Live Like a Girl with Dr. Mindy Pelz - Healing Your Gut With Hydrogen – With Dr. Paul Barattiero
Episode Date: June 7, 2021// R E A D Y • S E T • R E S E T This episode is all about water and Wi-Fi. We discuss how we can repair our gut microbiome, and the ways we can thrive with all of the technology around us. Paul ...Barattiero has lectured across the world over the last 22 years. 12 years ago, he set out to educate the world on the vast benefits of molecular hydrogen. His message has focused on the critical role of molecular hydrogen (H2) to reduce oxidative stress and inflammation. His lectures present the causal problem and the solutions through scientific studies. He developed the Echo hydrogen water system as well as other products to modulate immune and cognitive function. Paul has lectured across the world and has been on national television in USA, Germany, and Switzerland including Doug Kaufman's television show Know the Cause. He was featured in "The Truth about Cancer" and has been on radio shows and podcasts worldwide. Paul works diligently to educate individuals how to prevent disease and no longer suffer. Paul's greatest joys come from serving others. He is passionate about the prevention of pathologies. He founded Synergy Science, Inc. in 2011 and developed a full line of products focused on detoxification, immune boost, and gut recovery. In this podcast, we cover: Why hydrogen water will actually repair the terrain of your gut How hydrogen water is way more effective than a probiotic The ways you can protect yourself from Wi-Fi How to thrive in this modern world // R E S O U R C E S M E N T I O N E D Feel the impact of Organifi - use code PELZ for a discount on all products! Fasting Cheat Sheet Hydrogen Water EMF Shield // M O R E O N D R. P A U L B A R A T T I E R O Synergy Science Inc Youtube Synergy Science Facebook Synergy Science Instagram Paul on Linkedin // F O L L O W Instagram | @dr.mindypelz & @theresetterpodcast Facebook | /drmindypelz & /theresetterpodcast Youtube | /drmindypelz Please note the following medical disclaimer: By listening to this podcast you understand that this video is for educational purposes only. It is not intended to substitute for professional medical advice and should not be relied on as health or personal advice. Always seek the guidance of your doctor with any questions you may have regarding your health or medical condition.
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Start listening to your body.
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My name is Dr. Mindy Pels, and I want to thank you for spending part of your day with me.
On this episode of the Resetter podcast, we are going to talk about water and Wi-Fi.
So let me kind of give you a little bit of a behind the scenes of my next guest and why I brought him to you guys.
One of the things, and you'll hear it here in this episode that I have been deeply thinking about,
is why is the human body struggling in this modern world that we're living in?
And for years, I looked at the chemicals in our food.
I've looked at us sitting too much.
I've looked at the lack of sunlight.
I mean, the list is very long.
But there is a whole other level of toxicity that's happening to us at this particular moment.
And it really is causing us to have more chronic disease than needs to be.
And so my next guest, in my opinion, has solved a huge modern day problem for our bodies.
And one is how do we repair our gut microbiome?
And two, how do we thrive with all of the.
technology around us that's emitting these different frequencies. And we call them EMFs or you might
know them as Wi-Fi. So my next guest, Paul Bartario, he has created two really cool products
that are backed by a tremendous amount of science that will help to bring the terrain of your gut
back. So let's just start with that concept. So if you've been on antibiotics, if you know you've been
eating a lot of pesticides. If you've had challenges with anything from constipation to
sebo to leaky gut, this is an interesting twist to water. It's called hydrogen water.
And he's going to talk about why hydrogen water will actually repair the terrain of your gut.
So those micro, those little bacteria can actually thrive. They can start to make you neurotransmitters
that will keep you happy and mentally clear and can actually be an incredible
tool for repairing the gut. So we, in the first half of this podcast, dive into hydrogen water.
And you'll hear my opinions on this when I first heard it. I was a little skeptical. I didn't
necessarily think that hydrogen water was going to save the world. And as you start to understand the
concepts behind hydrogen water, you will see that this is way more effective than a probiotic.
This is way more crucial than just eating leafy green vegetables.
there's a whole other level we can look at the gut from. And then the second thing we talk about
is how do we protect ourselves from Wi-Fi? And I've brought some people on that have talked about
different paints you put on your wall or different like drapes and blankets you can use. But Paul
has a whole other way for us to protect ourselves from the EMFs that are not only in our space,
in our home, in our office, but are coming from cell towers. So if you're one of the
those people who you're struggling with healing, you feel like you're doing everything, you can't get
to that next level of health, this is going to answer a lot for you. If you are looking how to thrive
in this modern world, this is going to answer a lot. We definitely dove into fasting and how to use
his tools around fasting. And please stay through the end because, wow, will you see this man's
heart in the last five questions I ask him? Blew me away. So enjoy. This is for all of you.
that are looking for that next level of health.
I can't wait to share Paul with you.
Selfishly wanted to have this conversation
because one of the things that have been really burning on my heart
is that the human body is really not thriving in this modern world.
Right.
And things like hydrogen water and protecting us from EMFs
have gone from being, well, this is my perception.
And correct me if I'm wrong, Paul,
that they've gone from being these fringe things,
to being really powerful healing tools to combat this modern world.
So let's start off by just addressing like,
why do we even need to think about hydrogen water?
Why do we have to think about EMFs?
Why is this so draining to the human body?
Well, that's a beautiful question.
And I would say, as typical with you,
you're picking up in the very perfect spot.
Why do we need hydrogen water?
And the reason that we do is the body was designed, created to make its own hydrogen gas when you're digesting food.
This is based on having the appropriate bacterial anaerobic microflora in the gut.
And there are these amazing little microflora that are called hydrogen tropes.
They are amazing bacteria that will convert short chain fatty acids, medium chain fatty acids, fiber-rich foods.
into hydrogen gas.
And typically on a normal appropriate diet that we should have,
you should be able to make 10 to 12 liters of hydrogen gas per day on a normal diet.
Well, this is how we lived as human beings for thousands and thousands of years.
Once we had pesticides, overuse of antibiotics, all these kind of things that are competing
and destroying our gut flora really by changing the electrical potential, what we call the polarity
of the gut tissue itself. So this is why hydrogen water is because our guts are not functioning,
I believe that at least 96, 97% of the population, and I'm being kind, have a dysfunctioning gut.
And all that really means, because I think most people don't understand what it means to have a
dysfunctioning gut, it just means that you have the incorrect bacteria.
Yeah.
Because the terrain and the biome is not appropriate.
So that's why we need it is because we are not producing hydrogen the way we should.
And the primary role of hydrogen is to reduce oxidation or to keep oxidation in a normal range
or to have what's called homeostasis.
Reduction in oxidation should be in a balanced state.
When we don't have hydrogen gas, oxidation rises until we get what we call oxytosis.
oxidative stress. And then we have inflammation and then we have disease. That's really to oversimplify.
That's that's the track. So I'm thinking it's like an antioxidant. This is why we take antioxidants to
bring that oxidation down. So hydrogen would act in a, in a, with this, in a similar way.
So most antioxidants are an electron donor, correct? So the problem with electron donors is once you donate that
electron, you now have a pro-oxident left behind that the body also has to get rid of.
With hydrogen, it's a selective antioxidant.
It does not donate an electron.
A, it doesn't have an extra electron to donate.
But the reason why hydrogen is so becoming so strongly sought after by the medical community
is A, there are a thousand studies at this point showing that it is a selective
antioxidant. In other words, what makes it selective? It only reaches and reacts with reactive oxygen
species. It doesn't react with life-sustaining radicals because there are more radicals in the body
that are life-sustaining, producing nitric oxide, all these kind of things, then there are
damaging ones. However, there are things like hydroxyl radicals, superoxide, different things like
this that are reactive oxygen species or oxygen radicals that typically mess up the mitochondrial respiratory
chain or mitochondrial function in general. And so we can't produce energy. We have a lot of different
issues going on. And for example, hydroxyl radicals are the most cytotoxic. Now, that's a big word I know,
but cytotoxic just means it's cell damaging. So imagine hydroxyl radical, which is only a hydrogen
and an oxygen combined.
That's what makes a hydroxyl radical,
but it's the most cell-damaging radical in the human body.
What hydrogen does is upregulate catalase regulation and things like this
so that you don't produce hydroxyl radicals,
and therefore you've offloaded the mitochondria respiratory chain.
So it's called a selective antioxidant because it only reaches and reacts with those
that are harmful to the body.
That sounds like it's maybe more powerful than an antioxidant then.
For sure, because it's natural.
It's natural.
Right.
So what I think that is missing in our awareness around health is this idea that pesticides,
glyphosate, toxins in our environment are hurting our microbiome.
And I agree with you that we've got people with gut issues that don't know they have gut issues.
So what I'm hearing you say is that hydrogen water becomes a tool that we can use
to replenish and reinvigorate these bacteria.
bring the oxidative stress down so that your body can function the way it was designed to function.
Is that an oversimplistic way of looking at it?
Well, hydrogen can't restore gut function.
Hydrogen is a by-process of digestion, proper digestion.
And again, if you don't have the hydrogen tropes, you're not going to convert the fatty acids or fiber into hydrogen.
So we have to restore the terrain and the biome first.
So when I developed our devices and purposely and most importantly put another ingredient into the water itself.
So obviously we do have hydrogen gas dissolved and that does.
You are correct.
It does reduce oxidation or oxidative stress and inflammation and change brain function and all these things.
But I added another element to it, which is,
is changing the electrical potential of water itself.
So typical tap water or other types of water that you would drink have a positive electrical
charge.
So you might look at them under what's called an orp meter and you would see that they have
a positive 600 millivolds of electrical potential in the water.
We change that to a negative 450 millivolds of electrical potential.
And the reason I do that is because there are multiple studies from Russia.
showing that if we change the epithelial tissue or the tissue in the gastrointestinal tract
to at least a negative 300 millivolds of electrical potential,
it selectively stimulates anaerobic microflora.
In other words, what is that really saying in plain English?
If we change the electrical potential of the tissue in the gut,
we've changed the terrain and the biome so that it now supports the proper bacteria,
the anaerobic microflora, to then come,
and live there.
And now we have immune function increased.
Now we have hydrogen production.
Now we have all of our immune system doing what it's supposed to do.
That second brain that our gut is.
Food allergies go away.
All these kind of things happen.
And so that's very critical.
But built into the device I developed,
the water coming out has that property as well as hydrogen.
I love that.
And I think we don't talk about the train enough.
And I think that, so I'm thinking it's a little bit like remodeling your house and making the inside of your house more enjoyable to live in.
That's what hydrogen water is doing is it's creating a terrain where these microbes can really flourish.
And then they can in turn give us a stronger immune system, neurotransmitters.
Is that correct?
Absolutely.
Sotokine storms are stopped by high.
I mean, there's been so many tests on every type of disease you could imagine with hydrogen and showing that.
it does exactly that. So yes, it's critical to life. Mission critical. Would it be a great
post antibiotic treatment where you go on? Oh, 100%. Just damn it. Yeah. So if somebody had been on a round
of antibiotics drinking hydrogen water would replenish that better than a probiotic perhaps.
Oh, absolutely. And we have to make sure we understand just drinking hydrogen water. If there's
no electrical potential change in the water, won't do a thing for them other than
while the hydrogen is modulating pathways, they'll have benefits.
But again, we have to get them water with a negative 300 or more ORP level that's actually
appropriate because sometimes there's water out there that has negative RRP because the company
has put heavy metals in the water.
That's not what you want to drink.
So, you know, you want this to occur naturally.
You typically, if hydrogen is put in the water correctly, then you can have a negative
of ORP, but they don't always exist together.
And so it's important to make sure you have a source that's appropriate.
So and when I'm drinking my reverse osmosis filtered water, I'm not getting that added
hydrogen into it.
No, you, there's no hydrogen and you would have a positive 600 millivolds instead of a negative
450.
Literally, the difference between the two is 1,050 milovolts of potential.
So now you could take your RO and run it through our server, which you see right there, and it will change all of that to have hydrogen and to have the negative ORP.
That's what would be best with that RO water.
Okay.
And so, and if it's so like healing, is it something that we just want to drink all the time?
Or do we actually look at hydrogen water as a therapeutic tool, not an everyday drink it all the
time tool? Well, whenever answering these kind of questions, I will always say, look at the body,
what it would do naturally. So typically, we would eat three times a day. We would have food going
into our gastrointestinal tract. We would convert those foods into hydrogen and methane and a number
of other gases. And we would do that multiple times a day. So I would tell you that I believe it's
absolutely appropriate to have hydrogen gas going into the body multiple times a day,
not just to use as therapy, but actually happening multiple times a day to regulate pathways.
So it's not that we just want to pump the body full of hydrogen.
What we want to have is signal modulation going on.
So when we talk about signal modulation, we're talking about pathways,
antoxone pathways, immune function, all kinds of different pathways that are regulated.
Now, they have found over 200 bio molecules in the body that are regulated by hydrogen.
And when there's no hydrogen, they're not regulated.
So I don't think we should have intervenious connection to hydrogen water either.
What I would call intermittent exposure is appropriate.
But intermittent doesn't mean once a year.
Intermittent can mean multiple times a day, but there's space in between.
That to me is appropriate.
Yeah.
So it's kind of like fasting and sunlight and sleep.
It's part of the,
it should be part of our natural daily habits to,
again, thrive in this modern environment.
Oh, 100% and yes, yes, absolutely.
I can tell you because I tried it when we were at your place.
Yeah.
Something happened.
It was increased mental clarity.
Yes.
Increased energy.
My bowels started going like,
crazy. Can you talk to us? So there was definitely, it was, you know, there was some shift that
happened in just drinking a bottle of it. I was like, okay. So can you talk to me about like what,
what conditions you're using it for? What does the science say about how it can heal the gut
so that we can really help people understand who would really want to lean into this?
Sure. So let's start with what you said first was you felt more clarity mentally. So there are
multiple studies on Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, autism, bipolar, schizophrenia, for example,
that are showing there's a beautiful hormone in the body called Grelin, G-H-R-E-L-I-N.
Yeah, we're familiar with that one.
Yes.
As fasters, we want that one to go down very fast.
Yes.
So anytime you're drinking our water, that is the fastest and highest way to get grelin secretions
to the brain.
we have done brain mapping and you're talking two minutes at the most, two minutes.
Soon as that water hits your stomach with hydrogen gas, it selectively stimulates
grill and secretions to the hippocampus, hypothalamus, and brainstem.
So you definitely have increased cognitive function as well as clarity of mind.
We have a lot of people that do water fasting.
I do water fasting five days typically.
I have Dr. Stockwell not far from our office here who last month did.
17 or 18 days, I forget. And he said, Paul, I was never hungry, actually, when I was drinking
your water during my fast. It's the first time he's done a water fast with our water. And so,
you know, that that's amazing. There's been several other doctors that are huge in water fasting
that use our system as well. But I will tell you that because hydrogen is modulating certain
pathways, it's not as as tough of a deal metabolically for your body to not have minerals,
and other things coming in because the things that mineral regulates, hydrogen regulates.
So it's very interesting that you can have a far more peaceful water fast than you would.
Now, that's ghrelin.
When we talk about the energy increase, you're talking about mitochondrial function.
That's the next fastest thing you'll feel when you're drinking the water because the mitochondria of the body are offloaded,
as soon as the oxidative stress is reduced.
Now, when we talk about disease models, there's every possible.
thing because there's 997 studies so far that we've indexed and 175 human disease models.
So you're talking about everything from colon cancer, diabetes, you know, neurologic issues,
non-alcoholic, fatty liver disease. I mean, we can get it into some crazy stuff.
But it's all because why. Hydrogen is supposed to be in your body.
It is supposed to be part of your function. You're not designed to be.
operating on this planet without hydrogen. It's very difficult for the body. So I would just tell you,
if you break down everything, it's carbon hydrogen chains anyways at the very core of who we are.
When we look at hydrochloric acid, it's HCL, obviously the H is in there, right? We start looking
at all of these things. Hydrogen is critical to just about everything that we have.
So really what I developed was a hydrogen delivery system that also changes the electrical
potential of the water and adds beneficial frequencies that the consumer can choose what they want,
whether it's adrenals or menstrual or sleep support or parasite elimination, all through formulas
that can also be put in the water if people want to. So it's really a delivery vehicle for a number
of things that definitely affect the body. You felt that quickly. And I'll tell you, that's what people
ask all the time. How long does it take? And I'll say, first class. And that's a
amazing. We have a lot of people that were on inhalers. We have people that had food allergies,
gluten and dairy intolerance. And I'm not saying you need to eat gluten and dairy, but you should
be able to process it. That's what people have been eating for, you know, millennia on this planet.
And so if you have food allergies, you have gut issues. That's a telltale sign. And so we can,
we can help with that. But yeah. I love this idea of using it on a fast. I think that is an incredible
idea and I want to get our resetters doing that because one of the biggest questions we get is,
well, I tried to go for a three-day water fast and I got stuck at 36 hours. Right. And people get stuck for a
variety of reasons. They get stuck because they're feeling dizzy, they're tired, their hearts palpitating,
or they're just too darn hungry. Right. So could this be a tool to help people get over that hurdle?
Yes, absolutely. I can just say,
general. I can't guarantee everyone anything, but the reality is it should be a far easier process
to go longer. Will you detox with this water? No. No, there's no Herczheimer. Are you really
talking about a Hurtzheimer effect? Yeah, right. So no, you don't have that. Every once in a while,
people that drink hydrogen water can feel a little bit of a euphoria or a lightness in their mind because
their body's not used to having grelin secretions.
That's the reality.
It's not that you're having any negative effect.
It's just your body hasn't had grelin secretions.
And when you have grelin, it increases everything.
And they're just not used to having that tool or that hormone in the body.
I mean, you understand grelin is an acronym for growth hormone releasing.
Right.
So it anyways, the point is it controls circadian rhythm to every possible thing you could imagine.
And so that's about the work.
of what people will feel is sometimes a little euphoria, but it's pretty rare. The reason why people
ask the question about Hurtzheimer is because of alkaline water. So for so many years,
people were using these machines that made alkaline water, and they were drinking pH that was
way too high, and it was actually throwing your body out of balance, and that's why you were having
a Herczheimer, but everyone called it detox symptoms, but it was not detox. It was a Herczheimer
effect because your body is not supposed to be drinking things that are nine and a half pH or higher
and it can mess up your potassium levels it can do a lot of issues in the body but this water we don't
change the pH on purpose there is no benefit to the human body by drinking or eating things that
are higher pH which is pretty hard to eat anything because there's no vegetable on the planet
there's nothing that grows on the planet that is higher than a seven you know seven pH.
Everything is more in the acid range, which so is your stomach acid, right?
So people just aren't used to that because there's been so many false information about alkaline,
alkaline, alkaline, alkaline.
So years ago, that's why I developed the system is because the only reason that these alkaline
water machines have benefits was because when they're brand new, they do dissolve hydrogen gas.
and they change the ORP of the water.
But I, as a clinician myself, I said,
why are we drinking water that has two benefits and then one big negative to buffer
stomach acid?
Why don't we just make a device that will give the two benefits and delete the
unnecessary thing that's putting a burden on the body?
And that's what I did.
It's brilliant.
And again,
if I hadn't tried it for myself,
I would have thought it was just another.
sort of esoteric concept.
I do think the science is really impressive.
But that euphoric feeling, I definitely felt that.
And you start to see then what's missing in your daily routine because I'm somebody who's,
I have a pretty strong health habit.
Right.
So to see that kind of change was really profound.
And again, if I hadn't experienced it myself, I think I would, you know, I always tend to go
towards skepticism when something can do so many wonderful things. It's like fasting. So I ended up
researching fasting as I'm like, how could one activity all these benefits? So I had to dive into
the science. And same thing with hydrogen water. And it's like, if it does all of that,
there has to be a reason. It has to be a gimmick. It has to be something that's not right.
It is a gimmick. Your body is supposed to have it. And when you don't, you don't have a good life.
That's the bottom line.
But the reality is because people used to ask me earlier 2008, 2009, when I started lecturing on hydrogen, they'd be like, well, if we're supposed to have hydrogen, why don't I have a tank on my side of my body?
Or why don't I have a little bag of hydrogen?
I'm like, you actually do?
And they're like, what?
I'm like, you're actually supposed to convert food into hydrogen in your body.
That's what, what do you think farting is, right?
I mean, come on.
That's why all those college pranks you could light it, right?
So the reality is we do have a hydrogen generator built into our body.
And unfortunately, chemicals can attack or affect our gut system not to function normally.
And it's pretty cool.
I mean, it's kind of romantic when you look at the way the body is supposed to function.
But when we talked earlier about these hydrogen tropes, these amazing bacteria.
So here's the coolest story.
not only do they convert fatty acids and fiber in which obviously comes from vegetables for
those that don't know where fiber comes from but fiber comes from vegetables that's a new concept
we're trying so the reality is when you eat these kind of foods not only do the hydrogen
tropes convert them into hydrogen but they consume 30% of the hydrogen they produce as their
own energy source. What an incredibly beautiful thing that they are creating their own food source
and then existing. Now, the other 70% goes into the body and regulates pathways, cert 1,
telomere's activity. I mean, we have studies on all this stuff. It's crazy. I even have a study,
and I shared it in my lecture at the event where we met, but they did a study on zebrafish and
innate immunity. So imagine that how.
Hydrogen can affect innate immunity in zebra fish.
I mean, could you like think of any other non-affected group other than a zebra fish?
I mean, come on.
We're not, we don't have a placebo.
We don't even worry about a placebo effect with zebra fish.
And so I'm just telling you it's worth looking into it's incredible.
You know, we have millions of people that are benefited by our products and they love it.
Yeah.
And what I love is that you've created a solution for the, this.
really primitive body we're living in that's living in this horribly toxic modern world.
And all of these things from immune compromised people to obesity, to diabetes, to cancer,
in my opinion, is because this organic primitive body is not thriving in this crazy toxic world.
So you're just helping us undo the stress that we're getting every single.
Is that correct?
100%.
That's for those that will make a choice for themselves.
And really why I started Synergy Science was to assist and support people to accomplish their
divine potential.
That's the reality.
Because if you're in bed, how are you going to serve someone else?
Right.
If you don't know how to get up out of bed because your aches and pains and whatever's, you're
rarely going to serve people unless you have to or you.
you mentally have so much guilt by not doing it, that you force yourself out.
But what I have found, Mindy, is when you take that person who was bedbound or who spent
a long period of time wishing they could get up and go serve someone, once you give them the
ability to get up, guess what?
They do go serve people because they remember what it's like to be stuck.
And they don't want to be stuck.
And they got a new lease on life.
and it's really a beautiful thing to watch.
Yeah.
Oh, I love that.
I love that.
Okay, let's talk about another intense topic that you have solved for us.
So, again, it's just brilliant what you're doing over there.
Thank you.
And that's EMFs.
Yes.
So with EMFs, I feel like we just don't understand enough.
Right, right.
So help our viewers and our listeners understand, like, what is EMFs doing to the body?
And how can we combat that?
Well, that's a very, very wide subject.
But I'll skim.
How about that?
I'll skim across.
Yeah, go for it.
Yeah.
Because they affect us through calcium channels.
They affect us through cell membranes, which go study cell membranes.
You'll understand this is what's one of the most critical things in the body is the actual surface area of the cell and the human body.
And it's incredibly how it's incredible how much surface area there is.
But when we look at cell membrane and we look at calcium channels,
in the body. It's huge. When we look at the fact that our organs are are designed to communicate with
one another, okay, kind of like the autonomous driving, right? Hopefully one day the cars will talk to each other
and they won't hit each other. But yeah, that's about the only time I might trust it because I don't
trust the autonomous driving fully yet, right? But I got to use my hands. But anyways, the point is
our organs are supposed to communicate with each other. So why?
are electromagnetic fields bad? Well, first of all, not all of them are bad. We need to understand that.
Just because you have your nice little meter that says there's EMFs doesn't mean they're harmful to you
because the earth produces electromagnetic fields. Obviously, our compasses would have worked. They produce
magnetic fields, but the ones that are nature provided aren't harming you. It's the man-made stuff
that's mostly harming you. Now, can we have Wi-Fi? I promise you I have Wi-Fi in my house,
and I have Wi-Fi in my building. And, I mean, all my vehicles have Wi-Fi. I don't use Wi-Fi in my car,
but they do have it, right? I mean, there's Wi-Fi everywhere. And then if we really get beyond
Wi-Fi, because that's so Pass-A, right? Wi-Fi. What is that? Now we have, what? Signals coming
from the sky. And so we have, we have signals and information being sent in from every possible
place. So it is impossible to shelter yourself, unless you go a mile down in the earth or something,
but to shelter yourself from these fields. And so if that's the case, which I do believe it is,
and you have to come to the decision on your own, what you understand. But paint doesn't
work. Tinfoil doesn't work. I mean, these sexy tinfoil hats that people want to wear it, they don't
work because you have a roof, you have ceilings, you have windows, you have doors. These,
these kind of structures don't stop these kind of fields. If you can use your cell phone in your house,
then you know they're not stopping it. So we had, we developed a technology we call Waveguard
and the key devices, QI or Chi or key, and they do not block the fields.
This is what we need to understand.
It is almost impossible to block.
We can do it, but it's very difficult to block the fields.
We don't really need to block these fields.
We need to change them so that they'll be biologically safe.
This is what we do.
We don't block the fields.
We still want you to have your Netflix and, you know, do whatever you do with that.
and we want to have communication.
Some people are really smart houses and not what they call smart houses.
But they have all kinds of wireless devices of every possible kind that are communicating.
Well, these things are great, right?
I mean, they're beneficial to people.
And what we don't want is the harm.
So where does the harm come from?
It's radiation.
This is what people don't understand.
They just hear EMF, EMF, EMF, EMF, EMF.
and it's become like, you know, something you hear all the time so they don't worry about as much.
But where's the problem?
Well, the problem is radiation.
So just like you don't want to use a microwave because it's radiation, why are we not concerned about electromagnetic fields and the component that is radiation?
So what we do in our devices is two main things.
We depolarize radiation so that it's not harming your calcium channels, your cell membranes,
in your body. And second, we reduce the signal strength by anywhere from 70 to 80 percent,
depending on which device. But what does that really mean? So we're going to talk about that.
The fact that you have Wi-Fi in a building or cellular signals coming in from a tower,
there is voltage in the air. So when you're walking around your house, a business, a mall,
it doesn't matter outside in the field, you are walking through electrical voltage. And we have
studied this. There's typically three volts per meter in the air. Well, that's way more than we need to
carry on a phone conversation or to watch a movie on Netflix. Okay. The reality is we take that
number down from three volts per meter to under one volt per meter, which still allows you to have
great internet and wireless connections, but not be harmed by the excess signal strength that's
there. So how would I know, again, I think this is such an interesting concept because I don't think
people are as aware of what Wi-Fi is doing to them. So they don't even know. They could be anxious.
Right. Headaches, tinnitus, yeah.
Sitting in their own home and never making the correlation that it has to do with their Wi-Fi.
Would there be, could you test it and like turn your Wi-Fi off and just see,
how do I feel for a day with no Wi-Fi going on in my home?
Yeah, you can do that.
You can definitely turn off Wi-Fi, but you're not turning off the cellular signals that are coming in your house.
out from around you.
It's almost impossible to be without them.
Yeah.
This is why we create the device that we do is because you can change those.
So what our device does is it creates a field.
And you buy the device, yeah, you buy the device based on the size of field you want.
So if you want two million square feet, then we have key max.
If you want more like 7,500 square feet, then you have the key home.
If you want 225 square feet, then you have the key shield.
So that's what you choose is what size area.
But what's really happening is there is a field that we create that anytime EMF fields from the outside come through our field, they are changed to be biologically safe.
So while you are in our field, you're good.
And it doesn't matter if you have wireless.
devices or plugged in or whatever, you're going to be fine. Now, what are you going to feel?
Increase sleep right away. You're going to have better sleep. A lot of people say they start dreaming
again. They're not going to feel anxious. They don't feel this rigidity when they're in the space.
Also, mental clarity. I can't tell you how many medical professionals have contacted us and said,
I couldn't even hardly think once they put 5G in my area or whatever. And now with your devices,
oh my gosh, it's a whole different ballgame.
And these are people that hold multiple patents.
And the one guy said to me, I couldn't even write that stuff.
I'm reading the papers I wrote.
And I'm like, I don't have the capacity to do that right now.
And then once they got our device, he called me up and he's like, oh, my gosh, I'm writing
again.
I used to have to go to Bali to get away from all this.
So this is what we do.
And how can you test it?
Well, it is difficult.
You can't use an EMF meter to test it because they're not sensitive enough to see
what's going on. We have spent about a million and a half dollars testing. We've done 17 studies
proving we've done some what's called technical studies to show what we do to 600, 700, 800,
1900, 1800, 1800, 1900, and by the way, we've tested all the way up to 42,000 megahertz,
only company in the world that's tested up that. And what do we show? We reduce the signal strength
in 42,000 megahertz by 80%. So this is beautiful.
but what what else do we do that people don't know?
So right now we're in the middle of two studies.
One study is 60 individuals and the other study is 80 individuals.
One is Cleveland Clinic, which you may have heard about.
It's kind of a nice organization.
The reality is eight years ago they did a study showing that Wi-Fi caused fertility issues.
Most of us don't even know that they did this study,
even though it's published.
But what it showed is that sperm didn't swim correctly.
And so what are they doing right now?
They are redoing this study using our technology to show if it undoes that.
And it's about three quarters of the way through right now.
So we're eagerly awaiting the outcome.
Yeah. Let us know.
I know.
And then we have another study going off at Fronhofer Institute in Europe,
where we have a ton of people with a key shield for 30 days.
So every study we've done and we've shown tremendous benefits is like a five-minute
exposure or a couple-hour exposure to cell cultures or what have you.
And it's really important to understand that in a five-minute exposure,
there were huge benefits to the body.
But imagine now we're doing a 30-day, they have it with them constantly to show an aggregate
to the body of what it does, mitochondrial function, brain function, everything else.
So we're very excited for that to be finished as well.
And that's also three quarters of the way through.
So these are the kind of studies we've done.
Yeah, the best we, the best we've published so far, the next two will be the best.
But the best, best so far is the fact that we did a cell culture study
and what it showed is that with a two-hour exposure to a cell phone, the body lost 90% of its ability
to heal a wound.
Wow.
Now, when you took the key shield and you put that in the environment and there was three cell cultures,
one was the body by itself with no EMFs and the body healed 100% in 24 hours.
The next thing we did is we put a cell phone functioning for two hours and then incubation,
for 22 hours with the cell phone off.
And there was only 10% healing of that same exact cell culture and closing the wound.
So it was really a study on fibroblast.
So any of you that understand what fibroblast are, it was on tissue connectivity.
And fibroblast, basically, for those that are not understanding what fibroblasts are,
fiberblasts drop collagen down into a wound bed.
And they kind of haphazardly go across a wound to fill the hole or to,
cause the tissue to recombine. And then as a last step, the body put skin down and it organizes it
properly. But the first step is fibroblast, come down and drop collagen. So what we saw was there was
only a 10% activity rate of fibroblast versus 100% with the body by itself. But with that same
exact study of two-hour exposure to cell phone and 22-hour incubation with the key shield in
the environment. So in other words, it was all within the field.
90% heal. So the body only lost 10% of its ability. So it's, these are the kind of studies that we do to
show that the body is affected. Even though people maybe not notice that their body takes longer
to heal, we showed that it does take longer to heal. And with our technology, the body is able,
is able to function nearly the same. Yeah. Yeah. And I would say that's probably what I find the
hardest about educating people about Wi-Fi is it's invisible. So it's like we can't wrap our head
around it because we can't see it. And it's the same thing with water. It's like we're such a culture.
If we don't see it, it must not be bothering us. But if it's in our face, then all of a sudden
we must do something about it. That's right. But I'll tell you, I've been in the healing world for
25 years. And when I was first in practice, people would come in with one symptom. And that symptom
would heal very quickly. This is 25 years ago. Right. Just about 10 years in, people started
coming in. It was very rare to see somebody come in with one symptom. They were coming in with like
five symptoms. And now it's like autoimmune. It's everything. It's exhaustion, autoimmune.
So that's what got me really thinking. It's not the human body that needs to get patches put on it.
It's the environment that the human body is living in. Yeah. Would you, am I, do you look at?
I agree. I, I, um,
Well, here's the deal.
It's gut.
I believe all of this is gut.
Yeah.
If your gut is functioning properly, then you're going to have an ability to cope.
And yes, if you have toxicity, okay, we're going to start to see issues in the body having to be with toxicity.
To your point, the problem is now the whole body is encumbered.
And you don't know where to start because you're like, what's worse?
What's my prioritization of giving care or fixing what first?
I don't know.
It's all critical.
And you're seeing them that they're just in trouble.
And so I have found the two products, you know, these products that I've developed get to the core.
Because I don't like band-dating.
I don't like symptomology.
I don't like symptom chasing.
I like to fix the core issues in the body and then see what's left.
And that's how I like to do medicine.
And so the reality is I created these products that are foundational in what they do from an immune function, from a brain function, from all of this.
And when it comes to this, this is more like, okay, we're going to also give you a protected environment that can move around with you on the planet to give you a protected environment so that again, your body has a chance to actually heal and not be encumbered.
we just had a breakthrough Mindy last week. So one of the studies that came back at the university
showed that not only are we creating this field that I'm talking about, but within that
field, now this gets deep. So put your nerd hats on. Within that field, if there's a human
being present, there's another low frequency that appears in the 100 to 300 range.
which is where your organs communicate with each other.
And they are seeing that if our device by itself is there, it creates its field, but that
field doesn't occur.
It's only when a human is in the field with the key device that that other field occurs
and protects the body to be able to communicate with its own organs.
And the body then is told, hey, it's okay.
Don't freak out.
Interesting.
function like you're supposed to.
And we ourselves didn't know that this device that that Hagen created does all that.
We're learning ourselves.
We know, we know that there's sacred geometry.
We know what we did to make this, but we don't even understand the full brunt of what
it's doing, but we are spending money, thanks to everyone, the millions of people purchasing,
to be able to understand so we can tell the story and how.
have people understand what it's doing to benefit them because they feel it immediately.
Yeah. So are you saying if I'm sitting in my house with all the Wi-Fi coming in and the
routers talking that it's shutting down communication between my organs? Is that too simple?
No, it's increasing communication between your organ. Your organs are supposed to talk to each
other so they know what's going on with each other. Wi-Fi communicates on those same frequencies.
Okay. 5G communicates on those same frequencies.
So it's confusing our organs to communicate.
We are stabilizing that and going, no, no, no, here, communicate, talk to each other.
It's okay.
Everything's okay.
That's what I apologize.
If I was confusing, which now I realize, obviously, I was.
No, it's a big content.
Yes, thank you for bringing that and elucidating that so that we can understand because
literally your body is supposed to be communicating with the self.
Right.
You know what I was thinking is it.
It's probably like when you're trying to communicate clearly with your teenager, and then they leave and go communicate with a friend and they get the wrong communication and then they get the wrong behavior.
Yeah, and you're like, what?
You're like, wait, why are you thinking about it that way?
I just told you to think about it this way.
Right.
That's what Wi-Fi is doing to our organs.
Yeah, Wi-Fi is just, it's just confusing because, and what we've learned, because here's the deal.
when we studied 3G, 4G, and 5G, all of it is the same voltage per meter in the air.
So the electrical content is the same.
So we had to ask ourselves, why is 5G so much worse?
Why is 16,000 so much worse than 1,800?
Well, okay, we know it's 11 or 12 times higher frequency.
But okay, what's wrong with that, right?
Is that by itself bad?
Well, what we learned is yes, because it's confusing our bodies.
So that if the body can't communicate, if the kidney can't say, hey, I'm in trouble over here, it's, it's in trouble and no one's paying attention.
Oh, I'm a gallbladder over here.
Hey, guys, I'm in trouble.
Can you please stop sending down some of this food content?
Tell them you don't want any more chicken or whatever, you know.
Well, if that communication is not getting through, then what are you going to do?
keep doing whatever you're doing. There's no, there's no feedback system. And so what,
what we're restoring is the feedback system so the body can actually communicate its needs.
I love that. I love that. Again, you're answering so many things for me because I went from this
mentality of why does everybody have so many symptoms to last year going to the mentality of why is
the whole world immune compromised. And this is, you know, how I approached my menopause experience and why I
wrote the menopause reset is I was like, why does so many women have menopause symptoms?
Yeah.
And we have to stop trying to put out the fires of the symptoms and understand what the human body,
how it's reacting to this environment.
So these two products blow me away.
So I'm really excited to offer that and to have the exposure for my community.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Let me finish with this.
I have rapid fire questions for you.
So the first one, yeah, I know you can handle it.
You actually probably have been drinking your hydrogen.
Water this morning.
Yep.
Okay, books that people can read.
If they're listening to this and they're like, this is fascinating, are there certain
books either on hydrogen water or EMFs that you would say, hey, this is a must,
everybody should go.
I'm sure there are.
I'll get a list together for that.
I haven't read books on EMS, to be honest with you.
I've read a ton of studies because there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of studies.
and we can learn from studies.
As far as hydrogen, I've been asked to write a book so many times.
I have not written a book.
I'd love to write a book.
I just have never written a book.
I'm just lazy, I guess.
But I have read that, you know, hundreds and hundreds.
Same thing.
Studies.
I'm the world's, one of the two worlds experts in hydrogen.
And it's just me because over the last 15 years,
I've studied my little heart out,
or my big heart out.
I don't know what I'm going to say.
But that, and then when it comes to EMS, really Hagen, who developed or
invented the key devices, he was 14, by the way, when he created these devices,
he was electrosensitive and he wanted to do something to help.
And he just asked God, I need to know how to protect myself.
And he was taught how to make these devices.
And that's how they came about.
And it's incredible.
So I don't know of any books, but I know Lloyd Burrell.
I know there are some people that love our stuff and endorse it and what have you, but I'm not
aware of a book that's actually correct. There's what happens so much in medicine, and you know
this, Mindy, that there becomes a popular belief and then you have multiple books come out with
their own versions of it, but it's still not all truth, right? Because, just because it's regurgitated
multiple times in different ways. So I have a very unique.
perspective on hydrogen. And I think we have, I know for a fact, we have a very unique perspective on
EMS and how to protect ourselves because most of the world is over there going block it, paint,
tinfoil, use a metal triangle as pyramids. When really we, that's never going to work. We need to
protect the environment we're in and we need to depolarize the radiation. We need to lower the signal
strength. That's what we need to do because you still want to leave.
your house, I hope, and go, you know, go outside of it. And if all you're doing is protecting your
house, you can never leave. What kind of life is that? Right. Agreed. Outside of drinking hydrogen
water and doing the EMF protection, what three changes do you think everybody could make to protect
them, their guts and to protect themselves from Wi-Fi? This is going to sound strange.
Get very good at forgiveness.
I love that.
get very good at it. And I'm talking to the point where you forgive before the question is asked
and you learn to not hold claim on anyone else for anything they do say think or feel.
That's one critical thing. The second thing is to start listening to your body.
Your body innately knows what it needs and don't drag it through life like a piece of luggage.
Listen to your body. Get in the habit of hearing what your body wants and then actually do it because your body knows what it needs and connect, unify yourself with your body so that you can listen to the innate intelligence of your body and what it needs for itself to function for you in the way that you want.
And of course, I'm married 27 years.
So I would say any relationships that you have, honor each other, love each other.
Don't look for what's wrong.
Look at what's right.
And you'll see beauty.
That's amazing.
That was so well said.
That deserves a mic drop.
That was incredible.
Okay.
I have two more questions for you.
I've been thinking also a lot lately about young families, you know, young parents that are
bringing up children in the.
this toxic world. Is there, again, I think your products are essential, especially when we're
putting cell phones in kids' hands. What else can we do? How do we help the younger, this generation
that's being brought up? How can we make sure that their health doesn't suffer greater than
ours is? I would make sure you do everything you can to keep their gut intact. I believe there's
a spiritual connection in addition to just the physical part of the gut.
I believe that immune function is part of it, but I believe there's a part of intelligence that the gut has that people discount or don't even understand.
So the way to keep your gut is never, ever, ever to use antibiotics on an overuse perspective.
And people say, what does that mean?
Well, first of all, antibiotics are great for life-threatening bacterial infections.
If you have a lung infection, then use an antibiotic.
That's fine.
But they don't affect viruses.
They have zero effect.
But what they do destroy is your gut function.
And it can take up to two years to restore your gut bacteria back.
Now, we can do it faster with the water.
But I would encourage you to get youth on their gut back.
Because this is where they're going to have.
the ability to function through stress, through critical decisions, and not have such food cravings
that start to build oxidative stress into the body young and acne issues and food allergies
and all these kind of things. Most kids are craving sugar because they can't produce enough
ATP. And so they're wanting sugar, not because they're bad kids. And not even that it tastes
good. It's that their body is wanting it because they need energy. And they've got so much being
thrown at them mentally right now.
emotionally. And the other thing I would say is teach them that they are loved and that they have a
group they belong to. Tell them, tell them they belong to you and you love them. And there's nothing
they can do, say, think or feel that will cause you to turn your back on them. Just they need
love and they need a group, they need a group they belong to. That's what they need.
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So well said. Thank you for that. I spent a lot of hours thinking about
the younger generation and how different it is than when you and I grew up.
Yeah. We went outside. We went outside. We didn't have cell phones. You know, we barely had TV.
And I just think they're getting disconnected. And I,
worry about what that holds for humanity.
So that was well said.
Okay, my last question for you is if you had one message for the world, what would it be?
You've already given us so much.
Pay attention to truth.
Not all information is truth.
Look at the source.
Look at the agenda of the individual sharing the information and what
they stand to gain from that information and pay attention to how you feel inside.
Everyone knows what it feels like to love.
Everyone knows what it feels like to serve another person just out of need, not out of you
getting anything out of it.
And you know that feeling inside your body that is like a nice warmth and a beautiful
feeling.
Sometimes you get goosebumps.
Seek people and information.
that fosters that feeling in you when you hear it.
This is a time in all of our lives where it's important that we deal in truth and not fear.
I love this.
Well, as always, I could probably talk to you all day long.
And you have solved two major problems that I'm seeing happening to the human body,
which is why I wanted to bring you on.
How do people find you?
I know you have a 10% discount for our resetter community.
Yes.
But I want to get these tools into as many people's hands.
So how do they find you and your science and your products?
Thank you.
Yeah.
Go to Synergy Science, S-Y-N-E-R-G-Y Synergy, and then Science.com forward slash Dr. Mindy Pels.
And you can see everything on our site from that link.
and you also will get a discount as many times as you want to come back and anything that you get.
Thanks to Dr. Mindy.
She's amazing.
And so that's how you find us.
But we also have a YouTube channel.
If you go to YouTube and type in Synergy Science Inc.
There are so many videos.
Some are hilarious.
Get ready to laugh your heads off.
Explaining hydrogen in a very funny way.
And then there's a ton of installation videos and more short videos on what's the difference.
between plain water and hydrogen water.
How does immune function work?
We have Dr. Herzog, Dr. Jessica Herzog, who is medical director.
She goes into inflammation.
She goes into immune function.
She goes into a lot of stuff.
She used to treat pediatrics, and now she's doing adults because she realizes they need
more help than the pediatrics do.
But the reality, she's amazing woman, and she has videos.
So we have a lot of content.
We're also on Facebook, Synergy Science, Inc.
We're also on Instagram.
So I think that's where we are.
But yeah.
Well, leave all your links in the show notes.
Yep, yeah.
Find you.
Because again, we want to get this out to the world.
And I want to, like I mentioned earlier,
I want to bring you to my academy members.
So people can understand this.
What I love about what you've done is not only create these incredible tools,
but you have all this science to back it up.
Sure.
And we love that.
I mean, that just helps us understand this more.
So from the bottom of my heart, Paul, just so grateful for you and how you show up and what you're doing for humanity.
So keep doing it because the world's a better place with you and your team and your products in it.
So thank you.
Thank you so much.
Hey, resetters.
I just want to start off by saying thank you so much for all your wonderful reviews.
And those of you that have left me comments on iTunes.
I just greatly appreciate your thoughtfulness and how much you guys are enjoying these episodes.
And it seems like you're enjoying them as much as I am enjoying doing them.
One of the things that I've learned in just interacting with so many people is that we've really
lost the art of deep conversations.
And for me, the Resetter podcast stands for having meaningful conversations with people
who are thinking about health, about life, about mindset in a way that we may not be getting
on social media or in mainstream media.
And so I just want to say, give you guys a shout out and just say thank you for participating
in this process with me.
Because as much as I absolutely love delivering the information to you, I love even more
knowing that it's impacting your life.
So please let us know if there's anything we can do to make this podcast,
more customized to you to make it better. We are now officially in season two, and we are working
to bring you the best conversations that health influencers have, that mindset changers can give,
and to really deliver you something that you're not able to get anywhere else. So from the
bottom of my heart, as I always say my YouTube, from the bottom of my heart, I am deeply
appreciative of you. I am deeply grateful to be on this journey with you, and let's get healthy together.
Thank you.
