The Ringer NBA Show - Why Is the Draymond-Poole Drama Still Going? Plus, What It Was Like to See Wemby in Person. | Off Guard

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

Austin and Pausha are back and start things off by recapping their time at Summer League watching Wemby play in Las Vegas (2:14). Then, they dive into all the player movement this offseason and take a closer look at Dillon Brooks’s fit with the Houston Rockets. They also talk through what Damian Lillard’s fit will look like on the Miami Heat if/when that trade ends up happening (22:27). Later, they weigh in on the latest developments in the Draymond-Poole drama (41:37), and then wrap things up with some rapid fire questions (47:16). Hosts: Austin Rivers and Pausha Haghighi Producers: Erika Cervantes and Ben Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What's up, everybody? We are back finally with another episode. It's been long overdue, but we've had just a couple weeks in between, I think, our last episode. It's been some time, Bosham. Definitely. It's been, I think, three weeks since Free Agency. Yeah, free agency. And then I was out with the NBPA program working that. And then we had summer league. And then I went on a, I usually take a vacation once a summer. And, We did that with my fiance. So it's been kind of like just out of it. It's just I, it feels even weird being back home and being, you know, on this pod right now.

There's so much to talk about that I don't even know where to go. I'm excited. I'm excited. All of, the only time we have spoken, the only times we've spoken is when you FaceTime me, the timing obviously like time zones. Yeah. You're hitting me up and you're having like the time of your life. And for me, it'll be like, you know, Tuesday morning.

And I'd be like, and you would, the jealousy would be. No, the screenshot, the screenshot we have of me. you and all of our friends on a FaceTime and everyone's just like happy and smiling and like, whoa, look where he's at. Yeah. Your face in the background was just like, this guy looks just. No, this is, listen. I'm happy for you.

I know, I know. You're just like, look at this guy. Yeah, no, I hear you. Yeah, I'm over eating Chipotle. You're over here eating Craves filled with champagne. I don't know what's going on over there. I need to take it easy on it. No, listen, you look refreshed, happy to have you back.

Yeah. We didn't run into each other in Summer League, though. We were there different days. No, we didn't. I was there Thursday. night, Friday, Saturday, but I was out Saturday early morning. I actually had a blast, man, was just there really networking, meeting people. I've been working a lot this summer for ESPN, as people know, and really trying to dive into that more, especially with the recent news. They've

let a lot of people go, and they're kind of looking for new town and a new acquisition. So just trying to get my feet in that water. I think the only current player that does like heavy media in terms of being on TV and doing a desk is I think with Turner Sports is Draymond Green. Yeah. We'll get into that in a second because he's he's got plenty to say. But yeah, I'm trying to do the same thing essentially for ESPN and feel I can and I feel like that'd be a great partnership. I love Malika. I love Richard. Have a good report with them. And it's been fun doing it. So just trying to continue to build that out and grow and just take it step by step. For everyone that's listening that's never been the Summer League, I want to explain to them what it's

like you're walking through like the win or encore, the lobby, and you just see everyone affiliated with NBA players, former players, executives, coaches, and they're just out there everywhere. For a basketball fan, it's like you're heaven. I'm shocked there's not more fans that just hang in the lobby. Yeah. If you are a fan of the NBA, like if you ever wanted to meet a certain NBA player, all you have to do, honestly, is book a ticket to Vegas the first weekend of Summer League. you don't have to stay at the win

on the encore, no, that's pricey hotels. You can stay anywhere, for that matter. And then just go show up and park your ass in the middle of the fucking lobby. It's crazy. And the win of the encore and sit there, play some poker, whatever you want to play, just a buy time.

You'll just see every one of your favorite players just roll through. And they're easily approachable. You can just go talk to them. I mean, with the exception of like a LeBron James or something like that, I think anybody else you could just go right up to and talk to and say hi.

Right. I went to Earth Cafe for a little smoothie in the morning. I see like Tom Thibodeau and like Rick Brunson having a little powwow. Then you go down stairs. You see like Brad Stevens and Danny Ains talking. You're just like what? This is just it's a basketball fan's heaven. I feel like all my friends are obsessed with basketball.

Yeah, they should just book a ticket. Go. It's really cool. The atmosphere. And then the games this year were packed too. I feel like they were more packed, obviously because of Wembe. Yeah. I think Victor brought a different level of excitement.

Yeah. And then with the NBA con, you know, that giant globe. They built out there. I think it's really smart that NBA is kind of playing their flag in Vegas. And I think it's interesting because Vegas has an NFL team, but it's not a, it's not a football city. It's a basketball city. And we've had our Summer League there far before they even had any roots there. And it's just, bro, our Summer League is bigger than, I tell everybody, forget All-Star, forget All-Star.

Forget the All-Star break. Summer League is way more cooler than All-Star. Well, also with the cities they pick for All-Star later, and I'm not trying to hate on the Utah's. No, but you want to go to Indianapolis All-Star or do you want to go to Las Vegas Summer League? Not only are you going to see All-Stars, you can see all your favorite players. You can see the guys that aren't going to be an All-Star weekend. You can see the coaches and the GMs and assistants, and it's more with their guard down. Like, All-Star is such of, like, transactional event, like the guys are there and you have to do your charity work and you have to do this event.

You got to shoot your, you know, photo shoot for this. And guys are in mid-season. So a lot of guys are there. This is their break. Yeah, that's their break. Half of them don't want to be there. Right. The only ones that really want to be there are the ones who are in the All-Star game,

and they only want to be there for the game and get out. They don't want to be there at all Friday or Saturday. Exactly. That's why the dunk contest and the three-point contests look like what it looks like today. Everybody goes to Summer League, though, especially the first weekend. It's summer. People will kind of get the itch to miss being back in the gym and see everybody again. You go work out.

You go play pickup. up and then everyone hangs out at night, goes to dinners. It's a huge networking thing. So it's, yeah, I actually haven't been to Summer League in like four or five years. It was really nice to go back and work and do some stuff. There's definitely some energy there that you can't really explain, right? Like, you haven't been there in a while. You went there.

No, you just there is a buzz there. Yeah, there is a buzz. You wake up first, like, you don't even want to be in your room. Like you get up at like eight or nine and you're just like, I know stuff's going on. And you go out, you go down in the lobby and everyone's down there. You can't walk five steps start running. without running into somebody. First of, there's no creep mode there. Can't creep around in Vegas. There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, uh, you got to be careful of how you move.

A lot of young players make that mistake. They'll like go out and get hammered and like stumble through the lobby, which, listen, I'm not making fun of anybody for going out and getting drunk in Vegas. That's what everyone does. It's Vegas. But, uh, you just got to be careful of how you move, just because every single person will be in that lobby. Right. Like, you're not coming back and like, nobody's not going to see you. And the NBA talks. And it's a high school. It's a high school. There's gossiping going on left and right. It's a huge high school, man. Everybody gossips and tells stuff about each other.

And like high school, a lot of it can be just perception or not true. You could have one bad moment with one person. Yeah. You could be having a bad day. You could have just gotten bad news. You could have just had a whatever, you know. And then you have a bad instance with one guy. And that guy goes and tells another guy like, yeah, I was just with Austin.

He's good. He's an asshole, man. That guy did this, this and this. And now that guy is like, yeah, I heard Austin's a dickhead. Now two people know. Now three people know. That's, that's, I can't tell you how many negative things I've heard about other players

or myself that you just like end up scratching your head. And you're just like, what the hell? And then so that rumor goes around. And then what happens is when you meet people for the first time, they already have this, they've already heard about you. Pre-conception. You're starting the conversation down 10 already. Yeah.

And you have to spend the first 10 minutes working your way into, okay, we're back at sea level. Let's see what he's like. Yeah. Like you're playing from behind. What do you mean? Look at DeAndre Aten. Yeah. This guy did a whole interview where he's like, I feel like the whole world hates me.

And my goal this summer is to change that narrative. That's crazy. And I'm just like, bro, your goal should just be in the fucking lab, bro. Forget. They'll love you if you play well. Yeah. If you would have dominated or made life difficult like Yoguch, like you did the series before when we played, Joe. When I was in Denver, three years ago, when we got swept by Phoenix,

Yokush played well, sure, because he's going to play well versus every. everybody. But D'Andre played fantastic, the whole series, played with tons of effort and actually made it as difficult as I've seen someone make it difficult on Yokage since I've probably, you know, over the past four or five years since his dominance has really like gotten to this level. Aiton was the best person to guard him in that series. And everybody had great things to say about Aiton. That's when people are like, yo, Aitin's Supermax. Aiton's this. Aetan is that. It was the following years after that were like people kind of... The extension issue. The extension issues into him and money. And then there's instances we see him

and book getting into it. And now the media does what they do. You know, they're going to, they're going to poke and come up with narratives and stories. And, you know, now he's, he has a, it did look a little weird out there at times. It looked like he was a little lackluster a little bit last year. Maybe he's frustrated with the situation. So just because of that one situation, now everyone, you know, it was hard on him. And now he's like, oh, people hate me.

It's like, bro, no one hates you, man. And also, no one even really knows you. This is time to embrace your role. First of all, you got your money. So check out. Yeah, that's, now you're a team with. three potentially Hall of Fame players, all perimeter players, they need you. Like they're all interchangeable, but you're the guy that they need.

You, they, like, so it's just like, I think it's a perfect role for him to, I mean, let's say. They're title contenders like we all think they're going to be. He's going to play a huge role. He has to play. Yeah. He has to play and he has to play well for them to win. Right. There's just the best team in the West right now, their best player is a center.

Yeah. That, right off to bat. And the only guy that I've ever seen, I don't want to say. slow him down because no one can really slow down Yokch by themselves. But the only player I've been able to see that I can guard him reasonably well and actually give him some problems here and there has been Aiden at his best. And you told me Dwight Howard.

Dwight Howard used to guard Yokage very, very well. You know, he had those comments the other day about Yokish too, which was interesting. For sure. I think a lot stems from that, but yeah. Really quick, Dwight Howard, I just, I feel bad. I feel like people look at his career and they don't really realize how good he was in Orlando? Yeah, people forget. But I think that's with so many players before Instagram heavy era. That's true. Those highlights in Instagram Reels and everything, they live forever.

And then you'll see that random on Twitter, like, minute highlight of Dwight Howard was the Beast in Orlando. And it's all these crazy blocks and dunks. And it'll like, you know, it'll circulate. But yeah. You'll see, you'll see like one of those montages are like, don't forget that he was really good. It's like, don't forget. Prime Mitch Richmond was a problem. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And like, you have like eight. 16 year olds like, man, who is this guy? He can play. You're like, bro, this guy's fucking Dwight Howard, bro.

People forget, like, Dwight Howard when he was at his peak. Like, best player at his position in NBA for a while. Yeah, long time. Dominate the NBA. Six, seven years at least. Multi-defensive player. He was like a supreme, and I'm not, listen, I love Rudy Goebert, but he was like a supreme athletic version of Rudy.

Because Rudy's really good, but he's nowhere near in the realm of like a Dwight Howard in terms of just like athletic and physical strength. Prime Dwight, yeah, of course. Prime Dwight, prime Dwight. Of course. You know what I mean? And yeah, it's interesting, man. So that would be my advice to circle back to Aiden would just be to lock in and get in the gym and just,

bro, if you play well, they'll love you. That's just the reality of the fans. And you're winning. Winning, Cures. No, winning and playing with effort, bro. If you play hard as hell, man, like fans will love you. Yeah. You know, so.

So what do you think about Wemby's performance? Obviously, had one bad game, one good game. What's your takeaway on that? He was one-on-one. It's hard to really say he didn't play well because that game, I mean, bro, I'm there covering it. I did the pre-game show, and it was just, it was a circus, bro.

I've never seen a Summer League game like that in my life, and I've seen the Zion game. I was there for LeBron James' first game. I was seven, I was eight or nine. I was there for that, too, when he got dunked on by the guy in the magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Britain Johnson.

Yeah, and it was in the magic arena. Yeah, yeah. You know, I went to that, and that was a different level, too, because that was when, you know, that was the only game they put in there. Everybody else had to play in the little rink-a-dink magic. So, Dwayne Wade played the game before that, and I was like, he's going to be good.

Like, I think that was like my little scout. Like, I'm young. I'm thinking, like, wait, great pick. Yeah, great pick from my head. I think he might be solid. It's going to work out. And then, like, yeah, the LeBron game against the magic. I remember that for sure.

And he was just a man amongst boys already at 18. It was insane. But this game was different, man. he uh it just seemed like uh there was too much going on and then the brittney spares thing that happened right after that didn't help it's a weird welcome to america moment it's fucking nonsense bro first off he had his back to her he didn't even know who was trying to grab him yeah yes the security didn't ever put your hands on a woman like that or like but he actually it was the spur security right it wasn't his own personal i don't know i don't know but regardless it's not like victor told

them to do it he didn't even know it he didn't go he didn't go and it's taking it's taking it's Yeah, he was walking back. He was walking the opposite direction. Didn't even know what was going on behind him. So he just thought of some fan. You know what I mean? It's not like he sees Brittany and thinks that's Britney Spears. No offense to Britney.

She don't look like the Bernie Spears. I'm sure that he grew up watching. Was he even alive when she was, you know. The ironic thing about all of this is that, and again, I don't think any woman ever deserves to ever get her hands put on her. But she got hit. And the only thing I can think of that happened was, her hit song,

Hit Me Baby one more time. Okay. I don't know if that's going to make the pod. That is... Wait, that's not the most ironic thing. Was that not a New York Post headline? That should have been a headline somewhere.

Title of the article. Hit me baby one more time. But then she came on the video and she was like, did you see? She made a video like last week. No, I'm not watching those videos. She was like...

I have yet to... When I see her, she's spinning around, dancing in like a very like, frivolous outfit. No, it's a weird, it's a weird thing that she has going on now. I don't know what.

it is. I'm happy for it because I know she got like her freedom from her parents. Right. Financial situation. So whatever, whatever. This is, we're getting way off topic with Bridie. No, for sure. No, the, uh, she made a video last week, apparently saying I've yet to get an apology from Victor. It's just like, bro, what? You might want to keep waiting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if the hell? First off, no one cares anymore, man. And the reason people don't care is Victor had nothing to do with it. Yeah. It was just people guarding Victor and he was walking the opposite direction. It's not like he gave the order, like you said. It's not like he gave the little handle this. Like, bro.

You ran upon him and tried to touch him, thinking probably because of your celebrity that you can just approach anybody that way. And you know this because in her video, she's like, I've been in places with the backstreet boys and Justin and this and this. But that whole thing is just like, bro, it's just relax. So this kid has all this in his head. The circus, the camera's following, but the amount of cameras and people that were following him, it just looked unhealthy. Yeah. It looked unhealthy. It made me think like, man, this is like his...

Basketball's the last thing probably. Yeah, bro. Now he's supposed to go perform with all this going on. And he said it after he got done and they shut him down. He goes, I'm so thankful that this is over. Yeah. He's like, I just want to go to San Antonio and just go play basketball. Sounds like San Antonio is a great place for him.

No, no, it's perfect for him. Like, it's just like it was a shit show, man. I mean, he's walking around. There's 50 people with cameras and following him. And Victor do this, Victor, Victor do this. Victor, do this. Victor interview, interview, interview. interview, interview, interview.

And then they're like trying to drag this brittany. They made it way bigger than what it was. Yeah. This is on the eve of the game. He comes into the arena and like the crowd is going insane. I mean, there was electric in there. I mean, he is crazy to even see the own person, like his heighty stuff. He is the freakiest thing I've ever looked at in my life.

His body doesn't even genetically make sense. It's like I've never seen anything like it. He looks like a regular height-hided person stretched out. Like, it's crazy. He doesn't look. He doesn't have like the, yeah, he's not like Zach Eady on Purdue walking around. Yeah, yeah. It's not like long legs and like a long upper.

He has like, his legs are like tall, but his upper torso, it's like someone grabbed him and just. Stretch Armstrong. Yeah, just like, like, I don't even know how to explain it. It's like taffy. It's like a taffy body. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's like one of those old things that are like blown up at like the car car dealerships that like wave around the air. Like he's built like one of those things.

And he can move functionally. He has coordination. And that's why. I took away from the game. I didn't take away the stats. Like I said, there's too much going on for this kid to play well. I don't think anybody would have played well in that game, maybe other than LeBron James. And that's just because LeBron James' game style was just so ready for the NBA at 18. For sure. But I don't think anybody, with the exception of LeBron would have played well right away. And I try to remind people when I...

But the second game was really... No, the second game you played great. You know, he bounced back. I mean, he missed that last shot, the one-legged to win the game. But that's another thing, too, with a shot selection for me. If he's going to score in the same way, let's say like Anthony Davis scores, Anthony Davis, every game gets at least 10 points of easy, just little layups around the rim. And I don't want him just being this perimeter,

thinking his KD. I want him to get those 10 to 12 easy baskets, and then you can shoot your threes and get to the line, everything like that. But I definitely want him to get easy points around the basket. I just feel like no one wants to see him out there just hand in the way. My first takeaway from the first game is he shot like seven or eight threes. And I'm just like, bro, this is not,

First of up, that ain't happening. We'll pop a bitch. I can promise you that right now. And it's just like in today's NBA where it's a guard heavy league, we don't have a lot of dominant centers in the NBA. We don't. That's why Yokic is just at this point unguarable.

We don't really have anybody to guard him. Yeah. He's going to feast down there. Picking, rolling, running the floor, around the offensive glass, just hanging in the dunker spot, not to mention his post-ups. He's got to get stronger,

that'll happen. obviously he looked a little unbalanced every time he caught the ball someone was pushing him out he couldn't even get in the post and you know summer league always has on every team one of those guys that was like center in college trying to make a roster spot your quincy aces of the world

that are just going to be pushing and being strong as shit and they were obviously going to be like this is my moment I'm guarding the number one and that was what I noticed game one I was like he's got to put on weight yeah um because this is just called him taffy obviously needs to put on with him he's got he's got to put on some weight

um he couldn't even get around the basket. Like he was just pushed out, pushed out, pushed out, pushed out, as soon as, like, this guy puts on like 20, 30 pounds,

it's going to be a wrap. Yeah. Because his, what I hung on from the games, because after game one, everyone was like overreacting, like, man, this is the guy you're saying

is the next Jordan? Well, first off, even MJ. Well, actually, MJ was pretty dominant as rookie year. But like, you know, you look at the Kobe's and Janus's

and Yokage or whoever, any of the great players, everyone takes a couple of years to get going. There's only a handful that go right out the gate. I can only name a couple, a couple off the top of my head that I've ever seen from his rookie debut, like, just on go.

Yeah, like Tim Duncan was first team all NBA as rookie year. He played four years in college. And he was on a, he was joined with a great franchise. Same with, same with Damian Lillard. Damian Lillard's one of the few players that I've seen from day one as a rookie. I'm like, yo, this dude is a straight savage, bro. He's a pro, bro. He was dominating his rookie year. I mean, his first memory had like 20, Chris Kobe. And Kobe was like, yeah, those guys are real deal.

No, for sure. But he's also a guy that went to college for multiple years and, like, had to experience, you know what I mean? So this kid is extremely young, extremely talented. And unlike all those guys we just named, they're not seven four, man. You know what I mean? Like his coordination and his ability, like it just is going to take time for him to catch up and get there like anybody would. So I always tell people, I'm not care, I don't care to be impressed by him at age 18. I want to know what he's going to look like at 24. I want to know he's going to look at 23. Yeah. I want to know he's going to look like a 28.

I mean, just think how good this guy's going to be in six, seven years. Because he has, I mean, he had one move, bro, the first game. He hit like a crossover and then did like a no look pass. And the whole crowd was just like, yeah, I never seen anything like it because we have it. You know what I mean? I know there's like bowl bowl, but like they're just two different types of prospects and players. Yeah, I mean, the magic just waived bowl for the minimum of next year. So, you know, it's interesting, man.

I was really impressed with him. And I was really impressed how he handled it, man. He handled the media. interviews and everything, he seems super sharp. I don't know if it's like a European thing. I don't know what it is, but it seems like he's been groomed. He's going to be a star. He is.

He's going to be, you could see it. And he has his head on his shoulders. And the fact that he's just like, yo, I'm glad this is over. Like a lot of these little trendy fucking new basketball players that come in the league, bro, like they love this shit,

bro. They love the camera. They love, they want as many Instagram followers and TikTok and this, this and that. And listen, I got no problem with that and handle your business, get your money.

But like, Victor just seems like, he just wants to play basketball. He's like, give me to San Antonio. Yeah, give me to San Antonio, give me in the gym, and just get me the, I got the way, bro. Like,

because I know the draft from that to, I mean, I mean, his season ended right before the drafts. Yeah, he's just been abused from the media.

I really do. I mean, it was a, I've never seen anything like it. But I remember in the back before he went out, there's like 200 people around him. Like, I looked like he just,

I don't even know what was going on. He's like a price fighter about the coming out. He's a feeding frenzy, bro. Yeah, I was like, What is this, man? So I'm happy that he handled it well. I'm happy that he came back after his first game and really played well.

I didn't really care how many points he scored or what he did. I just wanted to see his talent and see the way he moved. Defensively, he was already, I thought, he's a problem. He is a problem. And I wanted to see, you know, how he was walking around. I wanted to see how he wasn't the timeouts. I wanted to see how he wasn't the bench. I wanted to see his body language if he missed a couple of shots.

Like, and everything for me was extremely impressive. he's going to be a star. You mentioned Damian Lillard, and the big story since we've last spoken is Dame Lillard obviously has requested a trade, specifically to the Miami Heat. How do you feel about his legacy after years and years of being, like, making fun of people

that join super teams, leaving? Remember he told Paul George, you're running from the grind, and talking about how loyal he is, do you think he's erasing all of that right now with how he's handling, specifically only wanted to go to one team after he's under contract

for the next few years and everything? It's interesting, like you said He went from being like You know The poster boy for I'm gonna stay with one team And post it way for I'm gonna stay with one team Write it out It's not about winning rings

You know you can't just judge somebody off winning rings You can't just erase all the things they do in a season To being I don't want to come back here And I'm not playing anywhere unless it's Miami It's just like the script flip so I don't know And his agent saying I feel like other teams shouldn't get him He like won't play basically

Yeah like that that's that's that's nuts And the reason I say that is just because regardless of how good of a player you are, man, the NBA is not, it's a privilege. And if you were a free agent, then you could choose where you were going to go. That's the business. But when you're not and you sign a deal, man, that's part of the business, bro. If you get traded somewhere, like, you've got to go play, man. You know what I mean?

For sure. The whole, and this started with like James and Ben and all these guys doing this shit. It's bad for the league. This is why our CBA deal that we just signed and I don't even want to. get heavy into that. That thing is, don't even get me fucking started on that deal that we got going because it's top heavy. That's why you're seeing all these teams right now

with, you either make 50 million or two. It's the most lopsided contract teams. I mean, it's a joke, bro. I can't tell you how many mid-level guys are signing for vet minimum around the NBA. It's laughable. But,

yeah, it's just, it's a scary dynamic when you, when, when stars start acting like this, and I'm not a big fan of it. I got to be honest with you. And I'm a big fan of Damien. Everyone knows. I mean, I've had so many battles with him.

I've been in many playoff series against Damien. And he's probably one of the hardest players I've ever had to guard in my entire life. Everyone knows a clip where I had to like pray to God when he missed that shot. Because that's how good he is, man. Like you just got to hope he misses sometimes. But I don't like when stars do that because it's just like, what does every other player do? So because you're a good player, like you just don't have to show up. Yeah.

For me, it's specifically picking your team. You could want out. People want out. It's been happening for ages. Specifically picking what team you go to, really handcuffs the Blazers. The heat's best asset is Tyler Hero. The Blazers do not need Tyler Hero. They have a bunch of guards.

It's just, it's a messed up situation. It is a lot of time. That's what I'm trying to make it at 13. It's going to take forever. It's going to take some time. And you even saw the Portland Jam come out and say, if it takes months, it takes months. So the game's not going to play them?

So that's my thing. It's like, so now Damien's just not playing. That's just the bad luck. Which would suck not only for Damien, but for fans and guys who want to watch him play, whether you're a fan or a peer like myself. I love watching him play. And he's getting older.

I don't want to waste any years. Yeah, absolutely. So I really do hope it works out. Miami would be incredible for a guy like him. I mean, if they can even just keep him, Dame and Bam, you can build the rest out. You can build the rest out.

But if you're able to keep that as like your nucleus, it just fits. one, three, and essentially a four or five, whatever you want to call Bam. Today's days, he's both. He would be great there. But it is hard to picture him not playing because he's such a hooper. Yeah, he's not going to sit out. You can't go from the most loyal guy in the NBA to Ben Simmons.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to play. Yeah, I don't, me seeing him not play is just impossible for me just because he is, he's like an advocate for just wanting to just hoop, which is why he's lived in Portland his whole career. I mean, if this guy wanted like the show, he would have left Portland years ago and demanded a trade and been in the Lakers or the heat or wherever he wanted to go. But, you know, he's doing this now.

And I hope it works out. Shit, I hope it works out for my sake. Because he's him, him not, him doing this is kind of stalled a little bit of a lot of teams. Right. A lot of teams are like still trying to. James Hardin. Yeah, all these, you know, so now you got teams kind of saying if they can get him or three, now the third team's involved.

So this team's not making move. So like, there are so many talented free agents right now that are kind of waiting to sign, myself included. because they're kind of waiting for this deal to get done. So hopefully it does get done sooner than later. That would be dope. Let's talk about him if and when he's on the heat. Are there your favorites in the East?

They would be one of mine, yes. I could just imagine. I saw the last gay Vincent, but just imagine and Max Trues. How about Paul Pierce saying that they wouldn't make, they would probably want to make the playoffs or they wouldn't get out the first round? I mean, Paul Pierce is going through his own stuff. What an absurd con.

I've never seen such a team. talented basketball player because people forget this is how you know he says so much nutty shit. He says so much ridiculous shit that people now remember him and I say people, I say young players, young

people for this shit. Yeah. And don't even under, like people have no idea how good Paul Pierce was. Like you'll see it like when he like compared himself to Dwayne Wade and people like, oh, that's a joke. Listen, Dwayne Wade is a better, did have a better career as a better player. But it's not like some fucking like, yeah, it's not

some like long shot. Yeah. Like Paul Pierce was an absolute stud for the Celtics. For sure. And he played the majority of his career for the same team until he got, you know, a lot older. But he was dominant with, with Boston. Yeah.

People think about the Boston, obviously the 08, you know, Celtics teams. He took, you know, those early 2000s teams. She was the best player on a team that went to the conference finals. Yeah. Against the Nets. And yeah, he's, he's had a great. Yeah, people forget. Yeah, people forget really, you know.

I like the gate too. Ricky year. He was good. And I was very fortunate, like, to see. that because otherwise I probably would be in the same boat because Paul wasn't like a really flashy player. Yeah. So like his game just really kind of goes on notice, especially by the youth and people don't

really understand how good Paul was. So like for someone to be that good, to say comments like Eric Spolstra as your coach, Jimmy Butler alone as your wing, Damien Lillard as your point guard and bam as your as your four or five, wouldn't make the playoffs? like bro are you out of your mind? Well I just doesn't make sense They just went to the finals And he's just like you're adding Damia a little bit

They lost all those key players Those are the same key players That you guys didn't value at all a year ago Yeah And there's been a consistent Consensus like that Miami finds guys That people don't see a lot of value in And are able to plug them into situations

where they can be valuable players And show them they can play Yeah and then they let them get paid somewhere else And then they go get paid somewhere else Yeah, because they get paid, some of these guys got paid, like, ridiculous money. Yeah. Okay, well, let's get into free agency. I think the Lakers did a really good job.

Lakers did do a good job. Resigned D-Lo. For a good. Yeah, that's good. For a respectable contract. Right. Got Gabe Vincent. Got like that for another respectable contract.

They got him for 11 after he started in the finals. Right. I like getting Austin Reeves for. Bro, I don't believe. First of, we were trying to pump Austin Reeves up over here. Pause. We were over here trying to, we were trying to, like, you know, get his bag out. we over here talking that, you know, we thought he was going to get like a 70, 80, possibly even 90.

Right. I mean, you talk about Duncan Robinson, a lot of other guys who have gotten 80, 90 million dollar contracts. Yeah. Austin Reeves, I thought was in that wheelhouse. And, you know, he got to 50, which, again, it's $50 million is a shit ton of money. Is it a hometown discount? I mean, not hometown, but it is like the Lakers discount. Like, you want to play here, you know, we'll give you 50. You can go get 70 if you want to go play for the Wizards, but you can get, you can get 50 if you want to play here.

Right. So I think essentially that's what it was. and he made the smart decision. Don't ever chase the money. Chase the situation. That's my advice to any young player. Never, ever, ever, ever chase the money. Chase the situation, man.

That's in every aspects of life and even in business. Don't chase the money. Chase the best situation. The money will come. And I think that's what he did. He took less, or I don't know if he took less, but whatever. He took $52 million, which is still an obscene amount of money. And he's going to go play for the Lakers.

And he's going to be a huge piece, and he's going to continue to grow under LeBron Jane. and Anthony Davis and that whole franchise that they have a storied franchise over there. And his name is likeness. What he'll make off the court? He's got his own Chinese shoe. That's all Lakers. That's all Lakers, bro. If Austin Reeves played for the New Orleans Pelicans, I promise you, you wouldn't have his own shoe in China.

It just wouldn't happen. Yeah. That's no slight at him. That's every man. Obviously. You saw the market of where Kuzma was at when he was in L.A. and like, now he's with D.C., and like, you don't even hear about him. I mean, he obviously signed big money too because he's a good player, but it's just different market.

And a player can't really control a market unless you're like Janus level type shit. You know what I mean? For sure. So I thought the Lakers crushed free agency. Yeah, they also had Tori and Prince, Jackson Hayes, Graham Reddish. Great picks.

Who's one of those players, I think, they had the best free agency. They had the best free agency. They really did. And I think the Lakers are in a position now with LeBron James and AD there. After coming off of, people forget, like, they went to the conference finals last year.

No one thought they would. Like, everyone like talked about like when they lost, Like, man, you all got swept, but the Lakers went to the conference finals still. Yeah, they were a joke in the beginning of the season. They were the conference finals. To turn around and do that is insane, man. You know what I mean?

Like, you got to give your head off to them. And the fact that they're able to resign the key players that were part of that charge. They lost Shruder. They did Liss Shruder, who was big. They got Gabe Vincent, who's probably a little more steady. And what they need. He's more steady shooting-wise.

He cannot guard the way that Shruder guards. Yeah. Schroeder was an absolute havoc on the defensive end in the playoffs. He was great. Where did Schroeder go? He went to Toronto.

Yeah, that's just like, that's just the most ridiculous thing ever. What are you going to? I don't even know. They lost Fred Van Vleet. All right, let's get into the Rockets free agency. I mean, dying to talk to you about it. What's going on?

What do you think? It reminds me of, and, okay, so Dylan Brooks, 80 million. I didn't know who was going to get that. I'm happy to God. for him. I didn't know he was going to get that. Everybody's making the China jokes and this guy just gets it back. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm happy for him. Yeah. Go get your money. I want every player to get paid.

You said it yourself. Guys, you're getting the max or they're getting minimum right now and somehow there's a pocket where he got, you know, 20 million. Houston gave it to him. That's where you get, you want to know who does this? Houston. Houston, Houston paid this guy 80 million. They paid Fred, what did Fred get? Oh, it's crazy. He's getting like 40 something a year, bro. Yeah. Holy shit. And I actually not love Fred too. Fred's got game. Fred's got game.

Yeah. He can really hoop. The reason I was confused by the signing is because they still have KPJ there. They have Jalen. They just drafted the Thompson twin. Along with the other guy, Cam Whitmore. So they have all these wings and guards. They're just going to be a weird team of young players, old players.

Sometimes it works times it doesn't. But a lot of people. more high volume scores, man. I mean, this is a bunch of guys that like to put the ball up. Fredman Fleet is a great player. He's a good player. So they're trying.

When you make those signs, you're trying to compete, who throws that much money without unless you're trying to compete? No, that's what I'm saying, but I don't know what it does. But they're not going to compete. Yeah, that's what it's not a good.

It's like a free, it's like a fantasy basketball team, but not a good one. So do you think you keep Jalen Green? You have to. He's a focal point. Jalen's a guy. The focal point out of this. We got the band bleeds.

You're just drafted the Thompson. Definitely fleets my age. Jabari Smith was, I thought, was the best player in Summer League. He played two games, scored 30 both years. No, no, no, no. Jabari Smith's the player they got to build around. We forgot about Jabari Smith. You saw all at Shangoon.

People were saying they should build around. They should run the offense around. No, no, no, no, no. The Houston Rockets. Wait, wait, is this a good problem to have? They have so many players. It's so many players at the same position. Who are they competing with when they, when they were like, when they gave him 80 million?

Who was offering him anywhere in that realm? They did. Who's, I don't. There wasn't even talks of him. It's pretty crazy. Like I said, I'm happy. And I will say, eventually, he's underrated because people are blaming, you know, the grisies losing and blaming it on him. It's not his fault. He got a lot of hatred because he ran his mouth way too much, and we all know that.

He was out of pocket. He went out, LeBron James. But I love his, his, I like Dylan's dog. I like that he goes at any star. I like that he don't ask his, you know, the stars. He didn't do that. I don't know what he would be in there. Exactly. He needs that.

That's part of who he is. And by the way, it's the same cloth that, you know, the Pat Beverly's and Draymonds of the world do, by the way. You know what I mean? You just got to be able to back it up. Pat doesn't have to because his game doesn't require it. He's not a guy that puts to put up numbers. So Pat Beverly is able to kind of go out there

and talk crazy to people because his only job on the court is just a guard and just cause mayhem. He don't have to go out there and score 16, 70 points in game. So it's a little bit harder because when Dylan talks to talk, He's really got to back it up. And the same with Draymond.

Draymond doesn't have to score 20. Draymond has, but Draymond's a different level because he really does back it up. But whatever the case may be, it's just strange signings. When you look at all these signings where you see one guy go for minimum and then you see another guy go for a certain amount of money, there's no rhyme or reason.

There's no consistency with it. There's no, there's no correlation between how good you are and how much you get paid. No, no, no. I told some of this the other day. I have never seen the NBA have so many players in the NBA that are barely good enough to be in the NBA or not even in I I there's so many guys

who were getting paid money that like you're like bro what is and this is this is and again I'm not going to say no names because I'm not we're not into doing that here we're not going to ever slight somebody we could talk about contracts and why they're larger than what we thought they were going to be but at the end of day me and you both come from basketball backgrounds we're both happy that everyone gets their money man

I want all these guys to make a hundred to $200 million. I want them all to eat as much as they can, seriously, because the owners are making much more. I'm just saying the NBA right now in terms of like making sense, it doesn't. Yeah. And you're seeing a lot of players get some of these contracts and a lot of players not getting contracts or getting a certain contract. You're like, what is going on? Yeah. Why is this guy worth 70, 80 and this guy's worth four? Yeah. Are you saying this guy's 60 times better than him? You just said it with the Gabe Vincent, Max Drews, you said...

Yeah, as I, Gay Vincent was like the key player in the finals. Max Trues was, no offense, but you had... If anyone watched the Lakers Grizzly series, would you think that Austin Reers would make less now annually than Dylan Brooks? Point to taken. Exactly. So it's like, there's no rhyme or reason why someone gets to certain money anymore. That's my problem, is that the money does not reflect the player anymore.

And there's always been guys who have gotten overpaid or gotten a contract too big. That happens occasionally. And those are the ones that everyone remembers. Yeah. You can't even... This won't be a thing anymore. You know, in the past, you'd be like the worst contracts of all time. And then, you know, this guy's name will pop up and this guy's name will pop up.

No, it's gone. That's gone anymore because there's no rhyme or reason why anybody gets paid anymore. I don't know why. Dylan Brooks makes $30, $40 million more than also. Anyway, by the way, it changes all the time. When Michael Porter Jr. got his big deal, I was like, man, this guy misses a lot of time. Apparently has all these back issues. Then he went to title.

He's the third best player of the team. And I'm like, man, that's a good. Everything's going really well for him. Fourth best player. Aaron Gordon's more important. Aaron Gordon's the third best part in the Denver. And I love Mike. Mike's the homie.

And I'm not saying that because offensive talent, just for what Aaron does fit-wise, for Yokage in terms of him being in the dunker and the lobs and the past. And defensively, what he did last year in the playoffs, he's one of the most underrated players in the league of my opinion. And Aaron has provided extreme value to the Nuggets. I think he was a third best player in that team last year.

But your point taken, though, yes. What do you think about them losing Bruce Brown, which I get it? They're not going to pay him that much money. Let him go. Bruce Brown's making $20-something million a year. Yeah, they couldn't pay him that much money anyways. Let him go.

But they didn't add any pieces. I think Justin Holiday. I think they're just hoping. I like Justin Holiday. Yeah, but they lost their sixth man. And what they did with their money was they resigned Reggie Jackson. I think it's two year 10. Which is so strange because they didn't even play them.

And they only had one spot to pay someone more than minimum. And they gave that money to Reggie Jackson. Yeah, it's just. Who they're not playing. And he was like, I mean, he was ready to get a, out of there, man. Like you could just see it on his face, you know what I mean? But, you know, maybe they use him now. You know,

they're going to have to now. Yeah. Or they're hoping that Christian Brown steps up into the Bruce Brown. His minutes are going to go up. They love him there. He played well as a rookie. You would have to imagine that he's going to be a focal point for their growth in the future and stability.

Yeah, they weren't going to pace Bruce Brown two years 40. I'm happy for Bruce because he deserved it. He fucking bawled. And he balled all playoffs. He bawled in Every single series. Did you hear what he said about the Timberwolves team that you were on? He said they would give him the hardest.

He was the hardest series we had throughout that run was the Timber Wolves. And that's, you know, it's crazy. He said that because I'm watching these playoffs. And I'm like, God, we were just unlucky to get Denver first round. Yeah. Because, like, we would have beat everybody.

And Jaden McDaniels. If we had Jaden McDaniels. And Nas Reid on our team. And they said that was already the hardest series and you were missing two of huge players. Yeah. Like, you know, that's not going to be a team. team that everyone's going to look that are sleeping on right now. I know everyone gives a hard time to

Carl, which we can get into his comments. His comment. But, but we got to get him back on the pod. If he's going to be talking like that, we got to get him back on the pot of play. You know what, though? I'm glad you brought that up because it'd be interesting. I would like some feedback from the fans. I don't even know how we can do that. Maybe through our Twitter, people can DM us or message me back. Maybe we can do like an open talk on Twitter or something. We are creating an Instagram page and Twitter page. We've been slow to do that. But that's all to come. I try to get guys on the pod and have good talks

and we try to make sure we protect them because I don't want guys coming on the pod and us putting stuff out there for click and bait and then regretting coming on. And then regretting coming on. And it seems like, and I like Pat Bev's pod, but like bro, you go on there and these guys are just saying stuff

that are great. Pat's doing his thing. He has a great pod, and he has guys going on there, and he's getting views. But, like, Carl's comments. Yeah. Dremont's comments. I want to get into Dremont's comments, because that sparked up a feud that I thought was over. You know, Jordan Poole's on a different team now.

Yesterday was insane. You could say that it ruined the Warrior season last year before it even started, and now you're already starting off the next year, talking about it, creating drama. Like, let it go. It's in the past. take a break and we'll come back and get into it. All right, let's get into it.

The Draymond stuff, Jordan Poole, Jordan Poole's dad. It's, I just can't believe we're still talking about it. And for Dremont, didn't you, you admitted that it hurt your season last year with the Warriors and your chances of repeating. It's so strange. So why are you getting back into it?

First of all, he's talked about it, bro. He's talked about it so much. And I know he has his own podcast, so that's part of his job now. Listen, I got a lot of respect for Dremon, but he's broughten up this Jordan Poole situation Jordan hasn't said a fucking thing about it

he let it go he posted some Gunna lyrics but that was after everything Do you like that has I knew it was like of all rappers you're posting like and I like Gunner too I'm a fan of his music

but you know he's not exactly the guy that you probably want to be posting right now okay with everything being going on with that free thug but we it's just it's

It's, it's, he goes on Pat's pod. And he's like, he openly apologized during season. He's like, you know, I never met it to go that far. And things happened. If my parents saw it, this and that, I know how they would feel. I know how they'd feel and all these things. And I apologize. And I apologize to his parents and this, this and that.

And then he goes on the pod and goes, obviously, I didn't hit him for no reason. Because after a time, I think he's like, well, there's a reason. Like, you have to start defending yourself. Over time, you defend yourself. Over time, you defend yourself. Exactly. And he's like, you know, I didn't, you know, and I do understand what he's saying. He's like, bro, he didn't just say one comment, and I just snapped and punched him.

He did snap, though, on a fake KG quote on Twitter. Did you see that? The annoying thing is a fake quote. Yeah, it was a fake quote. Twitter needs to clean that up anyways. KG's response was just like, brous, KG could have came back with some, like, real fire on him. I think he's matured. But exactly.

No, no, no, I'm really impressed with KG's, like, mature. I mean, he really was just like, bro. He was like, bro. Fake tweet, Elon fixed this. Like, it was just thinking, I was like, I'm not dealing with this right now. Yeah. But, uh, Drey wants, I think, was just really defensive right now. I think he's just, people, that's all people talk about.

He got his deal. You know, I mean, that was a big thing, right? People were like, who got paid. He got paid. You stayed on your team. You got your core back. You got all the players that you won with. You got everything that you won with.

You got everything that you, wanted. Like, why are we talking about this again? If Pat Beverly brings it up in the pod, like, hey, man, you know what? It's crazy. What happened? It's still something I think about all the time. I wish like, man, I wish I could have handled that differently. I'm sure he wishes the same thing, too. Jordan's a hell of a talent. He's going to crush it in DC, man. So, like, at this point, at this point, like, I'm just ready to do PR. Yeah, that was. Yeah, right. At this point, I'm just ready to move on. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so now it's like, bro, what are we doing here? What did you think about Jordan's dad kind of? Here's, okay, I'm going to take two parts

this. As a parent, I understand it. Someone fucking sucker punch my kid. I don't want to smoke of him too. And a year later, still talking about it. Still talking about it. And then goes on and said, obviously, he said something man to man. Now, if I'm someone's dad, I'm like, listen, bro, you got a problem, you can come see me. So I respect it. The whole

apology thing to him, Draymond, oh, you know, apology. Yeah. Okay. Your son's a grown-ass man. He lives a grown-ass life and he makes grown-ass money. He was talking that shit, which he was, you could see in the fucking video. By the way, in terms of who put hands, on the other person first,

Jordan shoved him. Yeah. Well, I think he got, with Draymond, he closed the distance. He closed the distance on him. He still shoved him out the way. And as soon as you put hands on someone,

it's time to put your hands up. That's rule number one. I would never go up to someone and shove him and be like, yeah, especially, what's the word I'm looking for? Well, that's why Jordan Clarkson always has his hands up.

He always says the Duke's up whenever he's getting to. He needed to do it. Casey's stance as soon as he pushed her. Plus, personnel is everything. Like, bro, know who you're pushing. Yeah. You're not pushing Steph Curry. Who would, like, probably push you back or, like, look at you, like, bro, what are you doing?

Or just get you kicked off the team. Yeah, have you with the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it gets you clicked off with him. He'd get you the whimby backslap. The security comes through. Security got to start the building. You push Steph Curry, you're probably hoop in Alaska next year.

But that's, that's your know there. He pushed a guy that is known to be a hothead. And listen, I know Dremont does his thing, but Dramon like the league in techs. Dremont usually is upper in the league of leading the league in techs. He's a very high, emotional guy. Let's call him intense. I've had so much dialogue with this guy.

If you say one comment with him, it's the rest of the game with him, bro. He'll just be on you. He's also posts on Instagram and support of you, too. I have no problem with Dremont. I like Dremont. I'm just keeping it 100 right now. I mean, you would love him on your team.

Yeah, I like competing against him too. I think it's fun. Bro, first of all, I have nothing more respect for Draymond. We've already made that clear. He's a Hall of Fame career, yada, yada. That's why I said to whatever part. I was like, I respect Draymond. Whatever.

I don't want to go into why I respect him. It's obvious. He's a Hall of Fame player. We came in the same draft class together. Both been in the league for 11 years plus. This guy has a Hall of Fame career. Of course, I respect him. And besides that, like, I actually like the guy.

And me and him actually have like a rapport. We're not close friends or anything like that. But every time we see him, it's all love. It's all respect. I got nothing negative to say about Draymond. I'm just keeping it a fucking hundred right now. I'm also looking at the people from the outside. I'm not in that situation.

I don't play for the worries. I don't know what exactly was said or what actually happened. I'm just observing all the information and data that I have just like you. Let me get into some rapid fire with you. Go ahead. First question. I've been wanting to talk to you about this. USA team, I know you are like very underwhelmed by the roster.

Obviously all good players, but they're missing like the Durants, the debuts, like the big names that have kind of helped us through the years. And Team Canada was just announced. And I'm just going to go through Team Canada's team. They have Shea, Jamal Murray, they have R.J. Barrett, Lou Dort, Dylan Brooks, Kelly Olinick, Dwight Powell, Nikilae, Nikol, Nikol, Nik, O'Shea, Bressette, Kevin Pangos, and Zach Edie. That's a top-to-bottom, like NBA roster. Yeah.

And you know it was on Team USA. Brunson, Edwards, McKell Bridges, Brandon Ingram, Sharon Jackson. Do I think we have an underwhelming USA team? Yes, I do.

Do I think we're going to win? Yes, I do. But the backcourt of Canada is, I think it's the best backcourt you can put together. Shea and Jamal Murray is an insane backcourt. They definitely have the best backcourt. And you throw in defenders like Lou Dore and Dylan Brooks. Like when someone's going off,

you're going to throw Lou Dord on it. Bernie Ingram's going on. No, no, no. It's going to be a good game. Either team could win. Yeah. But everyone's like, man, Canada, they're coming up. We got the best.

It's like, bro, we don't even have our, this is like our C team, man. I know, but that's not their fault that the USA's no, no, no, I know this, but everyone's like comparing Canada versus USA right now. So it's not even a fucking comparison. If you wanted to throw Steph and LeBron and our guys in there, we beat the shit out of everybody, like we've done every year. Last Olympics, when, I think it was right after the Bucks won the title, you know, we played, you know, either France or Australia, one of those teams.

And they needed KD's like, he had to step up and make over and over again, like big time shots. That's what you had to carry. Yeah. Carried that fucking team. You don't have that and your best players, you know, we're a big Anthony Edwards podcast.

We love Ante. Anthony's your best player. If him and Brennan Ingram are your two best players. They are their best two scores. That they're going to have to like lead you. If you're second quarter and you're down 10. I do feel. They have to,

what's going to happen? I feel Jalen Brunson is going to dominate Fiba. He just has that type of game. He's going to dominate. He's such a crafty little guard, bro. Like him down there. He's just going to, you know what I mean?

Like he's just going to be just doing this. His little footwork, just maneuvering around. And Jaron Jackson's a really good big for Fibah, too. He is. He's a great, yeah, yeah. Defensive player of the year could be, you know, versatile towel on both sides of the floor. I still have USA favorite.

Yeah. When I say underwent. When I say it's one game, like Shay could go off, John Murray. I mean, these, R.J.A. Barrett could go off. Yeah, no, no, no. Canada can beat them. And if they had Andrew Wiggins, it would be a real problem. That's what's interesting because, but here's my thing.

Canada's got to prove it. They didn't have this roster. but they had a pretty talented roster last summer they didn't even qualify. Yeah. So they got to get guys that are going to play together. Yeah, and another thing,

USA usually has problems. They had Wiggins. That'd be even... That'd be a problem. USA usually has problems with teams that have been together forever. Like France, those guys have been playing together for 20 years,

Australia, 20 years. Canadian team together. Yeah, yeah. So they're kind of the same boat as USA. Yeah, they're the same boat as USA. Same amount of like pros. USA's roster still is better

because their bench is better than, like, Listen, I like Kevin Pango's and all these other guys. These guys can play. They're not Tyreys Halliburton. Okay. And like, you know, Austin Reeves and the other guys that they have on this team, they don't have those level professional basketball players on their bench.

Yeah. With that being said, they do have some really good pros. And in an NBA game and a must win game and a big game, because you know they're going to meet up at some point. You're only playing seven, eight guys anyway. So it doesn't matter who your whole fucking roster. Right. Your game's not decided by the, yeah.

Your ninth best player is mine. Yeah, your ninth best player, but we beat you. It's going to be. It's going to be. It's going to. It's going to. Edward. It's going to be Shane Anthony Edwards.

What are you about to say? That's great. I mean, I hate to do this. I always do this with you, but who are you taking rest of their career? Shia or Anthony Edwards. Have I asked you this before? Anthony Edwards. Yeah, I asked your dad that one.

That was a second name, man. Yeah. All right. Next rapid fire question. That was good, though. I can't wait to see it. It would be a good game. We're not going to, you know, right now there's a dead period.

Obviously, no basketball. I think what TBT is on right now. But I'm excited for Fiba. So next question for you. Are you, as far as non-refering, basketball activities. Are you as good at anything as stuff Korea as at golf? This guy has been unbelievable.

We were like talking about it, me and your sister. It's, why is he so good? I don't know, but this is what I'll tell you. It's annoying. It's annoying. I don't like. No, no, and this is full hater mode right now. Let's hear it.

I'm a full hater for the next 15 seconds. Let me go. it bothers me how good he is at golf. He's like a fucking scratch pro. You know what? I think it bothers golfers that he's that good at golf. You're the best point guard, potentially of all time,

best shooter of all time, and you're doing this. And you're just going out there and holding ones and shit. And like you're just, you're competing against other pros winning tournaments. Like, bro. And he just does it so naturally,

even when they handed him the fucking ball and he launched and he just cashed and just casually walks away. I'm just like, bro, what is this guy? It's, I hope we look back. I got it at 50 years now. And he has, he has like good work ethic. It's not like great.

It's a fact. No, Steph's like in the gym. Don't, don't get me wrong. He works. But there's like crazy work ethic guys. There's guys that like the ninth man on a team that like live in the gym all day. That's what just goes to show you how much of the game is mental. It's not just about you living in a gym.

Like Steph's confidence in like ability, his hand-to-eye coordination is obviously what it is. It's just I don't, it bothers me how good he is at golf. Just narrow it back to that. All right. I watched those highlights and I didn't press the like button. I got my burner account and I'm one of those guys in like the IG comments like, get this, why aren't, why isn't he in a gym? No, I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding. But, no, seriously. It's, it's, it's, it's, he's incredible, man. He's incredible. He's, he's, he's a, have you noticed that it's, it's quarterbacks, it's pitchers, it's shooters. They're really good at golf and other, like, hand-eye coordination. They are, but they're not.

Tony Romo's won that tournament before. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. You know, I'm friends with Johnny Manziel. He's, you know, he's quarterback, obviously not anymore. But he's like a really, really good golfer also. I don't know. There's something to it.

Yeah. There's definitely like Ray Allen. Ray Allen, yeah. Yeah, like all the guys who are like really good shooters of marksmen. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah. But yeah, he's like when he won that tournament, like the clips of him golfing, everyone in the comments wasn't like the previous series.

We're like, oh, stuff's a good golfer. It's now becoming like, what isn't this fucking guy good at? and why is he so good at everything he does? And why is he so good at fucking golf? Like, you could have been a pro. If he put all of his time to work on his golf game all year around, he could go play in the PGA tour. And it's also, he's just super likable, man.

Like, his approval rating has got to be the highest. First off, I've never seen him get dripped out in my entire life. And some photos just came out the other day where he's walking around in New York. And he's like designer down and like has some shit on. I'm like, what is going on? Yeah, listen, he's won the titles. It's time for him to enjoy it a little bit. Yeah, no, he's now finally starting to enjoy the fruits of his labor.

It looks like a little bit. He's starting to get out. See him at the Drake concert. He's sitting on stage. You know, he's had a drink in his hand. He's, I'm just like, I like this stuff, though. Yeah. He's kind of...

Be a little human. Jesus. Yeah, yeah. Just be like a little more, real, bro. Yeah, can you? Yeah. It feels weird, bro. Like, I'll be honest, man.

Like, I'm pulling up to the game and like... Or one of these guys pulled up to the game like a Rolls Royce or a G-Wag. And like this guy comes in like a $50,000 Tesla. You know like this guy's made like eight times so much as me. It's about to drop 40 and I'm like, we got our jewelry on and my Rolex on or my nice while all of us walk in and everybody's so dripped out and this, this and this guy just like walks in.

It was like those little express jeans and fucking like Tommy Hill picture and shoes and just casually walks into the cord and everyone likes him. Just gives 30, 40, making like five times what we all make. It just goes back home. It's just like it. I could see how it to make you mad. It just be like, what the fuck, bro?

Can you can you can you can you can you can you? Can you? Can you? Can you. I don't want to be in it no more. I don't want to drive it anymore. I don't feel like I deserve it. I'm just like you're calling your Tesla.

Tesla. Tesla I'm calling fucking Volvo bro. I'm like I'm just like come on man. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's just like just can you a little bit be like the rest of us and just splurge a little bit? Because like it's not like I haven't deserved it or any of the rest of the guys who

splurge haven't. These guys worked our entire life to get the NBA. I saved most of my money but yeah do I have a little money that I like like to have have fun with and enjoy the fruits of my labor, of course. And this guy is just so normal. It's nice to kind of see him get out there a little bit. And again, I'm stretching and he just had some nice clothes on or whatever. But still, like, it's dope.

It's dope. And yeah, he's a fucking legend, man. Next question for you. You just spent time in Vegas. If you had a bachelor party coming up, would you want to be one of those guys that does it in Vegas? No. No.

So it's not for you? No. I'm not a big, but I'm not a party guy. I'll, like, go out and turn up with my friends, like, every once in a while, but, like, I don't like... Think you're a dinner guy. Yeah, to go to dinner and, like, you had the drinks at dinner. Yeah, I like to... I mean, how many times do it when we go to dinner?

I'm like, let's just go back to my house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like dinner and then, like, let's just go back to the crib. I don't, I'm not like a... I don't want to be in the club at 4 a.m. I don't want to be in the club at 3 a.m. Nothing good happens, usually. It's fucking dangerous.

I went to the Usher concert while we were there for Summer League. How was that? That was... It was electrifying. It was unbelievable. I'm going to tell you right now. I left the day of. I love the day of.

I left the day of. Yeah. It was unreal. I actually went with your brother and your sister. It was unreal. This guy went for three hours, barely, I don't think any breaks. He's in his 40s. The dance moves, he's in his prime.

The dance moves. I knew every song for that long. He's got to be the king of R&B. This guy has so many hits for two decades. He's definitely up there. The performance, at one time he was on roller skates. And I'm like, this guy's in his 40s on roller skates. doing tricks, it was crazy.

And he did not, I was so nervous. Was it packed? Was it packed? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's funny because he did like a shoutout thing at the end. And Bradley Beale and Fred Van Bleet and I think Contevis called Bob. They were all in the front right there.

And he's just shouting people out. He's like, Bradley Beal, thanks for showing up. Blah, oddly enough, he goes, Rich Paul, I see you out there. And you got the biggest applause from everyone there. It was crazy. I was like, did you just hear that? Rich Paul got like the more than NBA players. So who got it?

Who got the shout out to Brad? And then he goes, and then he goes, I see Fred, he goes, Fred Flan Fleet, he like messed up the name. And then you see on the big screen, it was Fred Van Bleet, like laughing because he, like, messed up his name. Called him Flan Fleet or something. Flan Fleet is nuts. It was hilarious.

But it was, the concert was unbelievable. But before you go, I'm to Wimbledon. I'm a huge tennis fan. Tell me about it. I'm jealous. Make me mad. You know, I was telling somebody, it was fun to watch. I've never been to a tennis match, let alone Wimbledon.

And you saw Alcarat. He's like LeBron. To see. coming. The next 20 years was exciting because that's what essentially we saw. And I was trying to explain this to my fiance. I was like, we're not just watching a great player. Yeah. I was like, you're watching. You're watching like third year, LaBron, second year. We're getting to watch young Federer. We're watching young Jokovic. Jokovic, by the way, is brilliant. He was unbelievable in that match. For sure. And yeah, it just, it was, and we didn't get to see the

Jokevich match because I'd be talking about that too. But we saw him play against Hunger. Hulger, who's actually a really good player as well. For sure, he's also, I think. He's top five. Yeah, he's 20 years old, too. I think they're both 20, yeah. I mean, yeah, he was giving him some trouble a little bit.

That'll be a rivalry for you. Yeah, he was really good. It just over time, Alcari just wore him down. Alcarez is just... He's a freak out. Yeah, he's just unbelievable, man. And it was really undisputting the Djokovic match because Jokovic won the first set.

And even in the beginning set, he was giving him, a little bit of problems. And you can see, like, Al-Corez was getting frustrated. He kept looking over his people, like, saying stuff. And the way he was able just to respond and just started wearing him down to where Jokovic was just like, fuck, bro. Like, Jokovic had an amazing hit, an impossible return for most players. And he just, the ball just, he's a ping-ball, but he's a backboard, bro.

The ball's just coming back. Yeah. And then you add that he has velocity and speed and spin and touch around the ball. I can't wait for Al-Corez's English to get a little better. he'll be really like a possible. Once his English grows, he's going to be a global superstar. Because in his interviews, you could see, like, everyone in London wanted him to, like, say something. And he just, you know, he's just not there yet.

He's still young. He's his cultural thing, you know, but he's going to get there. You know, he's like, ah, you know, he was like rambling on a little bit, but still learning. But how classy was Wimbledon? Because I've heard this crazy things like when you're there. Like, did you feel out of place at all that game? No, no, no, no, no. We got dressed up.

I mean, I was, I was, I was paddicked up. I brought out all the big stuff. I was in there with some nice polo, nice pants, hair gel. You saw a lot of celebrities there? Yeah, we saw a couple people. I didn't talk to any of them. I talked to Jimmy.

Shout out to Big Face. He was in there representing, all of his T-shirt and stuff had Big Face on an owl hat. He was branding, for sure. He was actually sitting with Alcraz's team, which was really dope. Yeah, I've seen that they post each other and stuff. Yeah, he was literally sitting with his train. I mean, it's big time.

Does it make you want to play tennis? It's not like, are we going to be able to play? No, my fiance was literally like, I've never been in a tennis. That was one of the most funnest things I've ever watched. She goes, these guys are incredible athletes. I was like, I'm trying to tell you, people don't understand it in America until you go watch these guys play. And you get an appreciation for how hard they're hitting that fucking ball. Because you don't understand, like, I'll go watch you and my sister play or you and someone play.

And you're like, oh, these guys are good at tennis because you guys can play a little bit. You guys play tennis. And then you guys go watch these guys play. And they're serving 130 miles per hour. And they're returning, spin and touch. and it's the lobs over and the right on the line in the rules the etiquette the judge the way the ball boys and the ball girls are so serious about their job and like adjana's like you know my fiancee that is she's taking all this in we're taking all this in about like the etiquette and prestige of this sport and i think a lot of people shove it off in america because it isn't an elita sport you usually do have to have money the stories of like how alcarez and jokovic and all these guys started like all these guys play tennis in a pool an empty pool so they'd have a backboard to tennis because they didn't have a rich country club to grow up in and So it turns a lot of people off, same with golf. And then you kind of just get past that because you have to if you're going to appreciate a sport.

And you go watch these guys play. And you're like, holy shit, man. It was unbelievable. It was one of the most fun sporting events I've ever been to in my entire life. I would love to play tennis with you, by the way. I hope you get into it. I haven't played since. I played the coach of the magic, Jamal Mosley's wife, plays tennis over here at Winter Park Racket Club.

And I played her about a month ago. And she beat me straight sets. I don't want to tell you the score, but she murdered me. And I haven't touched the racket since. It was embarrassing. And I'm kind of the one that beats all my friends. But, you know, it's a different level. So I haven't played since, but I would love to play.

We should play some time. We'll get into it. All right. Are we good? We've wrapped up. We talked about it. We talked about a lot. I mean, it's been a lot.

Yeah, we had a lot to digest and unload. So we did that and hope. Are you going to see the Barbie movie? Have you been able to open up your phone and not run into a Barbie ad? It's kind of getting annoying. And they did a great job marketing it. The marketing is insane. But now we're watching videos about how great they've marketed it.

I can't get away from it. First, it was just the marketing. Now I can't get away from how well they have marketed. Airbnb and they have this and they have commercial. I'm just like, bro, I get it, man. And the reviews of the movie itself are like average. Are they? They are.

It's just crazy. Like, there's a Barbie Air Force One. You can put that on and go get your Barbie. Chalupa from Taco Bob. I'm just like, you, enough. Like, it's everywhere. Yeah.

It's, it's, yeah. I mean, I listen, if I had a movie, I hope that guy does, I'll be Markets mine. I mean, you're gonna be everywhere. Yeah.

You go from like a star to like global, very, I mean, it's all over in Europe, bro. There's Barbie things everywhere. Everywhere. People have Barbie themed parties. They haven't seen the movie.

Like, it's just crazy. It is an iconic. It's Barbie, though. If people are doing Barbie theme parties and you haven't seen the movie yet. Like, what if you see the movie, you just, You just like are barbieed out already.

And it's the actors. Like Ryan Gossing is like a stud. Margot Margotty's fucking gorgeous. She's all right. Yeah, she's cool. Man, get out of it. No, she's obviously. What do we do?

She's not like my celebrity go-to, but she's... Who would be your celebrity go-to? Um... Out of curiosity. Do a leap, but I mean, it's not a bad picture. That's a great pig. I don't know. That's just something that came to top of my mind.

Jack Harlow? That didn't work out for me either. Am I allowed to ask who yours is? But I know, we can't even touch that. No, we can't do that. All right. Well, see you next week. All right, man.

This has been a blast. I appreciate everybody always who tunes in. Make sure you guys subscribe and continue to watch, continue to listen. Glad to be back. We're going to have these rolling out now. We'll be back next week with another episode. Y'all have a safe weekend. Be easy.