The School of Greatness - 370 Tai Lopez On How Being a Millionaire Affects Your Overall Happiness

Episode Date: August 22, 2016

"Don't completely live for others and don't completely live for yourself." - Tai Lopez If you enjoyed this episode, check out show notes, video, and more at http://lewishowes.com/370

This is episode number 370 with the mysterious Tai Lopez. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. Welcome everyone to a special edition of the School of Greatness where we interview some

of the top business minds, world-class athletes, and thought leaders in the world to reveal to you how to be great. And my intention behind this entire podcast was to learn the strategies and the secrets and the stories from all these incredible people about how they've created incredible results in their life, all walks of life, all walks of people, how they've gotten to the top in their industry and in their area. And today I'm interviewing a guy named Ty Lopez. Now, many of you reach out to me and ask me about different people in the industry and in their area. And today I'm interviewing a guy named Ty Lopez. Now many of you reach out to me and ask me about different people in the industry, in the space often.

And I'm always asked about, do I know these people? What do I think about them? What have I learned from them, et cetera, et cetera. And Ty Lopez is a guy, his name that comes up often. And a lot of my audience, a lot of you guys say that you don't resonate well with him, that you're not connected to him or aligned to his message or his way of marketing, his style. He lives in an 18-bedroom mansion here in Beverly Hills. He's always got models at his house. He's got a lot of really nice, luxurious cars that he shows off a lot.

And to be honest, I wanted to know more about why he does the things he does as well. So many of you fielded me questions. I said, Ty, I want to bring you on. I'm doing a book right now about masculinity. There's different masks that we wear as men. And I want to learn about yours or if you have any or what that looks like. And for those that don't know who Ty is, his bio, I'll read it really quick. He's an investor, a partner, or an advisor to over 20 multi-million dollar businesses. And through his extremely popular book club that I've been on and podcast, Ty shares advice on how to achieve health, wealth, love, and happiness with 1.4 million people in over 40 countries. He's appeared on various TV and radio shows, spoke at top global universities like the London Business School and University of Southern California.

And he's got a huge YouTube channel called The Grand Theory of Everything. It gets tons of views, tons of subscribers. And some of the things we cover are what are the best and hardest parts about Ty's luxurious lifestyle that he portrays and put out to the world. Also, why Ty won't say how old he is. I asked Ty probably like five times during this interview how old he was. And he won't reveal his age. And he tells me why he won't do that as well. What it is about age and gender that tend to hold people back in general.

And why they're so held back by how young or how old they are. Why we trust someone we like more than someone we don't like, and why this can be bad, and Ty's theory of motivation. Now, I have to be honest with you guys about something. I feel like I failed you in some way in this interview. I pride myself in really getting people to open up and really getting people to connect with me and share their secrets, their strategies, their stories. And I feel like Ty was more reserved.

He wasn't willing to open up. Now, he said at the end of the interview that he shared more in this than he has in any other interview that he's done or any video he's done on his own. His team members came up to me and said, wow, I've been working with Ty for two years and I didn't hear half of those things. So he was shocked. His team was a little bit shocked

of what they learned about him, but I felt like there was a lot of reservation still. So maybe I'll be able to get him back on another interview and really get him to reveal all the things I want to hear about because that's the things that you guys were asking me about to ask him. So I feel like I failed you in a sense that I didn't get the full answer that I wanted to be able to be in service to you. But I think there's a lot of incredible information through this interview and you're going to get to see how

Ty thinks, why he does what he does. He's built an incredible financial empire. You'll learn about why he's so committed to making more money, if there's a number that Ty will ever be satisfied with, and what his main reason for portraying and pushing the lifestyle, the models, the cars, and the books that he has, because the books and the reading are actually the most important thing for him. So let me know what you guys think. I want to hear what you guys think over on Twitter at Lewis Howes at Ty Lopez. Let me know and share with me and Ty what you guys think. Also, make

sure to check out lewishowes.com slash 370 to watch the full video interview. I am fascinated by body language, by how someone looks, by the way someone looks at people, by the way people respond to certain questions. So you'll ask me digging in deeper with a certain question, and you'll see Ty's response. I'm curious to hear what your thoughts are and what your feedback is on his responses, both verbally, both with eye contact and with body language, because we learned the most from body language. So check it out lewishouse.com slash 370. Let me know what you guys think. And are there any other questions you'd like me to ask him for a follow

up interview, where if you could know the answer, and we could get him to answer it? Would you be even more interested? So let me know. Also, you can connect with Ty and learn about all the stuff that he does at lewishouse.com slash 370. So share with your friends right now. Let me know what you think on Twitter or in the comments below on the show notes. And without further ado, let me introduce to you the one, the only, Ty Lopez. Welcome, everyone, to the School of Grinning podcast. Very excited for our guest today, Ty Lopez.

Thanks for having me, man. In your house. Good to see you, man. I'm excited about this and I want to read your bio really quickly for those who don't know who you are. Ty Lopez is an investor, partner, or advisor to over 20 multi-million dollar businesses through his popular book club, which I was on. Thanks for having me on.

And podcast. Ty shares advice on how to achieve health, wealth, love, and happiness with over 1.4 million people in 40 countries, which I'm sure is bigger now since this bio was posted online. He's appeared on various. My lawyer says to do it understated. Right. There you go. There we go.

He has appeared in various TV and radio shows, spoke at top global universities like the London Business School and the University of Southern California, and created one of the top downloaded podcasts and YouTube channels, The Grand Theory of Everything. So, again, thanks for coming on, man. Thanks, man. And there's, you know, we've known each other for a few years, and there's been, we kind of run in similar circles, similar spaces.

I live not even a half a mile away from you, a few blocks down. We're at your place here in Beverly Hills. And a lot of people ask me to interview you because they have a misconception about you. Yes. And so I think a lot of people have a negative misconception about you. So I want to set the record straight to let people know who you are and who you really are. And so I'm curious, the first question is how would you describe yourself if someone said, who are you? How would I describe? I mean, I think that, um,

I am a curious person that likes to try lots of stuff. And if I look back at my life, I think it's easy to lose objectivity when you try to figure out your own life. But if I look objectively at my life, just year to year, I'm kind of like a mad scientist. And so, you know, I've lived with the Amish for two years. I've been to 40 or 50 countries. I've been in finance. I worked for GE Capital. It was the biggest company in the world at the time. I've been an entrepreneur. I've lived in a mobile home. I've lived in Beverly Hills. And so for me, I think that I'm more interested in trying stuff than any one thing in and of itself. So it's like a lot of people know me for stuff like Lamborghinis and Ferraris and stuff like that. But that's because that's catchy.

So people catch that part of me. I like books. Sometimes people latch on to that part of me. I like books. Sometimes people latch onto that part of me. So it's interesting in terms of positive or negative people. That bio should definitely be updated. Google says I have between 100 and 200 million people who follow my stuff, watch my stuff in a year. And anytime you get that much volume, it's been very interesting, mad scientist to see the variability of reaction. So I remember when I was about 20, I read an article. And this is

somewhat related to this book that I know you're working on, on the masks that people wear. So these scientists in National Geographic said, in India, you have massive disparities between the poor and the rich. I mean, you're talking people who make eight bucks a month and people who are billionaires. We have that somewhat in America, but you don't have anybody in America that's, they have 40 million starving to death people in India. And they said, how does that happen? Like, how do those people who live near a billionaire not just go knock the door down and take food? And they said, our brain has developed mechanisms of coping with other people's success. And I've seen it in my own brain when I see people more successful than me.

I can't remember. I wish I could find the article, but like I said, when I was like 20. One of the reactions is people think that the person got lucky. This is one common reaction. The other one is that the person inherited it. The other one is that they stole it. And I forget what the fourth one. And only the fifth one is thinking, wow,

that maybe that person has something I can learn from. That's how they got successful. So only about 20% of the population in my mind, um, doesn't suffer from delusion. And you call it, you know, you were telling me, um, on how men have masks. And I think we all have that. I've always called it delusion. And I think there's a lot of delusion about anybody who gets a lot of following, like the Kardashians. I remember, boy, I was at the Laker game a couple years ago when they were hated.

And Justin Bieber, too. He had the most disliked video. And people hated them. And now they are loved. And, but they're the same people. So this mis, this, this delusional kind of perception, um, is what messes us up. And I think if you can really see clearly, and this is maybe why I'm a mad scientist. I want to see clearly. I've heard people say, money doesn't make you happy. So I lived with the Amish for two and a half years.

When was this? That was when I was about 23, 24. How old are you now? That's something my publicist said I should never say. Why would not? I don't know. Maybe it's one of my masks. What is it about age? She says, it's Hollywood. Never say your age. Why is it you, I don't know. Maybe it's one of my masks. What is it about age? She says, this is Hollywood. Never say your age. Why, why is it? You think, uh, I don't know. I

think that, you know, I think that, uh, in business. So I think in business you want to be super honest, but at some things you want to be closed. Why? You know, there, the art of war, But at some things, you want to be closed. Why? You know, the art of war, the old Chinese book on strategy, or the newer one by, what's his name? What's the guy everybody loves that wrote this book? Robert Greene. Robert Greene, yeah.

I think there's a lot of bad people out there, and each person in life will have to cope with people. And when I say bad, a better way to say it is people who don't have your interests at heart. And so sometimes when you give too much information, people who don't have your best interests at heart will use that against you. Now, age is, yeah, it's a subjective thing. So I think that when the mask, when I think about mask and whether I should have some, I also think it masks, it depends who you're with. Okay.

So it's kind of like you could think of a common sense. If you are walking the streets and somebody says, what's your ATM pin code? You're going to want to keep a mask up. You're going to be like, ah. Absolutely. keep a mask up. You're going to be like, ah, if your CPA says, you know, or your mother says, yo, I need to get some money. What's your pin code. You're going to treat them differently. So I think a lot of the masks we deal with come from us trying to estimate how this person does or doesn't have our best interests at heart. So there's certain things like information,

like there's people that think I rent my cars or that was a big conspiracy theory. When it first came out, a guy saw when I first got the Lamborghini, it had a little piece of plastic key. So the guy, he said, that's a rental, which is not true at all. And for years I've been like, should I release the title to the car? Because if you release the title, it shows the date I had the car. And I think this month I'm going to release it. So I've been, I've had the mask up that, you know what? Do I want to live a life where just because somebody says I rent a car, I have to prove it? Because sometimes unmasking yourself is actually ego.

What do you mean by that? Somebody, if I come up to you and I go, if somebody comes up to you on the street and says, Lewis, I don't think you're a successful business guy. Show me your bank account. Well, and then some people will go, oh, yeah, let me show you my ATM statement. Look, I got this many millions. That can be a form of ego too. Whereas my first mentors, a lot of the guys I learned from, guys like Joel Salatin,

if somebody said to him, I don't think you have much money, Joel would be like, okay, great. I didn't make my money to try to impress you. He'd just go on. He'd just keep walking by that guy. So I think that... So how old are you then? I always say I'm a vampire, 500. Okay. So why do you have a hesitation around age though i'm just curious again not right or wrong i'm just curious you know what i i don't know it's always been open about mine no age it's not even age it's like i always think i'm gonna give away the most information that can help people so people ask me why would the age hurt people? Well, I, I'll give you an example in general. Pete, one of the most Googled things around my name is what my net worth is. I saw,

there's an article that says something about my net worth. It's not accurate at all. Somebody just wrote something. And I always think, will that help people if I disclose what it is? And I don't want to be perceived as, I'm not a Warren Buffett. I'm not a billionaire person. So I don't divulge that because I don't think it would help anything. Same with the Lamborghini. I didn't think it would help. In fact, the way I figured it is by not sharing whether the Lamborghini was rented or not,

all the suspicious people won't follow me, and I don't like them to start with. But why show the Lamborghini in the first place if it's not even important to show it? Because the Lamborghini was part of my life, and it was a real thing, and it was something I bought before I even ever posted videos on YouTube. thing and it was something I bought before I even ever posted videos on YouTube. And so I do think, so, you know, going to where you get negative, my biggest negative. So what's around the age, what'd be negative around the age? Well, all your personal stuff. I mean, people want to know income. They want to know because they want to size you up. So people want to go, okay, that guy's that age. I feel like I'm behind.

I've just found that a level of secrecy around yourself sometimes is okay, and sometimes it isn't. And I think you have to be wise about that, what that is. And everybody draws a line differently. Like I'm sure there's things you divulge that I wouldn't divulge, but probably vice versa too. Right, right, right. You know? Okay.

Well, maybe you'll tell me behind closed doors. Maybe they'll come behind. It's actually not that big of a deal. I guess I'm just more curious. I figure it's an innocuous thing. And all the innocuous things you should keep secret. That's what I always feel. That's fine. I guess I'm just curious because I figure it's an innocuous thing. And all the innocuous things you should keep secret. That's what I always feel. That's fine.

I guess I'm just curious because I wonder what's the reason behind it. I think telling your age can inspire a lot of people. If you're younger than people, think like, hey, look what I've created with my age. Or look, you can still create something. Okay, so what you're saying is precisely what I'm trying to avoid. I have a huge amount of following of people that are under 25. And a lot of them go, Ty, what's your advice to an 18-year-old? Well, here's my advice to an 18-year-old.

And the same thing with women. People go, like, if we could hide our gender, I think we'd help more people. Because what happens is women will see a successful guy and go, well, I can't do that because he's a guy. Well, age and gender hold most people back. When people are 14, I think when you're 8, here's how the economy works. Most things we buy now are e-commerce related, meaning we don't see the seller. Therefore, it's the best time ever for minorities, for women, for 14-year-olds, for 90-year-olds. You add value to the world and create a product that's high quality in the value

chain and don't think about your age. So my advice to an 18-year-old entrepreneur who's a female and black is the same advice to a 50-year-old who's a white guy. It doesn't matter. What you should be focused on is how can you create high quality products and market them persuasively. I agree. It doesn't matter what age you are, race you are. Yes. But isn't it more inspiring to reveal who you are? But I don't want people to be inspired by that. I want people to be inspired. Well, I think for me, I want people to be inspired around accuracy. So what I look for in people, and there's a human bias, there's these 25 cognitive psychological biases that cause humans to make mistakes. There's all kinds of association bias, availability, Kantian fairness, all these highfalutin scientific words.

Kantian fairness, all these highfalutin scientific words. Well, one of these cognitive biases is called liking or disliking bias. So what it means is if somebody we like, Oprah Winfrey, says five plus five is 11, we're more likely to go, maybe it is 11. And if Adolf Hitler, somebody we hate, says five plus five is 10, we're more likely to go, hmm, he's probably wrong. Well, this is a flaw in the brain. You should hate what Hitler did and you should love Oprah. But you should value each point that comes out of somebody's mouth, especially if you're looking up to them.

Go, is it accurate? So if I say to you, hey, Lewis, this is how I think you should do Instagram marketing. If you then go, how old are you? See, that's a mistake. I learned how to, I have a pretty engaged Twitter. Some person a few years ago DM'd me and said, Hey man, I'm the king of Twitter. I'll show you how to do it. I was like, true. Tell me I'm open to experiment. He told me, you know, post seven times a day. Here's the times that I'd have a lot. Sure enough, that shit worked. Well, lo and behold, this kid turned out later to be 14. And I'm glad that wasn't the opening conversation because I might have been biased and go, what's this 14-year-old saying? Results don't lie. Exactly. It doesn't matter how old

you are. That's right. And I tell people that if they like me or dislike me, because some people, it's actually a negative media. It depends. About 99% of people love my stuff. I see. I get tens of thousands of testimonials. It's just negative people will write more. Sure. And so what happens is, um, I get people who like me too much to the point where I feel like they're no longer judging the quality of my content. They're like, if Ty says it's as good, I don't want to be that guy. I'm not a cult leader. And then I get other people who will see a video and go automatically go, this guy's an idiot. Well, I'm not an idiot. I can tell you that. And so even if somebody hates somebody's style, I look around at the plethora

of mentors available to us now, whether it's YouTube, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates. I listened to one person a day. I was listening to Kevin Systrom today, who started Instagram, made a billion bucks in a couple of years. I'm like a gold miner. And I'm looking through there, and every person just has to give me one nugget. Whether I like Kevin Systrom's app or his value or how he talks, I don't care. You get value from everyone. Yeah. But not everything people say is valuable, so you've got to become a filter. What drives you right now to do what you're doing

and to create so much and to grow what you've been growing? What's your driving force? You know, I think it's part adventure. I have this thing that there's the four Ms of motivation, what motivate us. I actually have all these cool mentor guys that I now have like built this advisory board. So I try to do one phone call a day with somebody really smart,

whether it's an author or PhD or, and there's a guy who is a very famous psychologist and he wrote a book. And I said, I got this theory of motivation. He's like a Wharton professor. And he listened to it and he was like, I think that's right. I think that's about right. He had a few changes. And it's the four Ms. So you have material things, mating.

Mating. Mating, which would come like human relationships. The third one would be you have mastery, which is like status. And the last one is movement or momentum, freedom. And so I think every person you meet, for the most part, if they're normal, sane humans, is going to be motivated around that hierarchy. And some people, though, some things are more important. Like Warren Buffett, he said from seven years old, he knew he wanted to be wealthy. So this is a materialistically driven guy, but he can help the world.

I think my order, you got to know your order. I think I'm most driven by movement freedom. Like I became an entrepreneur because I didn't like a nine to five job. You know, I did it. I tried it. It wasn't for me. How old were you when you became an entrepreneur? All around 19. 19. I didn't like a nine to five job. You know, I did it. I tried it. It wasn't for me.

How old were you when you became an entrepreneur? Oh, around 19. 19. And I around. How many years ago was that? What was that, last year? When I was 20, I then was an entrepreneur. And then I did a little bit of company work at the same time I was an entrepreneur.

Didn't like it. Same with going to college. So I think that's my first one. And then each person's different. And that's one thing where you get people that don't like each other. It's a huge mistake. I see people, and you see this a lot, people go, well, I'm not going to list this person. I don't think they have my values. Well, all humans have, if they're not criminals, you probably share the same values just in different priority order. Hugh Hefner. This is a man driven by, let's say, mating. We could say Hugh Hefner.

He liked women. A lot of people, if you bring up the name Hugh Hefner, a lot of people will write him off. Well, he's a freaking genius. I try to do like once a week I'll study one person that's well known. I mean, he has an IQ equal to Bill Gates. He's a freaking genius. I try to do like once a week I'll study one person that's well known. I mean, he has an IQ equal to Bill Gates. He's a genius guy. And if you look at his life, you know, he's 28 years old. He was in a marriage that was failing.

He was at a bridge and he said, is this it? Is this all my life? I hate my life. And about a month later he launched Playboy and it became, you know, it was instant hit. And he went on to doing all kinds of stuff. I mean, he was the first real figure in America that was accepting black people in. I mean, he was interviewing Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. When these people were, I don't know if it was Martin Luther King Jr., but they were getting shot.

I mean, they ended up getting shot. I don't know if it was Martin Luther King Jr., but they were getting shot. I mean, they ended up getting shot. And he, so we, one of my, there's a genius guy, speaking of secretive, I know a few entrepreneurs. In fact, I know about three of them that make the most money, and they are so secretive guys. And I get to have dinner with them once in a while.

And I was in New York, and I had dinner with this guy, and he said, just remember, Ty, most people can only hold one thought in their head at the same time. So it used to be Kim Kardashian, Kardashians, idiots. Now, Kylie Jenner, this month on her birthday, said, I'm selling a lipstick kit. 150 bucks for the kit. Only 300,000. What'd she sell out in one hour? 30 million bucks. She's 18.

She's making, she's not an idiot. So now all of a sudden the mind, so now people love the Kardashians. Justin Bieber, there was a time, douchey kid, hate. And so I think that when I think about my motivations and when I see people trying to figure out my motivations, my motivations and when i see people trying to figure out my motivations most people want it to just be one motivator humans are complicated i'm complicated the smarter you are at some level as a species you can be more complicated you know earthworms they ain't that complicated dogs a little more complicated we have dogs you can have a dog with a little more complicated personality sure well dogs have about a 40 to 50 IQ. Humans have 100 to 200 IQ.

And that's exponential curve, which means we're 100 times more complicated. By the way, which speaks to why I think we have masks. That's a whole other. What would you say are your top priorities in life right now? Priorities? I mean, I try to keep it simple in my mind. I call the four pillars of the good life, health, wealth, love, and happiness. I try to, I want to have all four of those. What's missing? You know, I think the ebb and flow, like I'll, I think there's times when your

physical health, you're working too hard. And then, so you're not as healthy. It's probably the healthiest I've seen you in. Yeah. Yeah. I've been able to, you know, I was doing a lot of work stuff and I balanced a little bit better. But I'm doing a lot of stuff. I think social life is super important. So I think in each person's life, if you're a genius and you're watching this, you'll be able to do it way better than me, which is always hold all four constantly up.

And that's what my thing is now. It's like, how can I structure my life so that all four of those are rocking and rolling? And that includes wealth sometimes. Here's a question from one of my listeners. Well, I'm first curious, before I ask the full question, is have you ever been married? No.

Okay. One of the questions is, has the money and the luxury that you live in and the lifestyle you have made relationships easier or harder for you? Intimate personal relationships. Yeah. I think that if you're not careful, money is like a pit bull and a pit bull can save your life or it can turn around and kill you and so when it comes to dating you know if i'm dating girls if you make more money

have more different status level you have to be more aware of that because there are like i said there are people with that don't have your best interest at heart. But you know what? I remember when I was poor and there's nasty people too. I haven't found that to be as big of a deal as people think. One thing that I think you have to be careful of is when you have a major status change in your life. So if you met a girl when you were poor, like Kevin Systrom, and then he became a billionaire, that can be rocky. Whereas if you're Bill Gates and you've been a billionaire since you're 30, he probably doesn't remember what it's like to have to cope. So I think the transition is more. What's your vision for a relationship in your life?

What do you want to create do you mean like love dating being married you see yourself i think maybe you know i don't know that there's this interesting book called attached by heller and levine and we know more now about how the brain works and there's different types of of people. It's called attachment theory. So there's secures, there's avoidance, and there's anxious. And the main takeaway I take from it, I don't think everybody's going to get married for 50 years. And my proof is the second you made the world free, meaning women didn't have to be married to men, they could survive economically and thrive without men, the divorce rate went straight to 50-50. And I will bet money it's going to be 50-50 for the next couple centuries.

Why? Because the attached theory has found that about 50% of children, and you can trace it back to toddler age, are secures. So I think the world would be a lot better place if you don't force everybody to get married. I do. I will tell you this. Everybody should have love in their life, romantic love. Do you have it?

I just broke up with, I was in a relationship for a couple years. So yeah, I think you should have it. I think I'm somebody, well, you can look at my life. I don't think I'll be somebody that necessarily got married at 19 and died at 80. You know what Dr. Marina Adshade, she told me, she goes, Ty, people forget throughout history, average marriage is 12 years because people used to die. Wow. So she goes, we're not our DNA. We're not all people thinking you're supposed to be with one person for 60 years, 50 years. She goes, it ain't happening because we're not coded that way. But about, I think,

50% of people. So if I had brothers and sisters or kids or whatever, I would just look at each person individually and be like, you know what? You're a lover. Get married, stay married. You look at another person, you know what? It's going to be a disaster. And you see that in the world. And kids end up getting messed up. I think it's a tricky question.

So what do you want to create moving forward? In relationships? Relationships? Yeah. What would be the ideal relationship for you i think you find love and you stay in it as long as it is meant to be i know that sounds like such a cliche thing but man imagine i grew up with a my a single mom my dad was in prison when i was born and uh then my mom got remarried. That marriage lasted for a while. I was rocky, eventually divorced.

You know, Dane Cook, you remember the comedian Dane Cook? I've seen him over at the Comedy Studio. Yeah, he did Laugh Factory stuff. I heard him say the best, most poignant point ever from the stage. He goes, why can't we just be adults and get to that point where you realize you're no longer in love and just go, wow, this has been awesome. We've got kids. I'm going to go live over here. You live over there and let's always love. He goes, no, we just let it degrade to the point where people want to

murder each other and the kids are in massive conflict. And so I think the mature, I think the worldview is wrong. There's no science that that 100% of people are meant to be married forever. Then what do you want to create then? What's the vision for your relationship in the future? If you could have the perfect ideal relationship, what would that look like or feel like? Well, I think you'd be in love and you'd want to be in love. But what I'm saying is… What do you want?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For me, definitely, I think all people, including me, you should have love. I'm just saying, some people it's going to be with one person forever. I understand, but I'm curious what you want, not what everyone else wants. It depends who I find.

If you could create the life of your dreams with the woman that you want to be with, just like you created this lifestyle. Yes, but this is different because it doesn't have our DNA. Okay. Let's just say you could. If I could change my DNA? No, let's say that you could create the relationship you want. You could create it. What would that be like for you? What would that look like?

Some relationship will be long and some will be short. That's what I think. So multiple relationships. In my lifetime. Yes. Yes. In a lifetime. Over a course of a lifetime.

You're not looking for one woman to have an incredible relationship with for the whole life. Well, I just said some could be long. Gotcha. So let's say tomorrow I meet a girl and you know that it's meant to be. But you know what? All relationships are temporary because somebody dies before the other person. I get it. But let's say you could have exactly what you want to do. What would that be? I think not like what it could be. Some long and some short.

That's what I think. Multiple relationships. I think that's what I'm destined to have. Okay. But what do you want? I want my destiny. No, but look, this is it. Here, let me give you an example. I understand. I want to know exactly what you want, not what you think. No, but I'm serious. I've trained myself to want what I think I'm built for. Let me give examples. You're not built for one person is what you're saying. Probably not. Okay, perfect. Awesome. Cool. This is a straight answer. I'm curious Okay, perfect. Probably not. Awesome, cool. This is a straight answer. I'm curious.

Lewis is good at interviewing. Here's another question. He's going to get the answer from me. Another question. If I'm being honest with you, I feel like you're avoiding a lot of the questions. No, I think... I just want to make sure we're getting to your thoughts and your ideas on how you're going to do it.

The reason you feel I'm avoiding, I think, is because I think some answers are hard. Absolutely. I think here's why I want to do this interview. Yes. Because I think people want to hear what the real hard answers are to you. Because I feel like from the responses I've been getting when I ask people what I should ask you. Yes.

Because they feel like you're not authentic. Right. They feel like you're not telling the truth. They feel like you're holding back. You're wearing something that's elusive. And you're acknowledging it. Something. That you're not authentic. Right. They feel like you're not telling the truth. They feel like you're holding back. You're wearing something that's elusive. And you're acknowledging it, saying that you're waiting. You're not revealing everything. Let me speak to that for one millisecond.

And I get it because you want to be guarded in certain areas. No, no, no, no, no. But I'm going to tell you this. This is my advice to myself and other people. Okay, let's hear it. The thief will always be suspicious. So when I meet somebody suspicious of me, it's always a flag to get the hell away from them, not prove myself. If you are ever in a situation where you're

dating someone and on the first date, they look over to you, go, and I just want to be clear, you ain't going to cheat on me. If they bring that up, if that's in their consciousness, that suspicion level, they will cheat on you. Because only thieves are thinking about breaking in. Sure, but if someone's curious to ask you questions about your life because they want to get to know you, that's not a thief. No, but I've found, because I meet a lot of people. The people who you meet, I meet, you meet, that are going, you know, there's something I don't feel authentic about you. I'm like, are you kidding?

Who's more authentic than me? It's usually a reflection of what they're missing in themselves. Who has a camera on me? I'm like, guys, when somebody goes, is that really you? I'm like, I do 150 Snapchats a day. You think this is a hotel? Some people are brain dead. I'm like, who's more authentic than somebody that turns the camera on them all the time in an unscripted format?

I'm not the Kardashian. I'm not on a set with the producers editing thing. I mean, we can edit a little bit, but I'm on live Facebook. So that's why I say the reason, and I advise anybody, if you get a lot of people asking you, I'm suspicious of these people, be careful of those people. The thief will steal from you eventually. Okay. Next question. We are in Beverly Hills. I'm assuming this is one of the nicest properties in the neighborhood. What do you got, 20 bedrooms? This place has 16. No, there's a place that's- 16 bedrooms. There's massive-

Guest pools, guest homes. It's pretty incredible. This is nothing. But it's nice. What's the place we went to, Lady Gaga, the place, Maya? Ron Burkle. Woo! This is Ron Burkle's bathroom.

We're in Ron Burkle's bathroom. I mean, I'm looking at a pool, cabanas. I am very thankful. Volleyball court, basketball court, tennis court, MMA gym. Yes. Giraffes running around in the backyard. You've got a nice lifestyle. Let's say we call it a luxurious lifestyle.

Maybe not compared to Lady Gaga's people, but you're in 90210, one of the richest, wealthiest areas in the world. Yes. Probably top ten, right? Yeah. Maybe number one. I mean, wealthiest areas in the world. Yes. Probably top 10, right? Yeah. Maybe number one. I mean, number one. I mean, number one.

The hills, yes. Now, what are the best and hardest parts about the lifestyle that you've created and also display to your audience? Because you put a lot of it on display. Yes. We were just walking around. You're showing your yard, your cars, the books, everything. But what's the best part and the hardest part about the lifestyle you've been doing?

I mean, the best part is, specifically for this place, is being able to live in a city but feel a little bit like I'm in the countryside. Because I actually like farms. I lived 10 years on a farm. And so this place has grass. I've lived in LA. I've lived in on a farm. And so like this place has like grass, like I've lived in LA, I've lived in New York where I didn't have any money. When I first came to LA, actually from San Diego, when I first moved, I was born here, but left as a little kid. When I came back to LA, I could only afford, I decided I was gonna live in Santa Monica. I thought that'd be nice, but I didn't have much money. So I rented this temporary place that was like

250 square feet. So what's nice about this place is literally just having some space makes me feel more peaceful. And I think if you live in cities, I was just in New York, unknowingly your cortisol levels jump up. And the hardest part of living here, here's the thing for anybody that's successful, I will tell you, tall poppy syndrome, status is a bitch i just read a fascinating article by dr david bus who may be one of the smartest guys to walk this planet in this century and he said he he wrote about this anytime you

display status men especially women somewhat in their own, women more against women. But men against men, it becomes threatening to some men and stuff like that. And so the biggest part is go, do I want to show that I have a Lamborghini? The first nice car that I got, really, I got a Maserati in like, I don't remember, 2008 or something. From 2008, 2014, and I had a Ferrari after that. I never posted a picture. I posted one picture on my Facebook for six years. So when people think that I got cars to show off, I'm like, in six years, you look on my Facebook.

It goes all the way back and shows that you can see the picture. So why I start showing it? So that's the good question. So why? I'll tell you why I'm going to just tell you now There's not a person in history Or a government

That has more kids in the ghetto Reading books than me You can hate me all you want Around displaying stuff But what are you doing for the world? That's tangible That you can put your finger on I got more kids interested in reading, knowledge, mentors, probably than anybody in history.

If I got to show a Lamborghini for that and you have a problem with that, go fucking change the world on your own, dude. I don't give a shit. That's my honest thing. That's no mask. That's like great. If you could do it in some other way, you're way smarter than me. But if you can't do it and you can only complain about how I did it, why don't you learn? Why don't you do your own version of it? If you want to inspire people to rock climb, go do the equivalent of rock climbing. I'm showing people how to do, how to aspire to more. And you got to be practical. You know what motivates people? I had this, my brother had a birthday party in my house. When I was walking, when it

was over, this guy walked up to me and said, man, I'm a school teacher. I'm a friend of your brother. And I just want to tell you the other day, this kid was walking around and he's like, he's been a juvenile delinquent in and out of jail, whole four years in high school. And I saw him carrying him some books on business. And I walked up, this is an inner city of LA, like Compton. I'm from Long Beach, ghetto part. I said, I walked up a kid. I said to this guy, why are you reading this book? What did I never seen with book? And the kid turned to me and said, Ty Lopez, I get get a Lamborghini if I read. Now, that's not actually what I say, but you see the inspiration there?

It's your Trojan horse. Yeah. Brings people into luxury. But it's actually, this is the thing. Some people would say, oh, so what you're saying is it's a white lie. It's not a white lie. That's how I fucking got a Lamborghini. I read books.

My second mentor, Alan Nation, I was 20 on a farm one morning in Joel Salatin's. Where was this? This is in Virginia on a farm. I was mentoring on this guy named Joel Salatin and his mentor, Alan Nation, came. First time I met him and he was the most fascinating person I ever met. And I think at this point he might have been a millionaire, but I never met a millionaire, dude. Growing up, I don't think I ever met somebody who made more than 50 grand. My family was not dirt poor. They would have been had it not been for my grandma. But I grew up around my mom.

Single mom probably made 20 grand a year. So I had $200 for Christmas growing up. Well, when I met this guy on the nation, come down the stairs, realized this guy's successful, talk to him. And he started quoting from this book. And I said, how do you know so much about this book? He goes, oh, I always read a book before breakfast. I said, how do you remember? He said, well, you got to train. And that's why I learned to read a book a day. And from those books, if you read the right books, you get to collect and collate the knowledge of people who have spent a lifetime. And so when I say what I like more than

Lamborghini is these books. There is pure truth. Where would you be without reading books? Oh, man. Trying to hunt down mentors in person, which I do now. See, I do read now, but if I didn't choose to read, I could get away with it. Why? Because now I call the authors. You get the knowledge from the people, yeah. Yeah, but when I was, I lived in a mobile home in North Clayton, North Carolina. When was this? Growing up as a teenager.

Okay, it was double wide, so we weren't super poor, but it was a trailer. You think if I called up Dr. David Buss and said, will you talk to me an hour a week? No, but I could buy his book. And I could, when I couldn't afford a book, I could go to the library. And so to be able to, I mean, what America needs, here's the problem. The white house tries to do learning initiatives. Public schools try to do learning initiatives where you go to kids in the ghetto and you say, yo, read. No, it's not cool. It's not swagger. If you're in the ghetto, I grew up around all projects and stuff.

I grew up in North Carolina, Long Beach, even San Diego where I was. It's a lot of gang stuff. Kids are not going to lose their swag and maybe get beat up and shot to look cool. But you know what? Now, the way I do it, millions of people aren't afraid of it because I still have swagger and I do that. And so if I make learning knowledge cool and some uppity entrepreneurs have a problem with it, I'm like, shit, you bring no fucking value. Come sit down with me. You don't know jack shit.

And so I don't care about those people. There is of no consequence. And, you know, I often tell my employees, one of my companies we kind of call Knowledge Society, I say, I want you to know, name a company more important than ours. Name it. Apple? No. Apple? No. Facebook?

No. We are making millions of Einsteins, geniuses that in the past rotted in the ghetto. They're going to be found now. And what that will do for civilization is important. So what we're doing is important. So underneath all of that stuff, which has an edge to it, but it's real edge. There's not one car in that garage that's ever been rented. There's nothing.

Everything people see is literally, and my camera guys are right here. We might set up a scene five seconds before, like move the camera over there. But there's nothing like, okay, tomorrow, let's go. Does it matter if it's rented or owned? Does it really matter? No, no, but I'm saying there's nothing. Now, if you rent a Lamborghini for a year, you'd be insane because it'd be about a million dollars a year to rent. No, no, but what I'm saying is there's nothing fake.

This is my life. Your house is rented, right? Yeah, well, real estate estate here's my recommendation i own lots of real estate i lease some own some my feelings on real estate in general are that we're in a bubble in different parts like i'm going into london i'm gonna lease in london london's gonna be so if you're an entrepreneur for tax reasons, do what your CPA says. Sometimes you're going to lease cars. Sometimes you're going to buy them.

So I'm going to lease property. Sometimes I do. Sometimes you can lease to own stuff. I'm curious about, so you grew up pretty poor. You had mentors. You lived on a farm. At one point you lived with Amish people for two years. Where was that?

That was, I lived in a little bit in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and then the longest in a group in Virginia. It's big in Ohio. I mean, I'm from Ohio, and there's a lot of Amish people there. So you were there. Where in Ohio, do you remember? Yeah, I was in Holmes County. Okay, cool. Oh, yeah.

People with trailers and everything, with little- Yeah, buggies. Yeah, you got Holmes and Wayne and all those counties. I know some of the language. Some good maple butter, man. You look like you. Are you German? German, no.

No? Welsh and English. Oh, okay. When did you make your first million dollars and how did you make it there? So after. And how old were you? Yeah, that's. I don't know that the way.

It was. It's a good question. People have asked me, you know, one of the problems with me, why sometimes people think that I'm lying about stuff. I have purposely built my brain to not care about like milestones. I'm so big on that because, and I know other people like milestones and I respect that, but I'm really, um, a person that tries not to think about the past so much. So I, a lot of times, that's why I'm like, when did I get the Maserati the first time? I'm like, ah, I don't remember the year. Um, when were you working? No, I was entrepreneur for sure. And, um, remember when you started this company? Oh yeah. Yeah. In my twenties,

the first thing I did, um, so I went to work for Jeep. So my very first business was when I was five. I started tomato stand for one day. Didn't do so well. So I folded that business lemonade stand the next day that did better. And then we live in such a retarded world. Cause I was so entrepreneurial. I think, from birth. No one encouraged me to be an entrepreneur again until I was 19. So I wasted 14 years of my life learning about isosceles triangles and stuff in the modern school system.

You know, by the way, people that think there's frauds and scams in the world, anything that you think is a scam isn't a scam. A scam is something you don't know. It's a blind spot. Sometimes people go, Ty, is your 67-step scam? I'm like, you want to know what a scam is?

Go to the cafeteria at your school. This is a scam. You got Coca-Cola being given to seven-year-olds. They give them Ritalin. This is a scam, my friends, and you don't realize it, and so that's why it's a real scam. A real thief, you don't know he broke into your house. Anyway, so 19, I started a business with Joel Salatin.

I had a farm. I worked on his farm. And then I overheard him talking about a neighbor who wanted to rent a farm. And Joel was telling his wife, I don't have the time to do it. And I spoke up and I said, I will run this farm for you, Joel. What kind of farm is this? It was a cattle farm. Yeah.

But I said, I have no money to buy the cows. It was just empty grass. Yes. And so Joel said, I'll tell you what, Ty. I'll put the money up. I don't remember how much. It was like $30,000 or $50,000 to buy the cows. And at the end of the year, you do all the work.

We'll split the cows. And at the end of the year, you do all the work, we'll split the money. And so I would wake up at five in the morning, work till six at night. And then I'd put a helmet flashlight, drive 45 minutes to this farm and work till like 10, four hours at that farm and then come home and sleep and do that seven days a week. And I did that for a year. In your early twenties? Yeah, I think I was around 19 for this. And at the end of the year, we sold it at Cal's, and I made 12 grand profit, which I thought was an incredible amount of money.

You're rich. Oh, man. And I took that money. But what I did is I took that money and I traveled the world to find more mentors. And I actually ran out of money when I was in New Zealand traveling. North Island or the South? I was in Christchurch in the South. So I had to shear sheep to save up enough money to get out of the it's beautiful but after that so that was a

small business i'd say the first bigger business when i came back to north carolina my mom was getting divorced again and as when i was sleeping on the couch a lot of people have heard my story and what happened 21 years old now yeah it might it might have been, yeah, around then. You didn't go to college then, I'm assuming. So then I decided I'd try to go to college. I didn't have enough money. I went to NC State. I think I have about eight credit hours probably somewhere at NC State. But I started a little consulting company,

and I was working at like Starbucks or something, and I remember my first paycheck after two weeks was like $120. And I was like, Ooh, this isn't going to help me very much. Cause my tuition was like 1000 a month. And so, um, I started this little consulting business cause I knew a lot about land from Joel Salatin, helping people from other countries buy farms in America. And this guy said, if you write me a one, uh, one paper on where I should buy land in America, I'll send you my normal consulting fee. So I did that and he wired me like $10,000 for a one hour paper. And I was like, I will be an entrepreneur. This is much better. I make 10 grand in an hour. So after that, I, I did that consulting business for a little while, and then I started. I worked for GE Capital, and then I spun off a company with a business partner named John DeWar.

And I didn't have much money then, and I talked him into putting in the first 50 grand, and we were 50-50 partners. He's still a friend, and that company still exists. So we managed money. It was a wealth management company. So that was the first time. That business. Made real money. Yeah, I started getting six figures.

And then I was in the nightclub and ran a lot of nightclubs. So I had two things going. I'm a big fan for people. In North Carolina. Yeah, but I was pretty big. We had 1,000, 2,000 people. And that's when I started really making money. Okay.

In the nightclub and in the wealth management business. Yeah. Early 20s. Yeah, and then that went on until about mid to late 20s. Do you have a number or amount you're trying to earn? I go back and forth on that. Sometimes I'm like, I don't care. I'll tell you this.

Here's my number that I know that I have. I'm interested because now I'm starting businesses or investing. I'm interested only in things that can do $100 million or more or revenue. They don't have to start there. Sure. I believe I call it the rule of 10. So for anybody watching, if you're not an entrepreneur, start out trying to make $100 a month.

You can do it while you're doing your full-time job. Part-time, make $100 from an entrepreneur, start out trying to make $100 a month. You can do it while you're doing your full-time job. Part-time, make $100 from an entrepreneur venture. Then once you do that, figure out how to make $1,000. Then once you do $1,000 a month, figure out how to make $10,000. Then $100,000. Then $1,000,000 a month. And then you just go up. So I'm at the point, and you don't go backwards. Once you figure out how to make $10,000 a month, don't launch a business that's going to make $5,000. And so now I'm at the place where, you know, I want to do things that can do nine figures. If I can hit that, then you try to go after 10 figures.

What would that figure mean to you? I would only do it if it's a business that I think is valuable. I see so many businesses that make people a billion dollars that are like, some of them are harmful for the world. I try to stick with, I've always done businesses that it may be night, even when I did nightclubs, I was not involved in the alcohol side. So the restaurant did all that. I never made a penny in my life from alcohol,

even though people were coming to the club and drinking. But I wouldn't want to try, I would not make a billion dollars by launching a cigarette company or something like that. Sure, sure, sure. I mean, what would the money mean to you once you hit that number? More adventure, man.

That's it. For me, if it's like more freedom. So let's say you make a billion dollars. To me, it'd be like adventure time would accelerate. Like now I have adventure. Somebody came to me and go, yo, Ty, I've got this bad-ass idea for a new health food supplement. I'd be like, well, you got a billion dollars. Now you'd be like, here's a million bucks. Go, let's see if we can make an adventure happen here. So for me, it would just be like all lifestyle related. Don't you feel like you have a good lifestyle already? Yeah. That's what I said. I'm not, I go back and forth. There's a

part of me that's super like, Oh, you got to make a billion dollars. You got to make, you got to make a hundred million. Do you not feel satisfied with the amount you've already made? I do. I do. I go for more than if you've already hit me. I'm not, I'm only going for more adventure. And if the adventure turns into money, then I'll be happy. Okay. No, I honestly believe, man, that there was a guy here,

speaking of the Cabanas, I was sitting in the Cabanas, much wealthier than me here. And I think I have a chef and the chef brought me food. And he said, why do you waste money on all this stuff? I said, well, all the money in the world doesn't matter if you don't know how to spend it. And I have a

better life than you and you know it. And I, it was between two friends. I wasn't cocky. And he laughed because on this street here in Beverly Hills, there's a lot of people just trying to build money and tally it up. I've never been that way. So my goal is to have this, but I like to have a chef because I suck at cooking and the food you eat is the number one predictor of your health. You know that as a pro athlete, even more than working out. You can work out till the cows come home. If you eat shitty, you fall apart, period. So to me, I think he's crazy for being a billionaire level guy and not having a chef. I'm like, you're cooking sub-quad.

Why wouldn't you want the best, man? What's all that money going to do? Like Steve Jobs said, don't want to be the richest man in the graveyard. That's true. You don't want to be. A few questions left for you. Yeah. Here's one.

What do you think of people like Warren Buffett who live in the same small house he bought many years ago? Yes. Obviously, there's people out there with tons the same small house you bought many years ago? Yes. Obviously, there's people out there with tons of money who don't live a flashy lifestyle. Yes. And what's your take on that? Someone like that who doesn't have to, you know, or that doesn't, you know, put it out there. So I think that I'm an extrovert.

And Warren Buffett, a little bit of an extrovert, but not really. He's more of an introvert. He says he likes to lock himself in his office eight hours a day. That's more introverted. And so when you're an introvert, a lot of what I do, the stuff you see, like a big house here. Last month I threw a party, 490 people came. This house lets me be social. I got a basketball court.

We play, you're good at basketball. I've got a dojo here. I can have 20 top Brazilian jujitsu people come here. So for me, if getting a small house would be a waste of life for me, but for somebody who's introverted, who doesn't want that, and I strongly believe that about half the world is extrovert and half the world is introvert, you must know yourself. If you're an introvert, then you want to use your money in much different ways.

Okay. What's something that people who don't have money wrongly assume about money and wealth? who don't have money wrongly assume about money and wealth? That it's poisonous or something. There's been a lot of research on unhappy people who get wealthy or don't get more unhappy or more happy. Your happiness isn't changed. But I will tell you, not having enough money is very stressful. Having a lot of money can also be stressful for a lot of people. More stressful. I don't know if it's more stressful. I think you've got fear of losing it, the fear of people taking advantage. Yes. Yeah. You've

made a lot of money, so you know you're probably like me, both sides of the coin. I think, though, that there's a myth, because some of it's Judeo-Christian, that money is the root of all evil. I think if you look at the statistics, lack of money is the root of all evil. If you want to look where the most kids, if you think, what is evil? How about millions of kids starving to death? This only happens in poor countries. Where are women exploited? Mostly, the wealthiest country in the world, One of them is Norway. I was just in Norway. There's no strip clubs in Norway. There's zero porn produced there because women are as rich as guys. So they ain't going to do that. So the real thing is the lack of money and resources.

That is the root of all evil and people who become crazy once they get money, mark my words, if you had met them 10 years before, they were probably crazy too. Warren Buffett was a cool cat before. Bill Gates was cool before. There's a lot of crooks who have money too, who are corrupt.

Yeah, that's what I said. It's more neutral on that. Yeah, it gives you more, yes. It enhances who you are. Yes. If you're a good person, you're going to be more good. If you're a good person, you're going to be more good. If you're a bad person, you're going to be more bad. And I'll tell you, here's a little thing that's been interesting.

One of the coolest things about my lifestyle now is I get to meet a lot of interesting people like you, Lewis. And not too long ago, last month, me and Arnold Schwarzenegger, I was at his house. I got to chill with him for an hour in his kitchen just talking. And all kinds of interesting people in this last year. From, you know, billionaires to like Rihanna type, Rihanna and stuff like that. And here's the thing. Because some people think it's name dropping. It's not name dropping.

The interesting thing is that the people at the top are cooler. They're nicer. It's the mid-level people you have to watch out for. So one of the main reasons, and I didn't get, going into being successful, this was not on my radar, but it's on my radar now. If I wanted to become a billionaire, which I vacillate back and forth between really caring about, I can tell you why. I actually thought about this today. I was listening to Kevin Systrom talk, and I was like, this dude's damn interesting. And I was like, maybe I should try to become a billionaire because he'd hang out with me if I was a billionaire. Not because billionaires are looking down, but billionaires have to protect themselves a little bit.

So I think for somebody, one of the myths is that you don't want to become successful because it poisons your social circle. No. The worst social circle is at the mid-tier. That's annoying. Like if you work at a company, it's the mid-management that sucks. Usually the founder of the business, interesting. It's a risk taker. It's a smart person.

People on this block are interesting. The other day, I heard a funny story. I did this party and all these influencers came. It was an influencer party. And I sent a bottle of wine. We sent to everybody saying, sorry, it's going to be loud here. I'm having a party. And only one neighbor wrote back.

Okay. And we got, so we have the letter somewhere. And I opened the letter and it said, Ty, it's your place. Do whatever you want. Have a loud party. I hope you have fun. Signed, Kirk Douglas. See, the people at the top, Kirk Douglas.

He's the coolest guy of all of them. He sees the world clearly with the least. That's why he became Kirk Douglas. And there are some people at the top that are crazy. You know, Bill Clinton FaceTimed me. What was it, a couple weeks ago? I was driving. Maya said, pull over.

I got FaceTimed. Maya was with Bill Clinton in Vegas. And so he FaceTimed me. And I'm talking to him. It's just a short little thing. We're talking on his favorite books. It's just a short little thing. We're talking on his favorite books. It was the most interesting short interview I ever had.

Because it's Bill Clinton. You don't get to be two-time president and be a moron. Or usually not. I don't know about our current political atmosphere. Let's just say, hypothetical, that you only had $100,000 a year. Yes. That's how much you were going to make every year. It was just like you were forced to only have $100,000.

You couldn't make any more for whatever reasons. Will something happen in the world? That's all you could have. What would you do with that money? Dude, I would try to set up my life exactly how I have now. I wouldn't be able to do it exactly, but I would try. My lifestyle, sometimes I'm like, don't mess it up, Ty. It doesn't take as much. I spend now $100,000 a month on mentors a month, traveling to them, doing stuff, whatever related. I would scale everything back, but I would keep every element that I would literally do my best. So for example, but you can take the last

24 hours. What did I do in the last 24 hours? I had jujitsu with Higa Machado. Well, I can afford now to pay them to come private. I would just go to the gym, but I would keep jujitsu in my life. I would just go to the gym. Right. But I would keep jujitsu in my life. Right, right, right. I have a weight trainer. I play basketball.

I will go to the park. We went out to a comedy club last night. You can afford, if you make 100 grand, you can afford to go to improv. It's 10 bucks a ticket. Sure. I brought a lot of people and bought everybody food. I would just make everybody pay for their own. Right, of course.

But I'm saying that's the litmus test that I think we should all hold ourselves to. And, and let me just say this last thing, cause this speaks to your concept of the masks. There's a great, I forget who did this science study, but there's two ways you can consume as a person making money. There's conspicuous consumption and, and inconspicuous and conspicuous consumption and inconspicuous. And conspicuous is what makes you unhappy. So I don't have any nice watches. Okay. And some of my friends are like, you should have a Rolex because if you are successful, you need to show that. Well, I don't really care about watches. Never did. So if I bought a watch for me, it would be what's called conspicuous. Me trying to show off. Inauthentic. Yeah. So I don't do it. You trying to show off. Inauthentic. Yeah.

So I don't do it. You like the car. But I'll tell you this. Yeah. If the world ended and there wasn't one human on the planet, just like that Will Smith. What was that Will Smith movie? Legend or something. Yeah.

I'm legend. He went and got a Mustang. Well, that was product placement. I would go straight to the Lambo dealership and turn that bad boy on to have myself a Lambo alone on the planet. Why? Have you ever driven a Lambo dealership and turn that bad boy on to have myself a Lambo alone on the plant. Why? Have you ever driven a Lambo? No. Oh, you drive one. You drive it once. If you like power, it's just, there's nothing. I drove a Bugatti. I know the CEO of Bugatti. He let me drive one. Oh, this thing, that one is actually too fast. So Lambo is perfect. You don't need 1,400 horse.

But my point is, that's inconspicuous. I would try, if I only made 100 grand. Yellowware watches or jewelry. If I made 100 grand a year, I wouldn't be able to live here. But I would live in a house that had these elements. I'd make sure it had. Live in the guest house of someone who has. Yeah, or I would move back to North Carolina,

where for 100 grand income income you might be ill for a hundred grand income you could have a backyard this big you could have you could pour you know what i did when when we were poor growing up all right middle class my mom got remarried so as i got older there was another source of income my stepdad worked at post office he wasn't, but we had this little house, we had a house, 2000 square foot house or whatever. And there was woods in the background. And for Christmas, he convinced the neighbor, he didn't have much money to get a bobcat, you know, a little piece of equipment and knock 20 trees down and then pack down the dirt. And then they poured, we poured cement and I had a basket full court basketball. We could only afford one light. So you can only see at night, the light would point one way. So, and that, so that whole court was built for $0. The neighbor did it. So if I only

had a hundred grand, I'd be like, how can I get my free basketball court? Sure. Sure. Sure. Okay. A couple of final questions. I appreciate all the insights. Oh, thanks for putting up with my, what is it? I'm closed, I guess. What are you most grateful for in your life recently? I read a book on luck, and anybody who's successful should thank God for all the luck you've had. And you could have been born with a disease. So I try to, that's why I say, I try not to go, people go, do you think you're successful?

I'm like, I try to not even entertain those thoughts. I try not to go, I'm successful, I'm not successful. There's that great poem by Rudyard Kipling called If, and it says, you know, if you can meet triumph and disaster and treat those imposters both the same. To think of your life as triumphant or disastrous is to waste your life. So for me, I'm just grateful that I'm moving forward. That's what I want to do. As long as I'm moving forward, I'm grateful, and I'm grateful that I'm healthy, that good people around me and stuff like that. So I'm grateful for it all, man. good people around me and stuff like that. So I'm,

I'm grateful for it all, man. What's the, I feel like we could all be better human beings. There's always a way to become better. So what's something you feel like you could be better at to be a better human being? Probably more patient. What do you say? My cousin there was smiling. Yeah. My friend has that band company where you put like a band reminder around you. Yeah. My intent. So mine said patience. Uh, here's how I think about doing good. I came up with this simple agreement with myself, which was, I call the 50 50 rule. I've tried to live where you live a hundred percent for others in the world and you just lose motivation because we're inherently somewhat selfish. So I try to live my life 50-50. So I go 50% of my life I live selfishly.

Like if I want a Lamborghini, I'm going to do that. But I have to counterbalance my selfishness with 50-50. I've tried every variation. I've tried to live 100% for myself where you're like, get everybody. No, don't worry about anybody else. And I've tried to live the other way. And that 50-50, ever since I stumbled upon that thought, has been one of the big breakthroughs in my life. How much would you say you donate a year to charities or things that you value? See, this is something I'm not, see, not, just to be fair, I am secretive about some things that you think I should tell. I don't think you should or shouldn't.

I'm just kidding. But what about age? But I'm also secretive on how much money I give because I feel like if I say then I'm giving money for the wrong reasons, I'm giving money to show off. But I will tell you. Or if you look at it as an inspiration and look how much he gives. Which it's funny you say that. I look at it from a positive standpoint as opposed to… Yeah.

I'll say this. There's one thing on public record because I did a matching thing. So you had to know how much I gave. So Heifer Project, which is one of the biggest charities in the world, I did a million-dollar matching. So I gave a million. Right, Maya? And we matched. Yeah.

So that was a couple. But I do more than that. My goal right now, I'm giving away a million dollars worth of stuff to followers. Obviously, that has some help because it helps my social media. But I, but. How important is giving financially to charities or things you believe in? Yeah, super important. I think.

Do you think we all should do that? Yeah, I mean, ideally, I know it's crazy, I think you should do that 50-50 rule. I think you can give away, even the U.S. tax code, you can deduct up to 50% of your AGI, your adjusted gross income, for charity. So I think a good goal, I'm not quite there yet, but I think if I could set up my life, if you make 10 million bucks, if you make 1 million bucks, if you make 100,000, give half away. It's tough, but it'd be a cool life. It'd be another adventure to test. So that's the, I'm not sure how far away I am from the goal, but maybe that's a good

goal. What do you want your epitaph to say? Maybe that's a good goal. What do you want your epitaph to say? He was a mad scientist, and some of the stuff he said was important. I love that. Okay. Not all of it's important.

You can ignore about 90% of the stuff I say. Every once in a while, I'm winning by sheer volume of ideas. Before I ask the final question, where can we connect with you online? Uh, probably, you know, a good place is Snapchat. If you're not using Snapchat, if you're older or younger, use Snapchat. It's a fascinating, um, tool. And of course, Instagram now has Insta stories. So it's at TyLopez for both Instagram and Snapchat. If you want to get my book summaries, you can just go to TyLopez.com. I've got a book of the day email there. I think I've got the biggest book club in the world.

I did a TEDx talk. I think it's going to be top four of all time. Right now it's top 12. But, yeah. What are you most proud of that you've done in your life most proud of like single thing that i did sure i just got my blue belt in jujitsu i was kind of proud that was about the most proud of myself I've been in a while. All right. Jiu-jitsu is a bitch if you haven't done it.

So if you meet somebody who's a black belt in jiu-jitsu, yeah, if I can keep getting belts in jiu-jitsu, I think that's about as proud as I'll be. Okay. All right. Oh, no, I got one more. Sure. Played Chris Paul on horse.

Got him to a damn standstillstill he had to play for two hours anything basketball related if you look on my instagram i nailed a shot on metal world peace right on who was nba defensive player in the year of the year so all that kind of stuff is that's where i'm the cockiest on the basketball court i grew up playing basketball on the projects that's where my true uh cocky side comes out. I'll have to come play sometimes. You're good. He's good.

We'll have to play. Before I ask the final question, I want to acknowledge you, Ty, for opening up, for sharing some more things that I don't feel like you've shared before, and for doing a lot of good with what you're doing. I feel like by showing the lifestyle, I think a lot of people have the misconception that you're egotistical or cocky or who knows. But I think after listening to you, knowing that your mission is to inspire the youth who aren't educated to read more books so they can potentially have a better life,

whether that's this lifestyle or just a better life for themselves. Right. I think that's some great stuff you're doing. So I want to acknowledge you for that. Oh, thanks. I want to thank you. It was a good interview. You're good at this. Thanks, man.

You should make a podcast. And you should teach people how to do this because you know how to do it. So at the end of the day, many, many years from now, it's your last day. And not everything you've ever created has been erased. But you get a piece of paper and a pen to write down the three things you know to be true about your life and your experience in life, that you would pass on. That's only what people would remember you by, those three things. What would be your three truths? So number one, be aware.

Remove the delusion in your life. And I was explaining that if you meet somebody who's more successful than you and your ego wants to go, this person's a jerk. Look clearly, be aware. Are they really a jerk? Or maybe they know something you don't know. So that'd be number one, be aware. Number two, you only learn from mistakes, but they don't have to be yours. That's what Warren Buffett said. So learn, the reason I read, the reason I believe in mentors, is I can shorten the path by letting them make the mistake and then just tell me, oh, Ty, don't put your hand on the stove. Okay, I never have to do that. And then the third one, I would say, is this 50-50 rule.

Don't completely live for others and don't completely live for yourself. If you live too much for others, you'll lose motivation because we're a little bit selfish and we need to be a little selfish. But if you only live for yourself, you become disconnected from humanity. Last question, what's your definition of greatness? Definition of greatness. I think on everybody's grave, it should be able to say it was important you were here in some way. We're not all going to be.

I can't be Einstein. He was important. But you lose track of that. You I think you lose meaning in life. And so some people are going to be. But you got to be important. And the sad thing is a lot of people, not only are they not important, but they're detrimental to the world.

The world would be better off if they weren't there. And so whether you're a parent, stay-at-home mom, stay-at-home dad, be important so that someday somebody looks back and goes, thank God that person was here. I like that. Awesome. Ty, thanks for coming on. Thanks so much, man.

There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. What did you think? Did I fail you as bad as I felt like I did by not really getting to open him up in the ways that I wanted to and have him answer the certain questions that I asked? Do you feel like he went around the questions too much or did you feel like, wow, I'm surprised that Ty even opened up that much based on what you knew about him. Let me know what you think again in the comment section below. And I'd be glad to go back and do another follow-up interview as I think Ty really enjoyed connecting and

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