The School of Greatness - 506 Lilly Singh: Becoming Your Own Superhero Bawse

Episode Date: July 5, 2017

"There's very seldom right and wrong. There's more often different." - Lilly Singh If you enjoyed this episode, check out show notes, videos, and more at http://lewishowes.com/506

This is episode number 506 with number one New York Times best-selling author and YouTube sensation, Lilly Singh. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. Pablo Picasso said, every child is an artist. The problem is staying an artist when you grow up.

Pumped for our episode today with the one and only Lily Singh, who is a Canadian YouTube personality, vlogger, comedian, writer, actress, and number one New York Times bestselling author. She is better known by her YouTube username, Superwoman. Since beginning her channel in 2010, her videos have received almost 2 billion views, and she reached 11 million YouTube subscribers in January of 2017. And her channel is currently in one of the top 100 most subscribed channels on YouTube. And just recently, she was ranked first on the 2017 Forbes top 100 influencer list in the entertainment category.

100 influencer list in the entertainment category. This girl is a boss in every sense of the word, and I'm super pumped to have her here in studio to talk about everything. Some of the things we cover are how Lily overcame severe depression in college and what she did to overcome that, why being obsessed with excellence is actually a good thing. Why it's okay to be the dumbest person on your team. What Dwayne Johnson, aka The Rock, told Lily about sharing your money. Why YouTube is the best platform for actors to be making content on, and so much more. I asked Lily at the start, I said, I want this to be the best interview you've ever done, and for you to share things that you've never shared before, which I knew would be challenging because she shares so much about her life on her YouTube channel. And at the end, she actually said

that she shared some new things and that it was one of the best she's ever done. So I'm super pumped. I think you're going to get a lot out of this before we dive in. I want to give a shout out to our review of the week. This is from Rego B who said, I'm an immigrant. I came to this country with so many dreams and this podcast helps me every day to push harder to accomplish my dreams. Thank you, Louis, for everything you do. So Rego B, thank you for being the review of the week. And if you guys want a shot of being the fan and review of the week, then just go to the

podcast app or go to itunes.com slash greatness and leave a review over on iTunes right now. All right, guys, a big thank you again to our sponsors. And I am so pumped about this one. Lilly Singh, again, blew me away. So inspiring, so captivating. And she took over this interview with just such passion, inspiration and wisdom. You're going to learn a ton, so make sure to share this out with your friends. lewishouse.com slash 506. Tag me, at lewishouse, on Instagram and Twitter and social media. Make sure to tag Superwoman as well, Lilly Singh, to let her know what you thought while you're listening. So without further ado, let me introduce to you the one, the only, superwoman, Lilly Singh.

Welcome everyone back to the School of Greatness podcast. Very excited about our guest today. Lilly Singh is in the house. Good to see you. I am in the house. Thank you for having me. I am pumped. We have a mutual friend, Humble the Poet.

Shout out to Humble the Poet. Told me I had to get you on. I started researching more about you. I'd heard about you before. I'd seen photos of you in Lindsey Stirling and Cassie Hose. Love. And iJustine. They're always posting about you.

So I was like, I got to meet this girl. The sisterhood of YouTube, for sure. The unicorns. The unicorns. Yeah, yes. I know. They came to my premiere dressed as unicorns. I saw that.

I was like, that's pretty cool. That was the first time where I was like, do I have friends? I think I might have friends. Those are like super friends. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was nice. And I thought I would start out, I said, I asked Humble, I said, what's the thing that Lily is known for for you that maybe most people don't know? And he said, she's got super human strength, like literally super strong. She can lift things. See, when you said strength, I thought you meant like mentally strong. I was like, oh, that's so sweet. But the

physically strong, I'm like even more flattered. So here's what he said. He said we need to do an arm wrestling contest. Oh, okay. And he said you'd be surprised. Well, you will probably win, but I think you'll be surprised. Again, at how much. I will be surprised.

Am I allowed to hold this? Hold whatever you want. Okay, cool. Yes. Ready? She's like bringing the grip around. Okay. I'm stronger in my legs usually, but I'm already making excuses.

So here we go. Ready? On you. Yeah, go. Oh, she's pretty good. Yeah, go. Oh. Oh, she's pretty good. You're letting me win. Okay, but you see there was a little resistance there, right?

There was a little bit of strength. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Growing up, I was so independent and I remember when my family was moving, I refused to let anyone help me move things. So I was like, I'm going to lift my TV and take it downstairs and I'm going to move this dresser.

And so I think I was so stubborn that really I just forced my body to keep up with my mental stubbornness. I like it. I like it. Maybe humble is just a little weaker. And so to be fair, humble is not the most physically strong person. I feel artist.

Yeah. Right. He's strong in penmanship. He's great. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I'm glad you're here.

Super strong mentally and physically. You've got a book called How to Be a Bouse, A Guide to Conquering Life. Make sure you guys pick this up. And it is very inspiring. You wrote it entirely yourself. A lot of great lessons of things you've learned from everything you've been through in your life,

from personal to family to health to relationships to business. I think you just posted yesterday you're the number one influencer in the world on Forbes. What did Forbes rank you as? Like number one YouTuber, influencer, entertainment. They have a top influencer list. And so in the entertainment category, I was number one.

Entertainment, number one entertainment influencer in the world. I guess so. Yes, actually I'm not going to be questionable about it. I'm going to own it. Yes, correct. I posted this yesterday saying how- I saw that. Yeah, part of it.

I didn't want to share this, but then- I'm trying to own it. Yes, correct. I posted this yesterday saying how- I saw that. Yeah, part of it. I didn't want to share this, but then- I'm trying to get better at that. Not being wary of my accomplishments. Promoting your accomplishments. Yes, exactly. I think it's an art form. It's a dance on how we acknowledge it, right? And someone we both look up to that we have in common is Dwayne Johnson, who I learned

from is it's okay to promote your accomplishments because he's such a great guy and he works so hard. Yeah. Well, I've never met him yet, but his quote is on my wall. So I've been priming my space for him to sit right in this place. I'll put in a great word. Yes, for sure. But I think it's really cool that you're putting yourself out there and you're acknowledging it because I think if you don't acknowledge these certain things, not saying you have to share it out on social media, but if you're not doing it, then I think you're not acknowledging how great of a person you are and what you're up to in the world. So congratulations on that.

Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I'm curious, so many great lessons in the book, so many things you've accomplished. What's the greatest lesson you've ever learned? Oh, the greatest lesson I've ever learned. I think something I struggled a lot with in my life was, you know, when I decided to make YouTube videos, I came at a very dark period in my life, and that was at the end of university. And prior to that moment- And university in Canada is high school in the US? What age-

It's college in the US. What age is that? So I was like- Because it's very different. Early 20s or 19s, 19s, 20s, something like that. It's a college. That's college for you. Well, college and university is kind of the same thing here.

It's like when you graduate high school, then you go to college or university, which is four years. You either go to college or university as well, but university is four years as well. Got it. University. I was at York University getting a psychology degree. And up until that point in my life, I don't know if it was just the culture I grew up in or the other family members I had that were walking a path.

I really did genuinely believe that life was very linear. I thought you're going to go to university and then you're going to get a job and then you're going to get married and you're going to have kids. It was everyone around me, that's what they did. And I didn't see life as this fluid thing that you could create your own path with and do whatever you want. I was just like, this is the way life is. And one of the reasons was because of school I really do believe in education but in school you learn certain things you learn subjects and then you learn science and then

you learn a whole bunch of things and it's very by the book psychology one of my biggest issues was I'd read this whole chapter about a theory and the last sentence was but this might not be true and I was like oh okay you're killing me here, Freud, you're killing me. I need, yeah. So one of the hardest lessons I've learned in my life is that you don't actually learn

a lot about yourself and what will drive you as a human from school. Unfortunately, I don't feel that way. You know, when I was, you learn about time management, maybe writing skills, maybe.

But when I went through depression in my last year of university, I was like, nothing I've learned in school has prepared me for this. Nothing I learned in school told me that I had to work hard at being happy, and no assignment I've ever done made me work at improving myself. And so one of the hardest lessons I've learned was everything takes work, not just your school assignments, not just your exams, not just the job you want or the job interview you want to ace. It's working on your mental health, working on your happiness, working on what is it I actually want to do and work for and what are my values and what are my beliefs.

You need to work on those things. And it sounds silly to say, but that's not common sense. I feel when you're growing up, you literally think you're supposed to have those things. You're supposed to have happiness. You're supposed to have good values. No, how? Where do these things come think you're supposed to have those things. You're supposed to have happiness. You're supposed to have good values. No, how? Where do these things come from? You have to work on them

and that's what I've been doing and that's what I preach about in this book. Yeah, and there's no class in school that taught us about how to have inner peace. Yes. Or how to love ourselves. Or if that even existed. Right.

Yeah. It was just like, this is what you do and I guess our parents are supposed to do that but sometimes they don't do the best job or they're doing their best. Or sometimes maybe they don't even know because they were never afforded those opportunities to ever

learn about their inner peace and if they're stressed out and depressed or they're going through challenges then you're modeling what you see 100 yeah so that's why i think it's really cool that you're talking about how to love yourself yes and acknowledge your accomplishments yes thank you i do believe it's a crucial step and i think when i talk about it i know people in their head they're like okay what is this tumblr tumblr quote time we love yourself but really once I start to love myself everything else kind of fell into place in my life yeah why do you think you were going down depression last year there was there was a few things I think one was that you know when I was younger I used to be really creative I used to be the middle of the dance floor at family parties

always I want to bake a cool cake I want to do this dance performance i want to write a poem and then i the school system or my family whatever convinced me that it's time to grow up you now need to pick a job and pick a major i remember going into university and then saying pick a major now that you want to do for four years because that's going to now dictate whatever job you get yeah and i'm like i have no idea what i want to do and so i was forced into this mindset of now's the time to figure it out. There's no more messing around and playing around and you can't do these creative things. And so I think that was one major reason. I was doing something I didn't enjoy.

I was going to lectures for three hours I hated and I wasn't interested in. And I had a lot of trust issues with my friends as well. I'm not going to lie. I ran into a lot of issues with my friends because growing up, I've always had major trust issues. I just, I don't know what it is, if it's just like the sexism naturally embedded into the culture I grew up in, but I had a hard time trusting guys. I had a hard time trusting my friends when it came to guys I knew as well. And so like I had a lot of just unresolved issues in my brain. They all boiled into that last year of university, the pressure of exams and figure out your life. And now you got to do this. And I just was like, I'm done. I can't do this.

And I kind of shut down. Wow. Okay. Who was the person that you were in a relationship the most that gave you the most pain? Huh? The person I was in a relationship with the most that gave me the most pain i would say experience you know what i i think and this is gonna get real deep i think it's there's an

obvious answer which is gonna be the friends i had a falling out with but i don't think i think that's kind of a scapegoat for the relation there's two one is that my parents are the best people in like on the planet to me but prior to me going through that really dark time period we never really had an open relationship like i wouldn't talk to them about a lot of things they wouldn't really talk to me and not because we didn't care we just didn't know how to you know we didn't talk about a lot of things growing up it was just you're the parents you provide for me and you care for me and love me. But if I have a problem at school, you're probably not the person I'm going to talk to about it. And so I would say that, that lack of openness probably caused me a lot of pain.

With your parents. Yes. But also the person that caused me the most pain was myself. The old me that didn't believe in myself and didn't think I deserved to be loved and just accepted crap in life, that version of myself caused me the most pain, to be honest. That version does not exist anymore. I actually do care about myself as a person and value my happiness. And the greatest thing that came from me overcoming that dark period was a big way I overcame it was talking to my mom. And so I always tell people one of the greatest things that happened in my life was depression because my relationship with my parents now is amazing. And I'll never forget that day I went home and I just start crying.

And for the first time ever, my mom was like, we're going to talk. And I was like, wow, what? I think actually what happened was, oh, my God, you're already getting stuff out of me that I haven't talked about. I was in my car. I got home. I was in my car and I remember having just the worst day ever inside, not to anybody else, but inside the worst day ever. And I was parked on my driveway, and I just remember crying in my car. And I didn't realize that my mom pulled up.

And she had seen, I guess. And so when I got inside, she's like, we're going to talk. And the thing is, like, so many people had pulled up to my house, and she was the only one that noticed. And so we had this conversation, and I just spilled my heart out to her telling her everything that was bothering me. And since then, we've just had such a great line of communication. How old were you then?

I'm so bad with ages. This was at university. So 20 something. Yeah, exactly. Or just the last year. The last year, sorry. The last year of university, yeah. Wow.

Okay, so you opened up, you became more vulnerable to her. Is this what it sounds like? And vice versa. She also, I mean, since that day, my mom has told me so many things about her life that really explain who she is as a person that I don't think she's told anyone.

I really value our relationship. She really confides in me and tells me things, like her deepest, darkest fears, and that's really special. It's powerful. Yeah, it's powerful stuff. It creates the ultimate bond, the ultimate connection, and the ultimate level of trust.

100%. And level of just acceptance, right? When you start to reveal certain things other people may reveal to you, it's like you start to understand and accept. 100% because we can always try our best to put ourselves in other people's shoes, but that's at the end of the day it's a figure of speech.

To actually put yourself in someone else's shoes is to know their experiences and what they've gone through. And so, you know, to your point of our parents are sometimes doing the best they can. When I learned so many things about my mom that I've never known before,

I thought, well, she's actually going above and beyond to what she has experienced in life, which was she's gone through some things, man, and she did her best, and I think I turned out all right. Exactly. Number one influencer in the world

you know mom not too shabby hi mom what would you say who was the most influential person for you your mom or your dad hmm

I'm gonna have to go with my it's kind of twofold but my first answer would be my mom just because I think I spent more time

with my mom and I'm a little bit I think we have more in-depth conversations me and my mom and she's gone through a lot of, just because I think I've spent more time with my mom and I'm a little bit, I think we have more in-depth conversations, me and my mom. And she's gone through a lot of adversity as well. I think,

I don't want to come across as if my entire upbringing was completely sexist. No, that would be a lie. That would be me exaggerating. But, you know, the South Asian community, the one I grew up in,

does have levels of sexism embedded into it. And so, when you contrast my mom and dad my mom definitely had to face more adversity yeah when it comes to what was expected of her and what she had to sacrifice and things she had to do and so i think especially being a woman in entertainment i relate to that and i see that and i know that i'm so outspoken because she taught me how to be

that way yeah yeah when it comes to business though a lot of things i've learned about business is through my dad really my dad is a great businessman. He's great at speaking to people. And I worked with our family business for a long time. What's a family business? So he controls a territory of gas stations in Toronto. And I used to work as a cashier in one of them. So I used to kind of work for my dad for a little bit.

And I used to see how he would assign certain goals to people and how he'd bring the team together and I think a lot of those things I've learned and tried to implement into my own life as well one of the things that our mutual friend humble told me about I was like what's something that really inspires you about Lily he goes she her level of work ethic and hustle whether she's working fast food or some job she hates or putting together furniture is like the same level of energy and passion and hustle across everything you do in life. He said he's really like inspired by that. Where does that come from and why do you do that? Yeah, honestly, I don't know where it comes from. Part of me thinks that, and this is me being really honest, I think it's a great pro and a strength, but often at times it's also a really big con in my life.

I'll give you a prime example. The other day we threw a barbecue for once. Someone on my team got engaged. He's sitting right over there. And I threw a barbecue and I was like, all right, pretty good. Simple barbecue and get some stuff for the barbecue.

Great. Then I'm like, I should do a fruit plate. And I was FaceTiming humble. And this is why I know he said this too, because I was FaceTiming humble. And I was cutting strawberries into stars and balling melons to make them look like flowers and he was just looking at me and he's like what are you doing he's like why are you putting this

much effort into this fruit bowl and it did not even occur to me i was like why wouldn't i spend five hours on this what do you mean five hours and i think it's just that i like to challenge myself and when i do anything i i treat it as if it is the most important thing and that's great because then i get to do amazing things like this that i'm really really proud of but then also i spend five hours making a fruit bowl so it's kind of problematic your bed for two hours yeah it's it's i haven't got that gotten there. So it's kind of problematic. Making your bed for two hours. I haven't gotten there yet. But it's, yeah, I don't know. There's something in me that's just obsessed with improving and productivity all the time. And when people ask me, how do you do that? Don't you get tired? The answer is, I don't know. I don't get tired.

I get tired of doing a lot of things, but I don't get tired of making this one thing the best it could be. You obsess over it. I obsess. Do you think there's something underneath it? Like, what if you didn't have the perfect fruit bowl? I mean, it wasn't perfect. The kiwis were kind of whack.

Oh my gosh. I'll say that. I think it's just, we have X amount of energy in a day, and if I'm going to spend that energy anyways, why not just spend it on doing something really well? It really bothers me if I just do, here's an example.

If I take a break, I usually watch a TV show. And in my brain, it's not just me, oh, I'm going to do nothing and watch a TV show. In my brain, it is no,

no, you are going to get inspired, but you have to proactively watch this TV show now so you can get inspired. It's like homework. It's not relaxing. And I'm obsessed with that. I'm obsessed with productivity at every level and being the best I can be

and extracting the best I can out of everything. And it's obsessive. Who do you want to be? Who do I want to be? I want to be... I don't want to fill anyone's void you know I think Humble and I learned this when we were in Italy at the honor of talking to Pharrell and he said something that really really impacted me when Humble was asking him he said Humble said something like I want to

fill the Andre 3000 void you know that's what I want my music to be and Pharrell was like you should fill the Humble the poet void and I was like oh I mean Humble talk about that all the time and that got me thinking where i don't want to fill the i don't want people to be like oh yeah you could be the next mindy kaling you know they're just saying that because i'm also a brown girl i don't want people to be like yeah you could be no i want to fill the lily sing void i want to be the best version of myself um that gives me goosebumps. I want to make little Lily get goosebumps when she looks at my success. That's what I want to be. I love the dedication that you had.

I'm just going to read it. Yeah. Dedicated to the person I was six years ago. I told you to keep going. Thanks for listening. It kind of reminds me of the Matthew McConaughey speech. Oh, yeah? Did you remember seeing his speech?

Was it the Oscar or the Oscar where he was like, my inspiration is myself three years from now and like chasing that guy who's going to achieve those things that I want to achieve. And it's like, what do I need to do now that's going to make that happen?

And like always chasing that myself, not someone else. Right. So I think it's cool that you kind of dedicated to that. Yeah, that dedication. I was thinking long and hard about the dedication. I'm like, of course, I want to dedicate to my mom. Of course, it's all these you kind of dedicated to that. Yeah. I was thinking long and hard about the dedication.

I'm like, of course I want to dedicate to my mom. Of course it's all these people. I put them all in the acknowledgements and I'm like, cut the BS.

The person that's actually dedicated to that actually got me here is the person that was like, I feel like crap. I'm still going to get up tomorrow.

That person. That inspires me. I just finished my book, my next book and I might have to change my dedication. Really? Tomorrow, that person. That inspires me. I just finished my book, my next book, and I might have to change my dedication. Really? And give you the props for the inspiration.

Not saying the same thing, but do it in my own way. You don't got to give me any props for the inspiration. No, I like it though. I think it's really cool. Because I dedicated my family in the last book, and I'm like, okay. Which is great. Families are great. But they're in the acknowledgments as well,

so maybe I'll change it up. But I think sometimes as humans, we need to be like, we feel pressured to always be giving people credit. And that's very, very important. But sometimes we don't give enough credit to ourselves. Absolutely. Yeah, I agree. At the end of the day, it's still you that did the thing.

I love it. Now, you went to school and you started becoming less creative. When did you decide that I need to kind of unleash my creativity again and bring this to the world and how can I make a living? Yes, I was doing it through a bunch of different things. In university, I did this thing where I started to bake cakes, like cake boss, ace of cakes type stuff. I know. And I was like, I'm going to be a baker now and do cakes. And that was me trying to be creative, make them look like a purse or make them look like something.

They had to be perfect. That that also rarely happened but i tried my best um and then it was i had i was part of a dance team i thought okay this is my creative outlet i'm part of a dance team but the thing that always held me back in any of those endeavors was the fact that i always felt my success was dependent on other people so the dance team is the greatest example of that in truly fashion i was like we're not So the dance team is the greatest example of that. In truly fashion, I was like, we're not just a dance team, no, no. We're going to take over the world through dancing.

I want the biggest dance team. I want the best dance team. I want all genres of dance being performed. I want the best costumes. And when you have 15 people on your team that are like, we really are just here to dance for 15 minutes. We ain't trying to have a dance empire taking over the world. And that used to frustrate me so much

because I would be showing up at practice, putting in my own money, staying up. Exactly. And one of the things I learned was that's not actually their fault. You know, people have different priorities and that's okay. It's my fault for trying to implement

my priorities onto other people that simply did not have them. When I was in my last year of university, I discovered YouTube, which did not exist when I was younger. And I remember watching these videos thinking, there's people in their rooms making videos and people are watching them? Like, what is happening here?

And there was a few creators in my community that, you know, had a few videos and I didn't really think anything of it. I thought it was just them. Then when I went more into YouTube, I saw, no, people all over the world are making these videos and this is a thing. And I spontaneously one day put up a video online. I thought nothing of it. It was not even comedy.

It was so far from who I am today. It was actually a spoken word piece about religion. Yeah, I heard you took it down, right? I took it down not because it sucked, because I have many sucky videos up. I took it down because it just does not represent who I am anymore. But it was so awkward.

I was so uncomfortable in it. And as bad as it was, I just fell in love with the fact that I could write whatever I wanted, say whatever I wanted, edit it however I want, promote it however I want. And no person around me impacted that success. There was no one else I had to rely on. I learned how to do everything myself and that I fell in love with. And so without thinking, I posted a second video. That was comedy. It was based on a linguistics argument I had with my friend. And I posted

another one, another one. And then suddenly I found myself thinking, well, how can I get better? How can I learn how to edit more? How can I write better? Just like the fruit bowl, just like the fruit bowl. And then it snowballed into this brand and career. That's amazing. Yeah. Do you still edit all your videos? So as of recent, a few months ago, I do have an editor on board that helps me. Just as a few months ago?

Yes. So for the past six or seven years. Holy cow. You're crazy. Six or seven years of me dressing up as different characters, moving my tripod, writing. It must take forever. Not only did it take forever, it got to a point where it wasn't enjoyable anymore

because I played so many characters and I shot and I edited myself. And you wrote the scripts. And so I remember shooting these videos by myself dressed in a beard looking around like, what the hell am I doing with my life right now? Because I'm not having fun doing this and this should be a fun career um and that's why i decided to bring more people on my team and now when i go on on a shoot i'm like oh i can do my job really well and have fun because

having fun is important to continuing doing something and not to mention my editor is better than me you know one of the things i've learned is that it is okay to be the dumbest on your team with some, in respect to some things. Like I'm really good at what I do, but I will not be as good of an editor as my editor. And so we work very collaboratively where I say, I want it to look like this.

This is how I want. And he does that. And sometimes he adds his own flair, which is even better, but it's still me having the creative control, but someone executes it way better than I ever could. And it allows you to go relax or relax with inspiration. Or do more work.

It allows me to do more work. Watch a movie and get inspired. Exactly. I love your quote about, you already know where this is going to be in the part of your book. We tried to do this game. It didn't work. The quote about the universe might respect the law of attraction, but it respects a good

hustle even more. I really love that. Was there a point earlier when you weren't a hustler or was it even when you were five, you were like always hustling? And then how do you sustain the hustle for people that feel like, man, that just seems exhausting? Is there a point in my life where I was not a hustler? Yeah. It was that point of my life at the end of university when I was super sad that if anyone had met me during that time, they would not recognize me as who I am today. I literally got up at three. I mean, I still wake up at 3 PM sometimes if I go to sleep really late. I'm just going to be honest. My sleep schedule is a hot

mess, but I had absolutely no goals. I woke up with no purpose, literally Walker from the walking dead, did not care, didn't care to accomplish anything. I would don't, I didn't care at all about how the fruit bowl looked. You know what I mean was a different person um but prior to that i do i do got to say everything in my life when i look back it's been this need to do my best and the greatest example is i remember i used to work at harvey's which is a canadian fast i think your equivalent might be hardy's yes here in america um i worked at it was my first job at a fast food restaurant and I remember there was downtime and the store was empty

and so I was like, okay, great, I'm going to refill the cutlery. And I was doing stuff and it did not occur to me that everyone else was just chilling. They were just like

looking at me fill these forks. And I remember hearing someone say this and it was the most shocking thing I've ever heard. They were just like, you just always got to do something. You're always working and I remember hearing someone say this and it was the most shocking thing I've ever heard. They were just like, you just always got to do something.

You're always working. And I'm like, wait, are you guys not? And it was so shocking, but I didn't even realize that was a thing people did. They just did not do something. And so I really think it's just something embedded within me that I haven't completely figured out why. It's just always been this need to do things

and be productive. Well, I mean, you look at the results. I mean, the results don't lie. You've generated certain results. Nor do hips. They do not. You're right. Do your hips lie?

Not at all. Oh, all right. Never. Show me later. Do a little dance move. I mean, my results don't lie. And you've created specific results in your life because of this level of hustle and energy that's been consistent.

I think if people don't want to generate great results, then they can take a break and they can pause and not be productive in certain things consistently. And they're going to get those type of results. So it all depends on what we want. It all depends on what we want. And I think the danger of – not the danger, but something I know people think after hearing this conversation is they think, well, that's very unhealthy. That's an unhealthy lifestyle balance. And people say that to me all the time. A lot of my friends are, you're always working.

Just come out with us. And here's the thing. If I'm really honest, to have a certain level of success, I do believe you do have to be obsessed with it. You have to be. You have to be obsessed with it. You cannot win a championship in any sport at the highest level without being obsessed. So it depends what your goals are. Depends what it is. If your goal is to be successful, but then also have weekends and also have a certain standard of relationship

and have family, that's not wrong. That is your goal and you do that. But when people say that to me, my goals are I want to be exceptionally good at this one thing. And that is going to me. My goals are I want to be exceptionally good at this one thing. And that is going to require a certain level of dedication. And that is the reality of the situation. Obsessiveness. Obsessiveness. All of your time involved.

And Dwayne's a great example. Obsessiveness, waking up at four, working out no matter where he is. That is an obsessive level of commitment. And he gets incredible results. Exactly. But he wouldn't get those results without obsessiveness. Exactly. Without constantly creating and get those results without obsessiveness. Exactly. Without constantly creating and focusing on his health and building relationships and adding value to the world and being nice to people.

He seems like one of the nicest guys, right? He is the nicest person I've ever met. And I know people are just like, oh, he's just nice to you. No. I can write a whole scientifically proven book as to why he's the nicest person on the planet. Why is he? Okay. He's the nicest person for a few reasons one is that he is actually you know when you talk about power there's many ways you could exercise power you know you could do dictatorship like i control you thus i am powerful and i can make you do whatever i want make all these rules

and we see these types of people in the world and they regardless of what we like or not they have power another way to have power is to think true power is how many people can i help accomplish what they want to do in life that is a different way of looking at power that's how he looks at power and he does that through when he's a part of a movie or when he's talking to me or when he's talking to any of his friends he does not say you he says we that's his thing when the first time i ever had a heart-to-heart conversation with him i remember telling him this whole situation about you know i call myself superwoman i have a deal with dc and i told him this whole thing about how obviously seven years ago i didn't think my youtube channel would be so popular so i stupidly called myself superwoman not realizing it's

trademarked um and i remember i'll never forget his response which was i definitely think we should try branding more towards lily's thing and i think we should try branding more towards Lilly Singh and I think we should do and then he caught even caught himself and he said keeps saying we obviously it's you but it's just you know we and he was just so invested and if you look at his movies he's not the producer of all them he's not the director of all them but he always in his captions like we've done what we can to put on the best movie for you because he understands that is the team positive way of using power of course yeah. Yeah, yeah. If it's all you, it's a lot of pressure. It's very selfish, I think. Exactly. I try to make it about a group

of people. And I know that there's no way, even I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger doing a speech about this for a commencement speech, whether you like him or not, or agree with him or not. He was like, there's no such thing as a self-made man. He's like, there are thousands of people that helped me to get to where I'm at. And it doesn't matter what I've accomplished. There's so many people on the team who've supported it. So we've got to think about the team, the people you surround yourself with and who support you.

Yeah, Dwayne is all about that. That's probably the greatest lesson I've learned. To be honest, I was bad at that. I will call myself- You wanted to do it all yourself and have control. Yes, and I was not good at delegating. And also I did have this it all yourself and have control yes and I was not good at delegating and also I did have this internal battle when I moved to LA where I was like wait so many people need a cut of the money I make that was a huge issue I'm experiencing this

right now it's like 10% here yeah 5% for lawyers 10% for business managers I was like 100% of me is in front of the camera wow y'all getting 10% of everything that happens and that a struggle I had. And I remember sending Dwayne this email asking for his advice. And he said something that really changed my mind. He said, listen, everyone brings their expertise to the table and therefore everyone deserves a cut. And that's how you will get greater results. And I blindly trusted him because I was like, if Dwayne says it, it must be true. It's so true. I was resistant to certain things. This whole year, I've been getting more and more people kind of courting with the results that we're getting and the brand that we're building. And I'm like, I've always done

the business deals myself and negotiated every contract and speaking fees and partnerships and sponsorships. I was like, I've been negotiating it since I was getting $100 a sponsor to where I'm at now. And it's like, I don't need someone else to do that for me. I'm good at this. But the more I'm realizing and the more people I talk to who have bigger brands are like, you just need the team. You need the team. If you want to elevate it to a whole other level, you got to remove yourself from some things. Right, exactly.

Because it goes back to you're really good at it, but are you as good as the person who that's their sole job? It's like you're out of there too. Exactly. You're pretty good at it. Exactly. But he's a little better and it gives you time to do other things, right?

Exactly. The smartest decision you can make is understanding you're not the smartest at something and get someone who's smart to do that thing. But you're pretty smart at a lot of things. I'm pretty decent at editing,

but could I do the things that editor does? Absolutely not. Right. What do you think you need to let go of in your life in order to get to the next level for yourself? You're already number one influencer in the world.

You're already one of the top three highest paid YouTubers of all time. You're already... Since the beginning of time. You're already... In a world. That's it. You're already a number one New York Times bestselling author. You're already doing music and tours and dancing and taking over the world. What do you need to let go of and who do you need

to step into in order to get to your next level? Something, and this is quite specific to what I do, something I need to let go of that I think a lot of people would be shocked to know it actually does impact me is I don't necessarily make content completely for views. And I think my vlog channel is a great testament to that. My vlogs don't get a lot of views. And I've always told myself that's because- Wait a minute. What's not a lot? Okay. So yes, let me put this into perspective. So my main channel in half a day should get a million views, a video. My a million views a video my blog channel a good blog in 24 hours

will get 150k so it's significantly less it's a second channel it's not scripted it's me going through my day being myself if people want to watch it great

and I have a rule for myself that I refuse to orchestrate drama into my day for my blogs I just am not going down that path and so

something I need to let go of is that even though I make content I really believe in and I think is funny, and you can ask my team, I'll sometimes be reading my scripts and watch my videos and I'll be laughing at my own jokes and be like, you're such a nerd.

And I'm like, but I'm so funny. And no one else is laughing, that's fine. But the challenge is that I have kind of been this very fast growing channel and done really well for myself. There are going to be people that surpass me in terms of views. There are going to be videos that don't do as well.

And even though I know in my heart when I'm writing a script, I'm not thinking about, okay, this will get 2 million views. The struggle is that when you post things online, that's the only measure we have. Right? I don't have a live audience. Exactly.

I care less about that when it's live. Of course, I still want the place to be sold out. But when it's not sold out and there's still 200 people that are screaming, that still feels like, oh, a message is getting across. The problem with online is the views are the only measure we have. Comments, views, likes, subscribe. But I can't even read through every comment. You know what I mean? there's no way if there was a sea of positive comments that would make me feel like this video had a great message i wouldn't be able to get through them all the quickest number i can

see is the view count and so what i need to let go of is that view count actually validating what my content is because i don't want to be the person that makes content just reviews i want to be the person that makes content that gets people. I want to be the person that makes content that gets people like Dwayne to be like, I want to work with you. That's the content I want to make. I want to make content where Stephanie McMahon, when I was obsessed with WD, she's like, yes, I'll do a collab with you. And Little Lily's like, yes, I'm glad you made this video. That's what I want to drive me. But it's been such a challenge because there's no analytic for that.

There's only an analytic for the views. And so I need to really let go of that somehow. And it's like a long-term game. It's like I'm creating content that maybe in a few years, someone will see and inspired and they want to partner with me or we want to do a project together that I'm, that's actually more important than 10 million views on any video. Yeah. And I, and I do really believe, I genuinely believe this when I say it, it's just hard to implement every day again, cause there's no statistic, but the greatest thing that could ever come

from me doing what I do is that years from now, if there was someone that accomplished great things, like someone who freed people, who got equal rights, someone who even became like some sort of world leader,

and if ever in an interview they were like, you know, I used to watch this girl, Lily, and she really inspired me, that is like really true I think inspiration and power what I would want to accomplish because it's not only about my success it's about everyone who might be inspired by that but there's no statistic for that so it's hard yeah it's tough who's the most inspirational person in the world for you right now

huh the most inspiration person in the world for me right now with fear of sounding redundant it's going to be doing yeah it's going to be of course my mom is there of course there's many other people my family that inspired me but the particular the particular way duane has inspired me i think is so unique i think it's like a one in a billion story of the summary would be growing up obsessed with duane like his pictures were all over my wall my email address was the rock 85 a hotmail.com in school i vividly remember winning a contest and on the announcements to the school i said lily the rock sing like everyone knew i was obsessed wow with the rock okay and so my whole entire life was just loving this guy.

I started making YouTube videos. I grew up and I'm still a huge fan, but maybe a less fanatic fangirl. And I used to make a lot of comments about him in my videos, talk a lot about him, make jokes about him, and not knowing his daughter was watching my videos. And so through whatever fate and stars aligning, Dwayne has become my mentor and friend.

And that's a rarity in life. Few people can say my absolute role model is someone I can call and ask for advice from. A few people can say that. And few people, a lot of people would say that's scary because a lot of times when you meet people, they're not who you expect them to be. Dwayne is so above and beyond who I ever expected him to be. And what that has taught me is that everything you learn about, before I even got an ounce of fame, I was so guilty of being one of those people that's like, celebrities are stuck up. They're rich.

They don't got problems. All these basic mentality things people say on Twitter to me. I used to think that. I used to think there's no way a celebrity actually cares about people. Dwayne proved me so damn wrong. And I remember just having a heart to heart with him saying, you have actually convinced me that you can be so successful in such a cutthroat industry, but still be the nicest person.

And I did not think that combination was possible at all. I did not think. I thought it was all facade, but it is not. You do not have to be a jerk to be it is not. You do not have to be a jerk to be good at business. You do not have to be rude to get your point across. And Dwayne proves that. And that's why I value, as I mentioned in the book, being nice so much because I do think it is an ingredient in the recipe to success. Wow. What's the biggest lesson he's taught you then? The biggest lesson he's taught me, I mean, amongst many business wise, something he said to me,

that's always stuck with me is he, he said to me, you know, when I was in football and I tried to go to wrestling, everyone was like, okay, now you're going to be a wrestler. And he got really,

really great at wrestling. And when he left the WWE, he went into acting. And again, people said to him, now you're going to be a wrestler. He goes into acting. We've seen this attempted before. It didn't work out too well and then he got into movies and after movies he

decided to do ballers which is a show and i love that show people said to him he told me people said to him movie stars don't do tv shows that is not the the path people go and it's like going backwards or something yeah exactly he was like well we're gonna buck tradition then he's like you make up your own rules about what that path is going to be and that was always really inspirational to me as someone who went from psychology to i'm gonna make youtube videos to actually i want to act and sometimes i want to do music and i want to write a book and i don't want to live with myself because if no one else is taking that path i'll make that path then and that's what he's done amazing amazing this is just basically episode one of Lily Fangirling about Dwayne the Rock Johnson here

of a 12-part series that could happen. What is your vision next for you then? What's the scariest thing that you want to go after for yourself? If you could achieve anything. If I could achieve anything. If you could write it down and it's going to happen. Anything you want. What would that be?

I want to be, I'm just going to be blunt. I want to be a very big star. I'm going to say that. And I know. Bring it, girl. Yeah. And I know sometimes people think that's what you want to be. I want to be a big star because,

you know, one of the greatest things about what I do is that I can actually do things for people. You know? I can make a video that can inspire someone. Even through money. I can help my friends if they need help. If I need to help with a project,

I can do that. If I need to promote something, a cause I really a project I can do that if I need to promote something of cause I really believe I can do that I want to be a big star not just because I want to be in movies and I believe in the art of acting and I want to tell great stories but I think with the more stardom I have I believe in my heart I could help more people you know I want to be that person that's like I'm gonna walk a red carpet and then tomorrow I'm going to go and with an organization I'm working with, we're going to go to this village in Kenya I admire and I'm going to build schools without giving it a second thought because I can do that. That's what I want to do. I don't want to just lie and say, I just want to help people.

Of course I do. But I also want to do it because I am a great actress or a great musician. I'm really great at something and that greatness has led to me being able to help people. That's what I want. I love it. I don't just want to help people through an inheritance or anything. Not that anything's wrong with that, but I want to feel like I'm really good at something

and because of that, I'm able to help people. Yeah. So it's kind of a selfish motive, but one I want to share with other people. Sure. What's your biggest fear if that happens? Are you afraid of it all? Oh, I'm so afraid.

Half of my life is being afraid, to be honest. Really? Yeah. I think every day I step out of my comfort zone. And there are some days where I'm like, shut up, Lily. Just have a day where you just sit on your couch. You're safe. And you're safe.

And you're not doing a speech. And you're not in front of a camera. And you just get to be crappy. Let yourself be crappy let yourself be crappy and i think every day whether it's podcasts or whether it's auditions or whether it's panels or whatnot it's always some element of stepping out of my comfort zone preparing for something getting mentally ready for something and i'm scared that that's going to take a toll because even now i don't consider myself, I mean, Forbes can say whatever they want. I don't consider myself this huge, massively, massively influential person.

I think I influence a certain amount of people and that's great. But I'm scared that it is, my career is going to go upwards and I'm going to not be able to feel the same way as I feel right now speaking to you. That it's going to take such a toll on me that I'm going to think, really think really yeah it is a valid fear and I know reality enough to say that

I'm not I'm no longer that naive person that's like I'm gonna respond to every message I get and every bit of fan mail and I'm never gonna say no to a picture and I am always gonna be a positive happy person that's not possible it's possible. And I know that now sitting here today, but I'm five years from now, what else will I learn that is impossible? I'm sure you've seen The Rock too. I'm sure he would love to take a photo with everyone, but when there's 20,000 people outside his hotel room,

it's like, I gotta get to work. Exactly. And where do you draw that line? And so I've just learned so many things that three years ago I didn't know. And so the fear is that three years from now, what will I know that I don't know now that will change whatever I'm saying right now?

What are you more afraid of? Being the most relevant person in the world or being irrelevant? I'm going to say it currently, Lily. Her answer, the fear would be being irrelevant. And I say that because I'm in this really interesting gray area where I have a lot of fame online but I still go into auditions and they're like I'm sorry what was your name again

you know what I mean I'm caught in between two worlds you go check yeah so I have celebrity but then sometimes I'll go to events and people will not care at all about who I am and it's like this area of like I have really sometimes i'll have dinner with my celebrity friends and i'll have a conversation and then i know i can't have that same conversation with some of my friends not because they're better or worse but because like you won't relate to anything i don't want to be that douchebag that's having a dinner with my friends being like oh my god so the thing i hate about first class is you know i don't want to have that conversation.

I'm like, oh, my God. So like I went outside and there's like hundreds of fans. And then because I don't want that my friend to be like, can we even have a conversation about. But who's to blame there? Because that is my reality. You know that I'm not trying to put on a facade. That's the real things I experience. And that always gets to me because I'm like, I never want to be so up here that I can't come down here and have a conversation with anyone i want to be able to have a conversation with anyone so i want to

maintain that and there's a fear of me making a video of my fans being like i can't relate to this what he does is so irrelevant to me yeah what do you think about the most during your days you want to know a thought i have every single day? It's so ridiculous. At least once a day I have a thought where it's just, if I had a superpower, it would be to pause time so I could take a nap. Once a day I have this thought. I just would love to pause time, take a nap right here on this desk and then just resume.

And you wouldn't even know. You know what I mean? I think about that a lot. I also think about during my day, I'm obsessed with productivity. Like I said, so I have a chapter in my book that is about problem solving everything from small problems to very large problems so something like oh what am i stressed about right now my phone is dead great i'm gonna come up with three solutions as to how this cannot stress me tomorrow and so throughout

my day i'm always picking up little things that have slowed me down. I use this analogy a lot of Mario and Mario Kart. And so I always consider my day a race. You can call it unhealthy, but I think it's fun and cute. And so what banana peels did I deal with? I'm always going to address the next day. And so during the day, I'm always thinking of those things,

of what slowed me down and what I can improve on. What's the thing you're most proud of that maybe most people don't know about you? What am I most proud of that maybe most people don't know about you what am i most proud of i am proud that in the vast amount of priorities you can have in a day and in life being or at least trying and valuing being a kind person is still very high on my priority list and I think it's easy when you're on set or it's easy when you have so many people working for you it's easy to not care about that you know it is and I almost I don't want to give people a pass

when they're rude on set I don't think it's right but I could see how they think that's okay because I'll go onto a set and people will cater to me left right and center in a ways where i'm almost almost uncomfortable with because i'm like no like treat me like a human um i've seen if i'm even having a bad day and i might come across rude no one calls me out on it no one will be like that's not right unless i do it myself and so i can see how when you're constantly around that environment you might be like i'm allowed to do this this is what i'm supposed to do i'm proud that i still call myself out on crap you know and i hope that maintains like an example is yesterday not to

toot my own horn but i yesterday i realized that i have a shooter and he's a phenomenal shooter filmmaker but we butt heads a lot on set because he's fixated on these minor minor lighting details that i could care less about because i don't see them because my eye is not trained to see them yeah and so i'll always be like kind of hurry up we need to shoot we shoot and so i called myself out and i was like well you know he's his intentions are to make this the best thing and so i had to have a talk with him i was like i'm sorry if i was like being a little bit of a jerk to you i get where your intentions are and I'll try to work on it. And I'm proud that I'm able to see that because very few times will anyone else call me out on that. Yeah. Yeah. That's good.

I want to be a nice person. I don't want to lose that. You are a nice person. Thank you. Keep it though. I want to maintain, I do. I am one of those people, call it naive or not, that believes that compassion and kindness can actually change the world. I really do believe that. What's the question you wish more people would ask you? I wish more people would ask me, and we spoke about this a bit before we started recording, what is something you were blatantly wrong about?

What are some things that you believe that you don't believe right now? Because I think when people look at journeys of people, think they're very like this but really they're like this and like this and like this and like this and there's a lot of things i've changed my mind about you know there's a lot of things i've learned and there's even times where i've eaten my words i'm like oh that's not that's not right at all i don't believe that um and so i wish people would dissect those elements of my story a bit more because those are the parts people actually need to learn from, you know,

is that you will change and grow as a person and that is not a bad thing. Yeah, yeah. Before I ask the final few questions, do you guys have one, anything come up for you, anything I missed?

You want me to repeat it? Okay, great. Tiff asked a question. All right, Tiff asked a great phenomenal question which was, you know, as a woman of color,

has that impacted my journey? Am I aware of it and how has that been my journey am I caught am I aware of it and how has that been in general I think with with the director of my career it's interesting it's kind of multifaceted in a lot of ways because I'm obviously I'm aware I'm a woman of color you know I take a shower every day I'm aware but when things happen you know when i get write a book or when i achieve things that people say well how does it feel as a woman of color i'm like i wasn't really thinking of it as a woman of color in that moment you know i wasn't accepting award being like well with brown skin and a vagina i think you know but then sometimes i do so it's

kind of an on and off relationship where I'm aware and I made a post about this where I'm aware that especially doing things online, do I face a lot of really intense sexism with opportunities? I don't think so. I don't think I get less opportunities

on YouTube because of a woman. That's a great thing about the digital space. I think that's a great example for Hollywood. There's no casting director in front of the upload button. You know, the number one influencer is the woman yeah you know and i think a lot of a lot of other industries could take notes just saying but at the same time do i face sexism in other ways of course of course there's the youtube comments that are like make me a sandwich do that but at a deeper level when i make for example one of my most hated videos or

disliked videos is why I don't need a relationship. That is one of my most disliked videos. It is me ranting about all the reasons I don't think I need a boyfriend. I don't want a boyfriend. It is the same type of humor as a video I would make called five things I love about relationships. It's the same type of wittiness. It's the same everything. The only difference is I'm saying why I don't think I need a relationships. It's the same type of wittiness. It's the same everything. The only difference is I'm saying

why I don't think I need a relationship. Comments. You are so stuck up. You are one of those girls that just thinks you're better than everybody. So what? You're so into it. This is why I hate feminism.

And that's the type of sexism I deal with. Whereas if I have a strong viewpoint about something or I'm really direct about something, I will more often be called rude and harsh than some, perhaps, not for sure, perhaps my male counterpart would have done it. And I think that's consistent across a lot of industries, which is a strong point of view is not perceived in the same type of epicness if a female did it as if a male did

it. And so I do deal with that a lot. But otherwise, I've always said as a woman of color, my one line is, I can make a billion videos about why racism is wrong and why sexism is wrong. And I have a few, you know, when I'm feeling sassy, I have a few. But I know the most impactful way to challenge that is to be the most successful woman of color I can be. You know, that's when people see me on a billboard that will probably speak way more volumes than me making a five minute video explaining to people that probably won't listen anyways as to why racism and sexism is wrong. I love that. Do you have one? Christine is asking in the first two years when you knew what you were doing, but other people didn't understand it,

what keeps fueling you when you had other things to do with your time? Right. I think it was definitely that challenge of I don't know anything about this world. Because I also, I might have known more than my parents, but I also didn't know a lot about YouTube. I was like, what are an analytics? You know, I was like, what are these things? I had no idea.

With dance, I had an idea. You know, I was like, I know I have to do this, I have to choreograph. This is how long this is. With YouTube, I had no idea. This is a brand new thing I had to learn about. Every part of it I had to learn about. I think that challenge really drove me to be like,

well, maybe you can learn about this. Maybe you can make your own rules. Right? It was also me. I had summer jobs and part-time jobs growing up forever. And when I decided to make YouTube my career, even though no one else understood. To this day, people are like, you get paid off making videos.

Right? That's what excited me. It was the was the oh so I can make my own rules I don't have to get up at nine I don't have to go to work I don't have to punch in and out I don't have to listen to what someone else is telling me I can make my own rules and that really excited me you know maybe it was the idea that no one really understood it that drove me further because I could be like I'm gonna make you understand now. And you know that's exciting because it's exciting to say that my parents, people who did not get the internet,

now can confidently speak about the digital space in YouTube and that's through me educating them about that and that's awesome. I think it took me like eight years until my family finally figured out what I was doing. Yeah, for sure. They were still like, how you have money and how are you, what is this?

They just didn't understand it. They're like, what? The proud proudest moment one of the proudest moments i've ever had so am i talking too much am i talking okay one of the proudest moments they're like we can just deal with it and edit one of the proudest moments i've ever had was you know for years i was like every monday and thursday i'm making videos i lived with my parents for a really really long time up until i was 26 and i had to make videos while living in their house and so they didn't always get why i needed to be quiet and why they couldn't yell on the phone and why i needed costumes and needed this and one of the proudest moments was i remember one thursday my dad was like lily i need you to go somewhere with me the bank and my mom before i even answered she's like she can't you know it's thursday and i was like oh my, you are valuing what I do as a thing that needs to be prioritized.

And I will always remember that because I was like, you get it. That's cool. Yeah. That's very cool. Final couple questions. This is called the three truths. Okay. So imagine that this is the last video you're ever going to put up.

Oh my God. I'm going to ask you a question and the answer you give is the last video that're ever going to put up. Oh, my God. I'm going to ask you a question. The answer you give is the last video that you get to put up. Okay. And for whatever reason, every other video and book and thing you've done is erased. This is just one video left to the world of your message. It's called The Three Truths. And imagine that everyone turned on their computer or their phone and they're watching this

video live and it'll be recorded but they'll watch it live and they can understand you sounds great so far so they're listening they're watching you live as you're going to answer this what would you say are your three truths the three things you've learned about your entire life the lessons that you would want to share with the world as your final video, your three truths? One would definitely be there is very seldom right and wrong. There is more often different. And a lot of our problems would be resolved in life if we understood that. Another would be in a lot of issues in the world and in life and in comedy and anything you do in life can often be divided into two solutions one is courage and love and the other is fear and hate

if you dissect most of life's issues they fall into those two categories fear and hate is always easier love and courage is always harder. Love and courage will more likely be worth the fight of it being harder. And the last thing I would say is no one has it figured out. We're all making it up as we go along. So make it up as best as you can. There you go. Those are great. Yeah. I want to acknowledge you for a moment, Lily, for your incredible courage to go after something of the unknown, but to tap into the young girl that you once were, which was being creative, being fun, trying new things, making mistakes, and figuring it out as you went. Thank you. You inspire so many people around the world who watch, come to your events, who read your book. And I just think you're an incredible

inspiration. Thank you. And so talented and so giving of your heart. So I acknowledge you for your consistent dedication every single day to be the best that you want to be because you're inspiring people in that journey. That's very sweet. Thank you so, so much. And I do have to commend you because before we started this, you said, I want, what would make this the best podcast is if you talked about things you've never talked about. And I definitely did that. I feel like this is one of the best things I've ever done, to be honest. So if we could just promote this everywhere. Drop the mic.

I'm just going to promote it everywhere because I really think these conversations were really dope. So thank you for digging deep and being so open and receptive. It was really, really great. It was powerful. Thank you. Final question. Yes. Before I ask it,

I want to make sure everyone goes through the book, How to Be a Bouse, a guide to conquering life and to follow you, subscribe, where's the best places they should go?

Yes, you can go at youtube.com slash Lilly Singh, L-I-L-L-Y-S-I-N-G-H and my socials for everything else are I-I Superwoman I-I-L-L-Y-S-I-N-G-H. And my socials for everything else are IISuperwomanII because I didn't know what a trademark was seven years ago.

Got it. Why didn't you use your personal name then? Why did I use for YouTube? Why did not? Why didn't I? Why didn't you use it for Instagram or Twitter? Because seven years ago, everything was IISuperwomanII. Even YouTube is IISuperwomanII.

I just have multiple URLs that work. Got it. But seven years ago, I was like, oh, I really like that hip-hop song by Lil Mo and Fabulous. I used to call myself Superman well before making YouTube videos. It's like, oh, this is going to be a fun little side project. Let me do Superman. Sure, sure.

Have you ever thought about changing it to your name? Dwayne wants us to, so we'll see. I haven't decided yet, but I'm trying to call myself Lily more and more though. Yeah, cool. Okay. So guys, go get the book. You're not on tour anymore.

Tour's over. I have one more stop in Trinidad, but after that it's done. It's done. But follow her. Watch her videos. They're hilarious. Watch the one of her in the shower recently,

which is hilarious. And also any of my fans who are here for the first time, please make sure you follow us as well because you won't regret it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Final question is, what's your definition of greatness? My definition of greatness.

My definition of greatness is to excel at whatever you think is a value to excel in without having to pull anyone or anything else back. It is to move forward while bringing everything else around you in forward momentum as well. You're a boss. Takes one to know one. Appreciate it.

Thank you. There you have it, guys. If you enjoyed this, if you were inspired by this, if you got some inspiration and you learned some things, then make sure to share this with your friends lewishouse.com slash 506 tweet out some of the tweetables that are on the the show notes right there you can watch the full video interview at the show notes as well on youtube make sure to tag lily tag myself on

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Pablo Picasso said, every child is an artist. The problem is staying an artist when you grow up. Guys, use your creativity. Allow yourself to play, adventure, create something magical in the world. yourself to play adventure create something magical in the world don't just stay stuck in a life and a path that you don't love start doing things that bring your unique experience your unique heart your gifts to the world create design explore adventure you got this i got your back and you know what time it is it's time to go out there and do something great. Thank you.