Live Like a Girl with Dr. Mindy Pelz - Are Your Minerals Depleted? – With Barton Scott

Episode Date: September 27, 2021

For full show notes, resources mentioned, and transcripts go to: www.drmindypelz.com/ep89/ To enroll in Dr. Mindy's Fasting membership go to: resetacademy.drmindypelz.com This episode is all about minerals. As a human race, we are deficient in minerals, and mineral deficiency looks different for each one of us. Barton Scott is a chemical engineer, a nutritionist, and the Founder of Upgraded Formulas. Barton is passionate about helping people combat the stressors of daily life, the toxicity of the modern world, the utter lack of nutrients, and the mineral absorption issues that we all face, and he has made it his mission to reduce suffering by increasing the public's understanding of the human body's interrelationships. Please see our medical disclaimer. 

We really need minerals because minerals activate all the enzymatic pathways in the body, all of them. And it's been said that without minerals, vitamins are useless because of that reason, because they activate those enzymatic pathways. I am a woman on a mission that is dedicated to teaching you just how powerful your body was built to be. I like to do that by bringing you the latest science, the greatest thought leaders, and applicable steps that help you tap. into your own internal healing power. The purpose of this podcast is to give you the power back and help you believe in yourself again. My name is Dr. Mindy Pels, and I want to thank you for spending part of your day with me.

Okay, resetters on this episode, we are going to dive into minerals. So let me tell you, if there is one thing I've learned from fasting hundreds of thousands of people over the years is that we as a human race are deficient in minerals. But here's the real challenge is that it looks different. A mineral deficiency looks different for each one of us. And so I am bringing you in this episode, Barton Scott. He is the CEO of upgraded formulas. His company is specializes in minerals. You will hear in the episode, I have personal experience with his products. I've seen some tremendous change with my HRV and with my sleep using some of his products. And so I was so curious to know more about which minerals are associated with which conditions

and how we can supplement with them, what activities can we avoid so we don't deplete more minerals and how we can use minerals to really bring our health to another level. So Bart and Scott, you're going to hear there's a lot of what, what, my husband likes to call nuance. There's a lot of detail. There's a lot of things we need to know about minerals other than just go and pop some minerals. We need to understand which minerals we might be deficient in. So in this episode, we talk a lot about hormones, of course. We talk about fatigue and minerals. We talk about thyroid and minerals. And we dive into magnesium, manganese. That was a new one for me. Potassium, iodine. We talk about zinc.

zinc and zinc's effect on hormones. And it's just, it'll elevate your, your thoughts around what we need to just function normally as a human. So I'm really excited to bring this episode to you, Bart and Scott. And as always, if you love what you're hearing here, leave us a review, share it out into the world. My podcast stands for creating a new paradigm around health. And when we talk about something like minerals, we really are changing.

the conversation around disease and dysfunction and giving the power back to you. Enjoy. But I just want to start with like that idea of why is everybody mineral deficient? Such a good question. Well, our world is more toxic than it's ever been. Some estimates say a thousand times more toxic. The air we're breathing than not that long ago, like prior to the Industrial Revolution. So our genes haven't caught up to that.

and the soil is 30 to 40% more deficient just in the last 60 to 80 years. And we're not eating 30 to 40% more. And even if we were, that would just be more that the body would have to get rid of. So there's a lot there. So would it be fair to say that pretty much every human is mineral deficient? Yes, it would. I don't like to quote the CDC much, but even their estimates, because they're so conservative, they say 96% of people have at least one deficiency. 90s. It is holding them back in their

health. So, crazy. And something like 90% have eight or more. Eight or more. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, I think that's, it's fairly conservative as well. However, it, you know, it's, it's all about understanding the priority of these things and trying and not trying to fix all of them at once. but it's understanding a sequence that the body cares about most and doing it in that sequence and also respect to heavy metals and, yeah, a lot of good stuff and influences everything in the body. Yeah. So just taking minerals, what I hear is not that you can't just pop a multi mineral that you find

at Walgreens. Like you have to like, that's not the answer that there is a system to taking minerals. Is that what I'm hearing you say? Yes, that's what I've realized for myself and for all the people we've worked with at Upgraded. And wow, I mean, it's such a profound difference when it starts to click for people. And for some people, it clicks sooner than others because of the other limiting factors in their body, like heavy metals. If someone has a huge toxic load of heavy metals, then that's a key part that we're working with as well. Yeah, just so we can pull our listeners up to speed.

Why do we even need minerals? I think this is like there's a massive gap in information on why we would even need minerals. And it's not until we have a condition that we start to look at that. So what do minerals do in our body? Yeah. So we really need minerals because minerals activate all the enzymatic pathways in the body, all of them. And it's been said that without minerals, vitamins are useless. because of that reason, because they activate those enzymatic pathways.

What I've found when fasting is that I can fast nearly without pain if I have knowledge of the minerals I'm low in, and then I'm supporting my glands. So I'm supporting my thyroid function. I'm supporting my adrenals. And being able to do extended fast is just so much easier that way. And, of course, they're not going to break fast. Yeah. So that's been something I've learned as I've done some pretty long fast.

Yeah. Is it easier because you're not hungry or you just don't have as many symptoms? I think it's easier because I focus better. And also, yes, the hunger there is a part of it. But I would say the easiest part is just you're keeping your adrenals nourished. So you're getting more momentum. You know, because I did a, I don't think you and I talked about this before, but I had done an 11-day fast in part because I wanted to heal an injury that I had, like I was running and I had a partial pull of my handstring. So I wanted the, you know, the free stem cells that come out day four, day five to start healing, healing, healing.

And it worked. It absolutely worked. And I could have gone longer, but I thought, I. right, let me try to get at least five days in. I felt better and better. So I just kept going and I got to day seven and just intuitively I felt like my body still wasn't done cleaning itself. So I kept, I kept going either cleaning or healing and is how it sort of came through for me. And so I just let it keep going and that worked. I dropped quite a bit of body fat and I was taking our minerals throughout the process and supporting the adrenals with those thyroid, some others in general

around blood sugar and keeping that stabilized, taking our magnesium to keep the, you know, adrenaline and cortisol from spiking and kind of like pushing you toward solving that through food or, yeah, all that temptation, right? Yeah, I healed an Achilles tendon injury with a five-day water fast. Wow. I tried everything. And I was fine like, I'm just going to fast and see what happens. And it was gone.

Like, it never came back. Never had a problem again. It was crazy how the body heals like that is insane. So good. Right? Yeah. What minerals are you seen are the most deficient in people? There's, you know, there's the common ones that we hear about like magnesium and potassium.

Potassium is probably the high. highest 98%, but also iodine is way, way up there. And the manganese. A lot of people think of it's saying magnesium. I know you, you know, probably a lot of your audience knows or as heard of manganese, but most people aren't really clear on what it does. And, you know, it's key for actually building the structures of in our minds, in our brains, of memory, like for creating those neural pathways as well as, you know, phosphorus,

is as well, although that one's in pretty good supply for people that eat enough protein, particularly from animal sources. That's where you find your best sources of phosphorus. What else? What else? Those are some big ones for sure. And then it just depends on the person's biochemical makeup at this time, right? Based on what they've been eating, what their lifestyle is, have they just recently run,

you know or been training for a half marathon marathon or some race or working really hard or just going through a lot of life stress all these all these different things right can increase our burn rate of minerals maybe they've taken you know focus medication that's really depleted on the body like we've talked about so adderol modafinil vivance any of these things can really be be difficult. And the interesting thing is that these deficiencies and, you know, they really start to lead to personality over time. Yeah.

Because they lead to habit almost immediately. And then habit becomes personality. So, yeah, it's super interesting. A lot of, I think there's a lot in relationships as well around, around that. And then the intersection of that with hormones. It's all very fascinating. What do you think the biggest depleter outside of our soils? You talked about working out medications.

Like, is there one thing? The soil issue is huge. And as a, as the human race, we've got to solve that. We've got to go back to regenerative agriculture. It's ridiculous. So, but outside of that, that's a long-term problem. We're going to have to solve as a collective group of people. But what can we do on an individual level?

Like, if we know we're on Adler, If we know we're an extreme, you know, running a marathon, like, are there certain activities that you're like, these are the top five things that are going to plead your mineral stores? Sure. Yeah. It's definitely working out. What caused this and what made me have to jump into this as a chemical engineer and nutritionist later on was I had accumulated so many deficiencies from being a wrestler. I played other sports like football and, you know, you sweat a lot in those sports. to track and track. But with wrestling, you're you're minimizing what you're eating. You're maximizing your output. And of course, that's a recipe for hypothyroidism, just self-induced. That's a recipe for nutrient deficiencies because there's no way you're going to recoup

that roughly 5,000 milligrams of potassium every day that we all need and that is a huge struggle to get anyway. So I would say extreme exertion. This is why, which really leads to, you know, the reason why you'll see an athlete get sick and you're like, wow, they're like 22. I don't understand like how they would, they're like 22. They're ripped. They have no body fat. They're young. You know, they're just all the thing. And yet they'll get sick. This is why. This is absolutely why. It's because we're, we're just, you know, the same nutrient deficiency pattern as someone in their 80s that's unhealthy. I mean, they're healthy 80-year-olds that don't have nutrient deficiency like that. So that's one. And then quite literally, the other really,

in my experience, is either drugs or medication. And I put those in a pretty similar category because they're so similar. You know, Vivance is similar to, I mean, it's a method. so is Adderall and you know we get it's pretty it's incredibly easy I get prescribed those things and that was that was one thing that I say it all the time is the worst nutritional mistake I ever made so I want people to know that and and understand they have a very clear path to fixing their focus I think anxiety you know it goes hand in hand with that lack of focus and anxiety increases that burn rate when we're just sitting at our desk where what I say often is we're redlining at our desk, right? A lot of people are.

They're like redlining about the email or the thing they need to do or any number of things. So they have this background anxiety, which leads to a lack of focus. Then they feel like they're out of options. So instead of either working with minerals and testing and then, you know, neutropics that are, you know, herbs that are so much more conducive to long-term health than a medication that's going to push you really, really hard to, you know, jack up your cortisol or to, you know, just work on so many different systems in the body in a really intense way. So those, and then, you know, I put alcohol in that same category, too much coffee in that same

category. So like a little bit fine, a lot, obviously super depleted. Those are the things that come up first. And then, you know, I would say stress is, you know, attached to all of those as well. So I feel like that's, I feel like that's like the whole human race. I mean, you've got like people stressed. They're not eating the right. They're not getting minerals in their food anymore because of the monocropping. And for those of you guys listening, if you're not familiar with that go watch the documentary kiss the ground it's a great example of what's going on in our farming system we've got you know people sweating a lot especially some of the athletes uh you've got uh people on i mean medications left and right and so can everybody just assume they have a mineral deficiency

yeah they really can because it's such a it's such a balance right it's such a we're just constantly using these things. This is what our whole planet is made of, like you're talking about with regenerative agriculture. It's what our soil is made up of. It's that periodic table. And it really, it really surprises me that it's not more common like what I'm teaching around hair testing, the depths of the things you can learn from it, like adrenal and thyroid function and metabolism and hormones and all sorts of stuff. And that we somehow, I don't know, we somehow think that or we don't think about it, but we somehow think, for lack of a better phrase,

that we can get by without testing this periodic table that we're made of. Right. Yes. Yeah. The fundamental principles, like all last year, I walked around thinking, God, if we just got everybody amped up on vitamin D, everybody's immune system would be stronger. We'd be out of this situation. And what I'm hearing from you is I'm like, especially when we dive into anxiety and depression, like if we just had everybody understand their mineral balance, like those are big symptoms.

And we haven't even talked yet about thyroid and adrenal. But those are big issues that are killing people's lifestyle, yet something as simple as a mineral is not being talked about. Why do you think that is? Is that lack of education? It's, I guess so. I think because minerals aren't, they don't give you the same effect that drinking a cup of coffee does. Yeah. So it doesn't keep us coming back to it, right? They're not chemically addictive.

Well said. They're chemically needed. But if it had any of the properties of tobacco or alcohol or coffee, then we'd be all over it, I'm sure. You got to be addictive. It's got to have an addictive point to it. Yeah. There's some sort of major hook. Yeah.

And I think that's why, yeah, I don't think I've ever said that before, but that is true. And that is why I think people love our magnesium is because. They take it and they feel it. They really feel it. They sleep better. Oh, yeah. Why, you know, all of our minerals have, have a, you know, our key technology that I developed back in 2016 after realizing most minerals do not absorb. And I was losing my short, my memory, my short term memory.

And having a bunch of issues with brain fog. And, God, it was just, I mean, it was miserable. It was frightening. It was, yeah, it was terrifying. He was easily the worst period of my life. And losing someone that I cared about watching your health go downhill, watching surgery after surgery, and knowing that there had to be some other way

because medications seem to make it worse and worse. She had organs removed, like thymus gland removed. And just watching this, this is my mother. And she had gone from very vivacious, one of the most intelligent people I'd ever known, could sit with anyone in the world and have a, you know, in-depth conversation to just a lackluster life. And I just remember feeling heartbroken,

not only for me, but for her. And for all the people that she impacted in thinking, this is so clearly not working. And she had great access to all, like, so, you know, all the best of quote unquote modern health care with its drugs and pharmaceuticals. And I remember thinking, and I was born to older parents.

I knew a lot of this would probably come up at some point early in my life and for most people. And so I think from an early age, I was always thinking about longevity. I was thinking about anti-aging. I was thinking about, for my own self,

just knowing I wanted to really contribute to the world in a very powerful, clear way. Didn't know what that looked like yet. but I knew I just felt like I was going to have mission after mission in life. Yeah, that's awesome. That's why we donate to charity water, a portion of all proceeds go to them. I mean, we need to get, we need to fix the soil like you talked about.

We need to get everyone clean water and drill some pretty sustainable water wells, teach people in community how to do it. I mean, it's very cost effective. Anyway, I can go on. Yeah, amen. Yeah, I hear you on that. And I, every day, the more I research, the more heartbroken I am, that the human body is not thriving in this modern world. And there are so many things like depression, anxiety, thyroid, adrenal, fatigue, weight loss, resistant, hormone imbalance.

I mean, you go on and on and on. And people are not aware that what we're living in, the food we're eating, the water we're drinking, the stress were under. the, you know, we could name a bazillion things is depleting us of just naturally feeling good. And then we have a health care system where we go and we try to medicate those symptoms, which causes more depletion. And it just breaks my heart. We have to change this paradigm. The paradigm is not working. So I'm 100% with you on that. And I love that you guys like give back to charity and that you're on a mission. That that is incredible. Yeah. I love the idea. idea of being able to colonize other planets.

We should tell you should talk to my husband. My husband and son are ready to go to Mars. Yeah. I get it. Like it's a big dream. It's beautiful. It's just like when we went to the moon, it's inspiring. And if I feel like we should certainly solve the problems here first.

Yeah. Maybe perhaps. I mean, we can work it on both, I suppose, at the same time. Wow. I mean, anyway. I talked to a guy, Dr. mayor, Emron Mayer, he wrote a gut immune connection. And he said, if we're going to go to Mars, we've got to take some bacteria with us. We can't just, we're going to need to bring the microbiome

with us as well. So, and we've destroyed the microbiome here on and everything. So I thought that was a funny slant. So talk to me, talk to me about magnesium. So I just want to just so our listeners know, I mean, I took, you gave me, we met at a seminar a couple months ago. You gave me a bottle of the magnesium. I'm always looking for sleep as a menopausal woman. I used to sleep great at that 31, at 51. I really have to have a lot of hacks to make sure that I sleep well. I took that magnesium, not really knowing what I was doing. I just was like, okay, let me take two before I go to bed.

I woke up the next morning and my whoop was registering. It was like I had the recovery was insane. It was like almost 100%. My HRV had gone up. So then I'm like, okay, maybe I just had a restful. night. So I repeated it through the whole bottle, like, and that I had the same result. And then I ran out in the bottle and my HRV went down. My recovery went down. What the heck happened? Explain to me why magnesium helps so much with sleep and, and HRV, which is really important measurement.

Yeah. So such good questions. It helps with sleep because it's converting into melatonin. It's one of the key constituents of melatonin, right? So that has. helps us rest and really get in there and get that deep restorative sleep. So yeah, I'll track mine on my aura ring and I love it when people say what you just said and they send me screenshots of their tracking device, just, you know, friends and other friends and whatnot. So, and it's just so many people were like, oh, if I could just fix sleep, I'd be so set. And that's, that's why the HRV improves is just because we're really rested. So. So the heart's able to deeply relax and really slow down and get that off rhythm beat that it's supposed to have.

And yeah, I mean, we start to turn down information. We start to really flip all the flip mini switches in our genes that are really positive, you know, from an epigenetic standpoint. And, you know, it just leads to this positive thing where we wake up and now we're more focused. here and then what happens well then we then maybe we meditate and we wouldn't have otherwise or we go for a walk and we wouldn't have otherwise and either one of those things or both of those things lead to more focus more achievement more peace of mind more so it's it really begins and ends with sleep i i think for me so i am that that's the first product that i worked on and put out that has our prior absorption method and that's that's why it works so well and we bind it with with

chloride, so it's not normal magnesium chloride by any means. It was amazing. And I also love that I could see it on my whoop because I always say, you know, I always think is it the placebo effect? Did I think I was going to sleep better? So then I slept better. But when you actually, I mean, we've been tracking so much on the whoop and we have people use the aura as well.

And it's just, it was proof right there. It was, it was so cool. So, yeah. So glad you shared that. Yeah. And Jessica's husband, who's. an extreme athlete had any in a he's in his 30s had the same experience so you know it was he was like coming in with his whoop like what was that thing that you got at the seminar like this thing

was incredible so he's probably from so much sweating maybe mineral deficient or magnesium deficient so yeah and then well the other thing too to even answer to add to that on why magnesium is so important, calcium to magnesium is such a key ratio. So when your magnesium is low, your calcium effectively is high. And that leads to just any number of issues, whether it's thyroid, parathyroid, just hormone issues, stiffness and joints, maybe the calcium channel is staying open, calcium ion channel staying open too long in the brain, which, you know, can actually be a real issue with people taking too much vitamin B. So I would have to have. Absolutely. I always, here's what I do without saying should. I, when I take magnesium or when I

take vitamin D, I take it with magnesium because vitamin D causes calcium absorption. And then we want that ratio, one of the more important ratios in the body of calcium to magnesium to be ideal. So talk to me about thyroid because this is another one. And I want to talk about thyroid and iodine specifically because I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on iodine. I've heard. you know, you shouldn't take it, you should take it. You got to be careful how you take it. So what is it that we need? Is that the key nutrient for thyroid function is iodine?

And yeah, how would we know we're deficient in it? How do we know how much to take? It's a great question. To take those kind of piece by piece, iodine's recommend the daily allowance, in my opinion, is incredibly low at 150 micrograms. I say that in part because after looking at the diet in Japan quite a bit, I found that like for every, every mineral and also the macros that they're eating. So they're way, if we could swap health with any of their developed country, we would want to do that, both health, longevity for sure. I mean, they're, they're so far ahead of us, right?

That's interesting. Yeah. So longevity, health, all these different things. And, you know, some of that's mindset and culture and things, but a lot of it is diet, a lot of is diet. And they're consuming about 100 times more iodine per day than we are. Interesting. So I'm not saying that that's the only thing because it obviously isn't the only thing, of course.

And it's really important. And there's just no way you can run your thyroid off 150 micrograms a day. Like even if someone has Hashimoto's, you know, you still need your thyroid to function for obvious reasons. So I'm, I'll just address that straight out of the gate. My opinion from looking at everything I've seen is that you still need iodine because you still want that gland producing hormones. Now, is it going to produce hormones without the key minerals that it needs? No, it's not. And to the extent it doesn't have those key minerals, it will not produce, it will ratchet

down its production. So there's a lot there. Iodinous key, I created something a couple of years ago called peak thyroid, P-E-A-K, and that is a blend of four minerals of thyroid really needs. In addition to those four minerals, manganese, I'm sorry, yeah, manganese and magnesium. magnesium or both, I was going to say magnesium first, but they're both key, you know, from either the conversion of the hormones from inactive to active or the signaling throughout the HP axis. So there's a lot there. You know, there's not, unfortunately, iodine's such a small

amount in the body. And just it's, it's chemical properties are such that it's, it's, it's, it's not possible a test for accurately currently. We used to try a test for it in hair and people and granted, you can still buy a test for it with blood, but it will it be accurate? No, it, there's no accuracy to any way to test for iodine currently. Unfortunately, there's Can I get iodine through salt? No, it's not enough of a dose. So iodine salt's not great. I'm so glad you asked that, right?

Because it's, you know, looking at like nine milligrams per like a huge, huge dose of salt. Yeah. So that, and then those, that's only going to be really found through salt that's had iodine. added to it. You'll of course get trace minerals in your either, you know, I like Hawaiian salt or Celtic salt or Malayan salt, though you'll get your trace minerals in there. But when you look at like the diets that either you or I are like from a macro perspective or coaching people with, you know, they're great. And overall, I really believe they are, they're fantastic. And, And they're low, those foods, those foods are low in iodine, or they're completely sufficient

in iodine, which is typically the case. And part of that soil, part of that is just those foods have very low iodine levels. Japan has so much more because they're eating sea vegetables. And the thing thing there is some of those sea vegetables have moderate to high levels of heavy metals. I was just going to say thallium, I mean, we test heavy metals. a lot. And thallium, it comes out in everybody. And when I researched it, you know, nuclear fallout in water and we've got an issue. So I, my daughter is obsessed with seaweed. She's always been obsessed with it. And I've wondered as if there was like a deficiency that she's

had that she's been trying to get it. And, and, you know, on one hand, you're like, well, seaweed, that's awesome. You should let her, you know, eat it. And then I think, I don't know where it comes from. It's like that's sort of a scary path to try to get it from seaweed, I would think. Right. I've heard that kelp is better, but for just some reason, like where it's grown, how it's grown, how it's harvested, something like that. But the specific there, I don't remember, but this is a reason why we put a fairly large dose in our iodine. It just, and it's one of our few products that has a really neutral taste. Like all of our products,

yeah, yeah, minerals are water. Yeah. I mean, they're, yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're not as tasty as coffee. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I noticed the magnesium was kind of salty, the little tablets when I took them, but I like that.

I mean, I'm a salt lover, but I was like, there's something different here. Why do these taste salty? There's got, I mean, I've taken magnesium for a long time. There's something different here because none, none, none of the other ones I've taken have tasted salty. So, you know, now in talking to you, I hear that there's a thoroughness and how you put your formulas together. That is why so many people are seeing such great results with it. So would it be fair, would it be fair to say that anybody who has a thyroid problem has an iodine deficiency?

I, I would say so, yes. I would say unless they have an overactive thyroid, of course. where they're, you know, producing too many hormones. I think even, quote unquote, hyperactive thyroid is typically intermittent with low and high. Right. Right. So it's spitting and sputtering. So there may be, you know, a ratio there that's really out of whack.

So some of the key minerals that we have that have found that are key for thyroid that I put in peak thyroid, are zinc and copper as well as selenium as well as iodine. And then for people that want even more iodine, they can take our iodine supplement. We put a little bit in our upgraded memory supplement as well. I mean, it's key for brain function. So everyone, I would say even someone that is hyperthyroid, you still want them to have, you know, like a minimal amount like 300 micrograms is what we put in upgraded memory. I worked on that for a couple of different years.

It's been out for about a, I don't know, a year and a half now. And they would, yeah, I would say that, you know, you want a baseline of that. And then you want to adjust the other minerals in your body to smooth out your overproduction of that hormone. So, you know, you probably also want to strengthen your adrenals and provide the key minerals that support adrenals. So yeah, those are those are different things. Can you overdo minerals?

Like, you know, this is a question we get with vitamin D a lot. They're like, can you overdo it? And my answer usually is you can, but the chat we're so vitamin D deficient that let's start by just getting you in a normal range. And then there's a point at which you can stop the supplementation. Do you feel like it's the same with minerals? Like it's really hard to overdo because we've, we're so deficient. That's such a, such a great question. So there are certain minerals that you, that are easier to overdo than others.

So like soon we'll have our, depending on when it's theirs, our upgraded iron will be out. And people can be deficient in that. But it's, it's easier to, to recover sometimes, you know, a, a iron deficiency than it is to recover, you know, either. iodine deficiency, that can take a long time. But you'll notice that you'll have cold hands and feet, for example, if you have iodine deficiency or have other symptoms of low thyroid. And those symptoms will start to go away. You'll become like if you just cringe at the thought of an ice bath or jumping in cold

water, you know, then you might have, you probably have iodine deficiency. Yep. That's me. That's the one biohack. I'm like, gosh, I should do it. I should do it. But I cringe. It's tough.

I mean, it really is, right? And I was that way, too, a couple years ago. For me, it took somewhere between nine and 11 months of me dosing iodine pretty heavily. I was doing our dose, which is five milligrams a day. Of course, it's a dropper. So people, if they want just a really small amount, they can all. also do that. And then they can start off maybe higher. They can drop back down. They can just, you know, sort of intuit that part with their, with their hypothyroid symptoms. And this is for

anyone that is, you know, not necessarily diagnosed hypothyroid because it's kind of difficult to be diagnosed hypothyroid if you go to a traditional metaphor. Well said. Right? Because you'll be mineral of the range because that range was based on what an unhealthy population. Yes. So well said. And such a good point. You know, they're only looking at TSA and it's a baseline of a lot of unhealthy people.

So that is such a good point. Thank you. What about fatigue? That's something. What are the minerals we're missing? A lot of people are dealing with just extreme fatigue. And when I say fatigue, it's like not just getting enough energy throughout the day, but what about like when you work

out and you're just like struggling to do a normal workout that you didn't struggle with before? Oh, yeah, this is such a good question. Okay. So most people are going to need these four, right? And there, and again, my whole issue was I was taking the minerals intuitively when I had all the the brain, just the brain fog, the focus issues, all these things. So absorption's key. So that being said, so like magnesium again, potassium again, for sure, and then salt and phosphorus. Those are four that come to mind first.

And then it just depends on someone's levels. Like maybe there's zinc as well. So they're testosterone, their progesterone, either male or female. is regulated in the body by zinc. Now, it's supported, you know, just it's interesting. There's a key connection there, right? And like, so few people know this. It's so key.

It's so key. So, yeah, I love, you know, you and I could teach a master class on this sometime because people need to know this. Yeah. And I can go on and on about all of these things in depth, but zinc is key for that part, the balance between that and copper. We can talk about that later if you want. as it relates to hormones, but, you know, potassium for muscle contraction and adrenal support,

magnesium for the muscles that need to relax, the nervous system that needs to relax. So you can recover, you know, after that workout, even between sets, drop in the parasympathetic. Phosphorus is something I think about a lot. I actually put out a large dose manganese supplement, too, because that RDA is so low and I've seen everyone be deficient in it or not everyone but like I can't say everyone but almost everyone. Yeah. Low in it.

Manganese helps with recovery. Oh, like recovery after workout. So like your, I think triathlete friend or something you were mentioning. Yeah, I think is a guy. So he would be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah, like anyone like that. recovering, bouncing back from a workout and feeling, okay, so I worked out yesterday. I'm ready to go again today. That's key. Magnesium is key for that too. Phosphorus as well, just because it's going to help the utilization of protein. It's key for that. That's why it's typically found in high protein foods. So nature is smart in that way. So smart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I want to go back to what you said about hormones and zinc. Salt. Did I say salt? Yeah. You said sodium.

So sodium, people tell me, well, isn't sodium going to raise my blood pressure? Like, they're scared to do sodium. Help us, help us re-look at sodium because we have been brainwashed to think that sodium's the enemy. Why is sodium needed? So sodium is needed because our heart sits in the bath of potassium and sodium. And for it to relax, it needs magnesium, for it to contract. It needs those. that chemical reaction. And the hypertension studies were done a long time ago. And there's,

there's some evidence to show that it was funded because companies that were in the sugar industry realized that when you ate less salt, you crave sugar more, which is horrible and disgusting and true. That's interesting. So if you eat less salt, you crave more sugar. Yeah. So I, love salt and I don't crave sugar and I'm curious if that's why. Yeah, definitely. If you suddenly went, what, even a couple days without salt at all in your diet or a week even, you would start to think about either, you know, you eat a really healthy diet. So maybe it would be fruits like, oh, I really want those blueberries. I really want those, whatever it is. But yes, there's a big connection. And then, you know, people there, we've also seen that throughout, throughout time, people, the best, or people, like throughout geography, time, cultures.

So temperature changes, climate, different climates is really what I'm trying to say. You know, they, they fared best on somewhere around 4,000 milligrams of sodium a day. but they also weren't living in a super high-paced world. And maybe they weren't all, I mean, in some cases, they were definitely intermittent fasting, right? Right. And they weren't necessarily ideal. But I think of that as a minimum. And that is, you know, in terms of hypertension, you're more likely it caused strain on your kidneys, which from an energy standpoint, one thing I always think about,

after studying chemical engineering is systems of things together. I think of delivery mechanisms. And that's probably why I took minerals and figured out a way to get them the better absorbent body is, you know, typically our problems that we have that we call problems throughout our life or society is either poor delivery, poor absorption, so delivery mechanisms, or it's just some inefficiency. So in the case of our, you know, if our kidneys are trying or having a work overtime, in the case they do when we have too little salt, they actually have to work harder to balance fluids in the body because it balances interstitial fluids and cells, right? And yeah, it's just really, really fascinating because knowing what I know now,

about salt excretion in the body, our kidneys can, like the average set of kidneys can pump out over three pounds of salt per day, 3.2 pounds per salt per day. And yet we're concerned that 5,000 milligrams might be too much. Right. It isn't. It's also self-regulating. I mean, Mindy, you love salt, right? Have you ever eaten more salt when you're tired of salt when your tongue was like, oh.

No, no. Yeah. Yeah. And my blood pressure has never been an issue. But, you know, what hopefully just so our audience knows, they have now proven that that's more of a sugar issue. That's more of a bad fat issue. It's not a salt issue. But we still have doctors that are still looking at their patients and saying your blood pressure is high, get off salt. That is like an old school theory that that doctor needs to get repatterned on.

So, and they need to get up to speed. Let's go back. I want to make sure I don't miss this because this was really interesting what you said about zinc being a precursor to progester and testosterone. So where my brain went on that is, you know, I have this real strong philosophy that women over 40 need to start making changes to their lifestyle because the ovaries are starting to wind down. Progestrone and testosterone are two hormones that are pretty going to go down pretty quickly for women. and they're going to miss them. So could we, should we get every woman over 40 supplementing with zinc so that we can get those hormones to the best they can be?

I mean, they're never going back to the level they were at 30, but could, will we maximize their testosterone and progestone production? I want to say straight away, yes, just with a caveat that we test levels and we understand that, you know, where their copper is. So maybe they took a bunch of iron supplementation when they actually needed copper. That being said, zinc is so key. Yes, I would want women supplementing, especially around that age, supplementing zinc because it will help decisiveness.

There's such a clear link. This is really fun. So I know you told me a lot of couples listen to the show. and something that you find in relationships is that there's this balance between zinc and copper. And copper can be thought of because it regulates estrogen as very feminine and think as a good masculine element. It's like so it's and it's for both are for men and women where we we both need both. And let's say you have to. too much copper. Well, male or female, you'll have this ungroundedness. And taking more zinc

can balance that. And we'll get into why, we can also talk about why the opposite can not, there can be issues and you want to test. But if you have too much copper, you get really creative, but it's hard to follow through on things. So there's an unground. And that's like pretty feminine. And then with no masculine. With this balance, you know, with zinc, zinc is thought to be, you know, guiding sort of gathering, in terms of like bringing together things. So it's very, it helps with decisiveness. It helps with being analytical. So if you have a very analytical job and you suddenly start consuming lots of foods that are high in copper, which, you know, people can search a list of that online really quickly. But, you know, some of them are, are foods that we

think of as being incredibly good. Now, soil may or may not have them. So the particular exact foods that you're putting in your mouth, depending on whether they're grown, whether or not they're organic, they may or may not have much of these. You should still obviously consider eating organic all the time, if possible, because we want to get rid of all the junk and pesticides and whatnot. obvious, right? But that being said, the soil may still be completed. So, so understanding your levels there and understanding this, this balance is really key. So, for example, let's say we have a woman that is very high in zinc and she's in a relationship with a man that's really started eating, maybe supplementing copper in through multivitamins or through, you know,

taking standalone minerals or eating a lot. lot of copper rich foods like avocado, cacao, things like that, dark chocolate. So things like that. So you start to see a lack of polarity in the relationship and therefore a lack of attraction because they're interesting. Yeah. Isn't that fascinating? See, so this we've never heard anyone talk about this. Yeah. So we should talk about it more because I have that'll be a whole other episode, I have a theory that marriages, relationships start to fall apart as a woman is when she goes over 40. And the reason for that is her hormones are going off. And when her hormones go off, she, her personality changes. Now, if the woman understood, like, I have spent so much time

understanding my hormones that I'm able to articulate to my husband, like, hey, my progesterone's low right now. I'm just feeling a little anxious. This is what's going on. And so it's really been helpful in the relationship. And if the man understood as well what was going on, then he could end up being, or any partner could end up saying like, oh, I get your behaving like this because there's a deficiency. Now you've got me thinking, we could take it one step deeper and we could say, well, you have a mineral deficiency. I have a mineral deficiency. Instead, I mean, think about how many relationships fall apart because of a lack of congruency. And what if it's a hormonal and mineral deficiency that's creating that lack of congruency.

Exactly. I mean, we're elemental. I'll just emphasize that one more time for people like to really let that sink in. We are elemental. So is it important to test the elements in our makeup? Nice. Yeah. I believe so.

I love this. And again, we should do a whole thing on minerals around cycle and compatibility. So we'll bring you back for that. And we can geek out on that. Let me finish up with a couple of. things. One, how do people find you? How do they find the minerals? And you have a very, a discount code for my audience, which I appreciate. Yeah. Yeah, they can, yeah, you guys can use code PELS, P-E-L-Z, right? At checkout for 15% off anything in your first order. Thank you.

And just for being a listener of the show and listening this long, listening to us. Yeah, you made it this long. Now you know you get a discount. So thank you. 15% off is very generous. So appreciate that. And the website is upgraded formulas.com. So upgraded with an ED and formulas, F-O-R-M-U-L-A-S with an S on the end. You can find this on YouTube, I think forward slash upgraded formulas. Just search that and it will come up. And we put out some good videos there.

We'll include all the links in the notes so people have it. I have five rapid fire questions for you. What book or books have you read that have changed your life that you just were like, this was a game changer. My life was never the same again. Oh, my God. The Dow De Ching, it's spelled D-A-O and the D-ching. That was a great one.

I remember reading that, like on a train outside. like from Prague to Munich and just having so many epiphanies. The one thing was kind of like a business book, also a mindset book. Straightline leadership was a mindset book, business book, just that was just filled with like truth and like kind of hard truth, really. Love it. Just got all the chemical engineering stuff. I was going to say you're going to give like some.

Some scientific book. Yeah. If you really want to know, there was like this and that book of thermodynamics and fluid mechanics that was amazing. But then you also have to have like a minor in math to understand a lot of it. Maybe I'll be some people like that. Yeah. The approachable ones, the awesome ones, I love poetry by Roomy, R-U-M-I.

Oh, yeah. Rumi.U-M-I. Yeah, Rumi's great. And then got Hafez, H-E-S-H-E-E-E. J. F. Isk. The gift by Hefez is just poetry. And this is calming. This is also health stuff too, right? Because anytime you calm your nervous system, maybe you wind down or you start your day with something soothing that reminds you that, hey, everything's going to be okay. The more you start to trust yourself, the lower your burn rate is on nutrients too. I love it. What I just learned from all those books is you're a deep thinker.

You're a philosopher. That's, yeah. And we're going to create. at the end of this season, we're going to create a massive book list of all of our guests and like what they've done. So the books they've recommended. Okay, if you could go back to your 20-year-old self and give him any advice, what would you say to him? Oh, my God. Two things. One, don't ever take five-ins or adder all, no matter even if a lot of people you know are doing it, even if you feel like you need it, drink. Even coffee or tea would be better. Neutrophic would be better. And that if one relationship doesn't work out, then another will just trust that.

The right one is coming. You're learning lessons along the way. I love it. I love it. And okay, for our male audience, what are some of your, like, favorite hacks, whether for life or for health that you think are like unique to men that men should be implementing? Sure. So we have both a men's hormone health bundle that I just.

That's my first thought where my mind goes first. I can think of other things too. We also, by the way, we have a women's hormone health bundle too. But the upgraded memory is key for men. It's good for both men and women, but it's really, really key for men. All of those elements help memory. They also are synonymous with balanced hormones,

particularly like testosterone, that's true. I mean, testosterone, progesterone, things like that. Other things from men. And God, there's a great book that I read that was incredible. It's the masculine in relationship is the best book on relationships from a male standpoint, like healthy masculine that's still an anchor, a lighthouse in the world. Love it. Yeah, that book is incredible.

I think any, I feel like anyone could read it and read it. really appreciate the point of view. It's just written. Yeah, it's great. Love it. Like I said, we're a big book fans. So, okay, what you're, I know you're big biohacker. So outside of minerals, what, what's your favorite biohacking tool? Oh, I really like hyperbaric oxygen. Like getting in the tube, if, if, if you can do that, um, that I just feel so lit up after. Yep. I like cold water before bed, not super cold. So I'll jump in Barton Springs here where I live. You live in Barton Springs and your name is Barton Scott.

Yeah, I know. That's kind of strange. So fitting. I literally can walk there from here. And, and hop in. So I'll do that maybe two hours before bed, let my body tend to kind of, you know, modulate and get some really deep. sleep. And then meditation. I do, I meditate. Certainly every morning, a lot of times twice a day. And in the evenings, I sort of enjoy your evening post work. It's just a great reset.

It's like more present, more thankful. You realize you achieve more than you thought you did, things like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just spoke at the International Hyperbaric Association, their conference. And I talked about how we can time hyperbaric to hormones. I'm, I'm obsessed with timing everything to hormones now. That's why I want to chat with you offline about minerals. But anyways, just the stories of healing with hyperbaric is unbelievable. So, yeah, last question. If you had one message for the world that you could get in everybody's brain,

what would that message be? Test don't guess for sure. By testing, it improves your intuition. And then I'd say as a bonus, just know that other people's actions aren't a reflection. of you. Hey, resetters. I just want to start off by saying thank you so much for all your wonderful reviews and those of you that have left me comments on iTunes. I just greatly appreciate your thoughtfulness and how much you guys are enjoying these episodes. And it seems like you're enjoying them as much as I am enjoying doing them. One of the things that I've learned in just

interacting with so many people is that we've really lost the art of deep conversations. And for me, the Resetter podcast stands for having meaningful conversations with people who are thinking about health, about life, about mindset in a way that we may not be getting on social media or in mainstream media. And so I just want to say, give you guys a shout out and just say, thank you for participating in this process with me. Because as much as I absolutely love delivering the information to you, I love even more knowing that it's impacting your life. So please let us know if there's anything we can do to make this podcast more customized

to you, to make it better. We are now officially in season two, and we are working to bring you the best conversations that health influencers have, that mindset changers can give. and to really deliver you something that you're not able to get anywhere else. So from the bottom of my heart, as I always say my YouTube, from the bottom of my heart, I am deeply appreciative of you. I am deeply grateful to be on this journey with you, and let's get healthy together.