The Sabrina Zohar Show - 193: Can You Get Someone To Be Emotionally Available?

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

You've done the therapy, read the books, and know your attachment style... so why does nothing change? In part 2 of the Hard Truth Series, Sabrina breaks down why you cannot heal your way out of incom...patibility. Drawing on real research, she unpacks how to tell the difference between a wrong match and relationship anxiety, why therapy language can become a cage that keeps you stuck, and the line between actual growth and emotional gymnastics. If you've stayed way past the expiration date convinced the work would eventually pay off, this episode is for you. Sabrina covers the fear-of-being-single trap, why your anxiety isn't always an attachment wound, and introduces the Responsibility Audit. Some relationships don't fail because you're broken, they fail because two people want fundamentally different things. If you’re ready to slow down, trust your instincts, and break your old dating patterns, the Healthy Relationship Foundations Course walks you through it step-by-step  HERE! If you’re serious about changing your dating patterns instead of repeating them, the Art of Going Slow course helps you unlearn urgency, regulate your nervous system, and build real connection without rushing, chasing, or abandoning yourself HERE! Get Ad free HERE!Want to work with Sabrina? HERE!Get merch for The Sabrina Zohar Show HERE!Don't forget to follow Sabrina and The Sabrina Zohar Show on Instagram and Sabrina on TikTok! Video now available on YOUTUBE! Please support our sponsors! Treat yourself to gear that looks good, feels good, and doesn’t break the bank with Fabletics. Go to Fabletics.com/SABRINA and sign up as a VIP and get eighty percent off everything! Go to IM8HEALTH.com/SABRINA and use code SABRINA for a Free Welcome Kit, five free travel sachets plus ten percent off your order Get 15% off OneSkin with the code SABRINA at https://www.oneskin.co/SABRINA #oneskinpod ============================= Chapters 00:00 Hard Truth Series Part 2 Intro 03:14 The Self-Improvement Trap 05:33 Anxiety or a Bad Match? 08:03 When Self-Work Becomes Self-Blame 11:40 Compatibility Is Not a Wound 17:16 What Doing the Work Can't Fix 24:32 When Therapy Speak Keeps You Stuck 26:42 Growth vs. Emotional Gymnastics 31:11 The Knowing vs. Leaving Gap 34:10 The Responsibility Audit Tool Disclaimer: The Sabrina Zohar Show, formerly known as Do The Work, is not affiliated with A.Z & associates LLC in any capacity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You've read the books. You've gone to therapy. You've worked on your attachment style. You're regulating your nervous system. You've become so fluent in the therapy speak. And you can identify every single pattern. And yet you're still on relationships that don't work for you. And I think this is something that most people in the wellness world aren't saying that sometimes the problem isn't your attachment. Sometimes the problem is the person that you're with. And no amount of work will fix an outer mismatch. Hello, hello. Hello. And welcome to another episode of the Sabrina Zohar Show. My name is Sabrina Zohar. And I am your home. Hi friends, welcome back. It's episode two of the hard truth series. You guys know, I love a series. I'm kind of a slut for them. It's fun because we build and we get to like expand each one. And don't worry, you guys asked for it. We're going to do the nervous system one a little bit later in spring. And so I'm excited. But last week we talked about being addicted to potential, right? You were dating the fantasy instead of really being in the reality. So today we're going to go further. What happens when you try to therapy your way through incompatibility? Spoiler alert, it doesn't, it doesn't actually work. And I need you to stop blaming yourself for something that was never really yours to fix. And guys, before we start, I asked you guys what you wanted to hear about this topic. And the question box exploded. Don't forget to follow on the Simranes-O-Hohar show on Instagram if you want to add in so that I can answer some of your questions. So I'm weaving those throughout.
Starting point is 00:01:16 And don't forget, as always, at the end, we have the tool of the week. All right, babes. Without further ado, let's get right on into it, shall we? Hi, friends. We're back for another week. And, guys, as always, I'm trying to keep the intros as short as possible. but the reminders is we have a lot of new people. So if some of the stories feel repetitive, I know, I get it.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I can't come up with new things that I haven't experienced, but I'm doing my goddamn best. And I always just like to share and give a disclosure. I have ADHD. I speak fast and I curse a lot. If that doesn't work for you, that is okay. Then this just isn't your community. But I'm so fucking tired of having to change who I am
Starting point is 00:01:47 in order to make other people feel comfortable that don't even follow or know who we are, but yet want me to change who I am. And part of being here is that you can show up as you so that I also can show up as me. and I don't take offense to it. But all I ask, that means the fucking world is share this with a friend. Share the episode, share the podcast, share anything with somebody that could actually benefit from this
Starting point is 00:02:06 because that's the quickest way we can grow. Don't forget to rate and review the show. Leave a comment. We do read all of them. It doesn't mean that all of them are welcomed here and that some people won't get blocked if you're fucking rude. But we do want to be part of the community. And I love when you guys engage with each other and talk. And we just have so much more to go.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We're getting close to the book time and it just feels surreal. And so I just wanted to say thank you and express my gratitude for all of you guys and let you know if you need anything. You can join a course, work one-on-one, ask a question. Everything's at the link in bio. As the book comes closer, I don't know how much more I'll be working with folks while this all process is happening. But we're in this together. Oh, I didn't even show you guys. If you're watching, I got my new tattoo.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I got a bean for Kobe. It's still being healed. And my mom tattoo for my mama because you guys know I talk about her all the time. So I wanted to show you that. Okay. Let's get into the episode so that we don't dick around and do it. daily too much in Dally. But I wanted to talk about this episode and have this episode because I think it's really important for us to expand the conversation. I get it. A lot of you guys don't tune in
Starting point is 00:03:07 because the episode title isn't what you want it to be, but I assure you that all of the episodes really do build on and they start to have a cohesion and like how do we start to improve repetition? So I know again, you might be saying, God, I've heard her say this again, but maybe it's saying it in a specific way that unlocks something. So if you don't want to listen, just mark it as finished. Welcome to rigging the system. Okay, let's talk about the self-improvement trap, because I know I was guilty of this,
Starting point is 00:03:34 that we want to do everything we possibly can, but sometimes that becomes our personality. When we're doing everything we can to try, I have to fix, I have to fix, I have to fix. Eventually we have to stop and go, when will I be okay with where I am, though? And that is, I'm guilty as charged, that I'm personally trying to become okay.
Starting point is 00:03:51 with myself as well, right? Even the Jay Shetty episode was incredible. And I was trying to explain to people like, when you have ADHD, talking to somebody else in a conversation, I can show up differently versus when I talk to myself. And people say, why are you so angry? I'm like, I'm not angry. I'm passionate about what I'm saying and I'm building myself up. But if I had stopped and said, okay, well, that's it. I need to keep changing and morphing and changing in morphing, I would never be going, okay, well, you know what? Eventually, I do have to accept myself for who I am. And eventually, I have to understand that, like, yeah, I'm a needy bitch, right? When it comes to a relationship, There were going to be so many people it wasn't going to work out with.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And boy, oh boy, do I have some stories that I can't wait to share as the episode goes on. And we've been sold kind of this narrative of like, if the relationship isn't working, I need to work on myself more. Or I'm attracting this because of my unheeled wounds. And if I just become more secure, they're going to show up differently. And this is the number one I hear is like the problem is my anxious attachment. And I understand where that comes from. And I think what we can look at and say is what you're describing are patterns, right? We can start to get curious about what are the patterns that I'm exhibiting.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And as I've said before, you are not too much. Maybe the behavior, maybe the way you show up, maybe the way that you handle things might be too much for somebody else. But when we fuse and self-identify with it's me, then we don't actually take into account that, wait a minute, how can every single thing about me be an issue versus these are the things I have control over and these are the things I don't? So I can take what I can use and leave what I can't. And the hard truth is that sometimes your anxiety isn't an attachment trauma. It's your body telling you that this person isn't safe. Sometimes you're too much. It's not.
Starting point is 00:05:22 It's nothing to do with you being too much. Sometimes you're just with somebody who cannot handle your basic fucking needs. And I wanted to start incorporating some analogies because I think that could be helpful. Your nervous system is like a smoke alarm. So yeah, sometimes it'll go off because you burn toast. And that's old trauma getting triggered by a harmless situation. We had that in our house. Whenever what time we make shishito peppers, the alarms go crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:42 There's no fucking fire. But sometimes there is an actual fire. And sometimes the putting out of the fire, you're standing there trying to work on the smoke alarm. The alarm isn't the problem. The fire is the problem. And that's what I mean by you can't heal and grow and your way out of a dysfunctional connection. I have had so many people that I'm just like, oh, but if, right? But if this happened, if you have to say, but if they did this, then we would be this, then you're not actually dating them. You're dating that if they change what that means for you. If they become more emotionally available, I'll feel more seen and
Starting point is 00:06:16 understood. So then it's not really about them anymore. It's about what you benefit from them changing that behavior. And that's okay. That's human, but that doesn't mean that we can't work on that. So one of the audience questions you guys asked was, how do I know the difference between a wrong match or relationship anxiety? So this is the smoke alarm question. I want you to start to get curious. Does this feeling show up in every relationship or does it show up with this person? So if your anxiety is relationship driven in general, it's going to keep following you from person to person, that's the smoke alarm being too sensitive, right? That is that every single thing, our default mode network is starting to go, no, no, danger. We've experienced this before.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Now, what do we know about the brain? According to neuroscience, our brain is a predictive machine, which means anything that even looks remotely like that, we're going to go into, wait, danger. Think about, we've talked about this before. If you're in the hunter-gatherer days and the wind blows, you can either go, ah, there's nobody, and then a tiger comes in need to you, and that was wrong, or you can always be on the defense because if it's not a tiger, at least I'm safe. And that's how our brain perceives situations is that we project onto other experiences in people,
Starting point is 00:07:23 ones and experiences that we've had. That doesn't necessarily mean that that's the factual information. And that's usually what I'll hear this with with my anxious folk is that there's something off, I just can't put my finger on it. I know something's wrong. Oh, baby, I knew something was wrong because I created that. I created that feeling and that vibe. Now, does that mean that maybe this person wasn't right for us?
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, absolutely. those are not mutually exclusive. But if I have nothing to quantify it with, then I think we need to start looking at it because then it's not that there's nothing wrong. We can quantify that there is something like their behavior or the way that they're treating you. Versus, if this is a person specific thing, it started or dramatically escalated with this partner. Your alarm is detecting that something real is there. And so I also want to look at when self-work becomes that self-blame, right? That when we take full radical responsibility so far that you've absolved to the them of any, that every problem becomes your pattern to fix. Every action or reaction becomes your wound to heal. And somewhere along the way you stopped asking, is this person actually good for me? And the question that nobody is asking is, are you doing the work to become healthier or are you doing the work to become small enough to fit into a relationship that doesn't fit you? Because of the two different fucking things. And I fell into this hook, line sinker. For anyone who's new, I'll share with you my story. And I was with an incredibly narcissistic partner who was very similar to my father. And it was
Starting point is 00:08:41 in therapy, right? If you guys listened to the heartbreak episode, you'll know the story. But when I was doing tapping, and that's where you tap on pressure points so that you can regulate and calm down while you're having hard conversations and hard thoughts. And I remember just saying it's all my fault. It's all my fault. I took 100% ownership of why it didn't work. I'm too much. I pushed him away. If I had just stopped doing this, he would have loved me more. If I stopped making things so difficult, he wouldn't have been angry with me all the time. I absolved him of any wrongdoing. And so for two and a half, almost like four months, what am I talking about? I was just going around of how I'm the worst person.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It's all me. It's all me. And then one day it hit me like a ton of bricks. And people asked me, when did it change for you? This is the moment everything fucking changed for me. When I stopped and said, it couldn't have all been my fault. The other person played a part. That doesn't absolve me of my responsibility of how I showed up in the relationship.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But what I'm also doing is I'm not absolving them of their part in this dynamic. Because at the end of the day, it takes two to tango. And if I think it's all everybody else, I'm not looking at myself. And if I think it's all me, then I'm not holding other people accountable for their part in this dynamic. And so I constantly did everything I could. Why? Why? I'll tell you why. Because if I could own the issue, if everything is my fault, that means I have full control over it. And if I have full control over it, that means I could have controlled the outcome. And if I can control the outcome, I can control the pain that I feel. But the reality is it takes two people to be part of a dynamic. So if you're constantly trying to take full ownership of the relationship, that's why you're constantly going to feel that incongruence. because it can't all be you. If it were all you, then you'd be able to change other people, and you can't because people can't change you either.
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Starting point is 00:11:32 So let's get into some studies. And I made it so that the studies will exemplify what I'm trying to say so that you guys can see it in a real-time kind of way. So in 2020, there was a study done by Joel et al. So it was published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. It was 86 researchers, 43 data sets, 11-1-1-1-1. Oh, for my number, babes. My 11,196 couples. So it was a machine learning analysis, and here's what they found. And I love being able to understand the data. The biggest predictor of your relationship satisfaction isn't your attachment style. It's not your child. It's not your childhood or your personal growth journey. It's actually relationship-specific factors. Those are
Starting point is 00:12:13 perceived partner commitment, appreciation, sexual satisfaction, and conflict. So those relationship-specific variables were two to three times more predictive than individual characteristics like personality, attachment style, or depression. In other fucking layman's terms, who you are matters, but how you feel about this specific person and how this specific person shows up for you matter way more. You could be the most secure, healed, emotionally intelligent person alive and still be miserable with the wrong partner. And so that's why constantly changing who we are. Like I saw, you know, in Instagram, all the therapists make videos that I actually really appreciate when they show like things. And the woman had a plate trying to put it in a bin. And it very clearly didn't
Starting point is 00:12:51 fit. And so she said, this is what it feels like when you try to change yourself for them. She slapped, she broke the plate and put the pieces in. But that's exactly it. You're a piece of yourself. You're not a whole, full embodied human. You're trying to fit and make it work. And this works if you're dating, if you're in a relationship right now, if you're in a marriage right now, none of this is exclusive to just anybody who's not in anything. But what we have to look at is like, what's my part and what's theirs, right? Me and Ryan, we make very conscious decisions as a couple to be in our relationship. We have conversations often of, hey, if this is the end of the road of how much you're willing to invest and I'm willing to invest, that's okay, let's talk about it. But we're not at the end of that road yet.
Starting point is 00:13:28 We're still walking the path together to determine this is right for us. That's why I think going slow is beautiful because I've rushed into it. I've been into relationships and very serious things where you involve the government. And if you don't have even a thought process of what happens if this doesn't work, then you will do everything in your power to make sure it does because the thought of being without them is more terrifying than the thought of being alone and just not having even to deal with this. And also it's more terrifying for a lot of you than being stuck in the wrong thing. I would so much rather be alone than in bad company.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I would so much rather be single and having my peace and knowing what it is that's right for me that it's out there than being with somebody who is wasting my fucking time because the more time you waste of mine, the more time you're wasting of me to be with the right person. And if I'm staring so hard at a window that's closed, I don't see all the doors opening around me because then I don't let the right person in because I'm holding on so tightly to the wrong one, trying to make them something that they're not. So one of you guys asks what makes a partner that checks all the boxes a bad match? well I think we have to look at and say what are these boxes right because I think they might look right on paper they have the job they have the values the communication skills but your body knows something your checklist doesn't and so that study backed that up it's not about their resume it's about how you feel in it with them so if you feel unseen unappreciated or consistently anxious with someone who checks all the boxes and the boxes are wrong or at least incomplete and that's why I have to I always like to clarify is it's want or need I can want you in my life and I that's that's a It's a beautiful place to be, but if I need you in my life, that's a very different outcome. The best advice my big brother ever gave me was burn the fucking checklist. And the reason he said that was know your non-negotiables, know your boundaries, know how you want to feel with somebody.
Starting point is 00:15:10 But if everybody that checks your boxes ends up being a narcissistic asshole or a piece of shit that doesn't hold any space for you, then we need to look back and say, what are in those boxes? How serious are you being about what you actually need versus want? Because I'll tell you this, baby, you know what I used to think I needed? I needed the looks and the this and this and this. And this past weekend we went to an event and I saw a ton of people there that I used to know. Like all from my pre this days, you know, the hot mess girl.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I was embarrassed. I was terrified going in. And Ryan reminded me the difference between you then and now is you. He was like, you've done this work. You've shown up differently. And he's like, you're walking in with so much more to offer than you ever used to believe that you had and nothing changed besides how you see you. And he was like, and you're walking in now with a partner. You're walking in with somebody who also sees that.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And we went, and you know what? I started noticing a lot of these people kept looking over, but nobody came up and talked. And that's fine. I don't really give a fuck. And I left feeling so empowered, not because anything changed, but because I finally realized I belonged in that room. I wasn't faking my way in there. I wasn't pretending that I shouldn't be there. I belonged in that fucking room.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And so I started to notice all those guys, as a heterosexual woman, that I used to be fucking enamored with and cuckoo. I was like, yeah, they're okay. Even Ryan, he's like, that's the guy? There was one guy, and he was like, that's the one that you thought was the most handsome version of, like, God's gift. And I saw him, I was like, hey, he's okay. You know why? It's not because he's not an attractive person. That has nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I'm never going to put anyone down for their looks. It's because there's nothing else there. And I have learned I need so much more to be fulfilled in a relationship than just an attractive person. Being good looking gets you in the door. It doesn't keep you at the table. And we have this fallacy of, well, they're pretty and they're attractive. And so then that's it. A relationship will work.
Starting point is 00:16:54 and we have the halo effect. Well, because this one thing that means everything else about them will work, but just because they're good looking or funny doesn't actually mean they have the bandwidth, the tools, and the capacity to be in a healthy and secure relationship with you. And if all you need is that they have a six-pack or that they have a pretty face, then we need to look at how much depth you offer
Starting point is 00:17:10 and require an order to be in a relationship as well and how deeply you've met yourself. So here's what doing the work can't fix, someone who doesn't have the capacity or the bandwidth to grow. Fundamental value differences, incompatible life goals, emotional unavailability that they're not fucking addressing, disrespect as their communication style and different needs for intimacy, connection, or space. And that was just, I think, the clearest thing, right?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Again, when we were at this event, there's some gorgeous people there. I'm talking, some of these bartenders, I was like, Jesus, where did you come from? Like, what parents made you? And I could acknowledge them, like, Ryan and I would look, we'd see a beautiful woman and be like, wow, she is, a total babe. But I had to stop and go, but I need more than this. I need so much more. It's not that I was doing that to understand that I want to be single, but more so just coming to terms with myself of like, wow, dude, you really have grown.
Starting point is 00:18:00 You really have evolved because what you used to give a shit about no longer matters to you because you know what you actually need to be in a healthy and secure relationship. And that's a question some of you guys had asked earlier, or later that we will preemptively get to of like, how do I know what it is that I need? That right there is what are you going to need at night? Strip the looks, right? Strip all that. What are you going to need when you're on the floor crying and you need? someone to take you to the hospital? Do you need someone that's attractive that has to leave because
Starting point is 00:18:25 there's something else more important? Or do you need somebody that has heart and soul? Again, that doesn't mean that you can't be physically attracted to your partner. But what that does mean is that we don't need all these grandiosity of big feelings and emotions. Sometimes it could be calm and steady and that's a beautiful place to be. This episode is sponsored by I AM8. Guys, I've been feeling a little off. Like not quite 100%. I've been so just tired, low energy, not really focusing. And that's why I'm starting. I'm 8's date. Daily Ultimate Essentials. I love having something convenient, baby.
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Starting point is 00:19:59 So McNulty and Fincham did a study in 2012 that was published and then the American psychologist. So it reviewed four independent longitudinal studies of married couples. They found that four positive traits, that is forgiveness, optimistic expectations, positive thoughts and kindness predicted better well-being and healthy marriages, but in troubled marriages with unresponsive partners, these exact same traits predicted worse outcomes. I want you to let that sink in. So what that means is being forgiving with someone who keeps hurting you doesn't heal the relationship. It enables the behavior. And being optimistic with someone who's checked out doesn't inspire them, it keeps you stuck. Being kind to someone who takes you
Starting point is 00:20:37 for granted doesn't model healthy behavior. It trains them that they don't need to try because you're going to overperform in order to make this relationship work. And at the end of the day, we have to stop and ask, what's my part and what is theirs or lack thereof. Somebody had asked, can't you not want to work on your attachment styles and grow and heal together? Absolutely. If both people are doing that, that's what the research shows. Your kindness and your patience and your willingness to grow, it only works if you're being met.
Starting point is 00:21:05 If you're the only one that's reading the books, going to therapy, bringing up the hard conversations, you're not actually healing together. You're healing alone in a relationship. And the myth of, I can heal us both. That is actually a myth because your healing journey is. is yours. Their healing journey is theirs and you cannot do enough work for the two of you. You cannot grow enough to compensate for their stagnation and you cannot love someone into becoming emotionally available. And I realized that even this weekend when I had seen all those people and I stopped and was
Starting point is 00:21:33 like, dude, it doesn't matter how much you heal. Do you notice how all of them have kind of stayed the same? All those same dudes, it's been four years since I've seen even half of them and they're all still single. And again, it's not that there's anything wrong with that. My point being is like, thing has changed. They're all still doing the same thing. I was even talking to a friend and she's like, dude, those dudes are pushing 45, 46 this year doing the same thing they've been doing for 15 years living in the same falk in town. Because for some folks, it doesn't matter how amazing you are. Can you motivate someone, of course? Right? When Ryan and I first met, I motivated him to see things in a different way. I didn't do it for him, though. I showed up as myself and I allowed a space in the
Starting point is 00:22:11 same way I do that for the podcast. Imagine if I said, okay, well, I show up here every week and I do all of this. changing. Would that be pretty insensitive if you're like, what do you mean none of them are so changing? I'm going through something or I'm really struggling or I'm not really understanding this. That would be me then projecting me like, oh, well, but then you're not doing it, right? I'm doing all this work. I hear that all the time. God, I hear that all the time, especially with my anxious folk. The avoidant doesn't do anything. At least I'm communicating. At least I'm doing the work. It's like, no, baby, you're throwing pasta up at the wall and seeing what sticks. Constantly talking doesn't necessarily mean communicating.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And if you're boasting, going, well, I'm doing all this work and they're doing nothing, then what I have to ask is, why are you staying then? Because if this person keeps showing you that they're not willing to do it, then what's your excuse for not walking away? I say that with love and compassion and honesty, because I remember my sister once just like yelling at me, not in a negative way, but just being like, when the fuck are you going to see it? And I just snapped me out of it. And I was like, oh, my God, she's right. And sometimes we just need to hear it of like, I'm wasting my fucking time.
Starting point is 00:23:12 here. And someone had said, there's not a question, but would love to know more as this is my 10 years of marriage. And I want you to let that sink in. And the reason that I'm saying this is because maybe I got to ask you if you've been married to someone for 10 years and they're still not willing to do anything. Do you think another 10 is going to change that? And I'm not saying divorce. Please know that. That's not like, oh, that's it. Just walk away. But what I will say is how much work are they willing to invest and how much work are you willing to invest and then how okay are you if they don't? That's a big question. Because for some people, they could say, listen, it doesn't really bother me.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It's very minute issues. Great. Good luck on speed. Enjoy your relationship. That sounds great. And for other of us, we're like, no, that doesn't work. I can't be with someone that's not going to do X, Y, and Z. Cool.
Starting point is 00:23:55 You also have the right to say that. But just because you're in a marriage or a relationship doesn't mean that we have to now just forego all the things that we want because we're married. It's like maybe we can learn from that, have a real conversation with our partner and say, what are we going to do about this? Because if they're unwilling to go to therapy or do anything, even couples therapy, whatever it is, nothing changes if nothing. changes. And so now let's go into the other side of the pendulum, right? We have the one side of like,
Starting point is 00:24:19 okay, well, if they're not willing to do anything and you're doing all this work, well, we can't force that other person. But now I want to go into the opposite side of when we use therapy speak as a cage, right? Baby, you've learned all the words, right? I need to regulate my nervous system. This triggered my attachment wounds. I'm working on my anxious patterns. But sometimes therapy language can become a cage. It's a sophisticated way to stay in a situation that you should have left. Because if you keep saying, I need to work on being less triggered. Maybe we need to acknowledge that this isn't a trigger, this is disrespect. They're just avoidant.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I need to give them space. Or sometimes they're showing you exactly how much effort they're willing to give and it's not enough. Maybe they are avoidant or maybe they really are just not giving you what you need. I'm going to use this relationship as an opportunity to heal. Relationships can facilitate healing, but if you're getting wounded faster than your healing, the math doesn't fucking math. Oh, we just need to communicate better. Maybe. Or maybe you've communicated perfectly and they've chosen not to respond because communication only
Starting point is 00:25:12 works when both people are listening. That's why I keep saying is we have to look and say, am I just using this lingo and these words to avoid dealing with the reality of like that person's not doing anything? And somebody asked a question that I actually loved. What if I'm the problem? I want to say this. I don't think anybody is the problem, including the person that is having their issues. I think what it is is there's an incongruence, right? And maybe we are facilitating part of the dynamic. Typically speaking, the people who are like truly the problem don't usually wonder if they are. But I think you can contribute to the dynamic without being fundamentally the problem. Maybe you're people pleasing so hard that you don't even know what it is that you need. Maybe your avoidance
Starting point is 00:25:51 of conflict is actually creating a false peace that's actually making everything worse. That's your work. But it's different from I'm broken and this is why this isn't working. That's why I want to say you're allowed to take accountability of your part. Yeah, you know what? I text them 100 times. You're right. This is the one thing. We speak about this on Dr. Jay's episode when it comes out. But sometimes it's not that they're avoidant. Sometimes it's that we don't know how to regulate our goddamn emotional state and even a healthy and secure person would start to shut down and get turned off by somebody who is constantly going outwards but has no regulation inwards. That doesn't make anybody a bad person, but we do need to stop with it. It's always the avoidant and it's always everybody else and we need
Starting point is 00:26:29 to start looking at ourselves and saying, how am I showing up in this dynamic? Because if there's a pattern, I can't consistently blame everyone else for it. But what we also want to do is hold a space for our experience because no one's to blame, but sometimes. Sometimes we get into that space. So let's talk about growth versus gymnastics. Growth, I'm learning to express my needs more clearly. The gymnastics, I'm learning to need less so I don't overwhelm them. Growth, I'm working on trusting after betrayal.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Gymnastics, I'm working on being okay with behavior that breaks my trust. Growth, I'm learning to self-soothe. Gymnastics, I'm learning to soothe myself because they won't show up. You can't secure your way out of insecurity-inducing behavior. No amount of attachment healing will make you feel secure with someone who disappears with that explanation, gives inconsistent effort and dismisses your needs or breaks promises repeatedly. That's not your attachment style. That's a normal response to unreliable behavior.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And we have to stop gasolating ourselves. Everything is like, it's my attachment style. No, sometimes they're just an asshole. Sometimes it has nothing to do with your attachment style. Not everything can be through that lens. Sometimes it is through the lens of they don't have the bandwidth to show up the way that I need. This episode is sponsored by One Skin. You guys know me.
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Starting point is 00:28:45 And someone asked, my boyfriend dumped me every four to five months. I always go back, help. That's what we're talking about, right? You know the pattern. You can see it. You can name it and you still go back. It's not because you're dumb. That's why if they wanted to, they would, it doesn't vulcan apply.
Starting point is 00:28:58 You can want to do something and do and want are two different parts of the brain. And maybe you never learned that taking up space is okay, right? Because if you keep going back to somebody that's treating you poorly, then what you're saying is you're riding that roller coaster and that could even be a trauma bond. That when they're here and the highs, oh my God, I need it. And when the lows, I'm not okay without them because somewhere along the way you learn that that's love and you learned that you're only care if you have them in your life. But what if I told you that you're okay no matter what because you have you.
Starting point is 00:29:26 When are you going to make a change? Because that's the reality. You can sit here all day and you can do all this work and all this work and all this work, but you know when the work adds up. Do you know when doing the work actually starts to show in your life? When someone comes after they've treated you poorly and you say no instead of yes. When someone texts you out of nowhere that you haven't heard for from six months and instead of being like, oh my God, they're back.
Starting point is 00:29:45 They want me. You say, no, thank you. I deserve better. And what really shows that you've done the work is when you can grieve the ending of things without it having to mean anything about your fucking value. And oftentimes, too, that's the identity piece of like, I'm the healer. I do the work. I don't give up on people. But that keeps you stuck.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Sometimes the most healed choice is to leave because growth isn't about staying longer. it's about seeing things clearer. And so that's where we want to stop. That's the first thing is like, is this person also facilitating in our dynamic in the issues that we're having and the progress that we're trying to make? Somebody had written in and it breaks my heart.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And she said it's the same guy. And like every time they come, when it comes back, he's so lovely and sweet. And then the second she does anything for us, I'll go on a date, even call a friend, do something for her. He's attacking her. He's putting her down. And every time he comes back, she answers.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And every time he leaves, she's depressed because her entire self-worth is dependent on are you going to come back for me? Are you going to choose me? And I get it because that was me as a little girl. It was always about who's going to come back and save me instead of realizing that's me. And even this morning in my meditation, it said, think about all the little parts of you or the adult you. And it was my adult me. And she stepped up there and she was like, no, no, I'm here now. I need you to know that I'm here now because they don't need to deal with this anymore. I get to. They don't have to. And that was such a shift for me to see I have my fucking back. I'm even noticing with myself,
Starting point is 00:31:03 negative comments, I'm like, eh, fuck off, blocked and deleted. I don't give a shit, right? You can go enjoy your mother's base or you somehow have Wi-Fi. If we let every external determine who we are internally, oh my God, that's going to be exhausting for you. And I should know it. So, let's start talking about when you stop working and when you start walking, the knowing versus leaving gap. And this is what a lot of you guys were asking. Like, why can't I leave? Why is it so easy to go back when this person comes back? How do I know when to give up and stop working. There was a study done in 2013 published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. So seven studies across multiple samples of North American adults. So Spielman and Collies found that fear of being single predicts settling for less in relationships even after accounting for anxious attachment. So people with higher fear of being single were less likely to initiate a breakup from an unsatisfying relationship. They were more likely to stay dependent on partners who were making them not happy and more likely to show romantic interest in partners who are less responsive to them.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And that's the gap between knowing and doing. Your brain knows this relationship isn't right, but your nervous system is running on a different calculation. What if I'm alone? What if this is the best that I can get? What if nobody else wants me? And that fear, not love, fear is what pulls you back every time. That's your biology.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And that's what I mean by, we have to stop and ask, is this about them or is this about what I get by not leaving and by not walking away? Because if it was actually about them, then we would be having different conversations. but the same conversations we keep having are how do I get them to like me and how do I be? But if you're trying to get somebody who is so unavailable to be into you, then I have to stop and ask,
Starting point is 00:32:39 what does this mean about you? Right? Like, how do you know when it's time to walk away? Is it a bad match? Is it bad timing? Right. You're struggling to grow. Like, you guys asked a lot of the same questions. So now I want you to ask the compatibility questions. Do we want the same things fundamentally? Not can we compromise, but do we actually want the same life? Are we both willing to grow? Not are they capable? Are they actively doing it? When I express my knees, do I feel heard? Not, do they say the right words?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Do they actually fucking change and implement it? Am I expanding or shrinking in this relationship? That's the hardest, the reframe to hit. If I just become healthy enough, then it'll work. No, no, no, my health isn't the variable here compatibility is. Oftentimes people will say, my triggers are the problem. No, triggers are information. What is this trigger trying to tell me and teach me?
Starting point is 00:33:23 I need to do more work. No, I need to ask if this person is capable of meeting me. That's the reality here is we need to. to start shifting and asking the questions that we genuinely need to ask in order to see if that works for us. And if your answer is, yeah, they're doing a lot of work on themselves. It's just not fast enough. Okay, well, then that's a reality. Maybe we give a timeline. Or if it's, yeah, they're really fucking trying to try and I'm trying to understand, that's great. But if you're dating or in a relationship with someone who refuses to do any work on themselves, and us
Starting point is 00:33:50 included, right? If we were that person, I would be okay if someone's like, okay, well, you're not really growth-minded. You're not trying to meet me there. We can't will our way into hoping that this person changes. On the same token, And if somebody is doing all that work, then we need to be cognizant and say, are we compatible? Because even if they became all of these things, is that enough for me? It doesn't make you selfish if it's not. Let's talk about the tool of the week. It's called the Responsibility Audit.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I want you to draw a line down the middle of the page. On the left column, I want you to put what I'm working on. I want you to list everything you're actively doing to make this relationship better or to process, whatever, dating. Maybe it's therapy, books, podcasts, conversations, changes you've made, right? what is in your control? On the right column, what are they working on? List everything they're actively doing, not what they say they'll do what they're actually doing. So if they keep saying that they're going to call you more and then they don't, so then we don't add that. If they say they're going to go to therapy and they don't, well, then we don't add that. Now I want you to
Starting point is 00:34:45 look at the two columns. If one column is full and one is empty, you're not in a partnership. That's a project, not a partner. And you're the only contractor who showed up, right? Like, remember group projects as kids? There was always that one person who did nothing while everyone else picked up the slack and at the end, everyone got the same grade. But your relationship shouldn't be a group project where you're doing all the work. If you stopped showing up, what would happen to the whole thing? This tells you everything you need to know about who's actually invested. If the imbalance is severe, I want you to ask yourself, why am I doing all the work for them? What am I afraid of happening if I stop? And the hardest question of all, if they're not working on this relationship, what makes
Starting point is 00:35:21 me think that they have the bandwidth in order too? I think that's really important. And as we kind of wrap up, what I need you to hear is your healing journey is yours and it's real. Your growth is real. The work you've done in yourself matters, but you can't heal your way out of a bad match. You can't grow enough to compensate for incompatibility. And you cannot do so much work on yourself that a relationship doesn't work, start suddenly working. Some relationships don't fail because you're broken because two people fundamentally want two different things. One person is doing all the work because you're compatible with who they could be, but not who they actually are. So we need to stop doing the work for them. We have to stop blaming our attack. We have to stop blaming our attack. style for their behavior. If I hear one more time like, oh, it's just my anxious attachment, no, that person's being rude and it's okay to say that. And we have to stop trying to become so small and flexible and healed enough to make something work that doesn't. I want you to hear me because when I say this, you deserve a relationship where the work is shared, where growth goes both ways where you don't have to become someone else just to be love. And no, that's not asking too much. That's asking for the bare minimum. And the bare minimum is no longer fucking negotiable around here.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And so I want to leave you with this. You can't try. Try to fix this person, but you know what you can do? You could decide if they deserve space in your life any longer. Because if the answer is no, I think you know what to do with it. And that's okay if you're scared. I think that's really human. I think that makes so much sense that it does feel really overwhelming. But like my mama always said, if you're scared of being alone, aren't you already?
Starting point is 00:36:42 Let that be the answer. All right, babies, I love you. Thank you for sitting with me for another week, our hard truth series number two. Don't forget to rate and review the show. Share it with a friend with anybody that you think would benefit. Leave a comment. And let me know what you guys think. here for you. If you guys want more, we've got some new courses. We have a new membership coming soon
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