The Ringer NBA Show - Summer League Shenanigans: Wemby-Mania, Scoot Henderson, and Much More

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

Logan Murdock and Tyler Parker are live from the concourse of the Thomas & Mack Center to talk through all the shenanigans that took place during the first three days of Las Vegas Summer League. They ...discuss the performances of the 2023 draft’s top three picks, the Sacramento Kings, and the many characters that showed up to this year’s summer league. Hosts: Logan Murdock and Tyler Parker Producers: Jessie Lopez and Ben Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Bill Simmons from The Ringer, and this is a podcast called The Rewatchables. We have been doing it. Really since 2017, it started with how much we love the movie Heat. We decided to structure a whole podcast with categories, most rewatchable scene. Who on the movie, Apex Mountain, what age the best? But here's the thing. If you want the full archive, you can hear them only on Spotify for free, by the way. So make sure to follow the rewatchables on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:00:28 What's popping? Welcome to a special edition. of the Ringer NBA show live Thomas and Mac. You know the voice. You know who this is. Logan Murdoch. And you know who that is, that laughter. That's my guy, Tyler Parker. Hello, hello.
Starting point is 00:00:58 This is a dream come true because I am so excited to finally pod with you. Oh, I'm so pumped up to see. I was so happy to see whenever I saw on the, I mean, I typically don't get too excited to look at Excel spreadsheets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:13 It's not something I go to if I'm trying to get the blood pumping, you know what I mean? Right. But when I saw Tyler with Logan, my heart did kind of skip a beat a little bit. I do have to say. I don't, for the record, look at spreadsheets. That's great.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I was told very late that this is going to happen. I was like, yes. Anywho, we are talking live at Thomas and Max Center in the midst of a Winbignon game. We don't know what the score is. We just see a monitor here with no score. We're just in the moment. We're just viving right now. But, Tyler, if I need to give you.
Starting point is 00:01:46 If I ask for a game and a half reaction to Wimbignana, what do you have for me? I think it's like just peaks and valleys, man. The first game, it was such an interesting, weird gym to be in because everybody was so excited. Everybody was so happy and so pumped up and so ready to see something like, this is the start of the rest of our lives. Yes. This is the new basketball has begun. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Now finally from over... This is the dawn of a new era. He has landed upon our shores and going to show us a new way. Yes. And it was weird because it didn't feel like in the gym there was any sort of like, everybody wanted him to be awesome. Yes. It was like when you hear about those like casting directors and they're like,
Starting point is 00:02:38 no, you don't understand. The room, everybody wants you to be the exact right person for it. We want it to be. them. We want them to do awesome. Everyone's pulling for them. That was how I felt in the gym. Like, everybody was so, anytime he touched the ball. Yeah. It was shoot it. Yes. Like, it was like AAU stuff. We want Wimbi chance.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It was crazy. I was, because I was sort of expecting some anima, or like, if not animosity, like, a little bit like, okay, like, let's see what you got. Okay, now you're here. Let's see. But it didn't even feel that way? It was like, people were like, didn't you feel like people were like, hooked up to watch them? The only comparison that I have, and I was in the building for this was when Zion had his debut in 2019. And there was a palpable buzz, right?
Starting point is 00:03:18 The only difference is there was a different kind of buzz for this win bignana thing. And I just, I watched the first half downstairs at Thomas and Mac, and it was similar there, right? Yeah. And we had just talked about it on the fan dual show that's going to come out in eight weeks from now with Tate Fraser. And, but we were talking about just, just the vibe that was going on. And, like, he seemed a lot more comfortable in the second game. For sure.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Then he did in the first game. There was a lot of nerves in the first game. He definitely belonged to be there. In the first game where there was like a lot of indecision, and not to say there was an indecision in the second game, but in the first game when there was a lot of indecision, you could see like, yo, if this pass goes through. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Oh, my. Even when he got dunked on, which was the highlight of the other young man's life at this moment. Guy Jones and his Marcus Smart Hair flew through the air. Exactly. but that goes back to the nervousness from Wimbignana because if he just, he read the play perfectly.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah, he was there. If he just trusts his instincts, that's going the other way. Yeah. And this time, in the first half that I saw, like he was just making shots that were ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:04:29 He made one shot across the lane. I think I don't know if it was a three-pointer because I was on the other side of the thing, but it was just, it was for two seconds, it was basketball and Nirvana. He's going to, what's so fun about him is,
Starting point is 00:04:41 in this second game, there were a couple different, like, of those Bobon moments where he doesn't jump, but he dunks on someone. And so it's, but like, Wimbun Yama has more juice than Bobon does. And so there's like, there was an aggression to some of the dunks. Like, he is, like, slight for sure. He's skinny as hell and he's going to have to beef up. But he's not like, he knows how to go to the rim once he's there. Like, he's not, he's not, he's not fading really.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I was fascinated to see, like, the sneaky dunks from him. He cut, like, the guys didn't know, like, oh, he's a little bit further away from the rim, and he took a pause, so maybe he's worried about my physicality. It's a little quirky. A little weird, yeah. And then all of a sudden, just he, like, leaps right up and just punches it on you. And I think that that's, I think he's going to catch a, Like, he'll get caught for sure himself.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Like somebody's going to catch him early and it'll be a big, big deal. But I think that he's going to catch a lot of dudes for sure defensively. But I think also offensively, these little quick hitter dunks that are just like kind of face-to-face, nose to notes. One of the biggest things that I got in this boat well for the NBA is that every room that when Bignana walks into, he is the most interesting person in the building. Yeah. And what I mean by that, like, Fat Joe was at the game tonight, right? The game before that, his first ever NBA sanctioned game on American soil.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was there on one baseline. And Jerry West is on the other one. And they're both kind of wanting to meet them and stuff. Yeah. This was the first game also from a media perspective where it was hard to get on the floor. If you were on the floor to start the game, you better stay where you are at. Oh, you had to have a seat. I mean, like, I went just because I, there,
Starting point is 00:06:40 There's a piece that I wrote for the site that'll go up tomorrow that's kind of about the Wimby debut and stuff like that. And I kind of wanted to see what it was going to be like up top during all of this. And by this, the game, the 2 o'clock tip that was a Bucks Nuggets game, by the start of the fourth quarter of that game, a whole other game to go between the Wimbidiamma thing, the lower bowl was basically. That's what I got here.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I got here three hours early. I was sitting next to Mike Wright, who was the guy, who's the guys you guys who used to follow for the Wimbignana train. He's based out of San Antonio Works at NBA.com. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I sat next to him, and it was really like, I'm not leaving the space until after Wimbinga's debut. And a lot of people had that notion, right? To the point where when it was time for Wimidiana to play, there was the overflow at Cox Pavilion. And then it was like, oh, my God, we have to get to see Wimbabena.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And they got closed at the gates. Wow. It was lit. That's, like, I mean, it's the games were sold out I think today and tomorrow because of, I mean, it's, I've never seen a summer league like this.
Starting point is 00:07:50 What is your, like, because you said you were in the room for Zion. What was, and you said that the energy was different. And I experienced like, it was like bustling in the, during the warmups in like a playoff game kind of way before the Wimby game. What was the. difference in the Zion atmosphere? How was that different? Well, I think
Starting point is 00:08:15 the biggest thing is that we had seen Zion state side already and we had seen a full season of Zion. It was just a matter of this is his arrival in the NBA. And we're going to see how it goes. Now that Kevin Knox, when he took the ball from Kevin Knox got a great reaction. But I think it was just
Starting point is 00:08:33 just the mystery of Wimbaniw from another country. He's 7-3. Totally. You know, it was like we're, all of our eyes were fixated. It was like, it was like if, like, any performer you want to think of the greatest of all time, it was like if Whitney Houston was like about to come on to the floor. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And you knew she was coming. So you see that your eyes are already fixated on the tunnel. I think my eyes are fixated on the tunnel. Like, I don't even remember the last game before the Spurs game. Yeah. But I remember my eyes being on the tunnel the last four, last four minutes of the game. It was so funny because like, and if, and if, If the guy said this in the show after that, after the, after the first one,
Starting point is 00:09:12 but Yama game, I apologize. But that was the, that was the, that was the, that was like Scoot and Amen playing against each other that game. Yeah. And also, yeah. That Scoot game, we're going to get to that in a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to talk about Scoot.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Let's talk about Scoot for sure. But scoots a dude, but go ahead. Scoot's a dude. Scoot's a dude. All caps. The, but not in, not in the slang way. I warm in all caps in a, you know, a literary sense. You know what I mean, really establish.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I would never say cap in that sort of way because I know that I like own too many like dad jeans. You know what I mean. I don't think I could say cap. You can say whatever you want to say. Can you say that? You have to own it. All right. I'll own it. Let's talk about Scoot Henderson. I don't know why you're laughing, but let's talk about Scoot Henderson. Who was because I was in Sacramento to watch Brandon Miller his first game, his debut. And the difference between Brandon Miller and everyone else is it just doesn't seem at this point he just meets the moment. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Scoot got on the floor and was like, this is my team right here, but also this is going to be my organization. And I'm setting a tone because I remember and I know this is like, obviously like the easiest comparison. I was thinking about Dame Lillard's first summer league. Sure. Where he was the star of that summer league. I think Scoot would have been there in that same level
Starting point is 00:10:43 if Wimbignana just didn't exist. Right, right, right. Because there was a couple plays where he starts down the floor. He shakes the fuck out of somebody, hits a jumper, and it was like, no, this is what I'm supposed to do. I'm not surprised about this. I was talking to somebody even just like to juxtapose that with Brandon Miller. Brandon Miller is fading away.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything, it just seems like it's a fade away. Maybe that's why, like, Jordan liked him because he saw a lot of themselves in it, right? just to fade away and everything. Scoot was very intentional on every single play. And that's what I said during the Fandul show that's going to come out whenever it comes. Probably next year.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Next year. For Christmas. Catch it for Christmas, 2025. But I said the exact same thing. But it was just so many intentional movements to Scoot. And that's what I think about, I like about him. And what I was going to say, what I said on the Fan Duel show was, I do think that the case for Scoot having the rookie of the year,
Starting point is 00:11:37 is that he is going to be so ready to just be that guy in a way that Wimby is going to have a lot of growing pains. He is going to go, Scoot is going to go full go at all times. Yes. And if he plays enough games, I think he's probably going to be looking at here. I love the word intentional. That's what you're exactly right, Logan. That's what it, like, there's a, there's, like, he plays like,
Starting point is 00:12:07 I'm supposed to dominate. I'm supposed to be out here, and I'm the dude. I'm the guy out here. That's how he conducts himself. And I don't, like, I don't, I don't watch Scoot ever and think, like, you're in over your head.
Starting point is 00:12:29 You know what I mean? Like, there is a, um, the attitude that's there mixed with the physical, like, You got to see him in person. Like, he just is, like... That's what everyone says.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It really is, like, the... There's, like, a force with which he moves, like, not just, like, even when he's running. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of dudes jump with force. A lot of dudes are, like, you know, like, if it's some situation on defense, like, they're really moving. Like, when he's running down the floor, the guy's, like, going as hard as possible. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And there's something about that that, like, not all young dudes are that way, not all dudes in the league are that way. But there's like a consistency to his, like, I'm going to dominate all the time. Like, it's going to be in every possession thing. That's like the vibe you get off of him. And those are the guys that, you know, like can. And you don't want to say change cultures because obviously dames, you know, like. It's a continuation of culture.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It's a continuum. Like, it's to have a guy at the point of attack like that. Like, that's, it's just huge for everything. And you can tell that dudes, like, playing. Yeah. But it's just interesting because, like, I always think about, you know, what it takes to be a franchise star. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 That's, like, that's kind of my project every time in my mind to think of, like, is this guy going to be, is he going to carry a franchise? Could he do it? Yeah. Could he do it? And the intangibles are you have to be, one, you have to play hard. Yeah. you have to have intentional scoring, assist, and rebound
Starting point is 00:14:11 because there's a difference between intentional box scores. Yeah. And we see this all the time, the empty box scores. You see this guy, and he has his 28, 8, and 8, but his team lost by 30. You've got to be able to hold people accountable on every level, about everything. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:26 To the point where it's kind of annoying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, think about all the greats, right? Kobe, kind of annoying. For sure. LeBron, kind of annoying. Yes, yes, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like, Michael Jordan, very annoying. Yes. Scoot has the potential to be constructively annoying. For sure. For sure. Scoot is... Like, I don't know if Brandon Miller is constructively annoying at this point. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And I don't know that... Sorry, Kate. Yeah, I love you too, Tate. I don't know that, I don't know that, like, there's an intimidation factor with Scoot, right? But there's like a, like, um, I'm here. now and you're going to deal with me no matter what. And like you say, like with Miller, there does just seem to be like a little bit of fading.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And the thing with Miller, I worry, like, I think Miller's got some, like, got some shit to his game, right? Like, there's like, there's some, like, there's some, like, ISO creation stuff there that could be pretty interesting if he was the right kind of way. You know what I mean? Sure. But he also just seems like he's going to have. a lot of seven for 24 nights, you know what I mean? Like, I think Lamello's going to make his life a lot easier, but I don't see, I mean, I'll just use your word again
Starting point is 00:15:50 because I do think it's like the intentionality there in the way that he plays, like, there's a, there's a, you get the sense that Scoot knows what he also, what he wants everyone else to do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that there's like a chessboard kind of mentality there where it's like, I'm in charge of the,
Starting point is 00:16:08 way that this shit moves. And I don't know that I think Miller's just kind of like I know how I handled things and let me figure that out. It seems like, I don't know, and it's very early.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I do want to stress that it's really early. We are being very ridiculous. We just basically said that Scoot is a hall of famous after seeing him one game. But from right now, like what are the things with Brandon Miller in the small sample size that I've seen?
Starting point is 00:16:37 not necessarily like not standing out from the group in the way that you want a superstar to stand out from the group no i mean he don't get me wrong like he put wimby on his ass the other night and it was like cool to see like i also in sacramento when he had his 1511 turnovers he did have a great move where he like slipped and fell but then he had one of right right yeah yeah crazy that's probably what jordan saw i was like that's me that's the that's me because it was a jordan like like i'm going to glide into the in play in play in improvisation type of stuff. It was a beautiful play. No, no, no. He's got like, I think he's going to have moments. Like, I think he's going to have these like Instagram moments like these highlights, right? But I did, but I'm with you that just when taking the entire game into account and how he's affecting everything. Yeah. Just Scoot seems like the type of dude that's going to like really imprint himself on every game that he's in. Yes. Like whether he's making shots or not. And I don't think that that's necessarily going to be able to be the case for Miller right off the bat. And so I think that's what there's like a force of nature element with Scoot that's not there with Miller.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Okay. Most important part of the show, what's your hottest take from Summer League? My hottest take from Summer League? Don't act like you don't have any because I know you would be lying if that was the case. My hottest take from Summer League is that like Anthony Black's all rookie. Why is that? It states your case. Because I just love the playmaking. There's like, there's something about his passing that to me is, it's not cream of the cream
Starting point is 00:18:20 of the crop. It's not going to be like top five in the league. But there's something to the way that he processes things. And like, he gets to those weird spaces on the floor. Like, you know how Steph, like the handles so. Are you comparing this? Not at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Okay. I'm going to land the play. Hold on. Okay. You know how he like, because people are so worried about the shot and the handle's so tight, like he gets to these weird spaces on the floor that not a lot of dudes operate. Yeah. Black is tall enough and keeps his dribble enough and is willing to like try some shit with passes
Starting point is 00:18:55 enough that he'll get into these like kind of like dead man short corner situations with like two dudes kind of on them. And you're like, well, what's going on here? And then he'll kind of abracadabra out of it and then hit some dude cut into the rim. there's like a what what what what what usually like pulls at your heartstrings it's like what he does yeah what are those qualities that that just pull at your heartstrings of like okay you got me i'm here all right i'm here it's this you know what it is it's the it's the it's the it's the ability to make those passes but then also kind of like have the like showmanship to be like you like a little
Starting point is 00:19:32 asshole in your players i love you got to have it i think you got like i think that i heard a guy say wants like a player better have some motherfucker to him or else they're not going to make it. And I believe that strongly. And those are the players that I respond to the most are like, who's your favorite motherfucker player of all time? Nick Van Exel. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I saw him go number 37 go. Yeah. I saw 37 Nick Van Exel in the flesh where he basically shoots a college three as a free throw. Yeah. Because it was more in his range. I don't. What an answer?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yes. Like, bar of the century. Yes. Also, shows basketball smarts. Totally. Totally. What do you have a guy who's like, this is my, like, if, like, what is your thing? Like, who's, who's, what's your hot take?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Do you have like one that loaded, loaded, ready to go? Like a, like a dude who you're like. From here? Sure. I don't know. What about just in general? A hot take on a guy. Or is there like, in the same way that you ask me that.
Starting point is 00:20:35 You know what I'm going to say? Yeah. The guy that I love. What's up, honey? Somebody just jumped. Hey, we are on live at one of these, like, these sound stages here. Some kids getting air. They're getting airtime.
Starting point is 00:20:45 We see you, young in. It's great. There's a lot of, hey, we see them. We see them. Yeah, y'all can all jump. Somebody just did a John Morant dance. Yeah, John Morant dance. It's great.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I'm sure they have no idea what the show is doing. It's happening. You know, we help you for the best, you know, get well. Yeah. Anywho, the person that I love right now that fits all of my characteristics as a player. Yes. Malik Monk. That's great.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I saw him play a lot during the postseason in that first round series. And it was kind of an, and I saw him play the year before with the Lakers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just like, this is the guy that I love to watch. And the qualities are, I just need, fuck it. Yes. That's my quality. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And fuck you. Yes. Fuck it and fuck you. If you think that it's not my time, fuck off. Yes. I'm going to show you because I've been waiting to get in this situation for a long. time. Yes. And here's 30 plus for your ass because
Starting point is 00:21:42 like I'm finally here. Bro, he went into the Thunderdome of Chase Center and said I don't give a fuck. It was like that was one of those things like I'm sure for all like people that were among fans and everything like to see him
Starting point is 00:21:57 finally in that environment like really showing out and just like be like going way beyond meeting the moment, right? Yes. Like being like, actually,
Starting point is 00:22:12 this moment was made specifically for me. Yes. And I'm going to like, Deeran, I get it. You're the guy. But just let me flex for a while. Yeah. There was something, it was just so,
Starting point is 00:22:28 that's a great answer. Yeah. No, I'm excited. Are you, what are you, what are you, I mean, the Kings, how do you feel? I'm kind of like torn on the Kings because I'm not yet convinced that they're going to take the next step yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I think they're going to be a six-seed fringe playing team at this very moment. Yeah. Because I, they showed a lot last year. Yeah. But I think we're going to remember this year as probably one of the worst Western conferences ever. Yeah. Especially during the regular season. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And they were probably the worst three or four seed that we've ever seen. that being said, they went toe to toe to toe with the champs. Yeah. And I was talking to some of the, because I was in Sacramento before, I was talking to some people from out there. And I think the biggest disappointment was
Starting point is 00:23:20 that they saw the warriors as big brother, and they didn't feel they had enough, fuck you in them. Yeah. Right. They kind of looked at the ring a lot, right? And I think that that's something that they wish that they could have back.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah. That game seven. And that's just experience, right? Yeah. Like, Steph Curry is a generational superstar. For sure. And they wished that they didn't hold them to as much reverence as they did. They did.
Starting point is 00:23:50 The fear was like not appropriate. It was a little bit. They were walking on too hallow to ground, you felt like? Definitely. And like, you got to understand, too. There's a dynamic that the Sacramento Kings. kind of like not
Starting point is 00:24:11 they look up to the Warriors in a lot of ways and a lot of their personnel I feel like Vivek's been like pretty open about that like trying to even going back to like the buddy trade like he's like you can shoot like he can shoot like Steph exactly yeah
Starting point is 00:24:25 and I think there's a lot of that and then they played the Warriors and they're like okay now you got a front row seat to this shit yeah yeah yeah and I I think that a lot of the players and a lot of the coaches were like man we should have just said fuck them hopefully they come
Starting point is 00:24:39 back with that. I mean, I, that is one of my favorite. It starts and ends with the Aaron Fox, though. The Aaron has to make that leak. If he's in the MVP discussion next year, right? Like, I think that he has another gear in him. If he's in that discussion, the Kings are a 51 team. It's not, if Subonis, but if Subonis is acting kind of like how he did in the postseason, right? Right. Where he's just kind of flailing and everything. He, he's like 0.8 Palisal, right at this point, where he's a guy that can play really well, but he needs a bit more toughness in them. It will be to see them after experiencing all this success, getting all that experience on that stage, and in a lot of ways, like, looking really good. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:27 Like, you're right, like, came up, you know, a little small in the end there, but, like, for it to be their first go-round, like, really showed out, I felt like, and to see Fox playing like that through injury and really like kind of being a dog the whole time. Yeah. Not just offensively, but defensively too, like really like showing up when they needed him. Sure. It was super exciting. I want to see what like, I want to see what Sabonis looks like with two healthy hands.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Like he still had that whole thing go in the whole year. Sure. And so I want to see what that's like. But I'm with you that. I'm trying to see him throw a bow at Draymond Green if somebody steps on his chest. You do, you do want to see something. kind of want to see some retaliation, some constructive retaliation. You want to see some sort of like, even if it's not like a big thing, some like, hey,
Starting point is 00:26:19 we're not going to get pumped. Yeah. Like you're not going to, like the stuff that Mike Brown said, like you like to see the players, all the players act like that or whatever. And I don't think like Sabona's necessarily got punk, punk, but I'm with you that like, you want to see more get back from him in those sorts of situations. What are your thoughts on the mid-season tournament? Like, I'm...
Starting point is 00:26:41 Are you a traditionalist? I'm not a traditionalist, but I'm also like... I don't want to just, like, change some shit just because, like, you're bored. It's like, just because, like, Adam Silver's bored or whatever, you know what I mean? Or, like, he wants to do this or stuff. Like, I think, I think it could be cool. I think that there's a world where it's a success in the way that, like... Like, I thought the Elam ending was going to be stupid in the All-Star game.
Starting point is 00:27:03 They started doing that. I was like, hey, it's actually kind of fun. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, sometimes they... playing was going to be stupid. And it's great kind of great. And so I could see a world where if it is like you're getting to see these kind of like young up and coming teams who like are, do you catch them at the right time before injuries hit some of these teams and they can kind of ride a wave?
Starting point is 00:27:21 And maybe you get some of these situations where like these teams that don't get put on national TV enough. Yeah. Maybe through that like just more fancy. The Kings are going to try hard for that one. I was talking to, I was talking to Jones. And we were just like rattling off. teams that would be just really bouted in those ones. I'm thinking about the Memphis's of the world.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Think about the Minnesota Timberwolves of the world. They're probably going to put a, they would probably put a fucking banner. If they win that thing, they'll probably win a banner. If not that, Kat would be on Pat Beb's podcast talking about that was more impressive than a title. Hey, look, I know the Nuggets just want to ring, but I think what we did is a bigger deal. I mean, that's like, that's one of the. biggest Hail Mary ideas I've ever heard in my life. I kind of respect it. I love it because you know how oblivious you have to be to the rest of
Starting point is 00:28:15 the world. He's got to be having a great time inside his own mind. If that's the way you if you can divorce yourself from reality that much. Amen. He's never born. I wish I had the confidence to say that I was better than Will Chamberlain from basketball. I wish that I did. I wish I wish that he really thinks that he's like a better shooter than like Dirk or Honestly, though, here's a thing, though, but that gets into the psychology of an NBA or an athlete in general. No, you have to be, you have to be deliriously self-confident. Athletes are so arrogant. For sure.
Starting point is 00:28:47 All the time in everyday life, because they have to be. But I want that, you got to. I made, oh, recently, I made the mistake recently of saying that, I'm not even going to say the name, but I've made the mistake of texting someone after a game. And I'm like, man, you added some playmaking skills. Like, good job, man. It was a great job. They said, I've always had this shit.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know in my mind that you didn't have that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they were like, I could always pass. I could always do that. I just finally got the shot. I just finally got the shot to do it. The NBA player's favorite thing to say is that I always had this in my back.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah. Well, there was like, I was talking to somebody earlier and I was laughing because there's this thing that certain players do, like, once they enter the draft, that sometimes guys will be like, yeah, I'm really excited to get out there. Because actually, I can do a lot more than I showed. I was having to play a role here this year. And so, you know, I didn't get a lot of shots, but I can actually do some stuff in the pick and roll.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I'm really excited to show the other sides to my game and stuff like that. I love it when guys are immediately like, just so you know, I'm really good at some other stuff, too. Yeah. Or my favorite, which is that Summer League, where you see, like, the guys that, haven't made it or they had their shot already. And it didn't work out for whatever reason, including it was their fault.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And they come and they're walking like they're the shit with all they the ones that have the most like jewelry and chains on and they probably average like two a game in their career. And you see a lot of that at the G league in the G league, excuse me. And this summer league. Yes. You're seeing a lot of that out here. I mean, you're totally, you are absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Always searching for handshakes. 1000%. They're searching for handshakes. it's I you see that there you do feel that some of these summer league guys maybe like hang out around the entrance just in case like with their own
Starting point is 00:30:43 Sharpie just in case someone comes by you know what I mean hey you need an autograph yeah it's good I did hear a kid the other day that he was like walking with some of his other friends and he was holding the blue sharp he was holding a blue sharpie and the other friend was kind of mad at him and the guy holding the blue sharpie goes look the blue shows up easier I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:31:01 the other guy was like upset because because he wanted to use a black sharpie and his friend was like, look, the blue one works better. I don't know what to tell you. Oh my God. And this was like they were really going at it. I felt upset. They were like, what's the funniest thing you've seen with like PG-13? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That you've seen all the summer league that is just specifically summer league. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:31:23 What's the funny? We just kind of told the first example, but like, what's the vibe? The vibe that is, I'll tell you what it is. It's, there was a kid, there was a kid. When I was having to write about the, I was, it was right before the Wimby game, and I was trying to walk around, kind of get a taste to the scene, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:41 trying to see how people were feeling. And there was some kid, and he was wearing, what's up? He was wearing these shorts that had dice on them. That's fire. And I was like, man, you were jealous at first. No, well, no, I'm jealous now.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I think they were great. But I was kind of like, man, he really went for it with the outfit. And then all of a sudden I saw him. I, like, looked up, and his friend was videoing him. And he was like, All right, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I bet a thousand dollars on this guy. And then I had like the aisle I had to keep moving. I think I know who you're talking about. I'm not going to say their name. If you do, that's fine. I'm not, I'm not hating on him. It was honestly like the energy was astonishing. Honestly, it's kind of, I kind of get jealous because like, damn, I just don't have the
Starting point is 00:32:23 oaf to do that. Oh, I don't have the self-confidence to do that by myself. I couldn't record a video by myself saying, all right. I'm here. Let's do it. No, what was so funny was later on that game, I saw him ascend the stairs, like two sections over from me. Like Jesus? I would love if he floated.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But he just walked up this. I should have just said walk. You said like he floated. You acted like he floated. He did. He moved with the spirit of someone that would one day go to heaven for sure. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:55 All right. So this is not ringer NBA. This is not real ones, but I kind of want to have a real one's thing for you. Please. Before we get out of here. It's Sunday, but we're going into Monday. Let's do it. What's your real one of the week?
Starting point is 00:33:08 My real one of the week. We're bringing the propaganda of the ringer NBA show. Man, I'm thrilled. I feel honored to even be asked. My real one of the week. This is for last week. Okay, for last week. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Man, what was that last week? Fourth of July. Fourth of July. Real one of the week is this person that somebody brought some, some sculptans to a Fourth of July party. This is this good beer that I like. Oh, okay. And it's an anonymous shout out to them, but they brought it, and I'm very, I really appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I don't know who it was at the party that I was at that brought it, but it's a great beer and I was excited to have it. Okay. If you got, I should have thought more about it, but we're also on a time crunch, I feel you know. All right. I'm going to. What's yours? I'm going to give it to Low B. Well, who's that?
Starting point is 00:33:59 You don't know who Lil B is? No. Do you want to, do you need the base God curse? Oh, little B. Fuck. Yes, I know who Little B. Hey, what did he do? A, little B, spare the guy for the face God curse.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I like your, I like your fuck Kevin Durant's song. I sing it every morning. No, I didn't understand what was happening for a second. I know who you are. Don't curse me. I sincerely, it's my, I think it's still my ringtone, fuck Kevin Durant. I'm not sure. But it, I, you got to relax, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He's moved on to you have to as well. No, I don't care. I really want him to find some, I'm happy he's back to using his burners on threads. I want him to be happy. All right, that's it. Lil B is my role in the week. But what did he do, though, to make him a real one of the week? Did he do something specifically or just in general?
Starting point is 00:34:43 He's just in general. I was going on a big Lil B kick lately. I've been listening like praying for a brick. I've been listening to Bitch Mob Anthem. I've been locked in. We'll see that I like, if it can just be, if it doesn't have to be something that happened last week, it can just be anybody?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Well, he kills it every week, so. That's true. All right, man. Ben Cruz is telling us to wrap this shit out. Oh, Cruz is best. We got a team dinner later. Let's wrap it up. That was another edition of the Ringer NBA show,
Starting point is 00:35:06 special edition with my guy Tyler Parker. I am Logan Murdoch. We will see you next time. Real ones will be back on Thursday. Talk soon, tap in, Allah. Ha ha ha. Bye. E'ha.

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