The School of Greatness - 418 The Power of Creating a Spiritual Vision with Krishna ji
Episode Date: December 12, 2016"The one path to finding true joy is looking at the truth." - Krishna ji If you enjoyed this episode, check out show notes, video, and more at http://lewishowes.com/418 ...
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Episode number 418 on the power of a spiritual vision with Krishna G.
Welcome to the School of Greatness.
My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message
to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
Thanks for spending some time with me today.
Now let the class begin.
Welcome everyone to the School of Greatness podcast.
Most of you know that I spent a couple of weeks in India recently
where I was doing a meditation retreat. And at this meditation
retreat, I learned so much more about myself, about my thoughts, about my body, about my breath,
about my ideas, about my mindset. And I felt like I was able to dive deeper into the meaning
of everything and the meaning of why I'm here and why we're all here,
how this all happened, what the purpose of this is. You know, my entire childhood,
I constantly was in the question of why am I here and what is the purpose? What is the purpose,
especially if I feel all this frustration and anger and disappointment
and lack of belonging and I felt insecure?
Why am I here?
I had these questions over and over again.
And I never understood the answer.
I never knew what the answers were.
So I just led to more frustration and more disappointment and anger and lashing out and, you know, just doing all the
troublesome things that I did as a young boy growing up and as a young teenager. You know,
I've been on a journey seeking answers my entire life. You know, one of the reasons I do this
podcast is to seek the truth from people who've been there and done that before, the truth that works for them.
And to see if that truth resonates with me, with where I'm at in my life. And sometimes certain truths or wisdom that I've had in different parts of my life or different times may not work or be
as relevant in other times. And so I think I'm constantly looking for answers
and the truth to deepen my spiritual practice,
to heighten my sense of awareness,
to let go of the things that don't support or serve me
and continue to develop myself as a human being
to be the best that I can possibly be
in all areas of my life. That's what
the School of Greatness is for, becoming the best version of yourself in every area of your life.
And I met with Prita G, who we had on the podcast a while ago, and she invited me out. She's one of
the founders of One World Academy. She invited me to One World Academy in India. And Krishna G,
her husband, who is one of the founders, they're both the founders, but this is really his vision and his baby brought to life.
They both founded it together. There were some profound things that I learned. And I want to
share with you throughout this interview with Krishnaji what I learned. He turns the tables
around on me at some point in this interview
and kind of asked me the biggest lessons that I've learned and the most profound things.
So if you're curious about hearing what happened, this was at the very end, I think the last couple
days of my experience in India for a couple of weeks. So you're going to hear what I was
experiencing in the moment. We recorded this in their studio.
So for those that aren't aware of what has happened or what I did, make sure to go back
to the previous interview.
We'll have it linked up in the show notes at lewishouse.com slash 418.
You can learn more there.
But this is me during the meditation retreat, what I was learning and experiencing and what I was thinking in that moment. So Krishnaji in 2009, he with his wife,
Pritha Ji started One World Academy. And this academy is a wisdom school for enlightenment.
It is based in a new tradition where the focus is on knowing one's self and discovering that we are connected to all that exists, everything
that exists. Now, Krishnaji and Pretaji are enlightened world teachers whose vision is to
free individuals of all forms of unhappiness. And their teachings challenge every justification
for living in sorrow and inner isolation.
So if you feel any type of pain, any type of suffering, any type of anguish, then make
sure you listen very closely to this entire interview because the things that I learned
about how to rid suffering from myself were so profound and yet so simple when I grasped
the concept.
And some of the things we talk about are the importance of looking for answers inside our so profound, and yet so simple when I grasp the concept.
And some of the things we talk about are the importance of looking for answers inside ourselves instead of outside ourselves constantly, which kind of contradicts me constantly questioning
people and asking questions all the time.
But I'm just a curious guy.
I'm always going to ask that.
But really, it was interesting when I asked Krishnaji who his
greatest teacher was, his answer was quite profound for me. And I think the answer will
resonate with all of you if you take a moment to listen. We talk about the one path to finding true
joy. If you want to be joyful in your life, if you want to experience this bliss, this joy, then you have
to follow this simple path. Also, why having a spiritual vision is essential to life. Guys,
after I learned more and more about this, I realized, wow, that's why I suffered so much.
And wow, that's why I was so angry when I was a child. The importance of a spiritual vision
and what happens if we don't have one.
Also, we talk about why many people struggle to live in a positive state of mind and how to shift out of that, and then also how to end your suffering after becoming aware of
it.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am so excited for you guys to connect with this.
And Krishna G has a softer tone tone so be aware and listen in
and lean in as you're listening
and really pay attention
and I hope you guys get a lot out of this.
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This is the power of creating a spiritual vision with the meditation master,
the one, the only Krishna G.
Welcome everyone back to the school of greatness podcast.
We are here in India at one world Academy with Kristen G.
Thanks so much for having me.
Thanks so much for doing the interview.
I just finished two weeks here.
Yes.
This is my last day.
I leave in a few hours back to the United States.
We will miss you.
Yes, I will miss you guys as well.
And what an experience, man.
What a great experience.
I interviewed your wife, Prita G.
This was about a month and a half ago, two months ago?
Two months ago.
Yes.
And really didn't know what to expect coming here.
She just said, you need to come.
She invited me.
I had the recommendation from our good friend, Ben Sterner, who introduced us.
And I said, okay, I trust you guys.
I'll come.
But I didn't know what to expect.
But what I learned and what I created was magic.
So I want to thank you for bringing me into your home, making me part of your family,
and for your incredible team for having me here.
Now, One World Academy is a wisdom school that you started in 2009, is that correct?
Yes.
And why did you start this?
Before we talk about my experience and what I've learned, I want to know why you started it.
this. Before we talk about my experience and what I've learned, I want to know why you started it.
We started One World Academy to teach people to live in powerful spiritual states. And
you know, we are constantly looking for answers for happiness, for a joy, for a fulfillment
in the external. Whereas we actually need to take the journey
inwards. All our
experiences in life happens within
us. Take any emotion
for that matter. Emotion of hurt,
anger, peace, love,
jealousy,
connection, courage,
fear, passion.
Where do you experience these emotions?
You experience these emotions within you.
So if you want a transformation,
if you want a change to happen in your life,
the journey you need to make is within you.
But we are constantly searching for answers outside of us.
So One World Academy was started with that intention
that each and every individual on this planet can be taught to make the journey with them, to find
happiness within them, to find fulfillment within them, to find joy
within them, to find love, connection, courage, passion within them so that they
can then give back to the world. See we are constantly searching for love
outside of us, we are searching for passion outside of us.
We want something to motivate us.
We want someone else to love us.
If you are in a suffering
state, if you are in a state of fear,
if you are in a state of anger, if you are in a state of disconnect,
how will you experience
these beautiful experiences?
So our understanding is
you need to live in these beautiful
states to share.
So we are in a constant mode of expecting.
We want someone to give so that we can transform.
We want someone to change so that we can transform.
We want situations to change around the life so that we can feel better.
When we are constantly seeing people are changing,
probably someone is really loving you,
probably the systems outside are certainly becoming better.
But we are constantly seeing in the world that we are becoming unhappier.
We are not becoming happier beings.
That means the answer is within us.
It's not outside of us.
What is outside of us is to create a better world, a more comfortable world.
A world that can be more beautiful, which can be enjoyed,
and where we can survive as
a human species.
But to find real joy and to find
real happiness and love and connection,
we need to move inwards. So with
that intention, One World Academy was
formed. Now who taught you these
principles early on? How did you discover
these things? Were you
suffering a lot as a child and you were seeking
this or were you always brought up understanding these principles? Were you suffering a lot as a child when you were seeking this? Or were you always brought up
understanding these principles?
I was not
suffering as a child. My
parents have been wonderful to me.
They brought me up in a very beautiful way.
In fact, so much
so that they never even asked
what was my marks and my
grades or anything like that.
So I had wonderful parenting.
I'm lucky to be born in a spiritual family.
My father is a spiritual master in this country.
And got exposed to spirituality from the age of 12.
So I've been part of his work and what he has been doing.
And somewhere, I think, I would not say somewhere,
but I think throughout my life, I've always looked inwards for my happiness.
Yeah.
Yes.
How did you understand that? Was that your father or was that your...
Definitely my father did not particularly tell me to move inwards, but his teachings
have helped. But I have always told myself in those days from the age of 12, 13 onwards,
always felt that I should take responsibility if something went wrong.
So it was a very simple teaching,
but it definitely made me see the truth to some extent.
In the extent that I need to get better at this.
So I can't keep blaming and blaming and find fault with someone else
and go on this path of suffering and creating,
making the problem bigger.
So I always used to look inward and used to say, okay, next time there'll be a lot of
change brought to this problem, particular problem.
And I definitely would see my shortcomings, where I went wrong, I would.
And I would make those corrections.
Where I went wrong, I would.
And I would make those corrections.
Later on, as I grew, the insights became better.
And definitely the understanding became much more clearer that if you want to live a happy life,
the answers are the thing you are not, outside of you.
Who would you say is more influential for you growing up, mom or dad?
Dad.
What was the biggest lesson he taught you?
The biggest lesson he taught me was
life is here
to serve others.
Life is here to serve others.
And he said,
you will find tremendous fulfillment in spiritual work
because it's really helping people
and making them happier.
And I think that was
a very powerful seed
that he laid within me.
So, yeah.
What would you say is your superpower?
To live in a fantastic state most of the time.
That's your superpower?
That you live in a fantastic state?
Yeah.
Why do you think so many people struggle
in doing that when it seems like it's so simple?
Yes.
You know, it's so simple for you, it's so simple for your staff
and team
why do so many people suffer or struggle
in just feeling inner joy, inner peace
inner acceptance
we suffer for many reasons
one reason could be we are constantly
as I said earlier, looking for answers
outside of us, we want to blame
someone else for our happiness,
for our sadness,
for all the problems we
have in life. They don't do
something for you or they do something
against you. Then we put
the blame on someone else. Yes.
And then we're also searching for our joy
in someone else,
through someone else constantly. More material
things, right? More material things.
That's definitely one reason.
But I think there's only one path to joy,
one path to joy and to find happiness.
And that path is to look at the truth.
Not looking at the truth externally,
that, oh, he's bad, therefore I need to be careful
and strategize my way of speaking or be manipulative.
Or, this system is bad, so I need to understand
how to work around the system.
That's not the truth we are talking about.
We are talking about the truth that's about you.
So you need to see what is causing you to suffer.
Why are you suffering? And once is causing you the suffering why are you suffering
and once you can see the truth
then you have freedom
from it
and that truth is
all suffering arises from
obsessive self-centred thinking
so
inner suffering
so you are in a job
you get fired
that's the problem The problem is you got
fired and you need to find a new job. But we suffer. Why do we suffer? The first thing
is there is hurt. I got fired. Who is this guy to fire me? I did so much of hard work.
I was a fantastic guy. I was a great team player, but I still got fired. Well, now I
have a lifestyle. How am I to live the same
lifestyle if I don't find a job?
What am I going to go and tell my wife? What am I going
to go tell my parents? What am I going to go tell
my kids? So you have moved away
from the problem of finding another job
to yourself.
And that's where suffering
comes from. So I'll give you an interesting example.
There was this participant
from China and
he was here. And after he went back, he was diagnosed with cancer, level 3 or something.
And whole family are Vandana Academy students. So he probably was the most happiest cancer
patient because during his cancer, he could see as suffering arose all that he was
doing was he was thinking about himself what will happen to my kids when i die what's going to
happen to this wealth why did this happen to me why did this happen to me i worked so hard i've
been such a good man i've been such a good person to everyone why this to me why did god punish me
i have got i didn't do anything good for people.
I have been so much family oriented.
I have not really contributed.
I thought I will contribute at this particular age but I can't do that now.
So once he brought awareness to that
truth
where he is only thinking about himself
and actually moved away from treating his cancer
he became
free of his suffering.
And believe it or not as you become free of his suffering. And believe it or not, as you become
free of your suffering, your health improves. As you interstate, it becomes better, your
health actually improves. And definitely the family worked together to find a solution
for his external problem, which is cancer. And yes, they found the solution and he's
cured. But he said, I could handle my suffering very very very easily because it was all about me
so that's
where the answer is you need to see the truth
so okay if I see the truth I'm suffering
I'm upset I'm agonizing
the first step is
you should recognize that you're suffering
we have met many people who don't even want to
accept that they're suffering
so you need to bring awareness and observation to the fact that you are suffering.
Okay.
And then, but how do you end it?
You end it by looking at the truth.
The beauty is when you look at the truth, the freedom is automatic.
Really?
Yes.
So nothing else needs to happen.
Nothing else needs to happen.
You look at the truth, you see it, and realize that it's about me.
I'm suffering because of my obsessive, self-centric thinking.
Once I recognize that, then the suffering goes away.
Yes, because you clearly see that you're moved away from love,
you're moved away from connection,
you're moved away from courage,
you're moved away from vision,
you're passionate to yourself.
So you have moved away from also addressing your problems to yourself.
Then you are in the space of really answering the question,
what is important to me?
Am I going to keep suffering like this and obsessing about myself?
Or if I have a problem with my children or with my wife,
am I going to move to a beautiful state and address the problem?
Because I need to address it.
Because if I go on this path of suffering,
everything around me is going to get destroyed.
I feel like a lot of people inflict suffering on themselves,
whether through their beliefs, through religion, or through family stuff.
They feel like they have to suffer to live better in the afterlife,
or do something, or give back in some way.
What is that doing for us?
Why do we focus so much
on suffering when it only hurts us more and more and takes us away from joy?
Well, the first answer is we don't know how to come out of our suffering. That's the first
one. The second answer is we really do not have a stronger, deeper purpose for our relationships.
We need to find those answers.
And the third one is we need to look at the truth.
See, I was in London giving a talk when we started in 2009, 2010.
And there was this woman who stood up and asked me this question.
Krishnaji, I understand these two states and everything, but throughout my life,
I have been taught that if you suffer, from there your passion to get more in life or
achieve more in life
is easier
because now you have
learned a lot
you have suffered
now you are driven
or something
now you are driven
so I just
told her that
you just do not
have
you have just not
learned the art
of creating success
from a beautiful state
that's it
from inspiration as opposed to putting people wrong or trying to make yourself look good.
Yes, absolutely.
My entire childhood, I came from a place of proving people wrong, of creating to show that I was worthy enough of acceptance or love.
And it drove me to create.
I mean, I created everything I wanted.
But every time I would achieve the dream
or the goal or the vision,
it was like there was more suffering.
Afterwards, there was like this,
it was never complete.
It was never whole.
It was always like, what's next?
This wasn't good enough.
It wasn't the way I wanted it to be.
And I continued to be driven by this,
I guess, negative state by this I guess negative state
as opposed to negative state.
And it's
tricky because
you feel like, well,
I'm driven by this thing,
this emotion, and it's getting me what I want.
I'm achieving what I want. It's happening.
Things are happening. I'm making money.
I have access to things.
But at what cost?
A few years ago when I started on this journey and realized that I can come from inspiration,
I can come from a place of passion, a place of I'm already complete, and I want to create
this to make an impact in the world, it was so much more enjoyable.
The process was easier.
It wasn't hard.
It wasn't the stressful anxiousness.
If something didn't work out
I could move through it
with more peace
and I'm still able to create
and I feel like it's even more powerful
yes
much more powerful
there's like this spiritual vision
it's like fueling right
yes
so what's the importance
of a spiritual vision
and if we don't have one
what's going to happen to us
well if we don't have one we are going to suffer we don't have one, what's going to happen to us? Well, if we don't have one, we are going to suffer.
We don't have a spiritual vision.
Yes.
Because spiritual vision is all about living in a beautiful state and acting from that
beautiful state.
Addressing your problems from a beautiful state.
Not from a state of anger, not from a state of fear, insecurity, loneliness or depression.
But from a state of fear, insecurity, loneliness or depression. But from a state
of courage, passion,
connection.
So one needs to learn
to live in that state. That should become
the most important thing because
as I told earlier,
all experiences are happening within you.
It's our interpretation, right?
One, it's our interpretation.
Two, if you're suffering, there's only one interpretation.
It's about you.
Right.
But there's experiences happening in the external world.
Yes.
And we interpret it in a certain way internally.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
And it's either suffering experience or not suffering.
Yes.
And you are right.
But when suffering arises, you are right but when
suffering
arises
you stop
interpreting
outer world
you're only
thinking about
yourself
okay
but if
you're just
interpreting
the outer
world
without
suffering
then you
are probably
thinking about
how do I
solve this
problem
from a
strategy
point of
view
or just
from a
vision
perspective you're looking at how do I make this just better you're not suffering but you're just problem from a strategy point of view or just from a vision perspective.
You're looking at how do I make this
just better. You're not suffering but you're just
seeing it in a practical, pragmatic
way.
So
your spiritual vision I think is the most
important thing. If you do
not learn to live in a beautiful state
and learn to relate from that
state, you will not be
enjoying any of your relationships, be it your kids, your wife, your work, your profession
and yourself.
How do we cultivate that on a daily basis besides being aware of, we're not suffering
but how do we just stay in that and cultivate it?
There are definitely certain meditations that we offer which you can practice on a daily basis.
Those will help cultivate a beautiful state.
Why is meditation so powerful?
Meditation is powerful because meditation becomes powerful when you apply wisdom.
See, meditation should go along with wisdom.
So not just meditating to meditate and not understanding why.
Yeah, not understanding why.
But understanding why you're meditating
yeah
okay
you have to
there has to be a purpose
for meditation
and that purpose
must have
the right path
then you're meditating
in the right way
otherwise meditation
by itself
has no purpose
it might make you
just feel good
but you don't have
achieved anything
might help for a few hours
a few hours
or a few minutes
what would you say is your spiritual vision my spiritual vision has always been good but you don't have achieved anything. It might help for a few hours, but a few hours or a few minutes.
What would you say is your spiritual vision?
My spiritual vision has always been to live in a beautiful,
powerful state.
And address my challenges
and
my vision in every aspect
of my life from that state.
That's my spiritual vision.
What would you say is your external vision?
My external vision,
I have
quite a few visions for my
life, for my family,
for my businesses and the spiritual work I do.
But coming to One World Academy
to really
give people liberative
wisdom and powerful
direct experiences
that can
completely
transform them
as a human
being
and revolutionize
the way they
think
and the way
they live
their life
and the way
they relate
with every
aspect of
their life
how does
this wisdom
apply for
business
because you've
built a number
of successful
businesses
you've done
very well
financially
how do you apply this mindset and this way of being in all of your relationships because you've built a number of successful businesses, you've done very well financially.
How do you apply this mindset and this way of being in all of your relationships in the business?
Because there's a lot of entrepreneurs watching.
Yes.
And what if you're like, well, this is just for your relationships,
your family and your intimate relationships,
but can this really be helpful for my career, my business?
Yes.
I have interacted with many business people
and one of the strong emotions that they work from
is competitiveness.
They constantly compete with somebody else.
Competitiveness.
Competitiveness, yeah.
So I was in a meeting with one guy here in India
who's a very big business person.
And I was asking him,
what's the vision and what's the purpose?
And he was telling me,
I want to become better than that guy.
I want to do things better than that person.
I want to get those projects.
Then I told him,
I don't think that's going to work
because that guy is good at what he's doing.
So you need to find what you are good at
and what you really love doing.
Then I think you'll be far more successful.
So I think it's very important, number one, to find what the vision is.
And number two, not to go about achieving that vision from a place of fear.
See, we are constantly, most business people want to achieve from a space of fear.
And after achieving, they don't want to lose what they've achieved against fear.
So there's definitely no enjoyment in this entire path.
So I have done it from a beautiful state.
If there's a challenge, because I can differentiate challenge and suffering,
I address it.
I see that suffering is about me.
And once I'm out of my suffering,
there is immense clarity and power to address the challenge,
whatever the challenge might be.
Because now you're seeing challenge as a challenge.
You are not part of that.
So then there's tremendous clarity to address those problems.
Unfortunately, we make it too much about ourselves.
We make it too much about our image.
We make it too much about what people are constantly thinking about us.
So if you bring awareness and if you start looking at the truth,
then you will actually see that 70% or 80% of the time,
you are spending thinking about yourself rather than your business.
Do you ever get in that space where you're getting competitive
or comparing yourself to someone else in business, in your industry?
Or do you ever do?
I would say not much.
Okay.
Not much.
I'm very, very clear about what I want to do.
I'm very clear about how my projects must look.
And I'm very, very clear about what is the team I want,
what are the kind of people that needs to work with me.
And if there's too much competition,
I'm okay with letting it go
and I know that there'll be a bigger opportunity
coming my way next time.
What if something doesn't work out the way you want it to be?
You have this vision of,
I want these people to do these things
and then it doesn't work out.
How do you react?
I do get upset.
You do get upset?
Yeah, I do get upset and a little frustrated. Because most
of the time, at least
here, it's because of the systems.
There are so many things that need to
go together to make
your project successful.
And
sometimes systems break down.
So you know that you did your best
and systems break down.. Again if you enter into
suffering apply the teaching. So I see the problem and for the next project we
make sure that we first correct the systems and then go ahead with the project.
So whenever you recognize you're in a breakdown, what's your process? If I recognize the
external problem which is breaking down.
Then you feel like a reaction in some way.
I don't react.
You don't react.
I don't react.
Never.
Never.
But you get frustrated sometimes.
I do get frustrated, yes.
But I do get frustrated.
I do get angry.
I do get hurt.
All these are emotions.
That things did not go according to my plan.
Things did not work out the way it had to go.
All that really hurts.
But that's being human, right?
Yeah.
But I think...
You're human?
Absolutely.
But I think once you have the spiritual vision,
which is the most important thing,
is to live in a beautiful state.
And once you live there, there's tremendous
intelligence and clarity that comes.
You move there.
You move there and
what answers do you not have yet?
What answers
do I have not? In which sphere
of my life? You're talking spirituality, business?
In spirituality.
Is there an answer that you're still,
is there a question you're seeking?
Because you've been seeking for a long time.
You've got this curriculum.
You've got this material.
You've got the truth.
But what's missing?
Is there something that's inside of you that's like, I don't know the answer?
No.
You know the answer to everything.
Yes.
Why do you think you're here?
I'm here to do this work. I'm here to be a loving husband and a loving father, a loving son, and definitely a loving friend to many of my friends.
And I'm here to definitely create a difference to the world.
Do you think everyone has that same purpose?
I don't know.
I would not like to make that into an ideal.
That everyone has a purpose.
How do you know that's your purpose?
Or when did you discover that?
I knew, I think, probably from the age of 14, 15.
That I'm
definitely here
for doing
something great
and I want
to do it.
It's not
like,
I'll put it
this way,
I'll put it
that way.
It's my
decision,
it's my
right action
that I want
to do this.
You also
forced?
No,
I don't feel
forced.
It's not
like I had
a revelation
and someone came into my dream and told me this is your room. It's not like I had a revelation and someone came into my dream
and told me this is your room.
It's not like that.
It's something that I have discovered.
It's organic.
It's organic.
So that's total clarity.
It's something that I found within me.
It's not something that's given to me.
What about all the people
that have religious beliefs?
Because you grew up religiously, right?
Your father is religious, would you say?
Yes.
My father is not religious.
My father's work is spiritual, but the work is centered around God-realization.
Around God?
God-realization.
Realization.
So that way it is religious.
Gotcha.
Okay. And this work is not Realization. So that way it is religious. Gotcha.
Okay.
And this work is not related around God in any way?
In the sense, I think for us, the topic on God has been addressed over thousands of years.
And I think there are many, many people who are talking about that. And for us, I think we have found the answers for a beautiful state, for a transcendental state, and the enlightened state, all these
powerful states, through spirituality. And spirituality is different from religion.
What's your definition of that?
Spirituality is moving inwards. You are looking for your happiness, for answers for your suffering within you.
Religion is where you are moving outwards. You are suffering, you want to go and pray, and you want someone else to take care of your suffering.
Who is far more powerful than you? So spirituality is moving inwards, religion is moving outwards. So, both are fine. There's nothing superior, nothing inferior.
But we have chosen this path.
You're not against religion, you're not against people believing in God.
We are only against one thing. We are only against suffering.
So, if someone believes in religion or a god or thousands of gods and it brings them relief
or brings them a beautiful state,
then that's what you want them to focus on.
That's what they can focus on.
Right. Right.
You just don't think that's your truth.
I just don't think that it's a very effective way.
To put your attention
on a being or
a god
to give you
a beautiful state, why is that not effective?
Well, I should ask you that question
because if you have done that, have you found peace and happiness?
If you're a believer in God.
I don't know if some people have or not.
So most of them have told me
I don't know.
When most people come in here and do work with you,
is that their belief usually?
They believe in God?
Many of them, yes, they believe in God.
But we have made it very clear that I personally feel that you can go to God and you can pray for the problems.
Most of us go and pray for the problems.
We want to become financially successful or we want our health to become better.
successful or we want our health to become better or in India people go for my kid must get a good must get married well must study well must go to America for higher education so I think for
miracles definitely I think that path is an excellent path but if you want to learn grow
and transform then I think you should take the spiritual path.
What's the thing that people suffer around the most that you've seen in the last 10 years doing this work?
What's the common theme?
Common theme.
Interesting question.
No one has asked me this.
Well, you've never been on the School of Greatness.
Yes, and I'm loving it.
The common theme
will be
I would say
lack of vision
definitely
most different
between
is vision and purpose
similar or
yeah they're similar
but
you know
when we use the word
vision and purpose
we always try to make it
very big
and I always tell people
it's not about
bigness
it could be purpose
in a relationship with your partner
or even with your kids.
So I think we find people don't
have that vision.
People have kids but they don't know
why they're having kids. People get into a relationship
and they don't want to get into a relationship.
And they suffer.
So vision, would you say, is the most important
first step
in terms of like an action
plan of having absolutely yes it's without vision you're just wandering in the universe
asking why am i here what's the point of this spiritual vision i would say is the first step
spiritual vision that is the mistake and that's your way of being so how do i want to be in the
world that should be the second step that's's the second step. The first step is
spiritual vision.
Because you need to first
learn to become
free of your fears,
your insecurity,
your lack of connection.
These are the things
that you should become
first free of.
Because that holds us back.
Yes.
And then,
who do I want to be
in the world?
Are we a being, right?
Yes, absolutely.
I want to be loving,
I want to be passionate,
I want to be...
Yes, I want to do this.
Gotcha. Okay, gotcha. And then would you say the end, right? Yes, absolutely. I want to be loving, I want to be passionate. Yes, I want to do this. Gotcha.
Okay, gotcha.
And then would you say the external vision afterwards?
Yes, absolutely.
Okay.
And then goals and strategizing.
Yes.
Making sure whom do you want to be a team member, where do you go find your finances,
how do you want to raise your money.
Yeah, the whole plan works out there
how would you say if someone says I have no clue what I want to create in the world
I have no clue, I don't know what I'm passionate about
or I like
everything, how do I
get my focus on the one thing
what would you say to someone like that
I think
they should
as I told you earlier
if you're constantly going to tell people
that you should find some vision
that's transforming
the world or transforming the country
then it's going to be very difficult
all 7.5 billion people
it's a lot of pressure
start smaller
start smaller
I think
that's very important because
small changes can actually make
big changes.
We don't see that. So I think small changes
are very, very important. What's the
point of me doing this work if I'm
not having a vision for my daughter
and for my family and for my business?
It's really not worth it.
And at the same time
we cannot say that that's small
you are creating
the next generation
who are going to
take care of this world
so
that's very important
so
I think we should
I think
all of us together
should work on
changing this perception
we are somehow
constantly telling the world
find this big thing
find this big thing
and all these guys
are not able to find it
and they are suffering
and you can't do this yeah so I think first let them do the smaller things world find this big thing, find this big thing and all these guys are not able to find it and they are suffering.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think first let them do the smaller things which are also very, very important. Again,
saying them small is wrong. They are big
things. Your partner is a big thing.
Your child is a big thing. Your business is
a big thing. Your family is a big thing.
Your parents are big.
All these are big things. This is what makes you
who you are. So first we need to address these things and define happiness here.
A lot of your staff lives a particular lifestyle. Yes. Right? A monk lifestyle? Yes.
But you don't, correct? Yes. Why is that? They made their choice, I made my choice.
Do you feel that because you're married, you have a child,
you have all these other businesses,
all these other types of relationships that could be messier,
do you feel like it's harder for you to stay spiritually grounded
because you have a lot of moving parts in your life?
No, it's very easy.
It's very easy?
Yeah.
Why is that?
Because spirituality is all about looking inwards and finding your beautiful state
So I'm not running to some 10 pilgrimage centers to find my happiness. I'm very busy traveling and
Doing stuff, attending programs here, attending programs there and doing, going meeting this person, that person. I'm not doing that
so I have a lot of time to spend with my family and here, attending programs there, and going meeting this person, that person. I'm not doing that.
So I have a lot of time to spend with my family and
with myself.
What do you feel like holds you
back right now? Is there anything that's
missing for you or that
personally, or that keeps
you from
being the person or achieving the thing you
want right now?
On the spiritual side, really nothing.
On the business side, I think I definitely have to
get to know a lot more of what's happening in the world.
I'm just so stuck in this work right now.
So I'm losing out a little bit there.
So I just need to, I think, work a lot more to get that going.
I would say that's not disturbing me,
but I know that that's an area where I need to somehow find time
and pay more attention there so that I can keep up speed.
It's changing so much.
What would you say is the question you get the most?
And just to put this in the context before you answer, you get, you know, a lot of big
business executives come here, CEOs of major companies.
Tony Robbins has been here before.
We have people from all over the world that come here and the group that I was in, I think
there was like seven or eight different countries and just 20 of us.
Leaders. We're talking about 20 of us. Yes. Leaders.
We're talking about big leaders here.
Yes.
But also people that are just figuring things out.
So you have a wide spectrum.
Yes.
It seems like more leaders come than not.
Yes.
So what would you say is the biggest question, the most frequent question?
For leaders, the most frequent question has been, they are actually in a space of seeking. Some of them are moved to a place of seeking, like why am I here?
For some of them it's been relationships, relationship at home, relationship with parents.
So different things.
I would say each would fall equally in its basket.
Why are relationships so challenging for people?
It's so challenging because we're all different.
Yeah.
I'm not you and you're not me.
Why it seems like now more than ever, marriages are so challenging.
They're facing a lot of challenges.
You know, 50% divorce rate in the US.
I'm not sure what it's like here in India.
But why do we, is it because we're so focused on ourself?
Or is it because there's so many options and we think we deserve something better?
Is it combination of things?
I think all these are true, but they're only true at a certain level.
The real truth is there's no spiritual vision.
With the relationship?
With the relationship.
And again, they're trying to find answers externally.
So you think by changing the person you will find your happiness.
So how do you know if it's
the right fit then?
Well, that's something practical.
You can be pragmatic about it. If someone is
using abusive language or
being physically abusive with you, you just need to make
a practical decision that this is not
working. But in spiritual division, most
relationships don't have that. Most.
What would you advise if a couple was sitting
right in front of you saying,
you know, we're struggling right now
and you said, okay, you need to
have a spiritual vision, what would you say
they need to focus on? How do they create that
together, individually or together?
They can do
it individually. They can also do it together.
But I think
they need to understand
and ask this question
what's the foundation for the relationship
so many discover
it's money, it's power, it's beauty
it's many other things
and as those fade away or
as those are personal
your relationship changes, your equation changes
so you need to see the truth
what would you say is the most relationship changes, your integration changes. So you need to see the truth.
What would you say is the most profound,
enlightened, or transcendental experience you've ever had?
What happens? For how long?
What was the journey?
Nothing's too weird.
Yes.
I think the most profound I would say the one I had is me not existing.
So yeah, I became one with everything around me. The universe. Yeah, so it became one with everything around me.
The universe?
Yeah, everything.
What does that mean? What does it feel like?
The feeling is you don't exist.
You are not there.
Your body or your mind?
Your both. You are everywhere.
Really?
Yeah.
How long did I last for?
I would say I've had it
many times
really?
so
just wake up in the
morning and
put on a switch
you're everywhere
but
I would say
at least
7-8 minutes
that's been
maximum
sometimes
how do you get
into that space
personally? I get into that space personally
I get into it when I'm meditating
what do you
that's the secret
meditation, can you get into it when you're not meditating
yes
what do you notice
when you are everywhere
I notice that
we are actually just
a process
the universe is a process
the universe is a process and you are a small process
you are a small process
what's the point of the process
from the perspective
from the context of the process? From the perspective of the, from the context of the universe?
Sure.
I don't know.
But from the context of our life, to do something good and to live in a beautiful state.
Why do you think that's our purpose? To do something good?
More than to do something good, to live in a beautiful state, state I would say is a deeper and a much bigger purpose
why not live in a negative state
and break everything down
what if that's our purpose
well all of us are constantly
searching for happiness, peace and love
so definitely we know
that we cannot live in these negative states
and we want to become free of these
negative states.
Right.
And I always tell them that there are only two states of being, either a suffering state
or a no suffering state.
So if these are the only states, if these are the only two states we experience our
life from, then the most important question in life is which state do you want to live
in?
And everyone knows the answers.
A beautiful state.
What's your
point of view of ideals?
I know certain people talk about having, you need to have
a set of ideals to live by.
Do you believe in ideals?
What's the purpose of them?
I think
ideals are good up to a point.
So, because it definitely gives I think ideals are good up to a point. So because
it definitely
gives you direction
to be a good person or to do good things.
But you're just doing.
You're not being.
So ideals never make you
be.
It only makes you do.
And beyond a point, they become a burden because you're
something else within and you're trying to be something else outside and that's
when you completely break it down so you break down and everything breaks down
so now your ideas break down everything breaks down so you try to be this nice
husband nice husband and on fine day you're this worst husband and then what
right and you're questioning everything right and questioning the ideal and on fine day you are the worst husband. And then what? Exactly.
Right.
And then you're questioning.
And then you're questioning the ideal and then questioning all that you believed in.
So it's exhausting.
It's totally exhausting because it is not your truth.
It is someone else's truth.
But what you think your truth should be, right?
Yes, exactly.
And you also want the other person to believe in the same truth.
So you believe that you have to be a good husband and you believe believe your wife has to be a good wife, then you believe your children
have to be good children. Whereas all of us are different human beings, we're all different.
So they're okay to up to a point, but it's not about what you're doing, it's about who
you are, and that's where the beautiful state comes in.
Who would you say is your greatest teacher?
It will
sound a little arrogant,
but the truth is
myself
and life, I would say.
Is there
anyone else who's been a great teacher for you
besides yourself? My dad.
What's his name?
My dad's name is Sri Bhagavan.
And he runs a center as well, right?
Yes.
A spiritual center here in India.
Yes.
It's very popular.
Very big.
It's been around for 25 years.
30 years.
30 years.
Yeah.
There's thousands of people every week or what is it?
Thousands, yeah.
Thousands every week.
Every week.
Wow.
Why did you
not want to
go take that
over or be
part of that?
I am
definitely part
of it in the
sense I am
the one who
built it up.
Because you
were there at
the beginning,
right?
I was there.
Your experience,
I heard from
Krishna Raj that
your experience,
because you
guys were in
the school,
that he
started,
you started having these
experiences. Yes.
Other kids started having spiritual experiences.
I think one of the
biggest reasons
the oneness
movement grew is
through a very
divine process or spiritual
process called the oneness blessing
or the oneness tiksha, which many people around the world practice and that phenomenon began
to me I was the first one to transfer that real to someone else here so at the age of 12
so in that way I played a very big role on the spiritual side split sheets. Tell me what happened.
It's Lewis.
What was the experience?
So your experience is what created this foundation for transformation around the world is what I'm hearing.
Yes.
Okay, so let's hear it.
It was an experience where I had a very, I can call it a divine being with whom I could
communicate with in my heart.
And slowly the divine being turned into this beautiful golden ball and then I could actually
transfer this to someone else.
What were you transferring?
When we were transferring it, it was basically told that you can come in touch with your
God and you can come in touch with your divine.
So it's more like an intent.
So people used to have... An intent?
There is an intent, yeah.
So people used to have and see their divinity,
the divine they believed in within themselves.
And they could communicate, they could talk.
So they had this
personal God that
they could be communion with.
So that's the phenomenon
that began.
So it happened first with you.
Yes.
And how was that experience, how was it facilitated?
Was your dad a part of that experience?
Absolutely, yes.
So he facilitated this or was it just organic?
It was organic.
It was organic and it was my dad's decision to tell me that I think you should now see if you can transfer this to someone else.
And who was the first person who transferred it to?
It was to Samudar Shemini, who is one of the senior faculty here.
And the second one was Anand Vigri,
who is also a senior faculty member.
What was their experience like?
You should ask them.
Okay, I will later.
And so based on that, your dad decided,
hey, I want to start, this is what I'm going to be doing?
No, his work started much before that.
This was a phenomenon that just began along with what my dad was doing. His work began as courses. See, my father here in this country is seen as someone to whom they can pray and their problems can be solved, miracles can happen.
pray and their problems can be solved.
Miracles can happen. And also there are powerful teachings along with
that process. So that's how the work
began. But
then this phenomenon is called the
oneness blessing or the teacher.
This phenomenon just
made sure that everything
happened much faster.
So I could transfer it to
you and then you had the power to
transfer it to somebody else. And the the power to transfer it to somebody else.
And the benefits were health, it was relationships, clarity.
And many beautiful mystical, spiritual experiences.
Powerful experiences.
What's been the greatest miracle or recovery you've seen from anyone you've been working with?
In terms of transformation you're asking?
Transformation.
Oh, all of them.
All of them. I would not pick anyone particularly.
Do you ever get surprised by any transformations?
Surprised? No. Because I know exactly that's what I want. surprised by any transformations?
Surprised? No.
Because I know exactly that's what I want.
So I don't get surprised.
Is there any question that you wish
people would ask you that they don't ask?
I have not thought about it.
I have not thought about it.
But from a forces perspective, I definitely I have not thought about it.
But from force's perspective, I definitely would love to teach people many wonderful
realizations and teachings that have given me freedom.
But that needs for someone to become a seeker.
It needs for someone to ask more deeper questions and more important questions.
I would like people to get to that place so that I can help them with ultimate freedom.
What are three questions everyone should ask?
What are three questions?
What are three questions everyone should be asking themselves?
No matter what stage of life they're at.
Okay.
I would say definitely number one is,
why am I doing what I'm doing?
Number two is
how do I find my happiness?
And how do I be in this joyful state?
And number three would be
how do I find the spiritual wish
for each and every aspect of my life?
Great three questions.
Should we have a book on those questions?
Sure.
You should.
What's something you've done
that a lot of people don't know about you
that you're really proud of?
I would say one would look at me.
Yeah.
You're small. You're growing.
Yeah.
Final few questions.
Before I ask
them, is there any questions you Before I ask them,
is there any questions you want to ask me?
Yes, definitely.
You don't have to.
I want to.
You're doing amazing work
and I love what you're doing.
More than that, I love you as a human being.
You're a very wonderful person.
And you have come here, you have learned a lot. And there has been definitely growth and transformation.
So from your perspective, what do you think your listeners and people in the world should do
to understand our work better and, one, understand our work better,
and two, really really the teachings that you
have learned what should they understand what should they understand and so what is it that
you want i think i think uh people need to simplify their lives okay i think we create
too much complexity in our minds okay the way we think things should look or how things should be
um and we are constantly in an analytical
mindset. We're prisoners of this analytical mind where we constantly think and question
things over and over and just run in the same place. As opposed to being calm, peaceful
and joyful and just moving forward.
So why should one be calm?
I think people mean because it's freeing.
It's freeing and it's more fun.
Whenever I'm around people that are constantly in their head,
they're analytical, they're questioning everything,
they can't make a decision on something.
It looks hard.
It looks exhausting to me.
It's like they're tight in their body because they're tight in the mind.
So for me, I like to keep things
as simple as possible. I think you guys do
a great job of breaking things down in simple
ways. You're either in a suffering state or
a non-suffering state. Which one do you want
to be in? Yes. Okay, let's
move into a non-suffering state. Here's how
to do it. Here's the practices. Here's what you can do
on a daily basis. Here's the routines.
And here's the truth that you need to have.
Now, build from a spiritual vision and move forward in your life.
Challenges are going to come up, they're going to arise,
but if you stay grounded in your spiritual vision and you always come back to that,
then you can move through it easier.
And I think it comes down to being as simple as that.
But people complicate things so much.
simple as that.
But people complicate things so much.
I think sometimes,
I mean, we may not always have the answers to certain things.
I asked you a
question the other day and
you gave me an answer, but it's probably
a lot more of a process to go through to really
understand some of these answers.
And so,
I think some things we need to be okay
with.
A certain level of not knowing for sure everything.
Yes.
But being okay with it.
Absolutely, yes. Correct.
And living from a place of love, joy, and passion.
Because we're here, and miles will make the most of it.
So, I think that's what it is. And I think if people rid themselves of their analytical mind that imprisons them in their body,
there's just bars around their body that they can't get out.
It's exhausting.
It sucks to be around.
It's not fun to be around those individuals, and you want to support them.
So I would say listen to this again
and
come to a workshop
in the US or anywhere in the world
or come here to experience it for yourself
because it's very profound
so that's what I would say
and why do you think people make
their life complicated?
I don't think they know any other way
I think they were
raised probably seeing it complicated they feel like maybe with their peers you know there's a
competition especially in the u.s it's like who's busier who's more stressed out it's like one-upping
someone based on your level of stress okay i think um they're not present to the fact that I don't need to be that way so you're aware so what you're
saying is they're constantly trying to be somebody else or they're trying to be well they don't feel
like they're good enough like they're whole enough already so they're searching or trying to create
something to prove that they're good enough so how do they know that they're not good enough
because they're looking at someone and they're judging themselves that they're not good enough? Because they're looking at someone and then judging themselves? Yes, so they're being made fun of or they're not getting the attention or love they want
or they're not getting the acknowledgement they want.
So the search is outside.
Outside.
Got it.
I think acknowledgement is a big thing.
If we're constantly seeking for acknowledgement from the outside, then we're never going to
be happy.
By doing nothing?
What's that? By doing nothing? By doing nothing? What's that? By doing nothing?
By doing nothing? Are people seeking
acknowledgement by doing nothing? Oh,
I hope not. I'm sure they are.
Yeah, I'm sure they are. That's an important
truth one must see. What's that?
That acknowledgement will come automatically
if you're doing something. Yeah, if you're doing something good.
And you've been talking about it in the beginning,
like, you know, in this
minute, I just finished, know in this minute I just finished
for those watching I just finished a
meditation instructor training
and one of the vows
that you taught us in the beginning
three vows I'm going to forget the first two
but one of them is to not
go into the practice of
serving others
to receive acknowledgement
because then it's not going to be a heartfelt connection or interaction.
It's going to feel a disconnect.
And so I think when we come from a place of,
I'm going to make an impact because I want to get this acknowledgement,
because I want to win the award,
because I want to win people bowing to me in their own metaphorical way,
it's going to feel exhausting and still focusing on the self.
Yeah. So I think it's going to feel exhausting. It's still focusing on the self. There's no spiritual vision.
Yeah.
So I think it's removing,
like it's nice to get acknowledgement.
I like it.
I'm sure you like it.
Yes.
But if that's our focus,
there's going to be suffering.
Yes.
Because when we don't get it,
we're going to have an expectation
that's not met.
Yes.
So.
And,
and also, and also the truth is you're not working for the sake
of the birth but for the acknowledgement for yourself and then that becomes like a vicious cycle and you suffer more and then what happens is even if people truly acknowledge that's never enough. You need more, right? Yes.
Any other questions for me?
You don't have to.
Why do you think living in a beautiful state is important from a perspective of day-to-day life?
For a number of reasons.
One, health-wise.
I'm not living in a beautiful state.
I feel it emotionally, internally.
I feel it affects my health, my physical
health, my sleep hurts,
my body aches
over time. I get exhausted.
So that's number one.
It frees me
of that physical pain. Number two is
I think it's important because
I believe we're all here to be symbols
of inspiration.
Were there symbols of inspiration or symbols of something negative?
And I look at myself as I want to be a symbol that anyone that I come into contact with,
it doesn't matter if I'm in Delhi, in the spice market, walking down the street,
the Uber driver who's driving me to the spice market,
I was constantly coming from a place of joy,
a place of curiosity, a place of interest,
a place of trying to transfer positivity
to someone else's life.
When I was walking down the street,
I was interacting with people in a joyful way.
And I feel like it's my mission to be that symbol.
And it's all of our missions to be a symbol of That's simple. All of our missions should be to be a symbol of inspiration,
to spread joy and positivity
because the other is
a negative state that brings suffering
and pain.
And you're doing it beautifully.
Thank you.
I told you that being a
very wonderful person,
that's more important for us.
The thing is, I think people also want to feel like they're very smart and intelligent.
Yes.
And so they're constantly driven to learn more and to feel like they're adequate enough in relationships or in the world.
And I remember early on, I never felt like I was smart because I couldn't study well in school.
Okay.
But I feel like I learned a new superpower. I was like, well, as long as I can transfer positivity, then it doesn't matter. I
don't need to be smart. You know what I mean? So I think being a good human being and having
a positive energy is more important than how much you know. Absolutely. If you're negative
with your intelligence. Absolutely. Don't you have anything on that. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else?
These are not even good,
so I'm on my show.
What was your most
impactful experience here?
I would say
my time with Krishna Raj.
Wonderful.
Yeah.
I would say I was,
I got sick,
even something in Delhi
or who knows what happened,
but I got sick for three days. And being in another country, you know, being away from
my bed, being away from home, a million people, things like that. I was like, this is the
last thing I want right now. You know, I spent all my time to come here. I want to learn
something now. You know what I mean? And now I'm taken away from my experience, from my group and the lessons.
And, you know, Krishna Raj was there.
And he was just so calm and loving
and his
attention to detail
and his level of commitment to me
for a stranger
and his level of love
and giving and service
was so
thoughtful.
And it just shows me, it was more of a, you know, I learned so much through the experiences.
I learned so much through the meditations, the wisdom, our interaction.
You know, I'm constantly learning.
But I think it's those simple reminders that it doesn't matter who someone is in the world.
That we're all connected. It's those simple reminders that it doesn't matter who someone is in the world. Yes.
That we're all connected.
Yes. And we can all experience someone else's pain or suffering or what they're going through.
We can all have the opportunity to relate.
Yes.
And him being there for me, I mean, everyone was there for me, but him being there for
me, I felt like made it an easier process to move through.
So I could have suffered a lot longer or not.
He was there to support me.
So I think that was,
that's what's coming up for me right now.
Wonderful.
But in terms of the teaching,
you know,
this,
the meditation and structure training has been extremely powerful and
understanding the principles of modern day science,
um,
spiritual meditation practices,
and body movement and alignment.
And when you put all three together
to put yourself through a practice of meditation,
the incredible benefits that will support
your mental health, your emotional health,
and your physical health, and your spiritual health.
And by having
a meditation practice where we understand
why all elements
work in unison,
not just doing them to have emotions,
but actually understanding
the thinking, the science,
the
biomechanics behind every
moment of movement,
it's so profound in understanding it for me.
So now having that wisdom,
having those tools that I can teach other people,
for me, that's the reason why I'm going to come,
is to have that understanding.
Because I've been meditating for years,
but when I see the benefits,
I didn't fully understand it at a deeper level.
So I think that was pretty profound.
And also you attended
the field of transformation
that was here.
What is your big takeaway?
Well, I missed like
three days of that.
But the big takeaway was
there's different teachings
about the wisdom
that you guys have
and you put us through
different experiences,
different exercises.
And I think I've been through different experiences, different exercises. And I think
I've been through different workshops
where they have teaching and exercises
and that's what creates transformation.
For me, that's what's created transformation for me in the past.
Because you can't just sit there
and be lectured or taught
something and have a transformation.
You have to understand it and then you have to
go through an experience to move through
the suffering, the pain, and the hurts.
And I believe that's really the only way, that's the most impactful way to transform.
So there's lots of different workshops out there that teach similar stuff, but not at this level of understanding, of spiritual understanding.
Not religious, but spiritual understanding.
And I think this is probably the most profound experience.
I wish I would have done this probably like three or four years ago.
I did something else that was, again, similar in terms of teaching and experience,
experiential learning, which was the most profound thing for me at the time,
which rid me of a lot of my suffering.
So I think it would have been even more profound going through like a spiritual understanding.
It's definitely a must
attempt
thank you
anything else?
final few questions
what are you most grateful for recently?
see I don't make
being grateful into some kind of a
practice or an ideal in it
so once you learn to live in a beautiful
state, you are automatically grateful for things. So unfortunately today, grateful and
being gratitude has become some kind of a practice because most of the time we live
in a negative state. So I am grateful for everything. There is nothing particular that
I am grateful for.
You are always grateful.
It's not even a grateful you.
It is, yeah, it is, I think,
out of many emotions,
it's one small emotion.
It's one important one that takes its place.
It's not like the emotional state
that you have to be in.
But, yeah, but
unfortunately, it's also becoming an ideal.
You must feel grateful. You must an ideal. You must feel grateful.
You must feel gratitude.
You must feel grateful.
Feeling gratitude must be something that must become natural.
It should not be a practice.
It should not be a forced thing.
It should not be a forced thing.
It should be an automatic.
Because you have this paradox, right?
In one particular view, you're looking at everyone and blaming everyone for your suffering.
And then to the same person you want to feel grateful.
So it's
a paradoxical thought.
You need to understand are you really being grateful
or just trying to be grateful so that you can
feel nice about it.
That's why the state is very important.
You need to learn to live
in that state.
Okay, this is called the three truths.
Okay.
So, if it's the last day for you many, many years from now.
Many, many years from now.
Many, many years from now is your last day.
Okay.
How will I know it's my last day?
You know.
Okay.
You know.
It's time.
Okay.
You're 100 and something or however old you are, it's time. Okay. So, together we'll spend the time. You're 100 and something or however old you are. It's time.
Okay, so together we'll spend that time.
You've written many books. You've had tens of thousands or whoever many people come through this.
You've built businesses beyond your wildest dreams. You've done everything you wanted.
The family, everything you had has happened according to your plan. And
your friends and family are there
at the last moment
and they want to know, you know, you've created
so much, you have so much wisdom, so much
teaching, so much knowledge.
If you could boil it down to three simple
truths, and this
is all we would have to remember
you by. This would be your
teaching to the world, written on three simple truths. A piece of paper, nothing else we would have to remember you by. This would be your teaching to the world, written
on three simple truths.
A piece of paper, nothing else we would have.
What would you boil it down to?
Living in powerful
spiritual states, which
are beautiful states,
transcendental states,
and enlightened states.
Number two will be
to
always look at the truth
that all suffering arises
from obsessive-sensitivity thinking
and that if you want to find
joy, if you want to find peace
love, passion, courage
you have to look within you
you have to
learn to dissolve your suffering and become free of your suffering the answer look within you. You have to learn to dissolve your suffering
and become free of your suffering.
The answer is within you
and not outside of you.
And number three will be
to have a spiritual vision
for your life.
Yeah.
Those are good.
Those are good.
Thank you.
Before I ask the final question,
I want to acknowledge you for a moment,
Krishnaji,
for your incredible vision, for your spiritual vision,
for your guidance to so many people, for bringing your vision to life
and creating this work for so many people, including myself,
to learn, grow, transform, rid ourselves of suffering and pain,
unnecessary suffering that we don't need to live in.
Yes.
You are an incredible symbol of inspiration
for so many people
thank you
thank you so much
and a pleasure talking to you
and a joy relating to you
yes
everyone can go to oneworldacademy.com
check out more information
there's also workshops
around the world, we'll be doing a number of them next year
how many of them?
at least 40 to 50
that'll be on oneworldacademy.com
there'll be information about the workshop in your city
we'll be hosting one in LA soon
so I'll send you guys the information about that
anything else
that people should know about
where to go and connect with you or the work
I think the website is a good place and Facebook Anything else that people should know about where to go and connect with you or the work?
I think website is a good place.
Website?
And Facebook.
Facebook, yeah.
Slash one one academy.
One one academy.
Okay, perfect.
Final question is what's your definition of greatness?
My definition of greatness will be two things coming together.
One is your internal state of being are you the person
you are
that you are talking to others about
if you are
communicating about love
if you are communicating about
being courageous
if you are communicating about being passionate
are you the person
who is living in that state
and if you are that person and if you are living in that state? And if you are that person, and if you are living
in that state, if you've learned to live in that state,
then you're truly great.
Because then you are giving people
that is true to you.
Number two is actually
making it happen
as a reality for the other.
So it's both the internal and the external
coming together.
That's truly been great.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Namaste.
I hope you guys enjoyed this episode
as much as I enjoyed curating and facilitating it
while I was in India
and while I was going through my own process and experience.
So many things I learned
and so many things I'm still learning and processing and experiencing
as I develop my daily meditation practice from what I learned at One World Academy.
And if you guys are interested in learning more, make sure to check out oneworldacademy.com.
You can see more what it's about.
But I've been telling a lot of my close network, the different influencers in my network to
definitely go check it out. Again, they do workshops around the US and around the world at various times as
well. Little mini three-day workshops, which are extremely profound as well. But if you're not able
to go to India, then make sure to find a city closest to you. So check out oneworldacademy.com
to learn more. Again, if you enjoyed this and you feel like others should learn about the power of
creating a spiritual vision in your life and how to find true meaning and purpose in your life,
then please share this with your friends. LewisHowes.com slash 418. Guys, it's all about
coming from a place of beauty, of joy, of passion, of inspiration, of meaning and purpose.
And it's hard to live a meaningful life if we don't create our own spiritual vision and
we don't live from a beautiful state of being.
So start moving towards a beautiful mind and living in a beautiful mind and having that space where your thoughts
are beautiful and surrender all negative thoughts that may hold you back.
Surrender holding on to pain from other people.
Forgive.
Allow yourself to forgive and surrender the suffering inside of you.
You are so worth it.
You're worth more than pain and suffering.
You're worth more than despair.
You're worth more than frustration and anger and resentment.
I lived in it for many, many years and it's definitely not worth it.
You deserve so much more, but it's up to you to create that inner peace and that spiritual vision.
to create that inner peace and that spiritual vision.
So connect for a moment today with how you want to be in the world,
who you want to be, how you want to show up,
the purpose you're going to live in,
and the thing you want to leave behind
for everyone that knows who you are.
My name is Lewis Howes.
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