The Ringer NBA Show - Will Russ to L.A. Work? Plus the Latest in NBA Free Agency | Real Ones 

Episode Date: August 2, 2021

Logan and Raja open up talking about the Lakers acquiring Russell Westbrook and how he and LeBron will coexist (8:19). Then, they discuss what the draft does for the Warriors' championship window (30:58). Plus: the latest in free agency surrounding Chris Paul and Kyle Lowry (48:46). Leave a message for our mailbag at 510-469-0294 or email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Logan Murdock and Raja Bell Associate Producer: Stefan Anderson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Raja Bell in the building. What's popping, Roger? How you doing, Doug? I'm good, bro. Hey, you know what I have a beef with? Can I tell you while I'm at? Can I tell you why I'm at? Okay.

I mean, we don't have to tell you why I'm mad. Let's go ahead. All right. Appointments, bro. What is like, this is forever. I'm not the first person to beef about this, but I don't understand what a 10 o'clock appointment means

if I'm still sitting in the waiting room at 1045, 1050. And I have to, to ask you if you've forgotten my son's appointment. Right? Like, people have shit to do. Like, I can't just, I've taken time out of my day. We've scheduled around this 10 o'clock appointment to get a cast removed.

So when we're still sitting there at 1050, you've effectively fucked up my morning. It's not cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right? I mean, I just want to do that. Also, I feel you on that, man.

I have a, there's, there's the appointments, like, especially doctors appointments. I don't know if we're past this and just give this up, but barber's appointments. How about that? How about barber appointments, right? Can you, like, you're like, every barber that I've ever had in my life. And, you know, shout out to the barbers because, you know, black people got like a real, we got a real strong bond relationship with our barbers.

However, y'all motherfuckers are always late on us. We get a, I get an appointment, you know, especially when you know, you get the first appointment at 11. You're trying to get in and get out. That's why you get the first appointment. Yes. When your barber comes at 1125 and is mad at you for like following up, like, hey, bro, like, I got stuff to do, man. I'm scheduling out. You just put me on a tangent.

Yeah. But we're here, though. You know what? Stay true to your word and stay true to your, to your commitments. I have some good news for you. Oh, okay. Please do. You know what today is?

I don't. Is it a one-year anniversary? It's August 2nd. It is the one-year anniversary of the real one-year anniversary of all. Clap it up, clap it up, clap it up, clap it up. But listen, you know somebody's been married for a long time when you can ask them from shit like that and their brain starts an anniversary?

I miss that. Well, you said that, you know what? You said that in a way like, I'm going to be messed up. And it has nothing to do with me or the thing. It's because you're married and you did it in a combative way of like, I fucked up maybe. You're like, oh, it's our anniversary? Like, default.

Default. Default. My default. My default. My default. What? It's our anniversary, man. Clap it up, man.

Clap it up. Could it be here. Clap it. Clap it. Yeah, man. Shout out to you, man. We've done it for a year, dog. And it don't really feel like a year.

And I know that it's just, I remember we've come a long way. So shout out to all the real ones out there before we were even a real one show. Before we had a name before we had a name for me, the Monday edition of the Ringer NBA show, which is a long-ass title. But, you know, shout out to the real one. Shout out to everybody out there. Now, what I'll add out the way, I have to get to some, I have a pressing question. question for you, Roger. The streets need to know something. And I honestly need to know something because, you know, it affects me. This is the question that I know you've been waiting for for a week. And I need an answer to it. So I was, you know, we were in the chat and our podcast, Lee TD, put in the chat that Mike Dan Tony is leaving the Brooklyn Net staff. And obviously that gives us questions. So how long are you going to be on the real ones? And when are you going to the reporting for the Brooklyn?

because you didn't like when you were in the chat you gave an eyes and you didn't necessarily didn't you didn't it wasn't very strong i don't know what's what's going on raja i've always prided myself on keeping people on their toes right like you never want anyone to get too comfortable with you i mean you don't you want people to always kind of wonder what's going on with that having said that i've had no discussions with steve nash my d antony's job would not be one that i would qualify for anyway like you know what i mean like his absence is is is going to to need to be filled by someone with way more experience and way more ability to help Steve on his journey than I would be able to. So they're not connected in one way or another. But I haven't talked to Steve at all. So we're cool. We're one year moving, baby. Come on you.

You would ask me that on our anniversary? That's not anniversary conversation, bro. You can tell you ain't married. That an anniversary dinner conversation. I'm not. It's like, I basically just said it a lot of ways, if I was buried, I'm basically, I actually said this to my wife. I was like, hey, yo, happy anniversary, boo, so when you leaving me? That's what you just said. That's basically what I just did, right?

At the dinner. Hey, Queen, you know, this was great. We had dinner right now. You know, I just, you know what I mean? We went to crustaceous in the city. What's happening? So when you leaving? I heard that you leave it and I heard that you out here. But anyway, so now, forget all that. I still have a follow-up question to that because you pride yourself on keeping people on their toes. Let's keep people on their toes. So if Steve Nash were to call you, and say, hey, Roger, you know, you're my man, 20 grand. I've known you for a long time. You've got me through a lot of stuff.

You know what I mean? You know, there's a lead assistant job that Mike Dantonie is like, is vacant. Is vacant. Do you want this job? What is Roger Bell's response? You said lead assistant? Or whatever. It's a high assistant.

It's a higher assistant position? High assistant, a high assistant position. So for those who don't know, David Vanderpoole, who is, I've talked about him at likes on the show is a really good friend of mine as well. Like we were, we were teammates together in the CBA. We go back. We go way back. Um, Amari's on that staff. There are a lot of reasons that would be a really attractive job. Um, always wanted to live in New York. I would just say, I would see what I hear every day, guys? You see what we hear? I would just say this. I would go through the same exercises I did the last time Steve asked me, right? Like, I have to lay that out.

There are a lot of things going on in our world as a family. Um, and the pluses and minuses. One of the major factors last time, I haven't talked about this on the pod, but I did tell Steve this when I had to say no, was that, you know, COVID made it impossible for NBA teams. Sean Marks or Steve Nash to tell me how much access like to the actual team arena practice facility my family would have, right? So like if my boys, I have three of them, were able to be around and and experience what it is to watch Kevin Durant practice or Kyrie get his work in or or James. hard and like there was value in that. But because of the pandemic, like, we didn't even know if they could be at games. So the value wasn't there for me to pick the family up and move to Brooklyn,

you know, like monetarily it may have been, but like experience-wise, it wasn't. So all of those going to go into account. And I would have to weigh the pluses and minuses, Logan. That looked like. I'm just fucking, I was just fucking wish you, bro. Honestly, just for everybody wondering, I think we at least have another year with Rogers, is all I'm saying. Yeah, man.

Come on, bro. Come on, bro. My younger starts high school football today, dog, just got his cast off. Like, first week of varsity training camp. Stop, Roger. Stop, Rosal. We got to keep the suspense.

We got to keep people coming back. All right, my bad. My bad. You need to relax. You need to relax. Now, the biggest news of the free agency thus far, and I just want to put a disclaimer on this. We are recording this at 923 Pacific time.

I don't really care where Raj is. right now. Whatever, it's another time where Raj is at right now. It's in the East Coast time. The only time that matters, though, it's 1230 Easter. The only time is significant. Here we go. Here we go. Anyway, we're recording this on this right before a free agency starts. But we've already got like a big move and I've been waiting to talk to you about this, Rob. Russell Westbrook is a Los Angeles Laker. He's a Los Angeles Laker. He is a, yo, he's a Los Angeles Laker. And I can't, you're dancing right now. And like, that was the first. So we're going to get to this in a second, but I was watching this.

I saw the news when I was at Chase Center cover, and just, you know, just around, you know, just been around my old stomping grounds, just, you know, just chilling out. And they had, it was hell of cool. They had the monitor, the big monitor in Chase Center, you know, the monitor and the, where the score, what do you call that thing? Scoreboard? The scoreboard, yes, the big scoreboard. And they put it down and you basically watch the whole draft from the

scoreboard, which is pretty cool. But I saw it, and, like, I saw, I think Shams and Wodes reported it. And I'm like, I had the same reaction you did like, oh, shit. Russell Westbrook is going to the Lakers? Yeah. He went for Kyle Kizma, KCP, in a couple of picks. We don't, that doesn't matter. Russell Westbrook is a Los Angeles Laker.

My first reaction was, oh, shit. And then it was like, oh, shit. And then it was like, oh, shit. because first Russell Westbrook is coming home. It's going to the Lakers where he's always, you know, he's been a Laker fan. If you're in L.A., you're a Laker fan, and it is what it is. And then pairing him with LeBron James at this stage of his career, there's so many questions, there's so many intrigue.

I'm kind of happy about the move, but I'm just intrigued more than happy, I think. Is that more than what it is? It's not a slam dunk, and it doesn't have to be. I just am intrigued by how this is all going to work out. I don't know if they're going to, I think they might win a championship, but I don't know anything can self-combust. There's only four guys on the roster. Raja, what about?

Yeah, four guys on the roster pretends a problem. There's a problem. But you need five to play a game. I'm an unapologetic Russell Westbrook fan. I'm not apologizing anyone for that. I dig the style he plays. Now, are there some things analytically in this game that, that don't work?

on every team. Yeah, but I like the style he plays. I'm also a huge LeBron fan. You know that as well. I do know that. I think this is going to be a good look. I know, and I've heard every argument as to why it's not. People very close to me in my family.

We took a road trip this weekend. There were a lot of people telling me why this is not going to work. And I get it. I can understand why you would tell me they need three points shooting. They need this. They need that. I got it. He does a space the floor.

I got it. I got it. I got it. Salary cap. We get it. Salary cap. I get it. I get it.

I get it. here's what I thought the Lakers were missing come down the stretch last year. Playmakers, people who could create, people who, if LeBron is slowly slowing down, if that makes sense, right? Like if he's every year going to slow down just a little bit,

then that means someone on his team has to continue to grow into that role of being able to make plays for other people, Logan, right? Help that offense work. AD can do it to a certain degree, but AD has shown you he is going to be injury prone. as great as he is, he might miss some time. You don't know when that's going to happen.

It's what it is. Russell Westbrook, for all that he doesn't do shooting the ball, he does that in volumes. Like he led the NBA and assist last year at 11.7 a game. Like, he can set the table for people. Yeah, he needs the ball in his hands a lot. But he's another guy who can go out there and create a bucket for himself or someone else. And he's a dog. Yes.

He's a dog. So that type of energy in the building is really, really crucial. I like it. Do they need to, like, supplement around the edges with the right type of supporting cast? Absolutely 100%. Of course. But I like it. And you're not going to convince me to not like it.

Now, I'm not guaranteeing a championship, Logan, but I like it. Listen, man, I think that, because it was also reported that, you know, the Lakers were going after Buddy Heald. It remains to be seen if they're still going after him. But KOC, shout out KOC, our own KOC. said that there's still a chance that the Lakers could also get Buddy Heald. There's still a chance that they could. But my thing is this, though, if there's an either or, and I'm not saying, we don't even know if it's the right decision if you would go either Russ or Buddy Healed.

But the argument for Russ, in my opinion, and I'm curious your opinion on this is there's there's something to be said about being there before. And Russell Westbrook has been there before. whatever there is postseason been to the finals all that stuff he's been there and he is going and he has the combination of being there and also losing which just builds fuel in a way that i don't think buddy hill could ever imagine because he hasn't been there he just hasn't we don't like buddy healed is one of the best shooters statistically of all time right he is his if you look at his three point shooting it compares to that as step and clay thompson he is one of the best

However, he has not been to the postseason. And you know that there's a difference in postseason versus the regular season. And there's something to be said about Russell Westbrook being there. Do you believe that? And I think that's an argument towards Russ. And playing for a guy like LeBron, he needs guys that have been there before.

It doesn't matter what your ability is. You need to meet the moment. And Russ is a person that has been there and has more likely to meet the moment just off the strength that he's been there before. I have always, I always defer to experience. That's not taking anything. But Buddy Hild is a fantastic player.

Way better when I remember covering him coming out in the draft. I got to give him credit. Like, he's way better than I thought he was going to be as pro. If the Lakers can snap him up to, no-brainer. But I, no-brainer. Not even, yes, what are you talking about? But, yeah, I like guys who have been in those trenches in situations like that before, have accumulated a bunch of knowledge, have both succeeded and,

failed in the moments, right? And therefore, you know, are super hungry, not that Buddy Hill's not. So there is something to be said for that. I'm with that 100%. Um, you know, I,

I, like, Dwayne Wade wasn't a great fit with LeBron. Skill set wise. Skill set wise, right? But you're, you're not talking about a spot-up shooter like, like,

you know, Mike Miller later in his career. We're talking about Miami-Hivray, right? We're not talking about Cleveland Cavalier, Dway. Yeah, we're talking about, Prime D. Wade. We're talking about Prime D. Wade, right? Like one of the best two guards of all time.

But their skill sets weren't the most, quote, unquote, complimentary, right? Because they were similar players. But they were so good. And D. Wade was so good. And they figured it out. And you put a bunch of shooting around them. And you got a big, like Chris, Chris Bosch, who can stretch the floor, like, AD. You can get that done.

I think that the Lakers are going to figure that out and get that done. I see LeBron, and maybe I'm giving him, I don't mean to make this, yeah, I want to be careful because I'm not trying to diminish who he is as a player. This is meant as a compliment. I think LeBron knows who he is as he ages. And LeBron knows what's in his tank. Do you know what I mean? Could still be the best player on the planet when he wants to and needs to, but probably not in his best interest to have to do that every night. So how do you how do you reserve the how do you have in reserve like the ability to just pop up and be that guy at timely moments?

Well, you have two other guys that can carry. You know? And so this gives you another guy that can carry. So this has been the argument that's been going out is both LeBron and, excuse me, both LeBron and Russell Westbrook need the ball. and who is going to defer to who. And, you know, I think that it can coexist, but both have to make sacrifices. Both players have to make sacrifices.

And if that means, I think that that means Russell Westbrook probably has to be, maybe it's a better cutter, you know, just cut to the basket a bit more. And just not even sacrifice this game, just be more of a player. Logan. And I think that...

Can I ask you a question? I don't mean to cut you off. Go ahead. Are you good? Go ahead. Did Paul George sacrifice? Did Paul George sacrifice like his statistically to play with Russ?

Like at the end, the end result. Was it a sacrifice for him? No. Were Kevin Durant's numbers sacrifice playing with Russ? I don't think they were. What about James Hardings? Did they dramatically drop? I don't think they did.

Bradley Beals? No. What the fuck out of here? No. Bradley Beal was the best two guard in the game. I think it's ludicry. I mean, yes. All good NBA players need the.

ball. They do. And with a big three, it becomes harder than it was with those two, those pairs that I just talked about, admittedly. But like, I don't, I don't just buy into that. Anyway, I'm sorry, I hijacked it. Go ahead. No, you're good. I think that I'm just saying I think that it can coexist because I don't think, and I think Russ is just so polarizing, and we've talked about this before, I think it's just more, if he was just, I don't want to say nicer to the media, if he was just, I feel like the media would give him a lot more rope. If he was just, if he was just, if, I feel like the media would give him a lot more rope, if he was just if he didn't, if he gave a fuck a bit more about that.

You know what I mean? Fuck us, Russ. What's up? I'm put myself in there. Fuck us, Russ. Don't worry about us. Yeah, we ain't, yeah. Do what you do, Russ. You know, yeah, do what you do. And, um, but I, I think though, people don't realize how smart of a basketball player he is, man.

And I don't feel like that gets enough. I don't think to feel like that gets enough. And does he shoot too much sometimes? Yes. He, absolutely does. There were times where I thought in that Houston series in the bubble last year where, dude, pass the ball. I know you're open, but you're open for a reason. Please pass the ball. You should because you're actually losing your team this game. However, man, there's some things

you see with Russ that just you're like, oh my goodness, there's some passes that he makes, right? Just some decisions that he makes down the stretch. He was one of the clutches player, the Thunder or one of the clutches teams the year after the year after Kevin left because he won a lot of games down to stretch for him for them. And I think that he just has to, I think this time is going to be, and I know I'm going to get,

even people within the ringer are going to be like, what are you saying, Logan? I think that man, he's 33 years old, he's playing for his childhood team. I think that there's going to be some level of about base for Russ where, you know, he does figure it out. I do. I do think that.

And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the real ones are wrong. You know, maybe we're real wrong on this, but we'll see. But I just, I have faith. I just have faith. I don't know. I just have faith. I like where your mind's at.

You have faith too, though, Roger. I know you do. First of all, I know, I mean, I would, I don't even know what an about face, like, I don't think you meant it that way. I'm not accusing you of meaning it one way. But like, the narrative would be it. outface for us. And that, that in and of itself is bothersome to me. I don't even know what that means. Like, if you know, you know, what's that shit that all y'all like, I, Y, K, Y, Y, K, Y, whatever that is.

If, if that man is a savage, he's an absolute savage. Now, he, LeBron, I, I've watched LeBron teams for a long time. I was fortunate enough to work with LeBron in his camp in Cleveland. I've yet to see a player come in. and overstep his bounds over and over again with LeBron. You might do that with James Hardin. You might do that with Kevin Durant. LeBron is LeBron in that sense, right?

Like where you're not... In every shape of what you just said, in every way, yeah. You're going to figure it out, or you're not going to be there. You just said it like LeBron is Marlowe. My name is my name. Yeah, that's what it is. My name is my name. Yeah.

when people come in, especially stars of that ilk, you're coming in for reasons, right? We want to get this done. This is his hometown team. You just talked about that. Russ knows who he is as a player as well, how much he's got left in the tank. He knows he doesn't have a championship. Like, you are coming in there eyes wide open

and understanding. Like, there are some things that I've done on other teams that may or may not be my job here. And I have to be flexible enough to do that. Russ has done that. You know, he's done that. and he'll continue to do that. And they just got to get the recipe right around the edges, man. If you get the shooting recipe right around the edges with the other pieces

and you get another complimentary big, I'm not picking anybody else to come out of the West. You're not picking nobody else to come out to West after that? No, no, I said you've got to get some things. I got to see what you get around them, like in terms of shooting. That's another thing. So I can't say that right now. If they get Buddy healed, dude, if they get Buddy healed,

and they could parlay into some like shooters on minimum deals. I heard like, I didn't hear this, but, you know, maybe, I think, I think Waus brought it up on the group. Had to Otto Porter for, um, yeah, I heard a reason, a reason, and Iggy, like, names like that, you start, you know. Listen, man, I think, I think, I think I woulda doll is going back to the Warriors, bro. I think he's going back to the Warriors. That would be a good look, too. I remember, I remember, and we're going to get back to the Lakers, but I remember on his return. on his return when he was on the Miami heat going to the um he was he was playing it was

first time back at a chase center since leaving the warriors and you know it felt like a home game for Iguodala and I remember him saying when we were going like we were all talking and I remember him saying I'll be back and it was just one of those things of like yeah he was dabbing up some like stabbards I was like I'll be back right I just seems like just symmetry that he would come back to the Warriors, man. And, you know, maybe and he spurned the Lakers already before. I see him going back to the Warriors, and that's just a gut. And I remember

I just remember the vibe of being like, oh, he went to Miami to go get the bag. He was just savvy and went and got another, you know, 18, 19 meal. And I think he's going to go back to the war. But if the Lakers round out this roster with some dudes on it

and get buddy healed, I think they're, I think there, it's the crash course to Nets, Lake. I just have a feeling about that. I just do. We'll see. Now, there was a ESPN story that came out this morning. Ramona Shelburne put it out.

And it's interesting because Russ two years ago wanted to go back to L.A. And wanted to play for the Clippers. And called, and New Kauai was going to the Clippers. Or New Kauai was going to L.A. And called was like, yo, man, I'm trying to go. to LA too. And then basically got curved by

Kauai and was like, and then Kauai was like, no, I actually want Paul George. So, you know, that's your teammate. You should go get, yeah. If I'm Russ, and I see that, I'm like, yo, man, first of all, I'm, you know what, fine, take it. Go ahead. The bum-ass clippers. That's probably what he was

like, you know, I was a Laker fan growing up. All right, for sure. All right, bet. And now, two years later, for sure. Y'all haven't won anything. It's cool. Don't trip. I'm going to go with LeBron and go win this title. I could see him thinking that. Like, you know what? All right, you didn't want to have me on your team? You didn't want to have me on the clippers. It's cool. You just be like, he could probably just have all the disses for the clippers. It'd be like, all right, bro, I'm about to kick the shit out of y'all. And, and Coah, you're not even playing. Okay, don't even trip.

We're going to go win this title in our building that you share with us. That's probably what he's thinking. What do you think, Roger? Because I would feel slighted, bro, if somebody had me messed up, like, okay, not only am I'm not going to take you. I'm going to take the team, the teammate you had off your hands, don't even trip. There are levels to that. And then there are levels to that, right? They're levels to that. Because, yeah, that's kind of, that, that, that's a little, it's a little slimy with, with Kauai.

But I would also make the argument that Paul George is a better fit with Kauai. Because Kauai also needs a ball. Like you say LeBron needs the ball. LeBron doesn't need it like in an ISO all the time situation. He's a facilitator. Kauai ain't facilitates shit. Kauai just needs it to score. So in that space, he needs Paul George more than he.

needs Russ, right? So I think it was high, a better call. But it was a little lowdown for Russ to be calling behind Paul George's back too. Like, you're just going to leave me in Oklahoma City? Like, you just go, like, I can't, okay, you just go dip on me in OKC and not say shit to nobody? This game is sick. This is a nasty game, bro. But I know one thing about Russ.

I don't want to think about Russ. He is like all of the grades I've ever seen in that if there's a reason, even if it's perceived Or even if it's not even a reason. Oh, they'll make it up. Yeah, but in this case, like, you could, you could convince yourself, like, oh, there's, yes, there's going to be that in the back of his mind. He will be holding a grudge.

He's going to be like, yo, you spurn me. You said I couldn't, I couldn't play for the Clippers. It's cool. I wasn't even a Clipper fan. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yes, he will be holding a grudge and he will be. Oh, yeah. Clippers Lakers is must see TV just for Russ in general.

I just want to see Russ go for 45 against the Clippers. And also, Kauai just hasn't made a lot of great decisions, man. We want to keep it a buck, bro. He could have went and had this, he wanted to build his own super team, right? Which is fine, right? He wanted to go to the Clippers and have all the control.

But if he goes to the Lakers, man, that's a title. You, you, LeBron and Kauai, go in a title and be immortalized and be the dudes on the, you'll be forever a Laker, right? and it just doesn't go your way, man. Your first year, you guys just fumbled the whole bag. There's chemistry issues. You're not speaking.

You're, you know, it's just, and then the second year, it's just like this weird, it's like you're injured again, but then you don't tell anyone. And then it's like, I might come back when you had a torn ACL the whole time and you're over here saying day to day, I might play. Like, what are we doing right now? And then you're not playing the third year. And then you're trying to negotiate a long, term deal with the potentially a longer he just declined his option but i would say like if you're

injured you go get that long term deal yeah that just is what it is right now we'll get to a free agency in a second but then it just doesn't seem like he's made nothing is going right for kawai for a guy that's just like seems so calculated in the most powerful man two years ago it just doesn't seem like that now hasn't worked out great for kawai since since uh getting getting to la i mean i don't know if it's like the spurning of lebron curse you don't see that too often I don't know if Masayu Jury Is there a spurning of your Is it a spurning of your is it a

Is it a Bronn curse or is it a or is it Toronto curse? I don't know. I don't know. But it hasn't worked out. Hasn't worked out great for Kauai. And I mean, he's still funny. He's still a phenomenal player.

They'll figure that out. Phenomenal. They still. They'll figure that out. But it just hasn't materializing to a championship. And when you start, when you do what you, when you do what you did, that's chance. I mean, it's championship, right? Like you got, you got Paul George.

You said you wanted this on your own. just came off of the championship. I mean, it's championship robust, and you guys are owed for, what, three at this point? Yeah. I've always said this. And the Lakers got a chip, though,

and the Lakers got a chip. And the Lakers got a chip in that window. Yeah, absolutely. I've said this about Kauai. I've said it on, I've said it before. I just think, whether Kauai knows it or not,

he'd be better on a team with a guy like LeBron. He's better on a team where someone is driving culture. Like, Kyle Lowry, I don't, wasn't the best player on the Raptors, it was Kauai, right? But Kyle Lowry was their,

like their culture driver. You know what I mean? Like he was Mr. Raptor. He was the guy that had his feet firmly planted in Toronto soil and drove the culture of the building and he had support. Like the Kauai can't be that dude for you. I don't think you can be that dude if you're quiet.

Well, that's the thing. That requires a lot of communication. It does. And you can, I don't think you can have. that much power without having some level of communication with everyone. And I, and listen, we don't know because ever since, and you can ask anybody, ever since he went to the clippers, the clippers have changed as an organization, just from the outside looking in, from, they're just so much more stealth now. But there's also these things of like, well, after he

gets hurt, he just disappears, you know? You can't have that. And we saw that with the San Antonio Spurs and we're seeing that now with the different in the clippers but the difference was there was an established foundation in san antonia right there isn't an established foundation in l.A. with the clippers right now and you just it's just it's just interesting it's just interesting and i just don't i don't really have an answer for it but i don't i do agree with you that he probably would have been better served with the lakers just because you don't want to talk that's fine We got LeBron and AD right there to answer for stuff who liked to talk. Yeah.

So that's it. You could have been the third banana. You could have been that, but you wanted control. You wanted control. Yeah. And with great power comes great responsibility. And it just didn't work out right there. You're in your bag now, bro.

There you go. You know, we locked in, dog. You know what I mean? I'm ready to roll. I'm ready to go. But it's just, it's just interesting. when you seek the Kauai thing right now and then how it shapes up with a Russ.

I just can't wait to see Russ get a dunk. And the Clippers version of Staples Center dunk on like three dudes and then look up at the sky box like, yeah. Yeah. Yes. So yeah, man, Russell to the Lakers. I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm intrigued.

Let's take a quick break. And I want to talk about some stuff, some Bay Area stuff. I know you guys don't. I know we talk about that often, but I'm going to go home real quick. Up next. And we are back. Raja,

I kind of previewed this earlier, but I went to Chase Center for the draft. I took a trip to Chase Center. It was kind of weird. It was my first time on the floor and in the media room since the shutdown. And it was cool, man. You know, got a little rapid test popping.

Had her mask on, popping. And then I watched the draft and saw, you know, I'm obviously intrigued by the Warriors just because they're the team closest to where I'm at. But also because they are, I think the team with the most question marks, honestly, in the league. You don't really, you could say that they're a contender or that they're not going to even reach

or barely make the first round. And you might be right. You know, either way you might be right. in a few months. But the Warriors picked two guys in the draft. Kaminga, and they picked

Moses Moody, who are, you know, I like Kaminga. I think he's really, really raw. But I do like his potential. I saw him with the Ignite and some clips. He looks, and he's only 18, he looks like a dude. He looks like an NBA player at 18 years old. and Moody, a good shooter who they can get, you know, they need shooting.

But it was interesting because the Warriors also have guys by the name of, I don't know if you've heard of the Mirage, Jermon Green, Clay Thompson, and Steph Curry, who are pretty good, pretty good players. And they want a title because they are aging. They need, they want another title. They are striving for another title. And the Warriors, you know, there was, they, the Warriors are, you know, They're putting pressure on the Warriors to make a deal. We want to fucking win the title.

We want to, we need dudes, right? There was a report from Marcus Thompson, a friend of the show, who basically just wrote like every, all the players are pushing to get a Bradley bill deal done. A Bradley deal done. Bradley deal. And, um, and, uh, there was, you know, there was no deal to be had. Instead, they picked two draft picks. And, um, yeah, it looks right now at, at least at this very. moment that they're going to go in with two more draft picks and figure out in free agency,

at least as of right now, as of what, as I'm talking to you right now at this very moment, right on the eve of Summer League. Right. Is that the correct course of action, Rajah? Do you think that they should take a deal? I'm going to give you context because I have some little tidbits and some goss, but before I get to that, I want to get your opinion on that. What do you think?

Here's my opinion. And I don't know if it's going to answer your question, right? If they're able to somehow swing a deal that gets them. another established real contributing player, let's talk. If they don't, and they're rolling out with Jonathan Kaminga. That's his name, right?

Sorry. You like Jonathan Kaminga? I do, but admittedly, I don't watch, you know, I'm not in the college game like that. So I'm not,

I don't have to break down his game. I know he's really athletic. He's kind of raw, right? You were just listening to Perk on ESPN on the draft. Yeah. And that's basically what you were doing. Yeah. And also,

Moodie is a good story. He's a different bag. He's a good thing. Moody. Shotmaker. But you're not in a championship contention this year. I'm saying that like 100%. So if that's what you're rolling out, you're not in championship contention this year,

which is another year in the window of Steph, Draymond, and Clay, where you're not going to have a chance to win a championship. So, you know, do with that what you will. I don't know what deals they had and what that would have done to them and how that changed their flexibility moving into the next chapter of the, I don't know all of that. I'm just saying you go out there with the young talent with upside, and you're not in the conversation for a chip this year.

If you pull it, you pull something off and you get something that's really complimentary and it's been through some battles, let's re-evaluate. Now, I have some context. So obviously, as Marcus reported, that at least the players want Bradley would love a Bradley bill trade, right? From everything I gathered, like,

where does dig kick the tires. Bradley Bill doesn't want to leave Washington. And that's been reported too, but he just doesn't want to leave Washington for whatever reason. And I don't get that. I know Russell has been traded away. There's nothing from that front office

that tells me, hey, I want to, they're going to build a contender here. I know there's nothing, at least history suggests, there's nothing there, right? I know they've reshuffled in the front office. But there's nothing to tell me that,

hey, we're going to win a title right now. We're going to build a champion for you. I think that, I do agree that Bradley Bill wants to win a title, but I think he wants to win a title being the man in Washington. That's all that tells me, right? Because, you know, the warriors were intrigued by him, obviously, wanted to make a deal, but there's no, there wasn't any,

he doesn't want to leave. He's basically like Wolf of Wall Street. I'm not leaving. I'm not fucking leaving. As of right now, he says, I'm not fucking leaving. That's a great scene, by the way. It's an amazing scene. It's an amazing scene.

Amazing. Yeah, that's what that says to me too, Logan. And you know what? If I'm going to keep it a buck, I've mixed emotions on it. Because part of me is like, I hear you Bradley Bill. You don't, you don't, you know, I always applaud dudes for saying, no, my feet are planted. And I'm doing it for the city, you know? Like, I want to be here.

You're not, you know, like there is something to be said for that. I've also said on the flip side of that, in this particular instance, you got to get up out of there, bro. They just don't, I mean. I don't even think it got to the point of like, yo, let's make a deal. It was literally Brad doesn't want to leave. There's really no use in having this conversation. Yeah. So that, I mean, I guess I don't understand it.

I kind of respect it. Like, it leaves me feeling really weird. There's nothing that's happened in that front office in the last, I don't know how many years that gives me any faith that they're going to get it right around you. So like, I don't know how to feel about that. But that's, I would have like Brad and deal to get up. We'll see what happens in free agency, right? We'll see what happens in free agency. You got Kuzma and KCP.

Fine players not going to win you a title. No, it's not. It's not going to happen. And I never got this either, though. Like, D.C. is such a great place. I don't know why it doesn't attract, like, Star Free. It's a, I love D.C. It could attract me.

D.C. could attract me as a place. I love D.C. Brad, Brad, Bill, hop on the phone. It said, we can get Logan a little 10-day, bro. I can't breathe you over the top, bro, but I'll take that salary and get you a charge or something. You know what I mean? Roger's going to train me to give you, like,

two minutes a game, you know? You got me. But, and then there's another one. There's another thing that, you know, um, and by and long, there's, there's also the subject of Ben Simmons and,

uh, Golden State. And Keith Pompeii of, uh, the Philly Enquirer, the OG, um, put out a, put out a, uh, a piece basically saying that the, the, uh, Sixers just want the farm for, They want the farm for Ben Simmons. They want everything they can get.

Darryl Murray's like, I'll take you, as Richard Pryor said, you got dreams, we'll take them too. He wanted everything for Ben Simmons, right? And it basically was confirmed on the Warriors side, everything that Keith was reporting and was like, yo, bro, like, we're not going to, you know, there's only one player that the Warriors will, will trade the farm for.

And he just won a finals MVP and just won his first title. And he also signed an extension. He's not going anywhere. And that is Yad and Sondeta-Cumbo. The Warriors still are infatuated by him and also know that they could not get him. There is no way they can get him. But that is the only person that in the whole league that they are trading, that they are going to even think about trading the farm for.

And that is a generational talent and makes sense, right? But they're not going to do that for Ben Simmons. So that is the context. So, and how does that, if you're a, if you're on the Warriors, Roger, because those are all valid points. You think about it. You tick the tires on Bradley Bill. He's like, nah, I'm not trying to go anywhere.

And then, you know, let's see what Ben Simmons is taught. Let's see what the singer's talking about with Ben Simmons. They want the farm. It's like, nah, bro, we only do that for one player in the whole league. Knowing that now, Roger, if you're a player within the organization and you hear this context in these politics, how do you feel about, where the warriors are going and what would how would you what do you feel about their decision making do you say they oh fuck it just take a deal because we have we only have step for a finite

amount of time no i no i don't think so um you know if i'm a player i understand there's nothing an organization can do if bradley bill does not want to come there like we can't we can't we can't do that that's beyond the the control of the club not wanting to trade the farm um for a generational you know for a non-generational talent i think players can understand that. I think players can say, hey, man, we can't give up, you know, we'd love to have him, but we can't just give up every asset in the cupboard, like, and think that he's going to be enough to get us over that hump. Because I don't know that Ben Simmons is enough to get him over the hump. I don't, I don't think Clay and Steph, Draymond, think he's enough to get him

over the hump. So I think that they would understand that from the organization's, you know, position and say, hey, that's probably not the one that was meant to be. Now, there is a clicking, like a click of top a ticking clock or there's a ticking clock on that right like we got to get something done Logan these you know these aren't spring chickens you know Steph

what you know Steph Clay's coming off multiple injuries like I don't know what when contracts are up but we've they've got to figure out a way in my estimation this year to pull off some kind of deal that gives them real hope because as much as I talked about

comminga and the other kid they drafted not being ready this year. They won't be ready next year either. And like Wiseman, we'll see what happens with Wiseman. Well, Wiseman is just like, he could be great. It could be a Hall of Fame or who knows, man. We don't know. We really don't know. But he has to be like David Robinson in a couple of months. But it's not going to be that. That's not the way that typically works. You know what I mean? Again, David Robinson, you're talking about generational talents. Like, Wiseman couldn't be. And that would be fine. On a normal thing, that's fine, James. Wiseman at a

takes you a few years to figure it out, but it's just not feasible. I have a question for you. I have a question for you. Would you take, if it made sense, would you trade for Carl Anthony Towns? If you could. Yes. If you're the Warriors. Yes.

I would do it too. I think that he's not, I don't think he's generational. However, I think he can really make them a contender, though. Yeah. If you could make that deal work, yeah, you could do it. He's enough of a player, bro. Like, we don't have to be generational. You know, generational is great.

But you're in that. You're in that star level of like, everybody in the league is like, yo, my man, he gets it done. Like, you bring in something like that. That, that, now we're cooking. Would you trade Wiseman for him? How old is Carl Anthony Towns? I think I would.

Yeah, I mean, that's a tough one. But how old is Carl Anthony Towns is what I'm at? I think 24 or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're 24 years old. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's young, bro. He got a long career ahead of him.

And also, I think that he's, I don't know, man. I would do it. I would do it. Just like, you pair, he's 25. Yeah. Going to turn 26 in November. You put him in, and I think that would be a good. Honestly, I'm not, I just want to say I'm not reporting anything.

I'm just throwing shit out there. Just relax, guys. But I would, I would trade for him. Why not? Then you can give a fresh start to Weisen with less expectations and have him play with Anthony Edwards up in Minnesota, a fresh start for both sides. Why not? Trying to sell that.

I would do that. Try to sell that. I think I probably do it too. This is why LeBron and I caught a lot of. of shit when he was taking those one year, those two year deals with the player option on the second year. It's the situation that I imagine Steph finds himself in now. Steph's probably too good of a dude to ever say it. Steph hasn't signed an extension. He has not signed an extension yet. I just want to say that I would put that out there. Yeah, you've got to have some leverage because

what you're dealing with in Golden State, the conversation we're having right now, Logan, is is it more important to the organization to protect their long-term future or to try to win championships in the window that Steph Clay and Dre monitoring. And I don't- Championships in the window that Steph and Dre are in because I was, I remember I was today, or the other day, I was talking to OG in the Bay, OG Sports Rider.

Monty Pool, who I used to work with at NBC Sports Bay Area. And he's been around a long time been doing this for about 30 years. He is, I told him I just brought, I was like, man, it was a fun time during that run. And it was like, and we both came to the conclusion, man, This shit doesn't. And he responded, he said, this doesn't happen.

The five-year run like Golden State just does not happen. You need to milk that for all its worth. It doesn't matter if Cominga or anybody is a franchise star. You have Steph Curry. They don't fall on trees, bro. You have Steph Curry, you have Draymond, and whatever you have left of clay, you figure that out. Because this is your franchise for years to come.

This is how you sell things. This is what it is. you figure that out with them. That's why the Lakers don't have problems with trading away. Fuck a draft pick down the line. Who cares? You have LeBron James for at least maybe, let's just go a year by year basis. You only have LeBron James for a finite amount of time.

Figure it out. I think part of me just wishes the warriors would just do that. Stop trying to build for a future you don't know exists. Go all in. I agree with you 100%. I hadn't taken the job in Cleveland yet when I started going up to consult. It was before they traded for LeBron, right? So they had

just kind of gotten the draft pick, the first pick in the draft. And I went up to see what Mike Brown looked like as a coach and Griffith's trying to make a decision on that. I was in the interviews with Andrew Wiggins and some of those guys and the David Blatt hiring and said then boom,

they have a chance to trade for Kevin Love. I'm not hired yet, but I'm on the phone. And I'm like, what the, this is a no fucking brain. Like, you're going to give up Andrew Wiggins. We're going to trade Wiggins for Kevin. You're like, yes.

Absolutely. Don't even get out of your mouth. 100%. Like, it's done because that's what it's about. You know? Like, we're trying to get it done now. Yeah. Yeah. And it was funny because, like, I was young. I didn't know shit when that trade happened. And I was like, why don't you just keep Wiggins?

Why don't you keep, we'll just keep Wiggins. He's right there. But, like, being around the league now, and I wasn't around the league as much then. But being around the league now, bro, like, I get it. I would have made that trade a hundred times out of a hundred because you need a Kevin Love, an experienced dude to be in there one, because he was like one of the oldest dudes in the room. Other than that, you had him, James Jones, and then, like, you had kids.

You had a young Kyrie. You had a young Dionne Waiters. They have to figure, fuck basketball. They have to, as you know, they had to figure life out. And it's hard to figure life out. That's hard enough. And to figure out life while you're trying to figure out basketball is another thing. And I say that to say, you have to.

you have to put older dudes and veteran dudes to combat those life experience and be like, yo, this is how you do this is what you do. There's a whole human element to this. So I would have, with that being said, you need a Kevin Love who has gone through that shit before and just plays ball. Bro, think about, yes, absolutely.

Think about being an 18-year-old, man. Most 18-year-olds are just hitting a college campus. I was 18 once. You were 18 once. And, man, I couldn't get to class. I was just... I never went to class. You know, right, I'm saying.

And it's just in the streets too late, can't get to your practice. Screwing up. First time you're literally out in life. Correct. First time you're literally out. And you're going to ask that person to hold down a huge responsibility on the road and the quest to win an NBA championship in a league full of grown men, professional basketball players.

And, yes. And here's a lot of a ticket. Good luck with that. Hey, hey, and be the breadwinner for your family. Come on, man. There's a reason. I agree with you 100%. I agree.

You need a, there are young players that come in, especially Logan, if they go to really good, stable franchises with good vets in the building, that can get their shit together really quickly and be of value to teams like that. It's not that it can't happen. It's just a lot. it's a lot harder to get those young players,

both on the court and off the court, caught up to speed to a degree that can really produce championships in the first year and second year. That being said, Warriors, I think you should ship off Wiseman and go get Carl as any towns. But there's not a trade on the thing. Just with that context, I'm like, it's a no-brainer, man.

Go try to get somebody else. Go try to make a trade. It don't got to be a big splash. It doesn't have to be Bradley Bill. It doesn't have to be these people, right? It just has to be somebody that's serviceable. enough because you have your top level talent, just have service a little bit enough

to figure it out, man. So let's go, before we get out of here, let's get some other free agency news, man. Kyle Lowry, close to the frontrunners to get Kyle Lowry is the Miami Heat. Your Miami Heat, Roger Bell, how do you feel about that? It's not Miami Heat, first of foremost. I love it. What? What? It's not my Miami Heat. I've never

professed to be a Miami Heat fan. Like, I'm not, come on, man, I live in the market. That's not your hometown. That's not your hometown. You're from, you know, shout up to the Virgin Islands. You know I got love. But you're also from Miami, man. 3.05. I am from 305, but I grew up a Bulls fan, man.

Like, I didn't, we didn't, like, so, I mean, I don't have any beef with the heat, but that's not my team. All right, that's fine. I like a Laker fan from the Bay, I get you. Yeah, you can dig it. I like Kyle Lowry to the heat. I think Kyle Lowry is one of those dudes, man. You drop him in any mix of people, and he's going to make you better. The things that he does, the person who he is, he makes you better.

I just want the heat to just be more than a really tough solid team, bro. And I think that this is, that's just another move that's going to keep them just a really, really hardworking, not a contender, but a really solid team that'll give a contender's a scare. Am I wrong for feeling that? No, you know what the heat? You know what? I mean, listen, man, their degrees to all of this shit, right? You know what the heat need to go with the solid-ass, like really, really, really, really good bam out of bio and really, really, really, really good Jimmy Butler and really, really, really good. Lowry.

Bradley Bill. Yeah, they need a fucking superstar. Ain't Bradley Bill. That's the way this shit works. I mean, there's no secret to this shit. Like, you need a superstar, dude, a guy who every single night can do what you need him to do. That's what you need.

And what I mean by that is by getting buckets. Like, they've got what Bam Out of Bio does covered. Jimmy Buckets covers a lot of bases. You need that dude who can get you 30. He just gets 30. That's what I do. I'm a culture leader. I defend.

I get 30. Like, I'm a superstar. Yeah. I don't know, man. Okay, if I had to guess, I'm just going to do this because we're just going through free agency right now.

It was before it happens. If you had to guess, man. Is Chris Paul staying in Phoenix? I think he should. I just think he, like, why not, man? Just go stay in Phoenix, bro. I want him to stay in Phoenix. You laughed at me when I posed this question

two episodes ago. I posed it. I posed it. You laughed at me, right? You tried to make me feel bad for that. Like you were, you were all in your little, like little fucking kikis about it.

I said, I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know. Like, I just, it's complicated because... He's going back.

I think he's going back, but I just want to give context why it's complicated. It's complicated because he's old. Damn. I said that. That's fine. That's fine. That's great.

He's great. But he's always. and he's a great player right now, but he want that long-term bag, bro. If he could get like a five-year deal, which I don't think he's going to get. I might want to get that three-year deal, pop and player.

If he can get that, you don't know how good he's going to be for how long, and you're going to have to manage him so much to get him in optimal performance, and you're paying $40 million to get him for 12 points a game during a regular season, which is fine, but you're betting on the fact that he will be fine for the postseason

and history suggests even when he was, young and spry that he couldn't even do that. So it's a conundrum, but the Phoenix Suns are a great contending team when he's on the roster. That's just what it is. Robert Sarver can't show his face back in Phoenix unless he pays Chris Ball.

See, that's why I like you because you over here, you're, that's what it is. You got your first, hey, you got your first class ticket just now to Phoenix whenever. It's good. You know what I mean?

You got, not to say you'd never had it, but like, you know, you know, you know how they was playing you in the beginning. You know, I remember. Yeah, I remember. They got your first class ticket just now back to Sky Harbor. He can't.

He's got to get that done. He's got to get it done. And I think Chris Paul will stay there. Although I do think there are more conversations being held in the Paul household about moving than Phoenix Suns fans would like to admit. But I think he stays and Robert Sarver better get that shit done. I think Mike Conley's an interesting case, though, because I don't think it's as tight for him. I don't think that, I don't know.

Maybe. We'll see. We'll see. Well, you don't think it's foregone. conclusion that he's in Utah? No, it's not as, I don't think it's a four, as foregone as you think that Chris, or we both think, I think, Chris Paul is going to stay in Phoenix. This thing is complicated.

Right. But I just think that Chris Paul had a bigger impact on that Phoenix team than Mike Conley had on the Utah team. Okay. I just, I just believe that. And, yeah, we'll see what happens. I think Chris Paul is staying, but it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting.

Um, yeah, man, let's, uh, let's get to a real one of the week, uh, real one of the week for me, uh, man, I'm gonna go with Simone Biles, man. Let's go with Simone Biles, who is, like, this has just been a trend. And I think, like, she left the Olympics on during, during thing where she just, that didn't leave the Olympics, left a few, uh, events at the Olympics. And is, just to deal with her, you know, mental health. just because their mental health wasn't, you know, great. And I think that we're starting to see her and Naomi Osaka and not necessarily, and I'm going to preface with saying, I don't necessarily agree with all of this because I still am of the mind of like, yo, man, like, that's what sports is, right? That you need to figure that out on that way, right? However, I do feel like there is a conversation, there is a conversation to be had about mental health in sports and they are leading that conversation.

So, for one of the week is Simone Biles for me. All right. Let's see. My real one of the week is going to be the U.S. men's national soccer team. For winning,

I believe it's the Kongka-Kath is the way you say a goal cup against Mexico. Okay. Or heated rivals. I mean, those games are the closest thing. You're a soccer guy. You're a soccer guy.

They're good games, man. Who's your team in soccer? No, I don't have a... I'm not a fan like that. I just... I like to watch soccer games. My wife is a soccer player, so I've always enjoyed good soccer.

But, um, there's a good game. I wanted an extra time. And a young, and I forget his name, came through with the header, um, off the free kick and,

and put it in the back of the net for the U.S. men's team who, on paper, like they were young. They should have, like, Mexico had the, they had the experience.

They had all the stuff that we just talk about being the reasons why you win. This isn't your land of Donovan, U.S. No, these are young ins out there, man. And it was a pretty cool thing. They got a dope-ass goaltender.

I forget his name too. Like Matt something or other. He was like probably a goaltender of the tournament. They were real ones though. Like that was a hell of a game. Real quick prediction is the U.S. men's basketball team. The U.S. men's basketball team, are they going to win the gold? Yes.

Yeah? Yeah, I got a win in the gold. They win the gold? Okay. Well, quick. The argument that, like, do you, I think I like it. more when they got to work for it, bro. Like, I don't, I remember, it's funner this way.

Like, I do like the fact that, you know, the Americans or the underdogs now, not even necessarily the underdogs, but they're not as good as these other teams. And I do like that, man. And also, I'm getting in, like, the Olympic propaganda. I'm not going to lie, man. Like, I love what Slovenia is doing. They're just, like, the win that they had over Spain a couple days ago. And then I love, like, Spain is the last, it's just the last frontier.

Palgasaw's 41. And is out here, like, just playing and getting like eight quick points here and there in the fourth quarter, right? He's fucking battling. You could tell he's old. He's another dude that's old, but he's fucking battling. And you know, the Spaniards are very proud. It's a proud team over there. It's a proud program over there.

And they're, and they're playing. I just, I'm locked into the Olympic storylines right now. They're about to get their ass bust. They're about to get their ass bust. Spain? Spain. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably embarrassed. And, you know, shout to the women's national team. They're probably going to win gold. I predict they're going to win gold. They kick ass.

They're like how, remember back when the, they're just, they just run through shit. They just, they're just running. They're just going to go and just kick ass. They're going to win the gold. Men's national team is going to be a harder goal to win. But I'm locked into the Olympics, bro. Yeah, Olympics are, Olympics have been cool. I will say this about the women's national team because they are super dope.

but I was watching some of the, you know, the women's games. The other countries have made strides similar to other countries have made in men's basketball. Like some of these women's teams in other countries can really, really hoop. Do you watch any of the three-on-three basketball? Yo, I watched the women's, the one with Kelsey Plum. I haven't seen the men just yet. She's a monster. I'm locked in, though.

She's a monster. Kelsey Plum? Yeah, bro. How is she not on the, how is she not on the regular team? Well, she just, she tore her Achilles. This is like kind of like her getting back into the flow. But, yo, I am. I am locked.

I was locked into that big mama step out here, ball and they had like a, they had a look. She was fucking, she was giving shoulders and shit. I was like, yeah, because she could,

I was, I was thinking, I was like, because I haven't watched this guy that much, but apparently she's like really physical and she can't do that in a W like that, but in international play, it's way more physical.

And she's over here, look at the fuck about the way and just getting like, this body a motherfuckeruckus. And I'm like, yes, yes. Yeah,

yeah, no three on three is fun because it's like, it's a lot more physical. and I got to watch the men's one too when I get a chance. But it's, I like the three-on-three. It's physical. It's fast. Them cats, like, some of the teams in their three-on-three men and women,

they shoot the skin off of that ball. Like, they don't miss. Yeah. Real talk. Also, I got to imagine it's tiring to play the three-on-three because you got to like, because there's no breaks, bro. No check. You get the rebound.

You have to, yeah. Yeah. They're, they're, it's, I like the three-on-three. It's a great addition to the Olympics, man. It's a great addition to the Olympics. also want to tell you guys before we get out of here we are going to do a big mail bag um next week it is our i don't know how to say it it's our season finale show um before we go on a little brief hiatus um and we want to hear voicemails man we want to hear you guys we want to

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