The School of Greatness - 773 Take Your Business to a New Level with the Shark Tank Masters
Episode Date: March 20, 2019PRESSURE ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. What makes one business succeed and another fail? The most important element is the entrepreneur. If you watch the show Shark Tank, you know that people get ...investments from sharks just by being a passionate salesperson. It’s about going all in. So how can we ensure that what we put our time and money into will be unstoppable? We have to learn from the people who are at the top of their game. On today’s episode of The School of Greatness, I’ve combined great advice from past conversations with five Shark Tank masters: Barbara Corcoran, Matt Higgins, Daymond John, Sara Blakely, and Kevin Harrington. Shark Tank is a critically acclaimed and Emmy Award-winning reality show on ABC. Now on its 10th season, Shark Tank continues to inspire a nation to dream bigger and has offered more than $100 million in deals to entrepreneurs. These investors come from some of the top companies in the world. They started from nothing and made their dreams come true. So get ready to learn how to get your business off the ground and make it a force to be reckoned with on Episode 773. In This Episode You Will Learn: The hardest part of getting Spanx off the ground (8:00) How Kevin Harrington's business model has evolved since Shark Tank (15:00) The big things people taught Daymond John about mastering his skills (25:00) What to do when you go all in but fail (29:00) What to do with the profit you make in your business (30:59)
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This is episode number 773 with the Shark Tank Masters.
Welcome to the School of Greatness.
My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message
to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness.
Thanks for spending some time with me today.
Now let the class begin.
Theodore Isaac Rubin said, happiness does not come from doing easy work, but from the afterglow
of satisfaction that comes after the achievement of a difficult task that demanded our best.
Welcome to this special edition with the Shark Tank Masters. Now, if you're an entrepreneur or
you just like the show Shark Tank, we've had a number of the sharks on this podcast, on the
School of Greatness, and they've been some of our biggest interviews. Some of the most inspiring stories come from entrepreneurs who've had nothing or who've been through so
many extreme challenges in their life. And yet they went on to become billionaires,
famous inventors, successful entrepreneurs. And they've gone on Shark Tank to share their
stories and help other young entrepreneurs grow their businesses and brand. And in this interview,
we've got
Sarah Blakely, who is an American billionaire businesswoman, founder of Spanx, super inspiring,
one of Time Magazine's top 100 most influential people in the world list. We've got Kevin
Harrington, who's an entrepreneur and business executive. He's the founder of As Seen on TV.
He's been on Shark Tank and a massive keynote speaker and author.
We've got Damon John, my friend, who is a bestselling author, inventor, investor,
personality, and motivational speaker. We've got him in the house. We've got Matt Higgins,
who is co-founder and CEO of RSE Ventures, a private investment firm that focuses on sports and entertainment,
media and marketing, food and lifestyle, and technology.
And we've got Barbara Corcoran, who is an investor, speaker, consultant,
and massive TV personality.
Began her career in the 70s with real estate
and just blew up in the NYC real estate industry.
And in this episode, we talk about what the hardest part of getting a company off the
ground is for entrepreneurs, how to evolve your business model and reinvent.
This is something that keeps coming up for me is in the industry of social media and
digital marketing and people's attention spans constantly getting smaller and smaller.
How do we reinvent to build businesses?
How to continue to
master your skills in sales and marketing and branding? What to do when you go all in and you
fail? That's a common question. And what to do with profit when you make it in your business?
How do you spend your money so that you grow and protect yourself? Super pumped about this one
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with the one and only shark tank masters masters. Did you wake up every morning and say, this is my dream to sell fax machines door to
door? Or were you thinking, what am I doing with my life? Exactly. So what happened was,
a lot of people think that Spanx started when I cut the feet out of my pantyhose,
but actually it started long before that. It started when I was selling fax machines door
to door and getting my business
card ripped up in my face, being escorted out of buildings all day, every day, that I woke up one
day and just thought, I'm in the wrong movie. How did this happen? This is not my life. Cut,
scene, director, call the producer. And I got out a piece of paper and I wrote down,
what am I good at? And the only thing in the good column was sales. And I thought, okay, what am I going to do with that? And I ended up writing in my journal,
I'm going to invent a product and sell it to millions of people that will make them feel good.
And then I asked the universe for an idea and I was very specific. And it took two years and I
only cut the feet out of my pantyhose one time, and I was not going to squander any idea the universe gave me because I had really asked for it.
And then the minute I cut the feet out, I started trying to make it.
I started looking up manufacturers on the internet.
How did you find a manufacturer at that time?
A website called thomasregistry.com, and it lists all the manufacturers in the country based on category.
And that's when I found out that a lot of hosiery and undergarments were being made in North Carolina.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, so you got a local.
Yeah.
I mean, U.S., yeah.
So I called and called, and no one would take my call.
And they'd either hang up on me or say they weren't interested.
So I took a week off of work and drove around in person.
And just showed up and said, hey, I want to create a sample.
Yeah.
Because if they weren't going to get a big order for something, they're probably like,
what's, I got to do a little sample for you.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I showed up with my lucky red backpack from college.
It's always with me.
You still have it?
Yeah, of course.
So anyway, I went into the manufacturing plants and they asked me the same three questions.
And you are, let's say, Sarah Blakely. And you're with? Myself.
Sarah Blakely. And you're financially backed by? And I was like, Sarah Blakely.
So you can imagine how those went. It was like, well, have a nice day, honey, and good luck.
And about a few weeks after I made all those rounds, I got a call from a guy in North Carolina who took pity on me and said, Sarah, I've decided to make your crazy idea.
I'm going to ask him why he had the change of heart.
He said, I have three daughters.
Yeah.
So he ran the idea by them.
And they're like, Dad, that sounds interesting.
You got to give that girl a chance.
Amazing.
So he called you back.
You didn't follow up with these people.
Oh, yeah.
I was following up, but to no avail.
But he followed up and said, we'll give it a shot. We'll make this. So what was the next
step? Was he just making a sample for you or testing different models or sizes?
Yeah. So it just set up to make the garment while I was making it with his manufacturing plant. I
was also wanting to patent the idea and I was also trying to come up with the name for the
invention. So I was doing those three things simultaneously, driving up on the weekends and
working with Ted in the back of the manufacturing plant that I'd become very close with.
Driving to North Carolina from Florida.
No, from Atlanta. I was living in Atlanta at the time. Ted became my buddy and I went to get it
patented, but all the patent lawyers wanted between
$3,000 and $5,000 and I had $5,000 set aside to do this.
That's it, yeah.
So I wrote my own patent.
I went to Barnes and Noble.
No way.
And I bought a book called Patents and Trademarks and I wrote the patent and then I called one
of the patent lawyers that was the nicest to me and said, please, please, please will
you write the claims over the weekend
for a discounted price?
I've done all the other rest of the patent.
The legwork you'd done.
Yeah.
You just kind of needed to button it up.
Yeah, you needed to do the legal part.
And so he did.
He actually admitted to me
that when I came to visit him,
he thought I'd been sent by Candid Camera,
which let me put it in your words.
I know Candid Camera.
I know.
He thought he was being punked.
Of course.
Of course. Wow. Yeah, he thought he was being punked. Okay. And he thought-
Where's Ashton? Where's Ashton? Yeah, exactly. He thought that his friends
were playing a joke on him. No way. Yeah. He goes-
Who's this girl? He goes, Sarah. I mean, you're not the typical person who walks in the door
saying I've got a product and I want to patent it. So anyway, he did that. Then at the same time, I'm trying to think of the name. I had horrible names written
on scrap pieces of paper all over the place in my apartment, in my car, in rental cars,
on the back of like Avis agreements. And you want to hear how bad the runner up name to Spanx was?
Yeah. Open Toed Delilahs.
No way.
Yes.
I cannot believe that that was even an option.
It was the runner up. Like how bad is that? Open Toed Delilahs. No way. Yes. I cannot believe that that was even an option. It was the runner up.
How bad is that?
Open Toed Delilahs?
I so wouldn't be sitting here with you right now if I named it that.
That is the horrible, yeah, the horrible word.
It's so bad.
Wow.
Yes.
So anyway, okay.
What does spank stand for?
Well, it's all about the butt.
It makes your mind wander a little bit.
Nobody ever forgets it.
I had no money to advertise.
It was risky.
It was fun.
At the time, listen, now it's become a household name. But when I first invented it, I would call
people and say, hi, I'm Sarah from Spanx. And they would hang up. Right. So that was probably
like a porn. Yeah. They thought I was pranking them. I'm called, I'm like, no, really I'm Sarah
and my company really is called Spanx. And I had a department stores across the country that
wouldn't sell it. They thought it was too risque of a name. And my mom sent her whole lunch
into the wrong website when I first started. I was like, mom, it's with an X. It's super important.
It's with an X. So yeah. Anyway, I ended up buying the word Spanx from a man who said he was holding
out from the porn industry. Funny enough that you say that. I bet, yeah. I paid Spanx.
Spanx with an X.
I paid some money for that.
But anyway, yes.
Amazing.
Named it Spanx.
It came to me because I narrowed down my thinking.
I knew that Kodak and Coca-Cola
were the two most recognized names in the world at the time.
And I thought, what do they have in common?
I like to think about words and phrases a lot.
They both had a strong K sound in them.
And the man that created Kodak liked the K sound so much,
he took a K and put it in the beginning and the end of the word
and played with letters in the alphabet.
And I also had a bunch of friends who did stand-up comedy,
and it's this weird trade secret among comedians
that the K sound will make your audience laugh.
So I put all that together, and I'm like,
okay, I want my product name to have the K sound in it for good luck. And literally Spanx came across my dashboard in my car in my
mind and I pulled off the side of the road. I wrote it down. I went home that night. I typed
it in my computer for $150 with my credit card. And at the last second, I backspaced the K and
the S and put in an X and hit send. So it was accident kind of with the X.
No, I thought- You backspaced.
Gotcha.
I backspaced because I stared at it for a while and I had done research that made up words
do better for product than real words and they're easier to trademark.
Yeah.
So then I had the name and I had the patent in the works, got my prototype and my patent
lawyer said, Sarah, I need to know what's in this garment in order to
write the patent. I said, okay, no problem. We'll call Ted. So I get Ted on the phone. I'm like,
Ted, can you talk to- The manufacturer.
Yeah. In the back. I'm like, Ted, can you talk to my patent lawyer? He's like, yeah.
So we're all talking and he goes, I go, can you tell him what's in it? He's like, yeah,
well, it's 70% nylon and 30% lacquer.
And I'm like, all right.
And so I'm taking notes.
My patent lawyer's taking notes.
And that night I could not sleep.
I'm up all night.
And the next morning I wake up, I'm like, how is there lacquer in this product?
What is lacquer?
Just so I'm aware.
I think it's like paint thinner or something.
Okay.
So I called-
30% paint thinner?
So I called Ted.
I go, Ted, can you spell lacquer?
He's like, yeah, L-Y-C-R-A.
I'm like, oh my God, lycra.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I was like-
Got it.
Do an all change on lacquer immediately.
An all change.
My patent lawyer was laughing.
He said, you know how fast you would have gotten a patent if you-
Made paint?
Tried to make this out of paint thinner?
They would have been like, sure.
So was it challenging to get it?
Did you get it the first try?
The patent?
I did.
Wow.
It usually takes a few turns, doesn't it?
I got the patent the first try, and I got the trademark name Spanx.
Amazing.
Yeah.
So it didn't seem like there was that many challenges once you submitted it or whatever.
You kind of got the things you needed in place.
You got the orders in.
Was there a lot of challenges after that once you got the patent, the trademark?
That was a really hard part.
It's just I heard the word no for two years.
Yeah, all the manufacturers.
Nobody thought it was a good idea.
And also when you're just yourself trying to break into an industry like you mentioned,
the manufacturers, it's not really in their best interest to slow down machines or try to give a girl with a couple grand a chance.
Unless you're going to give them a bunch of money for a big order or something.
Yeah.
It's like, what's the point?
Right.
What's the proven model that everyone needs, whether it's going to be a mega hit or maybe
it's not going to work, but it needs it either way, the formula.
My business model coming off Shark Tank is people would see me on Shark Tank and they're
like, I wonder what do people really want when they go on Shark Tank?
They want money.
But then people would come to me off of the show and like email me and say, look, I do want money and I need
money, but if I could just do a deal with you, you open up your Rolodex, maybe we can go raise
money together. So that is sort of my new model over the last about four or five years is what I
do is I take strategic kind of advisory positions, board positions, public companies, as well as startups.
And so that really has been really fun because I've got equity and a little company that started at $0.10 a share.
It's now $3.60.
And what could be so bad to get a lot of shares in those kind of deals, right?
So I have tens of millions of shares in those kind of deals, right?
So I have tens of millions of shares of public companies.
I think Tim Ferriss is kind of doing this kind of stuff.
Get in on the ground floor and take a little equity and open up the Rolodex and all that.
So I really love, and I'll bring some capital to the table if it's needed, but if somebody's like,
hey, I need a million dollars, I can't just fund every deal that needs a million dollars because eventually you run out of money, right? Plus, I'm married now twice and my new wife, and we've been
together 14 years, so that's new because I have a 28-year-old son from my first marriage and 19-year-old boy
also. But she's like, you can't be everything to everybody. So you have to kind of pick and choose
what you want to do and focus on the winners and the winning people with a winning business.
That's it. That's it.
Yeah. So that's really... Because the Ascena TV businesses, they're in the middle of disruption
because it's no secret there's a lot less people
watching TV today than there was five years ago. In fact, it's 50% less than it was 10 years ago.
No way. Yeah. Because everyone's online. Yeah, they're online. I mean, I'll give you a great
example. My 19-year-old started college, went over, got his apartment for him, and the furniture's
being delivered. The cable guy shows up and i
said great what you know what cable package did you get nick and he said oh um sorry to tell you
dad but he's just putting in internet just i'm not yet yeah apple tv or netflix i don't watch tv
i'm like how do you think we're paying for your college education and you know you're getting at
least a basic channel i need to you can see it in a commercial.
I need to be able to watch some shows when I'm over here hanging out at your place.
Wow.
So we got cable.
But I mean, I'm like, I was almost, I mean, he knew he was going to offend me by not getting
something, but he wasn't telling me until I got there.
So kids don't watch TV?
It's crazy.
You know, I mean, I used to, you know, in the very beginning, I had five channels.
Then I had the 30-channel package.
And that's how I created this whole infomercial space is one day I'm watching TV, and the screen went dark.
And then it put bars up, and that was Discovery Channel.
It was dark for six hours.
No.
Yeah, with bars on the screen.
And you're like, I should buy that.
I said, yeah. dark for six hours and yeah with bars on the screen and you're like i should buy that i said
yeah i said discovery for the first five years of its existence was an 18 hour a day network shut up
and i bought the six hours nationwide from discovery yeah back in the back in the mid 80s
wow by the way we paid them a thousand dollars a day for six hours, and that's $365,000 a year.
And that was generating tens of millions of dollars in sales.
That was a great media buy.
So that was an extremely good media buy, and that was the early, early days.
Before everyone got in and it got competitive. And then when that contract expired, that time block went from 365,
it was a multi-year contract, for $28 million.
That's how beautiful.
So you had it for three years for $1,000 a day?
Yes, $1,000 a day.
Yes.
And it went for $28 million because it was generating tens of millions of dollars in sales.
So that's when I said, I got to go to Europe. I got to go to Asia.
I got to go to Latin America and start picking up all this downtime.
Wow.
So that's-
You're talking the 80s.
This was in the 80s.
So we went to Europe and Latin America, et cetera.
Just bought it all up.
Every place we could, we'd sign long-term contracts.
How much is the media right now to buy on TV?
It's outrageous.
I mean, Discovery, what we were buying for $1,000 a day,
they have slots to go for $20,000 for 30 minutes now.
Discovery.
Is it worth it to buy this media? It's becoming so difficult to make money off of,
but our strategy has changed.
It's like a billboard, right?
It's like a billboard.
But what we've had to do is tie it into Amazon and social media.
And so anymore today, if you just go on TV,
you're not going to make money.
Just like call the phone and yeah.
Yeah, you got to go on TV
and then have all the other elements around it ready to go.
And then also pricing protected
because what do most people do now?
They see it on TV.
They actually go online to see if they can find it cheaper
and then there's knockoff guys that actually take out hey you've seen the new wave click here well
they've got something similar for half the price or whatever right so it's a it's a cutthroat
business and and we drive other people's sales with tv, for sure. In fact, like I said,
when there was 20 resellers of that hair-growing helmet
on Amazon, we had to clean them up
because why am I going to go on TV and drive their sales?
No.
No, you can't afford it.
So it's a more sophisticated business today.
But you're still active and aggressively buying media on TV?
Oh, yeah.
Even today, 30 years later.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Even how competitive it is, how much more expensive.
It still works.
Yeah.
But we start on social media, actually.
Wow.
We start on Facebook or Pinterest or Instagram or one of the social media channels, test
it.
So you get a few sales.
Okay.
We call it test before we invest.
That's it.
Yeah.
It's a focus group.
Proof of concept.
Yeah. It's a focus group. Proof of concept. Yeah.
I really kind of mentally said to myself, I'll get to know my daughters when they're 10 or 15 years old because there is no time now.
I have to be in Asia for six months at a time.
I have to be doing this and that.
And I questioned if it was the smartest move to do, but I said to myself,
you know what, if I was a sanitation worker, I would still, or nothing wrong with that,
but if I worked a city job, I would still work every overtime I could because I need to be able
to provide for them. And now, you know, I have my beautiful little two-year-old and it's a different
way of life now. Now, and going back to this as we'll talk about the
book rise and grind now my theory is how much love can i give to this to this little being
yeah because it is changed you know now my life obviously i i am in a better place and i have the
opportunity to be able to give as much love as i can to to her not that i don't give as much love
as i can to my my other daughters they they're they're my driving force as well right so do you feel like you have a little bit more balance now even you're
working just as hard but you feel like you take that time to I do but that's exactly how the theory
for the book came around I was because I don't see you slowing down really right so so what was
happening was I looked at and I said you know I'm going on nine years of Shark Tank.
I have hundreds of companies I work with and or deal with, and I'm investing in a bunch of them.
I have a new two-year-old.
I have work-life balance.
I want to get home to my lady.
You know, I want to do the things I love to do, fish or archery or whatever, snowboard.
I'm really good on the board, baby.
But I want to do all those things.
How do I do it?
And I went and I would go in to speak to other people that I respect
and I would say, what's the tricks or the techniques you do
to have work-life balance?
They all told me the same exact thing but in different forms.
And I started to notice that I can improve in
certain areas. Again, like you and I were talking, I don't know if it was on camera or off camera,
but there is no one area of success or mastery you get to and you go, I'm done, right? You know,
you can be somebody who's a master at juditsu or karate or something like that. And, you know,
at 40 years old or 25 years old, you're a certain master, but at 80 years old,
you don't have the same muscle retention or the same speed,
so you have to learn to master it a different way,
kind of like when Ali came out of jail
and they had stripped him of his prime,
he had to learn the rope-a-dope to beat George Foreman,
and he had to fight a different way.
You can't just sit in the pocket and just grind it all day.
Yeah, you can't do that, right?
So I had to start figuring out how to master my grind today because the Daymond John at 48 years old is not the grind that the Daymond John at 28 years old had.
And I learned all these techniques from the book from asking these people.
Right, right.
So what were the big things that people taught you then about this, how to navigate?
So the theory in the book is I studied these 15 subjects in there and they have success from all various ways of life, whether it's Santana or Tyler, the creator, the Grammy award winning kid, or our buddy Kyle Maynard, who army crawled on Mount Kilimanjaro with no arms and no legs.
Right.
One of the most inspiring guys ever.
He is.
I mean, he made me feel like an absolute loser.
And they all told me the same thing, but they told me in different ways and different formulas.
And what I found, the takeaway is that everybody is extremely selfish.
All successful people are extremely selfish in a very good way.
Like Chris Sacco always says, you know, and a lot of these people here will not answer any emails
for the first hour of the day because they believe that you give up all your power if you're answering everybody else's problems when you wake up.
They'll send out emails, and like Chris Sack always says,
his inbox is his defense, his outbox is his offense.
They won't look at Instagram when they first wake up or anything else
because they don't want to hear about how everybody else on the gram
is looking beautiful, they're starved, skinny, or whatever.
They all got problems, right?
What would you say to anyone who's been playing small?
When they maybe think they're playing big, they're listening or they're watching right now,
but you know that we're all capable for more,
what advice would you have for people playing small?
I would say take that boulder that you're chained to instead of behind you and throw it in front of you.
Let it pull you forward.
Wow.
Like do not.
Playing small is the best way to ensure that you won't ever achieve big dreams, right?
That you have to don't get comfortable where you're staying right now.
Get uncomfortable right away and press ahead.
Because you probably know that inside yourself that you have more to give this world.
And it's going to haunt you one day when you look back.
So I do think there's something to be said for spending a little time, right?
Look around, assess yourself,
but quickly move off the dime and press ahead.
Wow.
In fact, my biggest regrets in business so far
have been the times I've played small.
Really?
Yeah, it's true.
Like, I don't regret the misses because I understand why I did them.
I don't understand why I played small.
Right?
There's no great excuse for playing small in retrospect.
When you mean playing small, is it like I made a small investment in this where I could have gone bigger?
Exactly.
I think mostly playing small for me looks like I know I'm right.
I'm nervous about optics.
I'm nervous about being judged for being wrong just in case
or I'm insecure, whatever it is.
So we only put $100K in as opposed to a million.
Exactly.
Or something's teetering and I know I'm right
and I don't double down.
Wow.
Now, I haven't made a lot of those,
but those are the ones that I regret.
And this is Steve's, my partner's point.
When you have a winner and you know it,
those are hard to come by, go all in, right?
And the spray and pray is nonsense.
Spray and pray to me is the playground
of people who want to hedge all day long
and are afraid to be wrong, right?
I'd rather-
I'm sure there's invest in index funds.
Well, as I'm saying, right, right.
You'll do better anyway.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, exactly.
Get your annualized yield and you'll be fine.
So I think when you have a winner and your hands doesn't matter if anybody else knows,
you've got to press it.
And that's my biggest regrets.
Now what happens when you press it and you go all in big and then you lose?
Yeah, those.
You lose all your money and all your time and energy.
How do you look at those deals?
Those are tough.
And you felt like, well, I thought I was right and I knew it, but the market or this or the person, whatever.
Those are painful.
But what I say is when you dissect it and you put the patient on the table
and you sort of do your postmortem,
you will quickly find out the thing you missed.
And the thing you missed is usually related to some misalignment
in your character or your personality, right?
Like there was some, you were worried about the downside.
You were worried about acknowledging that they needed to pivot.
You didn't confront the CEO because you didn't want to offend them.
Like there's, you, I have not had a situation like that where I was not able to dissect what I could have.
Or you missed it.
Or I missed it.
It's never, that's what's great about life.
We're all playing the same, you know, patterns.
Maybe there are like seven, you know, allegorical patterns playing out.
There aren't new ones being created.
So if you spend enough time paying attention, you can dissect it.
So I'd much rather have gone all in and be wrong than have never gone all in at all on the winners.
Because you don't get many winners.
Don't.
Right?
Big winners.
You might get small winners.
Like, yeah, we made some money there.
That did well.
And we exited.
But the big ones.
How many of those every few years are the big winners?
Well, for one, you have to see so many deals
to spot a winner.
I'm curious.
You talked about the first year you made a profit,
$40,000, I think you said.
$47,000.
$47,000, $562,000.
Well, I don't know about that.
Yeah, exactly.
If someone is an entrepreneur right now, let's just say they had their biggest year ever
and they had a bunch of extra cash laying around.
They're just like, wow, we finally made some money, an extra 100 grand, an extra 300 grand,
whatever it is, a million bucks.
What should they do with that extra money?
How should they reinvest it to continue to grow?
Two things I thought of right away.
Number one, they shouldn't have that money.
Okay?
If you're really serious about building a business, you're putting the pedal to the metal,
you're spending the money and putting the bets down long before it comes in.
So the idea, like I made a mistake that one year I had a profit.
Shame on me.
I mean, I made someone good of it, of course.
But you should really have any money coming in over aggressively,
targeted towards something that you do well.
And I think the best place to put the money, and I work with my entrepreneurs all the time on this, and they're not so inclined.
Most people want to put the money in on a new idea, a new version, or a new this.
No, the best place to put the money is what has worked.
Where have you gotten your sales? Give me the sources, what has worked.
That's where you put your money, all in.
Put a pile it up until it stops working,
then you move to something else.
But people don't do that.
People always like the new stuff,
like, oh, but if we hire a PR company,
you know, we'll really get, no, no, no,
the trade show has reduced 80% of your money.
Yeah.
Showing up and building those relationships yourself, yeah.
Whatever has worked for you before, keep repeating, repeating, repeating.
And I just think the money shouldn't be there in the first place.
Do you know, my whole life, I opened offices much bigger than I had any business doing.
The minute I had sales in a company and started seeing that we were doing well
and I started smelling a profit, like we might get a profit,
this thing might really start kicking in, I was out looking for office space.
And if I needed, if I thought I needed 18 desks, I'd go out looking for 36. And I plunked the money down. Because I found that when you threw the money onto your bet in advance, you find a way
to make it work. If you wait till the time is right, wait till you have the profit, guess what?
There's a smarter guy out there
that's already put the money in your competitor
and he's already ahead of you.
And it's such a quick market when you're competing.
You've got to like,
like there's a timer on you,
get it going.
You have to have it done early, I think.
So invest it back in a thing that's worked before for you
until it doesn't work anymore.
And more than you think you could handle.
Because human beings who are talented, especially entrepreneurs, are remarkable on making things
work when the gun's against their head and they're under fire.
But gives them a lot of leeway and have them plot out, they start to go to sleep.
It's really not healthy for a business.
It's that pressure that allows you to really kind of have more urgency and make it happen.
Well, you're a football player.
Did you play better in a game or in practice?
Game.
Yeah, same difference, same old thing.
Yeah.
Okay, so you said that was the first thing.
You said there was two things potentially.
Two things that I wanted to say was you shouldn't have the money.
It should be spent way in advance.
And the second thing is spend it on stuff that's worked before.
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