The Ringer NBA Show - Ep. 4: 'The Ringer NBA Show' With Bill Simmons and Joe House

Episode Date: May 10, 2016

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons grabs Joe House to discuss Curry's historic return against the Blazers, Thompson's two-way dominance (11:00), KD's alpha dog status (18:00), Kanter as the Spurs' kryptonite (25:00), and predictions for Thunder-Spurs tonight (31:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome to The Ringer NBA show. We are taping this on a Tuesday morning, West Coast time, early Tuesday afternoon, East Coast time. And thanks to everyone for supporting all of the new Ringer podcast. We have The Watch, Keeping at 1600, The Ringer NBA show, and the Ringer NFL show. And as of this morning, we were 1, 2, 5, and 6 on iTunes. That was phenomenal. I know that's not going to last, but it's nice to get supported, to get subscribers,

to get the word spread. And since we're here, I should mention any given Wednesday, my new HBO show launching. June 22nd on HBO. And we're going to have some announcements, too, about the launch of the ringer. So stay tuned for that. But right now, we want to do a quick NBA pod because Stefan Curry was unbelievable last night. And tonight's OKC San Antonio game, the stakes are just overwhelming. I'm suffocating.

I can barely breathe. Joe House, how are you? I'm fantastic. These playoffs right now, I think we can say this, they are fully erect. They're engorged. They're fully engorged. I mean, I don't know if we call it throbbing, but holy cow, how about the little spate of games we've had here? I think we can call it throbbing.

Let's start with curry, because last night on the East Coast, and I'm glad Barkley brought this up in the post-game show. because normally Barclay and Kenny would have killed that show, but it was like two in the morning T&T time, and they were a little groggy, so they just kept babbling about how unbelievable the game was. But I thought they captured how incredible that was. And ironically, Shaq had the best point. Shaq made the point that what was incredible about what Curry did

was that he hadn't played basketball for two and a half weeks. And I don't think people understand how hard it is to just jump back into a basketball game that is at warp speed. And to do that, usually it takes like, I don't know, one game, two games, whatever, to get used to the speed, to get your lungs back, all that stuff. And he did all of it in two and a half quarters. It was incredible. First of all, did you stay awake for it?

45, I hadn't really eaten anything. I was hungry. I sat down and I made myself a whole chicken, and I was able to watch the entire second half from like, you know, 1145 to 1.30. You made yourself a whole chicken at 1145 at night, East Coast time? I think it's okay if you're... I mean, I can't imagine a better Joe House night. A full chicken.

Oh, it was a great night. And then Steph Curry pulling a full chicken on the entire Portland Trailblazers team. And, you know, a few things jumped out. One was that Portland was really overachieving the whole series. I mean, they really only played two bad quarters in four games and was going toe to toe with them. Guys like Aminu and Plumley were kind of playing above themselves. Even Lillard and McCollum, who weren't making shots last night, they were still competing at a really high level.

I liked how they were playing. And Curry, when he got going in the overtime, it kind of, not only did it kill the crowd, it kind of discombobulated the Blazers, which is like the last level of NBA greatness when you're playing so well that you actually freak out the other team. The Blazers completely fell apart. It was like, they were like, oh, my God, we can't get to that level. And that was it. It was over. That's right.

And, you know, that's the only natural response. The Warriors have been doing that all season long. They won 73 games that way. They discombobulated everybody that they played. And by the way, to your point, all credit to the Blazers, they have two players. I know. They have two, like, real, you know, guys that can have. the ball in their hands, and then a whole bunch of guys that, God bless them, have been playing

their asses off. And, and, you know, here they are in the second round going toe to toe to toe with a team that I'm expecting to be in the finals this year. I'm, I'm, you know, go. They have two guards and a bunch of ninth, tenth, and eleventh men. And I think Aminu has played better than that, but he's still on a really good team. If he was on, I don't know, the Cavs, maybe OKC he'd get playing time. But it's somebody that is pretty hit or miss. And he kind of rose to the occasion. He's like a defensive specialist.

Yeah, who occasionally makes some threes. And I thought he went to another level. But the crowd was great. And Curry seemed off. Like he understandably was a little rusty. And all of a sudden the switch went on. You know it was great? Yeah.

I think there was like 40. It didn't seem like he was off. He was off. He didn't seem. theme off, he was off. He hadn't played in two weeks. And he was a little tentative, and you could see, like, he wasn't going 100% with his legs yet, and then he kind of ramped it up. But, that's right. They ran a great play. They're down three. I think there was like maybe 45, 50 seconds left in regulation. Coming out of a timeout,

Curry rolling around a double screen, going barreling to the hoop. It seemed like he was going to do a layup. And Harrison Barnes was making it seemed like he was going to set a pick for Clayton Thompson, and then he started popping out for the three right as Curry was passing it to him. It was beautiful, and then Barnes made the three. But one of the things I like about this Warriors team is they'll run huge plays for guys that aren't Curry and Thompson, which I think you have to do. That's what Oklahoma City did on Sunday, I think in game three. They, or maybe game, no, it was game two. It was game.

Oh, okay. Game two, they ran one of the biggest plays of the game for waiters. Remember, waiters hit that three in the course. corner. Yes, yes, yes. And he had a man, he had a man shot the whole half. Yeah, I was, I thought you were going to, I thought you were talking about game four where they were so emphatic about getting Adams involved, which is something like, oh, what a revelation. We're four games into this. Maybe, maybe we should get Stephen Adams some touches. Hold that thought because I want to talk about that series. If, if, I felt like historically Golden State had to win last night.

I think to have three losses in the first two rounds, like if their path is to go all the way and win the championship, go back to back, Curry, back to back MVP, 73 wins plus 16 in the playoffs. You get to 89 total, which nobody has done before, obviously. And you just start looking back at the season 20 years from now. Losing twice to this Portland team wouldn't have been great, even if Curry, you know, missed one of the games. and I just liked that they rose to the occasion and Curry basically said he just basically announced to the team we're not going to 2-2 I'm not letting this happen

and there was real greatness and I think this team has real greatness and I think they're going to beat anybody in these next couple rounds even the calves I know the Cavs I mean the Cleveland fans have they're convinced everyone's against them

I get it but the East is just bad I love the Cavs I love the Cavs and I love them the East is terrible The East is terrible. I love 8-0, though.

8-0 is putting it on the table. 8-0 is taking it out. That's a loaf unroller. They whipped them out. Yeah, the purple loaf. The purple loaf has been whipped out by the calves. They're putting it right on the table. All this rest they're getting now.

Yeah. While Toronto and Miami play every single game into overtime. But look, here's the true testament to greatness. I think they were going to lose that game last. I did when, I thought, I thought they might lose when they were down three coming out of the timeout. And I think Curry, either the previous possession or two possessions before, had taken a really bad three from like 30 feet and missed it. They barely hit the front of the rim.

And what I was thinking in my head was they're going to try to force a play to Curry. And I don't know. He might be too rusty and he might just miss and they might lose. And holy shit, this series might be two, too. and I don't understand it because this Portland team, I went to Game 2 Clippers, Portland, and it was like, the Clippers were in Sweet Portland. It was over.

They were killing them. And I was like, oh, my God, this Portland team has a chance to basically make this a best of three. I don't understand. Like, their guards aren't even playing well. And then the Warriors laid the Smackdown. We should mention Clay Thompson is turning into a top three or four two-way player. Like the stuff he was doing in the Lillow.

last night. Every shot, he was just hounding that dude. You know, he's so good defensively now. It's such a big help, his size advantage, to go along with the speed that he possesses at the moment, you know. He's a big dude. He's a legit six-seven. I think even in socks, you know, I saw everybody ratchezed up or down their height depending on what they want people to believe. But I think he's a real six-seven. And he's also big physics. I didn't love, um, Scott Foster's performance last night. Oh, my God. The Warriors were able to be a little physical on defense,

and that was very helpful against Dane. Clay has been one of the five best players in the playoffs. I'm looking it up right now. 26.6 points a game. And he's taking 10-3s a game in the post seat. He's making 46% of him. Jesus. Yeah, yeah.

And he's really hustled on both ends. He's really busting him to look it up. Yeah, he's really busting his ass. And obviously, Draymond was incredible last night. It was just a classic Dremont game. Another classic Dremon game. So, you know, they'll finish in five. They'll get to watch the Spurs and Thunder just beat the living shit out of each other now for these next three games.

And I felt this way after Game 4, and I guess it's just the way I'm going to feel the rest of the series. It feels like there's real history happening with this series. in a bunch of different ways. Like, Duncan's done. You know? I was talking to one of our friends last night, who I won't name. And we were saying, like,

we went to Duncan's last great game last year in that Clipper series. It was like his last, awesome game. I don't want to put a, I don't want to put a, you know, get the shovel out quite yet. He's done in this series.

He cannot be competitive in this series. It's just a terrible matchup for his skill set. You know, he'll have a, a couple moments left. I'm just saying he's done as an impact guy. Okay. My last Grant line column actually was about Duncan and how that, because at that time we thought he was going to retire.

But the fact that they didn't play him in crunch time when, what's his face? Donovan finally realized that he should be playing Canter and Adams together down the stretch, especially when Canter is engaged like that. You just got to ride him because that guy's actually talented. And the fact that the Spurs kept West in, I thought it was a rare Popovich mistake. I'm just, David West, I know he made a couple, I know he made a couple plays in game three, but I don't know if that's the right guy for crunch time in this series for them,

especially like a couple times he got matched up defensively against Duran. It was just a nightmare. And I don't know. Well, it's only a nightmare because it's against Duran. Like, Duncan's not going to do better against him. Right, but I'm saying if they're going to play Adams and Cantor together and Timmy's not out there, then that makes me think Pop thinks Timmy might be, have a little... He can't keep up with either one of those guys.

He should be able to keep up with Cantor? I don't think that's a pop mistake. I don't think Pop's wrong about that. He can't keep up with Cantor? I don't think he can keep up with Canter. Cancer's great in the low post. So who would you play? West.

I didn't have any... problem with the lineup. I don't know. To me, look, here's the thing. I don't love West. I don't think they, if West is playing crunch time, I think that's a real red flag. I don't think he can. No, you, I don't like him.

I don't like them against this Thunder team. Seconds ago, Durant was killer. That's the difference. Here's the thing. And this is, uh, I did a little research. Um, you hit me up saying, hey, let's do some, some pod. Let's talk about this OKCT team a little bit. Right now,

under these circumstances and this iteration where Kevin Durant is the alpha dog. Kevin Durant scoring 17 points in the fourth quarter is the best version of Oklahoma City. So why did that happen? But why did that happen? Because Russell Westbrook is at the moment in the previous two games, 15 for 49. With crucial turnovers. But why else did it happen? I don't know. What are you getting at? because Westbrook laid back in that game.

And that was one of the only times we've seen him do that. He actually, instead of... But were you confident? First of all, that was one of the most fascinating halves of basketball I watched in a while because in the third quarter, the body language was so snippy on that OKC team. And Westbrook really seemed out of control. And we felt that way with him before, but it really seemed like he was just going to screw up the entire series for them. Donovan sat him for a while, right?

And they got their mojo back with FOI and waiters and Canter hit a three and all of a sudden they kind of get. And then Durant started to get hot and Westbrook came back in and I specifically remember thinking like he's going to fuck this up for them. This is going to be where Westbrook shoots them out of the game, out of the series and Durant's going to leave. That's what's at stake right now. And to his credit laid back, Durant just killed them. And there you go. Didn't you see everything you wanted? Didn't you see everything you wanted from Durant in that game?

That's what I loved about that game. Yes, of course. This is the point I'm making. Yeah, I'm with it. This is the best version. This is how they're going to beat the Spurs. If they beat the Spurs, it's Russell Westbrook as facilitator while he figures out what's going on with his shot. His overaggressive approach, 15 for 49 is not good. He set up Stephen Adams for that pick and roll that was unstoppable.

But I think here's my fear if I'm a Thunder fan. I think that was in the moment. I think going into game five, here's my fear. Is Russell Westbrook-Spanning the last two days going, well, Durant said this in game four and now it's my turn. If he's saying that, they're screwed. If he's saying we found the recipe, KD's got, we got a ride KD and I have to be a facilitator,

I think they can win the series. If he's saying to himself, KD did it in game four, now it's up to me in game five, it's my turn. They're screwed. I really think that. Well, that's going to be fascinating, right? And we won't know until halfway through the fourth quarter which version of Russell we're going to get.

We didn't know in game four. Even with Duran, as red hot as he was, weren't you waiting for Westbrook to be like, okay, now I'm going to get hot, but he didn't. And he didn't. That's right. I mean, I think at some point, somebody's got to reach out to him and say, like, he's a historically bad three-point shooter for the volume of three-pointers that he takes. And San Antonio has been begging him to take three-pointers in the fourth quarter game four. So I'm hoping, I'm projecting a little bit here, but I'm hoping that he's wanting what's best for his. his team, which is let KD be the guy in the fourth quarter. Let me do my best to put all my guys in the best position.

You said a whole bunch of names there in the third quarter that really did change the tenor the direction. I thought that the Spurs were going to win game four all the way up until Durant started making crazy Durant shots in the fourth quarter. I thought somebody would write this yesterday and nobody did. At some point during that second half, it started to feel like LeBron against the Cavs, I mean, I'm sorry,

LeBron against Boston in 2010, game five when it was two to two. And the pressure of the moment and the possibility of his leaving, it kind of suffocated him in the crowd and Boston beat them and then they beat him in game six. Then the same thing happened in 2014. The spurs were way better. But I went to game four in Miami in the finals.

And the spurs were just housing them. And at some point, I remember, I think I said this on TV, too. At some point, I remember, the Miami fans were leaving. And I remember thinking, like, don't they realize this might have been his last home game in Miami? And there's certain times when you can kind of feel the history in the game as it's happening. And I felt that way with Durant in that game. And he went the other way than LeBron did in 2010. It was like he was like, he had a, I don't want to say he had an out.

But if the series had drifted a certain way and they lose in five and everyone blames Westbrook, it's a lot easier for him to leave. And I got the feeling from him in that game that he wants to stay and he wants to make it work in OKC and he wants to win the title there. And he just, the way he came through, it's weird, but it made me think he's not going to leave. Does it make sense? Well, I think there are still a million things that can happen in the next three games that may or may not affect his ultimate.

you know, decision on staying or doubt that he wants to win this year, and he wants to beat the Spurs this year, and he wants to, you know, that, you know, criticize their fourth quarter performance all season long. And say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, a little bit, but y'all forgot about KD. And he went out and put on, like, kind of a vintage, old-school KD performance. I went back and looked at the finals, the 2011-12 finals,

because I was trying to think about the last time I felt like KD was the obvious affirmative unambiguous alpha dog. And I think it was all the way back then. But that's the best version. His MVP season, he had some regular season moments like that. It was everything I wanted from him. It was everything I wanted from him. How about that is the cherry after the leg injury

and all of the doubts and questions we had coming into this season. What are we going to get out of OKC? this season. Where we were getting out of KD? And that was a cherry performance. How about a couple of the shots he hit with Kauai just in his jersey, basically. The runner on the baseline, the running floater one-handed, 10-footer that he threw like 28 feet in the air. And it just moonballed in.

It was outrageous. I was something that describes his physical traits as conquering the sharktipus. because when Durant, all seven feet of him with his arms, you know, another four feet longer or whatever, he's like 11 feet tall when he's taking those shots. He's literally unstoppable, and probably the only dude on the planet that Kauai can't get in front of with that.

Yeah, Sharktipus, his tentacles need to be like two inches longer. Durant can just, basically he has like an inch to shoot over him every time, unless, unless, like, Kauai's in his face. But he's making him work for it. There were a couple unbelievable athletic moments in that game. One was when they had a, it was a steel and OKC had a two on one. They showed this replay kind of a wider shot. Westbrook's on the left wing.

Duran has the ball on the right side and Kauai is the only guy back. And even though everyone's going full speed, Westbrook is like, it's like he had a jet pack. I think he's the fastest guy in the history of the league. I was really thinking about this. I was like, is there ever been a faster guy than Westbrook? He's so... My boy here is pretty fast.

My boy Johnny Wall is pretty fast. Who would win a race with them? I don't know who would win the race, but I know that that finish would be a lot more, you know, rim-shattering than my boy Johnny Wall. So Westbrook's going. He's running like a 3-940. He's like Usain Boat and Durant passes to him

and Sharktipus comes out and just basically grabs the ball. Grab the ball. The whole play was like, oh my God. God, how are we members of the same species of human? We're not. Who are these people? It's a reminder. We're not.

Yeah. I think the big winner of this series has been Adams. Adams, somebody said, I think Shaq said Adams was the best center left in the playoffs. No, he's not. And I'm thinking about it. I was like, oh, my God, he might be the best center left in the playoffs. Because Valenciennes got hurt. I like it more than Valchance's anyway.

Zach did a nice column. Zach Lo did a nice column yesterday about this play that OKC is now running for Adams. The thing that's curious, you know who I'm going to give runner up to playoffs so far, at least, you know, performance in Game 4 is Billy Donovan. That was great. That was a pretty good game there in Game 4. But that Adams' pick and roll with Westbrook is on. Doppel.

Yeah. Well, Donovan... Because of Westbrook. Donovan, the ballsy, he did a lot of ballsy things in that game. He sat Westbrook for a tiny bit longer than I think Westbrook expected.

And I don't know if he said to him, like, look, we're riding Durant and if you start shooting him and take you out, or if he just kind of let him sit there and soak in what was happening in the game and hoped Westbrook would trust the momentum of the game. I think it was the last.

ladder. You think Billy Donovan speaks to Russell Westbrook? Yeah, you're probably right. I don't think that maybe they haven't communicated once. But then benching Abaka for Canter, I thought, I've been waiting for it. I don't, I think the Spurs have a real problem with Canter. They, especially on the glass. Especially with the so, the immensely curious way that OKC has neutered Abacca.

They've ruined his, hey, we, Tate and I were talking about this the other day. I was saying, uh, we're talking about it. in the office yesterday that if OKC blows the series and Durant leaves, like I really wonder, do they, first of all, they should trade Abacca. If you're Minnesota and you get like the six pick in the draft,

I'm giving that up for Abaka right now because he's become expendable on this O'KC team. You kidding? You're kidding? Absolutely. Totally agree with that. I blame it's half him and it's half just what he's been relegated to. I think they just tell him the freaking stand over

in the corner. Stand 25 feet. So weird, he's way out, way of far away from the basket. It seems like it has altered his confidence. It's altered his sense of contribution, his role. But the point you were making was a canter point. Cantor is an presence. He has a whole bunch of shake and bake stuff. Yeah.

No, not Dream Shake now. Let's not go crazy. But he's a very crafty, low post player with very good footwork. And I don't think, OKC, they're best, their best defender against them. that is West. I really do think that. Yeah, but that's great for... Because Leonard's got to be out on KD or Westbrook. That's great for OKC.

And that's why I think we're going to see Canner and Adams in Crunchtime, because if it's Canner and Adams versus West and Aldridge, especially... One thing to watch with this series that I think is super important is how these games are officiated, if you're allowed to be chippy, and to really be physical, it helps OKC so much. And that's what game two and game four,

the officiating lended itself to, you can do a double elbow, and Lamarcus Alders is back every time. Go ahead. When he's posting up, hit him in the back. When you can chip Kauai come off any screen. Yeah, but that's great for OKC. And I think if you go into game five tonight

and the refs are calling all the cheap stuff, that helps San Antonio. I also think, like, that's the way to play San Antonio. is to rough them up and be physical and just try to wear them down. Like what Donovan did with the pace in game four, I think really helped. I think that was part of the reason San Antonio was missing shots in the fourth quarter. The speed of the game was about a half second too fast for them, and it warmed down.

Right. The OKC's advantage resides in its athleticism. So the two ways for them to exploit that athleticism is being a touch more physical and a touch faster. And that's the best way for them to have success against the spurs. All right, but wait a second. Think about what you just said there. That's the way they played it. Think about what you just said there.

Their advantage is to go faster. And they know that. But they have Russell Westbrook, whose disadvantages, he goes too fast. I know where you're going. I know where you're going. So it's like. Yeah. And that's why this is, I love this series so much.

And I actually think Oklahoma City has a better chance to be Golden State because of their speed and the fact that Golden State defensively, you can score on them, you know? I just don't think San Antonio's guards are good enough to make Golden State's back court work. And that's how you ultimately you're going to, that's why I think Cleveland, I'm not making history here by saying this, I think Cleveland has the best chance to beat Golden State because of Kyrie. If Kyrie just goes into one of those Kyrie hot streaks in the finals and they have LeBron going and they're making three, It's like that's a recipe to be golden state. I'm rooting for it.

That's the finals I want to see. I want the rematch. I want Cleveland to be healthy. I love, you know, I love love with his newfound confidence and his role established. I mean, what, you know, how about this Cleveland team? How about Ty Lou? Speaking of MVP. I like what I seen from Tyler.

This is a good recipe because when you're taking a lot of threes like this, all you're doing is making the games more random. If I'm going to state, I'm like, oh, no, Cleveland's going to take 33s a game. It just makes it more random because you're going to have games where you go 15 for 30. It creates so much space for LeBron to operate in. Yeah. It's such a nice, you know, to direct. It's a novel little thing that they've introduced at this point in the season. And I'm applauding at 8-0 Cleveland.

That's my squad right there. Well, ultimately, it makes me wonder, if Blatt had just realized that Love should play at the 5 and they should spread out like this, he's still the coach. He never could figure out what to do with all the big guys. And the reality is spread out and shoot 3s. This is what they should have been doing the whole season. I'm glad they figured it out for me because it's been really fun to watch.

He had 125 games to figure it out and he didn't. I know. Prediction for tonight. Oh, my God. It's in San Antonio, right? Yeah. I mean, this could be it for the Duncan era if they lose this game tonight. I don't think they can win a game six in OKC.

Not with Duran. I don't feel like that was... I hate saying this. I don't feel like game four was a hot streak for Duran. I think this is who he's going to be for the rest of the series. It doesn't mean that San Antonio can't win the series, but I think Duran, this is going to be a hot streak for him. A little reminiscent of... You stole my point.

Yeah, a little reminiscent of third. My point was the 17 points that KD in the fourth quarter put up that I feel like a continuation is coming. And what I really hate doing is picking against Pop, picking against Timmy, picking against Kauai. But you know what? I'm picking against him. Wow. I like OK, Steve, tonight. Because that point you just made, I just think KD, KD is an MVP.

Well, and not just that, but it's the right point of his career. It reminds me in Dirk in 2006 when Dirk had that freaking crazy hot streak that rode them into the finals until the ref stole the finals from Dallas. But remember Dirk had like, I remember writing a column about him at some point during that playoffs. He had like this 10 or 11 game run. It was when they beat, they won game seven on the road in San Antonio. But even the round before that, all of a sudden he was like 30 plus a game. He was like 55%. He was just, he was lights out every game.

And I wonder if Doreit, that's the point we're hitting right now. Now, here's the catch. Westbrook could go 10 for 32 tonight and just shoot them out of the game and put them into a spiral. That's the caveat. Yeah. And I'll be, you know, I'll be on the Twitter tonight. I'll do some live tweets while we watch us. We'll see what version of what else is it supposed to be called.

Yeah, I'll be on that tonight. And we'll know what version of Westbrook we have because that's my caveat to my, guess that the OKC is going to pull it out. The only other prediction I'm going to make, I think Duncan reaches back tonight a little bit. I think they need Duncan to win this game. If they're going to play Adams and Cantor, we disagree on this.

I like when we disagree. Everyone thinks we agree too much. I just disagree. I think they need Duncan. Well, you're a no man too. You're a yes man and you're a no man. You're Joe House. That's who you are.

Don't let the haters get in your head. Joe House? I am the houseman. Come on. You're the houseman. I think Duncan reaches back tonight. And I don't think they can win this series if David West is the crunch time guy.

I just don't see it. It's a bad match. This series is a bad matchup for him because it hurts them too much on the glass. So we will see. I'm rooting. I'm rooting for 10-A-N-N-A-game. All right, so check out

All the Ringers's new podcast. You got to subscribe to keeping it 1600 and the watch. I made a special appearance on the watch yesterday to talk about my new favorite movie on Netflix that I stumbled into. Thanks to my buddy, Jeff Gallo. And it was one of the best horror movies I've seen in 10 years. What is it? I'm not going to tell you.

I'll listen to the watch. I'll listen to the pod. Listen to the watch. We'll talk about it in the first four minutes. I have two BS podcasts coming up later in the week. But if you missed last week, we had David Chang. I know that pod made you hungry house. I had to rush right over to Momofuku for lunch.

Do you know that after that podcast, he took me to Korea Town and me and him and our buddy Chen, we made love to a giant Korean barbecue stew. That was one of the best things I've ever put in my mouth. It was so good. And I feel like I've missed the boat on Korea Town. I'd like to apologize to Korea Town for not going there enough and not eating their food because Korea Town is unbelievable. And I've completely botched this. I've been in LA since 2002.

My apologies to Korea Town. I plan on eating more of your food over the next five years because it is delicious. Oh, you know who's coming out to California. You know who's going to be in L.A. next week. What a... Joe House. Yeah. All right.

I'm going to take you to Korea Town. Yeah. Come on. And also the Michael Rapport podcast that we did last week was when it... We had a good run of BS podcast. So just check out some of them. Rappaport was... Rapaport's Prince tribute and talking about Prince and Matt Dillan being stick men, just incredible all the way around from.

Joe House, thank you. Don't forget Joe House has his own golf podcast, and it is heating up in golf. Things are heating up right now. Shack House. We record Jeff, Jeff Shackleford and I getting together tonight to pump out our preview of the players, which kicked off Thursday. We're going to make some picks. We're going to talk about the course. We're going to talk about some other fun stuff.

some wagerings that might be out there. But, yes, Shackout, look for it. It'll be out tomorrow. I mean, you basically gave everyone the Masters champion. I did give the Masters champion 50 to one, Danny Willett. I did give that out. I put it on the Twitter. We have the Players' Championship.

We have the U.S. Open. We have the PGA. We have the Riter Cup. We have the Olympics. All coming up. This is really why we created the Shackas podcast. So subscribe to that. And enjoy the hoops tonight.

I'm super excited. We're in a nice little basketball run right now. Thanks for listening to The Ringar, NBS show. Thanks for Joe House. Thanks to Tate. And thanks to Joe Fuentes. And we'll be back later this week.