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Caleb is with us.
Caleb is in Los Angeles.
Hi, Caleb.
Welcome to the Ramsey Show.
Hey, Christine, Dave.
How are you all doing?
Great.
What's going on?
Well, my question is about where I should put my cash now.
So I heard about your plan for years
and I finally just did it. My wife and three kids, we moved into my parents' barn on some acreage so
we could finally, you know, pay off the debt. Um, we did, we were in a loft, you know, every dime
that came in, went to the debt, just gazelle intense. And then we had the whole ladder,
you know, with the marker and then you mark it off, paint it off. And the very next morning we found out we were pregnant with twins.
Congratulations.
Oh, I'm so glad you're ready.
It's no, for real though.
Like you're right.
I mean, if I wouldn't have done that plan, you know, the stress of student loans, you
know, I went to film school, you know, it's gone now. So here's,
here's my issue. Um, I own my own business. Um, I'm in film production. Uh, so, you know,
irregular income, do you, I know the next baby step is pile, you know, three to six months living
expenses, et cetera. But I have heard other people in the film industry call you before.
And I remember you said something, something about something about you know get a much bigger buffer what what do you suggest for me right now my twins are due end of november and
we already have three kids under five so i'm looking for some advice well while you are you're
in baby step three anyway which a hundred percent of your spare dollars are going to build your
emergency fund right and so you know three to six months of expenses now you can go ahead and build up
you know six months of expenses and you can just keep building it past that until the twins come
if you want and then you'll just have some extra money beyond that uh aside from the twins aside
from the small kids just the irregular volatile income with a small business um or in an industry
like the film industry where it's um feast and famine i mean
you're either making bucks or you got nothing and so uh that we were in the real estate business
when we came up with this idea because we had the same thing we could have no money one month and
20 000 bucks the next month and so um right and so what we did uh it's a dumb name but i couldn't
think of anything else you think of a mountain and a valley, and the mountain is that big month, that wonderful month.
The valley is that horrible month, the valley of death, right, where you have no money.
And so we called it a hill and valley account.
So if we were in a valley month, we didn't have to hit the emergency fund.
We had a separate savings account to fill in for a horrible month of income in a volatile income situation.
Because that's not an emergency.
That's actually a predictable event.
Right, yeah.
And do you have a percentage, Dave, that you recommend for that?
No, I think what you look at is the volatility.
And the volatility creates two things.
One is actual arithmetic, and it also creates all this emotion.
You don't use the emotion to set the amount.
Because when you dig down into it, usually, you know, you feel like you have a $10,000 problem, and you might have a $2,000 problem.
Yeah.
And you go, look, my worst month, here's my worst possible month, and here's what we need to exist.
Well, you've got to cover the difference.
Right.
For two months.
Right.
And, you know, it might be $1,000 off, you know.
Yeah.
It might be $2,000 in your Hill and Valley account.
I wish I had a sophisticated – I'm horrible at naming stuff, but that's all we called it.
Because that's the only thing we could think to call it, because we wanted to separate it from the emergency fund,
because the emergency fund is for unexpected events.
This is expected.
We know this is going to come.
And so I think you build up your emergency fund first, and then you build your little
hill and valley account just going forward, regardless of twins and babies.
Do you have a question about that, Dave?
For businesses that are super seasonal like that, do you recommend they have a business
version of the hill and valley, or would you just use a retained earnings for that?
Retained earnings should be enough.
You should use that for that.
That's the purpose of retained earnings.
It's just to cover some seasonality, and you can adjust the retained earnings for that? Retained earnings should be enough. You should use that for that. That's the purpose of retained earnings. It's just to cover some seasonality,
and you can adjust your retained earnings based on your seasonality.
Like for years around here, our summers were slow
because live events are slow, publishing is down in the summer,
radio listenership is down in the summer typically,
and so our summers slowed down.
Now we've got a whole bunch of other product lines now that don't slow down.
So we don't notice it as much.
But we used to put some money aside to get ready for summer.
Yeah.
You know, Financial Peace University sales were down in, you know, July is way different than October.
Right.
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Today's question comes from Diane in Ohio.
I'm 61 and my husband is 58.
We are doing well financially and have no debt.
I'm currently a health coach for a health management company.
I'm tired of playing the corporate game and tired of being micromanaged.
I would really like to have my own practice coaching clients on healthy lifestyles, teaching
cooking classes, and controlling my own schedule.
I have no idea how to do this without leaving my current job and making no money at all
for a while.
What would my first steps be to start my own coaching business?
Well, I'm going to start with the assumption
that there's not a conflict of interest, non-compete, that type of thing, because she
wants to do what she's currently doing for this company. There's a little bit of gray area there
to me in terms of what she's able to do. But I would say for Diane, I want you to do this the
same way I would teach anyone to start a new thing. If you have a full-time thing, but you want to start something on the side, you start it on the side.
And you start by putting the information out there.
Maybe it's a Facebook post.
You email family and friends.
Hey, I'm going to start doing this.
You think about your pricing.
Do a little research, a little digging of what would your packages look like?
What would your services include?
How are you going to structure your services and your pricing and
so on and and you start to baby step into it brian is with us brian is in panama city hey brian how
are you okay so um my okay so my wife uh her parents they're they're they're very very nice people. They've done a lot for her growing up.
They're financially well off.
And, you know, since we became married, I feel like it's our responsibility to, you know,
kind of take, I guess, a handle on some of the things like her retirement,
health insurance, life insurance, those kinds of things.
Yeah.
Yeah, like grown-ups and stuff.
Yeah, right.
So her dad still has all that in his possession?
Yeah, her dad still has it in his possession,
and they're kind of, every time we discuss time we discuss finances and money and things like that,
they get all weird.
Yeah, well, let me get weird for you, okay?
Your wife needs to tell her dad to put the stuff into her name now.
How old are y'all, Brian?
Right.
I agree.
You don't. you can't say it
okay all right so that's where yeah i guess where i'm coming here um because you know i i would want
to approach anything whether you know i want it to be my place and i think when it has to do with
my wife you know we we um since we've been coming married, we combined our life down on the same page where it just became debt-free.
Yeah, but it's not your daddy.
It's her daddy.
And it's not your policies.
It's her policies right now.
It's her retirement.
Yeah.
And she needs to move.
It needs to be moved into her name now.
And she needs to call her dad and go, Dad, I understand a few months after March, but now it's August.
So I'm going to come over to the house and you're going to sign all the crap into my name now.
Now, you can be a little nicer than that, but that's the message.
These nice people.
They definitely will be nicer than that.
They have a lot of money and meanwhile are control freaks, dude.
And so, you know, your wife needs to, it's called leaving and cleaving.
But you can't do it.
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I want to go back to our last caller.
Okay.
We had a commercial bearing down on us.
Yep.
All right.
I'm 61. i have three grown
married children all have kids not 61 yet i'll be 61 in a couple weeks but close enough
um when your children get married you do not have the moral, ethical right to hold on to their stuff.
Period.
When they reach adulthood,
you do not have the moral, ethical right to hold on to their stuff and so example in our house would be
uh denise comes home from college and she sets up her own household within three months
moves in an apartment with some roommates eventually starts dating a guy gets married
but when they're engaged uh i look down and realize
there's a file here with mutual funds with her name on it there's the health insurance is still
running through us which is stupid this is like a grown woman right and she needs to pay her own
light bill she needs to check the date on her milk carton by herself uh and her mama don't need to do it yeah and her dad doesn't
need to hold her hand because he looks at her husband as a little boy yeah sorry folk you don't
have that option and when you do continue your helicopter parenting into their 20s you damage the relationship with them potentially
for the rest of your lives and you stunt their emotional growth because they're still freaking
little baby children because you didn't give them any grown-up stuff to do yeah god that pisses me off set them free the bible says to leave and cleave so you leave your mama
and take your stuff with you you know what i heard in that call too though i wish so bad she had
called because i heard in his voice he didn't want to talk to him he wasn't supposed to anyway but
even if he was he didn't want to he was bowed up he was ready to talk to him yeah but it was like
this nervousness like you could hear something like well i don't know they're not he started out with they were nice people
and i started laughing because i knew he was lying we both well we both did because we're
like but we're waiting for the butt where's the butt because the great canceler in a sentence
everything that comes before the word but means that those people are butts so then but i wish
we could have talked to her because i got the sense that she was not the type that wanted to
talk to them no she's been used to daddy taking care of her.
I know.
And here's the thing.
So then speak to that person.
Speak to the timid, the child, the adult child that's scared to talk to their parents.
Give them some help here.
Is your job as a 20, what was she, did he say he was 24?
Yeah, I think so.
She's 23, 25 probably, give or take.
I mean, be a grown up. Come come on put your big girl pants on and uh because the sooner you do that the the
the most one of the most rich times of our lives in our personal family is the current time where
i have adult to adult relationships with my children including my with my children, including my sons-in-law and my daughter-in-law.
And I thoroughly enjoy them as adults.
But that means that I have to, you know, Rachel and I have, I don't cross boundaries with her just like I don't with you.
And, you know, we're not kin.
We've been friends a long time.
We've been on our team a long time.
We've got a good relationship.
But there's things I can't tell you to do.
It's not my right.
And vice versa, by the way.
And the same thing is true with Rachel.
True.
And so we can talk about stuff.
We can argue about things.
We can discuss politics.
We can talk about life or religion or doctrine or whatever else.
But that's just on a friend-to-friend level, so to speak.
Yeah.
And it's the most rich time.
Some of our Ramsey dinners, because we're all loud and gregarious and fun people, are hilarious now.
But it's like a friend group having dinner
right not you know dad is holding court and you're all they're going to now listen to me
right they quit doing that a while back i'll just tell you what do you think what do you think's
going on in the dad in that scenario that wants to hold on to it what does he still see him as a as
a kid he likes the power control that's who i'm talking to is him because i'm
just he pisses me off because he's he's he's being a twerp he's trying to hold on to the past
and you know you walked her down the aisle you placed her hand in his hand dude you just gave
her away that's what they call that all right what if she's not married well she's 25 though
well the same thing except there's not a hand there's not leaving and cleaving it's not married. She's 25, though. Well, same thing, except there's not a hand. There's not a leaving and cleaving.
It's not a marital relationship, but they're still adults.
And so what you're doing is you're treating your 25-year-old like she's 13,
and guess what?
She's going to function like she's 13,
and then the rest of us in society have to put up with this entitled little twit.
Don't you think?
You have people that are five years younger than you
that you run into that are not functioning at that age emotionally.
Well, and it's an unhealthy dynamic on both sides
because you have the, let's use the daughter in this scenario,
it could be a son either way, but the adult child
that will not stand up to mom or dad or speak up to mom or dad or say, I'm a grown up, these are my XYZ funds, policies, whatever.
And then you have the dad or the mom, whoever, that is dominant, controlling.
They like having the power.
They like being the big deal in the family.
And so it becomes this dynamic that's unhealthy on both sides. they both have a responsibility in it is what i'm saying it is emotionally hard
admittedly when your kids reach the point that you're no longer allowed to tell them what to do
yeah i used to could just tell you to do stuff and you freaking had to do it
you know and now i can't do that now i have to convince
you or persuade you like i would one of my buddies i've got to talk you into this is good for you
here's why i think this and depending on how strong i feel about it you know but may not even
bring it up at all but this is just reasonable relationship boundaries and so but but some parents can they have a real problem with this boundary of
saying out loud okay this is like a grown but human here i can no longer tell them what to do
yeah or i shouldn't be telling them what to do it shouldn't be effective someone should stop you from doing
it whether it's the person you're doing it to your yourself your pastor ought to look at you
and go hello you know something somebody ought to give you a little wake-up call you know ring the
bell for you and go uh you have now moved into a new phase you no longer can boss them around
and uh because the interfering mother-in-law when the kid's 32
and she still rolls her eyes with the way the chicken pot pies made oh my god that's a classic
stereotype yeah and it's like you don't get to roll your eyes anymore yeah you like have to be
polite and stuff right you know oh my god you wouldn't do that at your friend's house right
or if you would you
wouldn't have any friends yeah and yet you still think you can get away with it with those that
you love the most and they're the closest to you yeah and so and it does go into the financial
because the more when you don't put the weight of the decision making on the grown child they do not
develop the strength to make the decisions. You have to let them feel
the weight of that rent on their
back. The weight of the
grocery shopping. And you go, oh my
God, look what bread just did.
I imagine it has an effect on the marriage too.
For those that are married, then it's
stripping them of some of the dignity of figuring
it out as a couple. Of communicating
as a couple. Because mom and dad are still controlling
everything, still having a say, still carrying the weight. It's like, no out as a couple of communicating as a couple because mom and dad are still controlling everything still having a say still carrying the weight it's like no like like as a as a couple
you have a fight you run to your mom yeah oh my god yeah yeah i told rachel and denise in particular
i said when you have a fight and if you want to call over here and talk to us about it you better
bring them because otherwise i'm gonna point you right back at him and go, hey, I already told him you're now his problem.
You did say that.
I did exactly say that.
You know I said that.
I do.
This is The Ramsey Personality, is my co-host today.
Tyler is in Colorado Springs.
Hi, Tyler. Welcome to the Ramsey Show.
Hey, how's it going today, Dave?
Better than I deserve. What's up?
I'm kind of in a funny transitional state in my life.
I'm getting ready to transition out of the military,
and I'm looking at living options once I get out.
I'm going to go to college on GI Bill. And I've been really struggling with
whether or not I should rent or try to buy a home. But in doing some research, it doesn't
seem like there's any way that I can get pre-approved for a home loan. And I understand
that you hate VA loans. Can you clarify as to kind of why you you hate va loans so much and also what your
best advice is to me hate might be a strong term but um but number one va loans are more expensive
with fees and interest rate than any of the big three fha va or conventional number two va loans
the reason most people gravitate towards a va loan is you can get a
as you know you can get a house with nothing down yeah and that's which means you're too
dead gum broke to buy a house okay when you buy a house with no money a house is not a blessing
okay and so because you know the air conditioner is going to go out next week
okay so i want you to have a house i just don't want to have you so that that's the reason i don't
i don't it causes people to buy a home and when they're in a position of weakness rather than
strength so what i would tell you to do is uh rent the least expensive thing that you can
and let's work on your career and work on your goals and build up some money
okay so then in that case that leaves me with one of two options i can either live with my
parents for 350 a month which yes that's awesome but how long have you been in the military
i've been in the military for nearly five years when i get out and that would be really that'd
be really painful yeah and and my parents i love them to death
great people but it's it's it's difficult to live with them and so my next option would be um
would be renting a apartment for about 850 bucks a month yeah try to get your roommate situation
where you can get that cut down but you don't need to be back at home. It's just, it's emotionally going to be destructive for everyone involved.
Okay.
And with that though, I guess I have some extra money in the bank that I could use to
float myself on the months that I don't get paid by the VA for the months that I don't
go to school or summer break or whatever.
Um, but can you not work?
I can work. It's going to be very part-time i do plan
on getting a part-time job i actually have a job lined up already uh as soon as i get out so what
are you going to study and how long is it going to take you uh i'm going for a construction
management degree uh and it's going to take me four years i'll get my bachelor's and i should
graduate by like 20 26 somewhere in there well i graduated
in four years with a business degree from the university of tennessee and i worked 40 to 60
hours a week every week okay so very part-time is not necessary you don't have to work that much
because you're not starving to death you've got the stipend and everything but you also have to
sit on your butt and all that extra money can go towards saving up for
when you want to buy a house when you're ready to tyler so the more you work the more money you
have the quicker you get to that goal and and if i were you i would take it a step further and i
would get a job in construction anything you can do around where you want to be meeting those people
that are doing what you want to do what you're're in school for. That's just going to fast-track your whole plan.
Yeah, get your foot in the door and start learning some hands-on
while you're learning in the classroom, and that's going to be,
you're going to come out with three major advantages towards your success,
your military career, your hands-on-the-job training, and your academic background.
You put those three things together, man, you you got some really good taste and soup there i i think you got a bright
future when you do all that and the construction guys will appreciate you actually knowing what
the flip's going on from something other than a textbook all right cheyenne is with us in bowling
green hi cheyenne how are you i'm doing great how are you better than I deserve what's up
uh yes um just wanted to say I love you both and um me and my husband have actually been
with the Ramsey Plus since October of 2020 well my husband has currently been working at his shop
for six years he currently works for a paint factory here in town and they are a part
of the union and his union contract will be up May of 2022. Now we have about 71,000, well,
we had $71,000 in debt and we currently have about $27,000 left and we have about eight
months from now. Um um he could potentially go on
a strike if the contract is not but you said may uh yeah may uh oh okay i thought it was
it is cheyenne don't you let him make you confused about your months okay
no you're right okay okay you got eight months all right so you could be debt free and still have a pile of money by then uh i well that's what i was asking um i was a
little nervous because my husband's slow season is actually coming up this fall uh typically every
single year he's been working there the slow season starts in september and um in between
september and potentially February.
It's very slow, and the amount of hours and the amount of money that we're used to him getting most of the year is possibly going to dwindle down.
And I'm a little bit scared to either go ahead and pay off the rest of the debt
that we have or just pile up cash for a potential strike
because I don't think that he would possibly get paid for
the union strike.
It used to be about $200 a week that he would get paid.
What's your current household income?
$80,000.
Okay.
Yeah, you can be debt-free and have the money by the time you need to.
You only have $27,000 left.
Yes.
Yeah.
And currently...
Now, slow season means his hours go down to how many? You only have $27,000 left. Yes. Yeah. And currently...
Now, slow season means his hours go down to how many?
Instead of him getting about 70 hours a week, it'll probably bump down to 40, 50 hours a week maybe.
Wow.
So he works 70 hours a week a lot of the year.
Yes. And most of that is volunteer. They a week a lot of the year yes and um most of that is volunteer um
they've had a lot of people quit uh you obviously know with the pandemic a lot of people don't want
to keep their jobs that is definitely his case uh when the whole pandemic started they were actually
the busiest they've ever been in their entire life and so um a lot of people have been quitting lately and so that
is keeping his overtime available that's cool so they've been slowly hiring people and i'm just
nervous because i'm i'm the person in the family how many times has his union gone on strike since
he worked there um since he worked there it has not gone on strike which is how long uh he's been working there for six years and the last time the longest they went i think was a month
or a month and a half yeah you're worrying about something you don't need to worry about
okay okay you have a month and a half you have a month and a half problem and you're going to be
debt free you're nervous about what ifs and we don't plan based on what if scenarios cheyenne
you've got a plan to get debt free you're going to get debt free you're nervous about what ifs and we don't plan based on what if scenarios Cheyenne you've got a plan to get debt-free you're going to get debt-free you're going to have some cash
if this even happens which it likely will not I want you to pile up a big old pile of cash and
be debt-free and then you will actually be the most ready for a strike you've ever been since
he's worked there and still probably won't and you're going to do all of that by May but the
likelihood of them going on strikes probably pretty low um they're just
rattling their sabers uh and um you know carrying on because to posture for the negotiations and so
forth because what's happening is most factory situations are behind and the last thing they
want to do is get further behind uh supply chain has been so screwed up by covid and the whole you know
production means of production manufacturing everything's been so screwed up the last thing
unless the union is being completely outlandish the employer is going to sign up so they're not
they're in a position of weakness it's a bad year for their contract to come up for that employer because they need to produce.
So I think you're going to be okay.
And I don't think you need to worry quite at the level you're worrying.
Being intentional and thoughtful about it, yes, I would do that.
And I think it's wise to look at the tea leaves, see what's coming. But I think you're overstating it.
Yeah.
You're going to pile up that cash, Diane, and that's going to give you a peace of mind that you don't have right now.
When you have that, you can see that you'll even know even more that you're going to be okay.
Christy Wright, good show.
Thanks for having me.
It's fun.
Ramsey Personality, my co-host today.
James Childs is our producer.
Laura Johnson filling in for Kelly Daniel, who we can't seem to get to work these days.
She's going to kill you for that one.
She's on strike.
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