The Ramsey Show - App - Listeners Share Their Work Fails! (Hour 1)

Episode Date: April 1, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, broadcasting from the Dollar Car Rental Studio, this is The Ramsey Show. It's where America's hanging out. To have a conversation about life. That's right, the whole picture. We're talking money. We're talking your work. We're talking your dreams.
Starting point is 00:00:41 We're talking your relationships. And I'm thrilled to be with you along with my colleague. I am Ken Coleman, host of The Ken Coleman Show, a part of the Ramsey Network. And my colleague, Dr. John Deloney, host of The Dr. John Deloney Show. You can tell that we put hours and hours and hours and cents into those names. They're very creative, John. There is nothing more uncomfortable for me. That's not true. There's several uncomfortable things for me.
Starting point is 00:01:02 But one of them is constantly having to refer to yourself in the third person. Right. Welcome to the Ken Coleman Show. Welcome to the Dr. John Delaney Show. But see, you've got a little extra thing in front of you, the doctor part. Yeah, that just makes it more pretentious? Infinitely so.
Starting point is 00:01:17 No. And it just makes it a tongue twister. And it's legit. But I know two other Dr. Delaneys, my mom and my wife. Yeah. And they're way smarter than me. It just doesn't sound that cool. But I'll take other Dr. Delonis, my mom and my wife. Yeah. And they're way smarter than me. It just doesn't sound that cool. But I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:01:27 But it'd be cool if the show was called, like, I don't know. Yeah. Well, that ship has sailed. It has. It has sailed. So we're here to help you. We'll talk about your money. We'll talk about your life.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Let me tee this up. Every time John and I are together, we love to take on toxicity and work. Because I'm focusing on that topic from time to time on the ken coleman show because people are unhappy in their work many times john just because of their leadership above them or co-workers and toxicity can take someone right out of feeling let's say it's their dream job and it can become a nightmare within a matter of weeks when you're in a toxic environment uh and then we also take on hey relationship stuff relationship stuff around, hey, I feel like I'm supposed to do this. My spouse isn't on board. We take on a lot of that stuff. And we're going to,
Starting point is 00:02:10 of course, take on your money questions and everything else as well. So we want to help you win. And John and I are here to help you. Here's how we do it. You get to dial in. It's a toll-free number, 888-825-5225, 888-825-5225. Coming up next segment, John, we're going to have some fun. So on the Ken Coleman Show, every once in a while, we do some funny work fails. Because we humans need to laugh at ourselves. And then when we can't laugh at ourselves, the next best thing is to laugh at others. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And so you wouldn't believe some of the embarrassing and humiliating things that have happened at work. And the good news when you hear these stories, there's always recovery. So John has not heard these. Oh, man. I've got these in my hand here. I've got some of my own probably. I'll bet. So I'm going to share these, and everybody's going to love them.
Starting point is 00:02:57 We're going to have some fun today. So that's coming up next segment. But first, let's go to Knoxville, Tennessee, where Matt joins us. Matt, you're on the Ramsey Show. How can we help? Hey, how y'all doing? Well, we're having too much fun. What's going on with you?
Starting point is 00:03:11 So I'm in the process of having my first kid with my wife. Congratulations, man. Well, thank you, thank you. What do y'all reckon would be a good amount to save up for having your first one? A million dollars for diapers, at least. Yeah. And that only covers the first two years of their life. And then they get the pull-ups, and then it just never stops, I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I did not know that diapers were actually threaded with gold and have diamond bits, evidently, because they're a billion dollars. Yeah. All right, let's talk, Matt, practically. What is the out-of-pocket, if any, for the delivery, labor and delivery? Yeah, I have no clue. I've talked to different folks. One dude told me, he's like, yeah, we had our first bid. Our bill afterwards was like $10,000.
Starting point is 00:04:03 The other one dude's like well it's about two grand for me yeah but here's the problem you're talking to all the wrong dudes those two dudes probably aren't correct uh and they've probably juiced that number because they just think it's fun to share a urban legend and then third they don't they don't have your health care plan so you need to call your health care provider today. Because absence of details, John, what happens to the mind? It melts. We're both going to tell you, Matt, as two dads here, anything from this point forward that you go into this situation when it comes to the money not knowing is a decision to be ignorant about it. Don't do that to your wife.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Don't do that to yourself. Don't do that to this future kid. There will be a cash option. You can call your insurance agent or your insurance company and say, what is the cash option for the cost of this baby, assuming there's no fill in the blank. And then they should also be able to tell you your max out of pocket, the max of what it's going to cost. Figure all that stuff out, have it on a piece of paper so you know exactly what you're walking into. So there's your number there, Matt. That's your most important number that you need to get a hold of. So now you know the first part of this question. The second part of how much should we
Starting point is 00:05:11 save is I do think it's really wise for you guys to actually go online or you can go to a grocery store. It's much easier to go online and just look at, I mean, if your wife, she can talk to her mom, other ladies in her life that have had babies and you pick out, okay, I think I'm going to go with this brand of diaper. I need wipes. I need all the things. Get the list of all the things, and then go online and just do a budget. Just go, okay, per this, this, this, and this. And, again, you can talk to real ladies who have got kids in diapers,
Starting point is 00:05:40 and you can put together a really good idea of what a monthly expense is going to look like for diapers, food, wipes, all that stuff. This is scary for you just because you've not done your homework. So go do your homework, as John said, and then we've got real numbers, which means we can develop a real plan to save that money. And I think you'll find there's something about new parents because it's a baby and it's a human being that you've got to provide for and raise, John. It's like, and it's just really not the nightmare that it seems to be. That would be my take. No, I told somebody yesterday, it's the hardest, best thing you'll ever experience. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's the hardest, best thing in the world. Oh, man. And I tell hardest, best thing in the world. And I tell Matt, whatever your budget is, it's going to be wrong, so be graceful with yourself too. That's right. Our colleague Rachel Cruz says give yourself 90 days to just kind of figure this thing out. And then by then, kids are smoking and riding bikes and the whole thing changes again.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So it's just going to rotate. Be graceful with yourself. Do your planning as best you can up front and then go from there. You just horrified a bunch of expectant parents right now. They know. They know. Well, I will say this. I'm a slightly different stage than you.
Starting point is 00:06:55 15, 13, and 12. And let me just tell you something. It gets way more expensive. So let me just go ahead and fire that one out there for all of you. If you're worried about diapers and baby food, let me tell you. Kelly Daniels, she's back there shaking her head. Insurance and cars. Oh, I'm about ready to put a kid in a car.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And honestly, you're going to have to prescribe something for me. I don't know how I'm going to come into work and do what I'm supposed to do to help others when that kid is out on the highway. Knowing your child is driving a 2,000-pound missile down I-65. Yeah, let me just put it out there for the ramsey solutions tribe if i disappear for about three months later this year you know i'm on medical leave for stress and anxiety because i'm like dude that's a next level and i've not gotten there no i i've got one child who is already it's critiquing my driving like dad i think you should slow down and then i've got one child who is already critiquing my driving. Like, Dad, I think you should slow down.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And then I've got another one in the back going, faster, faster. So, yeah, I think every kid's going to be different. Yeah, yikes. But on one hand, I'm excited, you know, not to get up at 530 in the morning to take my kid to football workouts in the offseason, which is what I'm into right now. Which I guess I should also tell people, since we're putting qualifiers out there, if I just pass out right now during the show and head down,
Starting point is 00:08:08 don't be alarmed. John's got it. We'll go from there. I just need to sleep it off. It's been awful early. Alright, here's what we got. We're having fun. Here's the phone number to jump in. 888-825-5225. And coming up next, some hilarious work fails. You won't believe what people did in the
Starting point is 00:08:24 office and live to tell about it. Don't move. You're listening to The Ramsey Show. have you ever wondered how to save more money or pay off debt faster what about the right way to invest listen i've been there asking the same questions with no idea where to turn for answers. But here's the good news. You don't have to keep searching for answers. Ramsey Plus will guide you every step of the way so you always know what to do with money next. Ramsey Plus is our step-by-step plan that shows you how to get consistent small wins with money and even some big ones so you can see exactly how you're making progress.
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Starting point is 00:10:06 I'm Ramsey Personality and host of The Ken Coleman Show on The Ramsey Network. Ken Coleman joined by my fellow Ramsey Personality, Dr. John Deloney, host of The Dr. John Deloney Show on The Ramsey Solutions Network. That was a lot of our names. Yeah, got it all out there. I'm John. This is Ken. Yeah, well, you know, some people are tuning in going, hey, I thought Dave was on today.
Starting point is 00:10:26 No, not today. He's taking up croquet. He is turning into a croquet champion. As with anything, Dave likes to go all in. And so unbeknownst to me, there is croquet lessons. He is in the yard right now outside here. Right now, hammer in hand, really learning how to do it. We jest, folks.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Just kidding. Can you imagine, James? People are like, really learning how to do it. We jest, folks. Just kidding. Could you imagine, James? People are like, really? Dave Croquet? I'm not seeing it. Well, you're right. Sounds awfully liberal. I don't know that that would ever happen.
Starting point is 00:10:55 All right, so we're taking your calls. 888-825-5225. 888-825-5225. Now, we're going to take your money questions. That's what the Ramsey Show obviously has always been about. But as we expand on life topics, we're going to take on relationship questions, marriage questions, kid parenting, you know, the whole nine yards. And then we talk about work. Hey, Ken, I want to make more money.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I want to get promoted. I want to move up the ladder because I'm working the baby steps, and I need a bigger shovel. I'm your guy. Dare I say I'm the big shovel guy, even though in real life you'd never see me with a bigger shovel. I'm your guy. Dare I say I'm the big shovel guy, even though in real life you'd never see me with a real shovel. I had a shovel at my property yesterday, but in here, you're the big shovel guy. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And then John and I like to team up on, hey, I'm struggling at work. Don't know how to handle this difficult boss or coworker. Toxicity. That's where John is a psychologist and trained counselor. I mean, he jumps in as well. So we love those calls together. But what we thought we would do is have a little fun on the Ramsey Show today with funny work fails.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So James and Kelly have not even seen these, and John hasn't either. So this is really fun. Here we go. This comes in from Ben. He put this out on Twitter. He said, first day of the job in an educational reference library that was located in an old elementary school hall with floor-to-ceiling windows. I couldn't see my computer screen due to the sun, so I tried to pull the heavy-duty curtains closed. When I did, the entire set of curtains came down, including the guy on the stepladder who had just finished hanging
Starting point is 00:12:27 them. Now, first day. First day, dude. Unbeknownst to Ben, when he goes to close the curtains, there's a dude over there on a ladder whose whole job is to make sure the facilities are done properly. Like, everything's right. And he pulls the curtains down and he looks over. It's not only embarrassing, we've got our workers' comp situation going on, right?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Somebody's in the hospital. Yes. Who's the new guy that just brought the entire room of curtains down? So the moral of the story is don't touch anything when you go to work on your first day, right? I think that is. Just get through the day. And I'm going to expand that. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Don't touch anything. Even on your second or your 22nd or your 222nd day, when it comes to those kind of things that you're not gifted in, you're not quite sure about, go ahead and ask the facilities guy about it. Don't start moving giant curtains. Look for the guy on the ladder. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Look for the guy on the ladder. I think Ben might have been really focused on getting those curtains closed. So there you go. Next one. Rachel wrote this in on Facebook. She said, I was working at a law firm. Oh, boy. You're going to love.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I can't wait for your comments on this. Go for it. I was working at a law firm, and I was incredibly bored. The only way I could make the time pass during the day was by talking to myself, pretending that I was a guest on a late-night show. One day, Kelly, you're not even ready for this. My boss came into my office hysterically laughing because he had a security camera directly on me and had seen my entire fake conversation. Lots of layers on this one. First of all, she's initially embarrassed because here she's in.
Starting point is 00:14:00 She's basically doing a Jimmy Kimmel interview of herself. Alone. Okay. So the boss comes in laughing at her. Lots of embarrassment. But then how long before she got creeped out that there was a security camera pointed directly at her? And the boss was watching her. Was watching it, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Listen. So that becomes number two. Number one, don't touch anything at work. Just don't. Number two, keep all the little voices in your head to yourself. Number three, don't work for a leader who's got a security camera trained on you. I'm not sure. What do you think about that, James?
Starting point is 00:14:34 James has cameras on us right now. James has cameras on us, but that's different. That's because of YouTube. Yeah, there are eight cameras pointing at us all right. There's James right now. He loves being on camera. Fantastic. Okay, so the real question here, Ken, is have you ever done a pretend interview for an interview show?
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yes. When I was a kid, because I always kind of wanted to do what I'm doing in broadcasting, and it took me a while to figure out it was really the thing. Yeah. But yeah, but not at work. Because the it was really the thing yeah but yeah but not at work because the real moral of the story here is the reason i share these fails right this one is ken coleman show ground zero yeah it's like don't take a job and stay in a job where you're so bored you go into imagination land it's just that's just not helping anybody you're not even
Starting point is 00:15:20 doing your job all right here we go This is my personal favorite, folks. And by the way, this is the one that I would do. If I was going to have a big work fail on this list, this is the one. My allergy medication, this is from Angela who writes it on Instagram. My allergy medication and my Ambien
Starting point is 00:15:39 were both in the same size bottle, both of them white tablets. On the first week of a new job, first thing in the morning, I reached in my purse at my desk, opened the bottle, and swallowed the pill. And about a minute later, I realized I had swallowed the Ambien, not the allergy medicine. I don't remember much. Except waking up, famous last words. I don't remember much except Except waking up. Famous last words.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I don't remember much except waking up in the company meditation room. Four hours later, the secretary said I came running to her desk and said, over and over, I've overdosed and I need to go home. First of all, you took an Ambien. You didn't overdose. No. Imagine what that poor secretary was thinking. She didn't call the ambulance.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Is there a meditation space here at Ramsey Solutions? I don't believe there is. I knew you were going to lock in on the meditation room. This awesome secretary, you talk about teammate of the year award. Just directed her quietly. She took away my car keys and led me to the meditation room. That's a good woman right there. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:16:46 That's a good human being. Four hours later, you wake up. Company meditation room. First week on the job. But that's an extra... Admins run everything. They are very important people. And a great admin will save you from your own embarrassment.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yes. And then when you come back, they'll just hand you your keys. I mean, seriously, the moral of the story is be really, really kind to the admin people. Because they save your bacon. And put a big... Just don't take Ambien. How about that?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah. Oh, don't take your Ambien to work. Shouldn't even have been in the purse. No. All right, here we go. Now, that was the one that I think would most likely happen to me. I think this is the one that might most likely happen to you. We'll see what you say.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Okay. I tried to tell a co... This is from Marla, also on Instagram. I tried to tell a co-worker hello one morning when I was walking in, but it came out as howl, as in like a dog howls. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:37 It's like, how you doing? Hello is what I think she was trying to say, James. And she looks at the guy. They walk at each other, and she goes, Howl, this is the best part. He misheard me and thought I had meowed at him to which he politely meowed back it was a disaster from the beginning and she doesn't say anything more so so listen Ken I want to analyze this one about what you would do in this situation well so
Starting point is 00:18:03 the other day I'm walking in. See, I knew this could be you. I was walking in and there was Brad and one other person. They were walking. We have walking trails here at Rim Solutions. We are having walking meetings out here. I could have gone with, hey, good morning, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I could have gone with, hey, everybody. And I went with, oh, I made some weird, like, woo-hoo. And then I stopped. And I was like, guys, that was so weird and uncalled for. Unnecessary that I. Because it's not like they were 100 yards away. No. They were like face-to-face.
Starting point is 00:18:40 They were 10 yards from me, and suddenly I transported myself to some Wyoming cowboy event. I don't know what I was doing. It was so bizarre and frustrating. If that happens to me, Kelly, I got to tell you, I need to stop and address it right then and there. This gal kept going. Both of these people walk away. That's how it should be. The guy thinks that she meowed at him, so he goes, okay, I'm in.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I'll meow back at you. So now they both think that they've meowed at each other. We've got couples meowing at each other. You can't have that at the workplace. Right. That's why I've got to go, hey, I've got to tell you, I just tried to do this. It came out this. You meowed back.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm not sure what that was. That's what I said. Can we just start all over? I said, guys, I just made this weird, and I'm sorry. I didn't mean for it to be weird. I was just trying to be. Here's the good news. Even if you've had a workplace fail, you can recover.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Or you can get fired and go work somewhere else. Either way, you're going to wake up the next day. We'll help you get a different job. All right. Your calls. Phone lines are filling up. They're coming up next. I'm Ken Coleman.
Starting point is 00:19:38 He's Dr. John Deloney. And this is The Ramsey Show. The Ramsey Show continues from our Ramsey Solutions studios in Nashville. The phone number to jump in on the phone is 888-825-5225. That's 888-825-5225. I'm Ken Coleman, joined by my colleague, Dr. John Deloney, and we are with you this hour taking your calls about life, money, work, relationships. You want to move up? You want to have a healthy relationship with your spouse, your kids?
Starting point is 00:20:22 We're going to dive in on all of that. But first, blinds.com's 100% satisfaction guarantee means even if you mismeasure or pick the wrong color, which I would do both, John. Correct. They'll remake your blinds for free. Or if you just start a new job and you pull the string and the whole thing comes down on top of you
Starting point is 00:20:38 and you've got to get some more. Yeah, that's it too. You get free samples, free shipping, and with the new promos they run every month, you'll save even more. Use the promo code RAMSEY to get the best deal, rules, and restrictions apply. Today's question comes from David in Georgia. I'm 32 years old, and I'm on baby step seven.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Whoa! Way to go, David. I've been disciplined and intense with money since I was 18 years old. I am feeling very, all caps, discouraged, knowing that I'm fighting this whole thing single-handedly, how can I be intentional about meeting someone to marry? Oh, David wants to get hitched. That's a loaded question that we could literally take a full show to answer.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah, I would love to talk to David here. Sometimes people get so intense about goals and objectives, they then want to use that same energy and model for human connection. And anytime a person becomes a goal or a strategy or an objective, you've devalued that relationship. And that's not somebody who has any business marrying you. And you shouldn't marry them. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Right? So for somebody who is hyper goal-driven, hyper outcome-focused, human relationships are going to be challenging. Right? What do you think, Ken? Well, the question is, how can I be intentional about meeting someone to marry?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Put yourself in situations where you're going to meet people. So I wrote this book called The Proximity Principle that had nothing to do with marriage, but it applies here as well. The Proximity Principle that had nothing to do with marriage, but it applies here as well. The Proximity Principle came from the show when I just started giving people advice on how to get where they want to go. And it simply says this, in order to do what you want to do, you've got to be around people that are doing that
Starting point is 00:22:15 in places where it is happening. So if you want to get intentional about meeting people to marry, you start going, what's the type of woman I want to marry? Don't turn it into a giant checklist like John's saying. However, you can say, hey, I want to meet this type of woman who maybe has these values. And guess what? Once we have a general idea of what we're looking for in a life mate, then we know where those people are. See, I want to start doing that.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And we start doing that. Before that, I want him to – I love the idea of proximity. I want him just to start hanging out with people. Well, I think he probably is. You think so? Yeah, it's hard to read into this question. Here's my point. You want to meet women, then where are those type of women?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, it's like, here's one idea. Just be a normal human being and hang out with other people in groups. I think that's what you're saying. And then if you see a woman that is attractive to you, you be a gentleman and you ask them out. And if she says no, don't go back to your cave and suck your thumb. Do it again. And eventually someone will say yes and then be a gentleman. And keep doing it until finally, John, the light bulb goes off.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Let's not overthink this. How do I be intentional to meet somebody? Be intentional. Meet women. off let's not overthink this how do i be intentional to meet somebody be intentional meet women don't be a creeper and uh be clear on what you think you want your wife to uh be like sound like act like whatever you just have to be a person that other people want to be in partnership with be Be a person who shows up and is safe and is kind and treats people with dignity and is respectful. Be a person that someone wants to connect with.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And David, you know what? I'm feeling this. This is a little bonus advice. What's the bonus? I'm reading into this. We've got to be fair, folks. We have limited information here. It's not a caller.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I think David needs to be careful on date number one not to do a full expose on these gals' finances. He's intense. Yeah, don't talk about your money, man. Yeah, chill out on the money right now because you're in baby step seven. You're in good shape. You can do this. But does it make sense what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:18 Eventually talk about it. If he meets somebody and asks them out, and the goal of this is not to get to know somebody, to hang out and to have some laughs, to learn about somebody. The goal is to begin running the algorithm of this person's marriage material. Yes, not a good idea. No, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 No, you're going to scare girls. You're going to melt people. Yeah. And your VARY that you put here in all caps is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. Your discouragement is going to get more frustrating. Meet people for the sake of meeting people. Be with people for the sake of being people. And from that, you'll develop relationships with folks that will turn into something bigger and better than that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah. And you know what? Go read some books on, some older classic books on what it means to be a gentleman. If I was going to give advice to any young dude these days, I'd go, you know what? I don't care what the world's telling you. I don't care what culture has become. I'm telling you, be a gentleman. What does that mean? To me? Yeah. Well, when it relates to relating to women, it's first and foremost, you may be attracted to them, but you still must respect them. Treat them.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Open their car door. Listen to them. Value them. Don't just be attracted to them. They're not an object. They are a beautiful part of this world. And so being a gentleman is kind, respectful,
Starting point is 00:25:30 thoughtful, not selfish with women in every aspect. I'll just leave it at that. I think it's pretty obvious. But I think it's obvious. I don't know that a lot of young 20-somethings think about what it means to be a gentleman and how you treat women.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I love it. A lot of the garbage that's going on in the world, even if you're unhealthy, but if you go, you know what, I've got to be a gentleman. I've got to be a gentleman. Like dads, if we were teaching our boys to be gentlemen, a lot of the stuff going on between the sexes would not be as gross. If we were just saying, this is the standard. I'm going to be a gentleman it starts um with young people watching their parents treat each
Starting point is 00:26:12 other right that's right and talk to each other with dignity and treat each other with respect and not throwing temper tantrums yeah adults throw temper tantrums and treating each other with yeah with utmost dignity and respect and And kids learn by watching, man. Yeah, yeah. But we have long since gotten over the art form of just teaching manners and just how do you just treat people. So I know I'm old school in it right now, but there it is. I'm old school too.
Starting point is 00:26:35 All right, here we go, 888-825-5225. Let's go to Green Bay, Wisconsin, where Bridget is on the line. Bridget, you're on the Ramsey Show. Hey, Ken and Dr. D. It's nice to speak with you today. Well, it's our thrill to talk to you. What's up? Well, I am calling.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I am a newly divorced mom of five kids, all 10 and under. Oh, my goodness. Whoa. Including one with special needs. Oh, wow, Bridget. That's a lot, a lot. It's a lot, a lot. I've been out of the workforce for about 11 years now, raising my kids. I'm in a stable financial position, praise be God, because my husband is a physician,
Starting point is 00:27:21 and so he is able to support me to be able to stay home a little bit longer with the kids. But I know that that's just a short-term solution to a long-term problem. So I'm really looking to be proactive at this point about figuring out what the next step looks for me. Through this very painful divorce process, my confidence has really been shaken. I do have sole custody of my kids. He has them one weekend a month. And so, you know, with five, there's before school costs, there's after school costs, there so, you know, with five, there's before school costs, there's after school costs, there's, you know, my youngest is not even two yet. So there's going to be daycare costs. And so I'm really just trying to figure out, you know, how do I figure out what my passion is at this point or what my sweet spot is? I have some ideas, but practically, how do I get there when I need to make a certain
Starting point is 00:28:08 income for it to even make sense for me to go back to work because of the child care costs and or the time restrictions I have being a single parent of so many little people? Yeah. Okay. So here's what we're going to do, Bridget. We're about a minute away from going to commercial break, but we're going to hold you over but i want john just to give you a minute pep talk on the confidence fact because this is this is really key yeah to get this part and then i'm going to come back from the break and i'll help you on the other john coach you're up um how how long ago is this divorce i we finalized june of 2020 um i knew things were going south about four months after our youngest was born, and I was asked for a divorce in November of 19. So this is something that has been brewing and rattling
Starting point is 00:28:53 around for several years, right? Yes and no. I mean, I felt very blindsided. Yeah, the blindside, that hurts, that hurts. Stay tuned. We're going to talk about all this right when we come back. All right, Bridget, don't move. This is The Ramsey Show. Thank you. Thanks for joining us here on The Ramsey Show. I'm Ken Coleman, joined by my colleague, Dr. John Deloney. We're Ramsey Personalities. We also host our own shows, of course, on the Ramsey Solutions Network. And we are taking you through this hour of the Ramsey Show.
Starting point is 00:30:07 888-825-5225. 888-825-5225. Let's talk life. What do you got? We're here for you. Now, before we went to break, we had just taken Bridget, who is in Green Bay, Wisconsin. And she's a single mom of five, just recently divorced. Confidence is low, understandably. And now she's looking single mom of five, just recently divorced. Confidence is low,
Starting point is 00:30:25 understandably. And now she's looking to reenter the workforce, been out of work for 11 years. All right. And so, John, you're going to coach her up a little bit on that confidence thing. And then she wants to walk through. She thinks she knows a little bit about what her sweet spot is, but how do we translate that into options and then opportunities? And so we go back to Bridget now. Bridget, I'm going to let John pick it back up here and talk to you about that confidence. So Bridget, you have been out for 11 years. You were blindsided by this divorce, and it's been about a year or about half a year since it's been finalized.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Is that about right? That's right. And so when you are picturing, I know you're a mom of five, which means you can just pretty much do anything, and you're the mother of a special needs kid, which means you're a bulldog too. You can get it done, and there's a math problem here, right?
Starting point is 00:31:18 You can look at the math, here's what I'm going to have to do. You said all the right things. It's a short-term solution, a long-term problem. You know all that stuff. But when it's, the kids are all, five of those kids are in bed and everybody, the house gets quiet and you are starting to think about what tomorrow's going to look like.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Talk to me about what you feel. I mean, really, I think my day-to-day confidence, I'm very confident in myself as a mother, my ability to raise my kids. I think really a lot of confidence. And you've said this before, cause I do listen to your show a lot too, is, um, you know, I, I don't, you know, I do don't, or I do have trouble, um, trusting myself because there was an infidelity that I didn't see coming at all. The person I married was not the person I expected him to be. Why didn't I see all of this stuff? And then, you know, I have, you know, using Ken's materials, I have had a few interviews even. But it always comes down to, you know, we just want somebody with more recent experience. Or because I'm from the marketing field, I was working 11 years ago before social media really was a big thing. And so, you know, I think there's also the confidence in the work aspect because of the feedback that I've been getting when I,
Starting point is 00:32:31 when I do get interviews. Right. So you nailed it on the head that the trust here that you've got to regain, you're going to have to regain trust in humanity and all that. The trust you've got to regain is in yourself. And what I want you to do on a daily basis is look at all of the little things you are able to accomplish and do. These are little steps. These are little things that you're going to say, I am literally wrangling five human beings.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I am able to navigate this messy school such under 10 for crying out loud. I've got two and I don't even know how you're doing what you're doing it's about slowly regaining trust in yourself and you're going to have to do it intentionally meaning you can't let a day go by that you don't reflect on the day at the things you were able to accomplish yeah that you don't go through a day that you don't reflect on the people you touched and impacted in positive ways and And over time, you're going to slowly see and slowly see. And then big time, and I'll pass it off to Ken,
Starting point is 00:33:28 you've got to have friends in your life that will speak truth to you. You can't see everything on your own, so you're going to have to have people that are reporting back to you, experiencing you and feeling you, and able to say, hey, you missed this one, or you didn't see how good of a job you did with this situation. All right, Bridget, here we go. And I'm blessed with a great support system, so at least I've got that.
Starting point is 00:33:47 That's huge. Okay, so Bridget, your real question, is it direction, the type of work that you want to do? Because you mentioned the sweet spot. For those people that are new to my content, that's where you use your talent, what you do best, to perform your passion. This is work that you really love. Think of a task, a role, a function. And then finally, you use that talent to do passion to accomplish mission. That's results that matter deeply to you. What are you sure of and what are you not sure of?
Starting point is 00:34:16 Well, you know, when I really sit down and look at it, definitely my passion is for people, helping people. I'm passionate about especially helping mothers. And I love beauty. my passion is for people helping people I'm passionate about, especially helping mothers. Um, and, um, I love beauty. I love, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:28 seeing a final product and seeing, you know, like I've, um, I brought a home and I've been slowly redoing the whole thing myself. And I love the before and afters and those types of things. Those are my passions. Um,
Starting point is 00:34:39 as far as what my, my, my strengths are, I'm really, I mean, really good at building relationships with people. I'm really good at being approachable, easy to talk to. I mean, I worked from anything from, you know, I grew up on a farm to million-dollar corporation owners in my former role. And so,
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm really good at connecting with people from all walks of life. I'm a phenomenal writer. I know that most of the jobs that I was interviewed for was for writing-type positions because that's also a strength. Is this recent? You were interviewing for writing positions recently? Yes. Okay. And what you're hearing is we want someone with a little bit more experience.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Not more experience, just recent experience because I've done a number of volunteer work in the last 11 years and done a touch of freelancing here and there. But you're really looking for somebody who is more current and especially with the digital stuff because I've been out for 11 years. Let me have some fun with you on this particular issue because I heard some different things in there. You gave us some other evidence. And you didn't mention in your talents that you're creative. And you are creative in your writing. But I also think you have a creative eye. Am I right about that? You've got a creative eye with decorating or restoring, things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Is that true or false? That's true. And I get good graphic design as well in my previous. I'm really good with visuals colors yeah you didn't mention that you didn't mention it specifically but i heard it so here's here's the fun that i'm talking about okay i want you to answer this question what would you do tomorrow if i just waved the old pencil in my hand and poof i gave you a job that you knew you could not fail at you knew you were going to be successful,
Starting point is 00:36:26 but you didn't have to just decide on that for the rest of your professional career. What would you try? I don't know if there's a job title for it, but I think what I would love to do is, I call it being a mentor mom and just helping moms to be better moms. So I love teaching.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I love training, especially adults. And I would love just to help with home management and home organization and, you know, schedules, because obviously juggling five kids, I have unique experiences in that. And I've, you know, helped with the mops organization and stuff like that. So let me give you, go ahead, keep going. I was going to say, you know, kind of, it would just be the whole gamut of, you know, making a house a home, really. Okay. It's something I love.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And then counseling is also something I've thought about, but going back to school with five kids. No, and here's the deal. That counseling thing is your attempt to give yourself some safe, well, this is a good job. You just answer the question. That's what you would go for. And so we have to work towards that. Now, here's the challenge. You're financially stable right now,
Starting point is 00:37:30 but there's a time period by which you know I'm going to have to generate money. I want to make sure, and before we let you go, we'll make sure that Kelly gets you a membership at Ramsey Plus. I want to make sure that you're using our budget tools and everything to begin to plan to say, when will I have to make X amount of dollars? And I actually want you to get a day job. I want you to actually just get something that where, again, and I'm going to give you a copy of my book, The Proximity Principle, because you just got to reconnect with everybody you know. You've been out of the workforce for 11 years, but you haven't been out of life for 11 years. And we've got to stop
Starting point is 00:38:02 applying for things where people don't know Bridget. They're just like, oh, this is Bridget. We interview her. We go, oh, well, she hasn't written in 11 years. We're not going to take her. No, I want you in interviews that you've gotten because friends and family have said, hey, I know somebody over there. They're going to interview you based on our relationship credibility, and they're not going to dismiss you. They're going to hear how talented you are. But I want you to use the proximity principle. I'm going to give you the book. I want you to read it and do it exactly the way I write it. It'll help you step by step to get connected so you get jobs. So let's get yourself a day job that's paying you what you need to make to keep stability going that you addressed at the beginning of our phone call. That's step one. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Now, then I want you to launch on the side, and I know you got five kiddos, but I want you to start creating some content. Maybe it's on Instagram. Maybe it's on Facebook. Maybe it's both. Maybe it's volunteering at the local mops thing and showing up and giving a free talk and begin to coach women and give yourself away to women to help them be better moms. I think it's a side hustle that eventually becomes, John, her full-time gig. That Saturday a month when the kids are with Dad. You're all in. You're going to have people over to your house. You're going to do seminars.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yes. Create content. Show your work. So hang on the line. We're going to get you in Ramsey Plus and get you a copy of The Proximity Principle. But, Bridget, I want you to hear this. You've got this. You've got this. You've got it.
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