Live Like a Girl with Dr. Mindy Pelz - Danica Patrick's Health Journey: Hormones, Detox, and Breast Explants

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

For full show notes, resources mentioned, and transcripts, go to: www.drmindypelz.com/ep138/. To enroll in Dr. Mindy's Fasting membership, go to: resetacademy.drmindypelz.com. This episode is all about how we, as women, can create an incredible customized path for our own healthcare. Danica Patrick is admired by millions as a trailblazer and especially as a role model for young people, women and men alike, aiming to rise to challenges and pursue their own passions. As a serial entrepreneur, she has launched successful ventures from apparel to wine, including her American and French labels, Somnium, a collection of fine wines grown in California's Napa Valley, and Danica Rosé, an elegant bottling from the heart of the Provence region. Recently she debuted her new lifestyle brand VOYANT by Danica, a home scent collection utilizing the functional power of fragrance through essential oils and other natural ingredients. Danica Patrick continues to prove her multimedia appeal: as a television sports analyst and commentator, as the author of the self-help book Pretty Intense, and as host of her weekly Pretty Intense podcast, interviewing top athletes and celebrities. From her racing days to the present, she remains a popular personality who's appeared in music videos and commercials, including a record-setting 14 Super Bowl commercials, and has lent her voice to videogames and cartoons such as "The Simpsons" and "South Park." Equally recognized as a savvy businesswoman as well as a pop culture icon, Danica has landed on numerous "Favorite Female Athlete" and "Most Powerful Women" lists, including Time's "100 Most Influential People." Danica Patrick began her singular journey at a young age. As an IndyCar then NASCAR driver, she broke barriers and set records as a fierce competitor in the traditionally male-dominated world of motorsports before retiring in 2018. Danica garnered international acclaim by finishing fourth in her very first Indianapolis 500, going on to achieve another first as a female racer with her victory in the IndyCar Series Indy Japan 300 race. Her unique experience, perspective, and charisma make Danica Patrick a coveted speaker for a breadth of corporate, lifestyle, entertainment, and sports-related events, from motivational engagements to entrepreneur gatherings. Please see our medical disclaimer.

If you keep seeing a feather every time you take a step and walk somewhere, just take that as your little sign from the universe, that you're on the right track, you know, start tuning into the energy of things, and then you'll get your answers. Resetters, Dr. Mindy here, and I am on a mission to teach you just how powerful your body was built to be. This podcast is about giving you the power back and helping you believe in yourself again. Let's jump in. on this episode of the Resetter podcast, I bring you the one and the only Danica Patrick.

Now, let me tell you a little bit about Danica and let me tell you a little bit about this conversation because I'm not joking. We went deep into a lot of different pieces of women's health that you may not ever hear on a podcast before. So the conversation was so to the point, so heartfelt, was so heartfelt, was all about women's empowerment because who Danica is is a woman who did something that no other woman had done before. She is the most successful woman in the history of America in open wheel car racing. Her victory in 2008 indie Japan 300 is the only win by a woman in an indie car series race.

She is a badass. She is a woman that gets a woman that gets stuff done. And as you will hear on this podcast, she is on an incredible health journey. So she brought me on to her podcast. It's called Pretty Intense. And I would go listen to it because we had a great conversation about women's hormones and fasting. And she brought me on to her podcast to talk about fasting, to talk about detox because she had just gotten her breast implants out. And I had seen her all over Instagram posting pictures. of this explant surgery. And I was shocked.

I could not believe that a woman with that many eyeballs on her with a woman of that level of fame in our country was so vocal about getting these breast implants out that I wanted to talk to her about what that process looked like. So in this episode, you're going to hear us go through her toxic history. I think this is really important because I talk about concepts like the toxic buck and toxins we inherit from our family and toxins we accumulate and how something that seems as benign as breast implants can start to tip our toxic bucket and we start to see things really emerge in our health that weren't there before prior to the implants. And I've coached so many women

through this process that I know how emotionally depleting that decision is. And I know how physically and emotionally rewarding the outcome can be. So I wanted to bring Danica on to talk about that. But more importantly, what you're going to hear in this conversation is really how we as women can start to create an incredible customized path for our own health care. Danica, although she was raised in a very unusual upbringing, you'll hear she moved to Europe to do car racing when she was 16. We talk a lot in this episode about what it was like to be a female in a male dominant car racing world. That was really interesting. And then what it was like to exit that world and what she's been up to since then and how she's been approaching her health.

There are so many nuggets of information in here. I can't wait to share it with you. You'll see it was very long. We went over time and stay through till the end because I know that Danica loves to talk about consciousness. I know that she loves to talk about extraterrestrial beings. And so we went into that at the end. It's so flipping good. Such a great episode. Danica is such a joy.

And her healing journey will not only educate you, but will inspire you. And I hope that conversations like this give you permission as a woman, if you're a woman listening to this, to really step in to a different paradigm for your health. Because you are worth it and you are that powerful. So enjoy. Let me just say welcome to the Resetter podcast. I love it. I love all your content. I can only hope that this helps some people as that is the mission. Yes, totally thousand percent. So, okay, here's where I'm going to start with. So I did a little research on you. I decided to Google you yesterday and learn a little bit about your upbringing.

And so my first question, I'm sure everybody asks you this, is how the heck do you get into car racing as a teenage girl? Like, can we just start there? How did that come about? Yeah. Well, so my dad, so all the way back, my mom and dad met on a blind date at a snowmobile race when they were like around 20. So my dad was racing snowmobiles and my mom was going to the track because she had a friend who was who loved going to the races.

And so actually that's who set him up on a blind date. Her name is Sue, which is why my middle name is Sue. So they went on the blind date, hit it off. And I came along about 10 minutes later. And they got married, it had me. And so my dad kept racing and he raced all the way until my sister was born, which was only two years after me. And so we were looking for something to do together as a family to spend time together. My dad worked a ton and my mom stayed home.

And so naturally racing was an option, but really it was somebody in our neighborhood that raised go-karts. And that kid went to school, went to our school, and one of them was in my sister's grade. And so she's two years younger. And so we went and looked at the go-karts, went to the racetrack. Brooke my sister was the one who really wanted to do it. And I've realized in my older age now, not old, but older, that I'm really up for anything. Like, I'm just kind of a sure.

I've learned through some DNA testing that I have high dopamine receptors. So, like, everything is fine for me. Like, let's do it. Yeah. So I said, let's do it. And it turned out to be something that I was really good at. And I like doing. And I kept doing it.

My sister quit. in the first year. And so my mom did it for a little while. And then, you know, that's just a contentious situation. And so trying to race with my dad. My dad's super intense. And so then I kept going. And then when I was 16, I moved away to England. So I started when I was 10. And it was really just a way to spend time together as a family. Okay. And at 16, you moved to England to race? I did. Yeah. I lived there for three years. So and you, so you dropped out of like school or you did school in England? Like I only did school in England. I only did school in England first. So I went there and it was junior year and it was the first semester of junior year. So I couldn't drop out of school

yet or I didn't drop out of school yet. It was, I was gone half of that first semester. Like I was there for the first month, gone for two months and then there for the last month. And then I decided to go live in England full time. And so, um, so then I did drop out of school after Christmas that year. And, um, then I got my GED, my good enough diploma. Oh, you know what? Some of the most intelligent people that I've met doing podcasting are people that did not have traditional school backgrounds. Isn't that interesting? And, you know, I think so much of school just creates this very linear thought pattern. And the minds that I have fallen in love with are the ones that are like, just see learning and life in every aspect of their day, not in a book or in a structured program

like that. So I think I think it's amazing that you didn't go to traditional school. Well, thanks for saying that. I mean, of course, I want my doctor who's cutting me open to have gone to school. Probably my lawyer. It'd be great if my lawyer, you know, had a good, you know, law education. But there's just not many professions that really I feel. like are necessary to go to school. I think there's so much to learn in life. Not only do you learn about the craft that you're interested in, you get into it right away. You learn about it. But then on top of that, you get so many other life experiences too. In school, you're just, there's still so few things that you're experiencing that you would get normally in the world.

So I recommend if anyone's interested in anything, just get going. And on top of that, the only other thing I'd say is travel. Like nothing to grow up fast. than travel. Oh, amen. Amen. Amen to that. Okay. So then my, I'm sure this is the second most popular question you get is, what is it like to be a woman in a sport like that? Like what was, and we're going to take that and talk about your hormones after that. But, you know, no offense, but hormonally we're so different. I can't even imagine what your hormones were doing in that kind of male environment. Well, I mean, shoot, I was on birth control for most of it. So I'm not sure my hormones really did do anything.

Yeah. I don't know. I'd be curious if they really have much of a rhythm when you're on birth control or not. But what was it like? My answer is I don't know any difference. So like I've never been a guy out there. So I don't know what that's like. But I mean, I think that it was just like all eyeballs, you know, meaning if it was a good day and it didn't even need to be

good of a day as another guy to make the news, right? If I finished third, it was news. If I finished third, it wasn't the news, you know? So that's a really good thing. You know, that's a positive. But also, if I, you know, had a bad day or if, you know, I got mad or, you know, had a little, little bit of emotion show, you know, that was also news too. And so, you know, there's both sides of it. And I truly chose to focus on all the good. And I liked being different. I loved being different. In fact, I didn't like it. I loved it. I didn't. I really was capable of dealing with that stress and dealing with the pressure and dealing with the attention. Like, it just didn't. I mean, I get nervous, but it didn't, it didn't derail me. It actually helped me, like, narrow in my focus.

You know, and has many women come after you? Um, you know, God, when I was in IndyCar, one year, I think there was like five of us out there in the Indy 500, which is a crazy amount. And, you know, last year there was none. So, or this past year there was none. I can't remember if the year before, maybe there was one the year before. But it's not like it's all the sudden just been an onslaught of, you know, women that are out there. So, um, I don't, I don't think it. I think it's one of those things. It's like the stock market. You know, it's kind of just steadily going up usually. but there's dips, you know? So it's like dips. So I don't know. There's not that many out there right now. I think it's really interesting because I think as women were at a really interesting time in history. I read a, I read a book earlier this summer. It was called the dark, the dark moon goddess. And it was all about the matriarchal society. And so this is BC that there was, we lived in a matriarchal society where women's intuitions, where ceremony, where connection was really highlighted. And then we moved into a patriarchal society that we've been in,

which has been very focused on this is the way a man does something. This is the way a woman does something and is very, almost the opposite. We were suppressed our intuition. You know, we were hung for being ceremonial and thought of as being witches. And now I look at where we're going. and the world I see is a blending of the two. How do we blend those two? But when we blend those two, you have to say, you know, okay, well, are we going to see more women get into places like car racing?

And are we going to see women on football fields and, you know, places where we typically haven't seen women. We're seeing women now, whether you agree with this or not, you know, in very high political places. And so I think what you did is a lot of. little bit the way I see it as this this meshing of the feminine and masculine coming together in a beautiful world that's thank you for sharing that and I totally agree with you and I'm going to share since I am such a hippie at heart I was in Sedona this weekend and I did a past life regression and the thing that I saw was basically that I was this like like Native American medicine woman and that I was doing, people didn't want to buy or I was, they were not like

selling, they weren't buying my medicine, my like herbs and tinctures and things. So then I just started doing ceremonies. And that lasted for like 10 years. And then I, the men didn't like it because it was all women coming to ceremonies. And so in this regression, I, this is me visualizing this by the way. This is, I've had regressions where people tell me things. And then I've This was a regression where I told the story. And I stopped. Like I just stopped what I was doing because I was either going to be killed or I had to like go leave. And I didn't know where to go.

And so I couldn't keep doing it or outside be dead. But the message was, and this is why I'm saying it, is that what came through so strongly was that my like my vision of my life became so like dark, like gray. Like there wasn't really a lot of substance to it anymore. And I just kind of died at like 40 years later. like 30, 40 years later old, like 70 years old, just kind of like that. And so the point is, is that I died anyway. Because I wasn't doing what I should have been doing and what was natural and what was like nourishing and feeding my soul, I died anyway. Oh my gosh. So do what you love doing. Oh my gosh. I got chills. So this is, we're going to get into health here in a

moment, but I just want to say that this is like my vision for women in general. And just, you know, and I know we have both men and women that listen to this podcast, but we live in the society that has created these little labels for us and containers for us. And so many people have a passion and purpose in their heart that they don't let flow out of them because of the way the society has taught them. Like, you're this color, you're of this socioeconomic background, you're this sex. So these are the containers you go into. And what I want to see in the new world is that we have no labels. We have no containers. And everybody from the day that they're born is searching for what lights them up. And it doesn't matter. Their sex, their sexual identity,

their social economic background. So I love that idea that you're going to die anyway. So if you're not doing what you should be doing, you're dead anywhere inside. So you might as well do it. And isn't it amazing? Like I, you know, we've been working together for a little while and, you know, even just from watching your videos and and getting to know you that way and then interviewing you, like the passion is so obvious. And isn't it amazing? And I know you work your butt off. Isn't it amazing how when you're doing what you love doing that there seems to be almost endless energy? It actually gives you energy. It doesn't rob you of energy. It actually, and I've done both. Like I've done things that are, you know, take a bunch of energy. and I'm depleted. And I've done the things to take a bunch of energy and I'm actually rejuvenated. And so, you know, like I can do five, six hours of podcasting in a day where I'm doing the interviewing, which is always harder. And I can get done with it and be like buzzing like high from it.

And so I think that's another important message is that no matter what the energy level it takes to do job, if you're in alignment with what's really true to you and what lights you up, like you said, you have endless energy pretty much. Yeah, I mean, we were, I was talking to a bunch of people, hormone experts that were saying that, you know, you can see people who are dopamine depleted. They don't have all the resources to make enough dopamine, but they are super energetic. They're super passionate. And it's almost like once you start to identify what lights you up, you just keep searching for that, wherever that is. Yeah. And if it comes in the form of work, it's, yeah, what a blessing. It's such a blessing.

And then the other thing that I have to tell you, I was thinking as you were talking. So I was born in 1969 and I grew up in the 70s. And I was the total tomboy. And the sport that I loved was baseball. So I was the only girl out on the baseball field. In fact, I have a picture because I grew up in Malibu. I have a picture of, yeah, of Sunny and Cher watching a game because they're daughter that I think is now transitioned, right, to a man was on my team. This is, this is what it was like to grow up in Malibu.

Totally. Here's the funny thing is that when my hormones started to kick in around seven, I was such a tomboy that I was looking for a sport that had a female, like figurehead, like somebody I could go and, and look up to. And at the time, the only feminine figure in an athletic world was Chrissy Everett. And so I saw her and was like, okay, she's athletic. She's a female. That's what I should do. And that I switch sports to tennis. But I always look back at on that. And I'm like, it took one female in a figure in a big public platform to help me see where I fit in. But in the end, maybe I would have done something different if I had had more, more positive female mentors in sports. So, yeah, well, there's, you're leading the way in so many ways, but there's always going to be aspects of our life where we need some four minute mile people, you know, there you go.

Or it in some ways and other people are in other ways. Yeah. And somebody's just got to do it first. And then all of a sudden, as the four minute mile story, somebody runs it and it's never been done. And then all of a sudden that you're like 20 more people did it. Like it just needs to be put into the collective consciousness that it's possible. And then, yeah, changes things. I remember my friend, actually, it's ironically enough, my friend who I was in Sedona with,

she told me when I first met her. I first had dinner with her and I was telling her about sort of what I did. And, you know, she didn't know a ton about it. And she, but she did know. She was aware. And she was just informing me that she's like, you didn't only just change like, women, but men too. Like the effect on the collective that that had, seriously.

And we talked about that this week. we were together. And I'm like, when you said that, it really made a difference because I didn't think about it like that. But it changes the narrative for not only someone like, you know, Chrissy, for you, but also for men, too, to be able to see what's possible. And it changes their consciousness, too. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's so well said. So well said. And that's part of my new, the new earth I want to create is where we just are seeing that anything's possible. It doesn't matter of your sex, color, socioeconomic, whatever, that anything is possible. Totally.

Okay. So now I really want to go into your health because here's what I'm going to tell you is that I watched you do your explant surgery on social media. And I, that was like the first time, I don't know, how you came up on my news feed. And I was like, wow, like not only getting an explant, not only, you know, are, do you have a lot of eyeballs on you, but you're like, fuck yeah, I'm getting these things out and this is why. So let's talk about like, where did you figure out that toxicity might be an issue for you? And where did you start to see your health change that it really needed more attention?

Yeah. I usually, when I'm telling the story, I can go back to the very beginning of when I think I noticed it. But I think it's more important because I didn't, I thought some things, but I dismissed it. So I actually start the story with why I went to the doctor, which was I went to the doctor at the beginning of 2021, spring of 2021, because I lost my cycle. It got delayed a couple months, and then I skipped. And it was just kind of like, ah, this is probably a bad thing. I also felt like in the fall before that, that was sort of like March time of 20, like January, February, March time

of 2021. But, but, like, November of 2020, like, I was like, you know, my body changed a little bit. I felt like I had gained some weight. My, like, my hair is just not the same. Like, just like things that I, I'm like, I was, well, at that point, I was 38. Okay. Okay. And so I was just like, you know, something's not right. I just don't like that what's going on. Weight loss completely was like not possible. It just was like, just not possible. It didn't matter what I did. I mean, I remember even in 2021, later on after I'd been to the doctor, I was like, I went on a trip to Cabo with some girlfriends. And I was like, okay, I think I need a siesta for the liver. Just like we did a boat trip one day.

And I just decided to not drink for like 30 days. And that would be enough to for sure, like, change the body. And because whenever you do that, you're also more conscious of other things like the food and all the other. It's just like you work out more. Like it just tends to be a real waterfall effect. And nothing, nothing changed. like nothing changed. I didn't look any different. I feel any different. And, um, and so I, I, you know, I'd started to really kind of dive into what could be going on. I did, I had my labs done. And the

first thing that came through was that I had, um, uh, underactive thyroid. And so I thought, oh my God, this is it. I'll take a thyroid pill and everything will be fine. This is why I, my hair is not as good as it used to be. This is why I gained some weight. This is, this will be everything. And, and that didn't really, that didn't do anything. So after a couple of phases of increasing the dosage and nothing happening, my, this is just with my OB, I was like, and my hormones were low. We checked my hormones and they were low. He was like, you need a functional doctor. So I worked at the functional doctor for a while. But in the meantime of getting that functional doctor, I had, my boyfriend at the time gave me an awesome book by Ben Greenfield Boundless. And so I started

like in getting interested in biohacking and all the things. And so I was like, oh, I'll interview Ben. And so I asked Ben at the end of the interview when we were done. I was like, if I wanted to know like what to eat, when to eat it, how to work out, when to work out, all those kinds of things. Like just like dial me in. It was like, all right, do these tests. And then we'll talk about it after, which we actually ended up doing for another podcast.

We just talked about the review, which might have been boring for people. It's interesting in that the information you get, but it's not your body. So, but it's still interesting to see how. deep the information can go. And so I had started getting all these tests like stool test, Dutch tests, like stools for like, you know, parasites and GI and just like all kinds of your microbiome, Dutch test for hormones. I did a blood draw for checking for food sensitivities for leaky gut. I did a genetics test for certain genetic pathways. I did a couple others. there was like five or six different tests.

And oh, yeah, environment, sort of toxins. And then with my functional doctor, we added one more, which ended up being like a really interesting one, which was a provoked urine test for heavy metal toxicity. And so, yeah. And I mean, that's how I got on to you was toxicity. Like fasting and hormones all came later. Like there wasn't many people speaking about the process of detoxing. from heavy metals. Yes. And so that's how I got interested in you last year. And so the heavy metal

report came back and I had like through the roof mercury. Like the threshold is five and mine was 170. And I had heavy met like thallium, selestium and lead and one other one. And then mercury were all elevated. There was one. I'm trying to remember because I wondered cadmium, I want to say, I wondered if you got it from car racing, like from brake pads. You and I talked about that. There was one that I was like, wow, this came from an environmental, unique environmental source. That's very likely. I mean, there were times in my career at the end, the last couple of years, I was getting migraines.

And it would be easy to like trigger the migraine. Like, let's say I could get it anyway. It was rare that I would just get a migraine just from the driving. but let's say, I mean, I would, but let's say I had like one drink on Sunday night after the race. I would, one, and I would have a two-day migraine. So it was very easy to trigger, like, trigger that. And so I had, I thought maybe I'm getting carbon monoxide poisoning. And I, and I, for racers.

I checked my, I did it. I checked my, would it be my CO2 level before I got in the car. And then I got out of the car and immediately got on, golf cart and to go back to my bus, which is how it always goes, you get out of the car and you walk straight to the golf cart and leave. And someone was right there with the test to do it again. So I immediately did it after I get out of the car. And I think it went from like zero to three. And they were like, that's not a big deal. They're like smokers are a 10. So I realized that probably that's not the problem. But that could have been the initial phase of some of that heavy

metal toxicity, which when we loop in the breasts implants, which I got when I was 32, like I had had them now for a few years. And so that that could have been accumulating in my, in my blood and in my body. And in my, well, I mean, it goes into fat cells, right? Mercury and lead goes into, lead goes into the bone. Well, lead is more hereditary in the bone. And so, you know, who knows. But, but anyway, so I got that heavy metal report back and that was high. So I went through a phase of like doing gut rehab for 90 days, cutting things out of my diet, taking certain pills. I had a level like a seven out of 10 dysbiosis.

So like gut bacteria was not perfectly balanced. And so that I was doing that. That didn't help. I got biosis at the end of the year in November. Like these were tests done in the summer. So about four or five months later, my dysbiosis was 10 out of 10 now. I had another bad strain or another strain of vector. that was unwanted. We never checked my leaky gut again because at the time my doctor was like,

it's not going to be better. And I was like, hmm, why am I spending 90 days doing all this stupid shit? Like taking on skills. That's not motivating. Yeah, that's not motivating. And she, and I know that it's hard on the body, but she was like, you're running, you're training for the Boston Marathon. This isn't going to help you. We need things to calm down. So my provoked test later in the year was better. It was better because I had done some chelation. But, And doing like chelation and running the marathon, like heat really gets me. Like as I've seen recently even like working out being back in Arizona, because I spent two months in Indiana getting out of the heat. Like my body and also on top of that now I'm doing so many other modalities.

It just it's it zaps me. But anyway, to get back on track, I did a whole bunch of tests in the summer really got going on, you know, many different protocols. I tried, then at the end of the year, I got on to another doctor who was actually passed on to me by Ben Greenfield. And so then I did some NAD, like loading phase of NAD, like five out of 10 days. I tried. Yeah, that's a lot of NAD. And I felt it was hard. I took like the, I mean, the, she came to my house to do the, to do the drip.

And I mean, it took like three, four hours each time just by the time she got here and got the IV and, you know, did the drip, took a couple hours. So, you know, that was time consuming. And I didn't feel good doing it. I mean, you have to take Zofran. It's so rough. And then, I mean, you, like, one of the things that I love about you is you're like, okay, let me do everything.

And I'm not just going to do everything a little bit. I'm going to just go all in. Like, you definitely did everything. Yeah. I did peptides too. I thought peptides would help. Pathfides didn't do anything. Yeah.

And so basically now you've heard me stumble along a whole bunch of tests and a whole bunch of protocols and a whole bunch of different things. And then finally, so now we're entering into early 2022. And it was like February, January, February. And I just finally hit a wall. And I was like, nothing helps. Nothing makes me feel better. And I was like, I just, I for some reason, started watching more breast implant illness

stories and videos on YouTube and following like Instagram stories of people and watching their journey. And I just was like, I got to get these out. So I made a call in March. I remember I was on vacation and tell you ride. And I was like, hi, I'd like to make an appointment. They're like, okay, we're booking consultations for June and surgeries for October. And I was like, I mean, here we are in August. And it's been done for months.

So at first I was like, uh, and I don't know what to say. So I'm like, well, we better get the ball rolling. And so I said, if there's anything that comes up any sooner, please let me know. And so I was booked for like June. And then an opportunity for surgery came up in June. And so I put a down payment for that. And I hadn't even done the consultation yet. And then they said, I mean, I did get some little extra special service.

Yeah, I was going to say, you didn't pull the Danica and Patrick card. I didn't pull it. They allowed. They gave me the. And then they, I remember I was in, then it was May and I was on my 40th birthday. I mean, my goal for my 40th birthday,

probably like anybody else in their 40s like, I'm going to be in the best shape of my life. Oh yeah. I'm going to. I was in the worst fucking shape of my life. Like I was in the worst like inside and out. And so, um,

so I was on my birthday trip with nine girl friends on a yacht in the exumas and it was heaven. Um, and I'm, like busy on the phone because they're telling me now that there's a May date, or sorry, an April date that I can get in for, sorry, the trip was in April. My birthday is March 25th. We went the first week of April.

And there was in like an April 27th surgery date. And I was like, oh, my God. And so I told them I have to leave eight days after the surgery because I had to go work the Formula One race in Miami. And I was like, is that enough time? And so then I'm in the back bedroom with my, I don't remember. who took the pictures. Maybe my sister, I don't remember. But I was like, hey, I need you to take some pictures in my boobs. I need to send them to the doctor. They need to check and see if I'm basically like

eight days. Lise them up. Yeah, they need to size them up. Literally. And so I have like a sunburn line because I had like a tube top on and it was like day one and I got like a sunburn right away. And so I looked ridiculous. But I sent them and they're like, you should be fine. So so that so then I booked it for the 27th got them out. And immediately. So the thing was is that I had my surgery appointment because again, I got in last second. It was at 2.30 in the afternoon. I was better at fasting. I would have felt better all day.

Yes. Very true. I got home by like five. And that night, I'm like, by time I finally kind of came out of the drunken haze from the drugs. Like I remember I like touched my face and I was like, oh, wow. And like I had my own like oil was being produced on my skin for the first time. And I just forgot what it felt. like I just I just didn't even think about it you know I just my scalp had been dry for years like I didn't I didn't notice yeah I knew to notice my scalp but I didn't notice that I didn't think about the whole body being in effect and so when that happened I was like oh my God like my body's saying thank you and I woke up in the morning and I mean we're like 12 hours out from surgery and I'm like I've got drains because they that's where I saw on Instagram yeah yeah half

to do drains. And I'm like, they're so small. Do I really? My worst scar is from the drain on one side. And so I'm walking around the kitchen and I'm like pacing in the kitchen and my mom is here to take care of me. And I'm like, mom, I just have so much energy. I don't know what I mean like, we should go grocery shopping. And like so like it's like seven in the morning and seven 30 we're like at the grocery store and I've got a big sweatshirt on to like hide my giant drains on my body. and I felt amazing. Like, I mean, 48 hours, the drains came out because there were so little fluid coming out. I mean, that night, 48 hours later, I probably shouldn't up.

But my mom and I shared a bottle of wine. Like, you know, we played Monopoly. And I was like, like, I was able to like do yoga shit and put my hands behind my back and stretch. And I did an interview with the doctor because when I, I, and obviously 48 hours later getting the drains out and feeling so amazing was the day that I also shared, you know, I shared that I had done the surgery and I had no plans on sharing it unless it did something. Like I had been kind of sharing my medical journey a little bit and I, um, and my curiosities about the body, but I was like, I'm not going to share anything until it works.

And trust me. Like I thought the gut protocol would have worked. I thought the thyroid medicine would have worked. I thought the peptides would have worked. I thought the peptides would have worked. I thought the, you know, I thought every protocol I tried would have worked, every one of them. And they didn't. And so it wasn't like I just, I thought. So of course, here comes the breast implants getting removed. And I mean, I think hopefully this works and it did. Like that's the thing is,

is that finally did something. And so I shared that. And I was like, oh, man, mom, should I, should I, should I do this? And she's like, well, you're probably going to tell everyone anyway. And I'm like, And so I just hit send and I'm so glad I did. But I mean, I was doing an interview with the doctor for Good Morning America like, you know, four days later because it had just caught fire. And I'm so grateful because there are so many people that have, you know, passed along their gratitude for it. And there's been really good stories since. Yeah. Yeah.

And I know, I know you know this like when you stand up and show, hey, I'm making, drawing a line in the sand for my health. and my health is more important than the size of my breasts or what they look like. You know, it really, like, you just give all women permission to reevaluate how we look, A, our breasts, and B, what we do to toxify ourselves for beauty. And that, to me, is the biggest heartbreak that I have is that so many women in the name of beauty are destroying their mental and physical health without knowing. It's innocent. They don't realize what they're doing. So I loved watching it all on Instagram. And I guess I guess they like close the loop on the whole like my symptoms. I probably can go back to and it's also a good lesson too. I can track it back to probably 2018. It didn't seem to do anything. I got them. I think at the end of 14. So 15, 16, 17. I didn't notice anything. But as soon as like the beginning of 18 hit, I felt like I had like an ink. incremental like like I had weighed like 110 pounds my whole like for at for so long and then all the sudden I was like you know five pounds you know I was like weird it wasn't super noticeable on my body but I knew it was there as a number goes and I was like that's so weird and I thought well I don't know I was like maybe my hormones are off because that was what I thought like I because I would work out a little bit more like change my diet things that would totally make a difference and they weren't doing anything and I thought maybe my hormones are off and then.

And I just did the overpower things thing that I would tell anyone. Of course, I told myself the same thing. And I was like, try harder, do better, push harder. This is just like getting older. This is just like you've got to do more. And I'm sure that I completely, you know, drove myself into the ground by, you know, working out more stressing about it, period, eating less at times. Like all those things are not going to help.

And so if I would have listened. Was this after the implants? This is, yeah, this is after. So this is like 18. So I got them. So it was about three years after I got them. Yeah. And I can, and my hair too wasn't the same.

Like I had like this super long dark hair forever. And it just kind of kept getting shorter because it just was kind of breaking off and not growing. And I thought that was age too. So now I'm of the stance that I'm not putting up with it. I'm not that old. It's not going to be this way. I'm going to live to 120. And if this is a quarter, if this is a third of the way, no way, man.

There's totally a way. And I'm not putting up with the old age thing. That's not, it's not flying in my book. Amen to that. Oh, my God. I have so many things to say on that. So for starters, hormones, the hardest part about hormones is that you can't push through them.

And let me tell you, as a type A overachiever woman, like I have that. that same mentality, like push the pain away, keep going, head down. And but when we're trying to bring hormones back into balance, it doesn't work. And it is so hard, which is why I like looking at it more like gas pedal break. Like we need to know when to put the gas pedal on on all things with your lifestyle and when to put the break on. And it's that break that's going to be the hardest. And it's, and, you know, especially for you, but for so many women, it's that we love.

live in that, if we go back to this idea that we live in a patriarchal society that rewards work ethic and rewards success and pushing through. But when it comes to a woman's health, it's not a push on through moment. It's a investigative moment, which is really what I hear is that you were like, okay, what stone haven't I unturned? Exactly. Now we've got to figure out the gas pedal and the break for you, which will be maybe the hardest emotional piece of this for you, perhaps. Oh, great. Great. Just when I thought I had gone through the hardest stuff, hmm. No, it's just, it's just a muscle, that parasympathetic nervous system and how to nurture that is just a hard muscle to nurture. And I think as women, there's a way for us to be strong and

push in. And then there's a way for us to be strong in our vulnerability and strong in our ability to say no and strong in the honoring of our hormones when we need. more progesterone and we're supposed to sit on the couch and chill out. Like, there's strength in honoring the hormone of the day and what's needed. So that's where we're going. I do, however, need you to come and handcuff me to the couch, though, okay? I may. Handcuff me to the couch.

Yes. I may. I always say that one of the things I would love to do is just take people and lock them in a room and fast with them. And I'll just hang there and let them fast because I know the body will heal itself, but it would probably be pretty. brutal. The other thing I want to tell you that I think is really an interesting part of your journey that is so consistent for everybody is, have you heard of the toxic bucket theory? No.

So we're all born with a different size bucket of toxins that we can handle. And this is the where genetics come in. So some humans have these huge genetically big buckets and they can take so many toxins and they'll never have a symptom. And some humans have a very, very small bucket and your genetics determines your size of your bucket, then you inherit a toxic load from mostly mom. It comes through the matriarchal line. So because in the womb, all of her toxins went into you. And when she was in your grandma's womb, all the toxins went into her. So we start to see a pattern of toxins that get dumped into the human that you are. Then you come into the world and you accumulate your own. So the part of your story,

and where the breast implants really kicked in that I see is between that and some emotional stressors, your bucket tipped. And when your bucket got so high and it started to tip, then nothing's going to work. I don't care what parasite cleanse you throw at it. I don't care how many fast you do. The goal is that we've got to empty the bucket. And you did a great job taking the breast implants out because you stopped the barrage of toxins coming in.

Totally. Now the work is emptying the bucket. Exactly. I kind of knew that would come to like, but at least my body will respond. And that's the thing that's been getting some blood work done like 13 days after surgery. Finally, like there was changes within my blood work. And so like thyroid came up just into normal range for the first time. And so I was like, okay, cool. Some stuff's going to kind of heal itself. But there's going to definitely be some stuff that I'm probably going to have to do some more. work for and I might be doing the same work I did before, but at least it's going to make a difference now. So smart. It's so smart. Yeah, that's exactly right. And then the other part of the breast

explant that I think you and I've talked about is that when you remove the source, now you got to go and have I opened up the pathways, the detox pathways to let all of that out. I mean, I love, like the body's built. I love what you said about the body is built to live to 120. Like we're not meant to be sick at 40. So when we are sick at 40, there's an evolutionary mismatch. We are living in the most toxic time in human history, physically, mentally, you know, chemically. So we've got to now go back to the true essence of your body. And then, you know, at 100, you'll be dancing on tables and remembering every story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks to you. And thanks to, you know, just science moving along and more information. I mean,

look, there's a lot of things that technology is like, you know, maybe not the best for. But there are things that it's great for. And it's about having discernment of when to use technology and when to not. Right. Now, I asked you this question and you definitely have a unique mindset. So, but what does it feel like to just have your breasts taken off? Like, is there an emotional, like I can't even imagine. I'm sure you already went through this when they went in. But, there feels something very vulnerable about that experience. Did you, was it just, are you just black and white? And you're like, I'm just going to do this and not think about it.

But I think a lot of women struggle with that. You're going to take my, now we're going to take the breasts off. And it's part of my identity. Well, I mean, I got them in the first place because I thought, well, I'm super fit. I'm lean. I look good. But I just don't have boobs. And I thought, you know, am I going to wait until I'm done with my career and however,

whatever age that'll be? and maybe my body won't be the same. And then who, you know, like I, I was like, man, if I could just kind of complete the package right now. And I got them and I, I'd say the only, I, well, first off, I'll just say, I didn't necessarily, I actually felt more in my body. I actually felt more somewhat insecure at times. Like, I didn't really want people to notice them. Like, I wanted to have them to sort of like complete this like image in my head and to feel a little bit more feminine. and sexy. So I'd say like in a swimsuit and in a dress like where there's you know curves and

stuff like you know, it was nice to fill that stuff out and it did look a little bit better. But when it came to like the actual like feminine sexy part, like I knew they were fake and I knew if anyone touched them. They were fake. And it wasn't, you couldn't forget. I never forgot. I never forgot ever. And and then when I got them out, I actually feel like sexier. Yeah. Ironically. Like I actually, there's nothing to hide like whether I'm no, don't want to wear a bra or whether and now I'm very small, or whether I'm in a in a swimsuit or anything. Like I'm like, I don't care. It's just literally how I look. And then, uh, if someone were to touch them, I wouldn't feel weird because it's just all. It's like, it's like, it's not like I'm,

there's something. There's no, there's no mental barrier there. It's just my body. So I don't, I feel more sexy without them. And I actually felt less sexy sometimes to some degree with them in. So I can't say it really like checked my boxes. It didn't because I'm, I'm so, look, and I'm a girl and I, there's a few things that I'll do to sort of like improve looks and, you know, I'm not 100% natural, but, but I do like mostly natural. And I like, you know, authenticity from the inside to the outside. is important. And we just, you know, I think we're, we're in a point in time. We're definitely on the outside having, you know, looking like yourself.

I think there'll be a commodity on people that actually look like a normal human being and look like themselves and look different from each other. Like someone that looks different. Someone that has, you know, a different sort of expression or the way the shape of their faces. It's like now it's like, you know, filler here to like, like, filler here. to like change things, this filler here. It's Botox in these places to like move the face around.

And, you know, I haven't said it. I do a little Botox. But like maybe I'll end up quitting doing that because I, you know, maybe I'll realize that's toxic too. And I'm like, but I really like that one. That does not make me feel more insecure. And I just do a little bit. Just right here. But, you know, I think that we're definitely living in a time where we're there's so much.

like you said, more toxicity and disconnection from the self. And that does not create confidence. It lacks it and makes you lack more of it because, you know, being yourself and being able to rock that is really, you know, ultimately the goal. You know, they, I heard recently that there's been so much Botox and fillers that they actually with actresses and actors, they're having to bring in some CGI to like make their faces move because, so they have to do post-production because their faces aren't moving so they don't show like empathy, they can't show anger. I've even had some of my friends who have done Botox.

I had a friend one time tell me, I don't think my kids know when I'm angry because I can't like make my head scrunch down. So I'm trying. I mean, you know, obviously it doesn't do a lot. Right. There you go. But I have a scowl face quite a bit. So it's probably a good thing that I look more approachable. But I do, but to your point, I feel like we, this is for women, I'm going to go back to this new world for women, because this is what I, what I feel like conversations like this can create is I really want women to start to think about how we show up physically, mentally, emotionally, a lot different. And that, you know, I believe that where is the naturally aging person? What do they look like? I always tell my following, like, you can just watch me because I'm just going to

keep going natural. And I'm just not going to do all, but I'm also interested in stem cells and exosomes and, okay, I'm willing to go down that path. But when you put a toxin in me, I'm not, that's where my brain shuts down. My other question, and this, you tell me if, if this is too personal, but I got to ask it. Pretty much nothing is. Okay. So one of the things I've had, conversations I've had at ladies nights is about the sensitivity. of nipples and the size of a breast. So what I think a lot of men may not realize, a lot of women might not even realize,

which is oftentimes smaller breasted women have very sensitive nipples. And larger breasted women tell me, this is real breast. They say, oh my God, my nipples are like numb. Like they are not sensitive at all. So did you notice? Sensitive.

Yeah. Did you notice a difference when you had the implants where was there less sensitivity compared to now? I don't think it changed too much. Yeah, I don't think it changed too much, but there's always been sensitivity. And my implants were pretty small. But I would say, I would say maybe, yeah, I don't know.

We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have to go test that. You'll have to go test that one out for me and let me know. Yeah. It seems good. It seems good.

Yeah. But I mean, that's interesting, though, that bigger, bigger breasted women would have less sensitivity. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, and then you, if you look at, okay, well, let's go back to how women, the, the womanly, beautiful, feminine figure is typically that woman who's got big breasts. But, okay, now let's take, let's just say, you know, what is it that you're, if she's a sex, if she's sexy with bigger breasts, that sort of alludes that she's going, you're going to be

more sexy in bed or is going to have more pleasure in bed and it would be something to conquer. And the way I look at it is like actually smaller breasted women have so much more sensitivity that I have seen in research and in discussions than larger breasted women. I don't know. Go us. Yes, go us. I might just be a little bit biased because I sit in the small breasted woman category. Okay, good.

I love it. I love having small boobs actually. I'm so, like, so happy because, I mean, yeah, it's like you can wear all kinds of clothes, too. When you have really big boobs, you have to be careful how revealing it is because it can look a little bit much. But the less boobs you have, the more options you have. Yeah. And let's just talk about when you're working out. It's a lot easier or if you can just walk around without a bra.

Like, there's so many things that are so much easier when you're smaller tested. So that's my plug for that. Okay. tell me what else. Just so people that are listening that are like, okay, I'm hearing you. I'm thinking about doing this. You had the immediate change. What else do you feel like is a symptom that did not come back?

The minute you took it took those implants out, that symptom changed for the good. I would say my energy level came up. Like I naturally just had more energy. And I mean, there's definitely a rhythm to your cycle. and times where you're up and down a little bit, but I have more energy more of the time. My face kind of shrunk a little bit. So there was definitely like some,

we've been working with the lymphatic system. So I mean, like lymph nodes and all through my upper body especially, but I mean, lymph nodes went down right away. And my face went down. Like the oil on my skin and my scalp improved a lot. and, you know, blood markers, hormone markers, endocrine system, and thyroid, those kinds of things all definitely started coming up. So, like, there was definitely just generally like a biological suppression.

Like my body was just like, we're done. And so that's come back. Those are big. Yeah. Those are really big. And I think that this is what one of the reasons I wanted to bring you on. on was just to help women see that sometimes we have to make tough decisions about toxic loads and we have to put a stake in the ground around our health and it's not always convenient,

but it's, but some of the things that we do are so big and so helpful to the body that it's worth it. And so would you say that it's been, I'm pretty sure I know what you're going to say. Has it been worth it? It's totally worth it. And here's the thing. Like I went to a lot of different doctors and And I would bring it up. I brought it up for the last couple of years. Like, oh, do you think this could be it? Shoot, I was even, like, working with a body worker that I use here in town. And I was like, I always had a hard time getting this arm behind my back.

And, like, it always had a lot of shoulder pain, like, even to the point where I couldn't even do it. Like, this one, no problem. But then this one, I'd be like, and I was like, could it just, could it be weird, like, from my implants? And, like, I've been asking questions about them for a while. And the implication of someone, especially a doctor, saying, yes, that's it, is surgery. And that's a big burden, right?

And you don't know their emotional connection to them. You don't, I mean, surgery is always a real thing. You know, going under the knife is a real thing. And so, you know, there's a, there's sort of like a responsibility for saying that that's it. So I understand the discretion that doctors are using to, you know, not discouraged, but at least be in the middle. But definitely there were a lot of doctors that said, you know, I don't think that's it. Let's try some other things first.

You know, like they were very much in the middle, if not, not believing. And so what I would say is that through my own research and effort to watch stories, here, look at the symptoms. And really there's like a, I'm really big on like the quantum field of information coming in and attunement to information. And I think it's coming in that quantum field where it's not just like the word said. Sometimes they trip a trigger, but also there's just like an energy with it. And so like I just like attuned and resonated so much with so many different stories. and I would watch and I'd be like, oh my God, that's me.

And I would just feel it. And so like intuitively, as we're tying the loop from the beginning of the conversation, I was getting back more into that matriarchal like energetic, like the emotion of things instead of that more masculine patriarchal sort of space we've been in, which is mental. You know, that's more mental and feminine's more emotional. And I was tuning in to the emotion and the physical reaction. to these stories that I was having. And it resonated.

And I just, like, felt it strongly within my body. So no matter what anyone says. And I mean, I wish I had to listen to myself back in 2018. And like with the, it's your hormones, maybe, Danica. I would have listened. Listen to your intuition. And that's what I, that's what I did. So this is not for everyone to, does not have to say everyone's like, you for sure got to go

get your implants out. I think anything foreign should just not be a thing. but there's also people out there that have had double mastectomies and they have like literally like divots and they want to have something. And so I understand with compassion that there are certainly situations that are much more serious than just wanting to look better. So but to really trust that intuition, tune into it. And the more you practice tuning into that intuition across the board with every

going on in your life and following those, like looking at those things that happen. You're like, oh, that's interesting. But like pick up on those synchronicities. Pick them up. Pick up. Like, you know, if you keep seeing a feather every time you take a step and walk somewhere, just take that as your little sign from the universe that you're on the right track, you know, start tuning into the energy of things.

And then you'll get your answers. Yeah. Oh, my God. Boom. Mike drop. That was good. I, you know, I always say if I hear something three times, when I hear at the third time, I go, it doesn't matter what it is. My brain goes, oh, okay, that's a message from the universe saying,

you need to go study that. You need to follow that. I also have a place in my body that I feel it when something hits me on a cellular level and I'm supposed to do something. And it used to come in my gut, but now it's like literally on the inside of my being when I'm wanting to make a big decision or I'm trying to figure out how to move forward on something. If I feel the answer is right, I feel it literally in the core of who I am. Wow. Do you have? And that's what I heard of what you just said.

When you just said three times, like one of the one of the responses my body has to yeses when something is true is my body will kind of get a wave of goosebumps. And it's not real goosebumps. It's just like the cells going yes. It's like it's kind of like goosebumps. But it's like yeah. And actually my body's doing it right now. I'm not cold.

I'm just like my body's having this yes. system, say, alert me. So that's one of my really big signs is when my body just gets like a wave of goosebumps. Yeah. And I'm going to go back to where we started this. That's what in the matriarchal world, I think that, and I'm not, again, leaving the men out, but I think that from a hormonal and cellular level as women, that intuitive sense has been there and drives us. But when we're not aware of it because we live in this patriarchal world, when we're not aware of it, we numb ourselves out to it. And you could even look at it with like drugs and alcohol, like when somebody's living incongruently in their life and they're not following their purpose. And their cells are saying,

this isn't right. It's very easy to say, well, I'm going to numb you out because it doesn't feel good to keep having these messages come through my being. Oh, man. It makes me remember this, that when people are disassociated and cold and unemotional, it's not actually that they don't have an emotion. It's that there's too much. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Yes. They try and tune me out. That's too much. They can't go there. It's too much. And can we just say that we live in a world where too much emotion isn't applauded? It's not like people are like, oh, I love that person. They're so emotional. Like they cry sometimes. I agree other times. But, you know, if we come back to the female structure, this is who we are.

Our hormones, if you just look at our sex hormones, you know, one sex hormone makes us incredible, have an incredible gift of gab. The other sex hormone makes us want to go inner and not talk to anybody and gives us incredible intuition and might even make us a little teary. But when we moved into this patriarchal world, we have really gotten disconnected. from that feminine vibe that is so crucial for our well-being. And when I hear you say, I just had this sense, I'm like, yes, that's it. And that's what we need to get back to as women. And that's where our health is going to start to move in a positive direction when we learn how to connect to that.

But it's going to take some hanging around people like you and listening to stories like this to be able to really retrain that part of ourselves. shoot, I'm still working on it, you know? I mean, and the thing is, is that that attunement to the self and feeling the emotions and really letting it, like feeling where it hits in the body and the intuition about it, that doesn't only just help, like, knowing, like, hormonally what to do. That helps to know if you're in the wrong relationship. That helps to know that if you're in the wrong job, that helps to know that if a friend

does not have the best intentions, like, all of that stuff comes through the body. And so once you tune in everything, you can, now you can have discernment when you watch TV and hear something on the news. Like, you know, all of that stuff, it's like you'll now be the lie detector test. So well said. That is so well said. That's exactly. And you'll know what food to eat. You'll know how long to fast. Like everything becomes a really visceral understanding. So, oh my gosh, I love that. Okay, well, I could keep talking about this for hours. I have, there's two questions that I end every podcast or one question I end my podcast with, but I'm going to throw an extra one special one in for you.

Okay. Okay, so are there, do we have extraterrestrial life? And if so, what are they doing? Is that one special for me? Yes. Okay. I was like, you ask everyone that question. No, I don't, but I'm asking you because I want to have the conversation with you.

So, 100%. I don't like I think anyone that thinks that we're the only game in town. I feel like it's kind of, it's kind of a naive or narcissistic sort of thing to think. Like to think that we're the only thing in the universe. And we are just, we are such an average to small like situation in the universe. Our sun is not amazing.

It's not a big sun. Like it's just not amazing. Our planet's beautiful. And I think that we're special and unique. But I don't think that we're the only game in town. And so 100% and I think that, you know, I do, I mean, I remember I did an interview with John Paul DeJoria who started Paul Mitchell and Patron and all kinds of. And he was like, we'll know for sure that there are extraterrestrials within the next sort of five years. And that was a couple of years ago.

So how are we going to know? I mean, look, we've got the space program now and like all kinds of things. How are we going to know? I mean, one intuition. There's got to be. Yeah, there we go. The women are going to tell us. I think our consciousness needs to reach a certain point where we are accepting and not believing in all the propaganda that there's negativity because otherwise if there is actually like an interaction, a meeting of a reality that we see, not just a knowing or some transcendental experience with them.

I think that we're going to have to not think with hostility. We're going to have to be like, okay, there's benevolent extraterrestrials too. And I actually think that when I walk outside at night and I go let the dogs out and I look up to the stars and I'm like, okay, I'm ready. I'm like, but am I? If you come down here right now. And so, but I do think I have this belief that if there was some sort of meeting that I think that they would be able to make you feel so comfortable. Did you ever see the movie contact with Jody Foster and Matthew McConaughey? No.

Well, at the end of the movie, it's her dad dies early, young in her life. And the movie kind of is pivotal around this situation. And she sees him on a beach. And it's this spiritual sort of like, she's on this journey. And like through this, I'm not going to bore you with that. She sees her dad and she's so comfortable. And I think that they would be able to make you feel comfortable in whatever situation. So yes.

Yes. There's got to be extraterrestrials for sure. Oh, I mean, who the hell built the pyramids? Come on. Right. So, but then I wonder, are they, are they walking around in human bodies? Like, are we interacting with them and we don't even know it? I think that there are some that are much more some other entity than human. Like, I don't know. I know some people like that that you're just like, your eyes tell me a story right now that is not that human. Like, the way you look through me, the way that. yeah, the energy that I feel. So I definitely think there are some. There's even more out there

concepts of, you know, reptilians and things like that. But simply said, I think there probably are some bodies that are very much some other kind of energy. Yeah. Okay. Well, you let me know when you meet one and I'll do the same. Oh, I've met many. I just am not for sure about it. Oh, when you're 100% sure. You think so. Okay. Oh my gosh. Amazing. Okay. Now a more, more, you know, tangible question. Do you have a gratitude practice? And if so, what is it? And in this year, in 2022, what are you grateful for? We've been through two years of everybody complaining. And I feel like 2022 really needs to be a time that we celebrate. What are you grateful for this year? I mean, when I lay my head down at night, I mean, I, I mean, I would call myself spiritual and not necessarily religious, but I think there's just something. So sometimes I don't always know who to address. I'm like, God, source, I don't know, whatever's out there. Whoever's out there. Higher dimensional frequencies. I, I'm, I always start

off with all the things I'm thankful for, always. And I'm not going to say that every night, I put my head down at night and I pray every night, but many times I do. And, and, um, and I, and, um, and I'm, I, and I'm grateful for, I list all the things I'm grateful for. And I think that what I am most grateful for of recent time is, you know, there's a lot of things. But what I've really realized is that I have amazing people in my life, just like the relationships that I have, the friends, my family. And I just keep collecting like amazing humans. Like you're one of them and so many others that I've met along the way in the last years.

to like just really special human beings that are whether they're just like wonderful people or whether they have superpowers of like connecting with energies and the quantum world whatever like or whether they're brilliant doctors or just whatever i just feel like i've like i've got so like the universe has really been blessing me with a lot of information and a lot of resources yeah and um and i'm really grateful for that. If I, if I'm curious about something or someone or some specific area of life, like people just start showing up to fill it in. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they actually say right now that the way astrologically, energetically, the way things are lining up, that manifestations are happening a lot quicker. Oh yeah. Time lines. And I, because I feel the same thing. Like every day,

I'm like, oh my God, there's another interesting scenario here. There's another interesting person. And I don't know if we all were in hiding and now we're out. And I feel like 100% aligned with what you just said that there are some special people showing up with huge hearts that are entering into my world as well. And I wonder sometimes if it's that magnetic effect. When you listen to everything that you talked about and who you are and the journey you're on, I feel like, yeah, of course, amazing people are showing up because you're magnetizing them to you. You have an energy that is attracting them to you.

you. The non, the non special people, the angry people wouldn't even gravitate to you because they'd look at you and be like, I don't know, your vibe is not my vibe. So I think this is where I go, let's all vibe at this higher frequency and we can start to change the world because it starts with changing ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. You're totally right. I mean, I think that, you know, like tracks like. And the thing is, is that as I mean, timelines are really sped up right now. And I think that that's part of it is just like what would have taken 10 years to kind of meet and go through transitions with all these people. It's happening in 10 months now. Yes.

And it's just time is this very interesting parameter of our reality. But it's speeding up and speak to anyone. Just speak to anyone on experience. Like you can't say timelines are not fast right now. Right. So as we're hurling through the universe, we're somehow reaching this sort of point in the universe. universe where time is not the same as it used to be. And so yeah, it's speeding up our growth and acceleration. And I think there's something to be said for the collective consciousness to the

collective frequency. I look at like energy and I look at like the world from an energy standpoint and just, you know, momentum and about momentum. Wonderful Abraham Hicks. When I listen to Abraham Hicks, it's all about momentum and we're going, we're going the right way. There's other stuff going the wrong way, but we're also going the right way and life is all about polarity and duality. And so, you know, just as much as things are spiraling out of control and crazy and dark and bad, there's also the other side of it. Yeah. Oh, a thousand percent.

So thank you so much. This is really delightful. And a couple of things I want to tell you, for starters, as a woman, thank you for breaking glass ceilings. Thank you for showing up as a badass race car driver that showed what women could do. And then thank you for being so public about. what you did with your breast explant. So I know you know this in your mind, but I want you to know in your heart that you've really made a difference for women. So appreciate you so much. Thank you.

Thank you. I felt that. I felt that hit. And, you know, as I joked about afterwards, like, this is what famous for. Yeah, there you go. Sharing good stuff. Sharing the journey and being vulnerable. I love it. I love it. And if people want to find you, your podcast is amazing. So I want to put a plug into there. Anything else that our episode? People are loving it. Yeah, the pretty intense podcast. You can just search my name. It's anywhere you find podcasts. I also make wine, Somnium, Danic Rose, one's from Napa Valley and one's French. And I have a candle company called Voyant that's very like intentionally curated. There are four different ones after my trip to Egypt last year. Yeah. I mean, those are some of the big buckets. Yeah. I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

No, thank you, Danica. This was amazing. Appreciate you. You're beautiful, beautiful person. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining me in today's episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we'd love to know about it. So please leave us a review, share it with your friends, and let me know what your biggest takeaway is.