The School of Greatness - Boxing Legend Canelo Álvarez: How Meditation CHANGED My Life & Helps Me WIN!

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

Welcome to The School of Greatness! Today, we’re stepping into the ring with none other than Canelo Álvarez, a true titan of the boxing world. Canelo joins us to share the wisdom gained from nearly two decades in the ring, discussing everything from the evolution of his training routines to the deep personal growth spurred by life’s challenges. Whether you're a boxing aficionado or seeking to learn about perseverance and resilience, this conversation promises powerful insights into what it means to truly pursue greatness. Stay tuned as Canelo Álvarez reveals the lessons of his illustrious career, his ongoing journey of personal development, and his vision for life beyond the ropes.In this episode you will learnExplore the evolution of Canelo Álvarez's training methods from his early days to his current status as a boxing champion.Learn about the significant life lessons Canelo has acquired from his extensive career in professional boxing.Understand Canelo’s strategies for managing stress and maintaining focus during high-stakes competitions.Examine the role of family in shaping Canelo's personal and professional life, highlighting the influence of his upbringing and his experiences as a father.Delve into Canelo’s plans for the future, including his interests in business and his thoughts on legacy building post-boxing.For more information go to www.lewishowes.com/1609For more Greatness text PODCAST to [phone]More SOG episodes we think you’ll love:Javier “Chicharito” Hernández – https://link.chtbl.com/1435-podAllyson Felix – https://link.chtbl.com/1456-podChris Bumstead – https://link.chtbl.com/1602-pod

Nobody, nobody believes in me before. And I show them what a person can accomplish with determination, with that belief in yourself and everything. And I'm just starting. And now, entering the arena, here is the pound for pound king, Saul Panelo! Armourman!

Vegetation changed my mind. I'm feeling my best. I feel not just in boxing, in life. Do you have any fear when you fight today? I never feel fear. Really? What is it you want your legacy to be after that last match? One of the best in the history of boxing.

And I'm gonna cry that day when you walk into the ring and hear all the people screaming and singing the song you put and everything. I'm gonna miss that moment. Hey guys, we're here in a remote location and we just interviewed Canelo, the greatest boxer arguably of all time. And it's been amazing to see behind the scenes.

We're here, he actually trains, some of his shoes, some of his gloves, you know, you've got the bag, you've got the Canelo right here, the logo. We've got his shoes and gloves over here that are actually drying, getting ready for a session, sparring session later. And we got the ring behind, so I'll show you really quick. All right, it's pretty cool. And one of the things that I was really impressed and inspired about him was his commitment and his passion for his sport, for his family, for a team that he's been with for a long time, and for just the process of being a champion. And he really talks about not having the fear of pursuing your dreams and pursuing your passions, but loving the process. Again, we're in this remote location.

He's got his whole setup. He's got a detailed regimen every single day. Train, rest, run, rest, you know, think about and visualize. He's just getting into meditation. So it's so cool to see after nearly 20 years, almost two decades of mastering his craft and being at the top of his game he's learning meditation this year and he's talking about how it's changing his mind it's changing his life it's changing his ability to bring the power to his fights by adding more

skills so he's not slowing down he's only better. He's only improving himself even more. And I think it's really cool to see someone after this many years who has made so much money, hundreds of millions of dollars in his career, all the businesses, all the success, all the fame. He's a king in his country. People of Mexico love this man. It's so cool to see that he's humble, to see that he's humble to see that he talks about love that he talks about his passion and i just think that's really cool so we're here um in this location it

was an amazing experience to watch him behind the scenes to connect with him and i hope you enjoy this interview the first thing i want to ask you you've almost been boxing for 20 years, almost two decades. Yeah. Is there a difference between how you trained early on when you were a nobody the first few years in your teens versus how you train now? Mentally, physically, is there a difference? If so, what is that difference? Mentally, I think it's the same mentality, the same hungry, you know? For me, I train my mind is always try to get more, try to get more history to my career, and it's never enough for me.

Really? It's never enough for me. Really? It's never enough for me. I always train so hard because, you know, I started like that, training so hard because in my mind always when I was a kid, I say, I want to be a champion. And then I accomplished that champion and I say, it's something else more. It's something else there. So I always, my mind is always, it's never enough for my mind. Right.

I always train so hard and I love boxing so much. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I still enjoy it. You still enjoy it. But it's almost been 20 years, right? 20 years. 19 professional.

19 professional. What is the three greatest lessons that boxing has taught you in almost 20 years of boxing? It's going to be very difficult to pick three lessons. I think the man I am right now, I learned from boxing because my whole life, I give my whole life to boxing. I think boxing teach me everything, everything, bad and good and everything. I think boxing made me. It made you, yeah. I think boxing made me. It made you, yeah.

What is the lesson that you would say to your younger self with all the wisdom and experience you have now? It's the only thing I can say to them. You're 15 in front of you. I have my son and say, you can do whatever you want. You just need to be able to have able to sacrifices, discipline, and hard work. Yes. And have a good mentality because if you have that three things, discipline, sacrifices, and hard work, but if you don't have that mentality, it's going to be very difficult. How do you keep the hunger alive inside of you

for so long, though? Because you were starting out as a young man wanting to be a champion. You became a champion. But how do you continue year after year to stay hungry and love it so much? I don't know. I don't know.

I always say because I love what I do. And I have that passion on me say because I love what I do. And I have that passion on me. And I love what I do and I enjoy it. And I'm that kind of man. I'm that kind of person say, if I'm going to do something, I'm going to do 100%. No in the middle, no 90%, no. I'm 100%. I always try to do my best and try to do my everything and and i i think because

i love what i do how do you manage fear did you have a lot of fear growing up as you started fighting and do you have any fear when you fight today i never feel fear really boxing. I never feel how it's like to feel that fear. I always enjoy it. I just enjoy a lot. My favorite day, my favorite thing is sparring days and a fight day. I just enjoy it a lot. Yeah. I enjoy it, and I never have that experience to feel the fear or something. When you became a champion, world champion,

did you feel fear to lose that ever? No. Really? No, never. Never feel that fear. Why not? Did someone teach you how to overcome fear? I don't know.

I just always say because I really enjoy boxing. I really love boxing. I really love being in the ring fighting. I never thinking about, oh, if this happen or... I always go with the mentality to win and enjoy. Do you ever, when you're preparing for a fight, do you ever think about well what happens if i get knocked down or if i lose will i feel bad or and i never think about lose i never

think about lose i always think and train for the win yes and yes i do i i i think about if i get knocked out how i'm gonna reaction and react. And we train about everything. You train it. You'll fall down. If I feel dizzy, what I'm going to do. Really? We always train about that. We prepare ourselves for everything, of course. But I never think about losing.

Wow. What is the process like, the day of a fight for you, mentally and emotionally? How do you prepare for that fight? For me, it's a normal day. Just like, grab a cup of coffee, relax, hang out? Yeah, relax. Obviously, very relaxed. But for me, in my mind, it's a normal day.

Really? But the world is going to watch you on these fights. Yeah, I know. There's so much money on the line that, you know- I don't think about that. For me, it's normal. I'm going to do my thing, and that's it. Obviously, I think I put everything together

that we put in the whole training camp. I put, okay, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. We train for this. But for me, it's a normal day. It's like if you see me in the locker room 20 minutes before the fight, I listen to music, chilling with my team. So for me, it's a normal day. Are you not visualizing the fight, I'm listening to music, chilling with my team. So for me, it's a normal day.

Are you not visualizing the fight? Yeah, always. You are? I always visualize my fight in the night. I know, okay, this happened, I'm going to do this, everything. How much energy does it take from you to visualize? There's a lot of energy to train, to run every day, to spar, to lift, but how much energy to actually think

at night about what you're going to do in the ring? I just think. I don't put so much energy to think because I just, okay, I'm going to do this and this, I train for this and that's it. For me, like, my life routine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like I want to do this or to stress myself, no.

It's relaxing. It's relaxing. Wow, that's beautiful. And what do you think about after you win a fight? When you've prepared for months and you win a big fight and the whole world is watching, how does it make you feel? It's the best feeling. Yeah.

It's the best feeling because you put your life there. You put everything in the training camp. You left your family. You left everything for that moment. Yes. For that moment, for that win. You prepare yourself for that the win and it's the best feeling yes then is when you realize everything everything you do everything the

sacrifices the the discipline you put in the gym there is the results. It's worth it. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever doubt yourself growing up? Like self-doubt? Never. Insecurities? Never in my life. How did you learn that, though? I don't know. So many people in the world are insecure about who they are, right?

They doubt. I never doubt about myself. Was that your parents or your grandmother? No, I don't know. Did they teach you how to believe in yourself? I don't know. My mentality is always like I don't care who is there. I'm going to achieve my goals no matter what so and i just started professional boxing when i was 15

years old so sometimes my trainer my trainers saw the opponent and say hey he's too strong and he's opponent and say he's too strong and he's he's 30 years old and i don't care i don't i don't i i i don't really care and then two rounds in that and you knock them out yeah do you have i mean do you ever have any insecurities outside of boxing like starting business or in some other ventures? Are you- No. No insecurities? I think the first time I jump in the bus and try to sell ice creams in the bus, I feel a little, I don't know, insecure, or I feel a little- Nervous. Chained because, you know, I'm red hair, freckles and everything.

And I feel like a little ashamed, maybe insecure. But you're like five, six, seven years old? Yeah, five, six years old. And then I say, nothing happened. And then I started feeling good. But I think that moment I feel like a little insecure because the people saw me and say something about me. I don't know. But then I don't give a fuck.

So 25 years ago was the last time you were insecure. Yeah. years ago was the last time you were insecure. Yeah. But when you're starting business, because you've got all these businesses you've been building in Mexico, and USA as well, are you, you know, do you feel like, oh, maybe I don't understand business fully like everyone else yet, because I'm mostly a boxer? Do you ever get worried about that?

Worry? Yes, but I'm not insecure. Okay, is different worry about, okay, I'm going to do with the correct persons, find the correct persons and partners and everything, you know, but never insecure because there are a lot of people bringing with business and this and this, but at the end of the day, I'm going to do whatever I want. And I say, okay, I want to i wanna do this i'm gonna find the correct person to do it so maybe worry about to find the correct partner people yeah to make sure

it's good do you ever feel i mean you're a legend and an icon all around the world but specifically in mexico right mexicans love you uh i love visiting visiting Mexico obviously my fiance's from Mexico and people love you there do you ever feel a pressure to make them proud or to do the right things or in some in some point yes really in some point yes because you know we have a huge history in boxing yes Mexico in some point yes but um is some their time I say you know I always do my best yeah I put my best in there so yeah I know they my fans my really my true fans they probably yeah because I they know I I put everything or everything there is is is there people who don't like but uh

well I know that they I can do anything with people. But in some moment, yes, I feel like, oh, I need to do this to make my fans happy. But then you realize I put everything I can in there, so they will be happy. Yeah. What is it you love about Mexico and Mexican people the most? Everything. Everything. Mexico is very unique.

It's very unique. You know, the one or the person, the service they give you and the love. We have a lot of places, beautiful places in Mexico. I think we have a lot of good things in Mexico. The culture, the people, the love is something that I appreciate and really enjoy. You've got a family, you've got kids. What changed for you in boxing when you started to have kids?

Did something shift inside of you? you in boxing when you started to have kids? Did something shift inside of you? I started having kids since I was 17 years old. 17. So yeah, it changed my mind a lot because then I have responsibility of a big man. So very hard at the beginning, but at the end of the day, I had three jobs and then went to train. Then went three jobs and then went to train because, you know, I have the best for my daughter that moment when I was 17 years old.

What were those jobs? What were those three jobs? Sell ice creams. When you were 17? Yeah. I had my dad, my bro, and two of my brothers. Wow. So then go to train and- Sell ice cream.

Yeah. Because you dropped out of school, high school, correct? Yeah, when I was 15 years old. Right. You didn't like school? I didn't. I didn't either. I didn't like school? I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I don't know.

But maybe if I have a different life and different positions, maybe I do like the school. But for me, it was different. Speaking of the warmth, I heard you talk about your grandmother really loving you in a big way, growing up, your father, your mother. I'm curious, could you share the biggest thing you've learned from your grandmother, your father, and your mother? One lesson from each that they taught you. I think they never surrendered and everything. They never surrendered and everything.

They never surrender? Never. They always hardworking. They always with love. I think if you walking in life with love, you gonna be good everywhere. Everywhere, no matter what. If you walking with love, you gonna be good everywhere. Everywhere. No matter what.

If you're walking with love, you're going to be good in life. Have you always had love in your heart, or have you ever had anger or resentment? I think at some point, yes, but I always have love in my heart because, you know, I always, whatever I do, I do with my heart. Right. When you have love in your heart, but you're a boxer and you're fighting someone. I need to.

It's like an animal. Right. If you are whatever animal, you're good. But if you need to bring food for your family or you need to take care of your family, you're gonna do everything. And fight. So, I'm walking with love, but I'm a fighter.

You walk with love, but when you're fighting... I'm a fighter. You're a fighter. Did something switch in your mind when you had your daughter at 17? Did you become more focused as a fighter or did anything shift inside of you in terms of i need to work harder or was it the same type of routine same same same for me i never thought about being a world champion you never thought

no matter what never doubt never a doubt about being a... Never a doubt about it. I, I... My daughter comes and I say, even more. Even more focus, even more determine everything.

I think my daughter teach me a lot of things and make me put that extra. Really? So you trained harder, you focused more? I think my daughter made me put that extra motivation. And you have a big family, like seven or eight siblings, right?

Eight, yeah. Seven brothers or six brothers, right? Seven and one sister. That's incredible. And I saw a video of you talking about how your brother got kidnapped at one point right before a fight. Yeah. Is that true? That's true, yeah.

How did you manage? And you had to do all these interviews. You had to prepare for a fight mentally, emotionally. How were you able to focus and deal with the kidnapping of your brother? It was very difficult. Yeah. For me, it was very difficult because it was the the week of the fight that's so it was a very difficult time for for for me and for for the family but uh i don't know i don't know how i might go

go for that situation but i I always say, you know, I'm going to do my best in everything. And at the end, everything was good, and I handled good. You handled it. Did you think about stopping the fight? No. Oh, never. Just keep going. Keep going no matter what

my life need to keep going what is being a father taught you about life now that you're a father of many kids what has that taught you about i think i think everything you need to because you need to walking with example for your kids. You know, it's the best teach for them. Your kids, you're the best teacher for them. Yeah, if you do the correct things and they show you how you do that, that thing is, I think, they're going to learn. Right, right.

You can say a lot of things, but if they saw you doing your example yeah yeah your way of being you know it's the example is uh the best thing yeah we're talking about meditation before we started filming that this year you started getting into meditation yeah breathing listening to music meditation we're talking about dr joe dispenza before what has meditation meditation we're talking about dr joe dispenza before what has meditation done to you to support you in your training and preparing for fighting i i feel in my best moment right now because of the meditation yeah i'm feeling my best i feel uh not just in boxing, in life. Life, in relationships. Relationships, friends, business, boxing, everything, everything. I think for me, meditation changed my mind. Really?

Changed my life. What have you learned about it so far? Everything. Like what I say, if you're walking with love, you're going to be good everywhere. And it's a lot of things that love comes. Bad things too, right? we just think our love is love. No, love comes with limits, with respect, with a lot of things comes with love.

So if you're walking with love, I think you're going to be good everywhere. Yes. I ask a lot of people about the difference between success and greatness. This show is called The School of Greatness. And I'm curious, what is your definition of success versus greatness? No se traduce en espanol greatness.

Is there a word for greatness in Spanish? Or is it? Greatness in Spanish is like the best. The best. The best. The best. Okay. In your mind, what is the definition of greatness versus the definition of success?

Success, I think success is in life you do whatever thing. If you got success, that's success. But a greatness is... Like an accomplishment or like a... Accomplishment, yeah. Like a world champion. Uh-huh. That's success. That's success.

And what's greatness in your mind? What I'm doing, that's greatness. Go out of your comfort zone and do things everybody say you can't do it. I think that's the difference in belief and whatever you want to do. I think what happened with me is nobody believes in me before because I'm too short for that weight classes and this and that. Skinny, short. And I show them what person can accomplish with with with with that determination with that believe in yourself and everything I think and I and I'm just starting right now yeah I'm just starting because in now? Yeah, I'm just starting.

In boxing? You're just starting in boxing now? In boxing, whatever years come left, like four or five years, I don't know. But in my life, in my life, I think I just want to teach other boxers, other athletes, they need to put things outside boxing too. Because, you know, that history, the athletes come and win a lot of money, win a lot, have a lot of success, and at the end of the day, they got nothing. Right. Nobody, everybody forget that.

Five years later, 10 years later. Yeah. So I want to teach them they need to do something outside the boxing, outside every sport they do. And if you risk your life for 20 years in boxing, and then at the end of the day, five years later, you go in the same position, what's... Right. Yeah. Do you ever get worried about... My boxing trainer, when I work out for fun?

I'm not a trainer like you, obviously. But when I boxed for fun a few years ago, I said, hey, you know, all these YouTube people were like boxing and fighting and all these people. I said, hey, would you ever train me if someone wanted to fight me? And he said, I wouldn't train you. And he was an Olympic medalist, Olympic medalist. He said, I wouldn't train you. Boxing. And he said, I wouldn't train you and he was an olympic uh medalist olympic uh medalist he said i want to train boxing he said i want to train you i said why not he said just the damage that people get with their the head injuries you know and he said i've just seen too many fighters get hit so many times and hurt themselves has that ever worried you about just so much head part of my yep right

has ever concerned you or i always i I always, that's what I train. I train to don't get so much hit. Yeah, you're very good. Defense is amazing. Yeah, defense. I train so much in defense. I don't want to get hit. Yeah.

But, I mean, this is sport. I mean, I'm never worried about it. this is poor uh i mean i'm i'm but i can't i never worry about it i i worry about it because i've trained i i don't i don't i don't want to get hit but uh at the end of the day i'm i'm there yeah it's part of the job yeah when you see someone like muhammad ali or other boxers who maybe have brain injuries who are older does that ever worry you or concern you no yeah no because you know it's what i love and at the end of the day yeah if something happened it is what it is right i had um you can go in the stairs and fall something happened happened, you know? I had Mike Tyson on twice on my show, and I had Jake Paul on. I know they're fighting. I'm sure everyone's asking you about it. I'm curious, who do you think would be a harder fight for you

right now? Mike Tyson or Jake Paul? In a hypothetical scenario, who do you think would be tougher for you? In a hypothetical scenario, who do you think would be tougher for you? I think if you put them together in the ring with me, maybe it's going to be a little complicated. But one or the other, they're not the same, you think? They're the same, you think, for you? Who do you think would win between them? It's hard to say, but, you know, it's risky for Mike Tyson. Really? Why?

Yeah, because he's 57 and 58, I don't know. And boxing is not a joke joke it's no joke it's but uh you know i know i get it i get i get i get it what they why they do this it's a business yeah yeah they're gonna fight with 18 ounces with no bigger clubs yeah yeah yeah it's a business you speaking of business uh you've been getting into business more and more over the years which i'm excited to talk about as well real estate your own businesses canelo energy you know all these different brands that you're building what excites you the most about business and entrepreneurship most about business and entrepreneurship?

And is it a distraction to do all that as well as fight ever? No, no, no. No, it's a distraction because I have my correct people doing my team, everything. And, and I do what I need to do for my business. And I'm, I'm, I care about every business I have. But I like it. I enjoy doing real estate. I enjoy drinking my drinks. And everything I do, I really enjoy it.

Yeah. What is your vision for your… My stations, everything. You've got a lot going on. What is your vision for your stations everything you got a lot going on what is your vision for your for your future after boxing is it to be a business leader in the world or what is the main vision that you have for business yeah that's that's my goal is being one of the best businessmen in the world really yeah why does that excite you so much after boxing?

I just love it. I like I love to be involved in this kind of things and in and see how they go big and big and big and big, you know, starting with with some and then grow up. I like it so much because when I was young, I saw my brother Ricardo. He put ice cream store with $5,000. And we build in five, six months, like bring people, bring people, bring people.

And then he sell it for $30,000, $40,000. And I saw him, and I just started learning. Started learning, and I really enjoyed that kind of things. Well, that's beautiful, man. I've got three final questions for you. But again, I want to thank you for taking the time to do this. This has been exciting. This is a question I ask everyone towards the end of my conversations.

It's called the three truths. So it's a hypothetical question. So I want you to imagine you get to live as long as you want in life. To be 100 years old or 120, whatever it is, you get to live as long as you want. You have the career you want in boxing for the next five, seven years. You become a mega billionaire in business. You do everything you want. You see your kids grow up. But at the end of the day, it's the last day of life. But at the end of the day, it's the last day of life. And you only get to share three lessons with the world from everything you've learned about boxing and relationships and love and business.

What three lessons would you share with the world on your last day of life? I think love is the first one. Love. I think love is, have a lot of, a lot of, that three lessons I want to say because love come with limits respect and everything but i think love uh determination and believe in yourself believe in yourself how do people who feel very insecure who don't love, who don't have any skills or talents. I think everything comes from that. How do they learn to believe in themselves though if they don't have it? It's very difficult because you know it's difficult to learn to have security because they come with a lot of problems, not from them, from the

past generation. Yes. It's not from them. It's from the past generation. They have a lot of troubles. From their parents. That's why you're acting like... Because you have problems that are not your problems.

Yes. It's your generation. Yes. Your generation. So it's difficult. I think with meditation is... It's possible. It's possible. Because you had a lot of past problems in your, you know, in your family in the past, but how did you...

It's not your problems. Right. But meditation teach you that. Yes. I think meditation is one of the best things i learned that's beautiful man because when you walking with that thing you carry from your past you're acting like you're normal but not you're carrying with problems from the past yeah and you have a lot of problems too because you you you're walking with that yes always um one more you acting you're

acting from the past too yeah yeah i've got one final question for you um but before i ask it i want to acknowledge you canelo for your generosity for your passion for your love uh for your country for the sport for people and and just how you show up with consistency in your life. It's inspiring to watch a champion be a good person as well. I know you give back to charities in your country and you do so much good. So I acknowledge you for the loving man

that you are in this world. Thank you so much. My final question, when you're on top of this ring with your hands raised and the flag of Mexico behind you on your last fight, four, five, six, seven years away, and it's your last moment to stand up and say, Viva Mexico, after a win, what is it you want your legacy to be after that last match? One of the best in the history of boxing.

Yeah. And I'm going to cry that day. That day? Yeah, a lot. Why? Because I'm going to miss boxing so much. You'll miss it? Yeah.

so much. Yeah. That moment when you walk into the room and hear all the people screaming and singing that song you put and everything, I'm gonna miss that moment better. That's life. That's life, man. You're a legend, man.

Appreciate you, Canelo. Thanks, brother. Gracias. Nice to meet you, brother. Gracias. So we just finished with Canelo amazing time his English is getting better every time I see him do interviews so it was really cool to watch

him talk about love was one of the main things how to have love in your heart for your sport for your family for your country for the business that you're a part of but he talked about love a lot, which I thought was really cool. To see someone almost 20 years in a profession love his sport and his career just as much and have

just as much hunger as when he started almost 20 years ago, it was really inspiring to see. And to see how he keeps his his family close his team very close and he doesn't have a lot of distractions you know he likes to train in an isolated location where there's not a lot of distractions he likes to live in a location where he's not distracted but just have the most important things in his life at all times so i think it's really cool uh that at this age this season of life he is continually showing up training harder than ever to be the best he can be. And he has no fear. He's not afraid to lose. He's not afraid to get hurt. He understands that comes with part of his career and what he's up to.

But it doesn't hold him back from being determined to succeed and do something beautiful and great with his life. And, you know, what he said at the end, which I thought was really cool, you know, what's it going to feel like when you win that last fight and you decide it's time to retire? Where he was reflecting on how that would look after 20, 25 years plus of a career to then feel all the emotions rushing in on that last fight. So have a beautiful time. Amazing inspiration with the greatest of all time, Canelo. I hope today's episode inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a rundown of today's show

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