The School of Greatness - 916 Build Your Health to Build Your Wealth with Dr. Mark Hyman

Episode Date: February 17, 2020

Wealth without health isn't wealth at all. Let's say you're the richest person in the world. You have anything and everything you could ever want. You've started companies, written books, gone on tours—you name it. But your body isn't in the best shape. You've put it second to your career goals. And now, it's starting to show.Your health is a different kind of wealth. Taking care of your finances is important, but so is taking care of your body. If you neglect your body, your body will neglect you. As you age, this only gets harder. You won't be able to enjoy life because you'll feel tired, sick, or miserable.Of course, exercise is vital to maintaining good health, but so are the foods that you eat. The food we eat has an impact on our brain chemistry, our physical health, our community, and even climate change!It's easy to eat the processed food that's offered to us daily, but if we want to start investing in our health, it's time for a change.If there's one person who knows how to help, it's Dr. Mark Hyman.Dr. Mark Hyman is leading a health revolution—one revolved around using food as medicine to support longevity, energy, mental clarity, happiness, and so much more.Dr. Hyman is a practicing family physician and an internationally recognized leader, speaker, educator, and advocate in the field of Functional Medicine. He's the founder and director of The UltraWellness Center, is the Head of Strategy and Innovation of the Cleveland Clinic Center for Functional Medicine, AND is the Board President for Clinical Affairs for The Institute for Functional Medicine. And somehow, in the midst of all this, he's a twelve-time New York Times bestselling author and hosts one of the leading health podcasts, The Doctor's Farmacy. He's also a regular medical contributor on several television shows and networks, including CBS This Morning, the Today Show, Good Morning America, The View, The Dr. Oz Show, and CNN. Needless to say, he's an expert. Dr. Hyman is one of my favorite people to learn from about health because he is so honest about what’s going on. Instead of trying to push his own agenda, he’s got humanity’s best interest at heart.If you're wanting to invest in your health, look no further! Join me on Episode 916 with Dr. Mark Hyman to learn how eating the right foods can make you healthier and happier.What are the first steps someone can take to fix the food crisis? (31:50)Has dairy consumption been declining? (43:00)How many people in the U.S. are actually sick (1:01)The truth about what diabetes is and what causes it (7:03)The history of processed food and what it does to the environment (11:15)How much food we waste annually (16:45)Why the FDA doesn’t regulate food the way other countries do (18:40)How the food industry convinces people bad food is safe (23:45)Why nut milks can be problematic (45:02)Plus much more...If you enjoyed this episode, show notes and more at http://www.lewishowes.com/916 and follow at instagram.com/lewishowes

This is episode number 916 with number one New York Times best-selling author, Dr. Mark Hyman. Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro-athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin. Napoleon Hill said, no person may enjoy outstanding success without good health.

And Buddha said, to keep the body in good health is a duty. Otherwise, we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear. Welcome to this episode with Dr. Mark Hyman, who is leading a health revolution. One revolved around using food as medicine to support longevity, energy, mental clarity, happiness, and so much more. Dr. Mark Hyman is a practicing family physician and an internationally recognized leader, speaker, educator, and advocate much more. Dr. Mark Hyman is a practicing family physician and an internationally recognized leader, speaker, educator, and advocate in the field of functional medicine. And he's the founder and director of the Ultra Wellness Center, the head of strategy and innovation of the Cleveland Clinic Center for Functional Medicine, and a 12-time New York Times bestselling author,

and so many other things that he's done. He's the host of one of the leading health podcasts, The Doctor's Pharmacy, and he's a regular medical contributor on several TV news networks, including CBS This Morning, Today Show, Good Morning America, Dr. Oz Show, and so on. In this episode, we talk about the kinds of food related to chronic illness. There's so many people who have chronic illness and how you can prevent it just based on the foods you're eating. We compare chemicals and additives allowed in food in America

compared to countries around the world and how it's so much different here in America. Misconceptions people have about dairy alternatives. This was a huge one for me as I love almond milk and it might be killing me. The power our food choice has on climate change, how you can make a difference in your own local community and so much more. This is a powerful one that could transform the way you think about

food and our economy. So make sure to share this with your friends, lewishouse.com slash 916. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple and Spotify. And as always, leave us a review and let us know what you think at the end of this episode. Again, I'm so excited you're here. And without further ado, let's dive into this episode with the one and only Dr. Mark Hyman. Welcome back to one of the School of Greatness podcast.

We've got the man, Dr. Mark Hyman in the house. Good to see you, man. Good to see you too. Super pumped you're here. I think you've been on twice before. Yes, I have. This is the third time. Yes, trifecta.

And you are arguably the leading expert on all things health, nutrition, and an amazing doctor as well at the Cleveland Clinic. So thanks for being here. I'm super excited about this. You've got a mission that you're on, which is to change the food system. Yep. Not just teaching people how to eat better, but actually changing a whole system of what's actually legal and not legal on what we can eat, I guess, or what we as Americans can

have at stores and what we buy. What we grow, what we produce, what we process, what we market, what we eat, what we waste. The whole food chain is messed up. It's really messed up. It's messed up. Well, there's a lot of sick people, especially in the US. How many people are sick? Oh, it's terrible.

What do we categorize as sick? That's a great question. What's obese? What's sick? as sick? That's a great question. What's obese? What's sick? So at the top level, we have to understand that over the last 40 years, a tsunami has come that we weren't aware was coming, that we weren't prepared for, and still haven't grappled with. And that tsunami is chronic disease and food related illness. In 40 years? In 40 years. Did we have chronic disease prior to this? We did, of course we did, but not to the magnitude.

We used to have like 5% obesity rates in this country in the early 60s. It's 40% now in most states. I thought it was like 30 a few years ago. Nope. Nope. 40%. Many states are 40% and many are just pushing 40. It's 35 to 40

depending on where you're looking. California's probably less. Colorado's less, but Mississippi and Alabama are 40 plus. So we have six out of every 10 Americans who's got a chronic illness, four out of 10 who have more than one. By 10 years from now, we're going to have 83 million with three or more chronic diseases, heart disease, diabetes, obesity, cancer, dementia, you name it. We are having 11 million people, and this is I think a conservative estimate, 11 million people around the world die every year from

bad food, from ultra processed food and not enough good food. Now I think it's more like 50 million when you look at all the related conditions and so forth. It's a staggering number that beats out smoking, war, violence, accidents, you name it, nothing else comes close. Not malaria, TB, AIDS, all that is a fraction, a third of the deaths that are caused by chronic illness. And they're mostly preventable, and they're mostly caused by food, and they're mostly

caused by the ultra-processed food that our food system produces en masse. It's the biggest industry on the planet. It's $15 trillion, about 17% of the world's global product. And it is controlled by a few dozen CEOs that are in monopolies around seed production, agrochemicals, fertilizer, processed food companies. It's staggering how the system has sort of just, over the last 40 years, completely transformed. And, you know, I remember, like, I was in some store or cafe, and I saw this picture of Woodstock.

And I'm looking at all the sea of people. In the 60s, right? 69. There wasn't one overweight person. I watched this movie, I think it was called Amazing Grace, about Aretha Franklin, an African-American church. Now, African-Americans, 80% of African-American women are overweight. 80% today? 80%.

Why is that? Well, because they're targeted by the food industry. Because they're in a vicious cycle of economic stress, of social stress, of unfair targeting and manipulation by the food industry. This is well documented by, for example, studies from Yale where they look at the amount of advertising and targeting to poor and African-American, Hispanic communities. It's staggering. And there was not one overweight person in this sea of African-Americans in 1970. And so it's literally just happened. And I was 11 years old in 1970. And in my lifetime, you see this change. So we have this staggering

problem of chronic illness, which people suffer from this bankrupting people, this bankrupting our country. I mean, think about the amount of economic stress we talked about. Well, insurance too. I mean, so much insurance money that's involved in this too. People are having to go to the doctor so much more probably now because of these issues, right? Absolutely. And then many people are not adequately covered. So there's a lot of co-pays. I mean, people can have $10,000, $20,000 in co-pays.

I had a patient the other day who had diabetes and I fixed his diabetes through food. And he says, I saved $10,000 a year on co-pays for my insulin. Just the drugs. Yeah. And when you look at the amount on diabetes spent in this country, which is basically one out of every two Americans has prediabetes or type 2 diabetes, one third of Medicare spending is on diabetes.

One third of Medicare is on diabetes. Medicare, if it was a company, would be the biggest company in the world, a trillion-dollar budget a year. Shut up. Yes, one-third of our total federal tax revenue expected to grow to 100% of our mandatory spending by 2048. And in six years, Louis, six years, the Medicare trust fund,

which is sort of the bank account that we use to make sure we cover Medicare, it's a little complicated how it works, but the Medicare trust fund is going to be out of money. So that means that we're going to have to get a trillion dollars a year out of our tax revenue. We're not covering it. So this is a threat to our economy. It's a threat to our political stability. It's a threat even to national security, Lewis, because seven out of 10 kids who apply for the military get rejected. Can't get in?

Because they're too fat or unfit to fight. No way. Yes. There's 700 admirals and generals that published a report called Unhealthy and Unprepared about the threat in our military and national security. And not only that, soldiers are overweight. So we're feeding them crap. They go in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Soldiers are overweight. So we're feeding them crap. They go in Iraq and Afghanistan, the number one reason for medical evacuations was not war injury, was obesity related problems. No, come on. Yes, 100%. Obesity related problems? What does that mean?

Like they're like a heart problem? Injuries from being overweight. Wow. And you can read about this. I didn't make this shit up. I mean, this is in that report, Unhealthy and Unprepared. Just Google it, you can read it yourself. Wow. It you can read about this. I didn't make this shit up. I mean, this is in that report, Unhealthy and Unprepared. Just Google it.

You can read it yourself. Wow. It's staggering. So we have a $22 trillion debt. We have this threat of chronic disease exploding. It's getting worse and worse. Medicare for all is kind of a silly idea, and so is repealing Obamacare. Now they're going to help the problem unless we figure out how to stop people from going

into the system in the first place. Into the system of getting unhealthy. Yeah. If they don't need medical care, it's cheap. So let's go back to diabetes for a second. Tell me again the stat on diabetes, how many people have it or are pre-diabetic and what, I'm uneducated on this. So how many different types of diabetes are there and how is it caused?

Okay. Okay. So type one diabetes is an diabetes are there? And how is it caused? Okay, okay. So type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease. Pancreas fails. We used to be called juvenile diabetes. And you need insulin. You need it. You need insulin.

If you have type 1 diabetes, you need insulin. You need insulin, yeah. Because your pancreas dies. Because your pancreas makes insulin and helps your blood sugar get balanced. It's sort of the gatekeeper that lets the the glucose into your cells okay so it's really important um so how does that die what how what people die from that i mean how does the pancreas die oh well it doesn't get to that point it's an auto like you know like you get multiple sclerosis or arthritis it's it's basically your body attacks your pancreas is that from eating a lot of bad food well there's been

links to dairy and actually as a driver of type 1 diabetes. Gluten, 29% of people who have type 1 diabetes have celiac that are undiagnosed. Wow. Celiac is a big cause of autoimmune diseases, including type 1 diabetes. That's a very small number of people, very few. One out of two Americans have what we call type 2 diabetes. We used to call it adult onset, except now kids as young as 3 are getting type 2 diabetes when you're drinking soda from the

crib. Oh my gosh. I was working when I was a resident at an urgent care center, and this woman comes in for back pain. She's got her baby in a carriage, and I see her feeding this baby this brown liquid in a bottle who's 7 months old. And I'm like, what is that? Soda? I'm like, what is that?

She's like, that's Coca-Cola. No. I said why are you feeding your baby Coke? She's like well he likes it. Oh my gosh. Oh my god. Listen my wife

showed me this video on social media the other day. It was of a baby looked like it was maybe eight or nine months old baby having ice cream

for the first time. Oh. Having sugar for the first time and you watch the baby eat the ice cream. I lied out the first time. And you watch the baby eat the ice cream. I'll light out. And then the baby like

grabs the thing and like stumps in his face. I was like, oh my God. It was just so crazy. And it's highly addictive. So now we're seeing one in two Americans

suffer from either pre-diabetes or type 2 diabetes. And that is when you eat too much sugar and starch, and every time you do that, it raises your insulin, your body becomes resistant to the insulin, and so it doesn't work as well, so you need more insulin. And insulin does what? Insulin makes you hungry, it makes you store belly fat,

it locks the fat in the fat cells, and it slows your metabolism. It's like a quadruple threat for your body to gain weight. So it's why we're seeing, you know, and that goes back to what we're growing, right? So why are we eating all this food? It's because that's the food we produce, right? And so that's the other part of the problem. So we have the chronic disease, we have the economic impact.

And then we're like, well, why do we have this food? So as a functional medicine doctor, I'm always asking why. Well, why are my patients sick? Because it makes money, right? Yeah, but I'm going even further. Why would a doctor care about agriculture and soil and all this crap? Because as I was thinking about my patients' diseases, most of them were caused by food and can be cured by food.

How many are most of them were caused by food and can be cured by food. Something will, well, if it's caused by food. How many are most of them? Is this like 50%, 70%? 80%. 80% of anyone that comes in to the hospital, or your patients, who has some type of disease or some type of sickness. I mean, unless it's like in an environmental thing like mercury or lime or mold, you know, most of the things. Or cancer.

Cancer is caused by food. Really? 70%. 70%. Cancer is caused by food. Really? 70%. 70% of cancer is caused by food. And sugar is the number one culprit. Heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, heart disease, the big killers. Are by sugar and food. Yes.

Yes. So if you change your diet, you should be able to cure. Prevent those. Prevent. Or cure sometimes. Sometimes cure. Depends how long things are, I guess. Yeah. But you can prevent heart disease,zheimer's yes 100 i mean the studies are there it's crazy even people

already have alzheimer's when they improve their diet they can they got more functionality back so so you've got me thinking okay well if the patient's disease are caused by food what's causing the food it's the food system and like what's causing the food system it's our food policies like what's causing our food policies it's the food industry that's lobbying congress got money it's the biggest lobby group in congress is agriculture and food by far like by twice as much as the next lobby group by like gas and oil or whatever yeah exactly right and it's like what so then i began thinking well if i'm going to help my patients i can't do it in my twice as much as the next lobby group. By gas and oil or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Right. And it's like, what? So then I began thinking, well, if I'm going to help my patients, I can't do it in my office.

It's like I'm in the boat, bailing the boat with a hole instead of plugging the hole. Right. You're not going to the source. Right. So then I'm thinking, okay, well, what do I need to do as a functional medicine doctor? I need to go to the root cause, right? The root cause and why. And then it became clear to me that it's our agricultural system that's driving so much of the problem.

And what we grow has been based on good intentions that we're in the 50s and people were hungry. There wasn't enough food. There was a lot of poverty. And so we figured out a system to produce an abundance of starchy calories. So we can have food. So we can have food. And we were great at it. And we have cheap, abundant corn and wheat and soy,

which are the commodity crops that are turned into industrial processed food, which is now 60% of our diet. And for every 10% of that you eat, your risk of death goes up by 14%. Shut up. Yeah. Crazy.

So you're basically feeding Americans a diet diet we know is going to kill them. The research is so clear on this. There's no scientific debate. And yet, we don't do anything about it because of these dysfunctional food policies. And then the way we grow the food causes climate change. And we'll get into that. But the number one cause of climate change is our food system. Really?

People don't realize that. I didn't know it. I'm like, oh, it's oil and gas and all this stuff. But what is it? Is it the trucking? Is it the animal feces? Okay, so first of all, deforestation is devastating. Not only do we destroy the soil on which we cut down the trees, but the trees are carbon

sinks, so we lose that. So they're not sucking in the bad air and putting out good air. They're sucking in the carbon dioxide. Right. I mean, basically, plants suck out carbon dioxide. That's what they breathe. We breathe oxygen. They breathe carbon dioxide. So they're a perfect antid the bad air and putting out good air. They're sucking in the carbon dioxide. Right. I mean, basically, plants suck out carbon dioxide. That's what they breathe. We breathe oxygen. They breathe carbon dioxide.

So they're a perfect antidote, right? Yeah. And then the soil also, we're damaging by the way we're farming. We've lost a third of our topsoil. It's responsible, and people don't know this, but of all the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the loss of soil, organic matter, like healthy rich soil, is responsible for 30 to 40% of all greenhouse gases currently in the atmosphere since the industrial revolution.

Why is that? Does it suck up? Okay, why? Does it suck? Because soil can hold more carbon than is in the atmosphere right now. There's a trillion tons of carbon in the atmosphere, which is a lot I don't know if filling in tons. I don't even know how to measure that And the soil can hold three trillion tons of carbon and how does it do that?

It's an ancient carbon capture technology that is available all over the world. That's free that's Can be more effective than all the rainforests on the planet, than all the forests and trees on the planet. It's called photosynthesis. And if you have like grasslands, for example, like we had big prairies in the United States, they suck down carbon, they breathe it, and they put it through the plants, into the roots, feeds the mycorrhizal fungi, which then make healthy soil, feeds the bacteria, and you

get this incredibly rich, live soil that holds tremendous amounts of organic matter that is carbon. Right? I mean, carbohydrates comes from the word carbon, which comes from carbon dioxide. Wow. Right? Ding, ding, ding. It all connects.

Interesting. And so we've lost... So we don't have the soil for it to consume, then it just bounces off back into the air, I guess, and we're consuming it in other ways. Yeah. And the soil can hold so much carbon. The UN estimated that if we took of the five million hectares of degraded farmland around the world, if we took just two million of that and spent 300 billion, which is the total military spend for 60 days around the

world, which is not much, 60 days, two months of everybody's military spending, we literally could stall climate change by 20 years because of putting back the carbon in the soil. And not only that, it holds water. You see in Iowa and the Midwest, there was floods that just destroyed a million acres of cropland that otherwise could have been fine if the soil could hold the water. But it just sits on the top where it runs through, and we lose all this water. So that when you have organic matter in the soil, it holds 27,000 gallons for every 1% organic matter in the soil per acre. So it000 gallons for every 1% organic matter in the soil per acre. So it's an incredible water sink. It's a carbon sink. And we've lost all these soils. And

it's because we're growing these commodity crops in ways that destroy soil. We're tilling the soil. We're turning over soil erosion. It runs off into the rivers. We kill all the life in the organic matter by poisoning it with fertilizer, with pesticides, with glyphosate, herbicides, and it's staggering. And then we have all these unintended consequences. We started growing all this food and we thought this agricultural revolution was great, all these chemicals are great, fertilizer's great, we can do all this good stuff, tractors, big farms, more food, feed the world. it's backfired on us and it's producing the worst food on the planet that's causing devastating environmental damage staggering climate

change so it's it's the soil loss it's you said add to deforestation it's the factory farming the animals which is should be. It's the transportation, storage, refrigeration, and the food waste. I mean, food waste in... A lot of waste. Yeah, well, we waste 40% of our food. That's not a play. We don't eat it.

Imagine going to the grocery store, buying a bunch of groceries, and getting home and throwing 40% of the garbage. The average American wastes $1,800 of food a year and is about a pound a day, and that goes to landfills. The landfills, then it rots and creates methane. So you could be a vegan throwing out your food waste and scraps, and you could be contributing

to climate change. If food was for a country, it would be the third largest emitter of greenhouse gases after the US and China. Wow. Yeah. It's methane to produce. And we need to compost. We need to have community garden. It's always to produce. And we need to compost.

We need to have community garden. It's always a fix it. But it's like when you look at the whole end to end food system, it is the number one source of climate change. About 50% of greenhouse gases. And people just don't appreciate that. So why, I mean, if this information is public and it's out there and policy makers are aware of it.

They're not. They're not aware. No. I spent two hours on a sailboat this summer with a senator, a smart senator. He wasn't aware of it. They're not. They're not aware of it. No. I spent two hours on a sailboat this summer with a senator, a smart senator. He wasn't aware of it. And I, literally his jaw

was hanging open the entire time. Are they not presented with this research and information? No. Because they got so much money sent

to them, it's obvious probably. Right. I mean, listen, if all the people who are walking to their office

are Monsanto and Cargill and McDonald's and Pepsi and they're all donating millions of dollars, I would say billions of dollars, they're not hearing the other side of the science. How do you fight that? I always said to write a lobbyist, but I plan on creating a food fix campaign, which is a nonprofit, along with an advocacy organization, to start to literally lobby senators, congressmen, key people in the administration around these

issues and start to drive policy change. Because in the UK, and you were talking about, I think, in Australia, New Zealand, or I think in Asia, you were saying that you can't do certain things with the food. Otherwise, you'll go to prison. You'll get killed. Well, yeah. Like in the UK, they don't have a lot of these dyes. Right.

Right? Yeah. So it's so funny. The FDA is so influenced by the food industry. And I was once with the former head of the Federal Food and Drug Administration, Peggy Hamer. A former. Former. But then she was the FDA commissioner. Yeah, yeah. Peggy Hamer. A former. Former.

She was, but then she was the FDA commissioner. But now she's a former. And I was at the World Economic Forum. I said, Peggy, how come we have so much trouble with getting advances in food labeling or dealing with toxic chemicals in our food or antibiotics in animal feed? She's like, well, when we try to make too aggressive change, Congress threatens to shut down our funding because of the food lobby. They threaten to shut it down? Yeah.

And then what? If they shut it down, what would happen? Well, they're limited in their ability to do their job. And so the FTC, there was a movement by the Federal Trade Commission to have negative, I mean, positive education campaigns around sugar and how bad it was. But the Congress says, we're going to pull all your funding and shut you down if you do this. And so they pull back.

So, you know, for example, you asked a question about Asia. We have this thing called GRAS, which is generally recognized as safe. So the food additives. We have, you know, we have this thing called GRAS, which is generally recognized as safe. So the food additives. We have thousands of food additives. Only about 5% have actually been tested for safety. In the US, talk about it. Some of them are grandfathered in. So Crisco, for example, trans fat, was grandfathered in as a safe food to eat.

But it took 50 years for researchers to finally prove to the FDA that it wasn't safe, because it was the basis of all processed food. Crisco shortening, you know, it shortens your life. Oh, my gosh. And so they literally had to be sued by a scientist in order to actually turn it into a non-safe substance. And then, of course, they gave their food industry years and years to get it out of the food. But in this country, there's so many things that are used in our food supply that are banned in Europe, like BHT, butylene hydroxy toluene, food additives, various dyes, and something called azodicarbonamide,

which is a softener that makes bread more fluffy and soft. And it was used in Subway Sandwich. Our friend Vani Hari outed them and said, this is your yoga mat material in your Subway sandwich. And they got to take them out, right? And pretended to eat her. Yeah, and she got it out.

But the FDA still says it's fine to eat. Right. And in Singapore, if you use it and you're a food producer, you get a $450,000 fine and 15 years in jail

for putting it in the food. That same ingredient. The same ingredient. That anyone can use in the US right now. In the US, yes. And most of the things that are safe, quote, safe here are banned in Europe. So it's like, yeah, they're not doing their job. And then antibiotics, you know, we have 30 million pounds of antibiotics that are used

in animal feed, about 37 million total. So about 7 million for humans to treat disease and 30 million for animals. Why? For growth. It's a growth factor. Right. Makes them fat and it makes humans fat too. And it is used for prevention from overcrowding. The FDA says, well, this isn't a good idea. I mean, nobody thinks it's a good idea. But they go, would you please, pretty please not do it? It was a voluntary guideline that the FDA produced. Not mandatory.

Please don't do it, yeah. You have to have a vet certify that the animal's sick before you give them antibiotics. Oh, man. And now they continue to do it and just laugh. You know, they had voluntary, the FDA, FTC put in voluntary guidelines around junk food market. The FDA, FTC put in voluntary guidelines around junk food market. Would you pretty please not advertise the bad stuff and advertise more good stuff? It was just voluntary and the food industry went ballistic and had it overturned. So even the voluntary guidelines are nullified.

Like no, wow. And it just, it's- I mean sugar, I mean it's like, I'm the first one to raise my hand when I say like I love sugar and it's my everybody does vice Right, I love cookies and candies and cakes and brownies and anything you can think of I love it, right? Diabetes so much sugar I've had my whole life But I can't be having that much because you look pretty good my train hard to you're right. I go through waves And but as a kid, I would drink like nine ten dr. Pepper's a day I remember what like some days in Dr. Peppers a day, I remember.

What? Like some days in the summer, you just sip around. You could have been president. Isn't that what a president is? I would just, I mean, I would run around and work out and play sports, but then I would just drink because I thought that's what was on TV. You were 16, 18. No, I was like 9, 10, right? So I was like, but it was, you'd see it on commercials like your nba superstar drinking

dr pepper or sprite or whatever after on the basketball court and i don't know if it was just like subconscious or just it tasted good and you didn't think about it well it's all i mean this is where the food industry is so i mean i talk about in my book food facts but the food industry is so strategic about how it advances its mission and goals. And it does it through multiple channels. And I'm just going to go through them because people just don't know. Celebrity endorsements, right? Yeah. First, obviously, celebrity endorsements, which is the obvious one.

They co-op social groups. So they fund groups like the NAACP and Hispanic Federation. The African-American and Latino communities are the most affected by diabetes and obesity. And they co-opt them by funding them. I want to show the movie Fed Up at the King Center in Atlanta. And Bernie's King, Martin Luther King's daughter, was all about it and she was excited.

But once we got it scheduled a few days later, I got a call that we couldn't show it. I'm like, why? She's like, because Coca-Cola funds the King Center. No. Yeah. I went to Spelman College, which is African American Women's College in Atlanta. And the dean said to me, half of the 18-year-olds coming into college have a chronic illness, obesity, hypertension, diabetes. 18-year-old women. And I'm like, why is there soda machines all over the campus? She? Just because Coke funds.

No. And one of the people on the board of trustees is one of the highest executives at Coca-Cola. Oh, man. An African-American woman. So they co-op social groups. And that's why they, for example, oppose soda taxes, because they're in the funding of these big soda companies. And then, of course, they fund research.

So they fund 12 times as much research, $12 billion worth of research a year to study nutrition. So Gatorade gets studied by Pepsi. Really? Gatorade's the best thing in the world. It's not. It's just sugar, right? Right, right, right.

So it corrupts and pollutes science. So people are confused. Why is there so much confusion about nutrition science? Third, they create front groups. They call nutrition science? Third, they create front groups. They call them spin doctors. So they create front groups. They seem like they're independent groups, like Crop Life. Yeah.

Or, you know, like the Center for Consumer Freedom. Right. Or the American Council on Science and Health, which, by the way, is run by a bunch of doctors who suggest that pesticides are safe, that type fructose corn is great for you that smoking isn't cause disease and you know why do they do why would they do that because they get paid a lot they're funded by monsanto and big food and pepsi just look at their funders and their business i mean they spent 30 million dollars fighting gmo labeling in california this front group it was all funded by monsanto right and? And then you, so we got these front groups.

And then you have them co-opting scientists and academies. So the Nutrition Academies, the American Heart Association, American Diabetes Association, their funding in large part comes from industry. And so the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, which is our main nutrition association, 40% of their funding comes from the food industry. They have sponsored lectures at their meetings that are when people say, well, high fructose corn syrup is good and diet drinks are good and like... It's just completely corrupted. And so these professional societies give guidelines and they're corrupt.

Dr. Ioannidis from Stanford, who's a scientist who looks carefully at the research and conflicts of interest, says, these professional societies like the American Heart Association and Diabetes Association should not be making guidelines. You've got all these ways in which they screw things up. Then, of course, they are aggressive in advertising and marketing, which is illegal in most countries. And then they have lobbyists running around Washington driving policy that supports all of what they do.

So you've got this massive effort. And it's often subversive and illegal. And it's kind of shady. I mean, here's an example. Like in California, there was a group that wanted to promote GMO labeling. And they put in a ballot. What does that mean, promote GMO labeling? So that you have to label.

If you have a food, it has GMO in it, you have to label it. So on a can of Coca-Cola, it would say GMO. Right. Corn. Kind of like in a cigarette box where it says, like, this will kill you. Right. And your plant-based burger would have to say GMO burger, right? Right.

So the food industry didn't like that. So the Grocery and Manufacturer of America got together. Because it would really cost them huge amounts of money. People were aware of this stuff. They didn't want to. They stopped buying it. Yeah. And by the way.

Why don't they label it, though? That seems like the smart thing to do. By the way, most countries do have it. Really? Like, I think 30 or 50 countries have it, including China and Russia, which are not known for transparency or democracy. It's terrible. They basically tried to put this thing. Now, the food industry got together with the Grocery Manufacturing America, which is their trade group. They're like, we can't have this. They spent millions and millions of dollars fighting this ballot.

And the way they did it was illegal. Wow. Because they got the food companies to donate in a way where it should be transparent for campaign finance. You have to be all transparent. It was all secret. They got caught. The grocery manufacturers of America got fined $18 million, which is the largest fine ever for a fraction for campaign finance violations. But they appealed it, and it was down to $6 million.

But it's like, and of course, the ballot, because they did all that work, it didn't pass. So they were successful. So what's a few million dollars when they have billions at stake? So they're so corrupt. And then in California, it was even worse. There were four soda taxes passed here in the 2016 election in many states. Soda taxes passed? It's soda tax.

So, you pay an extra penny, an ounce, whatever, for sugars to eat and drink. Which, by the way, it's been proven to reduce consumption dramatically. It works. That's why people do it. It works, and that's why the food industries are against it. So what the American Beverage Association, which used to be called the American Soda Pop Association, did was they took, and this is crazy, they created a ballot measure to prohibit any local taxes from being passed unless there was a two-thirds majority, which

would mean that you couldn't fund schools, police stations, fire stations, local stuff, and it would have crippled local governments all across the state. It had nothing to do with food. But then they went at the last minute before it was about to pass, and they spent millions pushing this. They went to Governor Jerry Brown, the most liberal governor we've probably ever had in America, Governor Moonbeam, they used to call him.

we've probably ever had in America, Governor Moonbeam, they used to call him. And they're like, look, you passed this preemptive law, which means you can never pass another soda tax in California, and we'll pull this ballot measure. So basically, they got Governor Brown to pass this preemptive law, which means that you're not allowed to go and pass another soda tax in California. Why? Why? Why?

Because they don't want soda taxes. Crazy. It's crazy. Why did Governor Brown do it? Because he didn't want his entire state local governments to be crippled by this new ballot measure that was about to pass. So it was all done behind closed doors. You can never tax again?

You can't now in California. You can't? No. And they're doing this in states all- Can you change the law back? You could. You could. Just take more effort in energy. You could. You're going to have to- But they're doing this in states all You can't. No, and they're doing these states all... Can you change the law back? You could. Just take more effort and energy. They're going to have to... But they're doing this

in states all across the country. Oh, my gosh. And it's a playbook that the tobacco industry used. Wasn't tobacco... I mean, doesn't cigarettes have a tax on them now

or in some states? They do. There was a huge lawsuit that sort of changed everything. There was huge litigation and multi-billion dollar settlements and all kinds of restrictions that did happen. But food is more complicated because it's not cigarette is one thing. It's like soda, it's processed food, it's everything. So this is all

the bad news. The good news is that we can fix these problems. We can reverse climate change. We can reverse chronic disease. We can fix these dysfunctional food policies. We can, and some of the social injustice issues, which we didn't talk about is related to food. We can fix these dysfunctional food policies. We can, and some of the social injustice issues which we didn't talk about is related to food. We can actually help save our economy if we change the way we grow food, the way we process food, the way we distribute, market, eat it, and waste it. And we can do that. It's not like we need to invent some new technology. We have the ability to do it. We know what to do. The science is there. It just is going to take a grassroots movement and some political pressure to do it. What would be the first steps that someone could take to help?

Well, I think, you know, it seems like such a big, it is a little bit. So let's talk about some of the solutions. So we know, you know, food is causing chronic disease. It's destroying our economy. It's crippling our climate. It's destroying our environment and killing all crippling our climate. It's destroying our environment and killing all the pollinators and all biodiversity.

And it's causing social injustice because it targets poor minorities who suffer from problems. It prevents kids from learning in school because they're dealing with crap. It threatens our national security. It creates political instability. So we know all these things.

But the good news is that by fixing the food system, we can solve these. And how do we do it? Well, it's going to need citizen action. It's going to need business innovation. And it's going to need policy change. And, of course, other philanthropists and governments to help get on board.

And I think that's what's really exciting to me because there's so much hope. So, for example, on a personal level, you can shift what you eat and what you do to drive change in the marketplace. you eat and what you do to drive change in the marketplace. Why are companies like Nestle and Unilever and Danone creating regenerative ag programs within their supply chain? Why are they trying to up the quality of their food and take out chemicals? Because consumers are demanding it. Well, they're buying companies like Primal Kitchen that have like- Like Kraft, right, bought Primal Kitchen, which is basically a whole foods,

really high quality, nutritious product with no junk in it. Exactly. So there's, and yes, that's part of the problem. They're buying up these companies. But I think they're seeing the change and there's a positive change. I mean, General Mills just committed a million acres

to regenerative agriculture. That's incredible. That happened because people are demanding different things by voting with their fork, voting with their wallet. And I think we can also do things like join community support agriculture associations, which gets food delivered to your house from a local farm. You can shop in farmers markets. You can use companies like Thrive Market that sources regeneratively raised products or Mariposa Ranch where you can buy directly from the ranch regeneratively raised meats you can you can actually start a compost pile which will help end food waste because we don't throw out our scraps we can if you live in an

apartment like this you can still have an in apartment little composting bucket but then you can take to you know local compost place interesting in some some states like in California and San Francisco, Mayor Newsom, who's now governor, mandated composting. So you go to the airport in San Francisco, there's a compost bucket there. Wow, that's cool. There's mandatory composting. You can't throw your garbage.

In countries like France, you get a fine and you can go to jail if you throw out your garbage. In Massachusetts, they passed a law that if you produce more than a ton of food waste every week, then you can't throw it out. So it's now created side businesses where Whole Foods and other grocery chains are giving their waste to farmers. And these dairy farmers who are struggling to make money because dairy consumption is going down I mean it's nut milk right right right they're they partnered with this sort of venture firm I think Vanguard and they created this model of anaerobic incinerators which essentially is a as a digester an anaerobic digester where they throw in the food waste they throw

in some cow manure from the farm, and it produces energy that creates electricity for 1,500 homes from this one farm. In Europe, there are 17,000 of these anaerobic digesters. We should mandate that now so you can actually do something good with your waste. So there's a lot of things we can do. You can actually be an activist in your schools. I know so many people around the country who've been activists in their schools and get their school food changed and it can be

done in school nutrition guidelines it can be done within budget uh there's a group called conscious kitchens which it creates a template for schools to do this there's something called my way cafe in boston where they've done this at scale so there's so many opportunities we're really about in your workplace you can be an activist and say let's get the soda out of here i mean uh universities cleveland Clinic was one of the first to get all sugar-sweetened beverages out. And there's University of California, San Francisco. Isn't that crazy?

The hospitals used to have, I mean, still do, have like all the vending machines with sugar and candy. Yeah. With sick patients there. Oh, my God, yeah. When I went to, when I was working in the inner city hospital in Springfield, Massachusetts as an ER doc, I literally like, you know, working hard, you don't always have time to go because the

cafeteria is over from 8 to 9 and 12 to 1 and 6 to 7. So, like, the only thing that was open from 6 a.m. to 2 a.m. was McDonald's. Yeah. And I would go get the burrito thing because I thought it was a little healthier. But it was like, it was terrible. And, you know, so there's a lot of things that institutions can do. There's something called the Good Food Purchasing Program where institutions can buy food in ways that are good for their employees, that are good for the animals, that are raised

in humane sustainable ways, that are good for the climate and so forth, good for the farm workers. There's a lot of things that people can do. I have a whole action guide. If you go to foodfixbook.com, which is where you can find out about the book, you can pre-order it, you also get an entire action guide that guides you through all the things that you can do in your own life. And then, of course, you can vote with your vote.

People are so apathetic when it comes to politics. And we live in a democracy, we take it for granted. You can change it by voting. You can, because it matters you know and i think 50 of people don't vote and often people vote who might have different values than you and you think it doesn't matter and it does matter i mean you know i had it worked for me at cleveland clinic this young african-american woman you know who grew up you know very poor and i said why are you voting she goes no i'm not gonna vote i'm like why aren't you gonna vote she says it doesn't matter it's like irrelevant but you know we look at look at what

happened in Alabama the African-American women in Alabama went out to vote and they voted for a Democrat and that was like I don't know when the last time they had a Democrat in Alabama was yeah because they stood up and asked for you know something changed wow so there's a there's a great website called foodpolicyaction.org where you can look at your congressman and senator, what their voting record is on food and ag policy. Wow. And then you can write to them. There's all mechanisms for being activists to communicate.

And they even ousted two congressmen who were in the pocket of big food by a big social media campaign based on using citizen activism. That's how things happen, right? We think our voice doesn't matter, but look at what happened. Look at abolition, right? Our entire economy, our entire agricultural system

was based on slavery. It ended. Women's vote. You know, women got the vote because they stood up and said, hey, it took another 50 years to get civil rights. I mean, women's rights,

but civil rights, same thing. Gay rights, same thing. It didn't start in Congress. It ended in Congress. So we need to actually create a grassroots effort, and everybody needs to be empowered to do this. And that's really what the book is about. And then, of course, we need business innovation,

like these anaerobic incinerators. It solves food waste. It solves the methane from the cow poop. It solves the economic issues of farmers because they from the cow poop, it solves the economic issues of farmers because they make 100 grand a year, and it produces renewable energy and electricity out of poop and garbage. It's pretty amazing. It's pretty cool.

So it's like, what? So there's all kinds of great business things that are happening. There's a company called, I think it's a private equity group called Farmland LP. And basically they buy up conventional farms. They convert them to regenerative farms, which basically restores the soil, like we talked about. And they turn the profits from single digits to more than double digits. So their first fund had a 67% profit. And then there's this thing they call ecosystem services.

So every year, we use up natural capital. We take out resources from the earth, plants, biodiversity, mineral, everything, right? Soil, water. And we use up about $125 trillion a year of natural capital, which is about $40 trillion more than the global economy, right? Wow. And most of the way we farm now depletes our natural capital, right?

With conventional farming, destroys the soil, water, pesticides, chemicals, pollinators, species, blah, blah, blah. Chronic disease. They create regenerative farms, which actually put in $21 million of benefit to the environment, whereas the conventional farms

will, in the same amount of farming, will take out $8 million worth of benefit. Wow. So it's a win-win-win. And there's this farmer in North Dakota, Gabe Brown, who had his farm decimated by hail and bad weather and was about to go bankrupt. And he started researching and found about regenerative ag. And he started to convert his 5,000-acre farm in North Dakota to regenerative ag.

And now he's built 20 inches of soil he doesn't need water. He doesn't use pesticides fertilizers chemicals. He produces more food on the same land, it's a very diverse set of crops that Restores ecosystems restores pollinators restores the soil organic matter and and he makes 20 times the amount of money than his neighbor, and produces more food, better food, with less inputs in ways that restore the environment. So this is the scalable thing. It's innovating, yeah.

Yeah, it's innovating. And I think this is a model that needs to be grown. And yes, we need incentives from the government. We need business investments like these guys from Farmland LP. So whatever way we need to do it. And then of course we need government policy change. And that's the hardest part, right? Because people go, Washington, it's a shit show and nothing's going to change.

I give up. But there are things getting done and there is a way to change things. And the people you elect do care about getting reelected and they want your vote and if they know that you care about stuff, they will change things. They'll change it. They will change things.

They want to be in power. Yes, they want to be in power. They want to stay there. So we can actually be active and I'm working with a group that is an incredible strategy group that launched Bono's One campaign which raised about $100 billion

through congressional appropriations for AIDS and poverty relief Democrat Republican bipartisan effort and they know how to make sausage in Washington and I'm working with this crew And we're raising money to actually change the policies that matter, you know We need to start supporting regenerative act we need to implement policies that create food as medicine to treat chronic disease We need to get rid of the dysfunctional food policies like food stamps, which pays for $7 billion in soda. It's horrible.

It's like we need to get school lunches better. We need to end all the food marketing to kids. These things are not going to be easy. We need better food labels so people know what the heck they're eating instead of like it says 40 grams of sugar. Nobody knows that's 10 teaspoons. There's so many things we can do, and we're working on a very focused strategy. I'm super excited because, one, unless you identify the problem, you can't fix it.

Two, once you do, you can mobilize grassroots, you can pressure congressmen and senators, you can do all sorts of things to change policy. I think it's got to happen here, it's got to happen globally. This is a global problem. It's huge. Sorry, I got carried away. No, it's great, man. I's got to happen globally it's a global problem yeah it's huge so they can get the book sorry I get carried away no it's great man

keep going here on my monologue you got all your the resources and the information on this at foodfixbook.com yes

so they can go there they can get free downloads they can buy the book there I'm curious you said something about nut milk and about dairy

yeah dairy has dairy been declining yeah dairy in the last five years dairy consumption has been declining dramatically. Do you know the percentages or the... Yeah, I think, you know, over the last few years, like, it's gone down about 25%. Borden, which is a big milk producer, has been around since 18, I think 87, has gone bankrupt.

What? Yeah. A lot of these milk producers... Now, people are still eating cheese, they're eating yogurt, they're eating these things, but actual milk consumption has gone down and the nut milks have gone up. Why is that? Is that because of education? Is that because of disease? I think probably a lot of reasons. I mean, 75% of the population is lactose intolerant. Yeah. So they don't feel good.

I used to drink so much milk every day. And how did you feel? Fine? I always had like a stuffy nose. Right, right. I was always tired in workouts and practices. Like I was always blowing my nose. Actually, milk is nature's perfect food, but only if you're a cat. I mean, we're the only species that consumes milk after weaning.

There are very few populations that seem to thrive on milk, the Maasai and some of the Northern Europeans. The other problem, the dairy we're eating today is not the dairy we ate. So there are heirloom cows. I mean, you travel around the world, you travel, I've traveled, and you go see these really weird looking cows in other countries. I'm like, what is that? And it's a cow. But these are complex breeds that have different types of protein in the milk, different types of casein. And the Holstein, the homogenized cow, I don't mean homogenized milk, but they're all the same.

Not the steroid. And they're fertilized by like this three bulls, I think. They get the sperm from the bull. And it's like they're all the same. And they have bred out the beneficial or the safe casing which is a2 casein and then a1 casein which causes more inflammation more congestion more irritable bowel more autoimmunity more skin issues so uh people are getting that milk isn't always the best and and i think then you know people are eating nut nose now they're not are those good for you though

because a lot of people have still like skin problems yeah well nut milks are problematic so one almond milk is great but you know almonds are

but you can't have too much of it I started to get like a rash after I switched from milk years ago and I started to get

like eczema like a little eczema here and there and then when I stopped drinking it it would go away and I was like huh maybe I'm drinking

so much almond butter almond milk, everything. Well, a lot of them had carrageenan in it, which causes leaky gut. You get leaky gut, you get eczema. So it's a thickener they put into these milks. They put a lot of sugar in these milks. They put a lot of gums in these milks. So you have to be very careful about which one you're having.

Just because it's healthier doesn't mean it's healthier. Yeah, and I don't and drinking tons of soy milk. It could be GMO soy. It could be folic glyphosate. If not, it could be, you know, getting huge amounts of these phytoestrogens, which our bodies

aren't really meant to get. Eating traditional foods and traditional amounts are fine. Tofu, miso, tempeh, those are fine. Really? Those are how people

have consumed soy over millennia. But not 10 pounds a day and not three glasses. Not gallons of... No, I stepped on her once. She loves soy milk, just drinking it all day. And she started like nine years old getting little breasts and I'm like, well, that's

not good. And so yeah, we have to be smart about it. And I think if you're using a little here and there, but I don't recommend people drink it as a drink. Really? If you want to put it on coffee. Almond milk or soy milk or nut milks. There's macadamia milk, coconut milk, oat milk.

Don't drink it. No. I think have it sometimes. You have a glass once a week maybe it's okay but not like drinking glasses every day. Yeah, probably not. But you can add it to things. Sure. I put it in a smoothie.

You got to mix them up. Macadamia milk, cashew milk, there's hazelnut know, there's macadamia milk. Uh-huh. You know, cashew milk. There's, you know, hazelnut milk. There's all kinds of milks now. So I like, you know, I like macadamia milk. Macadamia milk is so good. It's like sweet tasting. Yeah, you can make your own nut milks. I have cookbooks.

My food, what should I cook? And others. Teach you how to make your own nut milks at home. You soak the nuts. You put them in a blender with some water. There's no additives, ingredients, sugar. It's great. But not too much of it is what you're saying.

Yeah. That's the challenge. It's like anything. Like anything. Except for water. Drink a lot of water. It's great. But not too much of it is what you're saying. Yeah. That's the challenge. It's like anything. Except for water. Drink a lot of water. That's better. Yeah. I mean, listen.

Anything can kill you, right? Water can kill you. You know, marathon runners who overhydrate, their body is diluted. Their blood is diluted with too much water. And they get what we call low sodium or hyponatremia. And that causes seizures and death. So, yeah, you can die from with too much water and they get what we call low sodium or hyponatremia and that causes seizures and death. So yeah, you can die from drinking too much water. So it's all about eating stuff in complex amounts and in a complex variety of foods.

So a variety of food is good. Yeah. Huge. We used to eat 800 species of plants. That's good. Not having the same three things every day. No. Well, listen, most of our diet is corn, soy, and wheat. most of our diet is is corn soy and corn soy and wheat most of our diet

you know and and in other countries rice in there and and those are you know all mostly turned into processed food uh i think we used to have you know like i said 800 species of plants we ate now there's 12 we've lost 90 of all our edible plant species, half of all our livestock species. You've lost them? Gone. Stinked. What do you mean? Those plants are gone?

Gone. I mean, there are... We can't make, we can't create, there's no seeds anymore? There are seed banks that are there. There's seed vaults.

Oh, those are probably valuable. Yeah, the USDA has a lot of seeds. Actually, a friend of mine was trying to develop different varieties of plants and was trying to get some old seeds and got to the USDA has a lot of seeds. Actually, a friend of mine was trying to develop different varieties of plants. He was trying to get some old seeds and got to the USDA.

And by accident, he got a packet, which was numbered like 4-3-2-1-6, whatever. And he was like, call them. What is this? Because he was working with an agricultural guy to grow healthy food. And he goes, these are these Himalayan buckwheat. Himalayan buckwheat, Himalayan buckwheat, which is kind of a rare buckwheat from the Himalayas. It grows in really rough conditions. And it's one of the most nutrient, phytochemically rich, dense foods, high protein, low starch,

full of phytochemicals, vitamins and minerals on the planet. And it's almost extinct. Pretty much. Maybe there's a few villages in himalayas so you know how we bring that back and how do we start to create different sort of more you know beneficial grains there's there's um uh kernza wheat which has been developed by uh russ jackson out in uh west jackson out in the midwest which is a perennial wheat that grows roots that go you know you know tens of feet into the ground, breaks up the soil, creates organic matter, and creates incredibly delicious wheat that's

heirloom wheat. It's actually a new form, but it doesn't have all the gluten in it. It's less inflammatory, less sugar. Oh, man. So we need to kind of bring back some of these different kinds of foods in these complex farms that actually restore soil, restore human health. Oh, man. So we need to kind of bring back some of these different kinds of foods in these complex farms that actually restore soil, restore human health. I'm in. Yeah.

I love this. Foodfixbook.com. You can get all the information there. They can get the book. Yeah. Your podcast has a lot of amazing information as well. People want to learn more. The Doctor's Pharmacy.

The Doctor's Pharmacy is the podcast. Yes. Doctors Hardly Have. And then when is the podcast. Yes. And then when's the new, are you talking about the new products

as well? No, we mentioned it. So I spent 30 years doing functional medicine and just seeing

the power of food to actually heal people. And people often don't understand how close they are

to feeling good or how bad they feel. It can be like one or two days switch. Yeah, I

didn't know how bad I was feeling until I started feeling good. And I was joking. I have FLC syndrome, which is when you feel like crap. Right. It's just like the inflammation, the pain, the achiness, the tiredness. Like you said, you had congestion nose. Your digestion's not right. You have a little headache.

You're sluggish. You have brain fog. You're tired. You're achy. You don't sleep well. You have skin problems. Blurry eyes. Yeah, all that stuff. And people are like, you don't sleep well, you have skin problems. Blurry eyes. Yeah, all that stuff.

And people are like, oh, this is normal. This is just normal. I have an irritable bowel. I have sinus issues. I'm like, my joints are a little sore. No, it's your food. It's what you're eating. And so for 10 days, you do a 10-day reset.

And literally, it's like when your computer's not working, you hit the reset and it reboots everything. It's like a reboot. And then you get to see within 10 days how powerfully food and yes and then you go well now i can choose now i can feel like crap or i can feel great but now i know yeah and there's a more serious form of what we call feel like crap which is flc syndrome called fls right exactly and then that's where you go to the doctor yeah and the first time i've ever created anything, because I really want people to have the experience, is called, it's a company called Pharmacy. And you go to getpharmacy.com with an F, F-A-R-M-A-C-Y, and you get the 10-Day Reset.

It's a whole program that's really integrated and it's powerful and it involves lifestyle change, and diet change, and the right nutrients and supplements and shakes, and it's just awesome. Wow. 10 days. 10 days. Reset it i mean i i didn't do it you know like i you know i i came back from the holidays you know and i i try to do well i cook christmas dinner i'm jewish yeah my wife's family and i made it all healthy but you know when there was our mom's house we're here it's like a little ice cream or this and i didn't go too far but you know i didn't feel great and i came back and i just did the whole 10 day reset and it's's like, I feel amazing. I mean, you don't crave bad stuff. Your energy's up, your

sleep's better. Your joints don't hurt. Your digestion's good. I got to get it. Yeah. I got to get it for me and the team. Make sure we reset it. Amazing. So getpharmacy.com. Yes. Food Fix Book. Foodfixbook.com and your podcast. Doctors Pharmacy.

Doctors Pharmacy. Yeah. We need everybody on the team here to fix this food system because it's an existential threat and we don't do it. We're screwed. I mean We need everybody on the team here to fix this food system because it's an existential threat. And we don't do it. We're screwed. I mean, we know the decline of the Roman Empire was because of some bad stuff that was going on there. Well, our food is the decline of our empire. Really?

Yeah. Absolutely. Well, if we're all sick and dead, we can't do anything. I mean, yeah. I mean, the amount of disability and suffering. A lot of pain. Mental illness. Mental illness connected to food. A lot of pain. Mental illness. Mental illness connected to food.

Depression. Depression. Obesity. Chronic disease. It limits our productivity, our ability to engage in life. We all want to feel good. We want to have energy. We want to be able to love the people we love in our life, to do the work we want,

have the mission we want, to be energetic and engaged. I just want to sit around all day and binge on Netflix, right? Yeah. I mean, watching Netflix is fine, but not in a way that avoids life because you feel so bad. And I think what's frustrating for me is, Lewis, is that I see so much needless suffering. Some things we can't change. We can't change natural disasters. I can't end war.

But this is a solvable problem. Yeah, solvable. Yeah, totally fixable. Love it. Check it out. We'll link up everything below on the resource page as well. And Dr. Mark Hyman, appreciate you, man. You're the best.

All right. Appreciate it. Sure. There you have it, my friend. Thank you so much for taking the time to learn about your health to learn about the economy and to learn about our planet there's so much going on with our food system and you have the power to make a change by making different decisions with what you eat and researching the things that you're eating again every decision we make has a bigger ripple effect on the planet and our

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