Live Like a Girl with Dr. Mindy Pelz - Is Reprogramming Your Mind a Path to Better Health? with Bruce Lipton

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Are you in control of your genes, or are they controlling you? In this important and timely re-release, Bruce Lipton explores groundbreaking insights on how consciousness shapes our health and destiny. Learn how to harness the power of love and positivity to transform your health and well-being. To view full show notes, more information on our guests, resources mentioned in the episode, discount codes, transcripts, and more, visit https://drmindypelz.com/ep293 Dr Bruce Lipton is an internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit. He is a stem cell biologist, the bestselling author of The Biology of Belief, and recipient of the 2009 Goi Peace Award. Additionally, Dr Lipton has been a guest speaker on hundreds of television and radio shows, as well as a keynote presenter at national and international conferences. Check out our fasting membership at resetacademy.drmindypelz.com. Please note our medical disclaimer.

On this episode of the Resetter podcast, you are in for a mind-blowing treat. So in this episode, I've brought you Dr. Bruce Lipton. He is considered the father of epigenetics. So if you have, you're not familiar with him. Let me give you a little bit of a background about who I interviewed here and why his words will change your life forever. So he is a internationally recognized leader in bridging. Science and Spirit, stem cell biologist, bestselling author of the Biology of Belief and the recipient

of the 2009 Guo Peace Award. He has been a guest speaker on hundreds of TV and radio shows. He's a keynote presenter for national and international conferences. And perhaps the thing that he is the most popular for is his book, The Biology Belief, where he really brought to us this understanding of epigenetics. Now, the way that epigenetics has been really profiled in the most recent years is that our lifestyle will affect our genetic expression. Yet what you're going to hear in this episode is that Bruce will talk about how it is our thoughts that determine our genetic expression.

And he's going to do it in a way that is going to appeal to those of you that have a scientific brain and those of you that want to understand more about the brain. application of how we can change our thoughts, how can we change our programming to change our health, we dive into all of that. So I want to kind of give you an idea of how this conversation went. So the beginning part, we talked about the current situation. As many of you know, I have been searching for answers that will help us come out of this moment, healthier, happier human beings. And he, in the beginning, you're going to hear something that really changed the way that I looked at positive thinking, the way that I look at the way I move around the world.

And that is this idea that our conscious mind is taking information in. But it's filtering it through our subconscious mind. And our subconscious mind is really predetermined in the first seven years of our life. And it's predetermined around the environment we grew up in. So if the environment we grew up in was one that was built around fear and worry. The rest of our life, we will continue to put ourselves in situations of fear and worry about how, in this episode, about how we can start to change the programming of this subconscious mind. Now, this is pivotal because as a collective human race right now, if we want to come out of this moment, a brighter, healthier, more unified human race, then the tips that he gives on how to really tap into that

subconscious programming and how to start to change our languaging, how to change our thought patterns so that we can be healthier, really are pivotal, not only for your own personal journey and your own personal happiness, but the world needs you right now to rise up to a place where we can have better thoughts about ourselves. We can have better thoughts about our health. We can have better thoughts about the human race. And Dr. Lipton, he will give you the answers that many of you have been searching for. So stay all the way through. The end, it gets incredible. And I'm so excited to bring this episode to you. Welcome to the Resetter podcast. This podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself again.

If you have a passion for learning, if you're looking to be in control of your health and take your power back, this is the podcast for you. So here's one of the main reasons I wanted to bring you on. Over the last year, it would be easy to watch the news. It would be easy to listen to our friends

and to think that the world is falling apart. But one of the questions that I've had for myself is, is it really falling apart? Are we actually rising to a whole other level of human existence? That's a good answer to offer the audience. Great. Awesome. That's the answer. Is that the answer? So I keep thinking, are we actually breaking down or are we having a breakthrough? Both. Same time. Same time. Okay. I'll give a story to cover that because that's one of of the first things to get people calm down is to recognize you're going through something

that's very critical, important. And in matter of fact, if you didn't go through this, life is going to be worse because we're facing an extinction process that humans have created. And so it's humans that either humans change or extinction looms. You've got two choices. Okay. So explain that a little bit because I've also heard you to talk about we are in the sixth possible human extinction. And I think this is... No, no, six mass extinction. They occurred before you, five of them occurred before humans were here.

Great. The last mass extinction is when the dinosaurs were here, and then they disappeared. Boom. Okay. Okay. This is the six recorded version through history of this, of this extinction process. But the most important point is that previous ones were all natural events that occurred. This one is solely due to human behavior upsetting a web of life. And it basically says,

well, the way you're living is causing this problem, which leads you to, well, if you don't want to be in this problem, then you have to live in a different way starting now. That's what the starting now. Starting now. Great. Starting about 10 years ago, but nobody paid attention. Right. Okay. Right. So, so I do think, because I I've thought about all these things over the last year. And I do think that there are, there's a growing movement of people that are wanting to take better control of their health. They're wanting to step out of fear. They've, they're not watching the news.

They've deleted all the programming that they're getting from outside sources. How do we help those people? What is it that we can do in this moment? Okay. This, there are two most important. important facts that if people own these facts, the world will change. Okay? Right.

Okay. Fact number one is that we are not controlled by genes. Genes, we control the genes. The old story, that genes control our physical, our emotional, our behavioral traits. And then you inherit these genes, and then you're saddled with, yeah, well, it's running in my family. And I'm going to, I have the breast cancer gene. and oh my God, you know, the breast cancer gene causes cancer.

Now I'm worried like crazy because I know I have a gene and I know that people get no breast cancer and everybody's like, ah, well, that's stressed a little bit right there. Yes. And then I like to offer a little simple fact. There is not one gene.

Now one gene that causes cancer. The genes are correlated, correlated with cancer. But the gene itself does not activate itself it doesn't turn itself on. That's a whole false belief that genes turn on and off like a light switch. Gene's on, jeans off. I go, no, no. A gene is a blueprint to make body parts.

It's a plan to make cells and muscles and bone and all these things and put it in their structure called a human. Genes are blueprints. That's a fact. Those are wise a relevant. I said, so you go into this architect's office, you know, and she's working on a blueprint. You lean over her shoulder and you go,

hey, is your blueprint on her off? She looks at you and like, it's a blueprint. It's not on and off, it's a blueprint. Precisely, you need an architect. And it turns out consciousness is the architect. And the reason is this, this is the new science called epigenetics. I go, everyone's familiar with the old story,

genetics, genes control this, and they turn on and off and blah, blah, blah. I said, now you're a victim. Why? As far as you know, you didn't pick them. You don't like the traits, can't change them. Then we say, well, of course they turn on and off by themselves. And all of a sudden, you have to realize, then I'm a victim of my heredity. Whatever been passed out to me is going to project into my life. And then what we do is now we get all the drugs in the chemistry to work, protect myself against these genes. And I go, wait a minute, there's no gene that causes cancer. cancer is due to a disharmony in the system. The gene is called in when there's a disharmony.

And I go, why is this relevant? Well, for example, let's just talk about the breast cancer gene I mentioned. What's the point? Women that have this gene never get the cancer. You have to stop and say, well, what does that mean? Well, I'll tell you what it means. Possession of the gene doesn't cause cancer. no sense of why is irrelevant?

Because you keep focusing on the cells that are supposedly the problem, and the cells are a mirror or reflection of the consciousness of that individual, because the brain translates our visions into complementary chemistry. It's sort of like paint by numbers in reverse. The pain are the hormones, the growth factors, all these things that create this body. Yeah, but I say, first you start with a picture, the brain translates it into chemistry that complements,

and then that chemistry goes in the body to do what? Manifest a physical expression of what you just had. So are you saying then if I know I have the breast cancer gene, I create a picture in my mind of me having breast cancer. Now that gets played out in my cells and can actually create the cancer itself. And here's a, let me just add one little fact to that. Same story. Only about 10% of cancer has a hereditary linkage.

About 90% of cancer patients don't really have that in their world. And that they end up with it. And the idea was, how can I end up with this cancer? I said, it's the manifestation of the vision, the fears that you have been programmed with that occupy most of your consciousness. And those fears generate chemistry. release into the body. And this is what my research 50 years ago on stem cells, which are embryonic cells, I created genetically identical stem cells in three culture dishes. All dishes were genetically

identical. But I changed what is called the culture medium, chemistry. I make it in a lab, culture medium. And I make three different versions, chemistry. And in one dish, the cells form muscle, another dish that cells form bone, and the third dish, the cells form fat cells. And then you have to stop and go, wait a minute. Why did it become muscle here and fat over here? What was, what controls that? And I go, they all have the same genes. It was the environment that was changing that. Okay. So, but there's, I'll finish. There's a connection. Yeah, you go for it. Like that. I go like, okay, in a plastic dish, I put culture medium. Culture medium is a laboratory version of blood. Okay. So the chemistry of culture,

Ultra media is supposed to match the chemistry of the blood. Okay? So I make slightly different variations of that blood, and the cells have different expression. And I go, the cells were genetically the same, so I can't say the genes made a decision. They made a decision in response to what was going on in their world. Okay?

So now I say, so why is this? Now let's just take it back. I go, those are cells in a plastic dish. You are a skin-covered petri dish because underneath your skin is 50 trillion cells in a skin covered dish with the original culture medium. Blood. I say, does it make a difference of the cells in the skin dish or the plastic dish?

I said, no, it's still controlled by the environment. And the plastic dish, culture medium, synthetic blood. In your skin covered dish, the actual real blood is the culture medium. And I said, the chemistry of that culture medium is what made muscle cell versus bone versus fat. I say the chemistry then. I said, oh, so the chemistry of the blood, culture medium, controls the fate of the cells. I go, yeah, it's above the genes. And that's why it's called epigenetics. Epi means above. So what's skin called epidermis? I go, what does that mean? Well, just underneath the layer of the skin, there's a layer called dermis. And so when giving the

anatomy name, they say layer above dermis. Oh, it's simple to say epi. That means above. epidermis. So when I say epigenetics, what I'm saying, I say this factor is under genetic control, that's conventionably, that's interpreted as what? Genes control this factor. But if I say this factor is under epigenetic control, it's a revolution. I say, why? Epi means above. So what I'm saying is control epi above the genes genetics. And what's above the gene? Consciousness. consciousness is controlling the genes by adjusting the chemistry of the blood. So if you have a picture of love, the chemistry that comes out of a brain of love is the most

wonderful chemistry. It's got dopamine for pleasure. It's got oxytocin to bond you to your love source. It's got vasopressin. It makes you more attractive so your partner stays with you. And it has growth hormone. So blood from lovers. have chemistry that is promoting life growth hormone.

That's why people, when they fall in love, they glow, they're healthy. I go, why? Because chemistry, the culture medium, has growth hormone, which encourages growth. And I say, but if that person has a picture of fear, then all of a sudden I say, that love chemistry, that the brain doesn't release love chemistry, and fear releases stress hormones. I go, so what's that? I said, oh, stress hormone chemistry in your blood doesn't promote growth.

in fact, it shuts down growth because protection is to wall yourself off and to conserve energy to run away from the fear. And I say, so when I put stress hormones in, my cells genetically have a different behavior than if I put love hormones in. So as I change my thoughts, I change the chemistry of the blood, but the chemistry is the blood is the epigenetic control of my genes. Amazing. So all of a sudden it says, what's your picture? What are you thinking about? Yeah.

Right. So that's what I'm thinking is I'm thinking, well, then the goal is to never be in fear. The goal is if you want to be healthy, is to stay in love. That's, there you go. That's the nature of the game. Because when you're in love, guess what? You enhance your immune system. When you're in fear, you shut off your immune system.

Right away, that's 100% difference. an outcome. Right. And so the environments, the environment you're putting yourself in is going to control your thoughts. And if your thoughts are now no, no, no, no, no. I want to fix that for a second, Mendiya. Let's fix it. It goes this way. You're, the cells in a petri dish are directly contact an environment, culture medium. Okay. So cells adjust to the environment. I go, well, inside my body, my cells don't know what the hell the environment is, but they have to adjust themselves. If it's wintertime, I'm going to increase my metabolism and stay warmer. In the summertime,

I'm going to decrease my metabolism and sweat and cool off. I'm being adjusting to this environment. Okay. So I go, so what's the relevance of all this? And the answer is, the cells in my body do not see the real environment. They see my interpretation of the environment. I go, where'd you get that? I said, well, when you grew up, you know, like kids that are, you know, programmed to be bigot before they even know who they're a bigot against. Oh, well, we don't like those people. The kids, four years old never even met one of these people. And the parents are all talking about, oh, these people are the bad, bad people. And now the kid is 10 years old and meets one of these people. And guess what? He's got a filter. He knows, oh, you're one of those people. Oh, those are the bad people. Okay. But the one that I give that, actually, I put into an article, I really like it because it's, it's, It's like two kids are neighbors to each other. And there's a yard with a fence. And in yard one, a garden snake comes out of the grass and wiggles across, and the mother and the baby are there.

And the mother is a biologist. And she goes, oh, look at this cute. This is a snake. And she picks it up and everything. And the kid is, oh, this is a snake. I like that, you know. And I say, then the snake travels under the fence and goes in. next yard. And there's a baby there, but a mother who freaks out. And she sees the snake and

like the end of the world, it grabs the kid, runs away. Now it's 30 years later. The two babies are grown up, two guys, 30 years old, walking down a sidewalk. And a snake slithers out of the grass and crosses the sidewalk. One of the two is going to go, oh, look at that snake. Isn't that? That's a I snake. The other one is screaming bloody murder. Like, I go, so what was the point? And this is critical. They both are in the same environment, but they have completely different responses to the same signals. I go, where do the responses come from? The first seven years of programming sets up our filters, what's important, what's not important houses. And therefore, after that, this subconscious is where

those filters are, are running the show. So if that snake shows up and the mother of that one was the biologist and he looks at this thing, it's like, that's a snake. But if the snake shows up and the other one whose mother freaked out, sees the snake, he's got a filter. That's just, that's a scary damn thing. And he's got to freak out. Then all of a sudden I said, well, then how do you respond to the world? Right. How were you programmed? Because the first seven years of life is where where we get programs of how to respond. I go, how do you get those? And here's the cool part.

For the first seven years of a child's life, when you put wires on a person's head, you record brain activity, electroencephalgraph, EEG. Right. The vibration of a child under seven is not maintaining a level of consciousness. It's below consciousness.

It's at a vibration called theta. Alpha is a consciousness. That's a higher vibe. Theta is below consciousness. I say, a child up to seven is predominantly in theta. I go, what's theta? I said, well, characterize imagination. And I go, that's how a child, we have a tea party under seven.

We pour the nothing into the cup. We drink the nothing, and we talk about how wonderful the tea was. That's a tea party, okay? I go, why was irrelevant? And the answer comes down to this is that imagination is, that character. And I go, yeah, but here's the killer. Data is also hypnosis. If you want to hypnotize somebody and download a program into their subconscious, you put hypnosis. And I go, yeah, but a child's in hypnosis for seven years. I said, why? Answer is intelligence of the system.

And that is what? I say, Mindy, show me a book with all the rules that you have to have to be a member of a family and all the rules to be a functional member of a community. How big is that book? All the rules. All of a sudden, he said, oh, my God, I've got thousands and thousands of rules to be a functional member. I go, but an infant can't read. And an infant has to become a member of a family and it has to become a member of a community. So I said, well, how do they get that knowledge? And the answer is, first seven years, hypnosis, watch the mother, the father, and the community. and download what you see, just like a video camera. And by age seven, you've observed how your parents respond to all these different things,

how your mother responds, it's different how your father responds, it's different how the neighbor responds, but you're getting the download picture. So a child by the age of seven has experienced all the different behaviors to become part of that community. And it does so by nothing more than watching, observing. And then it turns out 90. But the last fact, Wendy, I keep showing up, but I give you this one. No, I have so many thoughts on this. Here's the full circle.

The conscious mind is the creative one connected to your wishes and desires, your spirituality. The subconscious mind only has the programs in it. And I say, when we're operating from the conscious mind, we're creating from our wishes and desires. But when we're operating from the subconscious mind, that's just push the button, play the program, push the button, play the program. It's habit, habit, habit, okay? And then I say, well, how much of my life am I using my creative conscious mind to manifesting my life? And I go, 5%. I go, what do you mean?

95% the conscious mind is not looking out the window. It's looking inside because that's where thinking occurs. So I say, Mindy, tell me what you're doing on Thursday at 2. clock and right at this moment, it's not in front of you, but if I give you a moment, you're going to go, on Thursday, I'm doing this. And I go, where do you get this from? I said, well, this is the programming, okay, it's built in. But I also say, but where did you get that program? I stopped looking out the window and I went inside my head and said, Thursday, what am I doing on Thursday? I'm not looking. I'm inside. So I say, so the conclusion, when we are thinking the conscious mind is not looking out the window.

It's inside. So that means it's not controlling a behavior. I say, yeah, but if I'm driving a car and I'm thinking, I mean the car's out of control, I go, no. Subconscious is autopilot. Moment I am thinking, subconscious grabs the wheel. It will drive that vehicle just the way I was programmed to drive the vehicle. Why is I habit? Okay. I don't have to think about driving after I learned and made it a habit. You can put the key in the ignition and not once think about all the things that you had to do the first day you got in the car. Mirrors, gauges, listen to the engine. And now you can drive without thinking about it. I go, yeah, but 95, this is then conclusion after, I'm sorry, so many words, but. No, no, it's awesome.

Conclusion is 95% of your life is not coming from your creative wishes and desires conscious mind. 95% is coming from the programs that you have because you're spending time thinking with the conscious mind. So 95% of your life is not coming from your creative wishes and desires. It's just playing the program. And I say most of those programs are self-sabotaging, limited, and disempowering beliefs. And I say, you play those 95% of the day. And they're not yours. No, they're not yours.

You've got them from where? Download. That's not what you want. That was just the program you got. Okay. So what's the relevance about this? Well, where's conscious mind when you're playing this program? I'm not watching conscious minds inside.

I go, so why? Well, when you're playing the program, did you notice anything about that program? Was it a good program and bad program? I said, how the hell you know? You were not paying attention. You were inside. And all of a sudden I go, so finally, I will come to a closure to let you ask a question. finally. But first, my last final, I always say that, then there's always another slide.

But my last one right here is story, same story, 30 years, because it's like the most valid boom hit you in the head. It's like this. You have a friend. You know your friend's behavior very well. You know your friend's parent. One day you see your friend has the same behavior as their parents. So you've got to tell your friend. You go, hey, Bill, you're just like your dad. And then I say back away from Bill. Because the first thing Bill's going to say is, how can you compare me to my dad? Nothing like my dad. And everyone in the audience starts to snicker and laugh because they're familiar with it.

And I go, closing story in white is the most profound one. Everyone else can see that Bill behaves like his dad. Bill's the only one that doesn't see it. And why not? Why is he playing it? Oh, his conscious mind is thinking. So he's playing the program. loaded from his dad in that first seven years.

And then what? Well, he doesn't see it because he's playing it only because he's not thinking. He's not paying attention. Yeah. Okay. And then I go, and now the conclusion of that story is very interesting. Everyone else can see that Bill's behaviors like his dad. It's only Bill can't see it.

And then my favorite punchline, we are all Bill. Every one of us is doing what Bill does every day. and you don't see. It's the behavior that you're playing when you're not paying attention, behavior that supports you? Or is it behavior that compromises you? How do you know? You didn't see it.

And so how would I know the answer is? 95% of your life is coming from the program. So I said, conclusion, your life is a printout of your program. Are you a happy? And your program? What's that? You are the program.

And your program was your parents or your community from zero to seven. Absolutely. The Jesuits, they always had a saying for 400 years. They told people this and nobody understood. And the Jesuits would say, give me a child for the first seven years and I will show you the man. That's a famous saying. I said, what were they saying? I said, just exactly what I just said.

First seven years, I even got that right. It's the program period. and then 95% of the rest of your life is coming from the program. So if I get the jail for the first seven years, I essentially have controlled the rest of the life of that program. And I say, and who are the programmed people? I said, we are. We're all in here.

There's nobody that got to this point without having programs because you can't use your nervous system without a program. The million-dollar question has to be, how do you change your program if you didn't like, if the first seven years was rough and you don't want to repeat the patterns, perhaps, of the adults that programmed you, how do you change that? I never heard that question before. No, I'm lying.

I'm lying like crazy. Ever since day one when I tried to tell people how the mechanism works, the first question is always, well, how do I change that? And I go, well, that wasn't my job. My job was show you how it works. There's go. But I do have answers after all these years. I hope so.

The idea is this. The programs are in the subconscious mind. And by the fact that it's called a program, it's also a habit. I say, as a habit, you don't want to change that. If I think there are habits that are good and there are habits that are bad, I say, when did you learn about a walk? Oh, before two, you learned that program. Why?

You practice. You stood up. You fell over. You practiced. You got the system to learn to control. roll and you taught, we're walking. Okay? I go, you know what's great?

That same program will run until you're 150 years old. You know, it doesn't change. I thank God it doesn't because I don't want to have to relearn how to walk. So I go, what's cool about a habit? Habits resist change because if they change, then they're not habits anymore. Okay? So I say the subconscious mind's a habit mind. I go, oh, geez, now I got programs in there I want to change. I say, resist change. And I go,

yeah, but guess what? I can learn new habits, right? Pick up an instrument. I don't know how to play it, but if I practice, make habit, I can put a new program. I can learn that, okay? So I said, here's a problem. We have confused the conscious and subconscious as one, the mind. I go, no, no, no. Two different minds make the mind. These two minds have different functions. and they learn in different ways. And that's where the problem comes from. What's the different ways? Well, the creative mind, by definition, is creative.

I can learn it anyway. Look, just listening to this conversation. I can learn something and walk away with it, right? I could just go, aha, I have an idea. I just put a new vision in my conscious mind. And I say, does that translate to the subconscious mind? I go, no, subconscious mind doesn't learn that way. I guess so why is irrelevant?

And I said, well, I read all the self-help books. Man, give me a test. I didn't give you a hundred on how to live this most wonderful life. And I said, are you living that wonderful life? You can get a hundred. No? And I go, that was the problem. You could read the self-help books, educate the conscious mind,

but that's not translated into subconscious program. And so going to the lecture and reading the book and watching the video, I can educate conscious mind, but it does not change the program. Now I say, oh, the subconscious mind learns in a different way. I go, yeah. First seven years had to learn. Theta, the low vibration, below awake consciousness,

that it was recording. Okay, so I say, oh, every night when you go to bed, if you put wires on a head, when you're at work, it's a higher vibration called beta. And then when you come home, vibration slowed down to a calmer, consciousness called alpha. And just at the moment your eyes close and you disconnect consciousness, the vibration

has just now dropped into theta. So your conscious mind's not aware, but your subconscious mind is open. So if you can earphones on at night to play behaviors that you want, programs that you want, a beautiful part about it is you might hear some of the program while you're still alert, but the moment Alpha shuts off, guess what? the speaker are sending words and your conscious mind doesn't even hear it, but your subconscious mind is still working. So you can take new habits.

It's called self-hypnosis, okay? Okay. Number two, that only self-hypnosis or theta work until age seven, but you learn things after age seven to drive the car, play the instrument, do the job, whatever. I say, how do you? I say repetition. You want something to be real?

It's called practice. Habituation. you actually have to live it. And I go, the new age phraseology always makes me laugh about it. It's called fake it till you make it. Meaning, I'm not a happy person. I go, you want to be a happy person? I said, yeah.

Then I say, all day long, every time you could think about it, you say, I am happy. I am happy. In the middle of, I keep saying, I am happy. Repetition will ultimately cause habit. habit is one day you wake up and guess what, you're happy, you'd even say it. Why? That's the program. I downloaded it.

Wow. Okay. So after age seven, you can put new programs in, but you actually have to do an exercise, a habituation, a practice to put it in. I like to offer this is that a sticky note on the mirror. A lot of people think, oh, that's it. It's a suggestion. It's not a habit. It does, oh, yeah, don't eat the donut. Yeah, I got it. Okay. That's not a habit. That's a suggestion. I'll end up eating the donut. Why? Because I didn't change anything at the original subconscious donut loving program. You know, if I want to change it, I have to change my vision of donut. Right.

Repetition. Okay. So that's number two. Both one and two, self-hypnosis, repetition is a time-consuming exercise. exercise. However, necessity, being the mother of invention, we are going extinct because of our behavior and we have to change our behavior. We don't have a lot of time. So nature came up with, hey, you can change behavior using something called energy psychology. And there's about on my website, this moment, Bruce Lipton.com. I have listed on that website, I have listed on that website, side about 20 to 30 different energy psychology modalities. They all essentially get to the same conclusion, but through different pathway to get in.

And I go, so what's most relevant? I go, these changes in programs can occur in minutes. Once you know what you want to change and what is it. The harder part is, what's the program I want? Yeah. Once you figure that out, that makes sense, I may take longer than let's put the program in. because you can do it in certain cases in minutes and walk away minutes later with a different life.

Just walked out the door, different life. These are the three fundamental ways. And I say, and then before you, I say before you use these three fundamental ways to change the program, of course, the first question is, what's the program that I have? I was just going to say, how do you know what the program is if you're too close to it? No, and guess what? When did the program go in? Well, actually, they've started programming before you were born last.

trimester of pregnancy. So let's say a mother plays music by her abdomen and the fetus is growing. And the fetus hears that music. When the baby is born, you play that music, the baby will instantly recognize that music. It learned already. Okay. So it starts in the last trimester pregnancy and it goes through age seven. So now I say, oh, well, you got programmed. Okay, what programmed you get in utero? What was your mother experiencing in her life? Because her blood with her chemistry, whether it was love or fear based on what she was, was the blood that was programming your cells as a fetus. So she was genetically expressing things in your body through her blood, okay, just like my own blood is controlling me here, but as a fetus, I'm living

up my mother's blood, which has information in it, okay? So I say, well, why is it born? I say, well, can you remember the program when you're in utero? No. Oh, well, you had a whole year from zero to one. Can you remember any of the programs? No. Okay, from one to two, a whole year, you got programmed. Do you have a full memory of what programs have it? No. By the time you get the three, you might say, yeah, I remember some things, okay? But here's the point. How do I know what the damn programs are? They were programmed before I was conscious. Thank you, Mindy, for letting me come to this most important thing. Yes, tell us. Yes. Your life, 95% is coming from the program, the subconscious.

I go, why is irrelevant? I say, your life is a printout of your program. I go, look at your life. I go, why? The things that you like that actually come into your life, they come in because you have a program to, you know, bring them in. But the things that you wish for and desire, and you have to work hard and sweat over and put a lot of effort in,

I'm going to make this happen. I'm working, I'm going to make this happen. I said, why are you working so hard? And the answer is, whatever that destination is, your subconscious program doesn't support that. And you're trying to override it. I will override it. I will lose weight.

I go, that's a conscious decision. I said, do you tell the subconscious about it? I said, why? Because weight is a setting in the subconscious. It's not a setting in the conscious mind. Conscious mind's out of weight. And subconscious is like, that's the program. And I say, so what are you going to do about?

I say, well, you have to change the program. And I go, why is that relevant? Well, I could diet. That's me overriding this thing. I said, wow, I work really hard. I hate it. I hate this stupid diet. I'm eating cardboard every night, but I'm going to lose weight.

And I get down to this weight and I go, great. I let go, program comes right back up, weight to right back where it was before. Okay? So I go, so why is all this relevant? And the relevance is this? it's not easy to take the conscious mind, which works 5% of the time, to override the subconscious program running again, 95% of the time. So the idea, that's where the problem comes from.

So now we're left at the conclusion. What do you want to change in life? I say the things I'm struggling with, relationship, money, health, whatever. If you have a struggle, it's a reflection of a program. So now you know what you want to change. And then you have to, and the harder part, as I said, is you're going to write a program and stick it in. So you have to be very careful in the writing of that program. It can go in faster than it takes the time to write it.

And it's really important. I'll just give you an example. Well, let's say I have a disease. What's my wish? I want to be healthy. Oh, let me put that into the program. I want to be healthy. So let's record that today, Mindy and Bruce, today recording what, I want to be healthy.

I put it into my subconscious mind. And we come back next year, same time next year. And I say, hey, how's that working for you? And the answer is, nothing changed, you know, through all of that. And I go, what, you haven't changed the program using a technique to change that program. So, and what is the, now here comes the conclusion. What did I just program? I want to be healthy.

Guess what? Next year, same time, I want to be healthy. I say, you can't get to be healthy. Why, you put the word want? One is a desire. You'll always be in desire. I want to be healthy. It's like, I'm, oh, oh, what's the program?

I am healthy. I say, you're sitting there with terminal cancer. And I say, and what are you telling yourself? I am healthy. That sounds so absurd. I go, no, because it's a program that goes into the subconscious. And the function of the mind is to make that program real. That's what it does right now.

It takes your subconscious programs and makes them real. Why? Because then your life is just as you expected it. God, I didn't think I was going to get that raise, and I didn't get it. I go, wow, what do you know? your creative reality was, I didn't think I was going to get it. And you didn't. Okay?

So basically, it says, if your life isn't working right, then this is really, you have to look at it and say, what is the destination I can't get to? And then start to recognize if I want to get there, then I have the right of statement as if I'm already there. Because my mind, if I say, I want, my mind will say, okay, you can want this for 100 years. You can still want it. They could have a 500 years. You could still want it. But if I am it, then the function of the mind is to make it. I am healthy.

The mind goes, looks at the body, goes, holy crap, you've got terminal cancer. You got a program healthy? Okay. Changes the chemistry. Adjust the genetics. And we'll turn you back into healthy again. Amazing. And so affirmations work.

repetitively it's a it's a it's a it's a habituation you have to repeat it religiously it's not like oh today i was thinking some very positive thoughts i go that's nice right five percent of your day who cares it doesn't make any difference to the 50 trillion cells that are operating from the other program and so all of a sudden i said those cells have to be habituated this is the program so you can't complain your you can't complain your way to a a different life. No, that makes it worse. I'll tell you why.

Sels are, you know, the subconscious mind is like a five-year-old child. I go, why is irrelevant? I say, if you want a five-year-old child to actually do something, then you'd be nice to that five-year-old child. But if that five-year-old child, you yell at it, you stupid ignorant, blah, blah, blah. I go, that five-year-old child is not going to really support you anymore. It's going to go, I hate you. I go, well, what's the problem?

I say, well, you were yelling at it to fix something. It doesn't like you because that's the way you treated it. Then it's not necessarily going to support you. It doesn't care. So it's really, cells have a consciousness to them. So if I injure myself, truly, I touch wherever I'm injured. If I cut myself, I touch it. And I see it.

And I say, this is healing. We're going to heal this right here. You go, what's that all about? I go, why in a normal presidency, if there's a disaster in the states, does the president go to the disaster site? It takes the attention of 300 million people focusing on what? The disaster. And the energy of that 300 million people is infusing that population with health. And that's what the collective energy is about.

So I say you've got 50 trillion cellular citizens. Something goes wrong with the cells. Take the government, the mind and say, you say these cells? Yeah. Hey, folks, this is going to get healed right here. I'm touching it. Why? That's the president landing where the problem is.

And that brings the attention of 50 trillion cells to hear, and that facilitates the healing. Amazing. If you yell at yourself and complain like crazy, I go, who listens to that? Not the cells. So could we do something as a collective consciousness right now in this moment? Could we all put our attention on what life will be like when this situation is over? And would that have to accelerate the movement in a more positive direction? 100%.

You can't have a war unless you get enough people to believe in a war. I can't go out in the streets. Let's have a war today. And everybody looks at me like, what are you crazy? You know, so there's no war happening. But if I get out on the street, get half a million people to say, yeah, we're right, we're that war. Prepare, because that war is going to happen. Okay.

And I say, so why is that we ourselves in a evolving body called humanity. 50 trillion cells inside your body. We have how many near 8 billion cells comprising something bigger. And when we understand that's the destination, all of a sudden you realize, do you like it? when your cells attack each other? That's called autoimmune disease, self-destruction. The answer is absolutely not. What is healthy?

Harmony and 50 trillion cells. I go, yeah, but they're all different kinds of cells. They're all different colors. Brain is white, liver is red. You know, all these different green in the bile. I go, they're all different. I say, yeah, but they work together to create a human. And I say,

seven to eight billion human cells. coming together create a higher level called humanity. Amazing. And this is where we need to go. We need to go out of, I'm separate from you, and you're a different color than me, and you have a different religion than me and I go, well, that's separation as anything could ever be. And evolution is not separation.

Evolution is the opposite of Darwinian theory. Darwinian theory is competition and survival of the fittest. And it turns out that is completely wrong. that is not evolution. A garden is not a battleground. A garden is the height of cooperation among all the organisms that comprise that garden. And I go, so why is it relevant? We came from a garden and our lack of cooperation with that garden is destroying the web of life, garden, and we're facing our own extinction because our behavior is not in harmony with the world. And this is the wake-up call. It says, you better learn to live in harmony with nature. You are not

outside of nature. You are nature. Right. We didn't come here. Like God created everything and then said, let's add some humans. I got, no, no, you came from the garden. And I go, so why is irrelevant? If we came from the garden to destroy the garden, then by definition, you just destroyed yourself. And this is where we are in this mass extinction. Amazing. If you were the Surgeon General of America right now, what would you do? Well, the first thing is, first take care of yourself. to be a functional element in this community. Because if you're not a functional element, then you're actually weakening the community because somebody's going to have to take care of you

and take care of the problems you didn't deal with. So the first thing is personal health. We are responsible. Epigenetics is the science that says, yes, your environment and your perception are controlling your genes. If you're not healthy is because you're not in harmony with your environment or your perceptions. That's the problem. So everybody should really start. to recognize, look, we make culture media. Remember, the chemistry of the culture medium controls the cells. I go, what kind of food are you eating? Industrial farm crap with poisons and toxins are eating organic, natural healthy food. Without that, it makes a difference on making culture medium blood. That's why you eat the food in the first place. Okay. So we have to start

recognizing we need to really eat better to live in harmony with ourselves and ourselves with us. Secondly, most of our food is so short of some very important vitamin supplements. And for health, to endorse and support the immune system, the most important recommendation is large quantities of vitamin C. I take 2,000 milligrams, I should call 2 grams of that every day, vitamin C, because it enforces and supports the immune system in this time. So does vitamin D, another one that most people are weakest in, and that also, enhances and supports the immune system.

Magnesium, zinc as supplemental elements. I want to make culture medium. In the lab, I don't go get my ingredients at Kmart when I make culture medium. I buy the most pristine best ingredients in the world because if I

compromise on the ingredients and put those medium into the culture dish, you can watch the cells get sick right away. Yes. The culture medium has to be fully supportive. So eating an organic natural, taking vitamins a supplement, especially vitamin C and D at this time. Yes.

Exercise. Why? The blood is cleaning and taking care of the body, but the blood needs to have this circulation system to push it so it goes through all the filters and does all this stuff. And if you're sedentary, you're not supporting the cleansing and cleaning up and maintenance of your body. So exercise something from just walking, just get the hell out of that house and start walking. It's great exercise, okay? So now we have, what, three things. We have diet, supplements, exercise, and number four, this is the one we're talking about

for the last hour, and I say, what are your thoughts? Because your mind is going to manifest them. If they're negative thoughts, then you're ready, it's coming. If it's positive thoughts, then congratulations, because you're going to improve your vitality, your health, and your enjoyment of living in this beautiful garden that we have. And so I say, yeah, if I was in that position, I say, first take care of yourself. There's an old hippie thing from a million years ago. It says, before you go out and save the world, take care of your own backyard.

Yes, or Gandhi. Was that Gandhi? I don't know if it's Gandhi, but he was be the change you want to see. Well, that's it. So we have to take care of ourselves first and then participate in a community of others taking care of themselves and the environment. and taking care of yourself since you are the environment. If you're going to take care of yourself, you're better damn well take care of that environment

because you're a reflection of that. So all of a sudden you see we can come out of this self-destructive belief system that we've been programmed with, programmed, that life is competition. People are threatening. They want to take away yours and you're going to protect. I go, that's not real. That was a belief system that has programmed us. Amazing.

And so the idea is this, you first have to take care of yourself. And you can look and here, if I have to say, the most important aspect of getting there is to look in the mirror and say, I love that person. I say, why? Is that relevant? Because when we did belief changes like those energy, psychology things, and we test for beliefs, listen to this number, between 80 and 90% of all, all participants, they will not test positive for I love myself. And I go, that's eight to nine out of ten people. They go, why is that?

Because when we were young, parents used to think if they criticize us, we'll make a better effort. I go, but if a child's under seven, they're not thinking. They're just recording. So when the parents, the kid cries because he wants the toy and the parent says, you don't deserve that. The child doesn't understand really the meaning behind that, but the child did record it. I do not deserve.

I go for the rest of the child's life as a program. I say, why is irrelevant? Well, then 95% of the day, if the mind is going to make that program real, it's going to compromise that person. So at the end of the day, the person goes, yeah, I didn't get it again. I guess I don't deserve it. I go, that was a program. Okay.

So you need to do this. And it comes up because love is glue and holds it all together. And if you don't love yourself, no one else can love you by legitimacy. Meaning if I don't love myself and someone comes up and Bruce, I love you. And I go, well, you have no quality control because I know I'm not. And then I will push that person away. And at the end of the day, then I'll come home and go, no, I'm not. lovable, nobody's here.

You've been pushing them away all day. Where the hell you are? Fascinating. Oh, my God. I could talk to you forever, and I want to respect your time. I do have a couple of questions for you. You've already, like, my brain is just going now, and I can't, I can't wait to go to bed tonight and see what I can program in there on the way, on the way into the sleep.

If you had, if there was one person on the planet right now that you could sit down and have a a great conversation with and learn something from, who would that be? Everybody, huh? Yeah. Everybody, everybody can show me something that I don't know because obviously I don't know everything. Yes. And everybody has something. Yes. And therefore, to say that all the answers come from this one voice, actually, that unfortunately redirects people, they buy that one voice. But if that one voice has any flaw in it, then everybody else just bought all the flaw too. So the idea is be open. and listen and observe and find things that feel good. Because when you feel good, that means the chemistry that's going from your mind is making harmony.

That's why feeling good is a reflection. Yeah, 50 trillion cells are happy. Why? I feel great. I love it. Is there a book that changed your life that you would say, everybody needs to read outside of the biology of belief? Definitely everybody needs to read that book.

But is there a long time ago book and there's a much better versions of it. But I read a book by an author Heinz Padgels, a physicist, and it was all about quantum physics. And I go, not quantum physics with equations and mathematics, which is like, I don't get that. But quantum physics and meaning and principles. When you understand it, it's like, oh, my God, the fundamental principle of quantum physics. And let me emphasize this, of all the sciences on planet Earth. Quantum physics is the most valid, the most, you know, tested, affirmed to be true. There is no science with more truth in quantum physics.

And I said, so why is quantum physics so important? You're ready? Principle number one. Consciousness is creating our life experience. And all of a sudden it says, my God, that's not a new age suggestion. That is the most valid science on the planet. change your consciousness and you will change your existence on this planet. Amazing.

Physics. Amazing. Okay. Well, you're incredible. Let me leave you with, I know people say this, but let me leave you with this question. If you had, and you probably already answered it, but if you had one message for the world that you could get into their subconscious programming and really help them live a happier life, what would that be?

that's something that I learned that I never had in my life until I got it, and then my life profoundly changed, and that is simply this. As a scientist, I did not believe in spirituality. I believed, here I am, animal, live, by amino acids, back to the soil again. But through the understanding of physics and then supported by epigenetics, consciousness is creating this situation we're in. And if the world you're in doesn't look right is because the consciousness you are using is supporting that world. And that it's time for us to recognize we're spiritual entities that we're here visiting this planet

using a virtual reality suit called the body. And the day that I'll close with this because we got to shorten it, the day that I was recognizing, and that was my science of epigenetics, which was the environment controlling the gene. I also recognize no two people are the same. Biologically, we knew that because I can't transfer my organs into you. Your immune system will say not cell. You put your cells in somebody else's body.

Their immune system says not self. The point is very clear. Obviously, there's a self because the cells are not interchangeable. They have a serial number on them. And the serial number in this particular case is a set of self receptors. And when I started to put together, I said, oh my God, we are downloading an environmental signal through these receptors that makes us different. And my cells respond to a certain vibrational frequency because those are the protein antennas of self,

on my cell. You have a completely different set of protein antennas. You're getting a whole different broadcast. And the moment I realized, I said, wait, I am a broadcast playing through this body. And so my closing sentence is as a, I can't die. Why? This is like a television set. And my source is the broadcast. And I go, you're watching a TV, TV breaks. You say it's dead. And I go, yep, it's not working anymore.

But is the broadcast still there? And the answer, of course it is. That doesn't change. And if a new TV set, a new body shows up with the same antennas that you have, your back, different body. It could be male, could be female, could be white, brown, black, yellow, red. That's the TV set, okay? I started to recognize this and I said, oh my God, I'm immortal. I can't. And then the last thing that I was going to say, got to it now is

as a scientist, when I first recognized, oh my God, there's a spiritual part and a physical part. And I asked myself a question, science. Why have both? Why don't I just be the spirit? And this is when I remark the joy of my 50 trillion cells turned out to be like Jewish comedians. And I go, what do you mean? I said, I asked the question, why have a body and a spirit? Why not just be a spirit? They welled up. The answer came from inside and hit me right in the head.

And the answer was a question. I asked a question. They answered with a question. I said, why have both? And the cells said, Bruce, if you're just a spirit, what does chocolate do? taste like. That is so profound if you get any Q I had. Surely you're going to answer that. A virtual reality suit. The cells make vision. The cells may convert sound into vibration. Smell is vibration, okay? Touch, love, emotions, vibrations that the body creates

that sends back to the broadcast. And so then why are we here? to create and to experience. And if they're great experiences, continue doing that. And if they're sucky experiences, well, then don't do that anymore. Simple. That simple. Yeah. Amazing.

Yeah. So change your vibration, change your life. Exactly. Recognize you are the vibration. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Well, you're incredible.

And how do people find you? Your website's amazing, by the way. Oh, we got a new one. It's beautiful. Bruce Lipton.com and it's got a community page, which is the best thing because so many people started to connect with each other over the same. Oh, I had this problem. How did you deal with it? Or this person had this disease. What did they? Now there's a dialogue. And that was the intention of part of the editing of this new website was to provide a place for people to carry on the dialogue. And then give each other ideas and information. how to make a better world. Wow. Well, this was the highlight of my week, even though it's Monday. I'm just going to say that you elevated my thoughts today. So I just want to say thank you for all your work and your consistent work.

I mean, you've been saying this message for decades now. And we're still right. It's still right. I love to that. We need you more than ever now. The world needs you. So thank you for keeping up the pace that you're at. Thank you so much, and I want to thank our audience because those are the other cells that

when they got this and we come together in a new body, a new form of humanity, the futurist, as bright as anything you could ever imagine. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for joining me in today's episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we'd love to know about it, so please leave us a review, share it with your friends and let me know what your biggest takeaway is.