The Ringer NBA Show - Best Trades and Landing Spots for Giannis | Real Ones

Episode Date: January 31, 2026

Logan Murdock and Raja Bell are back with another edition of Real Ones. On this episode, they explore a Giannis trade to every other team in the league. What would each team have to give up and will that make them an automatic contender? (1:48) Atlanta Hawks(8:33) Charlotte Hornets(17:20) Denver Nuggets(21:14) Detroit Pistons(23:59) Golden State Warriors(29:49) Houston Rockets(35:47) Los Angeles Lakers(37:30) Miami Heat(46:26) Phoenix Suns(50:44) San Antonio Spurs(53:47) Real One of the Week Hit the mailbag! [e-mail]: Logan Murdock and Raja BellProducers: Victoria Valencia and Clifford AugustinProduction Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out ⁠rg-help.com⁠ to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's good? Logan Murdoch here, Roger Bell, and a few real ones today where we talk about mock trades to get Janice for 29 teams in the NBA, where somehow all 29 teams have been able to fleece the bucks into getting Janice into the cumbos? And we talk about, we asked two questions. How long would it take for said team to be a contender? And do you trust the front office to be able to provide that? very wonky, very hilarious, very fun. Real ones. Next. What's popping? Real ones. Logan Murdoch here, Roger Bell there.

Raja is time for the gimmick episode. This has been the week of Janus, who has reportedly been open to trade talks. I don't know the language here. He's official, like, I don't know, teams are, like, about to start submitting bids and trying to get him. Some teams are trying to get him during the deadline or before the deadline next week. And other teams are going to try to get his services afterwards. But we are going to do today is we are going to do a fake trades episode

and not the normal fake trades episode that like you're used to. Raj is really like chill, Roz. Let me just explain what we're going to do. We're going to do the fake trades episode for all other 29 teams in the league. And we're going to ask two simple questions. Will this trade for Janus take the team to contender status? and how confident are you that they can do it? Said team can do it even with Yannis Adedekumba.

Let's get to the pod, okay? First team is up is the Atlanta Hawks. Let's just say, you know, hey, Atlanta Hawks called the Bucks. This is after the draft. Hey, we got this 26 first round pick from New Orleans. That's the number one pick in the draft. We're going to give you Kispert.

We're going to give you Dyson Daniels. We're going to give you Okongwu. We're just going to make the numbers work and you're going to give us Yadis. How long will it take? And the Hawks are keeping Jalen Johnson in this exercise. So how long would it take for the Hawks to become a contender in your eyes? I think you're pretty quickly leveling up from where you are now as a team. How long does it take you to get into the upper?

echelon of the Eastern Conference. I'm assuming Jason Tatum is back next year. So I've got Detroit, the Knicks, Boston. I think you're still outside of that level of team, at least initially. But I think you level up pretty quickly, obviously, with the addition of Janus. Two years, maybe. I think you need some tinkering around the edges, some pieces, some complimentary, some complimentary, like, pieces. but to get those right, I think you have to see that play. I think you have to see the combination of the two players play and really get a real assessment of what you would need to complement them. So for that reason, I think you're two, three years away, two years, two years, maybe.

Yeah, I think this would be a pushing the button before you're ready type of deal for the Hawks, right? You're trying to build around Jalen Johnson. And he also has to mature to a basketball player, right? not just in the regular season, but going into the playoffs and to reach the heights that you would want to reach as a team. Yeah, I think you're about, right, three years. I don't think that's on Yonis's time, not necessarily, but I think the Hawks very much are in play here

because they have, I think, the best package to get Yonis with that potential New Orleans pick, especially if it goes number one, because it allows Milwaukee to be able to replenish very quickly And then if you give them a 27 pick next year as well from, I think it's from New Orleans. It's top four protected. If you do get, you know, another pick, you can replenish pretty fast with that. So two, three years.

I think we're in agreeance on that. Boston Celtics are the next team on the board. So Boston calls the Bucks be like, yo, man, hey, I know we're conference rivals, but, you know, we want two different things here. I'll give you Derek White, Peyton Pritchard and some picks. And the bucks are like, yeah, come here. Come on. It's all good.

Why not? Yep. How long? Well, how long does the flight take to get from Boston, I mean, from Milwaukee to Boston? What, about two hours? It's about two hours and 30 minutes. I'm assuming there are facilities relatively close to the airport. Yeah.

Two hours, 45. Three hours, let's just be safe, right? He's got to maybe wait for a couple of bags, hop in, hop in the car service, about three hours, three 15. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's safe. You're going to pair him with Jalen, with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum,

and then I'm going to tell you that I'm not really tripping off the, off the roll guys as much. Sure, we have to fill those jerseys, and we want complimentary skill sets and guys to do certain jobs. But like with that level of high-end talent, like, I'm not really tripping, bro. We'll get that.

Give me a couple names. Give me a couple names. We're talking about a couple names? You know, just like any names. Can you be a role player in this Boston Celtics team? No, no, no, no, no. No, not now, but like, like, yeah, towards the end of my career when I was not my,

when I was not like myself from five year or four years ago, Like, yeah, those type of players, when you're dealing with that level of, that level of stardom and shot making, creation, scoring, defending. Like, think about that. Like, I'm just, you know, I usually, my mind goes to offense first, but like just, yeah, I like that. I mean, that's an easy one, right? However long it takes for him to get from his house in Milwaukee to the practice facility in Boston. That's when they're a contender. How confident are you that they can do it?

Very confident, right? That they can pull the trade off? No, no, no, no, no. They're not, this is not having this all hypotheticals. No, no, yes. I probably won a championship that year, right? Yeah, dude. Like, yeah.

In the three, so that would be how everybody days are left in the season until the final game. And plus those three hours of 15 minutes. Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool. Let's go with the Brooklyn Nets. This is insane. The Nets call. Say, hey, man, we're going to give Michael Porter Jr., Nick Claxon,

some of our picks, plethora of picks that we've gotten from the Nix and the McEl We're just going to trade you straight up. And the bucks are like, okay, let's do it. How long would it take for the nets to become a contender? And how confident are you that they can do it? Yeah, I don't, I don't think they've become a contender in Janus's timeline. Like you've given up. I mean, what are we doing?

We've just, what is Janus? If I'm Janus, I don't know what his contract says. I don't know what his contract says. I don't know. Absolutely not. If they've got to give, no. Thank you. No, thank you. No disrespect to Brooklyn as a franchise or anything, but like, I don't, we're starting from, from a place where it's me, you know, and then the roster has to be completely built out. Like, I can't, I, that for Janus, I don't understand how that would make any sense. And, you know, I have kind of, I have some faith in, in Brooklyn. I'm not going to say they can't do it, but I don't know how long that would take. I don't think that fits his window at all. I think, well, First of all, the trade is not going to happen.

But one thing about Brooklyn, whenever they go star chasing again or inherently do, they're going to have to figure out once that star is in the building, how to build a contender. Because the last two times they went star hunting, they got the stars, but didn't necessarily get the results that the stars would want. So they got to figure that out. But that's a five-year plan. Let's go to one of your other favorite teams, or league pass faves. the Charlotte Hornets. So the Charlotte Hornets get on the phone.

And they say, hey, we're going to give you a lamello ball. The sweetening will give you Brandon Miller. I understand, you know, got to do what we got to do. And then, you know, we put a couple first rounders on the table for you. So now you have a CINLOR. I mean, you have to give a Brandon Miller or a con canipal. One of the two. Okay.

Who do you take? So how long would it take for them? be a contender and how confident are you that they can do it. Here's the other thing, though. I don't think that the bucks would be crazy to take on that Lamello contract, but let's just say to make the salaries work. They were like, hey, you know what? We're rebuilding. We're probably going to lose anyway with or without Lamello as our number one guy. We'll take on the contract. Can we just acknowledge that Charlotte is, okay, is like they're not. Bro, they're building. They're doing great right now. Yeah. Despite the jokes. I'm like, you know, okay, can I just say real quick,

quick aside. Please do. We had the jokes for the Hornets and the beginning part of the season, but they were in those games, and they've had some really impressive wins over the season, right? Something that you wanted of a young team, you don't necessarily need the wins record, necessarily, and you don't got to win 47 games. We have to have the right wins. They beat Oklahoma City. They've beaten a lot of other great teams. And this league had a lot of random wins that they probably shouldn't have otherwise. There are a few games out of the playing. Like, I like, I like, I had to hold my tongue because I was going to say, I was going to say they're good. And I, 21 and 28, I can't, I can't get myself to say that.

But I will, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, you know, they got there. You can look into the pot and see the stuff starting to like work together a little bit, right? Like, you know, when you. I like it. I don't know, you're making a soup or a sauce or something like that. Like, you're throwing it all in and you check back in a few minutes as it simmers and you're like, hey. Yeah. It's a good little milk.

Yeah. Um, yeah. I think if you put Janus in there, you got. You had to move Lamello, Brandon Miller. I would go to, not unlike what I said with it, like Concanipo is a dude, man. He's a real. Do you see him last night?

Dude. Is Cooper Flagg? Yeah, dude. That's crazy, man. Like, Coop, well, Coop is crazy, too. But Con's is just, it's aesthetically different. It's really, it's really steffish. Yeah.

Clayish. I think clay might be, I hear people say stuff, but like clayish, we're like, you don't need dribbles. We're just, we're just moving,

moving, moving shot. Two years. Two years. Maybe three, kind of like Atlanta. I don't think it happens right away. But I do think you are, you are leveling up pretty quickly

and you have some nice pieces already with him. And so, yeah, two years, maybe three. Okay. Is that fair? That's fair. That's fair.

That's fair. I don't think they win a title, though, necessarily. But, you know, it's going to be, it'll be fun. Oh, yeah. Well, then that might keep forgetting to answer the second part of the question. Yeah, I would agree with you on that. Like, I don't know that that happens, but I think they're getting in the hunt. All right.

Let's go to Chicago. Chicago Bulls get on the phone. They're like, yo, man, you know, Chicago is only a 45-minute flight or a 45-minute drive from Milwaukee. It just was bringing a sprinter up for you honest. We'll give you Fooch. We've got a Zach Collins expiring, Kevin Horder and Kobe White. All of our picks for the next four drafts. The Bulls get Yonis.

How long it takes for them to be contendered? How confident are you that they can do it? I'm a little weary on the second question, but... Yeah, the second part of that question is not very. The first part of that question is harder for me with that roster and the pieces that are left over to visualize it. not saying anything's wrong with the pieces left over, but it's just a,

it's proven to be a little harder of an exercise for me. I still think, I still think, I would say we're, where Atlanta, I would say Charlotte, obviously Boston was the shortest of the ones we've covered so far. I put Charlotte at two.

I put Atlanta at three. And so Chicago I would put in the four spot. I'd say three to four. Okay. Three to four. Or, uh, goddess is like two to, two to four maybe three. So hard when you're, yeah, three, I'd say three. I'd say three.

And then maybe four. Yonis is putting the phone down. Like he's like, you know, it's, it's fine. It's fine. I don't, yeah, good. Yeah. Um, let's go to Cleveland. Yo, we're giving you Evan Mowbilly.

If you want Darius Garland, too. Huh? That's a long time. That's a long time. I might not be doing a good job with this exercise in fairness. Like I, it has everything. do with the teams. One, you're going to, let me just recalibrate, though. Like, one, you're going to roll out there, and it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be what it is. Two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three.

Okay. For a team like the Bulls, three, I think is, it's fair. Four might be crazy. But we also don't trust their front office to be able to put the pieces around and actually get it done for three years. Yeah, they go hand in hand. You're right. Yeah. Cleveland, Evan Mobley, the nearest girl. I'm going to give you this 2030 pick in 2031. pick. But, yeah, it's on Cleveland right now. Yeah, I mean, Kobe Alman just, Kobe Alman executive in the year.

Cleveland's closer to Milwaukee than Boston, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that, yeah, yeah, that's number one. That's gonna be like two hours and 37 minutes. Yeah, right? Like, Cleveland, Milwaukee, I'm trying to remember, but like, yeah, two hours, roughly two hours and 45 minutes.

Yeah, that means we're going to OKC, um, Cavaliers, uh, finals. Yeah. Cats is a vibe. These are direct. It was cool. They had a nice little bowling alley over there. It's cool.

It's cool. Yeah, I took my boys up one year. It was great. Yeah, no, that's a, no, listen. If you're, if you're, all jokes aside, right? Like, I, I got Donovan. I got, I got, I got, I got, I still have some of those ancillary pieces around the edges. And Janus, yeah, dude, I'm in there.

Like, we're doing that. we're doing that. Evan, Evan Mobley's a really nice player. Like, I don't, is it fair to say. I think he is who he is at this point, bro. Yeah, he's like this, the, the, the, the, the reach to what he, what people thought he might be offensively. He hasn't gotten there as of yet. Like, I'm not going to say he absolutely can't, but I, you know, it's, it's been a minute.

I'm, like, you're putting, you're plugging Janus into that. Yeah, I mean, the Darius Garland part, like, he's been a big part of what they do. But, like, uh, yeah. I think I think we're safe with Janice. Yeah. All right. Let's go to Dallas. Yeah.

They call up the Milwaukee Bucks and say, yo, who's going to give you 80 straight up? We'll give you this year's pick. We don't have much else to give you beyond that. We don't have any picks after this year. But we're going to give you that. What do you think of this offer? The Bucks are like, yeah, cool. That's cool.

And the Mavs are like, huh? You sure? All right, cool. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. Let's go. Yeah. The math is like, oh, wait, you said yes? Wait, we're not usually on this end of, we're not on this end. Oh, my God. We're not on this end of this deal usually. We're putting Janus with Cooper Flagg. Yeah. Yeah. How, I mean, I love it. How quickly, um, yeah, I don't have the answer for that.

Like, I still think that's too, I think that's, I think you're too away from that. because I think we're assuming Kyrie's coming back healthy at some point next year, right? Yes. Is that what we're under the assumption that he's, yeah? So I'm going to say no to that first year of Kyrie being back. Yeah, he has to figure stuff out. What is me?

Right? Coup's second year. Coup's third year, Kyrie fully healthy. Yeah, man. I could see you guys being right in the mix, right, in the mix. Yeah. So for that reason, I would say, what is that?

Two to three. Two to three? Okay. Yeah. All right. We've got to start cooking with Greece right now. All right. The Denver Nuggets.

They call up. They call them Milwaukee. It's like, yo, we're going to give you Aaron Gordon, K.M. Joss and Jonas Valichutis next three first round picks. I think that'll, you like that. Milwaukee's like, sure, we'll take it on. Denver's like, bet. Let's go.

Yeah. We got Yokin Janus and Janus. And, and Jamal Murray. And we didn't even give up Jamal Murray. We didn't give up Jamal Murray. And we kind of, this is favorable trades for the team

that is making the trade, guys. I'm sure we're going to be everybody to come. It's like, oh, my God. No, this is just favorable for every, the team that's getting it, getting yon. So, so here's the deal with, with, yeah, I mean, obviously you told me I could have, like, I don't,

if you told me I could have, Janice and and Yokic, I would, people are going to fall over themselves. Weirdly, I don't know how, I mean, I guess, I guess, like, yeah, give me, give me all of that. Like, let's go. That's a bad, that's a good problem to have. Give me that. Yeah, just give me that. We'll figure that out.

Like, and, and the answer to that is they're already right there. So that's not, it will change. The way it looks has to change, but like, we're good. I have faith in that. You're still right in the mix. with that. I would just say to that, stylistically, the way they play, you know, you're integrating a piece now that

that disrupts that more than any of the pieces that are going out. Like, traditionally, they have always built around that, that Murray-Yokic relationship and the way they play off of each other. And you're incorporating something now that, like, clearly you can't ask to, like, stand around and play off of that. Who would have to sacrifice them? most weirdly yonness yeah yeah but but i yeah the most probably honest uh but maybe for the betterment of the team if yokech if if if if if yokech and i don't have any

reason to believe he wouldn't do this became more of a facilitator and didn't have to score the ball as much because now you have like a bona fide bucket in yonis too like i think yonis would eat off of Yokic. I'd have to see how that looked on the floor together and stuff like that. But like that would just be the pushback, right? It's like, hey, bro, like, how does he fit into what you guys normally do? How are you going to get all? That's a lot of ball.

That's a lot of I need the ball. Wow. Yeah. Yokin's average an 18 assist. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, but like something crazy like that, like if he was, if he was ready to take a step into just pure passer, he's still going to score.

He's so good. Like, yeah, that's tough. Here's, like, as I go through this, every team you say to me, you know, would they take the deal, the good ones? And then you're, you know, on the flip side, the Milwaukee of it all.

It's just crazy that I'm feeling like, if I'm Milwaukee, all of these are good for me. As much as I love Janus, and I am a Janus fan. But, like, at this point, I'm like, yeah, man, give me that. Give me the picks. Let me get my picks back.

Yeah. Let me get some. We're like it's like like like Dallas would never happen because they don't have no picks. Yeah. You know what I mean? We're making jokes. But yeah, for the grand majority who have picks, yeah, we just have to replenish right now. You know, like it doesn't necessarily mean like how we don't have.

If I'm the bucks, I don't care about being good next year. Doesn't matter. Yeah. You know, it'll be nice. Yeah. But like I don't, we're rebuilding. And it's no reflection of the way we feel about yonness. This is just where we are.

Like we give me the picks. They crapped out, bro, trying to build a contend, around yonis. But let's go to Detroit Basketball. All right. We're going to give, hey, yo, Trayson Langdon's like, yo, Jalen Duren, Isaiah Stewart, Duncan Robinson, next three, next three first round picks. It's all yours. Milwaukee's like, okay, cool. For sure. Doreen, Duncan Robinson, Isaiah Stewart. Isaiah Stewart. here's where I'm not, this is where I'm not good. This is why I'm probably sitting here doing this instead of in a front office. Like the picks, when you say the picks to me,

as I'm making the determination of like what kind of team this is going to be, the picks never even come into like, they don't even register in my mind like the future of what the franchise looks like minus these picks. That's never even a contemplation of mine. I'm not even thinking about that. On the court, they become immediately,

um, again, flight time from Detroit. to Milwaukee and car ride. Yeah. By the way, the Pistons are already 34 and 12 right now. That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, a lot, yes, yes. We'll do that. What would most excite you about Yonis on the Pistons? Which part of that would most excite you? Is it the pick and roll with Cade? Was it the, what is it that? But yeah, the pick and roll with Cade would be crazy. But like, what really excites me the most is knowing and having played in Detroit a lot and what

that city is about and what they and what they uh you know what they cheer for like fundamentally the style of play like you know you you you the Detroit basketball yonis is that in a nutshell the way he plays like there's no there's no real prima donna in him and not calling anyone necessarily a prima don't but like right there's no everything he does is onyx-ish as a music type, right? Like, it is coming downhill, I've told you this. I've told you this story. I've told this story on the podcast early in our podcasting journey. What I like to do when I'm bored, not as much time now because I don't have as much

time to be bored now. But when I was bored, what I would do is I would watch Janus highlights, put the mute on the Janus highlights, and play onics behind it. And it synchronized perfectly. But you know, you got to have baby face. Right. You got to have Big Sean. You got to do all that. You got to do that if he's going to Detroit, right? You got to play some, I don't know. Don't trick, sure it got a new mixtap or something like that. You got to. I don't know any of the people you're referring to. Okay. Okay. All right. We got, that's just kind of what has to be. A lot of furs, a lot of cardio glasses, you know, you got to just, you know, need of the energy. That would be fun.

That would be fun. Let's go to the Bay Area, Golden State. It's so funny right now, Raja, because Golden State is flooding the zone right. now leaking to everybody, hey, we're going to give you all our picks. Please, Milwaukee, trade to us by the deadline. Please, please, we're begging you. You can just tell right now. Everybody is just saying, Golda Se has the best package to give right now, which in theory is true right now.

But let's just pump the brakes and relax. Like, I don't think it, I'm going to bounce this off you, Rajah, because, you know, you've been in the league for a long time. it would feel like if I'm the Milwaukee Bucks at this point, even though Golden State has a really compelling offer that they can give you, right, the next four first round picks, you know, Jimmy Butler expiring, that's, you know, maybe give you comminga or something like that, right?

And maybe pods, we'll see. They do have a compelling one with the picks because they have all their own picks. But if you're Milwaukee, wouldn't it behoove you to just wait until the draft. Because that Golden State offer is going to always be there. What is it behoove you to wait when all of the packages are right in front of you? When you can kind of just instead of getting rushed into a deal? Well, how significant would Kaminga moving before the draft be to what Golden State had in the coffers to offer to Milwaukee? Well, they have you have a Kamiga on a team option next year for like $27 million.

Yeah, but I mean like, so you're assuming he does not get moved before the draft. I think, I mean, if this is the thing, though, I think Janus put a wrench in everybody's plans right now because like they hold it on to Kaminga right now. If he could flip him for Janus, right? Any other trade, it's like kind of, you know, in void. So I think that's a wrenching tool. More what I'm saying is like we just talked about Atlanta. And Atlanta has a pick that is pretty much predicated on this lottery. where like, you know, we want to see what you get first.

If you get the number one pick of the draft, Milwaukee's like, oh, this is a different conversation. Sure. As opposed to. Well, go. Well, yeah. I would just say it will behoove them to wait right now. So I kind of just want to push back on the notion like, go to say it's the best option. They're going to get them.

And it's like, hey, man, Milwaukee is attempting to trade a foundational piece. They want to get as much as they can. And they want to do what Dallas didn't do. which is start a bidding war. Yeah. Right? Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's the right way to approach that. I would agree with that.

Anyways, but for the purposes of this exercise, the Golden State Warriors are like, hey, man, Jimmy Butler has expired contract matches up pretty well. Maybe we could throw somebody in the deal. But it's centered around Jimmy Butler and our next four draft picks. What's good? It's February, it's February 6th. What's good?

You ready? The Milwaukee's like, yeah, forget all those other, Forget all those other trade options later down in line. We're going to do this with Golden State. This seems like the best thing. How long does it take for them to become a contender? They still kept Jarmond. They still kept Steader.

Caminga's still in the roster. They told Kamiga, hey, man, you want to be part of this? Because we could flip you in the summer, too, because we still got you on the roster. Yep. One year. One year. One year. One year.

And do you trust the front office to be able to build a contender around? I do. And I trust Steve Kerr staying in place to figure out what that needs to look like offensively as I incorporate a piece like, like, Yonis. So yeah, one year. Maybe. One year? Yeah, one year. Now, some of those teams I hedged and I was like two to three years.

Like, I would say a year. in that second year they'd be ready to go, but wouldn't be surprised if because of how good those two are, they figured it out quicker than that. I think if Golden State is going to pull this off, they have to do it, I think, by the trade deadline, just for all the reasons why I just told you. So with that being said,

Yannis is still out four to six weeks with a calf injury. What would this season look like and what would be a success for this season if they pulled off the trade for Yannis going into the playoffs, Golden State. Let me see. Golden State. Sorry, I'm looking right now.

27 and 22. Sitting at 8th. They're able to get him back. He's still out four to six weeks, you said? Yeah, he's out four to six weeks with a calf, which honestly, it's a calf injury, so it can be, it's really delicate.

It could be two-bots. Yeah, for sure. I think, you know, for them, we're in the playoffs. I don't think we got to make the Western Conference finals this year. I think we could be, you know, for it to be a success. Like I think win in a playoff series, competing tooth and nail for another one.

Maybe we were a few pieces short just because we don't have ideally what we need to have. I think that's a successful, you know, start to that relationship. I will tell you the discourse here in the Bay Area is crazy. It's been a sight to behold. Everybody's just breaking their neck, trying to get every breadcrum. Is he going to come? Is he going to come? And then this depression sets.

It's just, it's been a lot, man. I think the baby has a hug right now. With this Janus News and the fact that the Seahawks are about to play in a night of stadium, it could win a Super Bowl there. It's just a lot of emotion right now. Another, another intriguing possibility, which is actually in play as well, along with Golden State. The Houston Rockets, Houston gets on the phone.

They say, hey, man, we're going to give you Reed Shepard, Shepard, Shangoon and Jabari Smith. We're going to give you these picks. this Phoenix 2027 first rounder and this 2029 and then we got a pick swap for 2027.

We're going to like it. And the Milwaukee says, yeah, I guess we will like that. Let's do it. We don't need M. Thompson at all. It's fine. Go ahead. It's so...

Yannis. Yeah, go ahead. And I'm in Thompson. Yeah. Fred Van Vleek coming back off of an injury next year. I like it. Here's the deal.

It meant Thompson, not a natural. fit with Janus. No. Not a natural skill set fit with Janus. From a defensive length, athleticism, you're talking about three of the rangeier dudes in the NBA, although KD, no disrespect, probably not the defender that he was four or five years ago.

But like, we're still talking about a lot of length and range out there. Yeah, I like it. Two years. Two years? Two years. And I trust their front office to be able to do it. Yeah, maybe a year. Like I want to, I want to, maybe a year.

You need some, you need some real shooting. Yeah, that point guard. What was, what was, preferably wasn't an Achilles. Was it? Was it ACL? What was his? ACL. He was training camp?

He's trying to come back next year. He's trying to come back this year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you give me a floor general. You give me Janus, K.D. Amen.

Yeah. A year to two years. I think, I think, I think a little faster. I think they're great. next year because also Katie isn't getting any younger. But also he can like kind of step back a little bit because you have Yonis that can take on the bulk of the offensive responsibilities, right? And then, you know, let Katie lay in the weeds and then get into his bag, the clutch.

Yeah, you might be right. Like you could sway me on that. Like I could go a year. I love it. I love it. So yeah, I'll go a year with you. You're probably right. Yeah.

I'd imagine that Houston is in the summertime contingency just because their picks are going to, you know, similar to Atlanta, their picks are going to come into four. after the lottery and then you kind of have a better idea of what you're going to be. But Houston is right in the mix. And they probably will have to trade out men to get the deal done. But hey. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's Janice. I don't, this is probably not fair. And it's just where my head goes. Whenever you say, like, when you say con caniple and Janus, like, the skills, the, the complementary potential of the skill sets makes sense. the reason I feel that way about Steph and like Janus, right? Like the, the complementary skill sets. And then, you know, you say, well, Draymond doesn't shoot it, but Draymond plays point, basically. You know what I mean? So, like, he's orchestrating. Like, the, the, I'm still going to, I'm still going to tell you they figure it out. But, you know, a man in the style he plays

is, is all in and around the rim. It's, it's, it's, that's where it is. It's all. And it's, it's, it's, it's, I love it. Like, it's cool to watch. It's, it's hard to deal with. He cuts. He finishes. He's, he's, he's crafty, but like that's where Yonis is going to be too. So, so that one, but like, I'm going to go with you in a year. I think they figured out. You put KD. Yonis, give me a PG. We'll figure it out. Yeah. Houston is seems like a playmaker away right now. I mean, they need another front court guy, why something against the Spurs. They got a lot of questions right now, especially with Stephen Adams's injury. Um, they should really look at trading for yonis at this point and where they are right now they have the pieces to be able to do it we'll

see um the indiana pacer's hey Milwaukee don't give you Aaron wait wait wait don't hang up don't hang up don't hang up don't hang up yes Aaron knee Smith Pascal Siakum and our next three first round picks what do you think wait you want to do this deal okay bet we'll sit in a sprinter yeah how long will it take for them to be a contender. The rest of Yon. Then don't say the rest of Yonis' this career.

And how much confidence do you have that they can be a contender? You still got Hallie on the roster. Coming off an Achilles. Got Hallie on the roster coming off the Achilles. Two years? Two years, huh? Two years to three.

Hallie, very, very, very complimentary with a lot of pieces that you put him with just because of his style and what he wants to do with the ball, which is pass it first. So he's going to fit with a lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say two years.

Not to say I have zero confidence because they have Rick Carl out of the great front office there. I think you just need a little bit more. I think in order to compete with the bosses of the world, because we just talked about Boston next year. Yeah. The sixers of the world, I think they need about three or four years. Yeah, I don't, I disagree with that. I think obviously it's not competing right away, but, you know, you could flip into some. things that are that are that are really complimentary within a couple years you know and i think

within a couple years provided those aren't like young rooks like you could wind up with the hallie uh uh janis um maybe you could maybe you keep them hard like you could have tj still there as backup like you you keep them hard and and or matherin or have to get off of one or the other of them and bring in another piece something like i think they're i think you're i think there's a framework and they were just there. Yeah, it's fair. All right. The Clippers, they just say, hey, man, we got got nothing for you.

Thanks for taking our call. Goodbye. Click. The Lakers. Yo, LeBron straight up. What do you think? LeBron said he'll wave his traycloths. Because he just wanted to get out of here.

He hates it so much. And it will give you our 2031 pick. Yeah. We're looking at Lakers. with Janice, Reeves, and Luca. Yeah, again, that's going to be a 30, that's going to be like,

traffic in LA is terrible, so we're talking probably probably an hour and a half from the airport, like six hours. Once he gets in. Yeah, it could be, dependent on what time you hit that highway, whatever time he gets in.

Factor traffic into that. And that's what we're dealing. You give me Janus, Luca, and, anyone else. I'm figuring it out. Yeah, we're good. We're going to work that out.

LeBron's really going to enjoy Milwaukee. The schnitzel's fantastic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go to the Grizzlies. John Morant, Jalen Wales, Brandon Clark. Next two draft picks, next two first round picks, including the pick swap with Orlando. Get it done.

Put Janice with Jaron Jackson, Jr. Yeah, I like those two. Like I, you're, you're still not, you're three to four years away. Two to four, is that fair? Like, I don't know. What else you got? Like that in and of itself, those two in and of themselves, like, I like them. But I'm not putting you in the conversation for a while.

You got a lot of work to do. Yeah. I do trust the front office to be able to do it, though. They have a good front office there. Okay. Okay. We're going to take a flight. We're going to go to your backyard.

The Miami Heat. This is for my. I believe Yahoo Sports, this trade proposal. Give you Tyler Hero, Khalil Ware, Andrew Wiggins, two first round picks and three first round pick swaps for Ghanis. She have Bam out of bio. I got Norm.

I got Norm Powell, Bam on a bio. Yeah, I like them. I like them. Two years. Two years? You still got work to do, but like, I could see, I could see where you're going with that. And they're supported by a, like, a real, like a real weight-bearing beam and a backbone, if that makes sense.

Their culture there. And what, so, so, yeah, two years. Okay. And I trust the front office to be able to do that. It's where I'll go. They can build a team. Okay. Let's go to New Orleans.

Hey, we got Zion. What do you think? No. Okay. All right. Bye. No, I'm good. I'm good. By the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, did you see, there was a viral clip. Our boy, so Maddie Barnes, who I play with a shout-out. They were,

they were on, he was on with, he was on with Max. Did you see, did you see the clip, bro? Did you see the clip? We don't have to, we don't have to, we don't have to, we don't have to, we don't have to redo the clip, but I, no, we don't have to get into it. I saw the clip. Yeah, you saw the clip. Yeah, you saw the clip. But I mean, it's not necessarily about the clip as much as it's about like my affinity for Max, who was one of my favorite guests that we've ever had on a pod. Like he's, that's including with Tim Duncan. He is probably the best one, including the uncut stuff that we had. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For different reason, obviously. But like, yeah, dude, like he was, he was great. So maybe, it may be giggle. Minnesota Timberwolves. Minnesota is apparently in the mix as well for Janus.

reportedly Yannis is intrigued by the idea of playing with aunt because who wouldn't? I looked at this in The Athletic. This is a proposal from the athletic. The Bucks receive Julius Randall and Nasri. They also get a couple first round picks from Portland. Just picks, you don't really care about this stuff. Minnesota gets Janice and Drew Holiday. And Portland receives Jaina McDaniels and Mike Conley.

So what do you think about that? Yes. You don't have Nazaree, you don't have Julius Randall. You have Yannis and you have Ant. Similar to like Luca and Yannis. You just... And Rudy? And Rudy.

Jesus. Yeah. Ooh. Cooking with Greece. How long would it take for them to be a contender? They're already contender. They're already contender. Yeah.

Yeah. We're good. And I got Drew, too? No, no. Drew was, uh, Drew was, uh, oh yeah, no, you get Drew Holiday. Yeah, exactly. I got Drew and Yonis? Yep. Yep. Come in? Yeah, right now, right now. Right now. Okay. You think they'll go to the, that will go to the finals.

I think you have a legitimate, I mean, I'm not penciling that in, but I think you have a legitimate shot to go to finals. Yeah, because you still got, I mean, you gave up those two, but you got Dante DiVenzo, you got McDaniel, you still kept all that? Yep. Yeah. Respect. Um, this is also from Yahoo. Who? We're going to go to the New York Knicks. O'Jan and Obie and Josh Hart for Janice, I did a cumbo. Then they, I don't know, they don't really have much else to give, probably Kat to as well. I don't think the Knicks are in play because Janus wants to go there, but they don't really have a great trade package unless they get a third team.

Yeah. Anyway, Janus is the Knicks. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, I like Yon. How long it's going to take for them to be a contender? But it's going to take a little longer, though, right? If I have to give up, if I got to give an OG, if I got to get an OG heart and cat.

There's other trade proposals that are giving up, uh, McKill Bridges as well. Like you're gonna have to gut your team. You're gutting. Yeah, that's, you know, like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, there are a few years away then at that point, right? Because you've even with Brunson and, uh, and Janus.

Yeah, that's not enough. That's, this is, we're at a point in the league where that's not, like, that's not enough. You, it's a great start, but like, you have to have real, you know, You have to have real dudes. Like, the only equation in which I'm telling you, you could roll, like, the old me out there and play with those guys is when you had a three-headed monster

with Jalen, Jason Tatum, and Yannis. That's three MVP-level players. Like, if you're giving me two in this scenario, and then you've gutted, like, the real depth of my role players, I, yeah, I think we're a little bit away. Okay. For rest of this is Yahoo Sports. You guys are going to check it out.

They have fake trades for Yannis for all, 30 teams. This is for the rest of the ones, these trades are going to be from the island sports because I took a long time for me to prepare for this. And I just was like, oh, this is right here. So the Thunder, give it out Isaiah Hartenstein, Lou Dord, Kaysen Wallace, A.J. Mitchell, a plethora of picks that they have for Yonis. No, no, thank you.

So, O.C. should not go after Yannis in general. I'm saying no thank you to that. It started again. Hartenstein, what was it again? Case of Wallace. What? Lou Dort, Case of Wallace, AJ Mitchell. Yeah, probably.

I mean, we're going to do that. I thought I heard it's broke. I'm sorry. No, I thought I heard chatting. No, you're keeping the big three intact, brother. Yeah. Then yes. I mean.

And here's another thing. Here's another thing. If the Thunder flame out, like, they flame out early this postseason, and don't reach where they're supposed to reach? I mean, I think a pivot is in play here. You have to at least be saying it, right? No, yeah, for sure. I thought for some reason, I don't know,

I was speeding ahead and I thought I heard you say Chet, Hartenstein. And then in my mind, you were naming so many names that I thought your death. But you still got Jay Will, you still got, obviously, Shea, you got Chet, you got Caruso. Yeah, dude. I mean, they're saying it. That's immediate.

And you trust the front office, obviously, to get it done. Yeah. That might be the, I mean, that might go to number one on the list. Yeah. All right. Here, Orlando. Franz Wagner, Jonathan Isaac, Anthony Black, and a 2031 first, for Janice, Adda-Cumbo.

So basically, you're pairing Janus with Paolo. Yeah. Three to four. I'm a disappointed with Paolo, man. Yeah, this isn't a, like, this, for me, I'm going to let you have your thought. But for me, this isn't a Paulo, like, issue as much as, like, the two of them together, I don't see as being super complimentary. And I then don't, like, you've given up a lot.

It's not like you're right there knocking on the door now. I just, you have so much work to do. And then the last component there is the trust. Like, you're asking me if I trust them to get that done in his window? The answer is probably not. Yeah. All right. Let's go break.

Let's break Cliffs heart. Actually, no. Actually, no. So, hey, this is Logan's. This is Logan's deal. Hey. Logan Merrick of the Philipsil of the 76ers. Hey, Milwaukee.

Nice to talk to you. Hey, we're going to give you PG at a plethora of picks for Yadis. You good with that? Oh, okay, bet. Cool, cool, cool. I bet. You don't want VJ? No, no, you don't really need them.

Oh, okay, cool. We have, okay, so we have Yados with VJ. N's comb and Terrice Maxi on the roster. Wait, tell me the deal again, I'm sorry. Paul George. You did not say Joel and Bede? Joel and Bid is not even in the Yahoo deal. So, no, Joe Bede is, no, we did not give up Joel and Biafis.

Well, Georgia. Okay. Cool. Yeah, let's go. I mean, I'm good. I like cheese steaks. A year? A year.

I just, a year. That's a lot. I don't even think it takes that long. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Because I have said some have been just a few hours. But yeah, I think I would agree. Yeah.

Okay. I agree. Phoenix says, hey, man. The Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks. Ryan Dunn. And we don't have any draft picks to give you, but hey, we'll give you that. And then Milwaukee says, cool. All right, sounds good.

I mean, I think we could build a contender around Jalen Green. That sounds great. So now you have Devin Booker and Ghanesadetakumo. How long will take for them to be a contender? And do you trust their front office to be able to build one? Why do you have no draftics for the foreseeable future? Mark Williams. Yeah, I don't.

two years, I guess. Two years? You just want to go back to Sky Harbor in one piece, bro. It's not good. It's going to take. But I've got, but no, first of all, my picks, I'm not doing, look, again, I'm not doing math on cap and all that shit. So I don't know how much money is necessarily spent there.

But like that team with Devin Booker, you know, Grayson Allen, what's that, Mark Williams, Janice, who else is out there? I can't remember the whole damn roster. But, like, you have some pieces that have been helping them win games that are still there. What you're going to need to be like in that upper tier of the Western Conference is not going to be acquired via the draft. That's just going to be going out finding the right pieces in free agency to pair with them. And if I'm starting from Devin Booker and Janus, which I think is a skill set like match, I think they they on paper are going to work well

together. Yeah, I say two years, maybe a third, but like two years away. Now, You're asking me about my faith in whether they can get that done or not. Like, I don't really know. I don't know. Like, it's a new regime, right? Yeah, newish. And I think they've done a really good job. I do trust this front office.

I think they've done a really good job to build a team that isn't good, some sort of intention because they were supposed to be really bad this year. This was their first offseason, right? And they've done a tremendous job. Like, what are they, 27 and 19 or something right now? Yeah. Coach is really good, too. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think it's that crazy.

All right. Portland Trailblazers is from Yahoo. Jeremy Grant, Danny, Matisse Stuyvel, Scoot, and all of Milwaukee's picks and swaps from the Damian Lillard deal, I believe. What do you think? Yonis, it's basically Yonis by himself. So this is going to be, yeah. This is, we're like, this is like Brooklyn. Yeah, it's like Brooklyn.

It's going to, yeah. Yo, I'll say this. It's great for Milwaukee, but Milwaukee would be really scalleless to do this to y'allus. Send him back to, like, yeah, that'd be that. Center to Portland, like, yeah. They got to treat my dog right. They'll treat him right, though.

Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why it's the best deal for Milwaukee, but I don't know if they necessarily do that. I don't know. I don't know. Business is business. All business.

All right. You ready to laugh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Sacramento Kings. Oh, bro, stop. Come on, man. Go. What's the deal?

DeMontes, a bonus, Dennis Truder, a plethora of picks for Janus. Viannis, DeMarta Rosen, Zach Levine, Keegan Murray. I think we're, listen, for the sake of the pod and the people watching, have we not reached a point where, like, less is more now? Like, is this just for entertainment? Like, just to see people, like, see me spazz out? I don't want to do that. I like all of those guys. Some of them.

How long will it take, and do you trust the front office to make it happen? I don't know and no. I don't want to play this game anymore. I think I can't be any clearer than that. Oh, we got some, we got more intriguing ones.

Okay, I promise, I think. This is the last intriguing one. And then we'll just, we'll stop after this one. Because this is actually a, team that's in play. The San Antonio Spurs. Yeah. Stefan Castle, Devin Fasel, Harrison Barnes, Kelly O'Lennick,

Carter Bryant, Atlanta's first round pick, San Antonio's 29 first round pick, for Giannis, Kyle Kuzma, Amir coffee, and the NASIS identity, yeah, dude, we're there. We're, we're, we're, uh, yeah, I say it now. New Age Twin Towers, yeah. Yeah, I say now. One year maybe, but like you could, it could very easily be now. All right. Do I trust them? Yes.

Absolutely. Are you okay, Roger? No, I'm good. I'm good. I thought I was going to have to be like, look, my kids know, you know, at a certain time in the evening, once like I've been moving and shaken all day, if there's a level of, there's a level of question that you could come to me and potentially get the response of like, yo, my man, what are you doing?

Like, why are you out here? Right. And so they have been They have been conditioned To know where that line is So like past a certain hour They don't even come fuck with me About certain shit

It's not just your kids, Roger. No, it's it's everyone who knows you pretty well Yeah, like you're about yeah, okay, all right With that being said, I'm proud of you So I digress. No, but like Get Yeah, the Spurs for sure, dude

The Spurs are gonna be right there Like, come on, we're good. All right, I was spare you, bro. I was spare you. Give me one more. Just give me. me one more. Let me see what you were about to do, what you were about to do. Well, no, the next one I think is good. The final two are going to be wild, but the next one I think is good.

The Toronto Raptors. They say that Scotty Barnes is untouchable. The Raptors call and say Scotty Barnes is untouchable. But we'll give you Brandon Ingram and we'll give you any other player that'll make the deal work. You can choose. We'll give you a plethora of picks. Scotty Barnes and Yonisadenaed Akumbo on one team. Yeah, I like that. I do like that. Two years, three years, two, two? Yeah, too's fair.

But what is, yeah, what's the other thing I have to give up, though? You said to pick a player. Like, who are you picking? Who are you throwing in there? Brandon Ingram, Yacca Portal, to make the salaries go. You can give R.J. Barrett, maybe. Let's do it. I'd like to keep RJ.

I'd like to keep RJ. I'd like to keep RJ. Remember, this is an exercise where, like, the team training. just fleeces the bucks. So you're keeping RJ. So I'm keeping RJ and you gave me that, I tell you what I say, do? Did I say two?

Yeah, two years. Yeah. And two and two and the possibility of like, I don't think year one, but so two, I think safely two. Okay. I like that. They're a sneaky solid team.

We have the jazz and the wizards. Do you want to bother? That's no. Okay. I don't. All right. Let's get to a segment we like to call, um,

ruin of the week. We pick a person entity organization at one the week. Roger, go first. I'll go first. Um, yeah, real one of the week is going to go to Novak Djokovic.

Um, yeah, Novak was asked maybe a few days ago at the Australian Open. I saw he was asked, uh, about chasing, Yonix Sinner and Carlos Alcaraz at this point in his career.

And if that felt like the beginning of his career when he was chasing, I think it was Roger Federer and maybe Raphael Nadal. And Novak kind of snapped back. He got a little defensive, if you will, and was kind of like, hey, bro, like, we have to put this in context. There were 15 years in between that where,

where, like, I won a lot of tournaments. So, like, it's not that, you know, he got a little ruffled by the question. Right? Like he was a little perturbed by the question. But then he came out like in an epic match in the in the semis and and beat, he beat, uh, he beat, uh, sinner, right? Yeah, sinner. Uh, I watched it this morning. It was some great tennis. Um, he basically kind of just collapsed on the court and he was thanking everybody.

And it was pretty cool to see at this point in his career because he's still a remarkable tennis player. And he's just kind of like sliding on the back of. of that hill, but he's still high on the hill. And those other two dudes are just phenomenal younger talents. So it was cool to see him have a little redemption right after he had been asked that question, get the W over one of the two. And now he's in the finals. We're getting Alcoran.

We're getting Alcoraz Yokorahs, bro. You're going to Alcaraz Yokish, yes. Which hasn't really ended well that often for Yokich lately. But he just pulled one out of thin air this morning. So real one. Real one indeed. I'm going to give it to Shonda Rhymes. I watched, I started the new season of Bridgetton.

You know, Bridgetton Boys back in the building, no, we do it. Bridgetton boys were doing this before to Netflix. We was doing this before to Netflix. We was still rep, ah, ah, I, you know what I mean? He was out here. Shout out Jambi. That's what's up.

Joby! We spoke it in existence, ladies and gentlemen. But there hasn't been anyone that has, in the current season that is kind of purported themselves as the real ones just yet is very early in the season. So I just want to give it to Shonda. And as the season wears on and I watch it, I will be prepared to bring back my real ones. Rogers still needs to watch the first episode, so I will not spoil it here. But Shonda rhymes.

Yeah, much love Shonda. I'm halfway through the first episode, in fairness. I got to finish. For now. We'll see how long. I'm going to holl at you next week. All right. There has been another edition of Real Ones.

This was a very walky one. It was hilarious. It was all the things. Like our old school ones, it felt good. Are you okay? You survived it. You survived it. I did.

Yeah, I don't know what that was, man. I just, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. All right. All right. See y'all next week.

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