The School of Greatness - 761 Bubba Watson: Golf Star and Humble Champion
Episode Date: February 20, 2019ONCE YOU ACHIEVE YOUR DREAMS, YOU HAVE TO CREATE NEW ONES. Do you remember what you dreamed about when you were little? So often, we get what we always wanted, and then we get greedy. We start wanting... more money and more recognition. But that stuff doesn’t make you happy. It’s time to get your priorities straight. Remember why you started in the first place. On today’s episode of The School of Greatness, I talk with one of the best golfers in the world who is grateful just to be able to play: Bubba Watson. Bubba Watson Jr. is a self-taught professional golfer who is a 12-time PGA Tour Champion. Bubba reached a career-high 2nd place in the Official World Golf Ranking. Bubba is a famous golfer, but he feels the most loved when he is serving. The way he gives back to his community and helps others is truly inspiring. He wants to be a hall-of-fame husband and dad. So get ready to learn how to thrive by spinning your negatives into positives on Episode 761. Some Questions I Ask: When did you realize you had talent? (8:00) Did you ever think you would be an Olympian? (16:00) What did adopting kids do for your career? (22:00) Do you think you would be as successful as you are now without your dad passing? (31:30) What’s your biggest flaw? (39:30) When do you feel the most loved? (43:00) In This Episode You Will Learn: Why golf isn’t about money for Bubba (11:00) About Bubba’s new goal after he accomplished his 10-win PGA Tour goal (15:00) How Bubba’s father’s sickness changed his perspective (28:00) How to spin negatives into positives (35:00) The importance of giving back (48:30) What adoption means to Bubba (53:00)
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This is episode number 761 with two-time Masters champion Bubba Watson.
Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned
lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message
to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.
Melody Beattie said,
Gratitude makes sense of our past,
brings peace for today,
and creates vision for tomorrow.
And Doris Day said,
Gratitude is riches.
Complaint is poverty.
Welcome to a very special interview with Bubba Watson,
who is a top professional golfer on the PGA Tour,
one of the few left-handed golfers on the tour.
He taught himself golf, only had one lesson,
and taught himself the rest, which is a fascinating feat.
He's a multiple major champion with victories
at the Masters Tournament in 2012 and 2014.
He's an Olympian.
He loves doing charity work and giving back to his community,
and he's an all-around good old boy with a big heart.
And in this interview, we talk about the power of focusing on self-improvement over comparing
yourself to others. We talk about the power of gratitude and how it affects mental focus
in peak performance. The impact that losing Bubba's father had on his golf game, and winning perspective.
Bubba's journey with adopting his children
and how his perspective has changed as a father,
and the power of living a life of service
and how he can make a difference, big or small,
by giving love to others.
This and so much more in this inspiring interview.
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So without further ado, let's dive into this one with the one, the only champion, Bubba Watson.
Handball.
Yeah, yeah.
Ranking yourself as an American, how many... American handball?
Yeah.
How many people on the team, first of all?
Well, I mean, there's 16 that they take with us, but it's seven on seven.
So you're saying I got a chance.
You got a chance, yeah.
I'm right there.
They take 16.
I'm about 17th.
Yeah, exactly.
But America, in the world, we're very low.
Yeah.
Probably like, I mean, we can compete for a while,
but these guys play since they're like seven years old, you know,
and they're just like the technicality of like how they move.
It's just like if we played basketball against them, we would win because we're better athletes.
But they just know how to move the ball.
Let's don't word it that way just because anybody's watching this show.
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
But we'd probably be like we can't compete at a world level.
Let's just say that.
Like at the world championships, the Olympics, we would be like in the bottom, like I don't know.
But if they let you go to the Olympics, you're in.
Well, in 2020, what is it, 2028, it's automatic qualifier because it's in the U, like, I don't know. But if they let you go to the Olympics, you're in. Well, in 2020, what is it, 2028,
it's automatic qualifier because it's in the U.S.
So you just got to be able to.
I'm 35 right now, so I'll be, yeah, 45 then.
It'll be tough, but we'll see.
Anything's possible, you know.
Exactly.
Just staying healthy, just trying to.
And we go into the Pan Am Games this year,
so if we win the Pan Am Games, we qualify.
But the South American countries are really good, right?
Chile Argentina Brazil they all play since they're like 70 years old so right
I mean, it's that I play like a few times a year. It's I was gonna say it's very rare in us
There's no pro league. It's all amateur club and it practice like once a week, but I
Truly believe though if people saw it. It's incredible man. It would it would blow up
That's why I saw it in the olympics in 2008 for the first time i just got done playing pro football
and i watched this at like 3 a.m and i was like what is this sport this is amazing and i started
googling and researching there was nothing there was no teams in ohio so i moved to new york city
to play with the club team learned the sport and got on the usa team and then it's just been like
traveling ever since for the last eight years.
That's for fun, you know.
So who, I mean, is it on your own dime?
Like when y'all travel? It's all my own dime, man.
I pay to play with the USA team.
Well, I'll pay.
That means I can make the team?
But for me to wear the USA on my chest and sing the national anthem in Israel
and Brazil and wherever, it's just like, it's amazing for me.
And I'm one of the older guys on the team, you know.
Right.
It's fun, so.
No, I'm with you.
Anytime I can play a team event
with a USA flag on the sleeve.
It's a game changer, man.
Oh my gosh, what a dream.
It's a game changer.
Right.
Never believe it until it happens.
And I never take it for granted.
Every time it happens,
I'm always like,
this could be the last.
Never know.
Yeah, for sure.
It's such a physical game.
He knows.
It's like, guys get injured all the time.
It's just like every time a tournament is done
and I have everything intact, I'm like, thank goodness.
I get bruises everywhere, but it's like as long as I don't break something,
I'm good.
Right.
So my thing is in 2010 was my first Ryder Cup,
and my dad was about to pass away of cancer.
Yeah.
And so he watched me nine days later.
He passed away. Oh, man. And so this got to, he watched me nine days later, he passed away.
And so this year in France, well, last year, whatever,
the last Ryder Cup, my mom was there.
And so I hugged her when I got beat on the final day.
And I said, you know, and I was crying
because not because I got beat.
I got beat many times in golf, right?
So that, I'm used to that.
But it was the emotion of this could be my last time.
And my mom, because that was the last time my dad watched me play.
Last time my family got to bond before he passed away.
And so for me and my mom being there, it was the emotion, the crying,
everything about it was about my dad and my family.
Wow.
Because that could literally be my last one ever.
Really?
Because you never know, right?
Because I'm getting older, you know.
How long do you expect to play for?
I mean, I expect to play for a while.
But at a level to make a Ryder Cup team, I mean, you're talking
about the top 12. They take 12. They take 12 guys. There's four picks, but, you know, if you're not
in the top 30 or so in the world. You don't have a chance. Well, I mean, Tiger Woods always got a
chance. Yeah, yeah. But my name is Bubba Watson, so I don't have a chance.
So that's what I'm saying.
Just at some point, old age catches up and you're not going to,
these young guns nowadays, right?
They're freaks, right?
Right.
Because you're 40 now, right?
I'm 40 now, yeah.
And these guys are 20, 22 are coming in and they're just like,
they're training at a different level.
They had coaches and trainers, sports psychologists at 10 years old.
They don't have wife and kids yet.
Yeah.
They don't have, you know, nothing's wrong with wife and kid.
It's just, it takes away from being the best.
100% energy of the game.
Right.
Focused all on the game.
And most people don't know this if they're not golf fans,
but you essentially taught yourself golf, right?
Yeah.
You taught yourself.
You didn't have, you had like one or two coaching sessions
when you were younger and then.
My dad was the only one.
Let's make sure we put that out there right.
There was no coaches ever. No coaches. It was your dad. Yeah. And I don't
consider my dad a coach. He was our coach. He barely broke 100. He probably shot in the 80s a
few times. So he just taught me the basics. And he said the golf swing, if the ball is in the middle
of your stance, the golf swing is about a foot and a half and a foot and a half. So three foot
is where your golf swing is. Because it's all about knowing where your club face is at impact.
If your club face is open, the ball goes that way.
Club face is closed, goes that way.
So it's all knowing where your club face is.
It's that simple, right?
Just hit it straight down, just hit it straight.
And hit it hard as you can.
That's it.
And then make a putt.
That's it, yeah, no big deal.
When did you realize that you had talent?
How old were you?
Because you were teaching yourself. You were just
kind of hacking the ball around, trying to figure it out. That's a great question. I don't really
think you know as a kid. I think you just focus on what you're doing. And I've sitting plastic
balls around my house. My dad and my mom always said, you have stepping stones. You have a ladder.
So if you can see yourself still improving every year. Won my first tournament at age eight. I
happened to shoot 62 at age 12, I think,
in a tournament. So it's one of those things where I developed, but I wasn't ever focused on
I'm better than you. I was focused on how do I get better? So I just kept trying to get better,
make more birdies. And then Payne Stewart, about age 12, is where I started realizing
golf was on TV. This was before Golf Channel and stuff. And so I watched Payne Stewart,
wanted to be like Payne Stewart.
He stood out to me.
I don't know if he won tournaments,
if he lost tournaments,
but I knew him because of the knickers.
I always knew who that was on TV.
I was like, hey, there's Payne Stewart.
And so for me, that's what it was.
It was, I fell in love with the game
because I saw this guy play.
He stood out to me.
And then obviously I was in high school.
I graduated in 97. Tiger won the Masters in 97. So he stood out to me. That baggy red sweater that
he was wearing, pumping his fist on 18. Then that changed. Getting a free education in college, but
then seeing these guys, guys that I played in the same junior tournaments with winning and performing
in Tiger Woods. That's when I was like, okay, maybe we can do this for a living.
Really? That's where, basically high school is where I really thought living could be a chance.
How often were you training or practicing? Was it daily for hours?
Daily. Yeah. In high school?
Yeah. So my mom would, she'd pick me up. She took her lunch break around 2.30 to pick me up from
school. She'd drop me off. And then my dad would be there around 5.30, 6 at the
golf course. So I'd get nine holes in. I'd chip around, putt and chip around the practice green.
And then I'd just play golf. And then they'd rotate. One would drop me off. One would pick me
up. Wow. Yeah. And how old were you with your first pro tournament? Oh man, first pro tournament.
Gosh, I was out of school. so I had to be 24-ish.
What was that feeling? Because that was the dream for many years. What was the feeling the first
time? The feeling was... Were you terrified? No, actually I wasn't because I've never focused on
money. So most of the time on mini tour golf, the minor leagues, right? It's about money. I mean,
it's 15, back then it was about $1,500 to $2,000 just to play. Wow. And so when you're doing that, basically the winning check was anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000.
So I was never focused on paying bills.
I was never focused on anything except the next level.
The PGA Tour is my level.
So it wasn't about money.
It wasn't about anything except getting better.
So if I got better, I could make it.
So there was not one time I ever had a putt or a shot where I was focused on income. I was always focused on getting better. And so money has never been,
I've never hit a shot going, gosh, look at the money we could have made. So when I had a five
footer to win a small event, I never focused on what this means to me. What it means to me is I'm
getting better, going to the next level. Even in the Masters, you're not thinking of like, okay, if I miss this putt, I'm going to lose an
extra million dollars or make an extra million if I make it. No, because at the end of the day,
you play your sport, right? You played football, now handball. Yeah, yeah. But you played football,
you're focused on Super Bowl. You're focused on getting a contract, right? So when I focused on
the PGA Tour, I focused on getting there., right? So when I focused on the PGA Tour,
I focused on getting there.
I wanted that little card that said,
Bubba Watson, PGA Tour player.
That's all I cared about.
And then after you get that card,
then you think about a trophy.
So if you pull anybody that's playing today,
if you said there was no money,
but you have a Tiger Woods,
you have a chance to still win 80 events
and be one of the greatest or the greatest of all time.
He's gonna say, yeah, I'm in. The money's a byproduct. So you're not really focused on that.
You're focused on the trophies. And if you are focused on the money, you're probably not going
to go this way. You're going to kind of level or... The pressure is going to be too high probably
for thinking about the money. So when you got the pro card, what was that like, that feeling?
I mean, it was like your driver's license. You know what I'm saying? It's exactly the same size
as your driver's license. When you got that'm saying? It's exactly the same size as your driver's license.
When you got that driver's license, you thought you were the man, right?
And so when I got that tour card, like they literally hand you a card,
and it says Bubba Watson, PGA Tour player.
And I remember doing my interview, the lady right next to me, Golf Channel,
and she asked me.
I was the last person to get it.
I barely got it.
I was the last person to get my card that year.
And she asked me, and I didn't get a word out. I cried the whole time. Wow. So she talked to me. I didn't last person to get it. I barely got, I was the last person to get my card that year. And she asked me and I didn't get a word out. I cried the whole time. So she talked to me.
I didn't get one word out. I nodded my head a couple of times, but I cried the whole time,
the whole interview, because that was my life. My whole life leading up to that was that card.
And so, and then now I have to change my goals, right? So I changed my goals. I had a wife at
that time. I still have a wife, but I mean,
at that time, she played professional basketball, so she was all about golf as well. So that was our
dream. That was our dream together to get that card. And so once you achieve one dream,
you said you have to create new goals. Was the goal, I want to win the Masters?
The goal is, we've heard interview after interview after interview is,
win a tournament, get a W.
So win a tournament.
So after I got my card, I was like, can I win a tournament?
But what I did, instead of win a tournament every year, I said 10 wins.
If a person this day and age can get 10 wins, double-digit wins with a talent across the world.
Tiger Woods has pushed it across the world.
So you're talking about young guys from every continent because of Tiger Woods now.
So to get 10 wins is unheard of.
I thought it would be, that'd be leaps and bounds better than I could ever do.
So, I mean, it took me five years to finally get my first win.
Really?
Yeah.
So I started in 06.
So 2010, I got my first win.
And so I never thought it was going to happen.
I was making, I mean, obviously we're making a living paying bills, but never winning.
And so I just wanted to keep winning. I wanted to, I kept going to try to win. And so to finally win was, I was like, oh my gosh, I did it. Did I ever think I'd get the 10
wins? No, but I put it out there in my head, right? Not for the public, but for me in general. And
to get that first one, I was like, oh my gosh, I've won on the PGA tour.
That's crazy.
I mean, a guy named Bubba from Baghdad, Florida.
No lessons.
I mean, you're talking about…
Lefty.
Right.
It can't be done.
And then now sitting with you, two Masters, 12 wins.
It's crazy.
So you've achieved…
And an Olympian, by the way.
Sorry, I forgot that.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
So you've achieved the 10-win goal.
Now you have to create new goals, right?
Right.
What's the new. So you've achieved the 10-win goal. Now you have to create new goals, right? What's the new goal for you?
The progression would be 20, but as I get older, maybe 15.
So 15 would be the new goal.
As I get older, it kind of falls back a little bit.
But three more wins would be, I mean, gosh, I would be set for life.
It's already done something I never thought I could do.
I mean, I's already done something I never thought I could do. I mean,
I want to do it.
I dreamed it.
But to actually
go home and see 12 trophies
is something that you can never even,
and then an Olympic ring too.
Yeah.
You got the ring.
Is it a ring?
Oh, they give you a ring
for making the Olympics.
Oh my gosh,
that's the dream.
Right, exactly.
So, I mean.
Did you ever even think
you'd be an Olympian?
No,
because golf was never in it.
Funny story for some of us, but not for all of us.
But my wife is from Canada playing basketball, 6'3", professional basketball.
The women's Olympic team, women's basketball team there,
finally made the Olympics, but my wife was hurt.
She hurt her knee, so she could never be an Olympian.
The one chance she had, she was on the team.
They had to get a new player in. So she never got to be an Olympian, and now I'm an Olympian. The one chance she had, she was on the team. They had to get a new player in.
So she never got to be an Olympian.
And now I'm an Olympian.
So it doesn't sit well in the house sometimes.
Because she's like, you play golf.
Like, you're an Olympian.
So maybe every once in a while, I bring it up.
Yeah, yeah.
Not in a kind way.
Now, these young guys are just so talented, right?
All these new guys who are 20, 23, whatever.
They train.
They think a different way.
Where do you think you'd be if you were 20 years younger and gone through the same training as them?
Do you think you'd be better off now?
Or do you think you had a mentality that they never had because you didn't have the coaching,
because you didn't have the trainers, because you didn't have the gym technology?
You know, it's a tough one. I wouldn't have to say I would be better off because I would look at it different. Probably wouldn't eat chocolate cake every night, you know?
Right, right. Right? And so I would probably go in the gym. I mean, I didn't go to the gym until
I was 30-something, right? Wow. So I'd probably go to the gym. I'd probably look at it differently.
You know, now we're looking at stats. We're looking at performance. We've got slow motion cameras. We've got all this stuff that you can use. It would definitely,
I'd get there quicker. You know, if I am going to be a champion, I'd probably get there a little
bit faster. But the way I did it, you know, I don't have to worry about a swing thought.
You know, when I'm on AT&T, we're all going to have nerves. But if you're trying to get to like
one of these young kids with coaches,
they're trying to get to a certain position,
you know, under pressure, that might be tough.
But for me, I always just think,
hit it there and end up over there.
I don't think about my swing.
I think about where I want the ball to go.
And so for me, I think that's how my progression was,
was just mentally understanding me as a person
and understanding me as a golfer helped me.
But I think getting to the gym faster, helping me under the gun, deal with nerves, breathing right,
and doing all those certain things that people talk about probably would have helped me a little bit.
But I don't know how much.
I would say it can't hurt.
It wouldn't have hurt me, put it that way.
Yeah.
But the swing mechanics is what messes a lot of people up when they're thinking too much.
Yeah.
It sounds like you're just gripping and ripping it, and you're like, oh, I'm going to just hit it there.
Right. And hopefully I win. Exactly. I mean, that's really what I'm
doing. And I can, I can picture here at Riviera, I can picture the trees on 18 as we sit. So I aim
at those trees and just, we call bleed it off of there, cut it off of there. And that's all I think
about. I go aim at those trees and just bleed it off of there. So I'm not thinking anything else.
I don't, my takeaway, anything. All I'm thinking about is those trees and bleed it off, cut it off of there. So I'm not thinking anything else. I don't, my takeaway, anything. All I'm thinking about is those trees and bleed it off, cut it off of there.
That's it.
And so that's all I think about on that tee shot.
What's the routine like when they call your name or you're going up to set the tee down and drive?
What's the routine and the rhythm like for you? Do you have a specific pattern? Do you have a
specific mindset technique? Do you breathe a certain way? Do you approach it
the same way every time? Truly, it's what I've changed over the last, I would say five, six
years maybe, is my thought processes and focus on, I've done this many times. This is what I love
doing. The Lord's put me in this position. I've been blessed to be here. So no matter if this
goes out of bounds or not, what a great career I've had. Wow. Every time? I'm still a golfer. I mean, yeah, you try to tell yourself that. And then
as that happens, you know, we're talking about the first shot. So you're just focused on that,
getting in the round. And when you get in the round, your thought process changes.
When I'm going down the fairway, I'm going, okay, my ball's over here on the left side,
the pin's on the right. Okay. Is this going to be a draw in here? So I started thinking about
the shot before I even get there. And then these courses that I played year after year,
okay, you can't miss it here. You got to miss it over here. You got to do this. So then your
process changes in your head, but that first tee shot, you're just, you're trying to just relax
yourself and hit it good because you want to hit a great shot, but we're all going to mess up.
You just hope your mess ups are less than all the other people's mess ups.
Not in the woods.
Right. Exactly.
So you really focus on gratitude and focus on like, I'm just grateful to be here.
I'm blessed to be here.
Like, I'm still here.
I'm playing with the best in the world.
You focus on that first.
Yeah.
Do you focus on also like, I'm here to win.
You know, I'm going all out.
Truthfully, I've never focused on winning.
Now, the last six holes, maybe the last nine holes, yes, of the 72-hole tournament.
But I've never went to the tournament going, I have to win this one,
or I should win this one, or I'm going to win this one.
Because I can play my best golf, or I can have the best attitude.
I can do everything.
But what if it's a rookie, right?
What if you're a rookie and you have your best rounds ever?
So you beat me.
I did nothing wrong, but you just had your best tournament ever. So I'm happy. So I need to be happy with what I did.
And I can't focus on what you did. You know, shake your hand and say, man, you beat me.
Right. Next week, we're going to do it again. Yeah. And so that's where, you know, the first
five years or so, my childish upbringing, you know, focused on the wrong things. And so that's where my mental
side changed of thinking about me as a kid again, going, this card was the most, the greatest thing
that's ever happened to me in golf. And so sometimes we lose that, right? As an athlete,
we focus on why not me? Why didn't I make that putt? Why didn't I win that trophy? Why did I
hit it in the water here? Instead of going, you know what? I'm just blessed to be here.
Looking at that PGA Tour card again.
That's cool.
So your mindset has shifted a lot, it sounds like.
Yeah, it shifted a lot, especially with a wife and then with kids and everything.
You adopted two kids, right?
Adopted two kids, yeah.
What did that do for your career when you started adopting kids and having more of a complete family as opposed to just you and your wife?
Do you feel like that served you in a bigger way
in your performance?
Or was the time and energy and thought process
something that was a struggle or a challenge at times?
We've talked about,
because we knew from first started dating,
we're going to have to adopt to have a family.
And so my childish ways,
when I first turned pro thinking I need this, I got to have this and have a family. And so my childish ways, when I first turned pro,
thinking I need this, I got to have this, and I want this.
I'm practicing.
Why am I not winning?
And, you know, the mindset of why not me?
Why is everybody else winning and I'm not?
Your first five years, right?
Right.
And I hit it further than everybody.
I can do this.
I can move the ball.
I can do stuff that people can't do.
So why am I not winning?
And so it's the childish, young and dumb, I guess you would say, you know, and then, you know, the wife standing
beside me the whole time, cheering me on and trying to help me in a loving way. And then my
dad getting sick in 09, we had a scare with my wife too, thought she was having some issues too.
So she, we had some scans on her head all at the same time. And so that nine months that he lived after we found out, we found out
in November. Throat cancer. And so that year we were going to different doctors for her
and with my dad. And then for some reason, my whole thing was about perspective. And
in my head, I'm arguing that I'm not winning, but my wife's going
through something. Luckily, it turned out to be nothing. My dad's going through something. My
whole family's going through something. And the one bright spot for us was watching me play golf.
Wow. So when I got inside the ropes, everything went away because I went back to focusing on
me and the golf ball. And my family got to throw
everything away and focus on watching me at a golf tournament. And so in 2010, somehow I win
the Travelers. And now I'm 18th on points trying to make the Ryder Cup team. And I'm like, oh my
gosh, if I top 10 here with double points at the PGA Championship, I can make the Ryder Cup team
and get picked. I just won and then have another good finish. And I lose in a playoff. And so
first question, they interviewed me after losing in a playoff. They said, whatever they asked,
didn't matter what they asked because I could care less. I said, I'm not answering the question
until did I make the Ryder Cup team? That was my comment to them.
And they said, you went from 18th to third because the points doubled.
So by coming in second, it doubled the points.
Wow.
So I went from 18th to third.
So obviously, I made the team.
And so, yeah, exactly.
So now, you know, I get to call my dad.
So now I do the interview.
Who knows what the interview is about?
I was like, yeah, man, I lost.
I made the Ryder Cup team.
Who cares?
And so it wasn't about money. It wasn't about career. It was about, I made the Ryder Cup team. My dad gets to see me.
My dad was drafted in Vietnam. So he was in the war, had some shrapnel on his back still. So there's a lot of things, history there. And me getting to put the United States flag on my
shoulder and represent our country. Win or lose, who cares? It was about representing our country
and my dad getting to watch this. And so, I mean, there's so many things that changed my attitude around that time
period. And then him passing and then winning twice the next year and then winning in 12. I mean,
so it just, I think all that freed me up and made me realize what life was about. And about,
it was about that card again. It was about, this is what I wanted to do as a kid.
It's not about the money. It's not about bills. It's not about this. It's not about that cardigan. It was about, this is what I wanted to do as a kid. It's not about the money.
It's not about bills.
It's not about this.
It's not about the trophies.
It was about, I made it to this one place.
And so I think with the sicknesses
and all the stuff going on in our family,
it made me realize, man, you're going at this the wrong way.
You winning, who cares if you win?
You don't have to worry about bills.
You don't have to worry about anything.
Your mom is taken care of now because your dad's not there. 42 years they were together
and not having a man there anymore. So just all this stuff. And then in 12, so we started the
adoption process in nine as well, but then we put it on hold because of my dad. So then in 12,
we get this call and do you want this boy? so we were like yeah but I'm at a golf tournament
so like this is this is Wednesday morning of a golf tournament I had to make the decision
it was Bay Hill so I had to make the decision but then we realized in that short time that
can't leave the state of Florida because our adoption process with our lawyers weren't wasn't
all the way complete so we had to lease a house. We had to do all these things.
No way.
And so Monday, this was a Wednesday.
Monday is when we picked them up.
So we had to find a house.
We had to find furniture.
We had, I mean, we had to do all this stuff.
And I finished fourth.
Tiger Woods won, by the way.
But I finished fourth.
But again, why did I finish fourth?
I was playing great.
Don't get me wrong.
But I was so focused on inside the ropes.
It was all about golf.
And then outside the ropes, it was chaos.
Wow. And so then a week and a half later, we win the masters in 12. So that's what I'm saying. Like it just, we can have after you adopted after adopted. So I was only with him.
I was only with him three nights because I had to fly back to Arizona to, to do some adoption
with lawyers and my home study and all this, all this junk, not junk, but all this stuff with it.
And then I flew back to
Florida. Grandparents are there now. My mom's there. Her parents came from Canada. And then I
said, hey, and she looks at me and she goes, look, you're playing really good at golf right now.
Go to the Masters early. So I said, okay. And my father-in-law from Canada is like,
I'll go with him. And then my mom was like, well, look, other grandma's here.
I'll go with you too.
It's Augusta.
So we went to Augusta and, you know, I win.
It was just a whirlwind.
But I think, again, like I said, nine is where it hit me.
What's most important, right?
Like, I mean, you can always downsize house.
You could always go to a cheaper car. You could
figure out a way to get a real job instead of this glamorous life of golf when all this family
stuff happened. So how blessed, truly blessed are you in 09? And I think that's just freed me up
mentally to be like, man, if I win, that's awesome. If I lose, man, I tried my best.
And so I just changed.
And I think that's really what changed me over those first four years.
Wow.
I guess I matured in those first few years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hate to say it, but my dad's sickness changed who I am as a person.
In what ways?
But I think it's because of how I thought about things.
Not golf, but other things as well.
And you're using this negative as a positive,
you know, changed how my mom thought,
changed how my mom saw things,
changed how my whole family saw things and did things.
And so you have to use a negative to a positive.
And that's what we try to do as a family,
but I try to do.
What was the biggest lesson your dad taught you?
Oh, gosh.
There's a couple that stand in mind.
I'm going to tell you two because I just always change it up.
But the first one was never lie.
He said, I don't care how much it's going to hurt somebody.
You tell the truth.
He goes, because it's going to be better than not telling the truth.
He always said, if he found out later that I was lying to him.
He's going to whoop your butt.
Right.
We don't do that.
But you'd be in more trouble.
And he said, as a poor person, all you have is the truth. And if people can't trust you, then you have nothing. Wow. So I've always told the truth wrong, right? Sometimes it might come
across a little mean, but I always tell the truth. And then second one, he, without saying a word, when he left the room, left the house,
he kissed my mom goodbye. And when he came home, first thing he did, kiss my mom. And so I always
saw that, always remembered that. And it was a way to see that he truly loved, they truly loved each
other. So now when I leave the house and come back, there's no words. I just say,
bye, I love you and give her a kiss. And then when I come back, it's a kiss before I do anything
else. I don't care if the kids are screaming, dad, let's do this. Let's do that. I find my wife,
I give her a kiss. Then I do whatever the kids want to do then. But it's something that always
stuck with me and seeing a loving couple, a loving family,
no matter how upset they were at each other, they could be upset at each other, but he would kiss her goodbye before he stormed out. It was one of those things where I'm leaving, but I love you.
And he walked out, right? So those are the two things that stick with me today.
Wow. So he got to watch you win.
And play in the Ryder Cup yeah play in the
Ryder Cup he didn't get to see the Masters right he went to the Masters one time so Boo Weekly
Heath Slocum they're from my hometown they're five years older than me so we didn't play in high
school golf together but we all went to the same high school yeah so those were my idols growing
up those are people I saw every day playing golf. And so they've won on tour
and now I've won. So us three went to the same high school. We've all won at least three times
on tour and we all made the masters in 08. It's crazy. So my dad went to the masters only in 08.
I didn't make the masters in 09. So yeah, he got to go, but he couldn't walk. He had rheumatoid
arthritis, had some health issues, so he couldn't walk.
So he sat behind number nine green.
You can see 18.
You can see one, nine, 18, and 10.
And so yeah, that's the only time he got to go.
Do you think you would be as successful as you are now without your dad passing?
Oh man, that's a good question.
If he was totally healthy.
If he was totally healthy and none of this ever happened, I mean, gosh, let's just say no.
I think I spun it for me.
I spun it to a positive real fast.
And my wife going through a health scare.
We went to many doctors, brain scans on her gland right here.
So I think all of that, just when you spin it, we can spin everything we want, right?
We can spin it negative.
We can spin it positively.
And, you know, going back to losing this playoff to win the PGA Championship, my first major.
If I'd have won that, what would have happened?
Would I have ever won the Masters?
You know what I'm saying?
Like it just spitballs, right?
So I would have to say I wouldn't be as successful if my dad was still here.
What's the—
And I know that sounds negative, but, I mean, I'm just saying, like, I don't know if I would have hit maturity,
the maturity button real fast. It's interesting because I, my dad's still alive, but he got in a
really bad car accident about, man, when was this? Like 13 years ago. And he was in a coma for three
months. We had to teach him how to walk and talk. It took, you know, he's still recovering and he
still has amnesia and he forgets a lot.
So my dad's alive, but he's not really my dad the way I used to know him.
The conversations are different.
He's not emotionally available, really.
It's not that he doesn't want to be.
It's like the brain injury he had.
And I remember I used to always kind of rely on him for so much.
Financially, as a younger guy playing football in college,
like he would just take care of me.
He was like, just train.
I'll take care of you.
When you're done playing ball, come work with me.
And when he had that injury, it was like everything changed.
And I remember thinking like, I've got to figure this stuff out now.
Like I don't have my dad, emotional support.
I can't really communicate with him the same way.
Financially, all these things changed.
And I look back and I'm like, if he didn't get injured, there's no way I'd be living the lifestyle, have the business success, would be impacting people the way I do.
None of this would be happening, I don't think.
Right.
And it's like, huh, I'd much rather him be healthy and available in the way that I knew him to be.
But at the same side, I'm also like
spinning it to be like, but I also get to do something greater that I probably would have
never done. Right. It's crazy, right? Right. For sure. I remember my dad after I won Travelers
in 2010, you know, I called him, we were on the 16th hole. So I had to drive, we had to drive
back to 18 after I, cause I won on 16. And so I'm calling him. We didn't get a word out. We were crying, you know, and said, I loved you and all that stuff.
And the next day I was going somewhere to another event.
I called him.
Hey, Dad, how are you doing today?
You know, and because he's at any moment, it could have happened.
And so he goes, hey, are you practicing?
I said, no, Dad, I'm going to the tournament.
I'm taking today off.
He goes, you shouldn't take today off.
You got to keep practicing. And I remember that. Like, that's I'm going to the tournament. I'm taking today off. He goes, you shouldn't take today off. You got to keep practicing.
And I remember that.
That's what he always said to me.
I don't care how good you did.
You got to keep practicing.
Those other guys are practicing.
And so that stuck with me when you're thinking about dads and stuff.
That's one.
The very next day, I got the trophy.
I got the trophy in my car where we're going.
And he's like, you practicing?
No, dad, I just woke up.
I'm going to the next tournament.
Well, they're practicing.
Wow.
But it was like, it wasn't mean.
It was just, he was basically giving me a mindset.
Look, is this it?
Are you going to work harder?
Are you going to try to get another one?
So that's powerful.
Yeah.
How important is adversity in your life?
Do you look for adversity?
Because you know it's going to
ultimately make you stronger and probably make you better with your mindset?
You know, as a human being... We want to play. We want to be comfortable.
Right. As a human being, I falter a lot. And I look at the negatives. I mean, right now,
negative sales on TV, right?
Not this, but everything else.
And so negative sales, right?
And that's what gets the clickbait,
as we want to call it, right?
And so I fall in that trap, you know?
Like, gosh, I just three putted, man.
I'm never going to be a good putter again.
I'm never going to, I hit that ball in the water.
I am terrible at golf, you know?
Then my kids yell at me and I'm like,
man, I'm a terrible dad.
A horrible dad, yeah. And then my wife looks at me, I'm like, I'm a terrible husband, you know? So like, you always look at golf. And other than my kids yell at me and I'm like, man, I'm a terrible dad. I'm a terrible dad, yeah.
And other than my wife looks at me,
I'm like, I'm a terrible husband.
So like you always look at that.
Now, if you look six months ahead,
you forget all about what happened
because you got other issues,
you got other things going, right?
Or it could be positive in six months.
That could be another win
or it could be a birthday of a child.
It could be whatever it is,
but you forgot all
about that last six months. And so I don't look for adversity. I don't want adversity. But when
you think about it, what you're going through is minor because there's somebody always going
through worse. And whatever that situation is, somewhere in the world, there's somebody going
through worse and you can find them real fast who's going through worse. And so for me, I don't
look for it, but yeah, I mean, if you look deep when you think you're going through something
really bad, you can definitely spin it to a positive real fast. Yeah. What has being a dad
taught you about being a better golfer and being a better human? Oh my gosh, just alone. I mean,
now with YouTube and people wanting to get their phones out and make fun of
you and the commentators wanting to tell you how you're yelling at people, I got to change my tune
real fast. Golf is the one place where I'll use a word that you shouldn't use real fast.
With this day and age with cameras and stuff. And if you're going to call yourself a Christian,
don't get me wrong,
by calling myself a Christian doesn't mean I'm perfect.
You're not a perfect human being?
No, I don't know about you, but.
I'm not perfect at all. Right, but that's what I'm saying.
So like, for me, I'm not perfect.
And so that's why I need help.
And, but my child, both now,
Dakota doesn't really know TV and YouTube yet
or any of that stuff, but Caleb's
starting to understand it and getting what we're talking about. And so for me, knowing he could be
looking or years down the road, this is going to be sitting on the web somewhere. It helped me
again, like in 2009, it helped me focus on catching myself, trying to be better. Golf is the one that
always brings it out. There's no
other time I can think of in my life where I want to just freak out. So frustrating, right? Right.
Exactly. It's unbelievable. And I'm probably thankful that my son's not into golf yet because
he'll probably freak out too. Do you feel like you're more under control now than five or 10
years ago with your reactions when something doesn't go as planned? Oh, for sure. Definitely better. That doesn't mean I'm good. You know, my thing is I always joke about is if you were doing
something wrong 100 times a day, right? The next day on Tuesday, instead of Monday, you're down in
99. You've improved. I'm never near perfect at 99 bad things, but if I can improve,
if we go six months from now, man, you're down to 95 bad things. We've improved. And I'm not
saying this improvement is going to happen overnight or you're never going to be the
perfect human being. But my goal is to try as hard as I can. And if my trying lets my kid or my kids or my friends or my wife, for that matter, improve their own self.
Then we're doing something in the right direction.
Yeah.
What's your biggest, let's call it a flaw or thing you need to work on in your marriage as a father and as a golfer?
That's simple.
They all work together.
I need to read more.
Because reading, for me personally,
it's the mental part, right?
It's to be clocked in.
When I'm on the road, I want to play video games
because I want to space out.
Fortnite?
I don't play.
I play Call of Duty.
Only Call of Duty.
I want to get the headset on and yell at my friends.
You can swear there, right?
Right.
I don't.
I don't.
Because they record that too. I'm so good in't, I don't. Because they record that too.
I'm so good in that.
I don't remember.
Golf is the only, golf is a bad sport.
It's a great sport, but it's very bad for everybody.
So I want to space out.
And then when I get home, a lot of times I focus on,
when I'm at home, I focus more on golf.
Man, look at all these guys playing this week.
Why am I taking this week off? The weather's perfect over there, you know? And then when I'm on home, I focus more on golf. Man, look at all these guys playing this week. Why am I taking this week off?
The weather's perfect over there, you know?
And then when I'm on the golf course, I'm like,
oh man, I wish I was with my kids.
I wish I was with my wife.
And so by reading more, reading these books more,
reading the Bible more, it shows you and teaches you.
It makes you focus on the positive instead of the negative.
And a lot of times I focus on the negative.
And so I believe all of that helps me in life. And I think over the last,
gosh, I read my first book recently. Gosh, what's the name of it? I don't know. But anyway,
it's 300 pages. It took me about three months to get through it. 20 minutes a day. I gave myself
20 minutes a day. So I woke up 20 minutes early and started reading. Man, it took me forever to
understand the book. What was it about?
It was about just life. Gosh, what's the name of the book? I'm terrible. That's how bad I am at reading.
Tell me later, yeah.
Right, exactly.
So reading more.
Reading more.
What were reading do for you?
Truthfully, it's a boring message, but I want to read more about Christ-centered stuff. I want to
focus on being a better person. The Bible tells you to love all people. So if you
love all people, you're not going to honk the horn when somebody cuts you off. It was funny. I heard
that today. I honked it for at least a minute and a half. In LA? Oh my gosh. It was so much fun.
I was like, yes, I'm better than that person. No, that's not what I was meant to say.
But no, it's just the thing. If you love all people and you're focused on helping other people and not worried about the self-centeredness of myself,
what can you do for me, right?
A lot of times we go into that mindset.
When I say we, me, go into that mindset.
And I got to focus more on my wife.
If I'm focused on my wife and making her happy,
and she was reading the same book and she's focused on making me happy,
what a relationship that would be.
And I think I'm the one that's lacking in that part.
And so to get better there, my kids will see that.
They're going to feel the energy.
They're going to see it.
We're going to be a light for them.
And so that helps there.
And then with the right processes in the game of golf,
the same help and all this other stuff is going to help me in golf.
It's going to relax me.
And if that means losing every week but enjoying the game that I truly do love. I mean, I play it every day at home. So what is
a trophy going to do for me? Except right on my mantle, you know what I'm saying? So like,
truthfully, the book, the reading, the things that I want to read are going to help me in all areas
of life. Is it going to win me more tournaments? I can't tell you that answer,
but it's not going to hurt me to think better. When do you feel the most loved in your life?
Oh, when I feel the most loved? Oh man, I can't answer that question, but I can answer it this way. At church, I just served for the first time at my church. And all it was was at the preschool desk.
So the kids can go to Sunday school or their little classes.
We'll call it Sunday school.
And the parents go up to the sanctuary and listen to the message.
And for me, checking them in and then taking the kids to their little classes.
And the pastor, he's a new pastor, young pastor, has three kids, but his wife is away.
And so he's a man trying to take care of three kids and trying to lead the church, right?
He's 36 years old.
And so we happened to part because I was going to serve, me and my wife were going to serve.
And so I said, hey, man, you need some help.
He goes, yes, I do.
I mean, the kids' hairs were everywhere.
So I took them and me and my wife took them.
And so truly, I felt more love then,
but I think it's more of a satisfaction for me. Being in service, you mean? Right. Being in
service and helping. It's not like, I don't think there's anything you can do that makes me feel
more loved. It's me really just doing it myself. That sounds really bad, but it's more of how I can
use my platform. God has given me this platform, and how do I use it?
And making a smile on somebody's face shows me love in general because I helped them.
And the pastor was like, yeah, man, can you help me?
I got to go get the message ready.
I got to get this stuff ready.
He said, yeah, man, I'll take your kids.
And so we took them.
And so him just going, yeah, man, you can help.
So he didn't even give me like a real smile.
And so that made me feel like I was doing something,
doing a part to help somebody in a small way.
But it just, it was, you know, my wife telling me she loves me
and my wife always being there, cooking meals
and making sure everything's right,
making sure I get my 12 hours of sleep at a golf tournament.
Yeah, I feel loved, don't get me wrong,
but we actually talked about it after the church service.
It was, I was like, man,
how much better do you feel serving?
We just became members of the church.
It was the first time we could serve,
be a part of the church.
And so it was an eye-opening experience,
but a fun experience.
So I don't know how to answer your question.
When was this?
This was actually yesterday.
Yesterday?
Yeah.
So you're 40 years old.
I didn't know when this aired,
so I didn't want to start playing time. So you're 40 right now. Nobody Yeah. So you're 40 years old. I didn't know when this aired, so I didn't want to just start playing time.
No, it's okay.
So you're 40 right now.
Nobody's watching.
You're 40 years old.
Right.
You don't feel, this is fascinating to me that your answer was, after I win the Masters
and everyone's celebrating me and the trophy and everyone's interview and money and checks
and love and hugs, you said when I was serving a couple of preschool kids.
Right. And the church.
Because truthfully, I look at life differently. I grew up differently, right? I don't know how
some people grew up, but some people grew up, they have to be the best. They have to be the
greatest. And as we've seen in many sports and many businesses, there's been trying to use
advantages to get to a level, right? Because of big contracts.
But I've never been motivated by the money. I've never been, nobody's ever going to dangle money
in front of me and say, Bubba, do you want to do this? No, I've turned down big deals. I've turned
down traveling out of the country for big deals because that's not what motivates me. Don't get
me wrong. I'm not going to turn down a check if you're handing it out, but that's not what motivates me. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going
to turn down a check if you're handing it out, but that's not what motivates me. And as I've had
the kids and my wife and the things we've been able to accomplish and be a part of and help,
the Masters helps me personally because again, as a kid, I wanted to win it. And I think after I won in 12,
I think my quote was, I've never dreamed this far.
Wow.
Because now we're in the media
and all these people are looking at me,
waiting for my great advice
I'm about to give the world, right?
But my dream as a kid,
you're making a 10-foot putt to win the Masters.
And that's all you, as a 12-year-old,
you don't know about money, fame, social
media at that time, because social media wasn't even out at that time. Big house, more debt. I
mean, you don't think about all this stuff. More family members that call you. Hey. You want
something. Right. And so your dream ends. You're catching a touchdown pass. You're throwing a
touchdown pass to win. And that's it. You win the Super Bowl. That's it. You don't go past that.
That's your dream. Right. Or I didn't. I didn't think about a car. I didn't think about this,
a house or that or that or a boat. I thought, win the Masters. My life is set. That's what I
dreamed about. And so when I did win it, I realized that dream doesn't work out the same way I had it
in my head. And so that's why I don't feel like people telling me how great I am on social media,
people telling me how great I am on the golf channel or ESPN.
I don't listen to it.
I don't want to be too positive, too high.
I don't want to be too low.
I want to just stay right here.
My goal is to win as many tournaments as I can for my own self, not for you or anybody else.
So, yeah, I don't really feel love after a, because Monday morning,
they're off to the next tournament. They're focused on who's going to win the next one.
That's right.
They'll dog me just as fast as I do.
I know. You lose the next one, they say, oh, it was a fluke.
Yeah, he just got lucky.
Yeah. So is this a new awakening or a new awareness that yesterday this happened,
or is this something you've been doing for a while, like serving other people,
whether it be the church or using your platform for good and feeling that sense of love
and connection to something greater?
I've always tried to help, charity-wise.
I remember-
Donated a lot for hospitals and other charities.
Yeah, and even starting out
when I was first on the mini tours,
I didn't have any money, right?
I had a pocket change, but it was my first job ever,
so I thought I was rich, you know what I'm saying?
A couple thousand bucks in my bank account. And so I used to sponsor a little college tournament, a women's
college golf tournament in my hometown. And it was two grand. And you're talking about $2,000.
I was like, you know what? I'm going to do it. And so like, I just did it. And I did it for years
until they canceled the tournament. So for me, it was, it was, it's something I've always done, but like starting to serve and serve
in a community. And I wanted, I moved back to my hometown because I wanted to be part of the town.
I didn't want to be Bubba Watson. I wanted to be a citizen. I wanted to be part of this town. I
want to get involved in this town. And like you said, the hospital, the children's hospital came
up and I want to be a part of it.
How do I move back?
It was a two-year process to move back home.
And how do you do that?
How do you get involved with the city?
How do you try to give back as much as the city gave to me?
And when I say that, the city raised me.
The city of Pensacola, when I say Pensacola, it's Santa Rosa and Escambia County, Milton, Baghdad, Pace, Pensacola.
They all raised me. There was somebody
at that time that paid for these tournaments that I could play for free or for small amounts of
money that my parents could afford. So when I think about that now, as a golfer or not as a
golfer, I want to give back. And my profession just happens to be a golfer. So I give back to
the game of golf, the children's hospital, different organizations around the country, around the world that we've been involved in. It's been a dream. And that,
that the, the masters is personal, but don't get me wrong. I know that that master's win helps me
in my platform and being involved in, in organizations that give back. And now with
the adoption that we've been talking about, adoption processes that we went through the
struggles, the happiness, the sadness. And that's why we teamed up with now with the adoption that we've been talking about, adoption processes that we went through, the struggles, the happiness, the sadness.
And that's why we teamed up now with Jockey is to be a part of that with the adoption stories that they have from their own family and company to help.
And so this is just another avenue for us to get our word out and use our platform from the right way to impact lives.
And so that means more to me.
My business side of winning golf tournaments does help the
platform and helps the money side and everything. But it's only a personal gain to get that jacket
or get a trophy. It's nice though. But yeah, yeah. Right. It's nice. But I've never been in my room
and when people come over and go, hey, you want to go see my trophy? You know what I'm saying?
I don't do it. Now, if they ask, I mean, yeah, let's go look at the master's trophy. I mean, I have one master's trophy. It's at the University
of Georgia. It's in the golf room, the golf locker room down at the golf course. So, they have it
there on display. Again, because by seeing that trophy, maybe one of the Georgia guys gets
inspired. You know, maybe he turns out to be the world's greatest golfer of all time. He gets
inspired because he saw the trophy, but then he gives back using his platform. I mean, Tiger Woods is Phil Mickelson. I mean, we can see Jack
Nicholas, Arnold Palmer. Their golf is great, but what they've been able to impact off the course
is mind-blowing and is amazing. And what are you doing with jockeying specifically right now?
What's that partnership been like? Well, I mean, I'm an underwear model now. I like it, man. Yeah,
who doesn't want that, right? I can tell everybody I'm an underwear model. I'm not in shape as all
the other ones, but man, I'm there. Yeah, man. Again, like I said, the adoption process,
it's about how do we, the foundation is all about helping them. And right now the campaign is show
me what's underneath or show them what's underneath. Sorry. So for me, it's our story,
me and my wife's story. So not exactly show them what's underneath. Right, So for me, it's our story, me and my wife's story.
So not exactly show them what's underneath.
Right, right. It's showing what's underneath and about helping these kids, right? A kid is not asked to be in a situation. All of our families, they're somewhere down the line in the history
of our families. There's been some situations, right? And so for us, our two kids alone,
we want to teach them about their family, the birth moms.
We don't know the birth dads, but we know the moms.
And so the right time and the right moment
when they're 18 or older,
I will help them meet their parents.
I guess not their parents, but their birth mom.
If they want to, it's their choice.
It's totally fine. I want to teach them about their family and how much they want to. It's their choice. It's totally fine.
I want to teach them about their family and how much they were loved,
and that's why this happened.
But what Jockey's doing and what they're passionate about,
and for good reason, is that the adoption process doesn't stop
when the kid comes home with you because there's going to be questions.
Now what do I do?
There could be mental problems when you tell them what happened.
There's a lot of things that could happen behind the scenes that people don't think about.
You just think about the adoption, and oh, it's beautiful.
You know, my son's running around.
It's a beautiful story.
But there's other things that could happen, might happen.
But then there's other things for like me in general as the parent.
It's how do I, you know, I need somebody to talk to.
You've been through this.
Tell me the insight. How do I break the story? How do I deal I, you know, I need somebody to talk to. You've been through this. Tell me the insight.
How do I break the story?
How do I deal with this?
How do I show love to him?
How do I teach him and not get upset if he wants to go see his mom?
Or how do I?
There's a lot of unanswered questions that we haven't even dealt with yet.
But at the same time, our inspirational story, I think it's inspirational, we tell them so that maybe there is a family that's going, you know what?
Maybe we should adopt a child and help a child in need.
Because back in the 80s, 70s, even adoption was not talked about very much.
It was from my side, I've never been tested to see if I could have a kid,
but we knew for a fact my wife couldn't have kids.
And so I've never been tested.
I mean, I could be not able to have a kid.
But from the man's side, just because that's the side I know, I mean, it would be tough, especially,
you know, the old, in the old days when people would be like, oh, you can't have your own kid.
You know, people, those nasty jokes that people would say to you. And so I think we're trying to
shine a light on this. And I think there's celebrities all over the world that have done
this in a beautiful way about adopting. And the adoption is not just for you. It's for helping
a child that could be the president of the United States one day, could be a doctor, it could be
cure something, could be anything. And so that's really our story. That's why we want to get on
board so we can help. But then it also, I think it's helping us more because of the fact that
these events that Jockey does is we get to sit there and
listen to families and shed tears with families talking about their story and their ups and downs
and our ups and downs and how much they truly match up. It doesn't matter what you do in life,
no matter how high of a celebrity people think you are, you have the same issues as they're
going through. So Jockey, what they're doing right now in their initiative, I get to be an
underwear model, but for them, it's building these bridges to match people up. No matter where
you are in life, that you have other people going through the same issues and you're trying to work
together. And I think it's a beautiful love story about our world, right? We should all be trying
to help. And all we're doing is just trying to help kids. We wanted a family, but at the same
time, we're learning so much more from our kids and from Jockey and what they're trying to help kids. We wanted a family, but at the same time, we're learning so much more from our kids
and from Jockey and what they're trying to create
than we could ever imagine.
It was all about us.
It was selfish, right?
We want a family.
But then we're looking at this going,
gosh, man, how much are we gonna learn from this?
How much better are we gonna be as a couple
and as a family learning from this,
from these beautiful kids that were so loved that they were given up for adoption.
Wow.
I love the way you reframe it.
They were so loved they were given up for adoption.
Right.
My wife says it best, that they were born in somebody else's womb.
They were knitted in somebody else's womb and given to us.
And so for us, it's, I mean, and like I tell Caleb, I read to him and I say prayers with him every night.
And Angie's with me.
And so for us, we pray with him.
And I always try to explain to him.
I say, one day you're going to realize how blessed and how lucky we all are in this situation. Because at six years old, he doesn't understand yet.
But he started asking a few questions because some random people will walk up and go,
oh, is this your adopted son?
And my son's like, what's adoption?
I'm like, oh, gosh, why do y'all have to say stuff like that?
But, yeah, so no, I mean, it's a, for us personally, the inspirational story of our kids.
What we're going to learn from them is way more than what they're going to learn from us, you know.
Yeah.
Especially if they see YouTube of me being angry.
I'm not a parent, but I know being a parent is challenging in its own way.
Do you think being a parent who's adopted kids is even more challenging?
If so, what's the differences?
The only challenge that I've seen right now is, you know, because we can talk to her parents.
We can talk to my mom about their upbringing, right?
Because they had their kids, and so they had us.
And so we can talk to them about the upbringing. But the only challenge for us so far has been every time we've adopted,
we've had about a week, maybe a little bit less than a week to prepare.
But if you have nine months, if you have nine months to get
and get your friends and your family to buy all your gifts,
but we don't have nine months.
Like in Florida, he couldn't leave Florida.
So the Masters is coming up.
I was playing good. I won twice the year before. So they're going to be like, why is your wife not
here, Bubba? So we had to come out and say, we've adopted this child. Can't leave the state right
now and blah, blah, blah. And so that was the only challenge that I've seen that's different from
having your own child to adoption and in red tape, right? Like the tape of taking this child home,
the government asking questions. You can have your own child without any questions asked. But then having a,
you have to show that you're in love. You have to show that you're going to be a loving home.
I don't know how you show that. You know what I'm saying? Like it's out of you. And then when
they want to see my bank account, I didn't get that. But you know, there's a lot of things that
you're like, why do you need to see my bank account?
Because people can have babies without any money.
Poor, broke.
Right.
And so a lot of it didn't make sense to us.
But in the very end product of this whole thing, it's well worth it.
Yeah.
So that would be the only difference is that we didn't have the nine months to prepare.
So.
A couple questions left for you.
But before I get into those questions, what can people do to be a part of this campaign
or to if they're looking to adopt, what do you recommend?
Well, I think you would just look up Jockey.
I mean, you go to Jockey.com or you'd go to Jockey's foundation website.
We were selling bears for a while and we probably still are.
And these bears, all the money goes back to the foundation.
And it's all about encouraging people with the adoption
and then encouraging people that have adopted
to get involved so you can have a shoulder to cry on.
I mean, it's a community.
You're trying to create,
they're trying to create a community
and a beautiful community
that's all trying to do the same thing
is help these kids.
And then help families dealing with situations.
That's the easiest way
is look up jockeying,
look up Jockey Foundation
and go that way
and go that route.
And whatever you want to give,
I don't care if it's a dollar,
it's still,
you're given to try to help
as much as you can.
That's cool.
That's cool.
This question is called
the three truths.
Three truths.
I can't lie.
I know, right?
I ask this at the end
of every interview.
Can I change that one thing?
Yeah, I do lie.
So imagine this is your final day on earth. At some point, you're going to have to pass on and
move on to the next phase of wherever we go, right? You can be as old as you want.
Perfect.
You can be 500 years old.
Oh, but it's a lot longer than today.
Exactly. Eventually, you get to choose the day. It's the final day, okay? You've accomplished everything you want.
The pro card was all you wanted, but you've done so much more.
You've seen your family blossom and do everything they want to create.
You've lived the life of your dreams.
But it's your last day.
Gosh, I feel like I'm dying now.
This is many years from now.
Many years from now.
It's your last day. And for whatever reason, all of your trophies and videos and content that you've put out in the world, it has to go with you.
So no one has access, fortunately, to all the swear words on videos and everything else, right?
But you get to leave behind a piece of paper that you write down three truths on.
Three things, lessons, or ideas or truths that you would want
the world to remember you by and your experience in your life by. So what would be your three truths?
You know, this is a lot deeper than my education, so I got to figure this out.
Does it matter how long the sentence is on this? Perfect. You can tell the whole story if you want
to. Right, perfect. I'll tell the whole story. The first one would have to be the Bible.
And the reason why I believe in the Bible so much
and why I think this is important to this
is because I don't care if you're a believer of Jesus, God.
I think if you look at this Bible,
the Bible gives us a plan.
I'm an athlete, so I'll say game plan of life.
If you believe the Bible and you believe
in Jesus, great. If you don't, it still gives you a, if you read the stories, gives you a game plan
how to treat people. So number one is the reading the Bible. Believer or non-believer, that doesn't
matter to me. It's the game plan of life that can teach you love all people,
follow the laws of this land.
But the main one is love all people.
If you treat everybody with love and respect,
non-believer or believer, the world's a better place.
So I think it's a perfect game plan.
The Bible teaches you a perfect game plan.
So number one. Number two, truth. Oh, man,
there's some funny ones I want to say, but I'll get blessed. So I'm not going to say it. Always
tell the truth. We've been dealing with some stuff about people stretching the truth lately.
We'll say it that way. So we've been dealing with that lately back home. And so I'd say always tell
the truth. And then number three would be,
I would say no matter what you accomplish,
there's more you could have did.
And that's about me.
If I passed away today,
there was more I could have done.
I say did, but could have done.
And like I said,
I could have got off the Xbox and read more.
And then which would have accomplished, number one,
would have got me to love people more, right?
Get off this anger kick when somebody drives in front of you
and you want to honk the horn.
So I just think that you could accomplish more.
I don't feel like you can sit back and go,
I did everything I could possibly do.
I think that there's always more you could have did.
So that would be my third one is like,
whenever you think you've reached your goals,
you hadn't reached them.
You could have did better.
And that's another way of pushing yourself, so.
Yeah, those are powerful truths, man.
I don't know if they're truths,
but that's what's going on in my crazy head.
I like it, man. I like it.
Before I ask the final question,
where can we connect with you the most online?
How else can we support you?
Where do you hang out the most?
Instagram, Twitter, Facebook?
Instagram and Facebook, obviously.
But Instagram is a big one right now, right?
Yeah.
You're on there. You're hanging out.
So people can connect with you there and send a message about the interview that they're listening to.
Yeah, for sure.
It's just Bubba Watson there. Yep. All one word. Cool. Anything else we can do to support you besides
cheering you on when the tournament's coming up? The only way to truly support me was just pray.
Okay. Just be thankful or be thinking of me. It starts with being, the first thing is first,
is being a better husband. The better I can be as a husband, the better she can be as a mom,
is being a better husband.
The better I can be as a husband,
the better she can be as a mom and the better our family can be.
So that's really it.
And like I said, people will never believe me,
but I love the game of golf, but professional golf.
Like I have just as much thrill beating you
at my home course as I do beating Tiger Woods
at the Masters, right?
Like it's just, I just love the game of golf.
I love sports. And so for me, it's the game, right? Like, it's just, I just love the game of golf. I love sports.
And so for me, it's, the game of golf is great,
but I'd rather be known as a Hall of Fame husband
and a Hall of Fame dad than a Hall of Fame golfer.
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Before I ask the final question, I would acknowledge.
I thought the last one was the final question.
No, I said I got one more,
but I wanted to support you
and see what you wanted to share.
Before I ask the final question,
I want to acknowledge you, Bubba,
for all your wisdom, for constantly. Let's don't, let's, you for constantly... Let's keep it at that. Let's keep it at that.
Yeah, wisdom. All your wisdom, because you've gone through a lot of different challenges,
and you've had a lot of successes. And to hear you say you want to be a Hall of Famer
husband and dad over your career or over your sport, the thing you love the most or something you love very
much. For me, that speaks very highly of you. And I acknowledge your constant growth, your constant
commitment to being a better husband and a better father. And yeah, man, I'm just inspired by you as
a person. So thank you for sharing your truth with us and for all that you do for the world.
This is the final question. Okay, here we
go. What's your definition of greatness? Definition of greatness. Definition of greatness. Well,
it's hitting a hook shot out of the trees about 2012. Oh man, definition of greatness.
I would have to say I can think of people that I think are great people in my life, and truly what they are is selfless.
They always ask how you're doing.
They always want to know how you're doing, and they mean it.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'd have to say what popped in my head as soon as you said that was selfless.
Selfless acts over and over from an individual.
That would be greatness, but I don't really think
greatness can be achieved because, like I said, I just think we underachieve as people. We're so
focused on ourselves that we don't really do as well as we can because it's all about us.
The other people in this world, I can't vouch for, but for me personally, my whole life has
been about me. Golf is about you, right? It's about the individual. It's not about anybody else. And so I've been focused on myself for
40 years of my life. So that's what I'm trying to change and be better at. So I think greatness
would be selfless. For me, greatness is selfless and not one care of yourself and
focus on the people around you. That's great. You're the man. Thanks, brother.
Yeah, man. Thanks, man.
Thanks for having me.
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Bubba Watson. People's champion, the man, the myth, the legend. Super exciting. All right, guys,
I've been so pumped. We had an amazing interview. If this is your first time here, we had a big
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Go listen to that episode.
Over the last few weeks, we have some big people on the show.
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We did a one-on-one relationships where I open up about all my relationship past,
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And we've got some big interviews coming up.
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Reflect on that
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And as always,
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