Live Like a Girl with Dr. Mindy Pelz - The Cancer Conversation Women Aren't Having Yet with Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

Cancer rates are rising rapidly, especially among younger women. In this powerful conversation, Dr. Mindy sits down with integrative cancer expert Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy to explore what is driving this surge and what women need to understand about prevention. Dr. Connealy shares her 40 years of clinical experience treating chronic illness and cancer. She explains why hormones are only one small piece of the health puzzle and why lifestyle, stress, toxins, sleep, and metabolic health play a much larger role in disease risk. Together they break down the truth about hormone replacement therapy, GLP-1 weight loss drugs, peptides, and fasting. Most importantly, they explain how women can create an internal environment where their cells can thrive. This episode will change how you think about health, prevention, and longevity. To view full show notes, resources mentioned, discount codes, transcripts, and more, visit https://drmindypelz.com/ep331/ Check out our community membership at https://resetacademy.drmindypelz.com  

On this episode of the Resetter podcast, I am bringing you Dr. Lee Aaron Keneally. Now, I've brought you her before because she is absolutely one of my go-toes when it comes to anything that we need to know about cancer. You're going to hear in this episode, she has not only a book on helping people prevent and heal from cancer. She has a clinic that is doing some of the most amazing integrative cancer treatment that I've ever heard, and you'll hear it here in this episode. And she has an online program or an online community called Keneally MD that you can tap into once a month to learn a different lifestyle tool to prevent or reverse cancer. And in this episode, what I really wanted to bring her to you on was I want to want to. I wanted to know through the lens of cancer, what do we need to know about hormone replacement

therapy, g-lp-1s, and peptides. These are three trends that are gaining momentum in the healthcare world. And I know many of you are concerned about HRT and cancer, so we spend a large amount of time on that. She goes through blood work, she goes through lifestyle, she tells you what to live. She'll tell you what to look for. It is so well mapped out. Then we went to GLP-1s, and this one is going to shock you. So if you are either on a GLP-1 or you're thinking about a GLP-1, you need to listen to her advice.

This is a 40-year, in practice for 40-year cancer doc. She's been treating cancers and helping with longevity and prevention for 40 years. you have to hear what she says about GLP1 hormones. So you make the right decision for you. Then we go to peptides, which is so popular right now, and she's going to tell you some of her favorite peptides. She's going to tell you what to look out for if you have active cancer when it comes to peptides. And then, of course, we finish on fasting.

So many of you have asked me what types of cancers can you fast with and what can't you fast with. and so I wanted to bring Dr. Caneli to answer that. So you get it straight from an expert who has been in the trenches with cancer patients. So this is a phenomenal episode. You're going to want to take notes. You may listen to it a few times. It's definitely one of those episodes where you would want to listen to before you go into your doctor's office so you can go in very educated and motivated and be an equal with them.

So there's a lot of chemistry in it, so I don't want you to bug out because of the words that your brain might not understand because she does a great job of making it very applicable. And I really, as I was going through and interviewing her, I thought, this is one of those episodes that is going to save lives. So if you are touched by it, you are inspired by it, please pass it along, please share it with other people because what Dr. Caneli has to say here is truly. life-saving at a time in which cancer rates are higher than ever. So with no further ado, Dr. Keneally, and as always, I hope this really helps. Well, the first question I have to ask you because there is still massive amounts of confusion is about hormone replacement therapy. I get asked this all the time.

What do I think? This is hormone replacement therapy is not my wheelhouse. and I have my own personal opinions about it. But can we start off with what do we need to know? Where is hormone replacement therapy dangerous, if at all? And where is it a miracle cure? And how do we use this as a tool that each one of us can benefit from, not a tool that starts to build cancer?

Right. So first of all, when we think of hormones, men think testosterone, women think estrogen. But you are making hundreds of hormones. You have something called the hypothalamic pituitary axis. The hypothalamus sends releasing hormones to your pituitary. Your pituitary sends stimulating hormones to all the different glands and or signals in your body. So a woman has basically vore hormonal systems.

the thyroid, the pancreas, the adrenals, that's it on top of your kidneys like little hats, and the ovaries. And it's not like they make a hormone, they make lots of hormones. Like the thyroid is T0, 1, 2, 3, and 4. Okay? Right. So your thyroid is the battery to your body. If that is not working, you're not alive.

Pankerous is making primarily insulin and glucagon and pancreatic enzymes, but we're talking about hormones. Then the ovaries make really about 10 estrogens when you're making hormones, progesterone, and testosterone. The adrenals that sit on top of your kidneys make over 100 hormones. We haven't even discovered those. Oh, that's interesting. Yes, we haven't even discovered all of them. D-H-E-A is the primary adrenal hormone, cortisol, but there are many others. That's why there's not a hormone for the adrenal glands.

Now, there are other hormones. We have prolactin. We have melanin. We have aldosterone. We have basopressin. We have growth hormone. We have insulin-like growth. I mean, lots of hormones.

but hormones are the natural drugs to your body. That's a beautiful way to look out. Okay. And you're born with those and they need to work. So like as I said before, if you did not, if I removed your thyroid, and I did not give you replacement, you couldn't wake up. Wow. Right. So that's how important your thyroid home.

And the thyroid is the central organ to the end. endocrine system. Okay. So we have a lot of thyroid problems these days. Yeah, we do. Lots of different ones, okay? And so then people really forget about the adrenal glands. So your adrenal glands are your stress, longevity, and immune hormone.

Indocrine gland, okay? And there was a famous president, president John Kennedy. He had Addison's disease and he had to take all these hormones to stay alive. If I took your adrenals out, you wouldn't wake up either. Now, the ovaries, if you remove the ovaries, you are able to function, but not that great. If you took testosterone away testosterone, you know, from the testes, you know, you're just not going to feel that good. And I know because I have cancer patients where they castorate. the man and or the woman by drugs or surgery or both.

Wow. Okay. And so I know when you talk to these patients, they don't feel that good. Okay. And quality of life is everything. It's not how long we live. It's how well we live today. Beautiful.

Okay. And not feeling well makes you sick. Yeah. Vicious cycle. Yes. And so we want to try to make the patient have an existence. Right. Right. And so when people talk about hormones, because it's something I've been doing for a very long time. Yeah. Because we talked about it last time, but because my mother took D.E.S when she was pregnant with me.

Oh, yeah. And that was a very potent estrogen that was given for 40 years knowing its carcinogenic potential. and then I started seeing cancer hospital when I was, you know, 16. But anyway, so I never had two periods in a row in my life. So I was one day normal and one day crazy. And so I never didn't know who I was waking up to until I found progesterone. And then progesterone like saved my life. So, and back then I used injectable because this was a long time ago because they didn't have what they have available today. So any woman alive today, they're lucky that we have the vital information, as long as it is correct information.

Right. Okay. Because there is so much information, but we have to treat the patient with the problem, not the problem of the patient. Well, so. Okay. And so many people, like, everybody wants to have this, like, little, you know, precise spreadsheet, and that's what you do for everybody. and medicine has become a robotic conveyor belt. And that doesn't work.

Because, you know, there's 8 billion people, all of us have a different fingerprint. And everyone is unique. So you can't just say, oh, here you need some estrogen producer and you know, whatever. No, you can't do that because you've got to take into consideration. Do they have fibroids? You don't want to give them estrogen, okay? Can I just say one thing on that? This has been what has made me so irritated.

by the resurgence of the HRT conversation is it, and I want to make sure that people listening really hear what you're saying, because you can't just slap a estrogen patch on and every single woman and menopause becomes a breeze. Is that, am I accurate in that? You're 1,000% accurate. Yeah. Okay, first of all, estrogen patch is estradiol?

Yes. it's biologically identical, but like I just reviewed a case before coming on because the lady complained of swollen breast and she's taking this, this, and this. And I didn't give her the estrogen patch, but someone else. But then they always consult with me, you know, because people, it's okay. Good. Lots of opinions. It's fine. And then she complained of breast tenderness.

Well, that's a classic sign. It's too much estrogen. Okay. So I said, okay, tell her to decrease, you know, go to a half. and let us know how she feels after a week. So there's a lot of nuances to hormones, again, because there's no one like you. Yeah. And what one person feels good and the other person doesn't quite feel good.

And then there's that strange female, like one in a thousand that have no symptoms and they feel great after menopause. And you're like, well, you are so lucky. Yeah. I've only met me one or two of those. Well, one in a thousand, I say. Oh, yeah, yeah. There we go. So it's very, very rare.

And I'm like, count your blessings. You are so lucky because that is not normal at all. And menopause kind of takes a long time. So you've got the peri or premenopause. Then you have the menopause. But menopause says means cessation of hormones for a year. Okay. Well, so that means it goes on.

So it has all these stages. And that's another thing. How do you treat the stages of menopause? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we haven't even identified how many different stages there are. Exactly. And what your stage and my stage are going to be different. Yeah, exactly. And I always tell people, nature is nature. We have to honor nature what is going on. And then we have to support the body with what it's not doing. Right. Well, say.

Yeah. So, so, you know, so that's how I do. And then like in six months, you're, you may be a different person. Right. So we got to look at that. Until you stabilize now at my age, my body. my body, I pretty much take the same stuff now that I've taken, but I'm 68. Right, your long post-menopausal. I'm long past when I was in menopause at 50. So is there like a, there's no gold standard then for like, hey, at 35 progesterone's going down, you should maybe go in on some synthetic progestron, and then a 40, maybe estrogen's going down, maybe going to go.

Like, there's no map is what I'm hearing for when you take hormone replacement and how much you take it and which combination you need. Right. So hormonal problems start happening about 30. But I have patients who are 26, had a baby, felt great after the baby, feeling good, and then crash. Yeah. And so that means they need some fortification, but not necessarily with hormones, I use something called protomorphogens, which are the building block proteins. Are you familiar with standard process? I am. Yeah, we actually are doing some collaborative work with them. So, you know, standard process I've used for years. But they have protomorphogens, which are the building block proteins that turn on organs or glands. So if you use Simplex

F, and that helps direct the fortify and support the endocrine system to get healthier. And then feel great. They're like, in a week or so, they're like, oh, my God, I feel great. Okay. Amazing. So, so I give them simplex F. And that would be good for almost any woman at any age because of what it does. Because your endocrine system, like I said, it's the natural drugs of your body. So if you can naturally do it, that's ideal. Okay. It's never perfect, you know, but it's the right way to go. Okay. And then what I always do is I check, if I, I listen to the patient. The patient has all the answers, okay? Yeah, that's beautiful. And every patient is their own textbook, right? And so, yes, you can check their progesterone levels, serum levels on about 18, 19, 20, or 21 one of those days, and see if it's sufficient. And then if it's low,

I will give them some natural progesterone, either in a cream or pill, whatever, I feel like it's going to work. Okay. So should, should we be testing hormone levels starting at 30 then, like on a yearly visit to your doctor? No, I think you should be starting at 20. Oh, wow. Yeah, because, and I've been testing hormones for people, because hormones are like my, like, my passion. Because when you lived a hormonal conundrum, like you get it. Yeah. Because the book doesn't tell you, like living it. And when I've lived every single crazy thing you can imagine, because my body wasn't like a normal female. And I don't like think, I don't, I don't look at that as like I'm a victim or a problem. Right. I don't look at it like that. I have my science brain. I just look at,

okay, it's a project. We're going to figure this project out. And then my project helps others. Yeah, yeah. There's no better project than the one you do on yourself. Exactly. And then not that everyone's going to resemble me because they don't, but at least I'm able to translate that properly into someone else. So you've got to listen to the patient, which doctors don't do anymore because they don't have time to listen to people, God forbid, right? Because their electronic medical record controls them, right? And it dictates them. And then their corporate entity also dictates them. So they can't, they're not autonomous. And insurance companies. You know, people are so excited for their insurance. to cover stuff, but they don't realize how the insurance determines what the doctor can do. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Or not do. More important. Exactly. And so, and the insurance doesn't,

it doesn't cover. You should just have insurance for catastrophic. Right. Because I started out in medicine 40 years ago, there were in what they called indemnity plans. People don't even know what those are. So you had your insurance. They covered everything. Literally everything. Okay. We used to type the medical bill and send it to the insurance companies and then we got it back. And they paid, if you billed 100, they gave you 100. Yep.

Okay. Those days are over. If you bill 100, you're lucky you get $20 or $25. Yeah. Very true. Okay. So the doctor now, they're maximizing their minute because they're not getting paid that much. Right.

So either they aren't or the corporate entity isn't. Right. And so they just, there's no bandwidth for it. There literally isn't because the doctor's already working 12, 15 hours a day because they got to type, read this, fill out every little dot and tea and bubble. And that's how it works. Okay. So if I'm 25 and I'm going in for a routine physical, is there a way I can ask my doctor?

like, hey, I would like a full hormone panel. Is there a way to get that through to them? Or is that a tough ask? No, because you can request it. Yeah. So what you do is, I always tell people the squeaker wheel gets the oil. Yeah. And so I tell people, look, look, here's what you should ask for.

Okay. Like minimally. Great. And actually, lab prices have come down as a couple hundred bucks. Okay. And people can get their own labs, too. That's what I'm saying. So they can get their own labs, but you've got to know what to order. Yeah, of course, but at least you can order them. But you can do that.

But I would minimally do a chemistry panel, which is electrolytes, kidney liver, then a CBC. Those are kind of like basic. CBC checks your white count if you're anemic and it checks all your blood indices. Then thyroid, but you can't just tick T-SH-T-3-4. So many people have. have autoimmune thyroid problem, so you've got to check that. And then you've got to check their free T3 and free T4. Okay.

And then how I always do it is I always like the patient to do the basal blood at temperature to make sure that their thyroid's really working. Because normal blood test may not correlate to the patient. Right. Okay. Okay. So then you need a CRP, marker for inflammation. you need a vitamin D, you need a hemoglobin A-W-N-C and fasting insulin, yep, you need a D-A-G-A-Sulfate,

you need a Pregnolone, which is the grandmother-dall hormones, then depending on where you are, if you're having normal menstrual cycles, I wouldn't probably spend the money on the FSH, LH, and estradiol and progesterone. I would only do that if you were having symptoms, like let's say you're 40, 45, you know, you're starting to go through pre- or pari menopause, okay, to see if your, if your FSA is high, that means your body's saying make more hormones, so that means your body's starting to fail. Mm-hmm. Okay.

So, and then I would do an iron and a ferretin. Okay. So those are like basics, and like I said, you can get that for 200, 250 bucks. Right. And now that's basically a basic panel with hormones, but hormones, like I said, they're the natural drugs. They make you, they make or break you every day. So now if you, let's say you're 45 and you run that panel. Well, then I would add in that, Mindy, an FSA, an LH, testosterone, estrogen, estrogen, progesterone on day 20 or 21 of the cycle. Got it, because we need to know a little more about that.

But what I heard in the holistic point of view that you just presented is as a doctor, you would look at those labs and you might see, well, some of these hormones are declining, but I also see that iron is off, vitamin D is low, you know, CRP is high. Like, and then you would, my guess is you would start to treat many of the other things that were out of balance on that blood work before you would give HRT. Is that? Not necessarily. Okay.

So you would do it all at the same time. I do it all the same time. Got it. Yeah. Because usually I kind of, I mean, I know what we need to do. So. So if I'm 45. and I have other markers that are off out of balance, along with declining hormones.

If I just take HRT and I don't address the other things that are out of balance, is HRT going to work as well for me? No. No. Your body is 50 trillion cells of an amazing, miraculous, you know. Yeah. It's unbelievable. Right.

So everything relates to everything else. So this new trend of like everybody take patches. Like there was a trend that went around socials like put your patch on, put your patch on. It's such a small piece of the menopausal puzzle. Is that correct? Very, very. One one hundredth or one thousand. Yeah.

Yeah. So no, no, no, no. You can't, you just can't do that. First of all, as I said earlier, that when your ovaries were making hormones properly, you made like 10 estrogens. Right. So the main ones, though, after, you know, with time are astrodial, which is the batch. Estriol, which is protective against breast cancer, phenomenal for vaginal restoration.

And estrone. And as we age, the estrone levels go higher. So why do you want to use like one piece of it? Right. And then you make progesterone. And so anytime you give estrogen, you must balance it with progesterone. Natural progesterone, not synthetic progesterone, but natural progester. Right.

And then you need to fix the testosterone. Now, if you've had a history of breast cancer, you're in a whole other category. That doctor needs to know how to take care of cancer patients. Because why estrogen for everybody, breast, or whatever, is proliferative. It's growing. It makes things grow. Right.

That's why when I get a 30-year-old with stage four breast cancer, I shut down their estrogen. But I always tell them, okay, that's one-one hundred of what we have to do. But we've got to cut off because we've got to save your life because you have three kids. Right. Right. And we have to use things as a bridge to get to the other side. Yeah.

So this idea that got so popular in the, the last couple of years that we read the study wrong, then IH study, we like we read it wrong, feels like it's such a small piece of the hormone replacement conversation. Yet, I got to tell you on my platform, we have women that are like, I took HRT, I don't feel any better, or I gained a bunch of weight. Gained a bunch of weight. Yeah. It's a big one, and they thought they were going on it to lose weight. Or I took HRT, and I'm crying all the time now. So is there a way weak can, because, you know, people are going to hear this and they're going to want to come find you, but is there a way that we can say to our doctor, like, work with us as how do we work together

to find the right dose? I know my OBB is Dr. Felice Gersh. And we, she won't renew any of my HRT until we do full blood work every 90 days. Like she is like almost obsessive on it, which I appreciate. But a lot of women aren't getting that out there. And so many. Most doctors don't, they go take a course and they think they have it. Yeah. And then they try to do it Monday and then they're missing the pieces. Yeah. And so fortunately, 40 years, personal experience plus seeing so many patients.

Right. You know, you learn how to do it. Right. And again, like I said, there's not a one-size-fits-all. And we all, all everyone is looking for that panacea. That one magic bullet. Yeah. And I've never seen anything easy, quick, or fast.

Thank you. Thank you for saying that. It's not, you know what I always say? The worst thing that happened to health is we made it a noun. It's not a destination. It's not a tangible thing. It should have been a verb. It's like an action that we are doing when we're healthy.

Like it should be, we need to think of it as like an ongoing project that we're working with. Well, I say that every decision you make every day is a health care decision. Oh, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. And it's true. Think about it. So then is it erroneous for us to say that we read the study wrong? Because for some women taking HRT, if they have a history of breast cancer or other markers on their blood that are indicating, like, I'm obsessed with hemoglobin A1C. Like, do we, are there some red flags? Like, you got to find the doctor who can work with you if you have that history. But I'm obsessed. Are there any other red flags that women need to be aware of that they may be getting, taking HRT may set them up for a hormonal cancer? Yes. Well, okay, so the big things that contribute to cancer hormonally, low thyroid, if you're low thyroid, what are, what do you have?

Cold hands, cold feet, constipation, dried skin, weight gain, and fatigue. So all those contribute to the energy of the cell. Thyroid provides energy to the cell. So if you don't have energy, if you don't have metabolic energy, you have no functionality of the cell. It creates a perfect environment for cancer. So that's thyroid. So your thyroid has to be optimal. Okay.

You can take all the patches you want, but if the thyroid's not working, right, it's not going to be good. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now, then you talk about DHA. So DHA, so when you're about 30, your level should be about 300 to 400. That's why I checked 20-year-olds because a lot of 20-year-olds do not have good DHA. Right.

Believe it or not. So that is a strong other determining factor of cancer because what? How do you handle stress? Right. How do you handle your immune system is because you have good adrenal glands? And like I said, they make over 100 hormones. So you not only have to give the DHA, you have to give the adrenal gland support because you can't give 100 hormones. Right.

Yes. Yeah. So then testosterone is kind of interesting molecule because testosterone gives you that sense of well-being in the brain. Okay. Well, sense of well-being translate into positivity. It's beautiful. Your cells are listening to your thoughts 24-7. And so testosterone down regulates estrogen too.

People don't realize that. Yeah. Okay. And then it's great for your heart, your immune system, your blood sugar, your bones, skin, etc. Okay. So a lot of people have, look at all the women on birth control pills. Right. Okay. Like birth control pills is like, you know, it's not, it's not good. It comes with hazards. Now, if I have a 21-year-old that needs birth control, I give them, but then I tell them, here's what we're going to do. Because it changes the microbiome, increases growth of fungus. decreases testosterone, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, think about it. You're interfering with the hypothalamic put to arteria axis, which is your. And we put them on, we put our 12-year-olds on birth control. Oh, yeah, yeah, don't even give me. That's all another topic.

We'll cover that another topic. Yeah, you're right. Okay, let's stay with menopause. Yeah, like, let's stick to, yeah, because that's like, yeah. So anyway, and so then prolactin is kind of interesting. I'm seeing a lot of people with elevated prolactin. Oh, interesting. Yes, and prolactin, I believe, has a lot to do with stress.

And so, yes, I make sure they don't have a pituitary tumor by doing an MRI. But I have all these women, young girls, women 30-something years old, who have elevated prolactin, which is also a growth hormone. So, yes, you can use bromocryptine to lower it, which has some side effects, and sometimes we have to do that. But a lot of times I do other things. I always say, look, let's check your stress levels, okay? Let's do a stress inventory. So how are you handling stress?

Okay. Then I look at toxicity, all toxins, okay, not one toxin, hundreds of thousands of toxins. Got to clean the body. we don't, you know, things go to the brain just as well as the liver. Right. And then I use progesterone is a good antidote to prolactin, okay? So, and that's in men also. So the higher the prolactin in men, the more aggressive the prostate cancer is.

Oh, fascinating. Yeah. So prolactin is that standard operating procedure blood tests I do in the clinic. Okay. for the patients. And does it matter if you do blood or like where would a Dutch urinary Dutch test come in? Great question. So if I have a premenopulal woman, I'll have her do a Dutch test on day 19, 20, 21 to see how they're metabolizing estrogen. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I thought. The first time I saw the Dutch test, I was like, wait, if every woman did this, we would be able to stop hormonal cancers because

you would see what the estrogen, at least from a, you know, an estrogen standpoint, you'd be able to see what it's breaking down into. Yeah, at least, yeah, into that context. Yeah. When we talk about cancer, there's, there's a lot. There's a lot going on. And then you have the real danger hormone cortisol. Yeah.

So cortisol has a diurnal rhythm. So you can't just do a blood test to cortisol because that's one time of day. So diurnal means daily. So in the morning, cortisol is high, noon it's a little lower, four o'clock it's a little lower, eight o'clock it's a little lower, and nighttime, very quiet. So you have high cortisol, you progress cancer. You cause proliferation, angiogenesis, inflammation. Yeah.

Cortisol lowers the immune system. Yeah. So you have to do a saliva cortisol test. Okay. And a lot of people have high cortisol. Because I ask people. Especially now. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. So I ask people like, okay, so I ask every patient, every visit, how is your stress level? Oh, I'm fine. I'm like, you're fine, okay. Be sure you're fine, okay? But then you do their cortisol test, boom. And they're like always surprised.

Like, oh, my God. I didn't know. Right. Like, what? You know? Because it's hard to, I think people just kind of live in fight or flight. Yeah. and in our bodies being attacked every day from the uncivilized civilization.

Yeah, that we're in right now for sure. Yeah, can your cortisol stay high because of some kind of trauma in your childhood? The body keeps the score kind of thing. Like you had a trauma. The nervous system still thinks it's running from that trauma. Yeah, because there's the ACEs study at best adverse. childhood experiences, the more of that, the higher, you know, stress and it's wired in your DNA until you do trauma, drama work. That's why we, in all of our physicals, every new patient,

gets an emotional treatment and workup. That's beautiful. Yeah. Because this is why you're my go-to clinic. Anybody who wants to know where to go for cancer and I send them due. You treat the human condition without addressing the spiritual. psychological, emotional aspect of a human being. Yeah, it's so beautiful. So, okay, what if I'm, what if I'm 45, is the Dutch test still helpful? Yeah, great, but do it on day 19, 20, or 21. Got it. Okay. So those days, because that's when progesterone's the highest. So that's when you do the Dutch test. So I do both. You do both. I do serum. I do serum and the Dutch test. Now,

for menopausal, I use doctor's data test because it's a little more complex. comprehensive for menopausal one night. For the blood test? No, for urine. For the urine. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. And so, and then for, like I said, cortisol, I'll do the saliva cortisol test. Right. So you'll do those three. And how often, so if I'm, let's say I'm in my late 40s, I'm on HRT, what would be the normal routine that a doctor would run all that? Once a year, once a year? Once a year.

Yeah. It depends on the stability. If a patient's not stable, you've got to check the blood. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're not stable and if you're not Zen, then we need to, you know, we need to change things, you know. Yeah. So through your lens, you would say HRT has some real benefits, but we need to put it in a package, a holistic package that's unique for that patient. Right. And then you also have to address someone's existence. Are they sleeping? If you don't sleep, how are you going to have good hormones?

Yeah. Because the sleep disturbs their hypothalamic to a tuitary axis. Right. Okay. So you've got to get that in order and over 50% of the population doesn't sleep. Yeah. It's really true. Don't take sleeping pills are benzodiazepines because those increase cancer risk. Oh, wow. And dementia risk, etc. Okay. Okay. Then are you drinking water? Most people don't drink water. Yeah. Very few. It's half your body weight plus 10 if you do it. When you do exercise, you have to add another 10. and you've got to drink purified water, some kind of purified water. Okay? And because water provides electricity to your body.

That's what people don't understand. Your cells won't have electricity if you don't have water. That's why when people go on a hike and get lost, they die within three days. They never starve. It's they die because of no electricity to the cell. Interesting. Then you've got to eat foods that nourish and strengthen and heal your body. And you have to eat real food.

I know that's an unusual concept, but it is you've got to eat real food. Yeah, get off the package. If you read and you need to be a chemist to read the label, then you know this is probably not going to serve you, even though everything is chemistry. But you've got to eat foods. Like every food is like a QR code to turn that cell on. Okay. And then you've got to move your body. And you can't just, you can't just like walk.

we all men and women need to do walking or an activity something they like because if they don't like it it's not going to happen and then you have to do weights because now your muscle mass is a vital sign and so you've got to like we check everyone's muscle fat phase angle etc hydration you know doing a test That's beautiful. Yeah. So, and then you're not going to burn calories if you don't have muscle. Like while you're sitting, my muscles burning calories. Right.

So the more muscle you have, and then your muscles have mitochondria, the more you exercise, the more the mitochondria, the more the energy. That's what people don't understand. Right. It's just like, this is the way the body works. Right. And women, I would say, do not do weights. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, most women, well, first of all, I would say in 40 years, I would tell that I can get people to change their eating, but to exercise, it's a much more difficult. That's why gyms are able to stay open because if everyone they signed up went to the gym, they'd be overpacked. Overpacked, right? Yeah. Right. And so I would say about 10% of the patients really exercise.

Okay. But actually, and you've got to incorporate exercise in your day. That's, yeah. Don't think going to the gym. First of all, like, like don't add work. to your work. Yeah. Like, just go outside and take a walk.

Yep. You can do push-ups on the floor at home. I do my things on the floor at home. I, you know, I don't, like, don't just think you have to go to a gym. Now, if a gym encourages you to exercise or you've got someone to meet there with either a friend or a trainer, okay, great. But incorporate activity in your day. Like, I go and walk outside and have a meet.

Okay. And so just, and change it up, you know, like, bring up. Variety is the spice of life. Yes. And let's say you can only, you can't even do a push-up. Well, get on the floor and just get on your knees and do one. And then one becomes two. And then two becomes three.

It's beautiful. You can do wall sits. During commercials, you're watching a movie, whatever. Go do a wall sit for a minute. I mean, like so simple little thing. You know, it's funny. That's another trend that I've been like, oh, my God, all of a sudden we're being told, you got to lift heavy weights, you got to eat more protein. And like menopause has become this

like extreme sport that you've got to keep up with. And I actually did a YouTube video this year that went viral. And I explained the things I was giving up. And one of the things I said I'm giving up is the gym. I'm like, I don't, I don't want to be in the gym under synthetic lights with loud music, lifting heavy weights. Like it feels like it's going against my feminine body. And so many women responded to me and said, yeah, I can't, I'm like, I'd rather a hike. I've got a forest behind me. I have an ocean in front of me. I surf every day. I'm like, I just want to move my body in a natural state. And then you're adding to this. Well, pushups, you know, wall sits, tricep dits. Like these are not, you don't need any equipment for this. Right. Yeah. Well, I didn't have a gym

50 years ago. Right. Outside. Okay. That's right. Yeah. You didn't go to a gym. True. And so, and then, like, are you really going to go? You've got to say to yourself, are you going to really go? Okay. But I would say incorporate as much movement as you can in your daily existence. So, like, enjoy washing dishes. Enjoy doing anything. Like, I, like, run up and downstairs. I have to go get something. I just, I go, oh, I get to do more. I get to move more, you know? Yeah, that's beautiful. And nature is your best medicine. Yeah. Yep. I learned that this year. I want to be in nature because that's the ultimate balancer, the ultimate energy. You get, people don't realize you get electrons from nature, okay?

So electrons neutralize abnormal chemicals in your body. So there is, you know, in medicine now they have a name for it. Forest bathing. I'm like, oh, my God, now we have a name for it. It's like, oh, just nature's name. I mean, come on. Like, let's just get out there. Yeah, let's just get out there.

And it doesn't have to be an hour because people. Like, it's like pressure. Yeah. So start with, I wait till 15, 30 minutes. And then maybe, like sometimes I don't be about five minutes every hour. Yeah. You know, somehow get it in. But you really, really, we know you decrease morbidity and mortality, the more muscle mass you have.

And it's a dramatic increase in longevity. So, and start with more. Like I tell people, I show them how to do a walsit. And I just go, if you can only do five seconds, get five seconds. down pat. Then go to 10 and then put on your favorite song, you know, whatever. But make it and make it fun. Make everything fun. You got to like, you got to say I'm blessed to do this. Yeah. Agreed. You know. So on the hormone replacement, before we move to two other really key topics I want to talk about, does it, does the delivery system matter? We've got creams, patches, pellets,

trokeys. I mean, it's, there's all over the place. It's, yeah. You name it. Yeah. Pellets, everything. Okay, and I've done every single one of them with the patients and probably personally, too. So we go by pharmaconetics. So if you take a pill, you absorb or take anything, vitamins, pills, you absorb about 12 to 15%. Okay. If you use a cream, it's about 30% give or take, because everyone's absorption is a little different, all right? if you do a shot, it's 100%. If you do pellets, it's 100%.

Then someone's going to probably say, oh, then I'll just do a shot. Well, the problem with the shots, you know, you get this ebb and flow. Like it's not constant. You get a big influx and then it goes down. Right. And then if you do pellets,

so pellets are an invasive procedure. I put a little anesthetic in. I make a teeny little incision and I slide the pellets in. Okay. So the problem also with the pellets, it's in a little invasive procedure every three months.

So then you get a high peak and it goes down too. But some people swear by the pellets. Okay. So you know what I'm saying? They swear. That's what works. And so, like, again, it's,

you meet the patient where they are and make the patient feel as best as possible. Yeah. So I primarily will use transdermal. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Now, with DHA, I usually give it oral. Mm-hmm.

Pregnant alone, oral. Testosterone is not absorbed orally, so you must do it transdermally through the skin. Yep. Progesterone, like if I have women with fibrocytic breast, so give them cream. All right? if they have fibroids, if they have PMS, I will give them time release progesterone, natural progesterone.

Okay. Okay. So estrogen always pretty much topically because you bypass the liver. Mm-hmm. Yep. And I never used to use estradial. I use nature, which is some estriol and esteradile. Yeah.

Beautiful. Okay. And then the other thing is the esteridial cream that doctors give to vet, for women for vaginal moisture, that isn't the best hormone for vaginal mucosa. The best is estriol. Estriol is E3. It's the weakest estrogen and the best for the vagina. Okay. So if you have atrophy or dryness. If you have atrophy, dryness, or let's say you've had breast cancer, I'll use it for women to have, you know, so that they can have normal vaginal tissue. Yeah, that's beautiful.

And you don't have to do it every day. You've got, you know, I have them do it one to three times a week depending. I said, you figure out what you feel best on. Okay. That's beautiful. Then what other hormones? So estrogen, progesterine, prednisone, DHA. So those are the main, I would say, core hormones.

Okay. But you made a very good point about you must get your lifestyle in order because that is what makes it all work. work. Like, I tell everyone, I was talking to my son this morning. And, you know, my kids grew up in this, so they know all this. Yeah, my kids too. My kids can talk better than I can. Yeah, exactly. Correct. You're right. And so, and then they can tell you how to do everything. Yeah, exactly. And so anyway, so we were talking about, you know, like the biggest thing are these weight loss peptides. But people think that a weight loss peptide's going to,

outdo your nature, AI, and your body that you already have? Yeah. Okay. And then it's not just doing a peptide. Okay. Did you talk to the person about their sleep? If you don't sleep, you gain weight. Yeah.

Water, eating, you know, exercise, stress. If you don't have that right, then how are you going to lose weight? That's right. And if you don't cleanse your body, I do the 21-day cleanse on all my patients, minimum once a year. They lose 8 to 10 pounds with the 21-day cleanse. literally and feel phenomenal. They say they get sleep better.

They go, oh, we got our taste buds back. Yeah. That food is addicting and it changes how yourself work for you. So yeah, so talk about the GLP1 weight loss drugs because, you know, I've been just amazed at how everybody has been so willing to accept these drugs as these panacea. But I keep thinking, what's the dark side? What's the dark side? and you had a post where you threw a cancer lens of potentially some of the downfalls of the GLP1 hormones.

Can you talk a little bit about that? Well, if you really want to know what the side effects are, you can go read the lawsuits that are out there. There you go. Yes. Smart. Everything you want to know. Okay? And that's all public information.

Okay. Yes. So I tell people, like what I tell people is, so, 40 years ago, I started my practice with weight loss. So I know all the nooks and crannies on weight loss, literally, everything. And back then, you know, we had those little calorie books that you could buy when you went out of the grocery store, right? So I know the calorie of everything.

And I, you know, I've told patients to do food journals. They hate food journals. But if you don't measure, you can't manage something you don't measure. I hate to say with anything. Okay. Right. So I know the calorie of everything, et cetera. And then now you have to check the metabolic function of everybody. You mentioned earlier hemoglobin A1C. You mentioned, I mean, or I mentioned insulin. Okay. So if you're fasting insulin is high, then you're not going to, you're not going to

lose weight. Okay. If your hemoglobin A1C is high, you're not only not going to lose weight that well, you're not going to feel that good. You have what they call advanced glycation in products. You're aging. I tell people high in the globulin A1C is wrinkles in your body. Women get that. Yeah. Okay.

What's your recommended A1C for longevity? You know, ideal, ideal, ideal, 5.0. Oh, yeah. That's what I actually say 5.0 less. Yeah, yeah. So 5.0 would be great, but I will let you go to 5.2. Yeah. Okay.

So an insulin should be about five. Okay. Okay. So the GOP ones, first of all, think about it. You're interfering with a normal physiological process in your body. So that in and in itself is going to be a price to pay. Right. Number two, it is designed to make you feel full like you're not hungry.

Mm-hmm. So that in and of itself, are you going to be eating enough, and are you going to be eating enough nutritional foods to make sure that everything is okay? Yeah. Number three, and probably most importantly, it causes every GI side effect possible from top to bottom. Wow. So I feel like it's causing my gut is that it's, you have malabsorption because what do you? you have paralysis. Wow. So when you have paralysis, your, you know, your body has this natural flow

and energy. Think about pulsing. It's pulsing. Like you didn't wake up and say, oh, blood flow, esophagus move, stomach, move, intestines. No, you didn't do that because it has this beautiful natural flow and interfering with that because there's absorption taking place from your mouth to your to your stomach, to your small intestines, liver, gallbladder, and large intestines. Okay. Yeah. And pancreatitis, that's why pancreatitis is a side effect. Not to mention cancer, thyroid cancer, pancreatic cancer.

Like, you're going to risk that when cancer rates are one and two people. That's crazy. Cognitive impairment. And one of the biggest things that people complain about is what? Hair loss. Oh, wow. What is a sign? A sign of malnutrition.

Wow. So if I have a patient that comes in and they're 300 pounds, I'm like, okay, I'm going to help you. I'm going to give you a little crutch. Right. Yeah. And I'm going to give you a little dose. But you're going to do this, this, this, this, and this.

So it needs to be paired with lifestyle. No, no, it's a synonym clon. Right. You must do that. That. Yeah. Okay. And then get off of it.

If any online company or any doctor or any corporation is just doling out GLP ones, you are not doing it with integrity. Yeah. Well said. I'm sorry. Yeah. You are not doing it properly. You're not.

It's not okay. Right. Okay. Let's face it. Yeah. Even the commercials say, Mindy, it must be paired with eating and exercise. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? Yes. Yeah. And I think looking at the person doing everything, making sure you've identified fatty liver, hemoglobin A1C, CRP, vitamin D, is your thyroid working, is everything working for you? Why are you going to give yourself a shot if your body is only personally working? Yeah. And the warranties now, I used to say the warranties over at 40.

Now I can't say that because I have 25 and 30 year olds here with cancer and other chronic diseases. So now there's no warranty. Okay. And so you have to now practice medicine in a way, in a way that never has existed before. Yeah. That's beautifully said. Yeah. It's serious, though.

Yeah. I mean, really serious. Yeah. Okay. When the CDC is saying that 77% of the population, the entire population, is sick with chronic illness, and they underestimate, it's 90-something percent. Ooh. Ooh.

Okay. So we as a community of humanity need to teach everyone how to be a good custodian of the sanctuary of their cells. Ooh, that was well said. Yeah. And that is the truth. Yeah. Seriously.

And what I want everybody to hear, and this is where Dr. Keneally and I have really really line up is there is no free pass. There's no, get out of the shiny object syndrome of like, oh, I'm going to do this and my life will change. There's, hopefully people are seeing there is a holistic approach to your life that will either make or break you. And if you do something, there is a price to pay. Yeah. Yeah. It really is, unfortunately. Yeah. So that's what you want to know in advance because you got to, you've got to, like I always, like, when I practice, if I have to give someone a PET scan, okay, how do I protect them from the downside of the PET scan? So if I have to give you a GLP1, what do I have to do over here to protect the patient?

Oh, so, so smart. So constant protection, right? Yeah. Right? That's how you are as a mother. Yeah, yeah. Protecting. Well said, well said, yeah.

You know, and so that's the way medicine should be is what do we need to protect, guide, educate, and inspire our patient. Yeah, yeah. Okay, what about peptides, this new craze around peptides? I keep telling everybody there's some interesting things, but it's really the Wild Wild West. It is the Wild Wild West, and the reason why it's the Wild Wild West is everybody's doing it instead of being directed and guided by a mother. They're doing it on their own. They're like in the back corner, back alley doing it. Yeah, exactly. I mean, everyone, like the salons are doing it. I mean, I was like, whoa, wait a second, wait a second. Right. Peptides are nothing new, believe it or not.

Yeah. You know, life is all where you shine the light on. Yeah. And now the light is on peptides. Okay. But peptides have been around a very, very long time, okay? And the reason why I know is because I've used peptides in my practice for a very long time. So what are peptides?

Peptides are sequences of amino acids. Okay. They're building blocks for an organ, gland, or system. Okay? So there's peptides for your brain. There's peptides for your mitochondria. There are peptides for your repair of your body. There's peptides for your adrenals.

There's peptides for your thymus gland. I mean, there's so, there's, like I said, there's like 3,000 peptides. Okay. Now, the top peptides are like the top, I would say number one peptide is BPC. I knew you were going to say that one. Everybody knows that one. But in my practice, it's the number one reordered. Oh. So that's how I, you know, if you're like, if you notice a difference, you're going to reorder it. Right. Right. So that would be the number one peptide. Now, what is that? That is called the body protection compound. So like if Mindy goes in surfs for, three hours and like she feels like oh you know I'm wiped out if you took bpc 157 and as long as you don't have cancer don't take it a view of cancer okay that's what I want to know yeah yeah don't take it if you have cancer then you would use a little bpc 157 so it helps you recover it helps you have

injuries like if I have patients that have bilateral shoulder tears I don't oh just inject some bpc 17 in their knee, whatever part of their body. Because it helps your brain. The PPC 157 helps your brain. The first time I ever tried it. I was like, oh, I am on. I was like, well, this is too much. Okay.

Because I'm kind of sensitive to things. So I went, you know. It also helps the gut. Yeah. So it's really good to give it as a protective component if you give a GLP want. Yeah. Okay. then it helps your body repair like after like I said after extreme exercise or aches and pains

like you don't have that and it's a lifesaver for people but not if you have cancer doesn't matter what type of cancer yeah I don't use it if you have active cancer what about active cancer what about would you say that for all peptides and cancer you need to be working with the doctor who yeah who treats cancer like I wouldn't give TGF beta right which is also a repair of joints and tendons, et cetera. So I wouldn't give that because it can have angiogenesis. Yeah. Right. Right. So again, you have to be very careful with cancer patients. Okay. And I don't know if doctors, you know, most doctors don't treat cancer patients. Right. Meaning they refer to the oncologist. The oncologist is not using peptides. Yeah. So he or she doesn't

know because that's not even in their toolkit. Yeah. But they walk into their IV clinic and now the IV serving peptides. I've already had tons of people ask me, which is this good okay for cancer? Not okay. So they're finding it in other areas. Yeah, you got to be careful, you know. You just got to be careful. But if like if I want to help your brain, that kind of peptide will be good for you if you have cancer. Right. And then the ones for sleep. There's DSIP, which helps you for sleep. So, but the main ones I use would be BPC 157, TGF, creative for joint and all that as long as you don't have cancer. So we make sure all of our, none of our patients have cancer. We have a very unique preventive program that I will be publishing this year about how I have prevented cancer in patients who come to me to be optimally

healthy or health optimization or just, you know, they just want to have a beautiful lifespan. Yeah, amazing. Right. Yeah. So, so, so. In that regard. Then the one for the skin, you know, when I'm like all the skin. It's the DHKC. It works like a charm. Yes, and it's topical and or you can inject it. Okay.

Then for the, like I said, the brain, there's several good ones. Okay. The adrenal peptide. Now, I get these. There's a particular brand I use from Russia. And it's not always good, easy to get things from Russia now, but I started using those like 20 years ago. Okay.

And so the one for the adrenal, I love, and the patients love it, okay? And it was used for the Russian Army and by Professor Kavanaugh. Anyway, so these are great peptides. Absolutely no downside to any of those. And what's their name? And they're capsules. Very easy to do. Oh.

They have multiple ones, and I've used those for a long time. And so you just got to make sure you have reliable sources. You know what you're doing. Oh, there's another one I like for women is Cormoralin. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've heard that for women. Okay. I like that one because that helps stimulate your growth hormone.

And so I like that because you get, you have better stamina, better energy, you recover better from exercise and everything. Amazing. Yeah. So, so there's, there's, like, a lot of good ones. Yeah, mitochondria, MOTC is great. Mott C is amazing. Yeah. So again, and then how many peptides can you take, you know? Right, right. And do we worry if you take peptides that then your body stops making the peptides? No. No, we don't have that worry. Okay. You don't have to worry about that. I know there's been so much, you know, that people, but it doesn't really, it doesn't do that. Right. Okay. Like, like they say, say melatonin. Like there's all these studies about melatonin. I'm like, oh my God, no, this is erroneous information. Everything's in the dose. You're not going to turn off your pineal gland. First of all, your pineal gland is already pausing. You need a little, you need a little bit of melatonin. Now, if you're 30, you don't. Most likely you don't need it. Okay. But over 50, you probably need a little

melatonin. Right. Not only for sleep, but it's a phenomenal for your circadian rhythm. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. And then it's great. It's an antioxidant. an anti-inflammatory and very anti-cancer. Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard that. So, again, if you're sleeping fine, I really don't. Oh, I know one really good peptide because I cycle it every three months. And I'll send it all to you, Mindy.

But it's called indolutant because it lengthens the telomeres. Oh, for longevity. Yeah, for longevity. So I do that every three months. I do a month and then I take a break and then you go another month. And that's a lot of times how I'll do it is cycle things. Yeah. What about NAD?

A lot of people have been saying that NAD can be associated with cancer, and they put it in the peptide category. Exactly. So you want to be careful about NACB. Yes. So I give NAD sublingual. I do, I have done IVs because I've treated patients for addiction. And it's an amazing thing to reset their mitochondria back to normal. But a lot of times I just give people shots because there's nothing like a little injection every day.

Agreed. But again, I don't give it to cancer patients, you know. Right. not active cancer. Yeah, active cancer or, yeah. I'm very, there's something in science called the precautionary principle. And that's what I am is precautionary. Yeah.

Anything new? No, let 10 million people go figure it out. Figure it out first, yeah. I'm the same way. I'm a little skeptical until I see how long. I got to do my own research and look at my own trend. Well, no, you've got to look at the living laboratory and the results of that. Right. You know, because clinical studies, they only use so many people.

Yeah. But wait until you get millions doing it. Right. And then you see the answer. I mean, look how many drugs have been recalled. Yeah. People have been killed. Yeah. And they've been recalled, et cetera. And you don't want to, I don't want to be a guinea big. Actually, you know, the oldies, but goodies were good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know? Right. It's true. Go use older things like medicines. I always try to use medicine that already we've been using for 10, 20 years. years, it's good. And it's wonderful. Yeah. Let's finish up on this because I get asked this all the time and you're the person to answer it. Does fasting work for every cancer or there's some cancers that you shouldn't fast with? Well, I would say, first of all, fasting has been around

for a very long time. It's probably in every religion. Yep. And there's a great, I know you know a lot about fasting, but I always have my patients watch the documentary, the science of fasting. It's great. I agree. Yeah. So I use fasting for cancer, weight loss, fatty liver, all kinds of things. All of it. And I was telling you earlier that I, the longest I've ever had patients do fasting, and these were cancer patients, was 30 days. I know people's jaw will drop when they hear 30 days, no food. But I always ask the patient, what do you think you can do? And if the patient says, I can do whatever you tell me to do.

And I go, okay, I throw out stuff and I just see what they can do. But I love fasting because fasting, the body goes in instant repair, clean up and repair. So I love it. It gives a body a rest. The only thing we always have to be concerned about is the rapid release of toxicity to the body. And that's with GOP-1s and fasting. Because GOP-1s, people go, oh, I only ate five morsels today. Okay.

So what are they doing? That's why they end up in the emergency movement the gallbladder attack. So you want to be careful about the release because your fat acts as a storage depot for toxicity. That is the worst thing about that. It's a metabolic organ in and of itself. So all of it has to go through your liver gallbladder.

So you want to be careful about that. You might want to add castor oil packs to your liver. Oh my God, I do that all the time. Yeah. Okay, great. And so castor oil to any part of your body is great. But anyway, but to your liver. And, you know, you could be doing like detox baths.

Like if you don't have sauna, infrared sauna's great. But if you don't have that, you can do a detox bath. So just be mindful of that is that the rapid release of toxicity from the fat cells. What about things like activated charcoal? Is that it's only in the gut that you're going to catch that? Right. What I use is zeolite. Ah, yeah, yeah.

I use zeolite instead. Yeah. But that is phenomenal to catch the toxicity. It's great for fene up in the gut and the release of toxins. That's something I take every day. The zealites need to be taken in small amounts, though. I've seen some people really detox a lot out quickly and make themselves crazy. Right.

That's true. You know, also it's experience on what zeolites, and everybody kind of like says, oh, mine is the best and nine is the best. But people don't realize that zeolite is nothing new. It's a very, very old substance used in industry to clean up. Yep. And so zeolite is really good for children and adults. And because we're living in the great poisoning, so we all need to clean our body daily. And so, but I always start people, start slow.

Yeah, right. That's what I always say. Yeah. Do you have a brand you like? I use on my patients something called zeal charge. Okay. And that's what I find is the best. I've used all kinds of zeolites because I've used zeolite for probably 25 years.

Yeah. Again, that's also a new thing. Yeah. But I've used that for a very, very long time. Yeah. So, but I use something called ZioChurch. That's what I give the patients. Okay, great.

And it's like easy to take. And people notice, they really notice a difference. Yeah. Yeah. Last time you came to me, I remember one of the things that stuck out to me the most because you have such a unique lens was you were telling me the trends of patients that you had and you were talking about how they're younger and younger and younger. Are you seeing any new trends right now of chronic disease that, you're telling me?

we're not seen from our angle. Well, the number one thing that I want to talk about, because yesterday I was interviewed for a newspaper, and the reporter asked me, she goes, she goes, are people interested in prevention? We say yes. One percent. And I said, well, I will say, compared to three years ago, people are now much more, but it needs to be much, much more. Okay. Okay. I will tell everyone out there, prevention is priceless. It's easy for me to create health. It's complex, complicated to treat illness, sickness, and disease, bottom line. And what I'm seeing is that the majority of the population have one or more

chronic illnesses and very few people are healthy. Cancer rates have gone up. 80% from 18 to 59 years of age in the last 30 years. Wow. 80%. 80%. Wow. And it's not like small cancers. We're talking big.

Big cancers. When I say big, they're stage four. And I'm like, oh. Like they show up at your doorstep stage four. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, yeah. And then every day it's like, should we go to the hospital?

Do we do this? to be, I mean, I just got, they told me, oh, this patient's heart rate. And like, okay, it's stress for me and the patient. So let's like, why, we need to create peacefulness, loving and joy. And we can do that by each one of us, taking responsibility and inventory for ourselves. And Ticknacht Han, do you know Ticknott Han? Yeah, I do. I love Ticknod Han. So Ticknod Han says peace begins when each one of us take care of ourselves. I love that. Right. That's beautiful. And so, like I always tell my children, I go, you have to listen to me because, you know, kids really don't want to listen to you. Really? I haven't had that experience with my children.

Yeah, I'm hearing you. Anyway, I said, you need to listen to me because your problems become my problems. It's right. And that's the thing about health. People don't realize that your health actually affects everybody around you, too. Right. Well, that's what I always say. Look how incredible the world would be if we just all.

today made a commitment to create health. The patient's going to be happier. The significant others are going to be happier. The family's going to be healthier because when they all come in, they come in with the family. Then the community and the world's going to be happier. It's beautiful. Agreed. I could not agree any more than that.

And so literally it's not some magic potion and pill. It's really not. No. It's really, you have the AI in you to do it and take care of you. Yeah, that's beautiful. Literally. Okay. And people just don't realize the miracle.

They live in. And if we talk from the time you're born that you're a miracle and your body knows how to do everything. Like everyone's talking about the vaguest nerve. And I'm like, wait, like, my buddy knows how to do it. I need to get rid of the things that are causing. the Vegas nerve interruption. Bingo. Bingo. Yeah, I can't, I don't want to do gadgets. Okay. Like, I can't do gadgets. I got to be, my day is full to read a gadget. Like, no, no. And sensors and monitors. No. I can monitor myself. If my clothes don't fit, I'm gaining weight. Yeah. Okay. Well said. So, anyway. Yeah. Well,

you're amazing. Tell me, okay, so you have an updated book. Just let everybody know your book. Yes, I will show it right now. So this is the Cancer Revolution. So you want, even if you don't have cancer, like it's how to live. Okay. It talks from everything from sleep, water, emotion, EMFs, you name it, toxins. There's incredible things. It talks about blood work, like all the blood work and why you need it, whether you have cancer or don't have cancer.

And then, of course, I have Conellium D. I try to educate, you know that all the time. I try to think about things that people don't think about Mindy. I can see that even on your socials. really unique. I love it. I love watching it. Yeah. And then we every month we have the perfectly healthy where I educate people on something or I have special guests like people who are. Because I've been doing this 40 years, I like really outside the box things. And so I do that. And then of course we have the clinic, the Center for New Medicine, which is human optimization, longevity,

and chronic diseases, and then we have the Cancer Center for Healing Science. You are a force. You are doing great things in the world. So I really appreciate. Yeah. Yeah, I just appreciate your holistic point of view, who you are, how you show up, the way you partner with people in their health. So just, yeah, thank you, because this is the conversation I wanted to have around H.R.T.

and GLPs. And I think it leaves room for people to understand where they can use it and where they need to take some responsibility on their own. So appreciate you so much, Dr. Caneli. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for joining me in today's episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we'd love to know about it. So please leave us a review, share it with your friends, and let me know what your biggest takeaway is.