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Well, it's not huge, but it's $29,000.
We pay for the property in cash, and now we're going to sell it.
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Well, our baby steps five and six would say you would either use this money to really beef up and leapfrog forward in college or you'd throw it at the mortgage.
Okay. What do you think about putting some of that into a fund that would be for a future vehicle and just go ahead and put that to the side?
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We're hoping not for the next three or four years what's your household income um about 140 no save up for the car
okay no let's just let's make progress on one of these other two things let's get the uh
i mean you know if you said i need to buy a car in the next six months, okay, maybe let's talk about that.
But this is just way distant out there, right?
Okay, yeah. You got a good income.
You can save up and buy a car.
You just got to plan out there eight or ten months to do that with your great income.
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Brian's in Morristown, New Jersey. Hey, Brian, welcome to the Dave Ramsey Show. Thank you, Dave. Thanks
for taking my question. How are you doing? Better than I deserve. What's up? So right now,
my girlfriend's in her final year of vet school, and thankfully, up until this point, um, her parents have been able to help her pay
for all of that school. Um, and she hasn't had to take out any debt. Um, however, this year is
her final year and she'll be taking out about 45,000, um, in loans. And, and I'm next week
will be about five years that I've been dating her.
And honestly, next year and a half or so, I intend to ask her to marry me.
You're a speed demon, aren't you?
Six and a half years?
Dude, you must be a prize.
She's waiting on you.
You know what? She probably still has another four years of residency to go in order
to get a specialization. So she's going to far out educate me. That's what I've long accepted.
But my question is, how would you recommend that I help her tackle the debt. I'll say that right now my income, my standard income is about $90,000.
However, I'm planning on the net worth to be a little over $200,000 for the year.
And right now my biggest expense monthly is my rent, which is about $1,900. is come up with a plan of her tackling 50% of her debt from her income
and me trying to offer to cover rent.
What's your thought on that?
I think you're playing house before you're married.
I wouldn't be paying bills for anyone that I wasn't married to
under any circumstances because of all the downsides.
And it messes with the relationship as well.
Your girlfriend or your fiance has a different feeling when she walks in the room and you're carrying the financial burden.
If it's your wife, it's a different thing.
Because once the preacher says, and now you are one, we do your wife, it's a different thing.
Because once the preacher says, and now you are one, we do this together.
It's all together.
So I would do one of two routes.
I would go one end of the spectrum or the other to maintain safety in the relationship,
the legal standing, and the financial standing.
Route number one is you continue with the calendar that you're using,
and you just pile up a big old pile of cash over on your side of the equation so that when you come home from the honeymoon, you write checks,
and all of her stuff goes away.
Okay?
Okay.
And it has the exact same mathematical effect at the end of the story.
Yeah.
It just doesn't in the meantime.
And by the way, the borrowing, if she's doing doing it now is not putting any strain on her today it's when it
comes due later that it'll be a strain yeah so it's not a big deal for to do to do it that way
the second way is to reconsider your calendar and that sounds like uh get married now or sooner
very soon and then we've just got a combined income and a combined set of goals,
and you take your fabulous income and plow her on through vet school.
Yeah.
Nothing wrong with that plan either.
I mean, it's not like you guys ain't been hanging out together.
You didn't meet her five and a half days ago in a bar.
It's five and a half years ago.
So, you know, that's not an unreasonable consideration
um so uh uh because it you know unless something really weird happens this is probably going
forward for the way you've described it i guess eventually but uh but yeah you know again you do
what you want to do i uh i would have a tendency to go towards the second one just on a personal level, on a relational level.
There just feels like there's just this separation, and we're trying to do it together, but we're not together.
And it's like dragging out, and it's already drug out a long time anyway.
And we're dragging it out even further now, and it's a biff.
I just like the cleanliness of going ahead and getting married in terms of the relationship, the legal, you don't have to worry about anything.
And that's how I would do it.
So, hey, thanks for the call.
And I would not buy property together when you're not married, folks.
I wouldn't combine incomes, combine assets when you're not married.
You get yourself in trouble.
So, good question, Brian.
Thank you for calling in.
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Gustav is with us in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Hey, Gustav, what's up?
Hey, Dave, how are you doing?
Better than I deserve, man. How can I help?
Yeah, sure. So my question is, should I pursue my ex-wife for child support?
Was she obligated to pay it by the court?
So last year, I got paid in custody of my child.
And so I used to pay child support.
I terminated child support at that time.
And I also applied for child support from her.
With COVID and everything else, there was a big delay in the court system.
So yesterday she talked to me.
We're trying to ask about what we're going to do about the child support case in October.
She has three other kids.
We together only have one, but she has a total of four.
I make more than her.
But I'm coming to the standpoint where she has a financial obligation to participate
but the other side is
should I be compassionate and be forgiving
that she does have other obligations and give her that grace
and not seek child support.
Well, this is not about you having compassion or grace regarding something that's owed to you.
It's not owed to you.
It's owed to your child.
So on behalf of your child, should you let her go, would be a better way of asking the question.
What do you make?
My base is $140 a year.
What does she make?
$45 plus.
Is she remarried?
She is currently married, but she might be going through a... They're separated now,
so there's a foreseeable divorce in the future.
What a nightmare.
Right. So she's had a recent selling of a house that they lived in. She's downsized
to something a bit more affordable for her and the other kids.
You have 100% custody now?
Correct.
How old is your baby?
He just turned 14 on the 15th.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I see your dilemma, and I share it.
In other words, you don't need the money.
You can take care of the baby.
You make $140, you can take care of a 14-year-old.
And you don't need the money.
The kid's going to be fine.
We don't have to have this money for the kid to have, in quotes, the good life financially.
Dad's going to be able to handle that.
You've got 100% of the responsibility anyway,
so it's no big deal from a mathematical standpoint to let her go. You got it, right?
That is correct. Yeah, so the only dilemma is, is there some kind of a moral or ethical thing where she should take care of one of her kids and should want to and should
participate in that and so on. And, you know, that's on her, really. And do you try to force
her into that? I don't know. I mean, I'm listening to the way you're forming your sentences and the
way you're delivering these words and i
think in your mind you've already let her go haven't you i i have i would hate for her in the
future to grow up as a person and reflect and say wow maybe i didn't participate and have that
regret yeah but by having her pay even the minimum child support, she would have that,
you know, that sense of I've participated.
Yeah.
But that's what they're going to have to do.
Well, that's, again, I mean, you could lay that on her anyway as you walk away.
You could just say, hey, when you get yourself together,
I think you'll regret it if you don't come and start participating,
but I'm not going to legally force you to
that has the exact same effect because you're now you're worried about how she
ends up in the end of the story with regret and i mean she's she's obviously got
had all kinds of relationship issues in her life um and so, you know, uh, I think it probably makes your life simpler and more peaceful
to let her go.
I, I, I'm not sure I'm a thousand percent ready to say that's the moral or ethical thing
to do because I'm just real big on babies being taken care of by their parents.
It just kind of generally has a burr in my saddle about that, you know.
But I get the whole situation.
This baby's not in peril.
This baby's fine.
You got the kid.
You got the money to take care of the kid.
There's nobody at risk here.
It's just an emotional discussion.
And if you let her go, can you really emotionally let her go
can you just say that's it and and not worry about it ever again not wake up in the middle
of the night pissed off i can okay i could i could because i can do that once i decide to do it
uh if somebody wants to fight i can wake up in the middle of the night 10 years mad about them
later but uh but i can let them go and i don and I don't lose an eye wink asleep over it ever
because that was my choice.
So that's how I do forgiveness and stuff.
So, you know, I'm just two guys talking through it, dude.
There's no legal stance here from me.
You know, I don't have one.
There's no moral stance here from me.
It's just I think you're probably going to have a better life.
Your kids are probably going to have a better life if you let her go.
It's what it sounds like to me.
Okay, great.
I appreciate that advice.
You think about it, and you may want to lay it back on her and say someday I think you'll regret it
if you don't come up and participate at some point, but I'm never going to do that to you legally.
And then sign a document legally that lets her go
so you don't have any temptation to change your mind later.
Cut it.
Cut it free.
Cut her free.
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Had a guy a thousand years ago when I was a little twerp that I loaned a thousand bucks to and that was stupid
on my part because he was stupid and I was stupid and there's a thousand dollars in stupid going on
in the story before I even opened my mouth you need to know this and I got man I was so twisted
up because I was I think I was mad at myself because I mean if you loan broke people money
and they don't pay you whose fault is that that's your fault not the broke people they were already broke you're dumb you know so
that's me i was dumb and so how what right have i got to be twisted up because broke people don't
pay bills hello no kidding why is this you know dumb butt and so um you know and i'm just mad at myself and every time i see the guy i was just like
and finally i just woke up one morning god said my son you're a fool i said yes father i am he
said let him go because he's got you around the neck and that's the best thousand dollars i ever
spent my life just letting that guy go because it't him. He wasn't having any trouble with it.
It was only me.
He wasn't worried about it.
He wasn't going to pay it anyway.
It was only me that was worried about it.
So that's a good $1,000, man.
I got a whole bunch, $1,000 of stupid tax, tuition to the school of life of doing stupid butt stuff,
and it cost you money.
How many of you all lost money doing something stupid, and you learned the lesson,
and the lesson was worth more than the lost money because you never have to do it again?
I got the whole rest of my life to never make that mistake again.
It's awesome.
And if you have a whole bunch of those, they eventually call you wise
because you got a whole bunch of stupid butt stuff that you never do again.
And a whole stack of those things, and now you're called wise.
So, but that's the thing.
It's just there is such a power sometimes in your own life.
Oftentimes, I know for me it is, just let them go.
Just let them go.
Let them go.
They're not worried about it.
You're the only one worried about it.
It's a great call, sir. Thank you. Thank you for reminding me. What a good guy, though.
I even asked that question. What a great guy. This is the Dave Ramsey Show. Thank you. Hey, guys.
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McKenzie and Lauren calling in to do a debt-free scream.
Hey, guys, how are you?
Doing well. How are you doing, Dave?
Better than I deserve.
How much have you two paid off?
We were at $28,420 in about nine months.
$28,420 in nine months.
Way to go.
What was your range of income during that time?
We were at $103,000 to $117,000.
Wow. What do you guys do for a living? I'm an engineer over at Micron Technologies.
And I'm a stay-at-home mom. Very cool. Very cool. What kind of debt was this $28,420?
We had about $12,000 on a car, about $1 car about 1500 medical and then the rest credit card cool how
long you guys been married um we have been married for nine years okay so after eight years of
marriage someone said uh this debt thing sucks what happened tell me your story so uh we we
maxed out our credit card and uh i pretty much said we've got to do something about this.
Lauren came home one day, and she said, we have this budgeting app every dollar.
I said, I don't want to do that right now.
Let's think about something else.
And I think within like a day or two i i had heard dave ramsey uh
and i said let's listen to this podcast not knowing that every dollar was part of your system
oh that's fun yeah i love it we're everywhere you can't get away ha ha ha ha right i love it well
done dude very cool so you start listening to the podcast and then turns out that uh
lauren's every dollar Idea was a good one.
And then what happened?
Yeah, so then we just started going to it.
It was pretty quick.
So she was driving me to work every day because we were down to one car.
We started saving up for a second car, but we were listening to the podcast together.
Yeah, and then we just kind of just kept going and kept paying, and finally we were listening to the podcast uh together um yeah and then we just kind of just
kept going and uh kept paying and finally we were debt free well it rolled up pretty quick didn't
it yeah it was amazing i think once we got focused and we just wanted to be done and so we just took
off yeah yeah and once you got on the same page yes Yes, of course. So before the credit card got maxed, which was kind of the pain point that kicked you off,
kicked you back on your heels a little bit,
and then suddenly the EveryDollar app arrives and then suddenly podcasts start popping up,
oddly enough all about the same time.
But before that you were just kind of wandering along doing normal?
Yeah, I mean, so I went to school, and we didn't have any debt.
We went through school, no loans or anything like that, just working our way.
And we moved down from Idaho to Utah, and we put the move on the credit card.
That was pretty much the first time we went into debt.
And then after that, it kind of just piled up.
We went on a trip, and we put a little bit on there.
It kind of just was gradual.
Yeah, yeah.
And really, if you don't pay attention to it, it unravels pretty quick.
So there you sit, $28,420 in debt.
How old are you guys?
I am 30.
I'm 33, and we've got two kids, six and two.
Perfect.
You guys are incredible.
I'm so proud of y'all.
Thank you.
Well done.
Very well done.
How does it feel to get out of debt?
It feels like a huge weight is lifted.
It's not in the back of my mind anymore, and it just feels amazing.
Will you ever go back in?
No.
No way.
We're focusing on Baby Step 3.
And so for me, financially, it hasn't much changed
because everything is just going to savings right now.
Yeah.
But, I mean, I know that we've got that money.
So, like Lauren said, it was a big burden lifted off.
Well, you've got a great career.
You've got a great family.
You're going to be able to plow right into millionaire status
as one of the next chapters in your story for sure.
Yeah, that's our goal, I think.
Eight years is our house.
Hey, there you go.
Got a target.
I love it.
Well done, guys.
Who are your biggest cheerleaders outside of the two of you
um listening to the podcast every day our kids they um would ask to listen to you every day
and so that was a big help listening to um other people calling into your show
we were pretty quiet about it okay well that's sweet that you made your kids weird.
That's fun. Oh, man. They pretend to be you in the car. So one of them will say,
I'm Dave Ramsey, and you're here to do your debt-free scream.
That's perfect. Are they going to help today? Yeah. We've got one of them. The other one's
running around somewhere. All right. Well, well done, you guys.
Great job.
What do you tell people the key to getting out of debt is?
For me, it was getting Lauren, I guess, focused on the money.
She would kind of just go out and buy something, not really know what our situation is.
But if anything came out of this this it was us being on the
same page with money uh and staying focused on it being organized i think using the every dollar app
was huge for me um i tracked everything that we did and um so i think that that was a huge help
yeah way to go guys very well done all right mckenzie and lauren salt lake city utah
28 420 gone in nine months they're done they're done they did it we got a copy of chris hogan's
book for you everyday millionaires because that's the next chapter in your story for sure. Count it down. Let's hear a great debt-free scream.
Three, two, one.
We're debt-free!
I love it!
Love it.
It is more than just a little interesting to me, after having done this show for 30 years now,
the number of young people in their 20s and even 30s that come to do their debt-free scream,
that couple was not the case, but I was thinking more of their kids, that are financial peace babies.
Their parents went through FPU 15 or 20 years ago,
and now they're 27, and they remember those lessons
when they got married and found themselves in a mess,
and they get themselves out.
And so maybe I'll live to see three generations doing this,
financial peace grandbabies, you know, or something like that.
And somebody started calling them Dave babies,
and that's not going to be okay.
We don't want to say that. But financial peace babies is what we're going to call them so
uh but the uh yeah that young child there i think it was her son probably that did the countdown
he's eight years old think about stuff you remember that your family did or went through when you were a kid, good and bad.
Tragedies, financial problems, illnesses, divorces,
milestones when wonderful things happened and the family declared victory.
That's what this is.
It marks your kid. It's a milestone is it marks your kid it's a milestone it marks it and they can't keep
from remembering it so he's eight when he's 28 and married a girl who never heard a financial piece
with 126 000 dollars in student loan debt to get a degree in left-handed puppetry
he will sit down and say,
we have to clean this up, my dear.
And he won't even realize why he's doing it.
That's how you change your family tree.
It's ingrained.
It becomes part of the DNA of the fabric of the family.
Families have generational stupid.
Families have generational smart.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Yep. Because rich keep doing smart stuff with money and poor people keep doing stupid stuff with money. Now, there's other reasons people are poor other than just doing stupid stuff. But when
I was poor, it's because I was stupid. And when I quit doing that, I wasn't poor anymore.
Ha! It was an amazing thing.
So, not shaming the poor.
Dave Ramsey shames the poor.
Oh, shut up, you left-wing moron.
But the truth is, I'm not shaming anybody.
The point is, I'm shaming behaviors, and you can change your family tree.
You can reset the fabric and the DNA of how your family thinks.
You don't have to have shame-based things in your family.
Well, our family always struggled with...
Why? Stop it. Stop it.
McKenzie and Lauren drew a line.
They changed their family tree.
And they celebrated it today.
Proud of you guys.
Well done.
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Did you hear that as a headline?
Nope, you didn't.
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You become financial roadkill because you're panicked like a deer.
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You make squirrel decisions when you freak out.
You get stuck. You get paralyzed
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$27,000. And I'm the same guy in 2008 when it went from $13,000 to $6,400
that told you not to cash out then.
It went in half that time.
This time it didn't go in half.
It went from about $28,000 down to about $19,000
and then came back in 56 or 57 days.
Now, I understand it's scary.
But that doesn't mean
you step on the gas and let go of the wheel.
You just
have to have...
If you hit ice driving down the road at 60 miles
an hour, what do you do?
Slam on the brakes?
No. This is how you total your car,
fool.
You let off of everything and just let it roll through baby and hold the wheel and hopefully course correct a little bit but into the steer
into the slide but i mean you don't step on the brakes and you don't step on the gas
and there's some common sense aspect of this whole thing. Did you sell your house when houses went down in value?
No, because you knew houses would come back.
Same thing here.
Same thing here.
So nobody gets hurt on a roller coaster except those that jump off in the middle.
I wish I had told you something different one single time
so people could say I was inconsistent, and they would be right, but they're wrong. I've told you the exact same thing about investing for 30 years.
And by the way, it's what I personally do with investing.
My only temptation is, and I don't do it, but my only temptation is when the stock market
goes down like it is to invest more.
And I don't even do that because I don't believe in market timing.
I just invest and invest and invest and invest and invest.
And I want to be consistent with who I say that I am.
And I don't want to tell you to do something that I don't do with investing.
So 100% of the things that I teach you to do with investing, I personally do.
And I've just got some more zeros on it. But that's it.
It's just, you know, so I don't even invest when I'm tempted to. But I mean, think about it.
Think about this, okay? If the stock market recovered 30-something percent in 57 days,
and you had put in a million dollars what would that have turned into see that's tempting
that right there's some tempting numbers and i knew that was coming i didn't know it's going
to be 57 days or 157 days but i knew it's coming back and i'm thinking dad come it oh i can but i
you know i don't i don't violate the principles that I live by for greed or for fear.
Because when you do, that's when you get stepped on.
That's how it works.
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