The Ringer NBA Show - Nikola Jokic’s MVP Discussion Takes a Turn, and Austin’s Biggest Pet Peeves | Off Guard with Austin Rivers

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

Austin and Pausha weigh in on the recent happenings with Ja Morant (6:12) and Kevin Durant’s ankle injury during warm-ups (17:12). Then, they break down Kendrick Perkins’s comments around Nikola Jokic’s MVP candidacy (25:31), address the ongoing feud between Dillon Brooks and Draymond Green (31:37), and discuss the teams leading both conferences ahead of the playoffs (41:17). Later, Austin outs himself as the “Larry David” of the NBA, revealing some of his biggest pet peeves (45:40). Hosts: Austin Rivers and Pausha Haghighi Producers: Erika Cervantes and Ben Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What's up, everybody? Welcome to Offguard. My name is Austin Rivers. Alongside of me is my co-host, Pasha Hagigi. What's up, my guy, back for another episode, a new week. What's happening? I'm doing good, man. I actually have been sick for the last couple days.

People say it's allergies, but this is my flu game for sure. I'm not feeling out here. Do you have the flu? I thought you told me that you were going to go to a jazz, a magic game earlier. No, no, no, no, no. I was battling at the last few days. I'm feeling good now.

And after we get done recording here, I'm going to go to the Jazz Magic. Which I think that's like the 2008 NBA finals. Yeah, that game sounds incredible to go to. I would enjoy that game. It's the rookie of the year

versus an All-Star game starter, Lori Marketing. Anytime those type of teams play where the game is like awkwardly being played for Victor, I would rather not watch. I don't know if they're playing for Victor. They might be playing for like a Thompson twin or something,

but I don't know if they're Victor's in play for those teams. Victor's have played for everybody. Anybody with a losing record, Victor's in play for. No? For sure. I think, I just feel like he's going to the Spurs. I think it's like meant to be. I could picture him in a Spurs uniform.

Is that the market? By the way, do you have any thoughts on conspiracies and like controlled of where they want, like, do you really think it's, you know, they did. Well,

so the NBA was in charge of the hornets. Right, like the NBA was in charge of the hornets, right? They were running the hornets when they got Anthony Davis,

got the number one pick. I don't know. Would Cleveland have gotten it three out of four years after LeBron left if it was rigged? I don't know. It's tough to say.

And I know Ernstyn Young is in charge of the draft. I don't think they would put their name out there if it was rigged. So do you think it's right? No, it's just, I don't know.

Would you want Victor in San Antonio? I think that would be a good place for him. I do not want him in Houston. I don't think that's like the best place. Are you saying that in terms of just culture or environment currently, the climate there? I just feel like, yeah, I don't know. I don't necessarily love Houston's young core. They're super talented.

I don't love what I'm seeing. I don't know what's really going on over there. But San Antonio, yeah. I feel like you're made for success when you get drafted. that over there. So that'd be a good place for him. Yeah. I mean, does that, does that extend Pops? Pops not retiring with Vic coming there, no? I don't know. Does he see him and see Tim Huckin all over again? No, how bad? I mean, how, I think Pops should go somewhere and drink some wine and relax. I don't think he's going to, it's going to be years until Vick's in his prime, you know, maybe competing for

titles. I don't think Pops can't make it for that. I don't see that. But if you could hand it off and maybe have Tim Duncan mentor, that would be pretty cool. Yeah. I wanted to ask you, did you see Jake Paul running from Floyd Mayweather? I recently just saw the video. I don't understand what's going on in the video. The way he just takes off and runs at the end is pure comedy. With that being said, I don't know how many people would stick around.

It wasn't like it was Jake and Floyd in a hallway, just those two and he ran. It was Floyd in like 15 of his. just gargantuate-sized security that he keeps, is unnecessary. And listen, I love Floyd. He's a friend. He's a Hall of Famer. Obviously, he's one of the best boxing champions that we've ever had.

With that being said, security that he runs with, you could argue it causes more attention and brings more attention to him than it does actually secure him. I mean, he walks around with, like, this massive crowd of people. That crowd was facing me. and wanting to hurt me. I don't understand what Jake could have possibly done there other than run if he had those size guys trying to get to him. I also don't understand what Floyd's doing.

If I'm a guy who's made close to a billion dollars in boxing and have the resume I had, I just wouldn't even be caught in a lifetime arguing with someone like Jake, let alone. He's been in controversy, though, and like these kind of battles since he can remember. So I feel like this is all goes. Some people think it's rigged.

Some people think they're setting up another like, you know, you know how they like the little boxing expedition they had with Logan and Floyd. People think they're doing the same thing with Jake and Floyd and trying to create like actual fake beefs. And remember they took his hat the one time and it was like that whole thing. Like, bro, it's a joke. I don't know. I don't find entertaining nonetheless. I do agree though.

If there's a bunch of people, you know, coming at me, I'm running for sure. No one's ever said, wow, that guy got beat up by eight people. He's a real hero. Like, he is tough. Like, I'm 100% running. I mean, yeah, John Wick is the last person I've ever seen beat up eight people handily in a room with no problems. But I did see you approach an entire bench of players against the match.

Everyone's built different. Everyone's built different. One person's running away from a group of people. I saw you approach a bench of players. I didn't say it you did. Okay, yeah. Okay. All right, let's get this some basketball stuff.

The biggest news in the last week since we last spoke, the John Moran drama. I feel like people have been talking about it to death at this point. We've heard everyone share their opinion on it. Do you have anything that you kind of want to add to it or just an unfortunate incident and hope you can't help? Well, people are acting like he's diagnosed with some type of mental sickness that he needs help.

Like he's just young and right now could be a little bit misguided. Sometimes getting that much power, fame, and money all very fast in one couple years period of time can be a lot for a player to handle, especially when you and your dad are kind of going through it. I think even T's had to adjust his life. You know what I mean?

He went from just being a guy who's helping his son try to get somewhere. And now his son's like a global superstar. And like he's also living this life as well. You know, so adjustments have to be made. They've definitely gone about things not maybe the best way. With that being said, I don't want people to like overreact in terms of trying to diagnose Jaws character. I think this is more from what we're seeing is a just immaturity and just youth.

I don't know Joss super well, but I know him well enough to know. He's not a bad guy. He's actually a pretty damn good guy. His father's a good guy as well T. They just got a lot going on right now. Sometimes you're just doing a little too much and you might just need to like take a step back and like learn from stuff. I think we've all been there, especially when we're younger. I know I have.

Jaws also in a microscope. you know, he is part of this new social wave. It comes with everything, you know, when this guy scores, he dances. You know, I mean, he's in the club. He goes on Instagram live. You know, these aren't things that I would do or a lot of other players do, but this is that new wave of players. These guys have grown up with social media.

So they are way more interactive with them. And there's a lot of good with that because they get to reach out to fans a lot. But because of that, you're making yourself very, very vulnerable. You know what I mean? And the fact was, if he was never on his live, in that club he would have never gotten in trouble not condoning him having a gun in the club i'm not condoning him having a gun walking around with the period especially while drinking but it is crazy out here every day i turn the news and i see something horrific happened god forbid that happened anybody i

know i can't blame him for wanting to be secure and have a weapon but it's a different thing when you're drinking and you're on your phone in the club and waving it around so it was it was a weird thing you know I mean, I hope the NBA is not too harsh on him and not trying to make an example out of him. I hope they go about it in the way where they're trying to actually help the guy and just get him the right guidance in terms of how to move. But in terms of his character and who he is and his soul and what type of player he is, like that shouldn't be into question. He's just young, man. He's just making some mistakes right now. These are all be a part of his growth, just like we've seen with all players. I don't think there's ever been a player that you've seen that hasn't

gone through some type of, you know, turbulence early on in their career. And the fact is, if there was cameras and social media back when your favorite beloved stars played in the 90s and the 80s and even in the early 2000s, we would have tons more of these issues. That's a really good point you made, by the way. The guys in the 80s and 90s, they weren't as accessible. And they didn't have the, it's cool as it is that we know what, you know, LeBron's eating on a Tuesday and we're so into these people's lives. You're not going to love everything you see. from these guys. Back in the day, like in the 90s,

I used to love NBA Inside Stuff with Ahmad Rashad. And he would have this five-minute clip of him following around an NBA player and you would learn just a little bit about that guy's life. I remember they followed Stefan Arbery in Minnesota when he played for the Timberwolves.

And I thought that was so cool. I was like, wow, man, I'm learning a little bit about stuff on. Nowadays, you know everything about everybody. And it's just so, it's so accessible. It is. It's very, very, everything's out there. And there's a good things

and bad things about that. And Jaws learning, I think, right now how to handle that better. I think in terms of who he is as a character, I think Jaff, God knows who the fuck he is, man. This whole thing where, like, I'm seeing, and I have nothing respect for Shannon Sharp but a bunch of other people, but the guys on TV saying that he doesn't know who he is or don't try to be this.

I don't think he's trying to be anything. He's not. I think he has qualities in, I think he, qualities is the wrong word. I think he has just character habits with some of the people that he hangs out with, where sometimes he can be something. and I'm not saying it's a, you know, a fraudulent behavior that he's acting in where he's not being himself, but he's hanging around people. And like you said, a lot of his friends are probably from those areas and they listen to music, this, this, this, in the club.

They have some drinks. Next thing you know, you know, he's feeling himself in a way and, like, flashes a gun because he's young, man. Like, that's all it is, bro. I don't know. I hope he gets all right, man. The league's better with the best players on the floor. It's bottom line. And John's a good kid.

He didn't hurt anybody at the end of the day. thank God. He's okay. His dad's okay. They just, you know, like I said, man, everybody needs help at some point in their career. This might be a little speed bump in the road for job for him to get past. Nike's sticking with them, which is interesting, considering that they dropped Kai and then they signed this guy. And within like the first couple months, this is going on. So it's pretty interesting for them. I mean, what are your take on that? That's, I mean, with Adidas with Kanye and Nike with Kyrie and now Jod, it's tough out there. But, I mean, what are you going to do?

I have a question for you. I know you guys have a rookie transition program when you get drafted. They talk about, you know, don't do this. This is how people go broke. Stay away from these girls, yada, yada, yada. Is there anything else that there are for young players? Because the league's getting younger, like you said. Is there anything else to kind of, you know, throw some knowledge at these young guys and help them?

because it is a lot of money coming to guys at a young age. I don't really know what you can do. You know, how much a player gets out of a seminar where they're listening to someone talk for an hour or two hours, after those kids tune a lot of that stuff out. You know, a lot of it is just how you're raised, man. Like I, you know, and or if you're not that, if it's not that, it's the people that you have placed around you in the moment.

What team has been built around you? I think the NBA, if anything, should start like maybe possibly looking into like the qualifications to work with players, the qualifications to in terms of management, this, that, like I don't know how you could even go about that, but I think the better people you put around young players specifically, you know, the better outcome you'll have, you are who you hang with.

And a lot of times these guys go to these meetings, they have once, you know, they have it like one rookie seminar meeting. Yeah, isn't that the one? I think that's the one that Michael Beasley got caught with weed. I don't want to think that's. what happened. Like, that was the same one.

I don't know if that's true. And I don't need Michael Beasley coming after me or anything like that. Something like that. I don't know what it was. But yeah, well, first off, during that time, that's when it's a couple of years prior of what I got in the league, that's when they used to have the meeting up in Jersey up in, oh, man. Sococcus.

No, it was such a, it wasn't the greatest of areas. And it wasn't like, you couldn't do anything. You went around to leave a hotel. I think they've changed some of these rules now. I think now it's in like Vegas or something. It's something ridiculous. Not rookie transition in Vegas? I don't know where it's at now.

I know it's not in there. I know it's not in Jersey anymore. But yeah, it's that meeting. And again, it's like speech to speech to speaker. After a certain amount of time, your average 21-year-old, they're,

I don't even know if they're capable of taking all this information and actually retaining it. After like minute 45, it is going through one ear and out the other. So, I mean, I don't know how much help they get out of that, but a buddy of mine suggested they should do some kind of a program where a player that's retired gets to sign a lottery pick and it's kind of their mentor um and he can kind of you know he's been there before and he can help these players out and also at the same time it gives some retired players maybe a job in the NBA because some of them need something like that too and that could be something where imagine if ray allen was a lottery uh you know someone like that is a lottery pick's mentor and it could be like hey stay away from this this is what happened to me don't do that but a program like that could help.

I don't know if maybe I even has anything like that. They don't have anything like that. They do have a lot of former players that come during the season. And you have mandatory meetings with the NBA. And they'll have one, a financial meeting. One will be about drugs and alcohol and opiate abuse. One will be about, you know,

managing the people around you. One is just about women, you know, just to really like help guys navigate what to stay away from, what they'll look about. And they'll have former players be there and give their number out to guys like, hey, reach out to me. It's hard to force a relationship on somebody. And as you know as a man, a lot of times men are very prideful beings.

And it's hard for someone, especially who's already getting so much success in that moment to admit that they need any help. It's usually too late by the time that a lot of these guys outsource and call someone like, yo, I'm going to, you know, I need help. They usually are already in a jam at that point or already facing the repercussions of bad choices. So I don't know what they could do. I think your idea is a pretty good idea where maybe like they get assigned to them.

And, you know, but again, you can't force or make anybody be in a relationship with anybody. And I say relationship. I mean, friendship or guidance counselor, however you want to really tag that. So, but that's not a bad idea, though. I don't mind that, Pasha. Did your, did your father ever just when you got dropped and say, hey, like, don't do it? I didn't really have to, man. You just led by example.

You know, that's the privilege. The biggest privilege I got in my life growing up was not how much money, you know, or how famous, you know, my dad was or had. That stuff was, I don't take that stuff for granted, you know, having a bed to sleep in, you know, food on the table, et cetera, et cetera, those are unbelievable privileges that I had. The biggest privilege that I had was I had two parents who showed me the way of how to be a man, you know, the things to do, not do what's right, what's not right. So those conversations between me and my mom and my dad really weren't ever needed in terms of how to be able to handle being an NBA player because I got to see it every day.

I woke up and I got to see my parents move, how they addressed people, how they respected people, how they protected themselves, how they were able to move and help me become a young man able to handle early on success at 18 years old. And even then, I still hit a bunch of road bumps early on in my career, man. I mean, there's a lot of moments my first couple years in New Orleans where I'm like, you know what? I wish I would have done that differently, but that's all part of, you know, life, right? So that's that you don't have to be an athlete to have those moments. I have things. Exactly.

Exactly. So everyone has those things. Yeah, yeah. It's just part of it, man. It's part of it. Switching gears. I don't know if you saw, I'm pretty sure you saw Kevin Durant slip during a pregame to warmups last night.

It looks like he's going to be out for a while. What did you think about that? It didn't look that serious when it happened. It looks like he might be out for you. Well, you never know. I mean, some of the most horrific injuries today in the NBA are injuries that are even non-contact. You know, obviously the Achilles injury itself. Usually it looks like nothing happens and the guy is, you know, horrifically injured somehow.

So it didn't look that serious, but it also was awkward. You know, the way his ankle twisted and the way his body gave out like that, it was scary to see. I'm glad it's nothing too serious. But they're saying, you know, he's going to be out for an extended period of time. the sons aren't in any worry of not making the playoffs. So I don't think they'll be fine. If there's any player who could just come back and compliment a team like that, it would be KD.

You see how quickly he was flourishing already with the sons in his first few games with them. So I think if they get him back for playoffs, they'll be just fine. But this still does hurt chemistry. You know, it was still like these 10, 15 games to build with him. I will say, like you said, though, the chemistry thing, he's, you know, we gave him that compliment already last episode. He's one of those guys that you just plug in on it. But he could go in any team.

He's so skilled and natural of a score. He's so gifted and efficient, more importantly, it's a score that it's just so easy for him to go on a team and just do what he does. He's probably the most complimentary player in the NBA. He really is. He's a guy that you don't have to put a whole system around and he'll dominate a game. There's not a lot of guys that you could really do that with, especially superstars specifically.

Those guys are very tailored, tailor-made. Every team is tailor-made around their best player. And Kevin is one of those guys that, like, he really is like a mercenary for hire, man. Like, he's just a guy that you pay max money to come and be a star on your team, and he can just come do that. No matter how many games it is, he has that ability to do so. So he'll be fine with the sons. That's crazy. That's why I never was a one foot jumper.

Growing up, I, early on when I was young, I could jump off both feet, two feet or one feet pretty easily. And I jumped off two feet so much because my worry was just going at a certain speed. and you jump off one, your leg giving out. And I've seen some of the worst injuries happen that way. I've never seen you dunk one hand, one foot. But that's why it happened early on is because I never wanted that to happen. And ironically enough, I take it back because dunking off one feet is so much more easier going full speed or like going to the basket.

Like jumping off two feet, you have to have time and space. And they're like dunk on someone off two feet in the NBA. Like you have to have insane bounce. You know what I mean? Like different bounce. It's different. where like one feet, you could really catch somebody slipping. You could sneak dunk a lot of guys.

Have you ever dunked on anyone in the NBA? I didn't know in high school your mixtape was bonkers. That question is mad disrespectful. I took that personally. I'm sure. I'm just taking that personally. The answer is yes. The answer is yes.

But yeah, no, I'm just kidding. Not a lot. Maybe like a couple. All BS aside. I haven't ducked a lot of people in the NBA. No. I do got a couple bodies here and there. A lot of my stuff has just been within the game, transition, fast breaks,

or even if it is in the motion of an offense, it hasn't really been on somebody. I've only had like a couple bodies. But nonetheless, I got mine. I got some. And I have more lefts. I might sneak a couple people in the next couple years. Who knows? That'd be exciting.

Have you ever seen anyone get injured before during pregame like that? I saw Joe Green get hurt pregame. he dunked on we were in warm-up lines and he did like a threw the ball up, did a windmill and he dunked the ball so hard that his wrist

he had like a laceration on his wrist and it was like swollen and stuff and he was out for the game that's the only time in terms of like someone jumping and slipping like that no I haven't seen that yeah well Gerald Green

by the way I'm talking about dunkers maybe some of the maybe the most hops I've ever seen him all that he's definitely up there him James White

remember James White James White actually works here in Minnesota He works for our team. Oh, yeah? So I see him all the time. People have no. It's crazy as I'm in the practice facility.

And Anthony Edwards is like, who's that? I'm like, James White. He's like, who's James White? I'm just like, man, you all like, these guys have no idea. They like missed that. Like YouTube and social media was right before this guy's era of like jumping from the free throw line doing twin the legs. He was like the Zach Levine obviously didn't have the game Zach had.

But in terms of jumping ability, he had Zach Levine type jumping ability. Like he would jump from the free throw throw in a twilight and do it. the legs, like just kind of ill, not, you know, you don't see tight before shit. It's just, yeah, real guys know. We know. We know. Me and you know. Yeah, flight way. Yeah, come on. Did you see Fred Van Villeat last night after the game? He, in the postgame press conference, he was like, I'm going to take the fine. I'm going to go ahead and say it. This ref sucked and kind of just aired it out. Yeah. I know you've felt that way before after a game. You probably didn't do it the way he did it. But did you see that? It's tough because in the moment of emotions

especially as a player, like anything, you take things personal. So when you see or when you feel that, you know, calls weren't going your way or they weren't right or even in your mind at the time, fair, right? That's what you feel. It's really hard to speak objectively and like say something positive about the officiating right after a game. And then you'll watch the game back and you could understand that calls could go either way,

you know, and that there was so much that could have gone right in the game or, you know, better in the game for why you won or something didn't go your way. Has officiating this year been a little bit different than usual? I do think so. I think the fishing has changed, but I don't know if it's the official's fault or if it's the way the game is wanting to be called. I don't think, I think this is a combination of not just the rest, but also the way the NBA wants the NBA to be played. More fouls, more shots, more threes, faster pace. It's extremely difficult to guard players in the NBA now. It's so funny that a lot of former players always talk about how it's so much harder to play it back in the 90s and 2000s,

when you could literally grab somebody and handcheck them with their arm. I wish I could guard the players that I guard in today's day and put a hand on them and be able to guide them with my body movements. You cannot touch anybody now. and if anybody flop, especially after a jump shot, if it's a superstar, you bet they're getting three calls. It's very difficult to compete sometimes against some of these guys in the way it's being officiated. I can understand Fred's frustration.

I think everybody does. I think the fans do. I think even the fans who aren't even in the game can watch from the outside and understand that the officiating this year has been, you know, maybe I don't want to say not the best, but it's just been different, man. Do you think that's a good thing? I'm trying not to get fine here.

No, no, for sure. Do you think it's the last two-minute report, do you think that's been a good thing? For afterwards, they said, you know, we missed this call, we did that, or is that just kind of solid? I don't know what that point is. What difference does it make?

It doesn't change anything. It doesn't do anything. It doesn't do anything. Yeah. What really, what really bothers me is when they review, when they review a call, and they still get it fucking wrong. That happens all the time.

They'll review the call. They'll see, they'll go in the booth looking through a camera at like 10 different angles and still make the call wrong. It's frustrating. I'm getting frustrating talking about it right now. You can see it. You might want to switch topics before I get like fine here.

I don't even want to get into that. I also think that there's a lot of young officials right now. And, you know, that's also there's a learning curve with that. We just talked about it with basketball players and how they have to learn their stripes. And I think the same thing with officials, the younger they are, sometimes the harder they are to talk to. Just because they're kind of short-tempered and they have something to prove. So I think it's a bond. I think we got a lot of young officials

that still need to grow just as young players do so. Hopefully it gets better. I try not to focus on it because you just have no control. You can't even talk about it. It's like talking about the mafia. You know, they'll find you or come for you. I don't even want that smoke right now.

So that's the last thing I need. You're superheated right now. Speaking of people getting heated, did you see Kendrick Perkins and J.J. Redick go after it on ESPN the other day. and it was about Yokic and voters being racist. Well, yeah, that's a hell of a card to play for Perk, considering that like 98 or 99% of former MPs have been black.

I don't, I don't, I don't really know about that one. I guess his point is when they do get a good white player, I say why he's foreign, but whatever, of the skin color white, that they, I think his point is, I don't want to put words in his mouth, is that it's automatic or they run with it. And people felt the same. These are the same type of motions that we got when Steve Nash went twice over Kobe, by the way.

This is the same type of stuff that people were saying then. But, I mean, come on, man. Yokic is dominating the NBA for the past three, four years. Is it really out of pocket to have him as one of the front runners for being an MVP? No. Do I think he's the only answer to being an MVP? No, I don't. I think Joel Embed has every right.

Jason Tatum has every right. And Janus has every right to feel like the NBA. All four of them. Jason Tatum, Jason, maybe the Celtics had the best record, I feel like now,

the Bucks have the best record. They're like three games behind. They're like three games behind, man. I know, and I just don't know. I think it's definitely between Janice, Joel, and Yokic.

It's been the same three for the past five years. My only issue is, if Yokic goes, you know, he three repeats, what are we going to say 10 years down the road

when, you know, this guy won three straight MVP's, but he has never mentioned when we say who is the best player in the NBA right now? Never. I've heard KD. I've heard Steph after the last year's finals. Definitely heard Janice, Joel.

I've never heard anyone say, yeah, the best player in the NBA is Yokic. And he's going to win three straight MVPs without ever being the best player in the NBA. That's how you get, by the way, that's how you get when you look back, why did Kobe only win one MVP? Why did Shaq only win one MVP? How did LeBron only get four?

Stuff like this. You fall, like, sometimes you've got to give it to the best player. I don't know. What do you think? I agree in some of, aspects. You take Yokage up to Nuggets. They're not even in the, they'd be a lottery team.

Same could be said for Joe. Same could be said for Yonis. I do think that that award could go either way to any three of them. I mean, all three of them deserve the award. It's really tough. I'd probably go with, because Yolkich is one, two, I personally would probably give it to

Joel Embed. Just for the fact that he's dominated the NBA as well, just as much as Yokage to pass. However, many years and hasn't been able to get one. They're almost, what, the first seeded in the east, a couple of games away. They've had a remarkable season. I do believe Joel and Bede should be in the conversation for MVP, but not just in the conversation.

I think he should be the front runner. I think, uh, well, like for Yoko, everyone says Yoko should get at his team's winning the West, but the Bucks have the best record in the NBA. So wouldn't that, how come, I mean, Yonis could easily be it too. I mean, Janus is, but I think all three of them are there. I think that's Perks' point. He's like, why are y'all just such a scratch-off, just automatic Yokage MVP when you have two guys that are having just as good a seasons, if not better, and their team's records are just as good if not better. Well, Yolkich is averaging a triple double.

But I thought years ago, we decided triple doubles where everyone gets a balance. It is. It's not impressive when Russ does it. Look what you guys. By the way, look what you guys have. That's what people say, by the way. The other day, Janice had to miss a fake shot or whatever at the end of the game just to get a triple double. Because we're over here praising that Yokic averages the triple double. Now Yonis has to get in the mix and try to get a triple double to get some votes here. That was crazy.

Shout out to Ricky Davis, by the way. You was crazy as I saw Ricky Davis today. Yeah, really? I didn't recognize because he was bald. And I remember rookie with like the zigzag braids. You know, my pops coached him in Boston for a little bit. And I remember seeing him, I'm like, what's up, man? And then I looked at him, I was like, Ricky?

He's like, what's up? I was like, what's up, bro? He came to the practice facility today to, like, watch this practice. He coaches a high school team out here, a small world. Is he from Minnesota? No, his wife's from here, and they moved a bit down here, and he got a job coaching, you know, some kids, which is really cool. And it was kind of cool to connect with him for a little bit.

That was a felt like he was like, the last time I saw you, man, he's like, you were like running around the practice facility, like fifth, fourth grade. I was like, yeah, no, that's crazy. It's a crazy world. Just to finish that conversation because I don't want to get too far away from it. Who has your vote?

You said Joel has your vote? I would give it to Joel this year. I think Joel Embedge should be MVP. But I am not under this, I'm not under the assumption that like if Yokage wins, something's wrong or something's flawed or like. Because this is his best season out of the last three. And he's won the MVP the last two years and he's having a better year this year.

Yeah. So it's tough. I think this might be the toughest year to pass it up. Yeah, I don't, I'm not the biggest. You know, I also just don't care, man. I never care about the MVP. I never care about the awards, man.

A lot of it's just dependent on how the usage of a player. It doesn't mean a player is the best in the NBA. It really doesn't. If you ask me who's the best part in the NBA right now, I still would say Steph or Katie. They're not in the race for the MVP. You know, I, you know, Yokoj also has to get past the second round. You know what I mean?

Like, Joe Deed has to go to. to the finals, you know. Janice is the only one that's been there and done it and succeeded. There's a lot of variables that go into this. You know, who should win, you know, what pressures are on all three of them in the postseason. You know, even J.T. got his team to the finals last year. I don't know, man. Who do you have winning?

I have no problem with any of the three winning it. I just wanted to go against the Yokic thing for a second. See how you felt about it. But let's take a break. And when we get back, we'll talk about Dylan Brooks and Draymond Green's beef. So I know you saw the Dylan Brooks, Draymond Green Beach. I did. I love it.

Draymond on his podcast last night went off. What do you, whose side are you on? Are you on a side? No, because neither or do I really care for in terms of like their comments. I don't think either of them were right about their comments. I don't like what Dylan said about Draymond.

And I personally am not a fan of what Draymond said about Dylan. You know, anytime, sometimes words can be so sharp and so, too much that it could actually have an effect of a man's pockets or how ways people look at somebody. And I think when Dylan opened that door, you put Draymond on any other team, he's not going to do well, he's not this, he's not that,

he's overrated, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, can't shoot, can't drip. Everybody says this stuff about Draymond, we know that. He's not a high offensive scoring talent. This is, that's not where he gets his, that's not where his impact is made. saying that in a contract year for him is definitely going to spark a feeling. And obviously, when you heard Draymond's response, his resume is so decorated

that someone like that, of course, would feel so offended. And then for him to turn around and do the wrong thing exactly what Dylan did, which I felt was wrong, because Dylan was wrong, and say, you know, the reason why Memphis would never be in a championship contention is no, you know, don't look any further than that idiot. That, I mean, that's, the both I just think cross the line. First off, if you either or have something to say to each other, say it on the court, man, just keep it on the court, bro.

I'm not with the whole let's go on our platform and just talk crazy about the other to the point where it's so disrespectful, could like even seek into somebody's pockets being less. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, I'm not, I just, I don't, I wouldn't a fan of it. I love that there is a rivalry before, I don't like saying rivalry between the two teams because one's far superior in the other one, but there is a lot of animosity between two teams, those teams. And it seems like Memphis has that with a lot of teams,

whether it's the Lakers, whether it's, you know, our team. It's definitely something with the Warriors. And I think the Warriors just don't like how Memphis feels about themselves and how they walk around with their chest out. I think they don't like that. You obviously saw Clay. Clay had the best clip of the entire season when he shot that mid-er, range shot or a three-point or I forget which one it was over Dylan Dylan falls backwards on

his ass and Clay is literally shuffling for like five to ten feet next to him just talking that is that's that's what I like though I would rather it be that right direct than it be within it does feel I agree they cross the line and when people cross the line and any kind of argument whether it's two friends that you know and they cross the that line and it gets a little weird where they say those things that you can't take back. It is, it does get a little nasty. I don't like that. Yeah, both of them got like a little too nasty, man.

Like that, you would never hear of that guy who played for another team. He sucks. Can't do this, this, this, this. And then this guy's called him an idiot. He's, he's the reason the, the, the championship run starts when they get rid of him. Like, that stuff's just like, it just seemed a little too much for me both ways. When you're, I just didn't really like it either side. When you're Dylan Brooks, when you're Dylan Brooks or whoever, and you start kind of a

beef and you say these things about someone, should you make sure that maybe your resume is better than that other person? I don't know. No. Draymond's instantly going to look at him and say, well, okay, so for example, Dylan Brooks, he hangs his hat on defense, and that's what he is. Draymond Green is

multiple defensive player to the winner. So you're over here saying, this guy's not this, this guy's not that. Everything you're trying to beat for this team, Draymond paved the way almost for you to be that the way he is with the Warriors and his defensive effort. Dylan's a better score. Dylan's definitely more of a score forward player, though.

Draymond only gets this rap or slack because offensively skill-wise, it's not high in terms of just two areas, his dribbling and scoring. And that bothers people who look at him because he's obviously like a highly touted guy, All-Star this, this, this. He's probably going to be a first, probably a Hall of Famer. And some guys are like, man, that guy can't even play. If he went on that team on the Warriors, and you put him on another team where he's,

not surrounded by the greatest shooters of all time. What can he really do? To Draymond's point, at the end of the day, there's a million guys that you could put in Draymond's role, and they would not have the impact Draymond has. Draymond is tailor made to a team, but that's no different than 99% of the NBA. I mean, we've talked about this on this podcast before. What Dylan said doesn't make sense because I don't know where he would be on another team. Everybody in the NBA is situational except the top 0.1% of the NBA. So, I mean, him saying that just didn't really mean much to me because I'm just like, whoa, I mean, there's a lot of teams

Dremont can play for that he'd have a huge impact for. There are probably are teams that Dremont would play for where he'd be bad. I know this because there's teams that I've played for where I've been really good and then there's teams that I've played for and the situation is not really meant out for me to do anything and I haven't played my best. Like, there's situations, everything. So I don't think that's a slack on Dremont. And Dremont doesn't hang his hat on scoring or shooting.

So like people saying that stuff about him, it's just, it doesn't resonate or mean anything because Dremont isn't out there to hit threes. Why would he? He has the two best three-point shooters ever on his team. He's out there to get them open, find them, control the defense, and he's like the spirit animal. He's the vocal spirit of that team. I mean, that's just what he has. So that's what his impact is. Again, that's why we already both are in a unanimous, a unanimous dissentual agreement that they both are wrong. They both fucked up. They shouldn't have said that stuff.

And he's definitely going to make the Hall of Fame. And people are not going to like it. But Ben Wallace just made the Hall of Fame. And his number is not even, it's not even five, ten, and one. It's not enough for debate. Dremont will 100% away besides the fact that he's won rings. He's won four of them. Yeah.

It's a lot of fame. People are going to be upset about it. Yeah. That's just people not knowing basketball. He's not only was the, uh, that he went for rings. They wouldn't have won without him in some of them. You know, like Draymond was huge. In fact, everyone likes to talk about how Draymond is overrated.

but then are so quick to turn the script when they talk about LeBron's Cavs team winning. Well, if Draymond would have got suspended that one game, the Warriors would have won. Well, I thought Draymond wasn't that important. I thought Draymond couldn't, I thought he wouldn't a big, you know what I mean?

So it's just people like to pick and choose with Draymond. That's a really good point. But I will say LeBron did have 41 when Draymond didn't play and then the next game in game six, when Draymond played, LeBron had 41. But I do agree that people. Do you say that all that. That's a quick something for you there.

I just wanted to say, Because people do say that a lot. In 2016, it's one of my favorite NBA seasons ever. So I do, obviously, people, that's a good point. People talk out of both sides of their mouth there. Dremont isn't.

I do like, again, I'm all for a little bad blood in the NBA, a little drama. I love a little animosity between two players. Then you loved Luca and Devin Booker getting into it. I love that. I love that those two guys got into it. I just don't like when it spills over off the court.

If you want to say something subtle, like what Luca said, like, listen, if you want to talk, wait until that, you know, don't wait until three seconds that we get something quick like that. That's cool. You know, Devin says his little thing, whatever, that's cool. I don't have no problem with the way those guys are handling their beef. It seems like they get it out on the court, no problem.

I don't like when people are, like, going on rants talking about people. It's like after the game when they asked me about Mo Obama. I didn't have anything negative to say about the guy. I don't have anything negative to say about the guy. I don't have anything negative. I don't wish him any ill will. We had a moment that didn't go well when they asked about me. I said one little smart comment and I kept to push it.

You know what I mean? Like, we both people went to our social media and said stuff, and I took it down because I felt like it was in the wrong. And my people were telling me, yo, I know you feel a certain way, but like this isn't the right way to do it. And even that was in a moment. I was like, all right, you know what? If I had to say anything or if I need to say anything, I'll say it to the person itself. And usually within a couple of days, you feel stupid. And you realize you would never say these things to that guy because it's not even worth it.

So I'm not the biggest fan of them both going out of their way to talk shit about each other, especially to the level that they did. where you're like really dissecting someone's game and talking about how they're not good. Like, bro, just keep it, just keep hooping, man. Yeah, the Warriors just got step back. They played a night. They played a night, right? Yeah, yeah, those two played a night, yeah.

That'll be interesting. But the Warriors just got step back. They're trying to figure things out, make this playoff, you know, playoff run. And the last thing they need is more drama. You know what I mean? I just feel like it just adds more negativity to what's already going on over there.

Yeah. And I don't know if you saw when Dramon didn't get the ball from Jordan Poole and he turned around. Yeah, that was crazy. Oh, it's crazy. Because that was a moment of not just one play. That is a built up of something of frustration. You don't just like quit on a play and walk away like that.

It's almost as if that he punched him a few months ago or something. I'm just saying, there's just so much going on over there. Let's just be honest. I can't wait. One day we'll find out everything. Yeah. When they do a 30 for 30 on the Warriors or last dance. There will be a Jordan pool.

There'll be a Jordan pull segment. Steph throwing them out. Yeah, there'll be a whole segment on that. When they do the last dance warriors on their dynasty and what they've been able to build, there'll be a little segment, I guess, on that. We'll get to get all the T. Because right now it's all speculation.

We don't know what's going on. They keep everything pretty zip-lock tight over there. I don't have any inside of that. Elsewhere around the NBA, the Knicks have been on fire. The East, I feel like obviously the Bucks and the Celtics are the two best teams. Sixers are right there. What team, out of the United States,

these teams would you be more afraid of the play? Out of the Knicks, Heat, Cavs, or Sixers? Sixers. Sixers. Why? They have the best. It's not even close. Okay. Then Heat Knicks, Cavs. Who would be the most afraid to play in a playoffs series? Heet Knicks Cavs. I think out of those three teams, the best team is the Knicks.

Out of those three. I haven't seen a lot. And I've always, I love, like, the foundation and culture of Miami. It's always been a place I've always wanted to play. I just feel like I'd fit in there. But I just don't know this year of their team. I haven't seen like the same Miami team that we've seen in previous years. So I don't know if I'd put them up there.

The cabs are extremely talented. I just, I don't know. I like New York's home presence and how they play at the Massachusetts Square Garden. I like with how well they're playing, I'd give them the slight edge of a Cleveland. So I would say out of those three teams between Cleveland, Miami, and New York,

I said the Knicks have the best team. With that being said, neither of them will beat the Philly or Boston or Milwaukee for sure in a seven-game series. So all this is just really obsolete. I mean, I'm happy that the Knicks have a good team. I think it's better when the Knicks are good in basketball, just like with the Lakers.

Everyone loves it when the Knicks are good. That's good. I mean, the Knicks are good in basketball. The Lakers are on its way back with some of the pieces they've been able to acquire. They look a lot better. I think the Knicks are a good team. Do I think they're just better than the other three

or the top three of the East? No, I just don't even think it's close. I really don't. I see a first round or second round exit for all those teams. I mean, at the end of the day, the East, everyone knows.

I'm not saying anything out of pocket here. It's either going to be the Bucks, the Sixers, or the Celtics. And right now the favorite would probably be Celtics or Bucks with Philly right there behind and third. I mean, that's just the way it goes.

And in the West, no one really fucking knows. No one knows. The West is wide open. The East is a little bit more top heavy. I don't know who's going to come out the West. What's Phoenix going to be like? how are their stars going to play together in the playoffs?

More importantly, who's going to step up as role players for them? They gave a lot up for Kevin. How is Yokage and that team going to perform after being the top seat in the West in the playoffs? How far would they go? How will Jamal, Michael, play in the playoffs? Every team has questions. Kyrie, Luca, us, you know, what happens?

Is Carl coming back? When Carl comes back? How well is he going to fit in with Rudy? How well is Aunt going to play again in the playoffs? You know, how deep can we go in a run? I feel like there's questions with every single team in the West where the East, you know exactly who the Southics are, you know exactly who the Bucks are, you know exactly who Philly is.

Where in the West, I feel like you have a lot of teams really still trying to figure it out, which is why you see the third seed through 11 is decided between two to three games and all of us are like barely 500. It's not like we're having like monumental seasons as a team. Like every other game we lose or win, lose or win. it's been a really up and down year for the Western Conference. And I think no one is clear cut coming out of the West. Like if Yolkich, if the Nuggets lost second round,

would this be huge upset? Like, no, bro, if they lost a Phoenix, if they lost a Golden State who's going to be a 70th? What if they play Golden State in the first round? They can easily lose and nobody can say it's an upset. It's the Warriors won last year. They have the same team back minus a couple pieces. I don't even, you know what I mean?

So I just, I really don't know everything in the West. is dependent upon seating. Everything's dependent upon seating. Who matches up with who and who has the best path to the finals? Like the nuggets could end up with the first spot playing the Warriors first round. That'd be insane. Even if they played the Lakers, if they played the Lakers first round, and 80's healthy, and LeBron's healthy, and DeLo's healthy.

That team's like fully loaded. That is not a team that you'd want to play first round in the playoffs. It's like LeBron James in the playoffs, fully healthy with 80 and that whole team. And they got momentum behind them. and like you said, the league's a better place with the Knicks. The league is damn sure a better place with the Lakers when they're good. You're playing eight on five every night.

I can promise you that. When you play the Lakers, you're not getting any damn calls. Like that's not the easiest series to be it. So I don't know. I don't know who's coming out the West. It's anybody's game. Last week we talked about a couple things. I got a lot of good feedback on you being annoyed with people that double-dip and drinking after one another.

I want to introduce this segment. Could we do Austin's pet pee? Is there anything else that really gets on your nerves that you might want to air out really quick? Jesus. Because I think that's my favorite Austin. My favorite Austin is an annoyed Austin. And when you start telling me when you go off about something that really bothers you. I mean, I have a lot of pet peeves, man.

A lot of things bother me. I don't even know where to start on this one. You know what I want you to do? I want you to throughout the week. I just have like a write it in your notes and your phone. Like something that bothers you. And then that way you can just introduce it on the pod. my my fiance my fiance plays the worst fucking music that you could ever her her taste of music is so bad i will give her this

she has a couple artists that we like both can actually listen to together and enjoy but like when she has the ox i don't know what it does to my mood but it just like i just it drains my energy man i i just i don't like her music at all she just doesn't at a party bro you give her the ox and you're really rolling the dice there with the energy of the party uh she's dead that's definitely a pet people of mine. She just keep her the fuck away from the ox. Do you think, do you think it's a, she's a little younger than you?

She's a lot, she's a lot younger than me. And it's just one of the, listen, there's a lot of benefits of dating someone a lot younger than you. There's a lot of, you know, there's the other side of it.

That's definitely on the other side. Some of the stuff that she, so it's a generation thing. It's absolutely a generation thing. I'm, you know, it's a Saturday night. It's 11 o'clock. I'm playing a little bit of T-Pain,

a little J-Rul. She's getting the vibes right. Everybody's happy. and she throws on, you know, a little, little, you know, little ducky. I don't, I don't know who she's playing, bro. And I try to enjoy and listen to it, and the music is just, I can't. I just can't, that's my biggest weakness in music, I would say, is current hip-hop.

I can listen to old school hip-hop. I can listen to almost anything else. Definitely 80s, 90s, R&B guy. That's my favorite. I can do current hip-hop. I can do current hip-hop. I like current hip-hop. There's just a line.

There's just a line. There's a line. There's a line. It's not, it's not, I just need to listen to music that's a little bit relatable. That's why everyone, whether you love Drake or not, let's be honest. The guy was talking about relatable things. And I need, an R&B is relatable to everybody. Some of this hip-hop, I just can't, I don't feel comfortable in good faith,

even wrapping some of those lyrics in the car. I just, it wouldn't even come, it wouldn't look right coming out of my mouth. I don't mind it. I also have to listen to it because I'm in the locker room every day, and this is what's played before games. But they'll play stuff and I'll start down in my head. And they love in the locker room when I nod my head because like, oh, also likes it.

Also likes it. A lot of the stuff they play off like, yo, what is this? But then sometimes they play stuff. I like a lot of the new artists, but there's a line. And there's also just a mood to a,

to an environment that you should stick in. Yeah, man, I guess is that a pet peeve of mine? I got a lot of pet peeves, bro. I don't shake hands with people unless I really have to or if I feel like if it's the benefit of me,

I know that's a sick thing to say. But I just germs are so, everywhere. I'm not a really big fan of that. I don't understand the point of following someone on Instagram. I have a question for you. You walk up to a group of six people. Everyone's like, what's up, Austin? Do you have to go and shake six people's hands? No, no, no, no, no. That's the key. Can we just do a one size fits all waves? The key to that, the key to that is the key to the getting out of that is to assert yourself immediately open happy hands. Six people are in a group, right?

You walk up to them. Hey, what's up everybody? What's up everybody? There's no hand. Now there's not even an expectation to get a personal handshake. Because if you do one, if you shake one of, if you shake one person, you got to go through. You got to go through. And then now you're that guy.

How you doing? My name is us. How you doing my name is on? How you do it? I don't, I don't ever want to be that guy. You know what I mean? Just do a. It turns into.

it turns into like an adult duck duck goose i don't know what's everyone around the room just shaking everybody's hand it's i hate it now i feel like the guys i already shook or watching me shake that it's it's too if you say what's up everybody or hello everybody right out the gate what's up everybody how you doing how you doing how you doing how you doing it lets everybody know okay he's introduced himself he doesn't we're not even going to go that and that's and the hugs goodbye hugs goodbye can i just say bye to the entire again but this is something that you are pick and choose about because if it's a girl that you're attracted to if it's a pretty girl wants to give you hug, you're going to lean in there and give one of those long ones where you embrace them.

You embrace them. You might even get a little whisper in the ear. Oh, okay. I don't think that. If I'm leaving a place and I want to give someone a special goodbye, I'll sneak that in. But I'm not going to go around hugging everybody goodbye. As a matter of fact, I usually Irish goodbye. I get out of there.

I don't like Irish goodbyes, man. I don't like when someone comes up. I will text the homeowner and say, thank you for having me. Let me know if I owe you anything for the food and drinks. there's no way I'm saying by to a million people. No, I would say. And then they try to get you to stay. I would say by to the person who's starting the function and leave.

Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. There you go. There you go. But then they'll make you stay. Those are the guys that definitely... Have I ever made you stay?

Well, I think I'm crucial to any party you're throwing. If I leave, the vibe leaves. So I think, yeah, you'd make me stay. I will say this. You are a vital piece to the parties I throw up. I appreciate that. as long as I keep getting that invite, especially to Miami during All-Star Break,

then I don't understand a point of someone following someone on Instagram and then continually comment negative stuff. Do you ever like go on your Instagram or like someone will comment something negative and you'll click their page and they follow you? I'm like, so you follow me to talk negative about it? I would never understand that. And also on the flip side, actually, I don't even know either way. Going on someone's page you don't even follow or don't even know.

I don't even understand. Like the comfort of people. have just like talking to you especially if they follow you it's just like i don't i don't even get that what is that is that like have you ever made have you ever made a fenceda a fake instagram to snoop around on instagram or no because it just sucks if you want to see someone's instagram story when they look to see who viewed it it'll say austin rivers with like a blue verified check and maybe you want to see someone's story without having your your name in there has that ever happened to no i don't have fintzda i mean a lot of people have FNSTA for two reasons to move around in a way that we both know what I'm talking

about. Or B, people just have it just so they could post stuff to their friends only because they don't want it to be on their page because they don't want to be judged, whether they're out with friends drinking or a lot of times it's just funny memes. People just see stuff and post it on their story, but it's not something you want to be associated with your brand or with yourself. You know what I mean? So that's usually what FINDA was originated for. Or if, you know, trying to talk to girls, whatever, whatever, like people go on FNsta. Like, that's That's like a normal thing. I don't have Finsta.

I know everyone has one. You know, my friends have it. I don't know. My fiance has it. I don't have one. I don't need one. I don't want one. I have no reason to be able.

Do you have a song, speaking of music, that you play, that automatically puts you in a good mood? What is your happy song? I don't know if I have one. I think it's because every time if I do have a song that makes me happy, if I listen to it in a bad moment of time, now that song is, So now it's it's it's it's part of that moment. Do you know what I'm saying? I can take a happy song.

It could end up in a bad bad, you know what I mean? It could turn into a not happy song because now that song I remember the last time I listened to this, I remember I was down bad. Now I'm thinking of that time again. You understand what I'm saying? But you love G unit. I want to get to know you. I've heard you play that a million times.

So that's got to be a happy song for you. G unit, I want to get to know you. Is a sleeper. It's a sleeper. It's a sleeper song at any vibe. You play that at like any type of vibe with a lot of women around. It's a very smooth song. Shout out to Lloyd Banks who kills it wherever you are.

I, uh, yeah. I'm a big early 2000s guy. You know that. Yeah, this is actually a true story. One time Courtney Lee, who was playing for the Knicks at the time, he asked me to, he said, hey man, you're really good at, you know, 90s R&B and all that stuff. Can you put together a big play? this 100 songs of your favorite 90s R&B songs.

So I sent it to him, didn't hear anything. I didn't know what it was for. I thought maybe it was on a date or something. I don't know. And then like the next day, he said, can you add 20 more songs to that? I was like, all right, what is this for? He goes, man, I've been DJing for the next team playing.

And they're loving it, man. They need more. So for a little while, I was ghost DJing, the New York next team playing. And I was very hyped about that when I found out I was doing that. The last time I saw you DJ was when we were at a party in L.A. And the weekend was there.

It was the most random mix of celebrities that I have ever been a part of. I remember too short was there. G. Easy was there somewhere. The weekend came with a bunch of people. Nav. Nav was in there. I remember you got so,

because you were controlling the music at this vibe. And when they walked in there, you got so uptight. I remember, you locked yourself in a bedroom, sweating. Because I remember one time I checked on you. You're making up the sweating. You were sweating.

You were absolutely a wreck. I was sweating. You were a wreck. And you were like, can I play the weekend? Can I play the weekend? Well, you think I'm doing too much? Should I play that? That's what I'm like, can I play Nabs music or does you think I'm like, am I, am I

dick riding? If I play his music, like what about? That's, that was you. Okay. So this is what I, first of all, I'm at, I was at the party to have a good time. All of a sudden, I'm assigned work. I'm DJing, which is fine. I usually have some go-to,

play this, I could, you know, just let it run. When you see musicians go in there, especially guys like the weekend, you got to start thinking, okay, can I play Drake? Is he beefing with Drake? What if you play a song and the guy's geez, he doesn't like it? And then I don't want to play their music. And it is actually kind of stressful.

Who gives a book? They're at our party, though. They were at our party. I had to, lock in and play just the right stuff. And I would play a song, peek my head out of the room, see people were kind of viking, rapping along to it. I remember I played some Tupac and people really liked it,

very safe pick. Assigned to work, by the way, is comedy. My night, true or false was my night ruined? Yeah, it was. You were having a good time

until those people came and you got stressed out. I don't even remember what happened to you after that. What would you play if there were guys in there? Just playing music that everyone likes. They're either going to nod to it or not.

How many times do I go somewhere and see a basketball player or an artist or someone that I personally might not like. I got to deal with it. It's not like I'm like, yo, DJ cut that shit off. You know what we're gonna do here? Like, what you're talking about?

Do you know what the worst thing you ever could hear when you're DJing? Maybe even like silently DJing, no one knows you're the one playing the music. When someone randomly goes, yeah, who's playing the music? And you know it's you and they're mad or they have requests.

It's the worst feeling. I just give up the sticks immediately. I'm like, I'm not a big request guy. Like if I got the ox, just leave me the fuck alone. You've already given me dogs, if you want to request and why don't you take the responsibility of playing your songs?

It's another pet peeve. You keep going now. The growing list of pet peeves of Austin. I do like that segment. We'll have Austin. Because I have so many of them. I'm naturally a... You're the NBA's...

I am the Larry Dave of the NBA, and there's no doubt about it. I am naturally a miserable person when it comes to a lot of different things with people do. There's a lot of things that people do that drive me fucking crazy. And I don't even know another... Like, I don't even know a nice way to see. say that. I'm not even like a, I'm a very laidback guy. I'm not a, I'm not a controversial guy. I stick in my own lane. Everybody knows I just do my own thing. I'm a loner. I have the same

friends I had since high school. With this being said, I am just one of those guys that like, I just have a standard about how things I feel should move or go. And I just see people do things continually every day the wrong way. And a lot of, a lot of this stuff bothers me. There's a lot, there's a lot of things I have. I mean, we'll get it to the next episode. So there's a, there's a, if I go into a girl's bathroom, if I'm talking to a girl and I go to a girl's bathroom and I don't see wipes, I'm out of there. First, first thing, first thing, first thing, first I'm out of there. It's a must. It's a must. And some, some goes, my, oh, what are you talking about? That is so disgusting, bro. You're using just tissue, bro? Here's a concept. Here's a concept, right? Let me put this concept.

I need to be on the lookout for wipes. Put peanut butter. put, put peanut butter. Listen, put peanut butter on your arm, grab tissue and wipe the peanut butter, right? Will your arms still smell like peanut butter? Yeah. There's no difference. There's no difference.

It's disgusting. It's disgusting. It's an automatic. I think we should all. I think we should all. Wipes are a absolute must in your bathroom. I'd like to see that you have actually storage of them. Like you have packs on top of packs that haven't been opened yet.

Like, yeah, these are packs I'm going to get in. to obviously. If I don't see wipes, I had a family emergency. I got to go. I know, listen, I know that when nature calls, you can't really time these things, but I think we should all do better at maybe timing these things. Before shower. Before shower. I'm not saying, you have to keep like a spare wipe. I don't, I don't think anybody's walking around with spare wipe. I'm saying, I'm saying you should always have at your home, for instance, I don't like to, I don't like to handle my business. anywhere but home. Like, it's really hard for me to do it. Like, I'll sit in my car with a stomach

going 80 down the freeway to make it home before I can stop at a Walgreens and I'm, and I'm in like, deep in a random Walgreens bathroom. Like, I'm not going to be that guy. But if, again, you can't control, sometimes you got to do what you got to do. But if I'm home and I don't like, but if I'm, bro, imagine dating a girl going to her, going in her bedroom and like, go to the bathroom and, like there's no wipes I'd be like do you understand what I'm saying no no listen

what I'm saying is this what I'm saying is this we should just do I need to go further to time should we try to time these things before a shower

if you're gonna go and you know it's something's gonna go down that's a good plan let's try to mix in a shower afterwards I'm just saying that's a good plan

that's a good plan if you can but sometimes you don't have time for the shower wipes are automatic thing okay

a rinse you can't give me a rinse like you go get like a washcloth and like get in there like what are you talking about? No, I mean like if you do it in your home just jump in the shower. Yeah, you can do that. I'm saying though, but I'm not I'm not asking for a thorough washdown. I'm saying a little rinse. That would be best case scenario.

That would be best case scenario. But they should still have wipes. It's just a telling sign. It's a telling sign. I need to look for wipes. It's a telling sign that when you go down there, you know, things might not be all culture. You go through medicine cabinets too? I'm not going to see what they're on.

Listen. If I see a bunch of pill bottles, if I'm at someone's house and there's 10 pill bottles on the counter, well, I like peep at one to make sure I'm not dealing with Sybil, maybe. I have a question. You and me took a sprinter from Miami to Orlando

was a four-hour ride. After 30 minutes, if we had to go to the bathroom, you were going to hold it for three hours, that is unhealthy. I wouldn't hold it for three hours. What I told you, I told you, if it's an extreme situation and I have to do what I have to do, that's fine.

It's a rare, very particular situation. And even then, Do you know what I'd stop? On the way home, I would be Googling a resort or something nearby where I know those are consistently clean seats. You know that you're going to go if you had to go to the bathroom somewhere. Yeah, you got to go, bro. I've got in all types of places. I've got in a park before.

But I'm saying. Not in a park, at a park bathroom. Phelps Park. Feltz Park. Shout at the Phelps Park. I have a question. I have a question. Do you remember when we did pull over to get pizza?

Robert, Rob Bluin. Yeah, he, he did like a random walk away from the, from everybody. He went to walk away. We all knew what he was doing.

We all knew what he went to go do. I didn't, he went to Denny's. He did it out of Denny's. Denny's. Denny's, he walked into a Denny's and did it. I don't,

I don't mind if you got to, if you would look for it, you would look for a Starbucks at least. Ugh, no. Places are packed. Can't be cleaner than a Denny's, places are packed.

You go to I hop at lunch. No one's in there. You got the whole place to yourself. You know what I'm saying? You go to Starbucks. What is that place not packed? You're going to have a 12-year-old banging on the door, and get in.

You got someone looking through the little peephole crack, you know, in the stall. You make eye contact. You make that random eye contact. You ever been handling your business and you like, this is the worst second of your life. You like see someone's eyeball like looking through the crack. It's like, yo, what's going on here? Why are we, you know, I don't, I don't want any of these situations, man.

It's the most vulnerable. It's the most vulnerable time as a man is going to the bathroom. There's not another more vulnerable, moment in your life. Think about it. There's nothing else worse that you would not rather, like there's nothing else you'd rather be doing. I don't even know if I'm saying that right. There's so many of the things you'd rather be doing than handling that business at a girl's house. That's like the worst thing you could do, bro, is take a shit at a girl's house unless it's like wifie. Like that's fucking like, especially if you're dating someone in your stomach's like,

you're like, fuck, how do I do this? All right. This is, listen, that's, that's, I've been in that situation. I'm single. I've been in that situation. I got to go. I got to go. I got a girl. I got to go. I take a shower. I turn the shower on and then I do my business. You really think that you came over there with your nice clothes on and everything and you actually believe that you're taking it. This is like me and the girl are on a sleepover situation. And just all you're doing is steaming that thing up.

The only thing, the only thing you're doing is putting a temperature on the shit. So now when they come into the bathroom after you think you need like a whole like steam and air out process for that to even work. Well, you're just hoping that she doesn't go to the bathroom right after you. It's tough. It's tough. All right, so your next game is against Brooklyn tomorrow at home. Good luck.

I love doing this pod with you and looking forward to speaking with you next week. What is up with the gavel punch that you're just like knocking back? What is that? I appreciate you, brother. Thank you, man. It's always fun getting on here and talking with you. This one was all over the place, but it was in a good way. I like that we covered a lot of different topics.

I think people have fun listening to this. I appreciate you, my guy.