The Ringer NBA Show - Ep. 27: 'Sources Say' With Chris Ryan and Juliet Litman

Episode Date: August 12, 2016

The Ringer's Chris Ryan and Juliet Litman discuss Team USA's eventful summer in Rio and LeBron's back-to-back European travel schedule. Then, Tate Frazier joins to lament Kyrie Irving's inability to lose lately. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer NBA show. I'm Julia Lippman. I'm Chris Ryan. This is Sources Say. Yep. An NBA gossip podcast. It really flourishes in the summer. It does. And no more than this summer because Team USA is in Rio.

And Dream on Green's dick is on the internet. So here we are. That's what's been going on. Do you just say that so that you could check it off your bucket list of things to say, much like KD checked off seeing Christ the Redeemer on his bucket list? Yeah. You know, I think it's different kinds of bucket lists. I don't know.

Katie is specifically with the Wonders of the World. Yeah, I was going to ask this. I am not trying to, I don't doubt Kevin Durant's commitment to the Wonders of the World. And tourism. But do you think that he, like, was that really on his bucket list? I think it might have been, honestly. Because you know, like, a bucket list is the kind of thing you would go out of your way to go do. Right.

If you, before you die, you want to do it. Right. Like in the movie, the bucket list. Did he just write down the Wonders of the World and say, like, this is my bucket list? I don't know. He is a religious. What are the wonders of the world? Um, they're like the pyramids.

Is there an official one though? I think there's like Victoria Falls. Yes. It's the seven. So he, he made it the eighth. But like that's like an ongoing joke people make, but like this is the eighth wonder of the world.

Like, Dr. Mom Green's Dick, eighth Wonder of the World or something like that. Well, we all saw that. So yeah. Check that one off. I mean,

it's all right if I keep asking with, so is Leaning Tower of Pisa a Wonder in the World? Let me just tell you what the seven wonders of the world are, so we're all on the same page. There's a great pyramid in Egypt, hanging gardens of Babylon, statue of Zeus at Olympia, Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, mausoleum at Halicarnassus, Colossus of Rhodes, and Lighthouse of Alexandria. Those are the ancient ones.

And then there are like the ones that are not ancient that are like built by man. Okay. And so I think there's a bunch of those. Yeah. You don't have to list those. So many wonders of this world. Summer is a time for tourism and I'm curious. I think that Kevin Grant is religious.

He's a man of Christ. So it doesn't surprise me he wants. to go to that. They seemed psyched. That statue. The thing is, like, how many of, like, the 500 Olympians went up there, do you think? A lot. I saw the, because the video, because in the Snapchat or, like, in the Team USA pictures,

it looks like they've got, like, a private audience with Christo. Yeah. But there was quite a few people there. Team USA, wherever they're going, it's, like, private and luxury. That's one thing we know about them. Yeah. I watched a five-minute video of Draymond Green standing on the deck of the cruise ship for some, like, Chinese news service.

not a very exciting video. A lot of Draymond pointing. However, I did learn something fascinating. There's actually two cruise ships chartered for the team USA basketball. There's one for the players, and there's one for their family that they brought with them. Separate? Yeah, it's like docked right next to it. It's like the second boat.

It's for like women and children, like in the Titanic or whatever. Just kidding. It's for all their families. It's kind of weird, though. So like there's not just one, but it's just sort of like, I wonder what the accommodations are like for other people's family members. Well, speaking of the boat. Yes.

Speaking of the Olympics, the Team USA, the USS Team USA, which would be a bad name for a boat actually. USS Team USA times two is what you mean. They asked Coach K about like living on the boat. And his response was this. And I can't tell if I find this hilarious or like go go have a joint coach K. Just chill out. Well, we don't live on a boat. We're staying on a boat.

I actually live in Durham, North Carolina and have a swimming pool. Okay. Once in a while, I get on a raft and lie in there. But I've never really thought about living on a boat. Since 1992, the U.S. teams have stayed in different locations, and because of the accommodations here, that was good. And it's not our boat. We're not the only people on the boat.

There are other people on the boat that we see that we say good morning to. Hello. We've actually made friends on the boat. It definitely sounds like he has just arrived from another. planet when he's talking like this. I never knew I would have boat friends. In fact, now that I'm talking about it, I might go buy a boat. It's not very sensitive to the 1% 99% situation.

I'm on a boat. Yeah. And put it in my, I'd have to have a bigger swimming pool. It's a place to stay and we're here to play basketball. I guess he's kidding. I guess this is sort of he's busting this guy's chops. Is this like his coach pop impression or something? It must be.

That was very strange. First of all, cool brag that you've got a pool in Durham, New York Carolina. That was, like, really weird. I don't think Coach Kago is swimming, though. Like, it's hard for me to imagine that. Or something. Well, no, he doesn't. He lies on a raft in the pool.

The boat has, there's two things that are, like, really being focused on regarding Team USA. One is the boat, that we now know times two. And Carmelo Anthony, like Olympics, Carmelo is back. Yeah. Charks wrote about him for the ringer. Yeah. He was one of the main reasons why they were able to gut out that tight victory over Australia.

Delhi and Bogot didn't know that the playoffs were over. They were both like looking for blood out there. I asked this to Simmons yesterday. Would you rather have it be kids like, you know, whatever. It's under 23s, under 25s and games be contested? Or are you like, where's your head out with like Team USA supremacy? This team USA hasn't looked that good. So it hasn't been that fun.

I would rather see a team that like practices together for more than two weeks every four years, basically. You know? Like that's one of the reasons they've looked so bad, right? Like they're all really good, but it's not like they're used to playing with each other. Yeah, I mean, I don't really think they're a beatable team, but I don't think they're that exciting if a team is like, yeah. It's not really fun. Like they don't have like a flow to them very much.

Yeah. Also, Draymond and Clay looked like trash. They've been playing really bad. Drayman hasn't even played that much. I mean, he played a little bit towards the end. I think he kind of unlocked it. And also, uh, Bougie was in foul trouble. Yeah.

Well, Bougie's been in foul trouble a whole time. I think that Bougie is kind of not coming off great in these Olympics. He's coming off fine as like a person and everything. but this is a shot for him to kind of be like, I am the best big man in basketball. Yeah. And he just looks like he can't control his hands. Yeah.

And he just seems out of control in general. Yeah. My favorite thing about him at the Olympics right now, though, is he has like a trash talk thing going on with Britney Griner, which I think is pretty funny. Yes, that's very funny. I like, I enjoy that one. They have a fun relationship.

He's also like, he's the real, he's the one who should be apologizing to Vanessa Carlton, not Carmel and Anthony because he's the one who doesn't want to be on Snapchat. Don't snap me. He also, he seems like he's the guy who, like, when they're doing a group pick, he like breaks it up with like a, hey, like he's, he has like kind of the class clown vibe. The other thing that I'm just really struck by, and we wrote about this a little bit on The Ringer, is the friendship of Kevin Grant and DeAndre Jordan. They were like

paling it up together at Michael Phelps's race. That's right. And they just seem really tight. I don't know why that surprises me so much, but it does. I was glad they went to the swimming. Me too. Because they have a lot to live up to with London. They really do. In terms of hanging out at the swimming. It was a lot more crowded. Rio it seemed like I felt like when they were watching in London they had like a lot more like space around them yeah yeah I well the swimming looks like it's been one of the better attended events yeah are you enjoying watching the Olympics in general uh well not in the sense that I watch it in primetime but I have enjoyed Olympic events like I really have enjoyed the swimming a lot

and I'm looking forward to track yeah basketball's been fine sure the other like the other like main storyline for me is the best friendship of Kyle Lowry and demard de Rosen it's too bad that their best friendship has not translated to great basketball. No. De Marder Rosen's birthday was this week and Kyle Lauer got like a really emotional Instagram about him. Did you see it? I didn't. Is that why they went to a spa to celebrate Demore Rosen's birthday?

Yeah, they went to get their nails done and get massages at a spa. Just kidding. They went to a brothel. Here's the thing about quote unquote spas in Brazil. And correct me if I'm wrong. It might have been in Argentina. but Justin Bieber had his own like brothel scandal in South America. I can't correct you.

I don't know. I think that was in Buenos Aires actually. But like this is like a phenomenon, you know, like celebrity is going to. Calvin Harris had that happened to him in California. Yeah. It's just like it's fine. Call us Bay to Spade. Don't pretend you to know where you were going.

It's not like Team USA and it ever goes anywhere at a company. It's not like they could just be like, hey, we're going to go. That was sort of the weirdest part about it. It's like it's almost why I believe them, but I don't. But it's almost why because it was just like you just got to Rio. Did you really think no one was going to notice you guys going into this place? Right. And do you think they can ever just like slip off?

Like don't you think that some official knows where they are at all times? I don't know about that. I think it's probably like very highly managed, particularly in Rio. I see, I think that they're big enough stars that they're just like, I don't need a handler. Maybe they have like a social coordinator is like, we're going to the statue today. Right. Or we're going to get massages tonight. You guys bring your neck pillow.

Oh my gosh. bring a change of clothes Casey gets hot in there It's just so ridiculous It's fine Just do what you guys want to do Whatever it's it's you know We're gonna say it's a free country?

It's a free country but actually it's Brazil It's not America so Brazil's also a free country Sure yeah I mean you know relax before you break game I get it fine Fine what that was just so Silly way of covering for them What's the point? I don't know

I mean I think it was a I think it was a But I think it was because actually, I think it was the best timed brothel visit, alleged brothel visit. Alleged brothel visit. Because if it had happened before or after the Australia game, I think it would have been a little bit bigger of a scandal. Yeah, I think so too. But having it happened before they even played a game and then they went out like one by 50 or whenever it happened, it was like not. Yeah, it was just kind of like, oh, these guys accidentally walked into the wrong place, but then they like got their shit together. Well, you know what?

It's not like they don't do, they don't go to spas in America. they just don't usually have cameras catching them. It's just different. So this kind of reminds me of when, I forget what team it was, went to the casino in Detroit after losing. Oh, yeah. The cabs. It was the cabs.

And it's like, yeah, they go out all the time. They just don't usually get caught, you know? Right. But like, it's, this is a commentary on our surveillance state. Oh, wow, Mr. Robot. I'm just saying, I mean, like pretty soon you're going to have to open a spa up in your own house. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. Maybe build a compound with a spa on the premises. I'm surprised LeBron hasn't done that yet, to be honest. He brings everything to himself. Let's talk

about LeBron. He's like a lot more interesting. Okay, but we're talking about actual spas of LeBron, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure he has like a masseuse that comes. Yeah. That guy Mike, right? Yeah. The his trainer dude. Yeah, the one who does like the incredibly like like muscle stuff where you're just like he's like standing on LeBron's head basically. Yeah. So LeBron opted out of this Olympics. Fair enough. He's done, he was at a 08 and 12. Was he we didn't know for as well? Yeah.

So fine, you're done. We get it. That's cool. You also just won the championship. Relax. Take a break. Maybe don't fly. Just stay at home, right?

Yeah, that's what I would do. Just chill at my very nice home with all of my Kia cars. But no, if you're LeBron, apparently what you do is you go to the Mediterranean for a yacht vacation twice in one summer. Is that, would you be able to, like in your dreams, you have often talked about wanting to be, to project Santropay. to go. Yes. You've often talked about wanting to go to the Mediterranean. Santerrapan in the Mediterranean? It is. Fantastic. Off the coast of French Riviera. Would you ever go to the Mediterranean twice in one summer? If I was a baller, I would. Yeah. Although I guess if I'm doing the yacht life, I might want to explore like the Indian Ocean too. Really? Yeah. That's where all the boats get

lost though. That's like in all his loss. Like for pirates and stuff? Robert Redford. No, but it's just like. But okay, here's my here's my list of islands I would like to go to Mauritius. The Seychelles. And then I guess I would go back to the Mediterranean. But like if I was doing one trip with my close friends and we were going to like a Biza or whatever, I'd probably do a second trip. That's a little, a little bit nicer. So maybe like one like club trip and then one Italian. Yeah, like Bora Bora kind of situation.

That's really, they had a great Bachelor finale there. And ever since I've been interested. So LeBron went in around free agency early July with the wades, the Paul's, the Mananaboot. The Anthony's and the Jameses. I actually know someone who saw them at a club in Ibiza when they docked one night, which is pretty cool. Did you say that they seem to be, or did she say that they were having a good time? Yeah, didn't like they're having fun. Great.

And so then he came back to America, I think, for a short, for the SBs, basically. And then he went back to Europe. And right now he's with his family. I don't think the kids got the invite. He's actually back in the U.S. now because he signed his contract, which we'll get two in a second. But he was with Savannah, his wife, and Josh Cranky. Really? Yeah.

And like some other people just like on the yacht. Josh Cranky, the Denver Nuggets owner. Weird. Would you do that twice and one summer? If I could afford it, sure. Here's my summer. Okay. One beach run wherever it is.

I think North Carolina is lovely. Okay. Duck. The Cape, Martha's Vineyard, whatever. I've never been to the Martha's Vineyard, but it sounds nice. Okay. And then I do one New England mountains, like lake vibe thing. Like the White Mountains or the Green Mountains?

Yeah. Maine go to Vermont, cool off, escape from August, go to my writer's compound, work on my... You think LeBron's going to the McDowell colony? Work on my novel? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That reminds me. Yeah, LeBron didn't get the invite for golf on Martha's Vineyard, but he did, so he probably was like, fuck that. I'm just going back to Europe.

Do you think he regrets not going to the Olympics, though? No, not at all. I don't. What, like... Different generation of guys. It really is. It's like, it's a new class. There's not really like a fun.

one leader in this group. Well, if there's the person who I think has had the best last three months of a basketball player, aside from LeBron James for like completing the hero's journey. And for having two vacations than that. It's Kyrie. Yeah, let's talk about Kyrie at first. Let's talk about Casper. You know the mattress company?

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among, like under the watchful eye of a salesperson. It's the price. Yes. Come on. Come on, man. Mattresses can cost over $1,500. That's crazy. But Casper mattresses cost $500 for a $200 for a two-suitary.

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That's kind of a disturbing stat. I think Kobe should get a Casper. He's like probably really committed to his good sleeping habit. The Casper is a successfully engineered mattress at a shockingly fair price. It combines springy latex and supportive memory foams to create an award-winning sleep surface with just the right sink, just the right bounce. Time magazine. They named it one of the best inventions of 2015. You get free shipping and returns to USA and Canada. You try Casper for 100 nights risk-free in your home. And if you don't love it, they'll pick it up and refund you everything. It is made in America. get $50 towards any mattress purchase by visiting www.carsper.com slash MBA and use the offer code NBA. Terms and conditions apply. Okay. Let's bring Tate in for a second.

Tate's got a lot to say about Kairie. Right, Tate? I don't think I have a lot to say. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What are you doing here then? Every day in the office, you want to talk about Kairi Irving. This morning you came in like sad Charlie Brown wanting to talk about Kyrie Irving

So don't pretend you don't have a lot to say I walked in the office and I said to you Because party next door Dropped an album That is Kyrie Irvin's enemy Kyrie Irvin wants to be an R&B singer An R&B sensation Yes

Are you sure? Yes How do you know that? He sings all the time I'm not sure he's like vocalized that to the world But he sings all the time On his Snapchat he does all the B covers all the time He sings all the time

That's like his thing So he's a theater kid's what you're saying. Yeah, exactly. And Party Next Door is that. But he's like OVO, got his big album dropping this week. And I'm thinking to myself, please let this be good. You know, we need Kyrie to lose. Wait, but it's, but it's a party next door record is not like discracks about Kyrie.

No, but like. A win for Party Next Door is an L for. Because they had like something with like a girl. Yeah. It's like if Michigan, you know, signs a bigger crew like Ohio State is not like a big L, but it's like sort of a, you know, you take a chalk up an L. Sure. Sort of similar situation. So I listened to Party Next Door's album last night because I wanted to make sure that it was a success

and that Kyrie would have to hear his teammates talk about how great it was and how, you know, party next door is better than Kyrie. So I was hoping the conversation would lead to. I just want to put this in perspective. The Kyrie Irving just won the NBA championship. Yes. And is currently on the path to winning an Olympic gold medal. Yes.

And you think that like a party next door album is going to somehow take him off his pedestal. What I'm saying is that he needed one L because everything that was. was wrong about his life. That was going wrong and spiraling down has all been, you know, fixed. He went from being like not a good point card to, like, LeBron. He's not going to win with LeBron. Then he wins a ship, hits the big shot. Now he's like probably the most reliable player on Team USA in a certain extent.

Or yesterday or two days ago against Australia, we were seeing some Kyrie Hero Ball. And we needed it. And he hit a huge three. It was 26 of the 28 points in the fourth quarter. I think Kyrie was like a part of the 26, 28 with him in Mello. It was nuts. It's a very impressive stat. So I need him to take an L.

You've got to take him down a notch. But you need him only because of Duke. No, I mean, just, I just, I think everyone needs to be humbled in life, you know? I think everything's going too well. So I wanted this album to be like, Kyrie just to check himself, recheck himself, get back in the zone, be like, you know what, P&D is still dropping fire. But it was. Flipside. Yeah.

Is our partner store Canadian? Yeah. Okay. Is that a person or a band? It's a person, right? It's a person that writes, he writes all Drake's like Moody. songs basically. Counterpoint. Yeah. Maybe is party next door a Canadian

plot to destroy Team USA? Ooh. And are you being sucked into a propaganda war where like Team Canada with their growing basketball foundation of Andrew Wiggins, etc., are coming for our crown and it starts with party next door's R&B and you're falling victim to it and already I'm seeing

stories where Kyrie's like, man, I was thinking about playing for Australia. Yeah. So it's like he's already like wobbling in terms of his commitment to the flag. Yeah. And now you're like, you know, it's great. Is this Canadian R&B who's going to take Kyrie Irving down the only reliable team USA player?

But the party next door blew it, is what I'm saying. Like that was what was setting up to be. You blew it, Canada! You had one job! Like, this was the moment, and he just completely dropped the ball. Do you think that Drake is anti-Kyrieg, because he's aligned with party next door? And Kentucky. And Kentucky.

Yeah, I mean, those are two big things that, yeah. Yeah, and he is Golden State running practice at his house. Yeah, he's definitely anti-Kyrie and anti-Cleveland. I don't think Drake has any, I don't think Drake dislikes any teams. Yeah, I think Drake is just pro-Torona. He's just, who is everybody's in the room with? Drake is a pre-internet sports fan where you could just be like, I'm into the Yankees and the Red Sox. Like, I know that most, there was very rarely that happened.

Or like Yankees-Lakers, Lakers, and I like the-Colboys Lakers, Yankees. And people would be like that. I knew so many kids like that, especially in college. That's unacceptable. If a kid didn't have like an NFL team, they would just be into, like, if any kid came from like Iowa, they'd be like, I like the Cowboys, Lakers and Yankees. Every NBA player is just into the Cowboys. Right.

But that's unacceptable to you. Prime time. I think that because the internet has gotten to amplify our regionalism, like you can be like, I will write a piece about this local team basically. And everybody talks about their local teams all the time. It's not acceptable. It's not acceptable to me to meet someone Tate's age and have them be like, I'm into the Lakers.

Right. unacceptable. Yeah. I agree. Those are the Kyrie kids of the world, though. Speaking of Kyrie and the Lakers, another, like, just mind-blowing thing happened for me and Kyrie this week, which is he posted an TBT Instagram of him, Miles Teller, with Miles Teller having the blonde hair and said TBT dot-whiplash.

I have lots of questions about that. Okay, I do too, and then I work through them. No, I want to hear yours. I think I can answer a lot of your questions. Okay, is that Miles Teller? Yes. He has blonde hair for a role. Yes.

For what role? I think he's playing a forest fire firefighter. So smoke jumpers, but with Miles Teller. Yes. Sounds like terrible idea. Sounds awesome. I'm pretty excited. The dude to directed Tron is directing.

Oh, okay. Josh Trank? No. No, Joseph Kaczynski. Oh, and also featuring Taylor Ketch. Wow. That's such a bunch of hitters right there. Yeah, like those are three people that like people on the internet care about.

Can I tell you something? Yeah. There's no more perfect union of actor and basketball player than Miles Teller and Kyrie Irving. You think so? Because they've both had taken their lumps. So like the first half of the season and some of last season was like Kyrie Irving's Fantastic Four period.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Kyrie Irving came out and when he was first playing well with Cleveland, you know, maybe even like towards like his younger part of his career, that's his whiplash, right? Where it's like he's real. This is going to be the dude. Great number one. And then he has like a sort of rocky period.

And that's his fantastic four. But tell her back. Tell her was about to be back in our life. something real. Especially when he's in bleed for this. And I bet you war dogs isn't as bad as people. Oh, I'm going to war dogs. No doubt about it.

Opening night. Opening night war dogs, me and my man. And so this is like when Teller is like, oh man, he's really good in bleed for this and whatever else is coming out next year. Damien Chazelle is going to regret not putting him in La La La Land. Just like, I'm sure we're going to regret not respecting Kyrie Irving earlier than this. I already regret it. I've had to really confront how wrong I was. So it's perfect that those two were in the picture together. Okay.

They're the mirror image of one another. Okay. That's a very interesting theory. I buy that. Also, I think that Whiplash like just resonates with athletes. Like Kobe Bryant loved Whipash. Yeah. Like they don't really see.

Kobe's like, what a great teacher. Yeah, he's like, yes, you should bleed until you can't play. That's my sense. Yeah. It was, it's just funny to me. I always think about a couple years ago before Kyrie really came through like in 08 or in 12 at the team USA practices, Kobe and Kyrie playing one-on-one, and Kyrie, like, won, remember? And Kobe's like, yeah, that's my guy, like, Kyrie's great or whatever.

I feel like-Ire's infatuation with Kobe is weird to me, because I don't feel like he plays like Kobe. No, he doesn't, although they're both are really into playing one-on-one and, like, being the hero. Yeah, like that whole thing with Kyrie facetiming with Kobe after the NBA finals. They're tight. In the locker room, that's crazy to me. It's kind of an interesting friendship. And it sort of is, like, is Kyrie, like, the new era of Kobe is, like, kind of

kind of an interesting question. Yeah, and it does make sense. Kyrie grew up lots of different places, only played a little bit in college instead. It probably would have skipped it entirely if he was allowed to. And, like, has been kind of like a sheltered kid who's, like, now kind of finding his ground. And has the Nike brand.

He's like, Kobe's like the Nike brand I want to be. I also think Kobe, like, creating his black bamba persona, which he, which is like, he just made up himself. It's kind of similar. Uncle Drew. Yeah, like Uncle Drew. It's just like, it's like, Kyrie is like the young millennial and Kobe's like the old monial.

I kind of like the Kari sneakers. Yeah, the crispy creams. Yeah. They're great. He took a Winston-Salem franchise that Chris Paul loves his whole life and was like, those are my shoes. So many. Chris Paul is taking so many O's.

I know. Quick detour to Chris Paul. So President Obama is on Martha's Vineyard. His birthday was this week. He was celebrating by playing golf. Chris Paul got the birthday tea time with President Obama. I know. Dall and Steph Curry got the day after.

Really? Yes. Can I get a quick North Carolina point guards power rankings? right now. Right now, it's still Steph won. No, I mean beloved in North Carolina. Oh, beloved in North Carolina. Who's like the native son? Chris is Chris Paul. I mean, he has the greatest story of all time with his grandpa. His grandpa passed. He got killed at a gas station and he had 63 points. Airball two free throws to throw it was his grandpa's age. You just can't beat that story. Everyone loves him. Steph has like the private school treatment usually. Everyone's like

private school kids. So some people love him, some people hate him. And then, And then John Wall is just the chosen son. But he's all, he's just in a terrible situation. J. Dub rising. Yeah. Okay. So is that an L for Steph Curry that he got the day after? And is that like a win for Chris Paul?

Yeah, I think Chris Paul takes it as a win for sure. I think that there's a real Chris Paul, like, hatred for Steph Curry. Like, I think it, you know, there was one commercial that Steph was a lot to be in in the State Farm. And I just feel like Chris Paul is just like, get that guy out of my commercials. I also think that there's like a. I'm very, it's like we often get like a lot of heat about this, but like speculating about whether people like Steph Curry or not. Whatever. It's one of my favorite.

I do think that I really wish he was on this. If he was on Team USA, they would win every game by 60. I just feel like he would have no problem. Like it would be like, oh, it's with an eight and he would hit three threes. Yeah. That's over. We were watching the game with Bill and he's like, we're Steph. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's been fascinating. So like I think he's missed on Team USA. Yeah. But it's sort of weird to imagine him caught up. and like spa life. Could you imagine if Steph Curry, like if they did actually like walk into that brothel

and the picture is like DeAndre KD. Steph and it's like a brothel report, how incredible that would have been for the internet. It wouldn't have happened. And I have a few reasons for why Steph was never going to be on this team injuries or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is good.

Go. If he was in Rio, he would be with his wife, Ayesha. She'd be on the boat. She would probably not be on the friends and family boat. Team boat. Actually, Steph was in a row. would not be on the team boat he'd be on the friends and family boat i guarantee it number two her that wouldn't have happened because her tv shows filming right now there's just no way he couldn't he couldn't he couldn't

have gone because you're saying that he's home taking care of the kids or you say like he's just like i'm saying that curry's travel as a unit and if one curry's got to work all curries stay home in a way i do yeah i do you know like she's working she does a lot for him and it's his time to be home because her career demands it and she doesn't necessarily want him to go to brothels yeah or contract Zika. I mean, it's totally valid. But there's just no, there's, he was never going to be on this team. Didn't know I was hosting a pod with Pope Solo here.

He's never going to be on that team is my point. And that's fine. And you also like are, I mean, I think Paul George is a very specific case. But if you are a player who's battled injury your whole life or your whole career, why would you like invite another opportunity to get hurt? I think that did. So when, when the season ended, I was under the wrong impression that Steph was going to have some like nuts. Was he having surgery or was he just like...

Who was going to get his knee cleaned up. Did he? I don't think so. That's interesting. I think it was more R&R than anything. Unless they did, you know they do that stuff under wraps too. Like sometimes those team doctors

they'll just like do it and like not release any report on it. Yeah. That's happened to Chandler last year. Yeah. And he's got a max contract. So yes, it did. Okay.

I guess if you play for money, yeah. I want to get back to this Kyrie and Miles Teller, Instagram. We didn't talk about it enough. Do you have more questions about it? No, I just thought it was a, I thought it was a fake mouse teller that Kyrie thought was Miles Teller and then took a picture and then Instagramed it and I thought that would have been like his first L. Like basically I was hoping

that was going to be an L but once again I was wrong and another win for him. Wow. You seem really really tortured. I just like that that Instagram was posted right around the same time that LeBron. Oh signed his contract or announced it on uninterrupted and I was just like this is so great cabs drama never ends. A ring doesn't mean anything to these dudes. I think the calves are going to be awesome next year. I'm into it. So LeBron signs this, does his uninterrupted video saying he's coming back. He gets this huge deal. And he's like, let's get the whole band back together, including the fans. And like, let's sign JR. No mention of Kyrie Irving. And meanwhile, Kyrie Irving is posting him in

his like Kobe tribute to Miles Teller. I'm just like, this is great. I love it. These dudes are really good for each other on the basketball court. And like, that's it. I think they're going to be a great relationship. I think they have a tough time in terms of depth, but I have a really good feeling about them. Well, you know who's... Especially coming out of Espies. Especially coming out of J.R. Smith's summer. Yeah.

Where... At the Short Hills Mall. He just got married. Congrats to J.R. Only, I think, Tristan Thompson attended. LeBron couldn't interrupt his vacation. Uninterrupted vacation is more like it. And now J.R. Smith is celebrating his honeymoon in the great city of Amsterdam.

He must be an Ocean's 12 fan, you know? That's why he wanted to check it out. Red Light District. That's right. He's the night fox. He's the Night Fox of Oceans 12, so he's going and check out those canals. Probably taking the N. Frank Museum. Who knows what else?

Shout out to J.R. I think we know. So much tourism on this pod. That's great. It's the summer, man. I support it. You got anything else? Any other news and notes?

Any other hot topics from around the NBA? I'm interested in the fact that Courtney Lee and Derek Rose are working out together this summer in L.A. our new Nix. That's about as interesting than the NICS will probably get. all year. I think the next will be fine. I like I like I like I like I like I like I like Carmelah will come back and like in playing shape because he's been in Rio. I can't believe the season starts in like six weeks I know. Is it longer than that? Training camp starts at the end of September so that's about six weeks basically. Yeah.

Can Ray Allen sign with the clippers? Yes. He completely over Ray Allen as like an idea. I don't think Ray Allen was even that good like at the end of his career. I mean like he was obviously great on Miami but like the very end of it was just like are we you're holding out of hope for Ray Allen. Like if the clipper sign Ray Allen, it's just like delete your account. So come on.

Yeah. The rookie photo shoot was this week, which is an annual event I enjoy. Kind of being overshadowed by the Olympics, but Buddy seemed pretty fun. I hope that he learned how to play basketball in the NBA because he seems like he's got a great personality. Yeah.

I think that I'm really into Buddy. I'm really into Jalen. Mm. Yeah. Also, okay, so there's the there's the hats that and Josh Richardson have.

Oh, I thought you were going to talk about the bucket hats of Team USA. This is way better. And then there are, and then I saw like Jason Gallagher, our buddy was here yesterday or the other day and he was wearing a Kanye hat that was kind of like that. So what's up with those hats? Is that like a thing now? Like dad and LeBron wears them too. Yeah, his Kermit hat.

Yeah, dad hats. What's up with that? Is that just like dad hats? Dad hats in the move like, you know, 2003 is flap rooms. No, it's a dead house. Such a course correction. It's a complete, yeah. That's because like Ricky Fowler came through and took flatbrams.

Yeah, I think someone saw Ricky Fowler, like, bro, we never can wear that again. Like, never. You know who's a real champion of the dad hat? Who? Kyrie Irving. Yeah, Kyrie kills the dad hat. I feel like dad hat, you have to be like an athlete to really rock that. Or Jason Gallagher, who's a very, like, handsome guy.

Like, you know, it's like, but you have to, you can't just be like, you can't be a dad, basically. Yeah. Is it ironic? Yeah, it's kind of like. I think it's also, it seems malleable so you can do, like, you can put, like, different. sayings on it or you can have like different logos on it. Should we get ringer dad hats? I guess we could, but I feel like we'd be tryhards if we did it.

I'm going to get one because I am a tryhard. Yes, there were Grantland Dad Hats. They were. Danny Child is a Granlin dad. That's beautiful. Yeah. I never went. So Grantlin was ahead of it.

Yeah. Well, they were just making dad. They were just making dad hats. Right. Did we invent it? Dad Hats? LeBron is a dad. I just want to say.

Sure. He seems like he's been hanging out of his kiddos a lot lately, which I'm really in support of. His baby's daughter's really cute. Baby Z. All right, this has been sources say. Cavs, we're still watching you. I guess the- Cabs, we can't wait.

We can't quit you, Cavs. In your heart, no stats, no tape, no games. Top three teams you're most excited. You can't wait to get back into. Cavs? No. I mean, I'm excited about them, but no. Blazers, I'm like really fired up on the Blazers.

The Blazers are really fired up on the Blazers because they paid a ton of money to have the same guys. And Evan Turner. All of my choices right now are going to be. going to be teams that are bad. But in theory, I'm just, like, excited about them. Blazers, I love these babylakers. Like, I just want DeAngela Russell to find some friends. Yeah, baby lakes.

I want Luke Walton to be, like, the new Zen god of the greater Los Angeles area. Okay. I want Brandon Ingram to get caught smoking a joint and have it be no big deal because it says California and that can happen. And, um, I don't know. I'm like, I'm just really into the baby legers. Okay. And number three is a thunder.

Duh. Let's do it, Russ. Yeah, Depot and Russ. Ross, Depot and Steve. I love it. I'm Hawks all day, Kim Baysmore, Dwight Howard, Homecoming, pumped about that. Super pumped for the Nuggets.

Love the Denver Nuggets. Love Axel Tupin. Love Will Barton. Mike Malone. That's my dude. Love those guys. And then the Brooklyn Nets because they are going to be putting up so many shots.

I hope Grievous Vasquez has a game where he takes 51 shots and breaks Kirby's record. Obviously, number one, chilling with the homie Dario and Philly. Ben, Dario, the new showtime. Love Dario. You can sign up. There's a petition going around.

How many Phillies games do you think you'll watch? Sorry, Sixers. A lot of them. Okay, so there's 82. Because they're on a great time for me. Yeah. I guess we need to get Lee Pass in our office. Yeah.

Like in our room. Sixers. Also, just for the magic, not Orlando Magic, but just for the magical nature of what's going to happen. White Side and Waiters and Justice down in Miami. Love it. And Knicks. That's all.

Awesome. I'm really happy we all have different answers, too. Yeah. What an exciting time. That's because basketball is the best. There's so many teams to love. It never stops. We didn't even mention Dark Janus and Jabari. We didn't mention the Eiffel Tower. Stifle Tower. Stifle Tower and Joe Johnson and Boris in Utah.

Oh, my God. Phoenix Suns. And Gordo. Yeah. Oh, my God. I think the weirdest, like, you know, it's weird that like wine officinato, Boris Diaw's in Utah, sure. It's kind of weird that Dion Waiter's on the same team as Hassan White's side.

I really feel like the greatest mismatch of like person in city is Jeff Hornacek in New York. It just doesn't compute for me. He seems pretty cool. We saw him at Team USA. He seemed like an adaptable dude. No, I'm not saying he's not cool. I don't know. I just feel like I so deeply associate him with like the southwestern quadrant of this country

between the suns and the jazz. Yeah, I can see that. I'm just like do you... I can see him in the northwest too. He seems like he could have some stops. He's west of the Mississippi. He's west than Mississippi, and I just feel like it's weird. Yeah, uncharted territory for Hornacek.

Okay, well, good luck to that guy. Thanks for listening to the source to say. Kyrie Irving, you're on a hot streak. Keep it going, buddy. Enjoy your spa.