The Ringer NBA Show - The Kid Mero + 'Real Ones' New York Knicks Spectacular | Real Ones

Episode Date: April 26, 2021

Clap your Timbs in the air because Bronx legend The Kid Mero joins Logan and Raja today amidst the Knicks’ nine game winning streak to talk absolutely everything Knicks in this Real Ones New York Knicks Spectacular. Hosts: Logan Murdock and Raja Bell Guest: The Kid Mero Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join Justin Charity and Micah Peters and Sound Only as they discuss their deepest, darkest thoughts about the millennial lifestyle, rap music, video games, anime, YouTube, social media, and their underlying themes. Check out Sound Only on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. So we're back with the Mad Hooper right now, and we have the kid Mero, and I'm just trying to figure out why he's so mad. He has a successful show on Showtime. The baggage claim is there. He's a bodega boy. Miro, why are you so mad? Let me tell you why I'm mad.

Let me talk about I'm mad, dog. You know what I'm saying? What's going on in these streets right now as wow? You know what I mean? Like the Knicks ain't getting no respect. You know what I'm saying? They talk about, oh, the Nets, the Nets from New York, the Nets from New York, the next from New York. Listen, shot to Kevin Doree.

I love you. Shot to Kari. I love you. I love crystals as well. You know what I'm saying? I love to stage my apartment as well, you know what I'm saying? But what's going on right now, June Miss Randall is playing at an NBA level, and he ain't getting a respect he deserved.

They're going to give Steve Nash coach of the year. When we all know, it's tips, baby. Tibbs need that closer to the air war. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm mad right now at this current moment. You know what I'm saying? Also, I'm going to 16 masks at the same time and I got vaccinated four times.

You know what I'm saying? But I'm still scared to go outside. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm upset. I mean, if I could get in for a quick second, I mean, my argument to that would be you're 34 and 27. You're only, what, like two games

out of the playoff contention, dog? Like, it's not like, I mean, you've got the Brooklyn Nets sitting at the borough over from the Knicks and you're almost in play in contention. Yo, listen, that's not a hit more there. Yo, listen, if I can make my own NBA 2K roster, like, the next dig, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would. You know what I'm saying?

Why not? Like, yo, let me just get everybody who's popping. Like, it's funny because I got an old, you know how the NBA is. Like, they've released, like, well, not the NBA, but like, these books come out. And right now my kids' bedtime stories, they're like, yo, read dad, read this book. and it's called NBA All-Stars. And it got Mello, Al Jefferson,

John Wall, the book is like a couple of years old. So they're like asking me about these dudes and they're like, oh, where do they play? Everybody in that book plays on a different team. It's like mellow on the Knicks,

like John Wall on the Wizards, you know what I'm saying? Al Jefferson on the jazz and shit. Like I'm like, whorrault. Ruins up next. What's popping? Rerowans. Logan Murdoch here.

Roger Bill. Raja, we have a really special guest, Roger. We have the human du rack flap. We have Curve Gotti. We have Trier's Khalifa. That's right. He ain't no fucking baby.

He fucking, man. Check the guests this again. His name is definitely on it. Ain't no one stop. It's a sign until he check. We have been stuck beyond ball. We have the dad of the year. We have the plantain supernova in the sky.

We have. We have. Marmello's Anthony. For three. You got the kid Mary on the motherfucker building. Let's go. Let's go. All right.

Let's get it. How are you doing, man? You want to do this podcast? I was like, are you nuts? Like, of course I want to go to talk shit about basketball. Oh, you know what I'm saying? All right. Let's get it.

All right, man. You know what I'm saying? There we go. You're in the right place then. Let's get it, Bob. Let's go. All right, man. So we got you on the most perfect time.

I know you got your Tim's in the. fucking air. Are you wearing Tims right now? Because this is, please tell me your L8 teams. I'm in the crib. I'm in the crib. I should be wearing teams,

but you know, we can't. Oh, yeah. Hey. Oh, sure. We're dressed on the waist up to Zooms.

So, so, so, so the Knicks are one nine straight games right now. Is it full Knicks propaganda in the

Mero household right now? Are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, won a championship? Is there, is it, what's going on

in the Mero household right now? Let me tell what's going the Merrill household in the middle. What's usually going on

in the Merrill household this time of year with the Knicks is we're looking at like, who's popping in college? Like, what's the power

what's the lottery looking like? You know what I'm saying? That's usually what we're doing at this time of year. Now, my kids are wearing

their Frank Millikina jerseys with pride. You know what I'm saying? Like, the Frank Milakia jerseys is out. That they were forced to buy beyond their will.

And they were forced to buy. They're out here, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, yo, it's a beautiful time to be a Knicks for right now. You know what I mean? Like, we're, and it's wild because the mantra in the house used to be if the Knicks cover, they won. Because you know, them spreads was bananas. Like, yo, the Knicks are playing the Sun's, yo, the spread is 23 and a half points. I'm like, yo, bang it, let's go.

They're not losing by 30. They're not lose by 13, you know what I'm saying? But they go cover. You know what I'm saying? Like good teams win, great teams cover. You know what I'm saying? So the bunch of it was, if the Knicks cover, they would. So there's a lot of moral victories previously, you know what I'm saying, in this household

regarding the Knicks. But now they're actually good. So it's just like, yo, and they're playing team ball. They're playing defense. Like, what is it? They're still ranks. Are they still second in the league in defense? Or did they slip to third?

But either way, they're like top three defensively. You know what I mean? Tibbs is out here. I always said this, Tibbs. There's a college coach and an NBA coach body. And, like, low-key, like, the next. Nick needed a dude that was going to come in and be like, yo, listen, this is what we about to do.

I got my vets, they know what we do. You know, I got Derek Gross, I got Todd Gibson here, they know how I run my shit. Or y'all 19-year-olds, let's get it. Let's get these dubs, let's play defense. Let's like get him, let's get him motherfuckfuck's asses on D. And like, everything will follow. You know what I'm saying?

And like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Hey, yo. I'm not happy or so miserable. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's go. Is this house money right now for y'all? Or like if they don't advance out of the first round, are we straight as a Knicks fan?

Or are we now starting to have some like expectation maybe? Like we could do something. Low key. I'm like, low key, like the expectation was like at first. It was like, yo, play it. Like, yo, we're looking, okay, we might mess around and make the play. And now we're sitting at what, fourth?

We were four place in the east. You know what I'm saying? I'm top two. I feel like the top three teams is already like cemented. But like four through like eight, it's like, you know what I'm saying? saying, my fuckers go in a five-game skid, you know what I mean? Like, anything could happen.

So now I'm, like, looking at it like, yo, the Knicks are going to be in the playoffs in the top eight. Like right now, you're looking at Atlanta. If it ended the day, you're looking at Atlanta in the first round. You know what I mean? Which I'm not even mad at because low keep me match up. You know what I mean? Like, shocked to Tray Young, you know what I'm saying?

But, like, defensively, you know what I'm saying? That's not scaring you. That's not scaring you, right? Like, that's a Knicks fan. That's not really, right? I'm not nervous. And that's the new thing, too. Like, as a Knicks fan, I used to go into every game nervous.

Like, yo, no matter what the team is, like, talking about spreads. Like, I went to a Golden State game and, like, you know, a year or two back. And this was when, like, Steph and Clay were just, like, ridiculous. Like, yo, just like, yo, throw me the ball anywhere, NBA jam. We're shooting, like, three-quarter court threes, like, ridiculous. And the spread was, like, like I said, 23 and a half. And they lost by, like, 32. And I was like, bro, come.

on like oh. This is wild. So it's just like, even those situations like, like you're playing a lottery team and it's still like, yo, we might take this out.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't feel like that anymore. Like I feel like every game is winnable. You know what I'm saying? Like hanging in there with the Nets, hanging in there with the sixers, hanging in with the sixers,

like all these like top tier teams and the Knicks are right there at the end of the game. It's never like, yo, we lost by 38 and the game was over after, you know, at the beginning of the second half. You know what I'm saying? So, Merrill, when did you talk yourself into that this could actually be a good season? Because I look at your Twitter feed, I look at Jesus's Twitter feed. I know every time there's like faint Nick's optimism in the beginning of the season and it quickly fades away in a month.

When it was, when did you were like, okay, I'm getting the special Tim's out today? I'm ready to go. These, I've been waiting for this since the Mason days. When did you get, when did you say I'm getting this ready? I'm ready to go. When I saw Julius Randall? expand his repertoire from like the spin move in the land that results in a turnover to like,

yo, the footwork is bananas, the outside shot is working, like all this stuff. And it's just like, yo, this is the guy on the team. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, it's giving me like, it's giving me like kind of like 04 pistons

where it's just like, there's not a guy. You know what I mean? Like, Julius is the guy, but it's like, it's a team, everybody's playing. Like, you know what I mean? Like one day it'll be bullet. You know what I mean? that shows out. One day it'll be like

Nerlis Noel that shows out. One day it'll be Alec Berks. You know what I mean? Like Julius and RJ are consistent. And then like the supporting cast like is like everybody steps up like on any given day. You know what I mean? And it's like as a Knicks man, it's just like, whoa. Like I'm used to like Dan Tony

drawing up game losing plays. You know what I mean? Like yo, I'm used to like. We're going to have no there will be no might de slander on the pod today, bro. Shout to my guy. Shout up to my guy. I know. I know you got. He got history, but I know you got history too.

He said he got history too. Yeah, like, I love him. I love him. Yo, I love Dan Tony because he made mellow scoring chant. He made J.R. six men of the year. Tyson Chandler, defensive player in the year. You know what I'm saying? But, like, you know, like...

It didn't come together, bro. It didn't come together. Yeah, like it didn't like come together. Like, it's looking like now. Like, now it's really looking like... And Roger, you can speak to this more than like a casual fan because you act like you, who? Like you're a hooper.

Like when you see the product on the court, is it different than like years past? You know what I'm saying? Like the body language, everything. No, without question. And I'm with you, like, Logan asked you the question about like when you were, when you were kind of bought in.

I think a lot of people were watching Julius Randall's evolution thinking, all right, this is going to fall off in a minute. Like, it's a dope story early, but I don't know that we can sustain it. And it's probably not even fair to Julius Randall, but he has sustained it. So that gives you that number one scoring threat that you're going to need. And then I agree with you, bro, like the defense in the NBA is just if you can do it at a super high level and you have a couple pieces that can score,

you're going to be in every game that there is. Now, you meet a juggernaut offensively that could just put up 130. You might be out of gas, right, if you can't lock them down. But you have a chance in every game. And you see the Knicks players believing in that philosophy. They're bought in to the way you're going to play. And that's what you look for for a team like that is buying. Are they down with what Tibbs is talking about?

Is the message getting through? And it's getting through. And the result is wins. Yeah, man. Like, honestly, to answer the question, like, succinctly, I was all in in, like, the beginning when there was, like, no fan attendance. And it was just, like, super quiet. And you could hear the players chirping and the coaches talking or whatever.

And, like, there was a moment where Tibbs, like, had his mask on. And he took it down. To be like, motherfucker at a rest. And I was like, we win in 50 games, baby, let's go. Let's go. Because he got, yo, Tim's got that real New York energy, bro. Like, Tim's just like the guy on the train that'll, like, there's a dude like, you know, pissing on the court.

He's like, hey, get off the goddamn train. I'm like, to work. You know what I mean? Like, that dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, he don't care. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's just like a mad, like, scientists.

You know what I mean? So, like, I bang with that. Like, I love dudes who are obsessive. And, like, you know, rest of peace, COVID, you know, I'm saying, one of the greatest ever. Like, that mentality of, like, yo, we're going to practice hard,

we're going to play hard, we're going to dedicate ourselves, our defense, et cetera, et cetera. Like, that's, like you said, that's what keeps you in every single game. And, like, yo, I was all in that. So he was like, blah, blah. And he's like, yo, he's like 89%

on challenges or something like that. Like, nine out of ten challenges. He's, yo, he's out of here. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Stamp it. I don't know if it's a prop bet, but you know what I'm saying? Take it.

What are you going to do when Tibbs is a plan, do it's 45 minutes a game in two years in contention? Have you been to prepared yourself for that? How are you going to handle that when that happens? That's my thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm like, I was worried about it, but I was just like, yo, shot to Kenny Paying. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like the conditioning that they are in.

Like, it's like, yo, Julius doesn't look gassed. You know what I'm saying? Like, when that Atlanta game went into OT, I was like, oh, we got it. you know what I'm saying? Because I'm like, yo, the Hawks ain't prepared, like we're prepared. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying we,

like I'm running suicides in the gym too. I mean, in your mind you are. In your mind, mentally, I'm for sure. Mentally, for sure. You know what I'm doing? 8,000 push-ups in my mind. I'm in the way from right now, mentally. Well, you're not.

Like, I feel like the conditioning, like they got. And like I said, everybody on this table is like 19. So they can run up and down all day. They'll run you down. Like, if there's a dude on your squad that's like, you know, like a, I don't want to take a shot of nobody, but like, you know, like an older dude who's not like one of them like up and down type of guys.

Like Roger Bell. Yeah. I'm not going to front. My back is my back is the one Murrow was talking about off air. Like I got no J and that. There's no more jumping in any of this. It's a, it's not a jumper. It's a her.

It's just a ur-in-this boy. I'm that guy. So, Merrill, so I have the, I have a question for you. When, you know, every year, like I said, I've been following you for a long time. Every year there's a role player, I call it the John Starks Memorial Role Player, where you guys think he's a lot better than he actually is. Not to say John Starks wasn't good, but, you know, and during the time, he was an all-star, perennial, all-star, Nick's fans' mind, right?

Who is that, who was that guy for you right now that is, that you're probably inflating his value a lot, way too much right now, but it's worth it, and he is the greatest, he should put his jersey up, and Mass Square Garden for at least two weeks. Yo, you know what I'm saying? Like, the reclamation project, the process, Nerland's Noel. He came out, bro. He's doing it.

Yo, at first I was just like, my man, do your fingers curl? Like, he was just like, like, he wasn't catching nothing in the paint. He was dropping everything. Now he's out here like, yo, throw it up. I'm going to yam it. Like, Mitchell Robinson, who's like, yo, Mitch, you can relax. You can heal up, get right? You know what I'm saying?

Like, I got this. Like, Nerlin's Noelle is playing. way above expectation. Like, I thought he was just, like, a tall dude that they were going to throw in the paint. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, dollar value Mitch. You know what I'm saying?

Like, but nah, bro, this dude is, like, playing out of his mind. Like, the obvious answer is Julius Randall, but, like, knows the well, dog, like, is the dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't sleep on him. He's playing, like, it's a contract year. I mean, it is.

But, like, you know what I mean? Like, he's trying to get that, he's trying to get that 15 mil. He's like, I don't want to know five, He's like, I want 15. Get the bag. I think, you know what gets lost in this a little bit, not that we, I mean, the leadership from the top of the organization and the change, right?

Well, you're talking about bringing in, you know, Leon Rose and Scott Perry's still there, and you got World Wide West. And what they've been able to do culturally in the building kind of sets the stage for Tibbs to do what he does. And then bringing in players, you know, because that's part of that job that you know will work well with Tibbs, right? Because not everyone does. Like, you know, I just want to give them to use a Logan term, their flowers too, because, you know, that's a huge part of what's going on.

I do think, and I'm interested, I'm interested to hear you on this because it's all gravy right now. Like, and I'm with you. The Hawks, good team, but they don't scare me. Like, I could see if it falls the way it does now, New York getting through the first round. But I do believe they need to go out and put another bona fide star with Julius Randall, you know, with those type of players to really be a champion. contended team. That's what's going to interest me. What are they doing to offseason? How do they keep the pieces that are solid foundation pieces? And then what do you sprinkle in with it to get you over to hunt? Yeah, like a guy like Bullitt like fills a role right now, like shot the Reggie,

like he's killing it. But like that type of player, like a wind dude, shoot the three, you know what I'm saying? Like knock down open shots. That's that's what the Knicks have been missing for so long is it's like knockdown shooters where like you could drive it to the teeth of the defense and just kick it out. You know what I'm saying? Before it was just like, bro, none of you all are going to make a three. So go ahead, drive the ball. We're going to have four dudes like this standing at the bucket like this. And you're not going to score.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, they definitely need another dude that can go out and get you 25, like easily, like a walking bucket. You know what I mean? Like, but at the same time, we'll buy into the defensive scheme. You know what I'm saying? Because like a dude like, like I love Devin Booker. You know what I'm saying? Are we playing the sons tonight?

You know what I'm saying? I don't know you're going to be watching. I'm like, and I'm like, yo, and lokey, I'm like, yo, the sons are on fire, no pun intended. And like, yo, that would have been a scary game to me last year. But this year, I'm like, yo, we can mess around to win this game. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? Lockdown book, you know what I'm saying?

Like, we can mess around it and like at least cover, you know what I'm saying? Because I don't know what it is going to do like 11 points. I don't even know what it is right now. Like, I'm about to ask Siri, but like, I know they're going to cover. So that's the thing. Like, I'm not scared. Like, it's wild. There's a wild feeling to go as a next fan into a game and be like,

yo, we can win any game. The Lakers, the Nets, whoever. Bag time. Time to pay the bills. We'll be back. So, I mean, this wouldn't be a Nix podcast without a Nix trauma time. So I got some rapid-fire questions for you. Hit me.

You can't break me. Okay. All right. Is it, is it poetic that the Nix-Bet season is happening where fans can't come to the arena. Is that, is that, is that, is that, okay. A fair, yo, part of me was so mad about it when I realized, like, oh, shit, the Knicks are good. You know what I mean?

Like, they're, like, they're playing team ball. Like, they're playing, like, they look good. Like, they're not winning by, like, before I was like, they were winning by accident. Like, there was like, yo, dude, yo, yeah, yeah, damn, we would, damn. You know what I mean? Like, we won 98 to 96. You know what I'm saying? whatever. But now it's like

the defense is what's leading the charge. You know what I'm saying? All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. You got me on that one. All right. What hurts more? Not getting LeBron and free agency, both times, or not drafting

Steph Curry. Definitely not drafting Steph Curry. Because we drafted again, I don't want to slatter nobody because I'm a failed looper myself. Jordan Hill, dog. Like, I love you, dog. you know what's a nick oh is a nick but damn dog we could have had step curry they drafted jordan hill before step curry that's tough yeah that's tough

he like he was he wanted to come to the next and he was sitting right there at seven and the warriors were like sick you don't like we're going to take him we don't really need him but we're going to take him you know what I'm saying so you can't have him and that's like the story in the next Like, yo, we're going to get the guy right before your pick. You know what I'm saying? Your guy is going to get picked right before you from maximum pain. You know what I'm saying? Like the lottery.

Like we did it on the show. Like we literally, I'm saying that with Fat Joe and Jada kiss and D's just watching the lottery, Zion with support. It is like written. It is written. We're getting Zion. And it's just like, you know, I'm like, once we get into like the single digits, I'm like, oh, fifth pick?

not us for pick not us oh we get it we get it with the third pick in the New York oh

it was like everybody remembers that draft it was like Zion Jha Barrett it was like Zion John Barrett everybody's like

you know Barry is the most NBA ready whatever whatever Zion is a generational talent and John Moran

is just like on another planet like athletically and like whatever so I was just like R.J. Barrett felt like a constellation prize

but now I'm all in on the Maple Mom but shout to him, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's like, elevated his game like every time out. Like, you can tell, like, he's serious about this, bro. Like, he's like, yo, I'm dead ass. Like, I'm gonna show y'all in New York

that you did not fuck up by that. All right. Last one for now. Do you think Michael Jordan seriously consider going to the Knicks in the mid-90s? And what would you have done if that happened? Oh, he definitely did.

He definitely did. He's capping if he says he did it. Like, if he, says, like, all, I feel like all the, like, the 90s dudes, like, they like to be like, nah, we ain't trying to get together. Like, we was, we was, we was trying to play with each other. We was trying to beat each other's ass. I'm like, bro, stop it. I was like, if Sean Kemp and Gary Payton were like, yo, we want to come to the Bulls, Michael Jordan would have, went up to Jerry Krause or whoever, be like, yo, get me Gary Payton and Sean

Cap Rainer right on him out. What's you going to do? You know what I'm saying? So, like, he did that. Like, he was like, At some point, he was like, yo, I'm out if y'all don't get so-and-so. You know what I mean? And he wasn't even in, like, down with Scotty at first. You know, you feel me?

Like, I feel like me? Like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like you? I feel like, like you're like, with a major Jordan slander. But it's not slander, but it's like, yo, a superstar kind of dictates. And like, again, like, I'm not in locker rooms.

I've never been in an NBA locker room. Roger, you have. Like, I don't know if that really is the truth. Like, because a lot of people say, yo, LeBron is really the truth. GM, yo, the superstar, whoever, like, the superstar of the team is holds a lot of weight in terms of like, yo, who are we getting a free agency? Who is the front office looking at?

Who are they targeting? Whatever. Like, you know, does that player have a set? Like, you know, did Steve Nash, was Steve Nash involved in those conversations? It was like a Mario involved in those conversations. You know what I'm saying? Right. Absolutely, bro.

Good. Hey, listen, your star, your franchise player should be involved to some degree in those conversations. He don't have to have the final, you know, write a refusal or anything like that. but he certainly should have things run through him because he's going to be doing most of the work and he needs to be able to work with the pieces you bring in. Yeah. So you brought up Zion, right?

And you know who I'm going? You know what I'm going? So, so. I was telling you what he was. Let me set it up. Let me set it up. So after the game. Wait, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I got to set it up, right. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead, set it up. Go ahead. No, I'm not going to set it up. All right, so a couple weeks ago, or I think a week ago, The Knicks were playing the Pelicans

And you know how New York media is Somebody set up the live So how do you feel about Baddus Square Garden and playing at the garden? And we already know what that question means. Are you gonna consider the Knicks? Are you? So so so did you did you did you did you

I was like I've been there? I've been there So we talked about this on the show last week We talked about this on the show last week To fucking relax I know you're not relaxing Merrill. Mero, how did you feel when that happened?

Are you already preparing in five years for him to come to New York and the garden? Are you already prepared your pitch? I already ordered the jersey. Forget the pitch. I already ordered the jersey. Listen, yo, I saw that man's wisdom teeth when he's spied. You know what I'm saying? That's it.

That's what I'm saying, yes. Like, yo, and you're like, like we just said, like you're talking about comfort, familiarity. He's, yo, he loves the garden. You could tell when the lottery bowl. dropped and it was the Pelicans got that ball. He was just like, like, he had to put it on the face like, I'm just happy to be in the NBA. But low-key, he was just like, damn, I want to go to the garden. And like, yo, R.J. Barrett is your man's. Like, and these are young

dudes. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm 37 years old. Like, I can set up myself an old head. So, like, and me at 37 years old, I get on the, I get on the horn. Yo, you know, Rieke, yo, you want to jump on call of duty? You know these dudes are playing video games, each other on the little chat. Like, yo, what you're going to do in all season? Yo, what are you going to do in those season? Yo, I'm old. Yo, Tim's got it.

Yo, we got a movement going over here, bro. We need one more guy, bro. Yo, come over here, bro. You'll be gaming on everybody. You'll be front page. You'll never pay for food ever again in your life. You'll be to talk out of town. You'd be on 20,000 billboards.

Fan, like, the allure of New York, like, is real. Like, and it's with the Knicks, though. It's not really with the Nets. Okay. That's not even missing. I know it's unprompted. I know it's unprompted, but it's not really what, like, yo, I'm like, yo, they're really good. The Nets are a really good team that probably, they might come out of the east.

You know what I'm saying? Unless Philly, you know, stumble mud hole in them. But I, like, personally, I think Philly is washing the nets. That's just my personal. Wait, so. But that's just like, that's just a couch, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, bed and ass dude. Are you saying this as a guy?

Because this goes to do a great conversation around Knicks fans. Are you saying it as the guy, like, you lost out on Brown in 2010, right? You lost out on Kevin Durant in 2019, right? Is this just the, are you guys, is this what you guys do to set up yourself for the inevitable, like, disappointment? What is the mind of a Knicks fan? And I want to, and I'm going to do this individually. What is the mind of a Knicks fan? Like, first off, when LeBron didn't come in 2010.

What was the mindset where you guys like, what the fuck him? Fuck him. Or was it like, damn? damn what was the mindset going into that? To me it was just like there was so many stories going around and that's the thing too like yo NBA players are humans dog

they're not robots you know what I mean like they're not like you know like compute most logical destination it's like yo I want to play with my man over here you know what I'm saying like I got a better chance to win a chip over here yo the bag is over here it's all like what the player individually is thinking about so like Braun wanted a chip

you know what I mean he didn't want to be like he don't want to go to another Cavs You know what I mean? Which essentially would be the case going to the next. Like he would have to, he would be the guy. The team would be on his back, et cetera, et cetera. And going to Miami and linking up with your man's is like, like seem like a better course of action. Also, there's no state income tax.

So you keep a lot of that wallet. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't factor that in. Like, Doug, if you're a truck driver, you're picking your where you live based on income tax too. Like, like, you know, extrapolate that by millions of dollars. You feel? I'm like, you're trying to keep most of that bread, bro. Because, like, at the end of the day, like, once your hooping career is over, like,

you've got to live off that money and invest and do different things. Like, you can't play basketball until your 80s, 65. That's not what you were saying. That's not what you were saying when you was on East Tremont, though. You wasn't saying that. You wasn't saying that. You wasn't saying that. You wasn't saying that.

You're acting real. You got the showtime. You got the showtime bag. Now you're all diplomatic and shit. You was not saying that on the block. You wasn't saying on the block. I was like, yo, listen. I was like, yo, Brian, you were a coward.

You don't want to take the tea. You don't want to take the tea to the top. Like, you don't know, no, no, not. Well, you know, I'm all done wise. And now, you know, I'm kidding number four. You feel me? Like, you see a finger pain in the back. Like, you know what I'm saying?

You watch that energy right now. So, big watch that energy. Like, I just want to encourage LeBron to be the best he could be. So I was covering the Warriors when fucking Kevin Durant was in his last year. And I remember when a Knicks came to Oracle, you motherfuckers were coming in droves. You had the 35 Knicks jersey. It was ready.

It was ready to go. It was like Guard West. You guys is ready to go. And you guys, you know, you guys travel well, right? It was Nick's West. What were you guys doing? You know, when you guys trained off Chris Stops, right? You guys are ready to make it a play for Kevin and Kyrie.

What were you thinking during that season? And then when he inevitably was like, no, I'm going to the Nets. What were you feeling like? I'm not even going to lie, bro. I'm not even going to sit up here in Cap and act like I wasn't like part of like the dudes photoshopping Zion, KD and Kyrie together. Like, I was that dude, 100%. Like, you got me, right-handed.

But, you know, when it didn't happen, I was just like, yo, this is just like LeBron all over again. I call it Nixcoat. Like, it's just like, like, like, you're like, yo, you know, we getting everybody. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, shut up I got network. I said the same shit. I was just like, yo, we get everybody.

You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, Luca, like, he's an unrestricted of free agent in four years. So he's coming to New York for sure. You know what I'm saying? Because he said he likes news. I grew up a Lakers fan, and you know how they do the graphics for the Lakers and shit about, like, with all the three agents. It's funny because that's literally what y'all are, though. That's what you guys are.

Exactly. We get all the hit four to you guys do it. Yo, but y'all are the Nix plus, except, you know, with more success. Except we win titles and stuff, yes. Exactly. You know, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's a large fan base that's like, wild, obnoxious, win or lose, like, whether it's LeBron, Shagickekekekeke or motherfucking Cedricin'Belos, you know what I mean? like, Lakers are going to be like,

yo, we're the best. You know what I think, you know who I think has potential to be that now going forward? It's not going to be the Lakers fan. I think it's the Warriors fans that are going to be like that going forward because they have the three chips and I don't know if they're going to win that much

going forward, but they're always going to have those three chips, right? They're always going to have their three chips in that dynasty and they're going to be like, you don't want to come to the best. You know what to stop us? You couldn't stop us. We built our team the right way. You know what I'm saying? Except Miss Tank dude.

Except his tech dudes. Except that's the only dude. So it's a little bit more corny. It's like, dude, we had, we had Steph Curry, and we were the, we had analytically driven, and we were going to win this thing. And yeah, yeah, you guys don't understand. The math was there, bro. Yo, you guys, you guys are casuals.

That's my favorite insult. You're a casual. Yes, dog, I'm not a professional NBA player. Anybody who's not a professional NBA player, you're a casual. I'm sorry to tell you. You know what I'm saying? If you never put out an NBA uniform, you're a casual, dog. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you never played in the game in the league. Like, you know what I'm saying? You was never in the locker rules. You know what I'm saying? Talk about Roger's feet. You know what I'm saying? When they was getting wrapped or whatever, you know what I'm saying? You wasn't there.

So you were casual. Roger could talk all the shit he wants. You know what I'm saying? Like, all of y'all, shut your mouth. You know what I'm saying? Logan, I've been saying Logan's a casual. I fucking, but he just talks to, he's been a casual, bro. What?

The fuck. Logan's the only one who don't know. he's a casual, that's all. I'm a casual. And Roger's watch. That's what we do. That's what we do. Roger.

Roger. What was it? Because you played the Eastern Conference. How was it to see obnoxious Knicks fans when you out here balling with the Sixers and you see these motherfuckers who aren't good, but their fans are like, the guard's real, bro. This is where it is, bro. It's the Mecca, bro.

You know what I mean? I love that shit, bro. I fucking love, I love being in New York. I love the garden. I love the energy in the garden. I never had to be. Yeah. He's like, yo, Nick's, yo, Nick signed Roger right now.

And, Ray, listen, I do have a beat with the Knicks. We need a knockdown shooter. Let's go. I worked out with the Knicks. I lit that shit up out in Westchester, wherever their facility is. They ain't signed me. But anyway, I'm going to let that ride. Y'all fucked up.

They fucked up. I'm not signed a Roger. I'm with you on the Zion shit. I said it on the pod the other day, man. You could say what you want. Is my man, David Griffin is the GM. I love all the people down in New Orleans. I'm not saying he's leaving today.

But the fucking smile that came across on my man's face that says it all. Like, you don't bust out in a chucky cheese grin like that unless there's some genuine excitement, bro. Hey, Roger, do you know who else did that? Do you know who else did that for a year and a half? LeBron James. He literally did that sit to the next for it.

A year and a half was like, you know, I love it. But it was different, though, because it was different, though, because, like, LeBron, well, LeBron, it was like always, it was always like, I'm from Cleveland. You know what I'm saying? Like Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland. And then he was from Akron.

Then he was from Akron. Yeah, yeah. Accret, Akron, Akron. Yo, Ohio, Ohio. I've never seen, like, I don't even know where signs are originally from. Yes, it's fucking different. You're comparing apples to oranges.

And I'm not saying that he's going to sign there unequivocally. What I'm saying is if you're a Knicks fan and you are easily excited, a big ass cheesy grin like that is another thing to be excited about because there was genuine excitement about that. And there's more. like evidence there. You know what I'm saying? Like with LeBron,

it was just like conjecture. Like, yo, like, he's a free agent. The Knicks are going to give him the bag. He's a Yankee fan on the low, he says. He's a Yankee fan on the low.

You know what I'm saying? All this stuff. So it was just like, okay, that's cool. But with Ziah, it's like, dog, your best friend plays here. You know what I'm saying?

Like, the team is on the rise. They have a, like, a legit coach. You know what I'm saying? Like, shot to Phish. Shout to everybody. You know what I'm saying? That predated Tim's, but like Tibbs did something,

I don't know what he got, he got the secret juice. I don't know what kind of, kind of speeches he's using, how much profanity. He's using in the locker room. A lot. You know what I'm saying?

But he got these motherfuckers, like out here bawling. Like, you know what I mean? Like, shit. Like, like I said, sign Raja, dog. Like, who's dropping 30 a night. Raja would be great for the prime Knicks.

You know, he's fucking throwing elbows and shit. He's a dirty ass. player. He'd be great like 1999. That's not dirty, dog. There's no dirty. That's playing again. Tell him. That's what it's playing the game. Yeah, dog, there's a difference with dirty is when

you go up for a jump shot and you get Zaza Petulliard or you get Bruce Bowen. That's dirty. You try to break them up. A guy in a playoff game. That's the next stuff right there. That's not dirty. That's fuck you. Yeah. If you want to fight, let's right. Look at Murrow right now. Look at Merrill right now.

Marrow is right now. He's ready to go. He's fucking locked in. He was a sign you to a 10 day. It's like my neighbor now, right? I mean, whether that's right or wrong, to play with stupid, but it wasn't dirty in a sense of like, yo, I'm a catch you when you're vulnerable and try to break your ankle and hurt you. I wanted to fight him.

So, like, what the fuck? Let's get it shaken. Yeah, that's the energy. That's the energy in the gun right now. Let's get it shaken. I don't care who you are. You can be the number one scene. You can be the bottom of the barrel team.

We're going to get it popping no matter what. And that energy is what I'm talking about. So, next, yo, Leon. Get Raja on a two-year 20-m-mill deal. A two-year Zoom call deal. I'll just zoom in and talk that shit. Raja. But that's what I'm saying.

Because, yo, a lot of people tell me all the time, like, yo, fam, you look like Jared Duddly. Every time Jared Dundle does anything, they're like, yo, Merrill out here hooping. Yo, Merrill got a championship. I'm like, yo, that's my Twitter. That's my guy. But, like, you know, people make fun of him and make jokes about him.

But I'm like, yo, those are the dudes that you, like, everybody does something on a team. Like the last dude on the bench That's like waving a towel He's doing something He's on that team for a reason You know what I'm saying? Like you and you need a dude

Because like like I said Like I'm not in a locker room So I don't know if Julius Randall Is the leader of that team You know what I'm saying? Like he is like action wise Like he's like yo He's playing his ass off

And he's like yo leading him by example But like vocally who's that dude You know what I'm saying? Because like I interviewed Or we interviewed Julian Edelman This is like a totally different sport, but it's just like talking about like,

yo, when you get in the locker room at halftime and you down by 15, who's a dude that's getting up and being like, yo, my man, like holding people accountable. Like, yo, fam, you fucked up. When we switched, you got, you was out there on an island, I know, you was lost and sauce.

My man, you were walking bucket, but you're out here, you're not driving to the hoop. What are you doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, that guy, that commands respect, even though he might be averaging eight minutes a game.

But the other dudes, the younger dudes, whatever, look up to him or like, you know, he knows what he's talking about. You know what I'm saying? Like, Dugs is that guy on the Lakers, you know what I'm saying? Like, he'll pull the younger guys aside. Yo, Coos, why would you dye your hair that color?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, let's focus more on basketball and less on, like, aesthetics. You know what I'm saying? Like, that type of dude, you know what I'm saying? Like, and like, Raj just said, like, a dude that's like, yeah, I'm not, fuck y'all. This is my team.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you fuck with him, you fucking with me. You know what I mean? Like, that type of. energy. And that's what I feel like the next guy. The Knicks don't feel like a basketball team. It's like a game. They're basketball game. What? Oh, we'll be right back. Roger, I need you to break Beryl's heart real quick. Tell us about the Knicks workout and then what happened when it didn't work out. What happened? What's going on? Tell me

what happened. You get a call. This is going on a lot from me right now. No, yes. This was man. Because Roger always had that energy that like, yo, fuck y'all energy. You know what I'm saying? On the court. I want to be a Nick. I wanted to be a fucking Nick so bad. So I went out to wherever their practice facility is. I was in Long Island, Westchester, right? I was in Long Island at my in-laws house. And they were like, yo, you know, come out and work out.

So it was me, Julius Hodge and two other people. So Alan Houston, his son were in a gym. Scott Perry was in her. Barney was there. I lit that shit up, bro. We played ones. We played twos. We shot the ball.

We did everything that you would do, like, coming out of school when you were a pup. But I just did it as like a 12. 13-year vet. And I was, you know, there are days where you're on. There are days when you're off. I was very, very on. And left that shit like,

we got one. Went home told my in-law is like, yep, gonna be a fucking Nick. It's gonna happen. My wife excited, the motherfuckers didn't call me back. I was hot.

Wait, wait, wait. I think what happened, if I'm not mistaken, there's a long time ago now. I think what happened was meta might have become available and they went to Ron, Ron, which I understood. Like,

I got it. But. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, I understand. I'm taking you over Barney Ernie, shot the Wild Clyde Frazier and his mispronunciations.

He called that motherfucker Barney Ernie for his entire Knicks turn and he's like, Barney Ernie. And I just remember this game against the bucks. Bro, this shit is stuck in my head. You could, I'm so many Knicks'ans are out there, you can YouTube this shit.

It's a moment where there's like 13 seconds left left on the clock. long rebound Bariani gets it we can hold on for the win just hold the ball get foul

we win the game some motherfucker chucks up a three with 13 seconds left bricks it bucks get the ball I was like yo what are you doing like I feel like everybody said

and then Clyde yo I love me some Clyde Frazier swishing and dish whooping and swooping his Xadadu has turned into his Waterloo you know what I'm saying

like these precocious theophytes out here. But he's like Clyde, like the exasperation in Clyde's voice, like he, when he said, what is he doing, folks? Folks, what is he doing? Why would you shoot the ball?

Barney Ernie? I was just like, yo, man, like, I'm telling you, I had, like, I don't know what I had in my hand, but it immediately got spiked on the floor. I was like, yo, what do you do? Like, what is it?

I'm like, I'm like, I'm just said, like, listen, I never played a single minute, I'm going to be investable. What makes you, like, is it just like, yo, you're not aware of the clock? Is it like, yo, you just forgot something? Like, you just, you do not, yeah, you were unaware of the situation. You had no idea what was going on.

You was just there. Like, fam, and you watch that play, like, like, just motherfuckersers just running haphazardly all around the court. Like, Gerald Smith is like, yo, like, stop, stop. Like, speaking, like, don't shoot. And the motherfucker's just like, ha! Like, launches that. And I'm like, no. It's like the Fresh Prince Colton three.

Yeah. And he just throws it up and it's like a slow-mo. He's like, damn, no. I was like serious. Dude, they got, they left Barney Arny on the roster instead of Roger Belt now, man.

See? I'm glad things have changed. I'm glad things have changed. It would have been some nicks-ass shit to have a washed motherfucker like Rajah on the roster. It was ready. It was there. It was there.

Somebody way over the hill that had, that just had one good workout. You're asking for too much. Is Asia asking for two months? Was Asia? Asia was asking for five years, $150 million? No, we were looking for vet minimum on one-year deals to come in and be a couple couple jumpers a game and play some defense, dog.

That's all we were looking for. And provide some guidance. At that point, not washed, Logan. I'm clearly washed now. But at that point, a lot of tread on the tire, dog. Like, for that role, I would have been fine. But, I mean, look, I think they got, I think they got wrong. I think they, I don't remember exactly how it played out.

But you know, you know, you know, you know why. Roger would have been perfect for the Knicks, Mero. I got to tell you his pregame routine. So this motherfucker would get to the arena very early, get coffee, and then before his workout would take a snow, like ice, and make a snow cone. But instead of like the red shit, this motherfucker would put Red Bull as the red fucking of the snow cone.

That's a, that's Nick's tape right there. He's ready to fucking know. That's why he was already, he always wanted to get a shake. See? That's what the next. me. That's the energy that Nick's fans love and a dog. I'm telling you, if they would have made the right decision and got rid of Barney, I think they were just trying to save face because they traded a first rounder for Barney Arnie. Barney Arney was our first rounderoy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So it's like, yo, we trade a first rounder for this dude. Let's try to do something with him. But like, dog, I would have, like, if I'm the GM, and I'm not just saying this because this is your show, though, though. Like, realistically, I'm taking you over him 10 times out of 10. Man, I always wanted to be a fucking Nick, man. That's real, I bet there are other guys in the NBA if you ask him, like, regrets. Not that I had a chance to be one, but what alluded you?

Like, aside from championships, some people, if they didn't get the bag, would say the bag, but a lot of people would say I would have liked to have played in New York. Like, that shit would be dope. Man, it's different, bro. It's just different. Like, I try to tell people, like, you know,

like, dog, like, show out to the Memphis Grizzlies, you know what I mean? But, like, you know, like, they ain't going up like the garden, You know what I'm saying? Like, I know everybody catches strays now, but like, you know, like, hey, you go to a motherfucker in Timberwolves game, you feel me? Like, it's a different vibe. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it is what it is? What is the garden like when it was rocking? I've never been to the garden yet. I want to get there. What is the garden like when it's rocking, Merrill? Dog, it's like, you know, the Knicks, like, put it like this. When Mello dropped 62 and broke the record, it was against the, the Bobcats.

It was against the Bobcats without Kemper Walker, and you would have thought that it was like game seven against Michael Jordan and his, you know, the Barcelona Dream Team. Like, like, like,

definitely, like, you know, absolute, like, like, I feel like that's why, like,

that's why so many people want to play there because it's like, yeah, you make a shot, a clutch, anything, a situation, you dive on a loose ball.

You know, that crowd is like worshiping you, fan. Like, yo, you scored 30 points, three games in a row. MVP, MVP! I think your penis grows three inches, me. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, this started chant, like, yo, it's wild. Like, yo, New York fans will make you feel like God. You know what I'm saying? Like, no cap. It's also a play, it's also a play slogan. Like, when you're playing there, there's an appreciation for who. Do you know what I'm saying? So, like, you can be on the opposing team and you get the vitriol of their fans.

But man, if you're thugging out through three quarters By the fourth quarter, they fuck with you. Like, you start to hear some people like ride with you. Like they might not be cheering for the team, but you hear them like they have an appreciation for who. Dog, it's still a place right now. Like, I'll take my youth team around the country. And at 44, most people don't know me when I'm out in the street.

Some people do, but a lot don't. If I go to New York, like we went to Brooklyn two years ago. We were in Brooklyn, random hotel. I got stopped on that street seven times in an hour. Because people were like, yo, I fuck with you, bro. I fuck with you. And knew who you were. Like, there's an appreciation there in New York for that shit, man.

It's a cool place to play both as a Nick and as an opponent, you know. Yeah, like, dead ass. Like Raj's saying, bro, even if you're on the opposing team and you do something that's like, wow, like you're going to hear something like ooze and ahs. Even from the dudes wearing like the Ewing jerseys and the Oakley jerseys and the Clyde jerseys, like even those dudes are going to be like, oh. You know what I mean? Like from the youngest to the oldest generation of Knicks fans,

like, we just appreciate good basketball. And it's good to have it be finally at home. You know what I'm saying? Not having to wait for, you know, like a good, quote, unquote, good team to come in and beat our ass by 38. I mean, for a while, the greatest moment in my generation was when Kobe scored, what, 60 and then LeBron had the triple double. That was like the best time in Boston Garden history, at least during my lifetime, right?

And, but you talked about Mello and you talked about what is the relationship between Mello and Nix fans right now. I always, I'll always go up for Mello. Mello is so, like, underappreciated in like the landscape of the NBA. Like, they never talk about him. Like, they're always like, yo, he's a cancer. He's this, that. And like I said, 16 times during the course of this podcast, yo, y'all have not. in the locker rooms.

You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all are not in their locker rooms. You don't know how people feel about Mello. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the media don't really know how people feel about Mello, you feel me? Like his teammates, et cetera. Like, what team has ever come out and been like,

yo, Mello was a terrible team? Like, nobody, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, now you got to, like, you know, the landscape is where, like, Rosh, you could come out here and be like, yo, so-and-so was a dick when we played on in Philly. You know what I'm saying? Or like, you know, ah, whatever.

Like, perfect example, JJ Reddick. took Madison to his own hands and spoke about his own situation and getting traded to Dallas versus like, you know, the Knicks or whoever, like, Brooklyn or whatever. And, you know, like, the players are speaking for themselves. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, to that point, like, I'm not even, I'm on some, I'm rambling. I forgot the original point of the question. How do you guys feel about Mello? How did Nick's fans feel about Mello?

He's a guy, right? I love mellow. My kids. That was, that was like the, my kids intro to the Knicks, right? Because, like, there always has to be, like, a guy. When the kids are young, like, when your kids are young and you're trying to get them into a sport or whatever, like, you've got to kind of, like, explain it to him.

Like, my kids is, like, at the time, like, my oldest son is, like, five years old. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, you know, the Knicks, the Knicks. And he's like, okay, who's, who's the guy? His name was Frank. Number seven, yeah. At the time it was mellow. It was like, yo, number seven, mellow.

You know, he's a bucket. Like, he could, like, you know what I'm saying? He could do it all. And 2012, 2013, beat the heat in the season series. Mello showed out. Anytime he had to play against LeBron. Everybody was like, yo, Mello don't play defense. Anytime he had to play against LeBron, clamps, you know what I'm saying?

As much as you could to LeBron. You know what I'm saying? Because you can't really clamp LeBron. But, like, as much as he could, he held LeBron down. So, you know, I always got love for Mello all day. Like, talking about vet minimums, bring him back. right now right now right now right now right now right now right now right now right now right now I love mellow like you know I got the mellow the god meme still in my phone like you

know what I'm saying like never heard a slanderous word about me ever you know what I'm saying I mayn't put the city on his back call all that slander back of the page of the post you know what I'm saying like yo you know what I mean like putting up game losing shots like go back right back in the locker room put on a funny hat and talk to every reporter in that put a caption out Stay mellow with the seven. Stay mellow with the seven all day. Engaging with fans on Twitter. Like, out of assing,

a ass, ass, the shit for me anyway. You know what I'm saying? I love that energy. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I'm talking about. Like, mellow's a real dude. Like that, and that's what I fuck with. That's a bodega boy.

You know what I'm saying? That's Merro from the Bronx. You know what I'm saying? I love real motherfuckers. Raja, mellow. dudes are like, yo, let's get it popping. Right now. I don't care.

You know, put the ball down, beat. Take your jersey off. Let's scrap right now. I'm sitting court. Yeah. Hey. Do you, so, shit. Okay, dude, the Knicks right now, I think they're on the upward trajectory.

I think one more thing that we need from the Knicks is we need some sort of player engagement person, a player outreach person for older guys like Charles Oak. That's what I'm saying. We need you to do that. And I say all that to say, what would you do to get the relationships back with the Charles Oakley, right? With Spike Lee. You are the outreach person of the Knicks. What is your first order of business to, what relationships are you repairing? What are you doing?

And how are you doing it? Oakley, Pat, you know what I'm saying? Those 90s, I need all of y'all to have everybody gets a day. a John Stark's day. With Pat, it's a week. Patrick Ewing week. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's all about you.

We celebrate a new. All your accomplishments, everything you've done. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, we're showing you on the Jumbotron every time we break for commercial. Like, yo, give it up for Charles Oakley. Like, we need those dudes in the building. They built that energy, that passion that Nix fans have comes from them.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and of course, like the older generations, like the wall, you know, with Clydes and them. Like, but that 90s, we're the New York Knicks, you know what I'm saying? That generation,

I grew up on that, grew up with old, Mace recipes, you know what I'm saying? Pat, John, you know what I'm saying? Out, like, later on,

L.J. Like, those dudes. Like, yo, give them their flowers now, give them the respect they deserve, retired and retire,

all those jerseys that are not retired, you know what I'm saying? Like, and just give these dudes like, they flowers, give them their respect.

You know what I'm saying? Like, let them come in whatever, what he want. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit, like, that's Spike Lee, motherfucker. Like, stop asking Patrick Ewing for a pass. He's Patrick fucking Ewing. He's Patrick fucking Ewan. Then the, they'd the arena after him at this point. Like, you feel me? Like, there's a finger all the way.

You know what I'm saying? Like, come on now. So that's what I'm saying. Like, those dudes built the foundation of the fandom. So you got to give him respect. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like, like, you got to, you got to, if I'm the guy, if I'm the player outreach dude. I'm like, yo, listen, fam, like, I know we fucked up. Like, you know, I'm coming back like, when you're trying to get your girl back, you know what I'm saying? With my hat in my hand, like, baby, like, common outside the time. Like, your eyes still green girl. You know what I'm saying?

You got some bellow hat on. You got some, you got some, you got some... All that. All that. All that. I mean, listen, I'll take out, you know, your luggers every night, you know what I'm saying? Whatever you need, maybe, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? Because all I feel like they just want a little love, man. They just want a little love. They don't want too much.

They don't want to, and that's the thing. Like, they know, like, yo, fam, like, I'm not, like, uh, like, ultra superstar, but, like, y'all treated me like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Alan Hughes and all these people like, yo, just give them their flowers, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, give them a day. Charles Oakley day, bro. Everybody, we giving out Charles Oakley shirts out front.

You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I'm doing this shit for Billy Joel. Do it for goddamn Charles Oakley? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. All right, man. Before we get out of here, man.

I feel right here, man. What's saying? All right, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, oh, to hit the bodega with, oh, shit, uh, definitely mellow, J.R. Smith, uh, Zach Randolph, um, Chris Chiles and Tony Douglas. Ooh, Tony Douglas. Oh, Tony Douglas. Man, Randall.

Man, Randolph. That's, good point. Got, got the record for threes, though. You know what I'm saying? Totally he's done with him. And his brother's at the end of the phone receiver. His mom's is like, I did that. Man.

Yo, this was, this was great. This was great. Raj, you got anything else? Are we doing it? No, you know what? Go ahead. Just what percentage of like Nick's fans bounced to the nets, dog? Like, I've always had this fascination.

Yeah, that's a good question. And I also have another question. This is just random as fuck. Like, Because my extended family is now from New York, right? Like, when you come up, you come up, like, Jets and Mets, can you be a Yankees and, like, Jets fan, or you got to be Yankees, Giants, Mets, and Jets?

Can you dig what I'm saying? Like, that's a real interesting dynamic for me. Yeah, not. It's usually, like, it's usually, like, it's usually Knicks, Giants, Yankees, Rangers. You know what I'm saying? Right. Of course, like the major sports or whatever. But, you know, you got people that are like,

yo, I live, you know, my dad is from Queens. So I'm a Mets fan, but I'm a Giants fan. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's all a mixture. Like, it's all valid. You know what I'm saying? To say that, except for the Nets. Except for the Nets.

You know what I'm saying? We can't fuck with the Nets. There was no part of you ever in the doldrums of, like, Nicked them where you were like, Mug. Even when they moved to Brooklyn, you weren't even like, no.

maybe, no, because it was like, yo, and I was like, yo, and again, like, yo, I love Kyrie

because, like, chyrie, like, speaks, he speaks his mind all the time. It's open. It's open. It's open.

It's right open. It's open. Like, like Chingy said, his pineal gland is decalcified. His chakras are alive. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, but like, I used to, like, make jokes about him and all that crazy stuff. But, like, you know,

like, he speaks his truth shout to him, but like I forgot the question again was there ever a point was there ever a point no no no no no no no it never wavered because when kari came

when they built barclays that that was like Brooklyn Navy artist and shit like that like it was just like desolate like whatever they built a barclays it looked like a PlayStation 5 like it was justification it was pure justification I remember I was

was doing something way back. Like, it was like the 20th anniversary of Redden and Dad, a Biggie album. So I went out to Biggie's old building. And it looked completely different. It was like an old picture of him and Junior Mafia, like, posted up in front of the building. Yeah. And now where, like, Little Seas was, there's like two little pine trees and like, you know,

like a cheese store across the street. You know what I'm saying? I was just like, man, this is best I do it. That's how it's triggering because Oakland is the same way. It's so triggering. You got to relax. You have to relax. And it's like, the Bronx is like the last, the final frontiers.

And people are like, yo, but you live in Jersey now. You're moving up to Jersey. I was like, let me tell you that something. Everybody from New York that gets a little bit of Dell moves to New Jersey. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, yo, you can buy a house in New Jersey. Unless you make it like multi, multi, multi millions, like most people just go like, yo, I'm going to go move to Jersey.

Yeah. Uh, shit. Man, yo, this was great. This was great. I just wanted to give you your flowers. bro, like you were someone that I listened to, you know, back in your complex day, complex days down to Iceland to now. Like, listening to you dying and you made it okay for me to rep where I'm from no matter who the fuck was on there. No matter who cares, you are going to come into my world as someone that's from Oakland.

I don't care about how y'all feel. Y'all going to know about this. And that's going to get numbers. So I really appreciate what you guys are doing, man. Fuck yes, man. It was an honor to have you on, Brody. Yo, thank you for having me, man. That's an honor for me, dog.

I'm living with my dream, fam. Like, I was the kid, fam, I was the kid that literally, when the book fair came into the school, the only thing I was copping was posters and basketball shit, like the little magazines, the little Sports Illustrated juniors, you know what I'm saying? Like, all that stuff. So, like, I was, I was, I, Roger, to your point,

I would have been one of those dudes like, yo, oh, shit, yo, Roger. I would have rid across the street. Yo, son, that's Roger Bell. He would have been like, yo, who the fuck is that? I would be like, yo, you don't know. Oh, no. This dude is a hooper. Like, he's a baller for real. Like, like, yo, this motherfucker's that play basketball and then there's hoopers,

this dude is a hooper. You know what I'm saying? He would have been like, okay, dad, can we go play home and play for that? Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. Mine would it too, bro. Appreciate that. Yeah, mine would it too. Logan kick rock. No, you out. Bye. Man, thanks so much, bro. Thank you, man. Like, that, that, that, that, that, that, back and forth, like, that's what I live for, bro. Like, you feel me? Yeah.

People told me the same thing. Like, yo, you two Bronx, you two New York. Like, yada, no, no, no, no. And, yo, the great radio personality, radio legend, Mike Francesa said it. He's like, no, he's like, stick to your guts. Be who you are you all? I mean, if Mike Francesca says, the fuck, who gets a fuck? You know what I'm saying?

Yo, fuck that. Who cares, bro? Like, fuck that. And, like, I learned about the Bronx because of you. Like, I was like, okay, for sure. The Bronx is a place that I need to go to. That's somewhere that I need to go to. And, you know, and then also, like, you guys brought, y'all brought, y'all brought hip hop into

the shit. Like, I remember you guys, the reason why you guys did your ads, the one that I, you know, paid homage to, you guys, that was something that you guys got from New York Radio. And then I'm a big fan of East Coast hip hop. That's how we got the Mad Hooper. You know what I'm saying? That's what we just hip hop. You know what I'm saying?

Real hip hop, hip hop. You know, I got my big, I got my big jam sport on right now. My big backpack on right now. Let's go, man. We'll see, come back to the show anytime when the next. go to the finals, you got to come to the fucking show. You got to get back on. Let's go.

Let's get it. You got to say? All right, man. I'm already campaigning for that. When Tim's retired, Roger, we'll get you in and coach your Nick. Let's go. You know what I'm saying?

We're going to make you a Nick one way or another. There we go. We're going to make it happen. Hey, this has been another edition of ruins. You could catch us everywhere you get podcasts. Go to the Ringer Show to go on. You can listen to mismatch. You can listen to the answer.

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