from here sometimes driving back down here uh to do a cnn hit at nine o'clock at night ten o'clock at night those kinds of things larry king show back in the day from here um as a guest and uh all kinds of different things so that's uh you know that all stays behind here and yet it all goes forward with us as well so um good times good times and uh thank you to all of you uh for everything you've done during that during that 17 years and how you've interacted with us we appreciate you hanging around with us and putting up with us open phones phones this hour. Again, Ken Coleman, Ramsey personality and career expert, host of the Ken Coleman Show,

joins us here in just a few moments, and we'll be answering your questions about career and about money for the next 30 minutes after that, and then we'll move forward and wrap up this last hour in this location after that. So Ken is the host of The Ken Coleman Show. It's broadcast every day on Sirius XM and on about 40 radio stations across America. We just started syndicating the show about two months ago to radio stations all over America and already got a bunch of them carrying the show. And of course, it's in podcast form as well.

And so you can make that happen. He's one of our speakers at the Sacramento Smart Conference that is coming up November the 16th. And, you know, one of the lineup of that, of the experts of the different areas of your life that we always feature at that thing. That'll be Meg Meeker and Dr. Les Parrott on marriage. Meg on parenting. Ken on career.

You know, John O'Leary will be with us, one of the best motivational speakers in America today. Just an incredible story. Chris Hogan, of course, will be there talking about millionaires. Anthony O'Neill will be there talking about teens and money and what your teenagers are thinking today. He and Meg got the parenting thing cornered down. And I'll wrap up the day there in Sacramento.

So make plans to come out November the 16th, and you can see Ken Coleman there. He's author of the number one best-selling book, The Proximity Principle. And you want to be sure you have a copy of that if you're thinking about changing your career. So career questions at 888-825-5225. And we'll take your money questions as well.

Several of those on hold. We're not going to dump you. We're going to stick with you. This is The Dave Ramsey Show. Are high health care costs getting you down? Are you confused trying to navigate your options? Do you wish you could find an affordable, biblical solution to your health care costs? Based on New Testament principles, Christian Health Care Ministries, or CHM, helps Christian families, churches, and ministries join together as the body of Christ to share their major health care costs.

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Good to be here, Dave. Thanks for having me. You just sit around on the radio all day now, don't you? I tell you, it's a lot of fun. Between this show and your show and the podcast, you're busy. We are broadcasting a lot. And what's fun about it is we're helping people every time. That's the fun part about it. Good stuff. The book is The Proxim is the proximity principle number one bestseller the proven strategy that will lead to the career you love we're going to take career questions for ken

in the next 30 minutes the phone number is 888-825-5225. Brock is in Phoenix. Hey, Brock, welcome to the Dave Ramsey Show. Hey, Dave, how are you doing today? Better than I deserve. Your question for Ken. Good. So I'm starting flight school next month, actually, to become an airline pilot. And I'm just kind of wondering what would be the best way to go through that

without having too much debt and being able to make a connection to get with the airline that I want to work with. Okay. Well, we've got a debt question in there, and then we've got a proximity or a career question on how to get to that airline that you really want to get with. We don't want you going into debt at all. We'd prefer that you'd be saving up, that you'd cash flow your way through it. But as far as identifying that airline, and I'm guessing you have one or two in your mind that would be the top of the list for you? Yes, sir. All right. Well, as you're going through flight school, you actually need to use the proximity principle. And the way you do that in this situation is you want to actually begin to make real connections with people that work at those airlines.

And it's as simple as saying, hey, here's who I am going through flight school right now. This is what my itinerary looks like if everything goes on schedule. And I want to join this airline. And I'm looking for any great relationships that you have. And you're just learning about the culture. You're learning about how they hire. You want to learn about the organization because it's not just an airline. It is a company. And I'll just tell you this. Dave and I have had the privilege to get to know Gary Kelly, who's the CEO of Southwest Airlines. We're talking about a world-class organization, and it's a wonderful culture. And so you want to do that kind of homework. But then it's about getting around pilots because I'm going to tell you something. It is a who-you-know game

in the pilot play, you know, that industry, it's the same in any industry. Who you know. And when you come out of flight school, you want to be able to say, I've had some pilots from your airline mentor me through this process. I know them. They're recommending me. And that's what you need to do. That's how it works.

Exactly. Proximity principle means getting in proximity to the right people in the right places. In his case, people who are making decisions in the airline industry. Specifically, we want to start to meet people in those companies and then say, who's hiring pilots there? So you could start with, let's just take Southwest as an example. So let's say that he's got a friend whose mom works at Southwest. She's been there 20 years. Is she making decisions on hiring pilots?

No, she's not. But she's in the company, and she knows a lot of people in that company. So we want to meet with her and say, hey, who do you know within Southwest that knows somebody who's making decisions on hiring pilots? And this is just an exercise that may not yield something right away. But what it does, Dave, is it begins to create a habit of intentionality, because it takes one meeting for somebody to go, yeah, I'll introduce you to a pilot. He'll meet with you and give you his wisdom, his knowledge on how he got in, how he moved up, what to expect, what does it look like? Because many times, Dave, people fall off the path because they didn't know what was going to be involved in the journey and they drop off too

soon. So for a young man like this this some of the best advice he could get is sitting with a pilot who's been there and say how'd you get where you are today and to be able to understand what that climb really consists of because when you do that you're not so fearful and you're not so doubtful and fear and doubt dave those are the things that hold people back and knock them off the path deborah's in Birmingham. Hi, Debra. Welcome to the Dave Ramsey Show. Your question for Ken Coleman. All right, thank you.

I'm in somewhat the same field, actually. I had an opportunity. I'm going for a second career. I have actually retired and was going for a second one. And during my training, I found out the second week, if you will, that my dad had stage four cancer, and he passed away within two weeks. Wow. And, yes, it was really devastating for me. And I was trying to learn this new job and a brand new career, and actually it was an airline career.

And I just could not some of it i was able to do but other parts of it i just could not retain the information and i know it was because i was grieving um it was decided that um they were going to give me some more time but then as it happened i had to go ahead and try for the job i had not you know do know, did the job live, if you will. And I actually had never done the entire role play, if you will. So it was pretty much a panic attack. And needless to say, I pretty much flunked out of my training. They understood what I was going through.

And I had asked, you know, was there an opportunity maybe down the road to try for this again? And I just wanted to get some advice from you on how to approach this again. You know, maybe I'm going to give myself, you know, a few months again before I even attempt it. Right. I just wanted to know. So you said they understood. I know I'm capable. You said they understood. And you said that it was agreed that we would try this again later.

So the door's open, isn't it? Well, it is somewhat, but when I was going through the training, he had asked me the week my dad died if I would be able to go for the training out of state in two weeks. And I told him, I thought, I've got to be honest with you, I really don't think that I can do that, because what I'm going through right now, I mean, my dad had died on Monday, and he's asking me this on Wednesday. So I said, you know, I can't, you know, I'm not really here. So he said, well, we'll give you more time. I guess that's what I was trying to, well, we'll give you more time. I guess that's what I was trying to say.

We'll give you more time, but yet that same two weeks, that's when the test came, if you will. So I essentially didn't get that time that I thought I was going to. So I'm, you know, a little very disappointed, let me just say. But as I said, it is a position that comes up periodically. So I just didn't know the best way to say, you know, hey, give me another chance if you will. It seems like you're doubting yourself, and I'm just curious, what are you doubting? Let's just name it real quick. What are you afraid to ask?

How are you afraid? I mean, what's going on? There's some fear you've called about today. What is it? Well, I think for me it is because it is a brand new um career that i have no previous experience about in at all that i do feel um like i'm trying to make too much out of it if you will well i think it sounds to me like you're doubting yourself because of this traumatic situation and you flunked out and and and let's just be honest

you're you're doubting yourself and i think you're asking should i try again and i think the answer is yes i think that you need to learn from okay where did i fail specifically what part of the test or the examination of the process did i flunk out on and just be as honest as you can how much of that was tied to the trauma and you not being all there versus, well, I'm going to have to get better in this area. And then I would ask myself, how can I get better prepared for the second time? I know very successful lawyers who took the law exam multiple times to be able to qualify to get into the school they wanted to get into. And so there's no shame

in trying again. And as Dave said, it sounds to me like the door is open. I would prepare a little extra, and I would take this opportunity again. I really would. And if you feel you have a little time. Give yourself what you said. She says she's going to give herself a little more time to heal before she goes back at it again. That's fine. It's understandable. No issue there.

But most people want to give you a second chance. That's right. And if you just ask for it in the right way. Humility. Look, if I were in your shoes, I'd be questioning whether i could do this or not frankly i question whether i can do it or not but i'm going to give it a shot and um that's right you know and you guys were merciful with me during a really tough time and so i'm asking for mercy one more time and that you let me let me jump in this training and i and i'm going to give it everything i got

and i'm going to become the best team member you've ever had. That's exactly right. And they'll do it. They will. And the experience issue. Don't worry about that. We're in an economy right now where companies want to train good people how to do it. Yep. Yep. There's a shortage of people who care.

There always has been. Yeah, I don't think that's an economic issue. Ken Coleman is with us. Ramsey personality. Author of the number one best-selling book, The Proximity Principle. For one more segment, answering your questions about your career. 888-825-5225. Ramsey personality and career expert Ken Coleman joining us this half hour. Author of the number one bestselling book, The Proximity Principle,

The Proven Strategy That Will Lead to the Career You Love. The phone number here, 888-825-5225. Ken will be speaking along with Dr. Les Parrott, Dr. Mick Meeker, John O'Leary, Chris Hogan, Anthony O'Neill, and me November the 16th at our day-long smart conference where you get smart about every area of your life, and that's in Sacramento. November the 16th in Sacramento. Still some tickets available for you, Sacramento.

Phone number is 888-22-PIECE to get your tickets or just go to DaveRamsey.com. Jerry is in Kansasansas city your question for ken coleman jerry i'm thank you first of all thank you for taking my call uh i'm incredibly blessed my only debt is my house i'm age 66 and my financial guy says it's okay to retire okay to go i don't really have anything that's pulling me into retirement. I don't have, I don't know, a passion that pulls me there, and I thought I might just listen and ask for direction. Yeah, so you're ready to quit doing what you're doing, though? Yeah. I'm not being pushed out. I could work longer if I wanted.

But there's times, you know, the vacation, like I'm on vacation now, and being on vacation just sounds like a good idea. Well, because it is. I mean, Jerry, you're living well. Congratulations, by the way, on being in a place where you can do what you're talking about. And I think this is really liberating for you right now. I want you to be excited about the uncertainty because I'm going to give you three basic questions that I want you to wrestle with. And they will help you clear up this idea of what would I do next now that I have the option to do it.

Three basic questions, and here they are, Jerry. The first one is, who do I most want to help? Everybody that calls into my show, every human being, longs to do work that matters, not just to themselves, but for the benefit of others. And so you need to ask the question, who is it that I most want to help? And in this exercise, try to come up with a person. What is their challenge? Who are they? Why are you drawn to them? That leads to the second question, and that is, what problem do I most want to solve? What problem kind of pulls at your heart? You see this problem with people and you say, boy, I really want to help that. That makes me

lean in naturally. And the third question is, what solution do I most want to provide? These three questions, Dave, are basically the same question, but it's a psychological trick that allows your brain to begin to notice things that it hasn't noticed before. And when you can begin to say, okay, these problems here, like I want to help people with their finances, or I want to help people with their nutrition and exercise, whatever it is for our listening audience, when you begin to be able to answer those three questions, now all of a sudden you see what your heart is really longing to do. And in that situation, now you get to say, okay, how do I best do that?

A surprising number of people invent things when they ask those questions, especially in their 60s. That's exactly right. They invent things. That's right. I mean, Colonel Sanders invented Kentucky Fried Chicken. That's right. And he was in his 70s.

Yeah. Well, there's something to be said there. There's a lot of experience. So let's take Jerry, 66 years of age. He's lived a lot of life. We're talking about a lot of experience, and you've seen a lot of these stories. And those three questions allow the brain to focus and reveal things that you didn't know really were there. Let me give you an example. Our listening audience, Dave, all of them have been through the process of buying a car.

And there's something about it we know from psychology studies that when you buy a car, everybody begins to notice it on the roadways the same day, the ensuing week or month, and you didn't notice it before. And we usually say things like, wow, that car's everywhere. And you didn't notice it before, but why do you notice it now? Well, because your brain in a purchase of a car, there's a lot of decision making going into this. Is it the right car?

Do I like it? Is it the right price? All these things. And so your brain focuses so much on that car, it becomes a part of your psyche, and now you see it everywhere. So when you answer those three questions that I just gave Jerry, you'll begin to see those problems everywhere. You'll begin to see those people everywhere.

You'll begin to see those solutions. And then you go, well, wait a second. I've been a professional for 30-plus years, and here's how I can use my talents, what I do best, to do this work. And in a second career like this, it's really exciting. Three questions again. Who do I most want to help? What problem do I most want to solve?

What solution do I most want to provide? There it is. Lakeisha is with us in Williamsburg, Virginia. Hey, Lakeisha, how are you? Hi, Dave and Ken. So glad to be able to ask you this question today, Ken. I am currently an educator. I teach English, but I do have a 10-year track that I kind of want to set myself on.

At first, I wanted to get out of education because I didn't see how I could grow in the field. But once I prayed to God and sought God, I kind of see myself maybe being a principal of a school, then later working in the Virginia Department of Education some kind of way, and then hopefully getting into the U.S. Department of Education. I want to try to get into the U.S. Department of Education and kind of work in the faith-based partnership in the U.S. Department of Education. I want to work with bringing those things back into the education field, but also working in partnerships. I am a minister as well. I travel and preach the gospel. But I want to know how do I set myself on that track.

Are there some things that I can do now as a teacher? I will need to go back to school, which from learning from you, I will cash flow my education the next go-round. But is there some things that I need to go back to school, which from learning from you, I will cash flow my education the next go around. But is there some things that I need to do? Is that track realistic as a 10-year goal? What are the things that I need to kind of work on now to make sure I'm steady on that track? Well, you've got a really nice track. Now you know that you're going to need that additional education requirement to get into that essentially bureaucracy down the road so you know that.

The other thing I would ask is you need to make sure that you know if you can move from the principal level to the state education, the Virginia Department of Education, or to the federal government. Do you need that principal thing on your resume, that experience as a principal, or can you just get that continuing education, that next level, and then get involved that way? Because I like that move, because if you ultimately want to be in that bureaucracy of education, then I'd like to see you make that move after you get that qualifying education that you just mentioned, and then use the proximity principle.

Start talking to people in the state education department. Do they know anybody that works in the federal department? Who do you know? You're going to have to turn over some rocks here. This is intentionality. It's like a treasure hunt, but if you work at it long enough, you'll find a connection where you can talk to somebody and verify what the path looks like to move from your current educator role into the U.S. Department of Education. Now, I also heard a hint of something that I want to address, because you love preaching, and that's a big part of who you are in ministry, and you're trying to figure out, how do I do both?

Really look into that, because I heard you say, well, I want to kind of bring that back. Well, I'm a little bit nervous, to be frank, that you're going to be able to do that at the level that you might think you could do it in the Federal Department of Education. So do some more homework there, because there might be a way for you on the state and local level as a principal or maybe in county education, the county education department, to be an educator and lead and promote some values-based education, but then maybe make that ministry thing on the side. Just look into that so that you're not disappointed, because, Dave, I'll just be frank with you, you know, we're just in a situation in America where it's becoming increasingly difficult to live your faith publicly in the public square. And so I wanted to look into that and make sure that is the ultimate destination.

It's the politically correct yeah come after you in the public square but if you try to do it in a government situation you've got um i mean there's lots of laws and regulation that are going to hamper you not just not just simple that's right uh haters it's not just that simple but she has a great path she ultimately wants is a very good path very nice path and that's path. And that's all doable. It's very doable. It's just a matter of what track, I mean, what pace you want to do this on. How fast do you want to stride through these goals?

And here's the practical thing for you listening at home. She now knows what she has to do. So how much is that going to cost her financially? How long will that take based on her financial realities? That's how you put a plan together. Know, oh, this is doable. This is about how long it'll take. Yeah, very good stuff.

Ken, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Ken Coleman, Ramsey Personality, author of the number one bestselling book, The Proximity Principle. Check it out if you want to talk about careers. This is the Dave Ramsey Show. We'll be right back. Our Scripture of the Day, Hebrews 12, 11. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful.

Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it. Theodore Roosevelt said, Do what you can with what you have where you are. And that's what we've always done. We've done what we could with what we had where we are. In 1992, a friend of mine called me named Roy Matlock Jr. and said, the guy you've been doing his radio show as a guest just quit.

We ought to go down there and do that radio show. Who knows, you might even sell some of that as a guest. Just quit. We ought to go down there and do that radio show. Who knows? You might even sell some of that stupid little book you wrote, Financial Peace. I was carrying it around the trunk of my car at the time. And I said, I don't really want to do radio. There's no money in radio. I need to feed my family. We're broke.

And radio is all about ego and no money, and I don't want to do it. I don't have time. And he said, well, we'll go down there. He said, you can do it a couple days a week. I'll do it a couple days a week. So we talked the radio station into letting us take that one-hour show and do it for free. And we told David Hollywood Manning that if we're really bad, you can cut our pay in half, since he wasn't paying us anything at all.

We went on the air, and it was bad. We were bad. Two country fried, WWTN. It was awful. It was Barnyard Radio. And the radio station was in bankruptcy, so there was a bunch of characters on the air at the time, a bunch of us back then. And, I mean, there was all kinds of characters on the air at the time, a bunch of us back then.

And, I mean, there was all kinds of stuff going on behind the scenes. It was like WKRP in Cincinnati, except it was real and worse. Stuff went on in that building that you shouldn't have. It was amazing. That little studio was on Music Row. Later, David Manning left, and another guy took over while it was still in bankruptcy and moved us on to West End into the top of a tower up on top of a building there. It was bought out of bankruptcy by Gaylord,

and we figured that we were dead meat that they were taking it to country music because Gaylord owns the Grand Ole Opry and owned the radio station that owns the Grand Ole Opry and owned the radio station that carried the Grand Ole Opry and local country FM-er that was a big dog as well. And we figured we were dead meat. And Gaylord actually did a little bit of research and found that we had listeners. We didn't know we had listeners. We knew we had callers, but we didn't know we had listeners. And the show, callers, but we didn't know we had listeners. And the show, it turns out, had become popular over the two or three years we'd been doing it.

We started syndicating the show, and we got a station to carry the show in Russellville, Kentucky, one in East Tennessee just outside of Knoxville in Clinton, Tennessee. And then we picked up Spokane, Washington. Who knows why we jumped from Nashville to Spokane. But anybody that said they'd carry the show, we put it up on satellite. We wanted them to carry the show. And we cleared Las Vegas. That lasted for about 10 minutes, and they fired us.

And we cleared Jackson, Tennessee, who's still with us. Jackson, Tennessee is our longest-running radio affiliate affiliate they've been with us longer than anyone uh the others have gone by the wayside over the years or we've changed stations in their city over the years uh and roy later quit as we started syndicating the show uh he's been gone many many many years and um we changed the name a few years later to the Dave Ramsey Show. We were driving back and forth from south Nashville, where the show was, or where our offices were, to Opryland area. So it was about a 40-minute drive every day to do the show. So finally we built a little dinky butt studio in our offices.

It was not even soundproof we took a closet and cut a hole in the wall put a piece of glass in it a little piece of plexiglass in it took two closets back to back one of them was a little larger than the other one that one the control room closet was very small and so blake thompson stood in there there was barely room for two people to get in that room and then i was sitting at a round table that we bought at staples one of those press board tables with for micah and we bought it from the back corner the scratch and dent corner for ten dollars drilled two holes in it stuck microphone stands in it it was on the radio you couldn't see it so it didn't matter what it looked like but it didn't even sound good but it was but we didn't

have to drive 40 minutes and we now had our own studio. We moved down the hall in that building and built a pretty decent studio a couple years later after we finally started making a little bit of money. And then we moved to this building 17 years ago. So of the 30 years, that brings you up to date. And so in 2002, we moved into this building that we're in. Later purchased the building. We had an option to buy it and bought it. Renamed it Financial Peace Plaza.

There were 59 of us when we moved into this building. Today, there's just under 900 of us in the Ramsey team. The building's, of course, been renovated. The studio here that I'm sitting in has seen 17 years of your calls. It's seen a Fox Business TV show come and go. It's seen fiber feeds where I did Fox and Friends on Wednesday mornings, every Wednesday morning for years. I've done lots of Fox and Friends since then lots of other fox cavuto used to come on and dirt cavuto shows live when our show's live on uh fox business and um so he

would you know i would join him in the middle of his show into a segment uh live radio live tv overlapping it was really a technical nightmare and really screwed up most days when we did it it didn't work we just all end up yelling at each other after we got off the air because it's so tv overlapping it was really a technical nightmare and really screwed up most days when we did it it didn't work we just all end up yelling at each other after we get off the air because it's so freaking frustrating uh but cavuto of course became a good friend over the years a lot of these guys have at these different places that we fed fiber from the studio to fiber lines in order to deliver a television signal and um very very cool stuff but most of the time whether i had the flu or well that didn't feel good or whether i was tired from the road or whether i was feeling really good um whether i was in good shape or bad shape whether i had a

good attitude or a bad attitude every day i walk in here after praying and sit down at this desk for 17 years and put this microphone on over my head and a headset on and answer your questions for three hours and it's become the rhythm of my life uh you know one o'clock is when the show central time is when we start broadcasting the show live. Some of your radio stations carry it live. Some of them don't. Some of you listen by podcast, which is, of course, not live. Some of you watch on Facebook and on YouTube, which is, of course, a live stream now. Some of you watch on our app, the Dave Ramsey Show app, and lots of different ways you get it.

But today, this hour, hour this moment is the last time we'll broadcast from this studio the next couple days you're going to get best ofs and then monday we will start broadcasting from our new building our new location a couple of exits south of here we want you to come visit we're very proud of it it's beautiful it is uh airtight solid technical uh wonderful technical situation we have two studios on the glass so you'll see people like ken coleman or chris hogan or rachel cruz or christy wright or anthony o'neill doing their podcast uh or doing their radio shows or even sometimes doing a tv show from the glass in those studios when you're in our lobby. We also have downstairs in that building two full television studios and seven podcast studios

to be able to continue to grow these messages and grow the Ramsey personalities and do those kinds of things. But I'll still be on the glass three hours a day. So come visit. Beginning in August, we'll open up the place and you can come in and be seen in a couple of weeks. It'll be ready to have visitors and you can come in and walk through and see some of the history of the whole movement, but also get to watch the show. And we've got a new cafe there called the Baker Street Cafe upstairs with free cookies and free coffee like we've always had.

So the traditions continue. The principles continue. The process continues at a new location. But today is our last day at this particular location. A lot of good stuff's happened here, so it's bittersweet for us. Excited about the new car, but you've got to trade the old one in to get the new one. That's how that works. Good times.

Our thanks to James Childs, our producer, Kelly Daniel, our associate producer. They've sat across the glass from this studio for the last time now. Good times. Moving on to the next class. We'll be back with you before you know it. In the meantime, remember, there's ultimately only one way to financial peace, and that's to walk daily with the Prince of Peace, Christ Jesus. This is James Childs, producer of The Dave Ramsey Show.

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