The Sabrina Zohar Show - 44: How human design can help understand you and others, how to navigate dating and understand yourself deeper with Erin Claire Jones!

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of Do the Work podcast. And this time a bonus episode. My name is Sabrina Zohar and I am your host. Guys, yay, bonus episode. I know, you guys have been asking this for a long time. You've been asking me for a while. And I think we're going to get ready for some bonus episodes in 2024. So I'm super, super excited because why not, right?

Who doesn't need a little bit more support, especially with the world being as fucked up it as it is? So let's get to it. So today, guys, I have Aaron Claire, who is just honestly one of the most beautiful human beings and just such a beautiful presence. And we had an incredible conversation on human design. For a while, I actually didn't know what human design was. And it's like kind of similar to the concepts of astrology where like it uses your birthday where you're born and stuff to figure out your blueprint. But understanding, I didn't know I was a projector. I didn't understand what that meant.

And it's made so much sense now that I've talked to Aaron and understood my chart. holy smokes and why how it worked out with me in tech guy how it manifested how you know the way that I was dating and the reason that it changed and why it all worked out it was amazing and it's it's so great because it's used to understand yourself but also how you interact with others and so I'm so so excited and yeah this episode we have another episode coming out Friday as always we have our our usual but I hope you guys liked a little bit of a sprinkling in to everybody that came out to the event I just want to say thank you so fucking much we had a full house in LA. It was the most incredible live event. The first of so many. Don't worry, guys.

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more ways that don't cost anybody anything, which is awesome. So without further ado, let's get right on into it. Oh, Aaron. Hello. Oh, okay, we're going to take part 17 of this because I'm an idiot with technology. But welcome. I'm so excited to finally have you on Do the Work Podcast. Thank you so much for sitting with me. Oh, my gosh.

Thank you so much for having me. Of course. Okay, Aaron, we got to get into the meat and potatoes here. I think a lot of people have no idea what the fuck human design is. They never heard of it. Or people are skeptics, all the fun stuff. So can you give us a background of you and how you learned about human design and what human design even is?

kind of just in life. Of course. So human design is a system based on your time, date, and place of birth that reveals your energetic blueprint and how you're wired to thrive, whether it's in how you date, how you cultivate relationships, how you build a career, how you exercise, all the things. It gives us each our own very unique and specific roadmap to finding our flow. I think so often we get stuck trying to be a thing that we're not, and human design really returns us to who we are. I discovered human design very serendipitously. It was definitely never my plan. I had no idea what human design was growing up. But in 2015, I was at a friend's gathering in New York City and sat next to a stranger who read my human design chart. And it was the most accurate,

confronting, insightful thing I'd ever heard. And the end of the conversation by saying, Aaron, I think you're meant to do this. And like, I think we're meant to work together. And it was just such a wild invitation. And there was just something about the system that resonated so deeply that I was like, yeah, let's do it. And so it's been an amazing journey. And a rocky one, of course, with ups and downs and all the things. But that's how I really started. And it's been almost nine years. That's awesome.

I love a good story of just like, I unexpectedly did this and I met this person serendipitously. Can I ask, how does human design impacted your life? Like when you started to really learn about yourself, what was that journey like? I mean, it was so useful because I, again, when I discovered my human design, I was living opposite of it in every single way.

You know, my design is so much around not being a doer and really being like a leader and a guide and a teacher. And I had been like trying so hard to be a doer in New York City with little success. And so it allowed me to kind of actually build a career that was way more aligned and to build a business as a projector in human design, which I know we'll talk about. It also really shifted my relationships. You know, my design like yours is all about being invited in, being recognized. And I realized I was investing in so many relationships where I actually didn't feel seen at all. And like, I just like didn't, I saw them, but did not. feel seen in return. And so I just had a much different, I just invested in different relationships

and my community entirely changed. I found my husband. It was like I then moved. It was like everything in my life shifted because I just started operating in a way that felt much more authentic to me and was aware of all the areas in which I'd really been resisting that. I love that you actually brought that up because it's funny, two parts to it. But the first one was when I first, when we went over my human design and we were talking about it. Of course, now where I'm mad it made sense. I'm like, oh my God, yeah, I use my voice and I like to do. I like to speak more than I like to write and we're doers and shakers and movers, but like we still need our time and to be able to disconnect. But the biggest one was the inviting in because I think for so long I lived in this

chase let mentality of like, no, you know, kind of that that New York mentality of like, well, if you want it bad enough, you got to go get it. And that was reflective in my relationships as well. And it's so funny because I realized as well, I wasn't living in alignment to who I was. And for a while, it didn't make any sense. And then when I started to do all this stuff and started to realize like when I first started my TikTok and I was starting to create videos, the trolls really affected me. And so I was like, okay, so then maybe don't talk about this or maybe don't say this. And, you know, oh, you have to water yourself down.

And I was like, wait a me, I'm living for other people. I'm not actually doing what feels like it's in alignment with me. When I shifted it and the one ship that you're going to go, aha, that makes sense for you, was when I, when my dog passed away and I was just kind of in this stage of like, I'm not pursuing people like, fuck this. I had been dating this guy that was like wildly avoidant and was just really like not being, not cool when the dog passed and just not being the kind of guy I needed. And I made a new rule for myself.

And I said, I'm going to use hinge passively. I'm not going to reach out to people. I'm not going to match them. I'm going to receive matches. I am going to receive. And sure enough, my partner, I sent me the mess up. message and he was the one, he was out of all of them. I said, he's the one that I love, like, he's the one I will go for. He's the one I like the most, even though he's not my type and all

that stuff. And I said, but I loved the way he was pursuing. He was consistent. He was making those plans. And so when you told me like, no, you're meant to be received in, not pushing. That also was the shift I made with my career with the podcast, with everything, where I was like, okay, I want to stand really firmly in who I am. I'm not doing this to go and get people. I'm doing this for the people that get it to come in, to be receptive and welcome them. And I found when we had when we were talking about our human design, it now makes sense. But I think had I, had you and I spoke in last year, I would have had the acceptance of I'm living my life room. Totally. Totally. And I think that it can be really confronting in that way. That's why I said my experience of

discovering it was like, I felt so relieved and also like, oh my gosh, I've been trying to be all these things that I'm not. But I also knew that what I was doing wasn't working. And so I was like so, And I feel like you would have known the same, you know? And I was like, okay, there's another way to just try. And like, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, you know? But I think that I definitely discovered similar to you that being invited, like, it changed everything, you know? And it just felt so much more natural. And just so you guys know who's when you're listening, everyone's meant to do things differently.

Some people are meant to pursue, you know, it's just not the two of us. And so my question actually, so somebody had asked on Insta that made sense because I guess she's a projector. So I was like, yeah, okay. She had asked, she said, well, as a projector, should I not use apps like Bumble? Because that is the woman makes the first move. The woman has to pursue. And I was like, oh, I was curious from you. Would it blanketed statement like that work for all projectors or they're nuance?

And I asked that because I'm like, my partner and I are both projectors. So I would imagine those nuance. There's absolutely nuance. So as a projector, and this is one of the five types in human design, we're here to be invited into opportunities and relationships. specific to dating, work, all the things. And so when it comes to an app like that, I think what I would say is that, like, you can absolutely reach out to somebody,

but I would not, like, connect with them unless you really feel seen by them and you really feel invited in by them and appreciated by them. So, like, you can make the first movement and it feels right, but, like, I would not keep leaning in unless that invitation feels like it's there.

And it's not always formal. It can be super energetic. If somebody's expressing a lot of curiosity, asking a lot of questions, that might make you feel like, I feel so seen and invited in, and I want to explore this more. I think with you and your partner,

you guys invite each other in. You know, if you're feeling seen and appreciated, then you can kind of extend that invitation. Go ahead. Which is interesting that you say that. As you said that, I was like, huh, it's true. I was looking at this in like a one way of like,

well, but he pursued me and he was asking me out and he was doing that. And it's like, but how I let, how I was, he was welcomed in, I guess, in the adverse was super communicative. And he always said, like, this is the most communication I've ever experienced. And I think he felt I was,

receive, he was able to receive and being welcomed in as opposed to him trying to push the communication onto somebody else and force it. It was, oh, this feels organic to me. I feel welcomed. Yeah, and I love that point because I think part of why it's so important for us to be invited as projectors is that our energy is very intense. Like, are we like luck in the people would make them feel so seen and recognize that if people are ready for that, I could feel like overwhelming. And so part of why that invitation is there is just so that we're only putting our energy on the people that are really ready for it. And so in a case like that, like, had he been really pushing and you like had

been wanting it, it probably would not have felt good. But because like there was this reciprocity, it really worked. And so I would say same with the person who asked about bubble. Like pushing probably not the right move. But if you feel really invited in, keep leaning in. Totally. And so now that actually, I'd be curious, guys, have so many questions for you. I can't wait.

Now what are the five human designs? And can you give us a little bit of an understanding of each? Obviously, spoiler alert for everybody. there are what, like a billion different little subpategories. So it's not like, it's not like you're a tourist. Okay, you're a tourist. It's the same as kind of astrology as well of like, you have your rising, you have your moon, you have this, this.

It's like we can't self-identified just to one. But what are the majors and kind of how do they manifest out? How do they manifest? Yes. So the majors are manifesting generators, generators, projectors, reflectors and manifesters. If you guys want to look for your up, you can at human design blueprint.com,

you'll see a really wild looking sharp, but what you want to look at is just the type. So generators are really natural duvers. They have all this, like, energy and vitality, and they're really here to just, like, make things happen and use up their energy throughout the day in ways I feel really satisfying and kind of drop in a bed, exhaust them and delightfully spend. They're very magnetic.

So when it comes to dating, they're really meant to just keep their awareness open and see who lights up their gut. And when they feel that kind of nudge or expansiveness in their gut, then they go pursue a thing. So they're very much meant to be kind of gut-led and not mind-led. Is that clear? Yeah.

Manifesting generators are very similar to that, but they're meant to be quite multi-passionate doers. They may love moving in between many different passions, many different interests. Each day needs to build new and exciting and different. It's really important to kind of date and be partnered with people that really love how big and powerful and passionate their energy is and they don't feel kind of confined or blocks it in any way.

Manifesting generators are very fast. They can find the quickest way to get from A to Z. so I would make sure that you're not dating somebody who's trying to keep up with you or you're not expecting others to try to keep up with you. And you, similar to generators, are really meant to kind of trust your gut to kind of wait for that nudge in your gut before you go pursue a relationship. So say you're on an app like Bumble or Hinge or Tinder, just being like, who's sparking my gut?

Or you're out of gathering and you see somebody and you feel like this, like my body's being pulled towards them. Go talk to them. You know, let your gut guide you. Then we got projectors like in you. And projectors are not really. here to be consistent doers. Our energy can really ebb and flow. We're often much, much more natural leaders, guides, advisors, teachers, podcasts, host, coaches, very naturally

wise about people, you know, really good at giving advice if people want it. And so we're really here to be invited. We're here to be invited in. So not forcing opportunities or relationships before we know that somebody really genuinely sees us and really desires our presence. How's that feel to you? That feels very in alignment. And so, funny even just like side note um my friend masha who's on the podcast all the time she my mom me like my partner we're all protect projectors and we're like oh wow yeah i had no idea and then our friend is a manifesting generator and she's like oh i think i'm like the unique one i was like yeah look up but whatever she's the one i think is like the less but my um when i was talking to masha i said

she was like oh what what is tech guy like what is he and i said he's a projector i'm shocked and she right she's even wrote she goes i'm shocked but i'm not she's like knowing him as well as i do she goes I never thought I was a projector because I wasn't living in alignment with what I was meant to be doing. And she was like, and then when I shifted, it all makes sense. She was like, I actually think he does have a lot of those. She's like, but he's so rigid and so in his little like tech brain and there's no science behind this. And I want facts and all that that she was like, I actually could think he really could probably come more into his own if he actually understood his human design. And I was like, here's my projector.

I know. I feel like what we have to do is just like give him his blueprint. and just like let him read it. I'd be like, take or leave it and just see where he ends up. You know, because I do. That's what I did. I literally, I forwarded to him and I said, I can take what you want. You can leave what you don't.

I'm not going to judge you. Kind of will, but it's fine. I was like, we can talk about it later. I think as long as it's presented that way, you know. Okay, then we've got manifest stickers. Manifesters are meant to be these very disruptive, innovative forces, like here to bring new ideas into the world, here to do things differently, like really just like not here to be told what to do or guided or manage it anyway.

Like, they are here to be free, autonomous and in control. Their energy can really ebb and flow. When it comes to dating, they are here to make the first move. You know, so they are meant to follow any urges or inspirations they feel to just be like, this is what I desire and this is who I am. It's so funny because so many manifesters I've sat with have been so resistant to making the first move.

But then when they think back to their relationships, like the ones that really were the most meaningful were all the ones that they initiated. So it can be scary. And I would also say, right? And see what happens. The final type is a reflector. Reflectors are these very just like wise individuals who just like see and sense and feel things that a lot of people miss. They can be very fluid, express themselves in many different ways from day to day.

Can be, feel like a projector, like a manifesting generator. They're like all of it. But when it comes to dating and opportunities, they often meet people when they're in the right space. And so they'll often meet somebody when they're like at their favorite coffee shop or they like go to their favorite salsa class. It's like when they're in the right physical space, the right people. the right opportunities emerge. I would also say when you're dating as a reflector, go on dates in restaurants and sit at tables that feel good because you being in the right space creates the right experience. So I would encourage you to be incredibly high maintenance about your things.

Oh, that's so funny because, and I love that. Because something, a lot of people will always ask me, you know, how can I meet people? How can I meet people? Like, I don't want to do the apps. And I'm like, okay, I'm not even that. I'm not even that. I'm not even as a projector. But nonetheless, I'm always like interject yourself into things you like to do. Put yourself into, of places. Like, as for me, I don't drink alcohol. It's not my thing. It's never has been. Why would I go to a bar? Why would I try to meet somebody out at a bar when that's not, and that doesn't resonate with who I am? And so I was like, oh, that's interesting. I guess that really could be part of someone's personality that that's where they thrive the most is doing

things that they genuinely feel like light them up so that they can actually meet people. Yes. And have you ever, have you ever experienced somebody that has been, has, you've read, you've done their chart and you're just like, they're just like absolutely not. None of this makes any sense. I don't know what you're talking about. Like, because you know like with astrology sometimes you can read and you're like, some of this, wow, makes sense. And some I'm like, I don't know where you got this from that like doesn't even add up.

And do you ever have that experience? Not as much as I thought I would. You know, I feel like I really expected that getting in a human design. I'm like I'm getting straight into the woo woo world. Like people are going to think this is totally freaky. But like I just feel like human design is so specific. And it just often speaks. this very deep knowing that people have.

Like even the most skeptical people that I have read for, they're just like, they have told me they don't want to believe what I'm saying because they don't believe in mystical systems like these, like your tech guy, you know? But then they're like, but everything you're saying is so specific. And it feels like you've been following me around for like three weeks or a month or my whole life. Like there's no other way you would know this. And so I have not experienced that, but I really have expected to.

There have definitely been moments where things will land at different times where they might see a piece where they're like, I'm not. to know, but I don't really see this showing up yet. And then they'll call me six months later. And they're like, oh, my God. And now I get it. You know? And so I think that it's been so fun to watch that journey in people.

That would have been me last year. A thousand percent. You had told me you're going to do it as public speaking and do all this, but like, you're fucking insane. Okay, fine. I have my clothing company, but maybe that's it. And it's like, I also think that's the fun thing about human design is like, if you read yours, get your blueprint, understand it, then it's like, cool.

it'll either validate. Like for me, after our session, I was like, I'm on the right track. I was like, holy shit. I feel like I'm actually living in my alignment. Genuinely, I was like, I got reaffirmed, but it felt like it was versus the opposite too of like, like, Masha, who was like when I found out, I wasn't in alignment with how I was living and making those changes. Like, did you ever have that experience between you and your husband of like you reading

it and being like, wow, I'm not in alignment or I am? Like, I'd be curious to see the dynamic that you guys had together when you were. kind of first discovered this as you were like a partner. Yeah, it's, you know, it's a great question because I think that I have, I see both experience in people. Like I sit with people that are living their design so clearly. Even people like in their 70s and they're like, oh, this is so validating. Like I learned all these things for myself and human design like just validates that. And I think, you know, when you are self-aware and doing that work, like you will live in alignment with your design and human design will just validate what you've already found out to be

true about yourself. Yeah. If you're not yet living in your alignment, it can be really confronting. and it was for me because when I first discovered human design, I was living opposite of my design in every single way. My partner was not. He's like kind of epic at living his design. So he's just like, I've got it. And I'm like, I do not. So I think that it was a bit more of a bumpy road for me.

And in like a really positive way, in a way that I just had to like really unlearn some serious things. Like as projectors, like I derive so much of my work from like how much I could do and how hard I could work. And I like didn't ever want to stop. Yeah. And my design is so much around stopping, resting, spaciousness, relaxing, being supported. So like, I think that that was really hard to allow.

But my partner was the one that really reminded me of that. But I also think that, you know, human design is an ongoing journey. Like I feel like knowing my design and knowing my partner's design is so useful. And now my daughter, although she's, you know, nine months old, so we'll watch out that manifest. But I think that we are taken off track every single day in different ways. But because I know our designs, I'm like, oh, I see what's happening. you know, or I see why we're having conflict because of this. And so I think it just helps me understand what we're moving through

and how to kind of come back to send for more quickly and more gracefully. Which I was actually going to ask you, like for anybody out there, what is the responsible way to use human design of dating? And what is the irresponsible way to use human design and dating? Because we do have to preface both. I would love to hear your thoughts on that. Totally. So the irresponsible way, and again, this is my perspective.

There are plenty of human design people that are going to disagree with me. And the irresponsible way would be like, I'm going to look at an app and only day generators, you know, I'm like going to look for somebody with this specific design because like I have to do this. And even I had somebody that was like, I was like trying to give birth to my daughter at a certain time so she wouldn't have this design. I was like, oh, no. So it's not about like I'm going to choose somebody based on their design. I hire somebody based on their design or like try to have a C-section at a certain time based on this design. It's more that like once you naturally feel chemistry with somebody, then. And that's like the perfect time to look at somebody's designing. Okay, now that we know that this feels really right for us, how can I understand you better? How can I support you? Like, how do you work? How do you make decisions? Like, how can I ask you questions in a way that actually works for you?

So I would say once that knowing is there, then dig into your designs and know how to best support each other. Because I do not have a belief that like certain designs can be together and certain cannot. Some might require more work than others, but often that work is worth it. And so I think it more just helps us know, like, how can we best be with the people that we choose? And I think there's honestly value in both. Like if you're with somebody who's very similar to you, there's a lot of harmony and understanding and just natural ease. If you're with somebody who's really different,

there's often like a lot of attraction because you're like, you are so different, but you have to understand that so you no longer try to be the same. No, which makes total sense again to everybody. Please don't use these like horoscopes. Please don't use them. My coroscopes because I get that all the time. Like, they'll like, oh, you know, I'm a tour.

Should I not date this? And it's like, you are letting something. And not being offensive on astrology, but it's like there is no science. There's no 100% definitive proof that you writing someone off because they're a Capricorn is the right decision. It's like there's a lot of nuance. There's a lot of things that play into it that just because somebody is a human designer, like you said, just because you're a projector, like should you be avoiding

other people? It's like I what I feel like often happens when people do that. It's like, do you not trust yourself? You have to listen to something else to let you know if this person's good for you. but I do have a question for you, what is the difference between human design and astrology when we look at like being able, like, do you think one over the other? Are you familiar with both? Like, I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. Yeah, it's a great question. I think people assume that I like know a lot about astrology because of human design. They're like, so what are all your things? I'm like, oh, I have to build my app. I don't remember. You know, I think that like I love astrology. I don't understand astrology. You know, I've done readings for plenty of astrologists or astrologers that are like, what in the world is human design? And so I would say, like, one, astrology does feed any human design. Human design holds for many different systems from astrology to the Aiching, to the chakra system to Kabbalah, like all to kind of give us this blueprint of who we are.

But I would say they're really different systems, you know? And like, and they give us really different information. It's often incredibly complementary information, but it's different information. I don't know enough about astrology to say that it's not practical because I think that any of these systems can probably be used in really practical ways. But I think what drew me as human design was how practical. it was and that was something I didn't find in any other system that I had explored. It's just like, what are the actual tools we can use to like apply this information in our

lives in a way that we could experience meaningful transformation? And I think that like that was what was so appealing to me about human design because we don't need more information. We're in a time when there's so much information everywhere. I think we need real tools that we can use. 100%. Now speaking of figuring out the human design aspect, the body graph is very, we're not, what? It's like when you go into astrology and then I'm like,

What is with all the planets and the signs and the this? And I'm like, I don't understand. Is the body girl? Like, how do you read that? How long did it take you to fucking figure this out? I know. It's not a really intuitive looking thing. It took, I mean, I've been done it for nine years.

Like, I think that I probably got like a handle in it after maybe two years. Like, obviously, it took like quicker than that. I was able to like speak about things. But like to really understand it or really integrated a way it took me a while. Yeah. But it's interesting. on our website. We actually now, when you look up your human design on our website, the first thing you see

is like a summary all about your unique design and not your chart, you have to like click through to look at your chart, mostly because we had people have that experience or they would see their chart immediately and then be like, what? And we're like, let's just tell them what the chart says. And then they can kind of go deeper if they desire. Yeah, which makes total sense. Because when I first looked, I was like, I don't know what any of this is, all these little circles and squares.

And I was like, hey, but how, like, is it going based off like the body map or, where are all those where what is it based on what so that is kind of a reflection of the body so each of those shapes that you see basically when you look at a human design chart you'll see nine different shapes that are either shaded in or white those shapes represent different kind of like areas of energy in our body whether it's how we handle our emotions how we handle stress how we express ourselves our voice how we handle fear and and it really speaks to how the energy moves at our design and something that's really interesting especially in the context of relationship is the areas that are shaded in your design are the areas where your energy pours out of you

and you impact other people. It's like what other people feel in your presence. And so for you specifically what people like feel like what is really consistent within you and what you're impacting people with is like your mind, your ideas, your opinions, your insights, your voice, you know, your identity. I feel like you. She ain't wrong. Yeah.

And then the areas that are white in your design are actually the areas where you're taking in other people's energy. And so those are really useful things to know because it could take you pretty off track if you taking on other girls stuff and thinking it's your own. And so an example for you is that you're really sensitive to other people's emotions. So you can just feel where they're at. And that's an amazing gift. And honestly, an amazing gift. But you do because you can mirror back to them what they're feeling and help them navigate anxiety they're feeling. But it also requires you to have the awareness that what they're feeling is not your own and your job is not to fix or be responsible for it. Need a vehicle that isn't afraid to make a splash?

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for you and obviously take or leave any of this you know i think that like a big need for you one is like a lot of time alone because you're so sensitive like space and time alone is so key um sleeping alone i would say is really healthy for you if you desire it i'm working on it i already told teca i I was like, listen. I even said, I came out after our session. I said, listen, you know, she confirmed to me what I've been saying for a while, which is I don't sleep well with other people. I've always known this about myself. And I said, well, you know, we're going to have a guest room. And he just looks at me. He's like, oh, we're doing this. And I was like, we might. Okay. I was like, maybe we will try it. We will see. And I'm like, listen. So help me God. If I get better rest with a four nights that you are out of town, I'll even dare to be, I'll see you in the mornings. Okay. Because I am not the same person to do a status quo of, oh, everybody. says we have to do this, which means we have to do it. It's like, no, what I want to do is make sure that I take care of myself and wake up as the best version of myself. So if that means I need to be alone or I need to sleep alone, totally. So be it. Yeah, and everyone benefits. You know, and you feel better. Okay, another, I want to touch your two more. I'm curious

whether you resonate with this one. So for projectors, it's so important for us to feel really recognized and seen by the people that we're really investing our energy in. And so often a big love language for us as words of affirmation just as a way to be like, oh, they see me. Like, they get me. Do you feel like that's true for you? 100%. I used to not. I used to always say, I don't care of like, I don't care about words of affirmation, like,

whatever, who cares? And then I dated someone who nothing, not even a like, you look pretty. I like your hair. Wow, we look great. What a cool color. Nothing. Not a fucking lick of a nothing. And that's when I after was like, okay, Sabrina, you learn something new about yourself.

That is really important for you. It's super important. And I don't need to be like boasted and bragged. And I'm like, but if you want to tell me, it's fine. But like it is, it's just a nice reaffirmation for me to be like, okay, you're on the right. Like you're doing things right. You're doing it right. It's okay.

Especially with like, I mean, especially now with the field that I'm in of being so public, I do get a lot of the negativity. It's like I have to deal with people. Even some of my clients will be like, you know, dude, what is going on in the comments? Like, are these people sane? And I'm like, listen, the reason I'll bother with it is because you see what I see. It's like you could see that these people are not all together there. If you're going to fucking attack people and go off on a social media channel, it's like, babes, it's speaking so much more volumes about you than it is me.

But nonetheless, it's like that does need to be balanced with a little bit more of the people in my circle saying, hey, you know, you're doing a great job. Don't let that affect you because if you don't have anybody in your surrounding saying that, it's hard to be able to really determine what's reality and what's not. 100%. Yes. And in moments like that, then you can just get a sense like who really does see me. you know, because somebody also might even offer you recognition that, like, feels totally inauthentic. And you're like, oh, like, you don't really see me. That's fine. You know, but I think that words of affirmation will really offer that clarity. I would say another area to really support you or a love language, whatever you want to call it, is being a sounding board for you. Like, you're somebody that we talked about in our session that, like, you're here

to talk things out. And this is not true for all projectors. Like, you find clarity by just saying things out loud. And it's not about looking for advice from others, but just like having clarity come through your voice and through the tone of your voice. And so having people that will ask you question and pull your truth out of you rather than offering advice or opinions is one of the best ways to love on you. It's so funny because I think I'm like that. I'll just talk. Like I'll literally just be like, okay, did it. And like I'll solve my own problem. And every time tech guy, would just turn around and be like, great chap. And I'm like, he'll always laugh. And I'm like, no, but this is how I operate. I'm like, I have to. My mom has always said that she's like,

process. Like do your processing. And I'll just bitch, bitch, bitch for like 10 minutes. And then I'm like, okay, never mind, I got it. And it's like, sometimes nobody even said anything. And it's like, but that's how I am. That's just how I am. And I thought I was insane half the time for just talking out loud. But like, no, I was designed that way. And I love that.

I've had so many clients with this. They'll, like, be like, I left a voice note from my friend. And then like, I'll text. I'm like, you don't have to listen. I figured it out. Thanks so much, though, you know? But like, I love that. That's exactly how you're meant to do it.

And it's so helpful because that he could just be like, oh, this is like, this is the the press. Yeah. And his eyes rolling. I'm the queen of voice notes and I have had a rule from him. I'm not allowed to. So now I've loophold and sent videos because I don't want to have to write it out. Don't let me do it.

But that's like, but this is what I find so fun about human design is like, again, I'm not saying that if you guys go and get your chart that all of a sudden you have to live and die by this sword. It's like you're like you even said, Aaron, like leave what you don't, leave what you want. Like leave what doesn't resonate and take what does. It's like not everything is going to be a marker and is going to be a nail on the head. but I think for anyone who's curious, I do find it to be interesting as a way to just have a deeper understanding of yourself,

to maybe even just have those moments like I just did up being like, oh, that's why I do this, because it genuinely does work for me. And I don't have to attack myself or put myself down for doing it. I'm like, well, no, that's just how I operate. 100%. Yes. And I do have one more question for you. Yeah.

Can you change any part of your human design? or is this who you are? Great question. So, you know, your human design is who you are, but how you express it in your life can just change over and over again. Like you're somebody who's like really here to be like an expert. I know what you're talking about and be an authority, but like I know you might not like the word expert, you know,

but other people might see it in you. And it's so funny. And because in your design, like people will likely call you that, even though you likely won't call yourself that. Like they see your expertise before you do. Anyways, tangent. But like I would say that true. But true.

But like what you want to dive deep into and become an authority on is probably going to keep changing and evolving. You know, so it's more that like how we express our design will change over time. But the kind of like core blueprint is there in terms of like, how are you meant to make decisions? How does your energy operate? What are you really sensitive to? But like your relationship to all those things will change. Of course, throughout your life. That's awesome.

I'm so glad I got to learn more about this with you because it's the type of thing like, yeah, you can Google it. And it's like I could find out all these things. but like I had actually been seeing your social for prior to us even connecting because I would friends would always send me little things or we would send each other different ones and just to understand. And so I'm grateful that we have people like you that are guiding people effectively and using this responsibly and teaching people how to learn more about themselves and not with shame or blame, but with curiosity to see what resonates. And like I would imagine that if somebody gets upset or doesn't like what they see in their human design, like that might be a really good

area to start of like what's coming up for you. Oh, Aaron, thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. So for anybody that wants to work with you or anything that's coming up, can you share with everybody? It'll all be in the show notes anyways, but just for them to know what's happening in your world and how can they work with you? Of course. So on Instagram, I'm at Erin Claire Jones and Joanne's Design Blueprint.

Share lots of good stuff there. So if you look up your design, you can just like, oh, this post is for me or this post is for me. If you want to learn all the things about your unique design and you're like, okay, just tell me about me. The best place is to get your blueprint guide, which is basically a guide, all about your unique design and how to work with it. It's super practical, super actionable, not full of jargon at all. We have a discount code, which is do the work, right? Awesome. Yes. Okay. And it's totally personalized. Like there are hundreds of thousands of

possible blueprint guides, so you'll get one all about you. I also offer sessions, partnership sessions, and I have a bunch of classes on our website. If you're like, okay, Aaron, teach me everything human design. Awesome. Cool. And I will link everything in the show notes. I'll put the discount code just for people. I have the blueprint. I got mine for tech I and I. And it's like, it's like, it's one of those things. Like some of the things I'm like, like, I was reading his and I was like, okay, I don't know about maybe one or two things. But yeah, for the most part, I was just like, all right, dude, you want to still try and tell me that this isn't you. That's fine. You could just read it. You're like, you don't need to worry about it. I'm just going to use this. Thank you so much. Tonight's date. And I know, we will be discussing both of them. So I'm super excited. And I will give you a breath. us. But thank you again so much, Erin. It was such a pleasure to have you on.