The School of Greatness - 117 Scott Harrison: From Nightclub Promoter to Well Digger and the Power of Serving Others
Episode Date: December 22, 2014"There's a real freedom that comes through service." - Scott Harrison If you enjoyed this episode, find links to donate and show notes at www.lewishowes.com/podcast/scott-harrison. ...
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This is episode number 117 with Charity Water founder, Scott Harrison.
Welcome to the School of Greatness.
My name is Lewis Howes, former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message
to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
Thanks for spending some time with me today.
Now let the class begin.
In 2004, I left the streets of New York City for the shores of West Africa.
I'd made my living for years in the Big Apple, promoting top nightclubs and fashion events,
for the most part, living selfishly and arrogantly. Desperately unhappy, I needed to change. Faced
with spiritual bankruptcy, I wanted desperately to revive a lost Christian faith with action
and asked the question, what would the opposite of my life look like? Today's guest, everyone, is Scott Harrison,
who is an incredible human being, went on about a decade of a dark path in his life,
and then decided to turn it around to figure out what was really important to him and what would
bring him true happiness. We dive into his story, his background, his experiences, what he's up to
with Charity Water, how he's trying to make a
change in the world, and how you can step up in your life if you're not feeling fulfilled,
if you're not feeling called forth to already be doing what you're meant to do in this life.
I'm very excited to introduce you to the one and only Scott Harrison.
Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness podcast. I'm very excited about today's guest, Mr. Scott Harrison. How are you doing, man? I'm good, man. Thanks so much for
having me. Yeah, I'm very excited to dive in and connect with you. I've been hearing about you for
a number of years. I supported building a well, I think four years ago with Yannick Silver in one of his events. And I'm all
about your mission of built a well with Generosity Water as well with Jordan and very excited to
learn more about why you're doing it all, how it all got started, and what you're up to now.
So let's go ahead and get into why you got started. And I think it all started with your
31st birthday. Is that correct?
Yeah.
I mean, I guess it started a little before there, but that was day one of Charity Water, my 31st birthday.
And I had just come back from volunteering in West Africa for about two years on a humanitarian mission. and threw my birthday party. And instead of keeping the money that we made on the night,
I charged all my friends $20 at the door.
I gave them an open bar,
and we raised about $15,000 for our first few water projects.
And then we were off to the races.
Very cool.
Now, why did you decide to, I mean,
you were in nightclubs, and you were a manager of nightclubsubs or you were, excuse me, a promoter of nightclubs.
Yeah.
Don't give me that much credit.
You weren't managing it.
You were promoting them.
I said the other day, someone's like, oh, yeah, Scott was in the hospitality business.
Yeah, right.
You're giving far too much credit.
Yeah, but you were into a lot.
You were into drugs.
You were into, you were into a lot. You were into drugs. You were into drinking constantly. And what made everything change from you deciding to make this your mission as opposed to being a successful promoter, I should say?
carbon monoxide gas leak into a new house we moved into. And it almost killed her and just completely destroyed her health. It irreparably damaged her immune system. So I really grew up
kind of as a good kid in a caregiver role, you know, helping to take care of mom, only child,
active in my church, and then just at 18, crashed and burned. I mean, it's, it's like, you know, my life was a cliche. I mean,
it's, it's kind of sad to just think about, you know, move to the city, grow my hair down to my
shoulders, start drinking, start smoking, you know, start, uh, you know, trying all the drugs
that I could. And, uh, and it just led to a kind of decadent dark 10 year period of my life. Uh,
I mean, it was, it was a decade, I'm sad to say.
Why did it crash if you had this good foundation and these good values and morals and habits that
you were creating and support group, it sounded like? Why did it all crash?
Man, Lewis, I don't know. The rebellious spirit. I mean, my parents were amazing. It's funny,
I was doing an interview recently about being a dad and just had my first kid. And, you know, they were reflecting
on, you know, what my dad could have done differently to not raise a prodigal. I'm like,
I don't know, he did everything right. You know, he was amazing and stood by my mom through her
sickness and just was a man of honor and integrity. And, you know, something in me, I don't know, you know, there's that story in the Bible where the prodigal son kind of, you know,
gives his dad the middle finger for no reason and says, I'm going to take my birthright and I'm
going to go hang out with hookers. And, you know, he winds up in the pig pen, comes back. And,
you know, the father in that story is portrayed just as this, you know, after all of that, after all his son put him through, he goes running to him.
He throws him a party.
He puts him in the best clothes and welcomes him back.
So my dad was kind of the dad in that story.
And I was the prodigal that kind of gave everybody the middle finger.
So it was 10 years of just, I think part of it was just, you know, being told you're not allowed to do stuff.
years of just, I think part of it was just, you know, being told you're not allowed to do stuff.
And, you know, I was being told through kind of the rules of the church not to have fun. So I wanted to go and do that stuff I wasn't allowed to do. And, you know, on the outside, you know,
I looked like a successful club promoter and we were jumping into, you know, town cars with models
and flying around to Milan and Paris and chasing
Fashion Week and really chasing the party around the world. But it's a pretty lonely,
sad existence. You know, I mean, I was going to dinner at 10, the club at 12, after hours at 5.
And, you know, other people would be on their lunch break when, you know, normal people,
when I'm trying to get to sleep, you know, to then wake up and do it all
over again. So, you know, it was, you know, when the lights come on, it was kind of sad. So I
realized how, I basically realized that the legacy I was leaving after 10 years, you know, I came to
my senses at 28 years old after a decade, you know, on my tombstone was going to read, you know, I came to my senses at 28 years old after a decade, you know,
on my tombstone was going to read, you know, here lies a man who got people wasted his entire life.
And, you know, I was going to be a 50 year old club owner that looked like I was 150.
And, you know, if I even made it that far. So it was, it was interesting, you know, if I even made it that far. So it was interesting. You know, my parents had laid such a good foundation that I was able to come back very quickly and kind of rediscover, you know, the values and the morality and some of the spirituality that, you know, I had just kind of walked away from, but it hadn't been lost.
And I really wanted to reclaim that through service.
lost. And I really wanted to reclaim that through service. You know, I wasn't interested in becoming a preacher or kind of getting involved in the church again, but I was really interested in
serving the poor. And I was interested in justice and compassion. And, you know, for 10 years,
I had lived just selfishly. I mean, it was all about me. And I thought, what would the exact 180, what would the opposite picture of my life look like? And I thought that would be serving the poor and using whatever skills I could bring to them for good. humanitarian mission for a couple of years. And on that mission, where I had volunteered as a
photojournalist, because I was always a decent writer and a decent photographer, and I had this
massive nightclub list of people that I could communicate to, I learned that the reason people
were getting sick is because they were drinking nasty water. They were drinking from swamps and
ponds and rivers. And here I was with doctors who were treating the symptoms, but the root cause of so
much of the sickness was, was a lack of access to clean water. So that's kind of how I discovered
the cause. And at the time there were a billion people on the planet that didn't have clean water.
And I just, I couldn't believe that. I mean, the water crisis for me and my friends was the fact
that, you know, Voss water costs 10 bucks in our clubs.
I mean, we had never gone thirsty in our lives. We had never had to drink from swamps or ponds or rivers. We didn't know of anyone that died of diarrhea. But yet,
this was a daily reality for a billion people. And I kind of found by what, I guess you could
say, the mission that I would
go after. Interesting. Wow. This is fascinating. And you were there for two years on this kind of
humanitarian service. Yeah. Yeah. It was two eight month tours. And then in between,
so I was living on a hospital ship. It was a fascinating organization that sailed a 522-foot converted yacht up and down the African coast.
And we lived in Liberia.
So we rolled into Liberia right after the 14-year civil war had ended.
And, you know, again, I knew the VIP rooms in Paris and Milan, not a war-torn country with no electricity, no running water,
no sewage, no mail, and 14,000 United Nations troops, barbed wire, choppers, tanks. I mean,
it was a military state. So I was really kind of thrown into the fire very quickly. And I loved it. I mean, I loved the people. I loved
Africa. I loved the doctors who had given up their vacation time. And instead of taking their
families to the Bahamas, they had taken their families to Liberia to use their gifts in the
service of others. So it was such an amazing place and an amazing two years. Wow. What was the most surprising thing or most heartlifting thing that you learned about
humanity during those two eight-month stints?
So there was a man there who was the chief medical officer, and his name was Dr. Gary Parker.
officer and his name was Dr. Gary Parker. And he was the closest thing I've ever had to,
to a mentor. He had, uh, joined for three months and that was 30 years ago. He just never left.
He was a plastic surgeon from California. And, you know, this man had, you know, it was,
he'd been in 23 years, uh, when I joined, so this was seven, eight years ago.
And just the selflessness of the doctors who could be out there making tons of money,
just using their talents for good was really humbling.
On the patient side, it's hard to explain what it was like.
We would rent soccer stadiums to screen patients.
So I remember my third day on the mission, we'd first started in a country called Benin,
West Africa, that a lot of people haven't even heard of. I certainly hadn't at the time.
But we had about 1,500 surgery slots over a four-month period. And I remember turning up to the football stadium, curious to see who would come up, like how many sick people would turn up. And there were over 5,000 people
outside the stadium. And I remember just weeping. I broke down just sobbing, realizing that over
3,500 people were going to be sent home.
And these were people who had come with hope.
They had come hoping that our doctors would help them.
And just we didn't have enough doctors.
We didn't have enough surgery slots.
We didn't have enough ships.
The need was so far greater than we were able to meet.
Wow.
That's crazy. I mean, just to think of how many people are waiting.
I mean, it was a sea of people. And, you know, to give you a picture of Liberia at the time,
after this 14 year civil war, you know, now the story has been Ebola. But at the time,
it was Charles Taylor, you know, he just fled the country and we're trying to put the pieces
back together. But there was one doctor for every
50,000 citizens. Oh my gosh. Here in America, we have a doctor for 180 of us. Wow. So if you got
sick, you were SLO. I think there were two surgeons in the country and nowhere to operate.
Oh my gosh. So the need was just so, so great.
But, you know, I'm kind of forever an optimist,
and I was able to really focus on the 1,500 people that we were able to help.
And it was amazing, Louis.
I mean, you know, blind people.
I remember this one woman named Marguerite,
and she, you know, Liberia is right on the equatorial band,
and she was, you know, could see her entire life. And she, so Liberia's right on the equatorial band.
And she was, could see her entire life.
And in her early 20s, if I remember correctly, she goes blind just with cataracts.
And there's no Ray-Bans, there's no UV protection.
So she can't see her kids.
And five years later, she comes to the screening.
We bring her on the ship.
And I was there.
I would scrub up all the time to document these surgeries.
And I watched her surgery.
And it took like 10 minutes.
You know, a guy just cut a little slit in her eye, you know, tweezers, pop the cataract out, put in the new lens, sewed her up.
And I remember the next day I was there with my camera when they took off the patch and she was able to see because it was a 10 or 15-minute surgery.
And she just went ballistic.
She started screaming, dancing.
Her sister was there.
She tackled her sister.
She tackled the nurse. She grabs me around the waist.
waste. And I mean, it just, I mean, for, for the price of a bottle of absolute vodka in a night club, you know, a woman could get her sight back and see her children. So it was that kind of
place. It was just filled with stories and, and, and you really focused on the people that you
were able to help. How long was she blind for? I think she's blind for five years. Oh my gosh.
And it's crazy. I mean, you know,
these cataracts were just, I mean, you could just see these things. They were so visible.
It's such a simple surgery. That's crazy. Now I've got so many questions I want to ask you just
about this last few things you talked about. First, I want to talk about your parents.
Were your parents supportive for the 10 years that you were basically off
being the most selfish man that you could be?
I would call them patient. Wow. That's incredible. That's a decade of patience. That's a long time.
You know, they just, they would just say that they prayed for me for 10 years to come back,
to come back to the values and the, you know, the morality that, that they had, you know, they'd known me to be one thing. And, you know, I hadn't, I mean, I wasn't terrible to them.
I would kind of brag about my escapades.
But, you know, I would go and see them at holidays.
And, you know, I wasn't kind of estranged.
They just didn't approve of my lifestyle.
Sure, gotcha.
So what do they think of you now that you live a life of full service and giving back?
Well, I mean, they're pretty happy, I think.
My dad got to see me give a speech on Monday night to 1,000 people.
And he got to see me speak to 14,000 people once at a stadium about Charity Water and just was kind of beaming afterwards.
So I think they're proud.
The patience paid off. The patience paid
off. And I think the cool thing for them, and even for me, is that I was able to redeem a lot
of the things that I learned in that decade. I say sometimes that I was telling the wrong story
for 10 years. I was telling the story with my life that if you got past my velvet
rope, if you got in the door with a one-way glass, if you were with the pretty girls, if you spent
three grand on champagne, then, Lewis, your life had meaning. And for the last 10 years,
since I started the volunteer service and then Charity Water eight years ago, it's a story of,
if you live a life of generosity, if you live a life of compassion and empathy, then, you know,
you'll find freedom in service. You'll find freedom in giving. So I'm still a storyteller.
Charity Water has made 400 videos over the last eight years. We're just telling a much more
redemptive story, I think, than the, you know, come get drunk with us story.
Right. Why is service such an important key to fulfillment and happiness and living a great life?
Oh, man. You know, I think the best way I ever heard it put is that there's a real freedom that
comes through service, through others,
you know, that we're sometimes in shackles trying to serve ourselves. Like there is,
you know, there was a point in the nightclub business that was just never enough. There
would never be enough money. There would never be enough girls. There would never be enough parties.
There would never be enough fame or status or, you know, you would never have the most famous
people at the club. And, you know,
this kind of endless pursuit, this insatiable pursuit of self, you know, when that's turned
around, you can celebrate, you know, I guess there's always the Oscar Schindler moment, right?
Where, you know, at the end of his whole life, he's like, well, if I could have saved more people.
Schindler moment, right? Where, you know, at the end of his whole life, he's like, well,
if I could have saved more people. But it's just, it's such a different way of living in service of others. You know, there's a, there's a joy, there's a release, there's a freedom and, and just
something beautiful about being able to use your gifts. And, and I'm not saying that everyone
listening to this show needs to go full on and become a humanitarian and, you know, but, but if
that's, if that's helping out at your local, you know, homeless shelter, if it's cooking meals, if it's going to read to people in an elderly home, if it's mentoring a kid and just being a friend, it's time, it's talent, it's money.
It's a combination of all those things.
It's a combination of all those things.
What if no one has ever been of service really in the past and they think that giving up their time or their money is going to take them away from achieving what they want for themselves?
What do you say to someone like that who's maybe never experienced it or who's never really understood about giving and being of service? Do you feel like they'll ever be fully happy or is it you have to be – basically your foundation has to come from a place of service and giving as part of your daily life in order to be fully happy?
I think so, yeah.
I just don't think you can be – I mean I know some of the most miserable people in the world that are some of the most successful and rich people that I've ever met.
met. So I've kind of seen that play out. And they could be worth billions of dollars and not feel like they're rich enough. They don't even have the time to spend the money that they've made,
but it's that endless pursuit of more. I think service and caring for others is foundational to
being happy and to living a life and leaving a legacy that you could actually be proud of or that your kids or your grandkids could be proud of.
Yeah, I do really believe that.
I think that one of the challenges – so my wife had tried – so she actually volunteered.
She's now my wife.
tried. So she, she actually volunteered. She's now my wife at the time she had volunteered at charity water and I wound up hiring her and then we wound up getting married and she became our
creative director. And we really kind of built the organization together over the last eight years.
But I remember something she said to me, she hit a similar point to mine, you know, minus all the
debauchery and she went to try and, you know, minus all the debauchery. And she went to try and, you know, volunteer
somewhere and it just fell flat. And she was even disenchanted with that process because
I think she was just kind of standing in a soup line and just didn't feel like she was adding
any value. Now, my wife is one of the most genius creatives. She can animate, she can draw,
she can take pictures, she can shoot video, she can edit video, she's a
graphic designer. And, and I think, you know, when she volunteered with us, and she was using those
skills, the things she was uniquely qualified to do, she found the happiness. So I think as,
as I was, I would try to, you know, give people advice, you know,
like figure out your gifts, and then apply those to what you want to give back with.
Exactly.
And, you know, and there's nothing against standing in a line in a soup kitchen.
We've actually done that together and it's been kind of, you know, a rewarding experience as well.
But, you know, if you're, yeah, I would try and find those things that give you life and find a way to contribute.
Maybe you're a photographer and you can go on a
humanitarian mission and help a small organization tell their stories better or create better content
for them. Or maybe you're a writer. I think there's something about using your gifts in the
service of others in a non-generic way, in a way that brings you to life.
I mean, even myself, sometimes I try and give a percentage of my time to mentor others.
And I get approached by a lot of charities that are starting up now.
And there's nothing worse than spending an hour of my time just feeling like I haven't helped anyone.
Because they didn't ask the right questions.
But when I really do feel like I'm able to help something, you want to do three more hours.
Right.
You make an impact.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
So I think it's just trying to find that sweet spot of here are my strengths.
Here's what I can uniquely offer to a local organization, to an international organization.
For some people, it really is money. I mean, we have donors who are out
crushing it, working 60-hour weeks, building their business. And they're like, Scott, I can't come
with you to Africa. I can't go help you consult on any of this, but I can write you a big check.
And maybe at some point in my life, that'll change. But right now, what I have to offer
is I can be really generous with money. Of other people that say, I have no money. I can't even afford to come to your gala. But what I could offer
is to run a fundraising campaign or give up my birthday, or I could volunteer
and, you know, and, and help, um, help you guys stuff envelopes, uh, for tax receipts.
So that's cool. Yeah. And I would also, you know, probably want to include that
find something that you have a deep
emotional connection with as well. You had this connection where you saw people dying because
they didn't have clean water and dealing with lots of medical issues that they didn't need to
be dealing with that we don't have to deal with here in the US and the States. And that's the
reason I joined the advisory board for Pencil Promise because I felt this connection to
education for kids because I didn't feel like it was really challenging for me to learn growing up.
And I had a hard time all through school and I wanted to be a support for kids to have great education.
And I think that's something to take notice of as well is really find something you connect with emotionally that you can really put some energy behind, not just show up at a soup kitchen unless you're really passionate about it. Sure. Yeah. So can you talk about the whole birthday movement that
you created? Yeah. So the, you know, the idea there was giving, you know, when, when we were
building charity water, we didn't want to build charity water for the rich or for the elite.
And, and, you know, I think you hinted earlier at the why.
Some of the viewers might have seen Simon Sinek's very popular TED Talk about just the importance of knowing why you do what you do
and that the great brands, the great organizations, the great companies
are so clear about their why.
They attract people who believe the same thing as them.
For us, the why was actually about giving and generosity and compassion. It was about
reinventing charity. So when I started, I realized that a lot of my friends were disenchanted with
charities. They didn't know where their money was going. They weren't into the poverty porn.
They were being made to feel guilty and kind of being shame marketed
into giving. And I really wanted to change the way people thought about giving, the way they
related to charity. Charity means love. If you go back to the root, it's caritas in the Latin.
It just simply means to love your neighbor. And that's not what it had been to a lot of my
friends. So as we were thinking and building it, you know, we weren't going to kind of go after,
you know, government money, you know, we weren't really going to have a huge foundation approach,
we wanted everyday people to be able to engage and contribute and make a difference in serving
others, you know, with something so basic. So our what was really water, right? Every single person surely can believe in a world where everyone
has clean water. No kid should be drinking dirty water. No woman should be walking eight hours a
day, you know, in the hot sun with 40 pounds of nasty water on her back that she knows is going
to kill her kids of diarrhea. Everybody could stand for clean water.
So the birthday movement, we stumbled into so many things at Charity Water.
We kind of just got lucky by trying a lot of stuff and enough stuck.
And it really started because the only thing I knew how to do to start the organization was to throw a party in a nightclub.
I mean, I knew how to get a bunch of people together and throw a party. So day one, I tried to kind of redeem that experience. And the best party
nightclub promoters have every year is their birthday. Because you get to call in all the
favors. Right. So you know, you kind of like if we're friends, you kind of have to stop by my
show up. Yeah, yeah, gotta show up the birthday party. So so that came. So day one of Charity Water was my birthday party with Open Bar.
And then I just said, all right, guys.
And by the way, everyone has to throw in $20 for clean water, which wound up being $15,000 and enough for a few projects.
Wow.
So on the one-year anniversary, I wanted to kind of mature past the event.
And really, the event didn't scale.
I wanted to kind of mature past the event, and really the event didn't scale.
I guess I could have gotten a venue that held 1,000 people,
and maybe I could have charged $30 or $40 at the door, but it wasn't real impact.
And I thought, you know, I'm too old for this.
What if I asked for my age in dollars?
And I thought that might be the sticky kind of, you know, the marketing message, right? Give me 32 bucks
for my 32nd birthday. And 100% of the money will go directly to help people get clean water.
And in fact, if I reach my goal, I will fly to Kenya, and I will drill the well via satellite.
So you can all see exactly where your money is going into the ground, you can see the community
getting clean water. So I wasn't sure if that would work, but I knew that everybody had 32 bucks they could give to
charity water. You know, even if you came to the club in a taxi and you tip the bartender,
it was going to spend, it was going to cost you 30 bucks on the evening. So I just emailed everyone
I knew. And to my surprise, I raised about $60,000 just online with no cost. Flew out, drilled the well.
People got to see where their money went.
So that was really exciting.
Drilled a couple.
And then this seven-year-old kid in Austin, Texas hears about the idea.
And he starts knocking on doors asking for $7 for his seventh birthday.
So Max Schmidhauser raises $22,000.
Wow.
And then we had an 89-year-old start asking for $89. So Max Schmidhauser raises $22,000.
And then we had an 89-year-old start asking for $89.
Nona Wien, and she writes this beautiful mission statement saying,
I'd like people in Africa to be able to have more birthdays,
realizing that she's double the life expectancy simply because of where she was born than the people in some of these countries where we were, were working and serving. So we realized this is just kind of a, it's a,
it's a beautiful idea. It kind of fights the materialism of the day. You know, Lewis,
you don't need a tie or a belt or an iTunes gift card. I've got enough gifts. You got enough stuff.
You don't, you don't need anything else. And there are a billion people without access to clean
water. So if you could turn your birthday into a redemptive, generous act, a generous moment,
and you could involve the people that love you, your friends and family, and everybody could see
where 100% of the money went, who wouldn't want to give up their birthday? Who would want to donate
a birthday to help others?
So this birthday movement just sort of started to organically grow in 16-year-olds and 9-year-olds and 11-year-olds and 53-year-olds.
And people all over the world started giving up their birthdays in pounds and euros and dollars and helped a lot of people through that.
How much bills a well right now?
So it's about $10,000 to drill a well. Charity Water now works in 22 different countries.
So we're solution agnostic. So we fund about seven different water technologies from a $65 bio sand filter to a quarter of a million dollar pipe system that would serve seven villages
through a network of pipes and tap stands. We've done rainwater harvesting systems,
carbon filters, pond filters, shallow wells, deep wells, tap stands. So it's a little hard.
There are $65 solutions, a quarter of a million dollar solution, there are $18,000 wells,
there are $6,000 wells. There are $6,000 wells.
But $10,000 is kind of that average.
Average.
Gotcha.
Community.
Interesting.
And how much have you guys raised since the very first party?
We have raised about $165 million.
Oh, my gosh.
That's incredible.
Congrats.
Yeah.
And by the end of this year, we'll have funded enough water projects for 5 million people.
Oh, my gosh.
So this year has been a big year.
We'll do a million people this year, which is about 2,700 people every day of the year that got clean water.
So how many birthdays do you think you've created by providing clean water from the beginning?
I think about 35,000 people have given up their birthday.
Sorry, let me reframe it.
How many birthdays have you created because of this clean water? Oh, have clean water? Oh, I didn't get it. I don't know. That's a wonderful thing to
think about. Dirty water is one of the leading causes of death under five, which is just crazy.
It's diarrhea. Kids simply die of diarrhea. They drink bad water, they get dehydrated,
they drink more bad water, and they die of dehydration from the diarrhea.
So yeah, I think we've certainly saved tens of thousands of lives and improved dramatically the lives of 5 million people.
Was Schindler's List a big impact on your life, that movie?
You know, that movie?
That last moment, I think, was kind of profound. I don't want
to feel like that. I don't want to go out like that.
That was just so sad
to see someone that had done so much
and had fought so hard
kind of look back on
from what I remember of it, look back on the life
and legacy and say, I didn't do enough.
So I think that warning or that picture of Oscar at the end is, yeah, it's like a warning
to me.
I don't want to end and look back and celebrate the wins and celebrate the people we were
able to help and celebrate the generous people here who gave of their time and their talent
and their money to serve others. Um, and if it's, you know, 10 million people with clean water or a hundred
million people or, you know, or 350 million people that, that we've been able to get clean water,
you know, I want to be, I want to feel really proud about the way that we did it,
about the process and the integrity that we had, you know, in the way we went about.
Yeah. Cause a hundred percent of people's donations goes towards funding a well.
Is that right?
Yeah, and let me tell you, it's not easy.
Well, you told me a story yesterday
when we were talking about
how you almost had to shut down the whole charity
because you didn't have funding to support the staff, right?
Yeah, so the idea at the beginning was
the public doesn't trust charities
and they feel often like charities are black holes and they don't, you know, they feel often like charities
are black holes and they don't know how much of their money actually reaches the people and
the impact it has. So I thought one way to get people who may be disenchanted around giving
around charity to get engaged would be to promise them that we would never step on their money,
that every single penny would go directly to build water projects. And then because we didn't step on the money, we could show them their water projects. We could say,
you know, this is your well that you built and here are the photos and the GPS of it.
So to do that, we had to go find other people to pay for overhead, which is a lot less
attractive than paying for a well. You know, who wants to pay for insurance and office and electricity and phone bills and flights and staff salaries?
And I was just trying to scrap together two – basically trying to build two organizations in perfect balance from a friend's couch with absolutely no money at the beginning.
One of the hardest things I've ever done in my life.
And about a year and a half in,
we had raised a couple million dollars for water projects. So the 100% model was really working.
But we were about to run out of funding and about to be unable to make payroll. And it's
interesting, the advice I got at that moment, some friends were saying, dude, you got tons of money.
Just borrow from it, pay your staff and pay it back later. Nobody
will know. Money's fungible. You can't let something as beautiful as charity water go
bankrupt just because of your principles. And I remember being so offended by that and saying,
I will shut this thing down, grant out all the public's money for the water projects and then
do a reboot and be like every other charity in the world. But I wouldn't touch a penny from that bank account. And at that moment, a stranger walked
into the office, spent about two hours with him, and he wound up wiring a million dollars in his
staff bank account, which was over a year's worth of funding and runway. And as I've had time to reflect on that,
I should say that couple has actually donated $10 million
towards the overhead since over the last seven years.
So they continue to stay with the organization as huge patrons.
But I think at that moment, it was the belief in the mottos,
the belief in me as much as the money and just the runway. And he basically
said with that, look, I like this model. I like the clarity of it. I don't trust charities either.
You just need more time. Here's one person who believes in overhead. Go find 100 more of me.
And that's the model today. There are 104 individuals who cover the entire overhead of Charity Water, 70 staff, flights around to 22
countries, the office, you name it. And that's made it possible for 500,000 people to give where
100% of their money goes to the field. Amazing. Amazing. And I'm curious, what was your way of
being in that meeting that was so inspiring and enrolling that they would want to support you?
Obviously, you're doing something positive and doing a great cause, but you had to have been so confident and powerful in your way of being that was unshakable.
What was that like?
Lewis, it might have been the opposite.
From what I remember about it, I think I was just very transparent. I think I was passionate about the idea, but also not trying to pretend that we weren't in trouble.
I don't think I put the face on and was like, we're crushing it, we're crushing it.
But really, we're about to run out of money.
But you actually became vulnerable is what you were doing.
I think so.
From what I remember of that was, yeah, we're crushing it.
This idea is working.
It is, you know, people are responding and giving money to clean water.
But I can't seem to figure out this other thing.
You know, we're not crushing it at all on the other bank.
Right.
And I really need some help.
I have not discovered it.
So I think it was probably a mix of vision and vulnerability or just honesty. What was funny too about that was
I thought he didn't like me at all. He turned out just to be British. I joke about later.
This is an amazing family that's become dear friends and has now traveled to five different
countries, six different countries around the world. But I didn't think the meeting had gone well. Interesting. And then they just came back the next day or later that
day and gave you a note? No, he wired it a couple days later. He sent me an email. He'd gotten the
instructions of our bank account from someone at the office. Shut up. So you didn't even know he
was doing it? No, no. I mean, I had been praying to God. I'm like, please, please, you know, I don't want to shut this down.
And I remember praying with very little faith.
I mean, I really, I thought it was over.
And I got his email at 1230 a.m. in the morning.
I was sitting in bed on the laptop.
And it was like a short email.
Scott, great meeting you.
I hope it's okay.
I wired a million dollars.
I hope it's okay. Yeah, keep million dollars. I hope it's okay.
Yeah, keep on rocking.
I remember you did.
Oh, my gosh.
I remember logging on to the bank account, and there it was.
1,000,000.
I just, dude, I lost it.
I started sobbing.
Oh, my gosh.
I woke up my nine staff.
The calls started going out until 2.30 in the morning.
And it was such a
game changer. You know, I'm on a charity salary, but I do have a dream at some point of being able
to make a million dollar gift, you know, to another organization somehow that would be as
transformative. You know, and it's funny, I just saw him yesterday. He was in town a couple days ago.
I was saying, we're now in the top 300 charities of America just from size out of 1.2 million charities.
I'm like, man, you know, you've really helped kind of build, you know,
build something that a lot of people have been involved in and is really making a difference.
So, yeah, I hope to be able to return the favor at some point, not just with my time or mentorship, but, you know, by making a substantial gift at some point.
Sure. Wow. Now, with all of the, let's say,
issues here in the States locally and in New York City, which is where I believe you live right now,
do you ever get flack for saying, well, why are you going outside of the country when there's so
much that we could still be doing to work here for all the issues that we currently have?
Only from people who aren't doing anything. Right. You know, I mean, every once in a while,
I get the, you know, the person who comes up, you know, after conferences says, well,
what about the people, you know, in Appalachia that don't have clean water? I'm like, great,
what are you doing about it? Right. You know, there, I think specifically to water, you know,
officially the United States of America has 100% water coverage.
The countries we're working in might have 34% coverage.
And there are some pockets of people here where there's water scarcity.
But it looks more like you jump into your Toyota Camry, you drive down to the 7-Eleven, you fill up clean water in your buckets and you take it home because some mining
company has contaminated it. You're not walking five hours to a swamp and drinking dirty water
that's killing you and your family. So it's just, there's such a kind of, there's such a chasm
between the severity of those issues here. And not to say they're not important for those people at all.
We've just chosen to work at the very bottom of the pyramid. So we're after the 100 million
poorest people, you know, if you look at the water crisis. And it's just so hard to compare.
I mean, I was living in a village earlier this year in Ethiopia.
I spent a week hiking nine hours into a village.
And, you know, the community had to walk very far for water.
And there was a 13-year-old girl in the village who was walking eight hours a day.
After one walk one day, she breaks her clay pot.
She falls and she breaks her clay pot and all of the water that she has just fetched
after an entire day's walk spills out. And instead of going back to the waterhole,
she hangs herself from a tree, you know, throws a noose around her neck. 13 year old girl
in a village called Meda. So, you know, it's hard to, we don't get many objectors, you know, to trying to help people,
you know, living in those such extreme environments. You know, I encourage people,
if they're interested in conservation, go and find a great conservation charity and support
them. I mean, not everyone needs to support charity water. The typical critic is doing
nothing. They're giving to nothing. They're
volunteering to nothing. And even my wife and I, we give significantly, even on our
nonprofit salaries to charity water. We're big supporters of our own cause. But we'll give to
30 other things this year, small amounts, but we love living vicariously through other people doing great work.
You know, I give to Pencils of Promise as well. We give to, you know, people working on orphanages,
we give to a local homeless shelter in Tribeca, New York. So a bunch of different things with your time and with your money. It's typically the main objectors, you know, aren't doing much.
Right, exactly. A couple questions left for you, Scott.
I think you mentioned that when you started,
there was a billion people that didn't have clean water
or somewhere around a billion.
Is that right?
Yep, and the problem is getting better.
The latest data, if you'd asked me a year ago,
I would have said 780 million.
The latest data is 748 million.
So it's kind of beautiful to be a part of a problem
that is being solved around the world. So, you know, Charity Water is, is kind of almost 5 million
now of that. And, and our, you know, we're going after a hundred million people. You know, I think
that would be amazing to make that our legacy, a hundred million of, of the world's kind of,
to make that our legacy. 100 million of the world's kind of, you know, the poorest rural.
What we're seeing is the governments are tackling the urban areas and the peri-urban areas.
And the last mile, you know, the farmers who are walking eight hours a day are kind of the last to get served. So we're starting at the bottom. We're seeing, you know, governments kind of come at the
top and hopefully we meet closer towards the middle. So it is good
news when it comes to the problem being solved. And honestly, there's a lot of good news. I mean,
there's great news in the world of HIV AIDS. There's great news in the world of malaria.
I think sometimes there's this sense that, oh my gosh, Africa is just a black hole and it just
keeps getting worse. Oh, people, this is dead aid and people have been doing this. No, it's actually getting a lot better. You know, Bill Gates has written some really well thought out and well researched, you know, data to try and debunk some of those myths. I think, you know, if people can spread that story that, you know, that it's a black hole and the poor are getting poorer, that relieves them of their excuse to give. And it's just not true.
and the poor are getting poorer, that relieves them of their excuse to give.
And it's just not true.
It's actually getting better.
The money is helping.
The organization is getting smarter about the way that they provide services and implement.
The glass is really half full.
That's cool.
When do you want to achieve this vision buy of 100 million people?
Well, I'd love to do it over 10 years, over the
next 10 years. So we're 5% of the way there. So we would definitely need a lot more birthdays.
Right. But here's a crazy thing. The average birthday campaign for Charity Water raises $1,000.
So think about a million people donating their birthdays. That would be a billion dollars for
clean water. So just an idea like that, if we could actually get that
out there into the masses. And we're hampered with an ad budget of zero as a nonprofit. But
that's why we turn up and we do this kind of stuff. And I speak 100 times a year. And we're
just really trying to put these ideas out there and let people take a hold of them and make them their own.
Mad Fientist Yeah.
Well, how can someone sign up to donate their birthday, you know, next birthday?
What can they do?
Jared Ranere Yeah.
And I know you've helped build a well.
There's – yeah, you go to charitywater.org slash birthdays and we just have a little
simple pledge form.
And if your birthday is a year from now, we remind you a few weeks before the birthday
and it's pretty simple. I've done five or six birthdays now. We just did our baby's birthday.
It just works. People love it. It's cool. Yeah. The average, again, the average person raises
$1,000 from 15 of their friends and family. And it's just, it's kind of a unique idea. And,
you know, nobody wants to get you a tie or a belt or an Amazon gift card anyway.
Right, right.
They would much rather –
And they feel good about giving as well.
They do.
They do.
And it's fun also to be able to see actually that impact and see where the money went.
So, yeah, charitywater.org slash birthdays.
And it's a great experience.
I've eaten my own dog food five or six years in a row now.
Yeah, and if you don't want to necessarily donate your whole birthday, if you still want your
gifts, you can go to charitywater.org and just make a donation, right?
And 100% of it goes to something.
That's right, Lois.
Or just learn.
You know, you could go and learn about the water crisis and watch some of the videos
and just share the story with someone else.
I like that.
A couple questions left for you, Scott.
I want to know what you're most grateful for recently. just share the story with someone else. I like that. A couple questions left for you, Scott.
I want to know what you're most grateful for recently.
Well, I just became a dad,
so I am incredibly grateful for this little drooling bundle of joy in my life now
who will not sleep more than a couple hours at a time.
But my wife and I just had our first child,
little boy.
His name is Jackson.
And it's just amazing.
That's cool.
Yeah, so grateful for the opportunity to be a father.
It's a game changer.
Yeah, I was looking at your Instagram photos earlier, and I see you in bed with the little guy just rubbing your nose with his fist or something.
It's really cute.
Yeah, he's the best. He's the best. I might have
given him a little, rolled his fingers in the ball.
Of course. That's funny.
So what is it you want your epitaph to say now when it's all
said and done? You know, one of my favorite verses in the Bible is
in the New Testament, uh, is in the new
Testament, a book called James. And it says true religion is to look after widows and orphans
and to keep yourself from being polluted. So, uh, something around that, you know,
like lived a life of, of integrity and was a great husband and was a great dad and a great friend
and, you know, made decisions, you know, that were grounded in
integrity and honesty and, you know, lived a generous life. Um, and then, you know, helped a
lot of people. So I think, um, yeah, it's, it's something along those lines, you know, and, and,
and from, from such a contrast to what I was, you know, I was kind of, I did nothing for others and
I was, you know, I was a polluter. I was kind of an active polluter. Sure. Sure. That's cool. I like that.
I'll need to make that a little briefer.
Well, before I ask you the final question, I want to acknowledge you, Scott, for
your awareness. You created such awareness, inner awareness with yourself to recognize that, hey,
this actually
isn't what is serving me or serving anyone else, what you were doing for the decade that you were
doing it. And I want to acknowledge you for your commitment over the last decade to stay in the
fire and keep going under extreme, you know, adversity, and many challenges and having to come up with a whole new model for charities
and not have any money on your own to make it happen. And for all the people's lives that
you're making a difference in, it's inspiring, it's incredible. And I'm so blessed and honored
to know that you are living in our world during this time and making an impact. So I want to
acknowledge you for your effort and your commitment and dedication to service.
Well, thank you so much, man. That's so kind.
Yeah. And hopefully we can meet up one day soon and I'll give you a big hug. But in the meantime,
I want to ask you the final question, which is what I ask everyone. And it is,
what's your definition of greatness?
Oh, man. I think it's a life lived with integrity and generosity. I love it. Scott
Harrison, you are a gift to the world. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing your message.
Dude, thanks so much for having me and thanks for all you have done for water and education. And
I know a bunch of other stuff you've supported. My pleasure, man. Thank you.
See ya.
you. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode with Scott. Again, very inspiring individual and story for me to connect with. And hopefully you gained a lot of wisdom and insights from his storytelling
and you can tap into what these stories mean for you. And I want you to take a look at your life.
You know, we're going into the new year.
I want you to take a look at your life and ask yourself the question, am I living the
life that I really want to live?
Is what I'm doing meaningful and does it have purpose?
Am I living to make money and have fun?
Or am I living to have it all and leave an impact?
I just want you guys to think about it.
There's no right or wrong answer.
I just want you to think about it and see how this feels to you when you answer the question.
And start writing down some goals for yourself for this year.
Really start writing down, you know, how do I want my life to look like?
Just write it out and think about what do I want my days to feel like? Who do I want to
be spending time with? How do I want to make an impact? What are the things I want to be doing?
Just write it out and see what comes up for you. There's no right or wrong answer here either. It's
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