The School of Greatness - 650 Leadership Lessons from the Masters
Episode Date: June 6, 2018“The leader who acts like they have all the answers leaves no opportunity for others to help.” - Simon Sinek My previous mashup episodes have been exploding. Because of this, I wanted to bring you... an episode on leadership. No matter who you are, or what you do, you will be in a leadership position at some point. Whether you are the CEO of a company, or a stay at home parent: there are people who rely on you to stand up and take charge. This can be a very confusing situation, as sometimes you may find yourself feeling like you can’t ask for help. You also may feel like you’re losing progress and need to keep moving forward. To give you the tools you need to lead in success I wanted to bring you back segments from Alison Levine, Simon Sinek, Nancy Duarte, and Cesar Millan. This collection of interviews, I felt, will give you some of the tools you need to really progress in your life. If you take these lessons, and integrate them into your life a little at a time, you will see results. I don’t expect you to memorize it all and I don’t expect you to make a sudden change. Integrate these lessons little by little and review them. Now get to it, and learn how to be a successful leader, on Episode 650. Som questions I ask: What if you have an employee that’s failing over and over again? (5:39) Why do you say “When you make progress on something, turn around and change direction?" (7:12) Does vulnerability create trust? (12:06) Who do you think is the most inspiring leader? (20:14) Did you (Cesar) always see yourself as a natural leader? (21:36) What if someone feels like they’re leading, but aren’t? (23:19) In This Episode You Will Learn: How to help your team learn and grow (5:15) The way you successfully reach the top (8:23) What will make you struggle the most in life (14:23) One of the greatest leadership tools (19:13) How to build confidence in human beings (24:04) Plus much, much more...
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This is episode number 650, Leadership Lessons from the Masters.
Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned
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I think that you've got to give yourselves and your team room to fail. As long as you come back from it better the next time around,
failure is a pretty incredible learning experience.
So encourage people to fail.
Don't just reward success.
Reward people who are getting out there, taking risks,
and really pushing their limits, whether they succeed or not.
I mean, that's great in theory, but what about if you're running a business
and you have an employee that just is failing over and over again and is costing you thousands of dollars?
Do you continue to reward them for their creativity or at some point do you get to the point where you have to cut them off or really kind of lay the hammer down so they're getting results for your company?
I think that's a great question. And it depends on the position that person is in and how much risk tolerance you have at the time. So, for example, if it's somebody in R&D that's trying to invent through that success may end up bringing in a heck of a lot of revenue down the road.
But if you just have someone that's failing because they're a crappy performer and because they have a lousy attitude, then you should absolutely cut that person loose.
Because a bad attitude, that type, and you know, that type
of thing can be toxic in a work environment. And that's, that's different than someone who's
taking risks and pushing themselves and who wants, who's willing to get stumble and beat,
get beat up along the way for, in order to help advance the company and its mission and its goals.
But if you have someone that's failing just because they're not trying
and they have a crappy attitude, I say get rid of them.
Yeah, I like that idea.
Now you've got another piece of advice which is also contradictory.
You say when you're making progress on something,
turn around and change direction.
So what's that advice all about?
So that's an interesting one. And it's one of the most psychologically challenging aspects of
climbing a big mountain. So we'll just use Everest, for example, but this would be a process
that you would use on almost any Himalayan peak. So when you go to climb Mount Everest, you don't
just climb from base camp to camp one,
to camp two, to camp three, and on up the mountain. You're going to spend about 10 days
hiking just to get yourself to base camp. Once you get to base camp, you have to spend a few
days and nights there to get used to the altitude because it's over 17,000 feet.
Wait, 10 days just to get to the base camp, to the bottom of the mountain.
Just to get to the bottom of the mountain. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, 10 days just to get to the base camp, to the bottom of the mountain. Just to get to the bottom of the mountain. Oh, my gosh. Exactly.
Exactly.
I mean, 10 days, you're exhausted.
You're at an elevation of over 17,000 feet.
Wow.
So you're really feeling the altitude, and you're just at base camp.
Are you telling me you can't take a horse up there or a car?
No.
But I'll tell you an interesting little factoid is on the north side of Mount Everest,
when you climb from the Tibet side, you can actually drive all the way to base camp. But
on the south side, you have to hike in. And that's the route I took is the route from the south side,
from the Nepal side. So you're at base camp for a few days and then you pack up your stuff and you climb up to camp one.
And you get to camp one and you spend the night up at camp one.
And then after you spend the night at camp one, you pack up your stuff and you come back down to base camp again.
And then you spend a few nights at base camp again.
Then the next day you climb to camp one again, spend the night.
And then you climb up to camp two and you spend the night at camp again. Then the next day you climb to camp one again, spend the night. And then you climb up to camp two and you spend the night at camp two. And after you spend the night at camp two, which
is even higher up on the mountain, after a night there, you pack up and you come all the way back
down to base camp again. And then you spend more time at base camp again. Then you climb to camp
one again, spend the night. Climb up to camp two again, spend the night. The next day you'll spend about nine or 10 hours fighting your way up to camp three, which is at about 24,000 feet. So you spend the night at
24,000 feet and the next day you come all the way back down to base camp. So as you're moving up the
mountain, you have to keep switching direction and coming back to base camp because you have to let your body get
used to the altitude very slowly. It's this process called acclimatization. And if someone
were to magically drop you off on the summit of Mount Everest, if you could be dropped up there
by plane or helicopter or something like that, you'd be dead in a matter of minutes from the
altitude. So you have to move up the mountain very slowly just so your head doesn't,
you know, pop off when you get to very top. But the catch is that anytime you're above 18,000 feet,
which is going to be any, any camp above that base camp, anytime you're above 18,000 feet,
your body is starting to deteriorate and your muscles are getting weaker. So it's this crazy catch 22. Yeah. Like it's so frustrating because you want to spend time up high to get
used to the altitude, but you have to keep coming back down low so you can eat, sleep, hydrate,
and regain some strength. So yes, it's very physically challenging to be climbing up and
back down and up higher and back down again. But psychologically,
oh, incredibly frustrating as well, because I mean, you know, you want to be going up the
mountain because you have to get to the summit, but you're spending so much time climbing in the
backward direction down. Exactly. And so it's really easy to just think, oh, my gosh, I'm
losing ground. I'm not making progress. This is not the direction I want to be going. This is moving away from my goal.
How can I get to my goal when I'm moving in the wrong direction? And for whatever reason,
we always tend to think that progress has to happen in one particular direction. But that's
not the case. Sometimes you are going to have to go backwards for a bit in order to make progress.
And my point in the book is that you should not let this backwards direction discourage you or
make you feel like it's a setback. You look at going in a different direction from what you
anticipated. When you go in that different direction, just look at it as an opportunity to regroup,
regain some strength,
so that when you do turn around and change direction,
again, you're even stronger the next time around.
Use that time as an opportunity to strengthen your skills
so you can be stronger.
And don't look at it as a setback
and don't look at it as losing ground.
Just look at it as part of the process And don't look at it as losing ground. Just
look at it as part of the process of getting to where you want to be.
Ultimately, the entire organization is weaker because of it, right? So when we trust each other,
we're more likely to work together to protect ourselves from outside dangers or seize
opportunities. And does this vulnerability create trust?
Correct. Because when we willingly demonstrate vulnerability, what we're demonstrating is trust.
So let's just stick with the falling asleep analogy. That I would fall asleep demonstrates
to you, my tribe member, my colleague, that I'm putting myself in a position of great peril,
vulnerability. I cannot defend myself. I will be asleep because I know that you look after me.
Wow.
Right?
And the same goes for leadership.
I was walking down Pennsylvania Avenue with a guy from Palestine, true story.
And we stopped in front of the White House.
I'm standing there looking at, you know, the White House.
And he says to me, the president of the United States lives there. And I'm like, it's the White House. He's like, no, no, no. The president of the United States lives right there.
us. Yes, we all know there's tons of security around the White House, but it's not visible.
There's no razor wire. There's no guys walking around with submachine guns. There's no signs that say, you come here after 6 p.m., shoot to kill order. You could actually climb the fence.
I mean, it's not a very daunting fence. In other words, the leader of our country lets us come
right up to his house where he actually lives. It's not a fake. He actually lives there.
house where he actually lives. Like it's not a fake. He actually lives there. Right. And we let him, they let us come up to the house. If you go to a dictatorship, you know, the people aren't
allowed within miles of the leader's house, the quote unquote leader, you know, the dictator's
house. There is razor wire. There are tanks, there are guys with machine guns. And so there is no
expression of vulnerability. Right. So yes, it is absolutely essential for leaders
to demonstrate vulnerability
because that vulnerability must be mutual.
Not only if you fall asleep,
will I promise to protect you,
but if I fall asleep,
I trust that you will protect me.
And so this goes not only physically,
but also emotionally.
The leader who acts like they have all the answers,
by the way, they don't,
leaves no opportunity for
others to help and so people don't and it's not because people are difficult or don't want to
help it's because they've been given no opportunity to because apparently the guy knows it all right
and this was one of the biggest lessons i learned in my own my own life which is um when i struggled
most in my life was when i thought i had to have all the answers because I was
in charge, quote unquote. And if I didn't, I had to pretend that I did. I had to demonstrate
confidence even if I didn't have any, right? The reality is the total opposite. It's when you admit
that you don't know something, that other people will come to your aid, not because you're vulnerable
and not because they want to intimidate you. It's because you said you didn't know it and they do.
And they're like, I know that. i can totally do that for you like you
can you know if you pretend that you know it it's not that people don't want to help it's that they
just didn't think you needed it and so the opportunity to express vulnerability is paramount
to the building of trust doesn't happen overnight like any relationship i mean think about boy meets
girl girl meets boy you know first you know you got a drink. And everybody sort of shows off and puts their best face on.
And then as you get to know the person, so the walls come down a little bit,
the fears come out, the insecurities come out,
the things you don't like start to come out.
And in time, you start to build a relationship.
The relationship between leader and follower and follower and leader is exactly the same thing.
It is a relationship and it takes time to nurture and look after.
So how does someone in the-
And it's born out of love. Love, love. I mean, and I'm not being, I'm not being cheesy.
No, I completely understand.
I mean, there's an amazing piece of footage. So there's a soldier who was just recently
awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, which as we know is the highest medal in our land.
who was just recently awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor,
which as we know is the highest medal in our land.
He was embedded with a company of Marines and something very bad happened.
The Marines were overrun and he was carrying out the wounded
to get them out of the danger.
And one of the medevac helicopters that came in
to take away the wounded, sheer coincidence,
one of the medics had a GoPro camera on his helmet.
So there's this footage of this soldier
carrying a Marine on his shoulder,
lays him on the floor of the helicopter,
bends down and kisses him on the forehead
and then walks away and goes back to rescue more.
It's all caught on. You can watch it on YouTube.
Wow.
Right? Now, if that's not love, I don't know what is.
He bends down and kisses him on the forehead as if to say,
I gotcha. We gotcha.
It's like what a parent does to their child.
They kiss them to say, it's all right.
When somebody's in the hospital, when someone's in pain, we touch them.
We put our hand on their hand.
We put our hand on their leg and we rub them
and we say, don't worry, you'll be okay.
Like that sense of touch,
that is the greatest expression of love if there ever was.
And this opportunity, this demonstration of vulnerability,
this is a soldier in combat.
And most people don't realize this,
but in the military, crying is just fine.
It's just fine. And the Marines will call it off and they call it the intangibles.
But you know, every now and then you will get a Marine who will admit that the feeling they have
is love. It's brotherly love. It's sisterly love. It's love for each other. And it's love for core.
It's love for my brothers and sisters and my family. I mean, that's, that's what it is. It's
love. It is, It is the feeling.
And I think that you have to build love.
You have to earn love.
You have to work towards love
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Now let's get back to this leadership conversation.
Storytelling is an amazing leadership tool.
So if you look at the structure of a story, it's always about this protagonist who goes through something really difficult and is changed in the process.
And as leaders, that's what we do every day, right?
We can see a more ideal future.
And we are to drive, we call them travelers, we're to drive our travelers there.
And it's hard.
And we're asking them to go through hardships on behalf of the company or the organization.
And so using speeches, stories, ceremonies, and symbols is a way to create longing inside your travelers to help them want to go there with you.
And that's the biggest barrier is most of the time your travelers will resist.
They'll look at the sacrifice and say this isn't worth the reward that they're offering,
and they'll opt out of your journey. And you don't want that, right? You want the right people with
you along the way, because leaders don't get there by themselves. You get there because of the people
that come with you. And that's why it's really important to use these tools and have them in
your toolkit. Who do you think is the most inspiring leader who is able to use all
the tools necessary to bring his or her travelers on the journey? Yeah. I mean, I think it's so
funny because there's kind of the classic, you've got Dr. King on the cause side and I think Steve
Jobs on the corporate side. I think they both used all of those speeches, stories, ceremonies,
and symbols every day along the way. Really? Yeah.
And when they communicated, yeah.
It's funny because when we first were writing the book, we called the people the troops,
you know, instead of the travelers.
And it's because, well, they're enlisted.
Right, right.
They're in, and it sounded very leader, follower.
Like, it sounded too much like you just, a troop has to do what they were enlisted to do.
Enrollment is very different because the people are self-selecting in,
which is very different than
being told that they have to.
So I think if you have a journey,
if you look at Frodo,
his friend Sam, those guys chose
to go along. They enrolled.
They weren't enlisted.
And I think that if you're a good leader,
people will want to go where you feel they need to go. They'll know because you convey it in a way
that's so beautiful. It'll create longing in them to see your future realized.
Did you always see yourself as a natural leader or is that a skill that you've developed?
I think my mom would say yes.
I think my mom would say I was always breaking the rules, the boundaries, the limitations.
And she always say, you have to master the rules before you break the rules.
And so you have to be a great follower before you become a leader.
So you hear those things when you're little and you say, okay.
But you don't understand why you're breaking it.
And so then you realize that you're breaking it because you were born to lead.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
It's just you're born to lead.
That's the beauty of America.
America immediately honed into that and that kid has that skill.
But we don't have that in a third world country.
We don't have places where they can redirect that energy.
So often what happens is can redirect that energy.
So often what happens is they suppress that ability.
Really, the talents, the gifts that you have?
That's right.
Really?
Yeah, because you have to follow.
You have to follow, you have to follow, follow, follow.
And sometimes, no, they're constantly telling you what you're doing wrong versus what you're doing right.
We are the only species that follow unstable pack leaders.
Animals, it's impossible for them to follow instability.
Impossible.
They don't follow instability because instability leads them nowhere.
So they'll do their own thing or they'll...
Or they take over their relationship.
Right, right.
So in my case, you know, in my case,
you can clearly see how the dog is in control of their lives.
So outside, we were talking to a gentleman that you introduced
me and he said my dog loved love for me to drag him that's his perception right right why would
a dog would like to be dragged right you know and then he come out with oh he's doing sit-ups that's
what he's straight to his core it was all very intellectual you know it made no sense in the
animal world yes but in his it made a lot of sense.
What does someone feel like?
You know, I feel like I'm certain, I'm confident, I'm leading, and I'm poised and graceful,
but it still feels like I'm dragging in some sense.
My friend, animals don't lie.
So you can think that you are.
It doesn't mean you are.
Yes.
If you come from ego, selfishness, and envy, you're not going to be very clear about how you feel.
A lot of times people come from ego saying, I am confident.
But it's ego talking for you versus just being clear about it.
So that's why a dog is a perfect teacher of how you truly feel.
They don't know how to lie.
Only humans lie.
They have no idea how to lie.
They're the most honest friend you will ever have.
Wow.
So how do we train confidence in human beings?
Well, first, before you train,
before you train, awareness needs to rise.
Without awareness, there is no possibilities, right?
And then through that awareness,
then the human takes responsibility.
Then once the human takes responsibility, then you enter into surrender.
That's when you can teach.
You can't teach a mind that knows everything.
That's a fact.
You can't.
So fight, flight, avoid, and surrender.
You can only teach the mind to surrender.
The mind that fights, flight, and avoid, you can't.
Wow. You can't. So once to surrender. The mind that fights, flight, and avoid, you can't. You can't.
You can't.
So once they surrender, they're aware.
Once you surrender, what happens is you open up.
That means you're willing to follow.
There you have it, my friends.
Powerful lessons from the leadership masters.
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