The School of Greatness - Control Your Mind In Minutes & Attract The Future You Desire w/ Joe Dispenza EP 1413
Episode Date: March 25, 2023https://lewishowes.com/mindset - Order a copy of my new book The Greatness Mindset today!Joe Dispenza is an international speaker, researcher, author, and educator who is passionate about the findings... from the fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics to explore the science behind spontaneous remissions. He uses that knowledge to help people heal themselves of illness, chronic conditions, and even terminal diseases so they can enjoy a more fulfilled and happy life as well as evolve their consciousness.Joe is the New York Times bestselling author of You Are the Placebo: Making Your Mind Matter, which explores our ability to heal without drugs or surgery, but rather by thought alone. His most recent book, Becoming Supernatural, talks about how we can intentionally change our brain chemistry to initiate profoundly mystical, transcendental experiences and develop a more healthy body, mind, and spiritual life.Joe didn’t always work in the field of neuroscience. He started out as a chiropractor, earning his doctor of chiropractic degree from Life University in Atlanta, GA. He had a successful chiropractic practice, but one day he had a dangerous accident. In 1986, while cycling in a triathlon, Joe was hit by a truck. He broke six vertebrae in his spine, and his doctors told him he would never walk again.Joe asked four different surgeons what he should do, and all four of them prescribed a complicated surgery. The surgery would relieve some of his pain but nearly guarantee he would never walk again. But that wasn’t good enough. He refused to have the surgery and instead began to imagine himself totally healed. He visualized each vertebrae healing and reconstructed his spine in his mind. In just ten and a half weeks, Joe was back on his feet, and in twelve weeks, he was training again and back at work at his chiropractic clinic. He fully healed himself with just his mind.In this episode you will learn:How to stop being held back by your past.Why gratitude is crucial for changing your thoughts.About the scientific evidence backing up Dr. Joe’s work.How to use quantum physics to accomplish your dreams.Joe’s prediction for the future.The reason people’s dreams don’t happen.Plus much more…For more go to lewishowes.com/1413Click below to hear  Joe Dispenza's previous episodes,Break Free Of The Addiction To Negative Thoughts And Emotions: EP 1309Transform Your Mind To Manifest & Attract Financial Abundance: EP 1288Transform Your Mind For Lasting Love & Magnetic Relationships (Part 1): EP 1054Â
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I firmly believe that taking charge of your mindset allows you to be in the driver's seat
of your life and unlock your potential. And that's why I'm thrilled to share that my new
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for greatness through powerful exercises and toolkits designed to propel your life forward.
This is the book that I wish I had 20 years ago.
It's everything I've learned in the last decade with the research and the science to help you
unlock your mind. Make sure to go to lewishouse.com slash 2023 mindset to pick up your copy of my book,
The Greatness Mindset today. 95% of who we are by the time we're 35 years old is a set of unconscious automatic programs that we've just practiced so many times that we're not consciously thinking about those.
So in order for you to change to answer the initial question that you asked, the first step is you've got to become...
Welcome to the School of Greatness.
My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur.
And each week we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock
your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.
Welcome to today's special episode. Over the last 1300 plus episodes, there have been so many
impactful interviews that I've been lucky enough to have. And I always like to reflect on some of
the most powerful. And this episode was one that resonated with most of you guys in the past. And
I'm excited for the value it's going to bring you today as well. So I hope you enjoy today's episode.
you today as well. So I hope you enjoy today's episode. People need the information that you have. And there's a reason that you're so effective with your work. And there's so many
transformations in your work. And we were just talking before about how people are literally
transformed when they read your books, when they listen to interviews like this with you, when they go through week-long workshops of some of the crazy stuff that you do.
And I was asking you, why is this stuff really taking off now in the last year, year and a half?
Because you've been doing this work for a couple of decades now, right?
Yeah.
Two decades?
Yeah, just about, yeah.
Almost two decades.
And you've been in tons of documentaries, movies, you've been doing interviews interviews for a long time but really it's taken off in last year and
you said because now we have evidence of about a lot of things that you're
working on the things that you've been believing for so many years that you
knew worked for you and you saw transformation with yourself we're not
going to go into your accident because that's in the last interview but now we
have proof and evidence and science backing all this. And how did that start to happen? Yeah, it's a great dialogue
because I think this is a time in history where it's not enough to know. This is a time in history
to know how. And if you rewind the tape 10 years ago, you know, information was the thing that
stimulated thought, stimulated new ideas. And as we learn new things, we make new connections in our brains.
So as we begin to add new stitches into that three-dimensional tapestry in our mind,
we're beginning to cause our mind to function in new ways.
But the key then is to apply it, to personalize it, to do something with it.
And 10 years ago, when I got in front of an audience and talked about the application, nobody wanted to step outside that philosophical, theoretical,
intellectual realm, right? Because doing something means you're going to have to
change something about yourself. Painful. Yeah, you're going to get uncomfortable, right?
And I think we're in an age of information. And in an age of information, ignorance is a choice.
information and in an age of information ignorance is a choice and because of technology we have access to so much content and
Information creates awareness and awareness is consciousness and you can't have consciousness without energy there they work together
So there's an energetic change. I think that's taking place in the world right now where people are so informed
That old models old paradigms are beginning to break down whether it's the medical model, the religious model, the education model, journalism, the economy, politics, it's all beginning to come to the surface because something else has
to come out.
And I think that one of the things that people are realizing is that you don't have to be
a Buddhist monk to do this or a nun with 40 years of devotion. You just got to understand the formula. And
just like any skill or anything you learn, you got to go from thinking to doing to being.
You got to take knowledge, you create the experience and if you keep doing it over and
over again you start getting a skill or you start getting wise about how to do it and you you know that you know how to do it well in the last 10 years we have assembled a scientific team and let's see
if you can really make significant brain changes i don't want those changes to just be in your mind
i want them to be in your brain i want to be able to see before and after pictures to say that person has a significant change after a traumatic brain injury or anxiety or depression or a cyclic mood disorder or a stroke. We want to see that that transformation process looks like and in the discovery Lewis of that process
We gained so much knowledge about what that transformational process looks like in other words
I can tell you without a doubt that if you're analyzing your life right now within some disturbing emotion that
100% of the time you're going to make your brain worse
that 100% of the time you're going to make your brain worse.
If you think about your life.
If you're stuck in an emotion, like you're frustrated, you're angry, you're fearful.
Resentful.
Resentful, and you're thinking within that emotional state. In other words, you can't think greater than how you feel.
That means then you were thinking in the past because those emotions are a residue of the past.
because those emotions are a record or residue of the past.
So we see people in the process of change that are analyzing in duality or polarity.
That kind of drives the brain into higher states of arousal and further away from true change.
So we've done thousands and thousands and thousands of brain scans and we now know that there's
a formula to create greater brain coherence, greater brain efficiency to make your brain
work better and when your brain works better, you work better.
At the same time, it requires a clear intention and an elevated emotion to begin to change
your energy and to change your life and nobody changes until they change their energy right so then how do you get a person
out of resentment frustration into joy and freedom if why would they feel
grateful or joyful or free if the experience hasn't happened so most
people are spending the majority of their life waiting for something out
there to take away their emptiness or pain or the resentment in here.
Well if they're waiting their whole life in separation or lack and we create reality then
the lack is driving certain thoughts which is creating more separation and more lack.
So teaching people then to begin to condition their body emotionally before the evidence
takes place in their life is breaking a significant
habit.
Right?
So instead of living by cause and effect, now we're beginning to cause an effect.
So the moment you start feeling whole and grateful, we now know your healing will begin
at that moment.
Yes.
The moment you start feeling worthy and abundant, your wealth is coming.
You're generating a certain amount of energy, a certain amount of wealth. How does someone feel worthy, though,
if they've always been told they're not worth it?
Yeah, well, so...
Or that's the story they tell themselves.
I'm not worth it because she didn't say yes
when I asked her on a date.
Right.
Because he broke up with me,
because I got fired,
because my parents left me.
How am I worth it
when there's so much evidence or story
around a negative thing? Well, let's stop telling the story of your past and let's start telling the story of
your future and and people who aren't defined by a vision of the future for the most part are left
with memories of the past your brain is a record of the past it's an artifact of everything you've
learned and experienced in this moment so most people wake up in the morning and they start thinking about their problems.
And those problems are memories that are tattooed in the brain that are associated with certain
people and things at certain times and places.
So the moment the person wakes up, clean slate, they start thinking about the problems they're
thinking in the past.
If you believe your thoughts have something to do with your destiny, well, there's a possibility
that your past is going to be your future.
Every one of those problems has an emotion associated with it.
So then the moment you start recalling the problem, you start feeling unhappy.
Now your body's in the past because thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings
are the language of the body and how you think and how you feel creates a state of being.
So people reaffirm their identity based on the past, right?
And it turns out that the redundancy of doing that, conditioning only requires an image
and an emotion.
Most people are unconsciously conditioning their body into the familiar past, into the
known.
So now if you're in the familiar past and in the known, you're going to crave the predictable future. That's the known as well. And there's only one place
where the unknown exists and that's the eternal present moment. That's the sweet spot of the
generous present moment. So you got to labor to get that person beyond the emotions that
keep them tacked or anchored to the past. And yes, it takes an effort to do that. But if you keep
working with the formula, you'll reach that elegant moment where there's a liberation of energy.
And now your body as the unconscious mind, the objective mind is not believing it's living in
the same past experience 24 hours a day because you're liberating the body from that emotional
state. So you ask the person. Why are you so unhappy?
Why are you so frustrated? Why are you so resentful the moment you ask that their brain is going to associate that emotion to a past event
It's what memory
That's because they have nothing to look forward to in their future
So if you're not being defined by a vision in the future
It just means to me that you're more in love with your past
being defined by a vision of the future. It just means to me that you're more in love with your past
than you are with the future.
So how do you teach people to believe in a future
that they can't see or experience with their senses yet,
but they've thought about enough times in their mind
that their brain has literally changed
to look like the event has already occurred?
The latest research in neuroscience says
that's absolutely possible.
We know that.
And how do you teach a person?
to select a new possibility in their future and begin to emotionally embrace that future before it's made manifest
To such a degree that their body is their unconscious mind is believing
It's living in that future reality in the present moment and they're signaling new genes in new ways ahead of the environment
In the present moment and they're signaling new genes in new ways ahead of the environment
Now to their body begins to change to look like the event has already occurred We've proven that that's possible now think about this so the more you think about your desired future the joy the gratitude the
The feelings you want to have that are more positive the more you think about about it as a future thing happening, the more your body shifts now.
Exactly.
So your body is believing it's living in that future reality in the present moment.
Now think about this.
The stronger the emotion you feel from some condition in your life, the more altered you
feel inside of you, the more you narrow your focus on the cause and the brain freezes an
image and takes a snapshot.
And that memory now is embossed in the brain.
It's branded in there.
So then people think neurologically within the circuits of those past experiences
and they feel chemically within the boundaries of those emotions.
And the stronger the betrayal, the stronger the trauma,
the more the body's living in the past, right?
So how do you reverse that?
So now, if you truly
got passionate about a future, we've all done this, you get a wild idea in your mind and
you start holding on to that vision and you're preoccupied with it, all of a sudden the thought
in your mind becomes the experience and you start feeling the energy of the future. Now,
the stronger the emotion you feel from that vision, the more you're going to pay attention
to the picture in your mind.
And now you're remembering your future.
And vice versa.
The stronger you pay attention to the feeling of the past pain, you're going to create the pain in this moment.
Exactly.
So it requires a coherent brain.
And we now know that there's a formula for that.
And we've got beautiful research to show that people can do it.
They just have to practice.
And it requires a coherent heart because resentment frustration in patience
creates a very incoherent heart yeah and when that heart becomes incoherent you
stop trusting yourself there's no energy they get you stop trusting in your
future so then if there's physical evidence in your brain and body physical
evidence to look like the event has already
occurred, it's quite possible you'll be thinking neurologically within the circuits of your
future and you'll begin to feel chemically within the boundaries of that emotion of your
future and how you think and how you feel is your state of being.
And now your state of being is living in the future instead of the past.
Now, the moment you disconnect from the emotion of your future
because of traffic or some coworker or your ex or whatever people come up with,
now you're back to the energy of your past. And now you're going to start looking for it,
analyzing why hasn't it happened. Well, if you're feeling the emotion of your future,
why would you look for it? Because you would feel like it already happened and that is the place where the magic happens.
So then you can't just do this, get up and then return back to your old state of being.
You got to maintain that modified state of mind and love it.
How do you maintain it when life happens?
Well, let me finish.
If I punch you in the face right now, how do you maintain it?
Well, of course, of course.
I mean, we all take blows in our lives.
And we all react emotionally.
But the question is, how long are you going to react?
Right, right.
So then if you can't mediate and regulate your emotional reactions,
and those emotions linger for days.
That's a mood.
Years for some people.
Mood.
And then months, temperament.
Years, personality trait.
So then the person's
personality is literally based on the past but they don't know that because
they're doing it over and over again it becomes a subconscious program so now if
requires a coherent brain and a coherent heart then we have to train people how
to self-regulate so we've done thousands and thousands of measurements. We've
partnered with the HeartMath Institute to teach people how to create and sustain heart coherence.
How do we do it? Well, besides going to your workshop, what's the simplified version? I'm
sure it takes more time than... Well, it really doesn't. It really doesn't. It just requires
getting still, closing your eyes, putting your attention on your heart, changing your breath so that you move into the present moment. And when
you slow your breathing down, you slow your brainwaves down. When you slow your brainwaves
down, now you're accessing your autonomic nervous system. So then you train a person
how to open their heart and feel an elevated emotion. And it takes a little practice. And
just like a flower that takes time to bloom it takes a little bit of time but if you
work and trading the resentment the frustration or the impatience for
gratitude appreciation and thankfulness and you keep at it they'll come a moment
where that system switches on and now you're feeling grateful for no reason at
all that's that's not a bad thing because gratitude, the emotional signature of gratitude means something's happening to you.
Something has happened to you.
You're receiving something or you just receive something.
So your body then, when you're feeling gratitude, is in the perfect state of receiving.
So then that means then you'll accept, believe, and surrender to the thoughts equal to the emotional state of gratitude.
If you're living in resentment, you're living in fear, you're living in impatience, you could say,
I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I'm wealthy, I'm with all you want.
And that thought's going to stop right at the brain stem and never make its way to the body because the body's...
Because your heart's not feeling it because you're feeling resentment and that
thought isn't that thought is not consistent with the emotion of resentment.
Resentment has a different set of thoughts right.
In other words once you start opening your heart it begins to move into coherence it
begins to produce a measurable magnetic field up to three meters wide.
Now that's frequency, that's energy.
And all that energy, that frequency carries information, carries an intent.
So then when you're feeling gratitude and your heart is open, you're broadcasting energy
into the field.
A frequency.
A frequency.
You lay the intent of the thought of your health
or your wealth, that frequency can carry the thought
of your wealth.
It can carry the thought of your health.
If you're suffering, you can't,
the suffering does not carry,
that energy does not carry the thought of your wealth.
It carries a different set of thoughts.
So then we're teaching people how to self-regulate because if you're going to believe in that future that you're imagining with all of your heart, it better be open and activated.
Right, right.
And you better know how to self-regulate.
And you have to know the moment you disconnect from the energy of your future because of some circumstance in your life and you lose that feeling, if you're practicing it on a daily basis with your eyes closed, then the
next level is to be able to open your eyes and do it right in the moment and be able
to self-regulate and change the frustration from some experience in your life back to
the energy of your future.
Now, that requires great awareness and great effort, but if you have a community of people
that are practicing this on a daily basis
and they're connected to their future
because that's where their mind is,
they begin to want the future
more than the emotions of the past.
So we've done enough measurements now, Lewis,
to know that we can teach people how to do that
and we have evidence that people can sustain it for 45 minutes to an hour.'s a skill now they know that they know how to do it so now they have
brain coherence and heart coherence well once the heart begins to become orderly and coherent
it acts as an amplifier and it drives energy to the brain so now the brain is getting more energy
once the heart is open and then you're thinking different set of thoughts and those thoughts
produce different chemicals for you to feel more of that and here comes nitric oxide
from oxytocin and all of a sudden your heart literally starts to swell it literally begins
to open up and there's more energy going there and now you're coming from a different level of mind
right so then what about what happens to your immune system when you do that? Well, it turns out we've done an experiment,
just 10 minutes a day,
three times a day with 120 people,
trading resentment, frustration, fear,
for gratitude, appreciation, and thankfulness.
Measuring their immune response,
the chemical immunoglobulin A,
your primary defense against bacteria and viruses,
the best flu shot you'll ever get, lives innately within you. Turns out when
you're frustrated, when you're impatient, when you're fearful, the immune system
dials down because you're in emergency. It's not that all your energy is going
for some threat in your outer world, there's no energy in your inner world
for growth and repair. But how do you turn that around so then as people begin to open their heart?
Can that chemical begin to to elevate?
four days
50% change in the hundred and twenty people there their IGA levels went up 50% in four days
That's your body's immune system is now up regulating genes that are making proteins and immunoglobulins and antibodies that you don't need a flu shot.
In other words, your inner state is greater than your outer world.
So then just by doing that, we now know that your immune system is going to get stronger by the same means.
Take 120 people or 50 people and measure 7,500 gene regulations
Okay in four days two genes that suppress cancer growth and tumors are
Activated and up regulated the genes that stimulate stem cells will go to damaged tissues and repair them up regulated the gene for
Oxidative balance is up regulated anti-cancer anti-aging anti-aging, anti-heart disease, anti-stroke, anti-neurodegenerative, anti-inflammatory, anti-microbial, just your body's naturally doing this.
The gene for neurogenesis, the growth of new neurons in response to novel experiences and
learning.
This is four days, the gene switches on.
The gene for more balance in the pituitary and the pancreas, the gene for the microtubules of the cells, the little fibers that respond to energy and frequency.
So in four days, we now know that you can change your genetic destiny if you just practice the inner work.
We have research to show that 60 days of meditation, five days a week, will lengthen your life. The telomomeres the little shoestrings on the end of your DNA get longer
That means your biological age is changing. So we we have the evidence now
To show people what's possible. We have brain scans that that are so outside of normal that when
Neuroscientists see them. They're blown away because the amount of energy that's in the brain during this
transcendental moment is
Hundreds of times outside of normal. Wow. I mean you can't make your brain do that
Something is happening to you and that person's having a transcendental moment
We now know that we can predict it and we now that know that we can induce it. So then there's the evidence
there. Then you take our community and you see people with stage four cancer, with Parkinson's
disease, with myasthenia gravis, with lupus, with MS, with brain injuries, with rare genetic
disorders, with vertigo, tinnitus, kidney failure, all kinds of health conditions come to a week-long event
and then at the end of that event, they make significant strides in getting beyond the
emotions of the past. Now think about this. The science says that the environment signals the
gene. That's epigenetics. The end product of an experience in the environment
is an emotion.
So as long as you're living by the same emotion
every single day, you're signaling the same gene
in the same way.
And if that gene is related to a survival emotion,
a stress hormone, then you're down-regulating the gene
and you're creating disease.
So when the person trades that emotion
and really breaks free from the chains of their past,
and now they're feeling an elevated emotion
Well now they're dialing down the gene for MS
And they're up regulating the gene for health and balance and so the person will you say to them? Where's the disease?
Well, I'm not the same person
I'm not this and and the side effect of that is a transformation in healing. So
And the side effect of that is a transformation in healing.
So the funny thing about it is the person who has the healing is not talking about the healing.
Whether it's blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, we have crazy evidence now.
What they're talking about is how amazing they feel.
Because they're refreshed.
They got a new lease on life and so now we
have evidence in our research and that silences the critic to show that what's
possible for people and now we have evidence and testimony that we have
evidence where people will stand on the stage and say hey I broke my back in
three places I haven't been able to stand up straight I came into this event
hunched over I couldn't lay down Now this guy's jumping around on the stage. He's laying on
his back. He's touching his toes. You can tell. I mean, he's having his moment. We freed,
we changed somebody. Someone with Parkinson's disease can't swallow, can't chew, can't blow
her nose, can't stand up. One up one moment one moment the next thing you know
She's blowing her nose chewing swallowing
We changed her body we changed her life and we changed her future and she doesn't look like a movie star
And she doesn't look like she's a vegetarian and she doesn't look like she's buffed
She just looks like a normal person now the person in the audience
Who's watching that and looking at this person and
seeing that they're no different than them, it just starts to cause them to think if someone
else can do it, I can do it. So you see the person with the stage four cancer that got the,
you know, the voodoo curse that they have three months to live. And now they have no evidence of
cancer in their body and they're standing on the stage telling that story. And somebody in the
audience is checking her out going I have the
same condition and if she can do it I'm gonna step right in that footprint I'm
gonna do it the way she did it and all of a sudden you start seeing this change
in the community in a week-long event because once there's a breakthrough
right I mean it's like a four-minute mile it's in the field you know and but
it's not only in the field, you're seeing evidence
in three-dimensional reality and evidence is the loudest voice right now. And so people don't want
to see talking heads. Anybody can see them on the internet. Information is readily available. What
they want to see is evidence. And so when you have evidence in the scientific realm and then you have
evidence in a community of people and you're not doing
anything that's so extreme that excludes anybody. It's inclusive and we're using science
as the contemporary language of mysticism. It is science that's going to demystify the mystical.
If I talk tradition, culture, religion, any of those things, spiritual principles, people
are going to shut off.
You're going to divide an audience.
But science creates community.
So by building a scientific model, I don't subscribe to any type of meditation because
I look at the evidence of what we've gathered and let's see by applying this formula to what extent can we prove to human
beings how powerful they really are and I think that that has become something that has mystified
me because when I see blind people seeing in our workshops I have to tell you that I'm more
surprised than anybody I'm standing up there shaking my head, and we have great evidence.
One woman, she's a nurse,
and one day she just wakes up,
and she's got a blind spot in her eye.
She can't see in the lower left-hand quadrant of both eyes,
6 o'clock to 9 o'clock.
She's a nurse. She goes to see her colleagues. They do a scan, stroke on the optic nerve. And now she's legally blind. She
can't drive her car. She runs her own company. She can't run her company. She can't type. She
can't use the computer. She's compromised in a big way now with a stroke
You have two weeks really that's the window and if nerve cells are gonna come back online
It's going to be those first two weeks if they don't come back the prognosis is live with it whether you have
Paralysis or whatever that if a stroke causes brain damage and usually two to three weeks You don't see many much change so they gave
her the you know the prognosis you have to learn to accommodate and live with it
and so she she she wasn't satisfied with that answer and she goes to one of her
dear friends who's a physician and the physician says go check out the Spencer
guy and she says why don't you come with me so they come to our event in Brighton
in the UK together.
Was this within the three weeks or was this later?
Do you know?
Oh, no, this is a year later.
Wow.
This is a year later.
So it's supposed to be irreversible at that point.
And so she comes to the event.
And then she comes to the event for two reasons.
Listen to this.
To learn how to live with her handicap.
That's the extent of what's possible in her mind.
To have her peace and yeah.
Yeah. And then create a non-profit to help people. Those were her two things. So
somewhere in the middle of the event where she, it occurs to her that she could actually
possibly heal her eyes. So she goes for it. She lays down after one of the meditations. We lay down at the end and all of a sudden like in her head she
starts feeling this heat and this crackling sensation. Now you have one of
two options when something like this happens. You get scared. You get scared.
It's the unknown. You contract. Your brain goes into high beta and you disconnect.
Something's wrong. Right. Right. I'm hurting something. I'm having another stroke.
Whatever. Or you surrender and relax into it.
Yeah, you go in.
And she let go and she had the most incredible experience.
She laid there for the longest time,
opened her eyes and she said it was like
the lights came back on.
She said, I could see completely.
We sent her for a scan.
The Monday morning after that week long event, the scan that had the left lower quadrant
on both eyes from six o'clock to nine o'clock was black. The post-scan, there isn't one black spot
anywhere on her eyes. Because she'd already done a scan a year prior. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She had
the scan. So we'll give you the evidence, but that is not natural.
That's not normal.
But how do you explain that in conventional science?
I mean, the truth is that we have incredibly powerful innate qualities for regeneration and healing once you hit that button.
So then she stands in the audience and gives her testimony.
Other people are going to begin to realize that they can heal from a stroke. And that's exactly what's happening.
A collective consciousness is happening. What is the moment of transformation for
someone like that? Because I know that healing can happen in an instant.
So what's the thing that triggers that instant for someone to go from?
disbelief to belief and It actually transforming them in the physical body. Yeah, we've studied this and there's no linear correlation
Because think about this that woman is a pragmatist
She knew nothing she nuts wasn't spiritual in any way
She just read my books and then started practicing the meditations.
Now, she was practicing those meditations for months before the event because she wanted
to come and be fully prepared for it. So, from the outside, you see this one moment.
But what you don't see is the number of times she worked in overcoming herself
and getting beyond whoever she is and getting into that place where she's far enough outside
familiar territory, neurologically, chemically, genetically, that all of a sudden she connects.
It clicks.
She connects. She starts connecting to that invisible field called the quantum field.
And you can't connect as your body.
There's nothing physical to connect to there.
You have to get beyond all your associations.
You know, it's interesting.
I think I might have talked to you about this last time.
I grew up in a religion called Christian science that talked a lot about this.
It was embedded in my
mind that I'm a spiritual being and that I can never be physically hurt. Like I'm not a material
body that there are no accidents, that there's no injury, and it was always embedded in my mind that
I can never be physically harmed or I can be instantly healed. And so my entire childhood I had all these incredible healings quickly.
And I witnessed it all the time from other people and everyone was always like, how is
this possible?
So I don't know if this is something I was practicing in a different way as a child but
it's always fun for me to come back around now even though I don't practice that religion
necessarily anymore or go to the church, I still believe the same fundamental principles that I hear
you talking about in a more scientific way.
It's a good belief to have.
And you program children like you program your children that the body has an innate
capacity to heal and all of a sudden you're less reliant on something outside of you to make something
go away inside of you.
Medicine or something else.
Whatever it is, shopping, video gaming, everybody's relying on their outer world relationship
to change their inner state.
Problem is the moment you start feeling emptiness or lack, your brain is going to start to look
for something outside of you to take it away.
To fill the hole, yeah.
Right. The problem is that normally the stimulation that's created from those outer things
give the body a rush, and so the receptor sites in the cells recalibrate.
So you need more the next time to turn it on, right?
It's tough. You buy the new fancy car, and it's fun for a month.
The novelty wears off, right?
And then it's a week, and then it's a day, and you're like, it's never enough.
And that feeling never goes away. And so the only way that feeling is actually going to go away
is when you start going inward. Right. And so, so we've seen significant changes with people
and having that belief, uh, it should be tested on us. We should test our belief around that. And
my lesson through all of this is that
I'm starting to realize how conditioned we are into believing how limited we are.
And as you start peeling those layers away and you break through those beliefs, those
self-limiting thoughts and emotions, on the other side of that is where the miraculous
happens. So you've got to be willing to be in that place of discomfort long
enough to reorganize order and begin to create more coherence. And then all of a sudden you get
this recalibration that goes on in the brain and body. And then the extent of that is that
the ultimate thing is you start to see feedback in your life, those synchronicities, those
coincidences, those opportunities, you're scratching your head going. Everything's falling into place.
Yeah. I'm in the right place at the right time.
Everything I think about just comes to me.
Because your energy is synchronized.
Look, I mean, when you have coherence in the brain and heart,
you have a laser of energy, and it could read information much better.
You're living in stress, and your brain is shifting its attention
from one person to another problem, to another thing, to another place to go. Each one of those things, there's an assignment of neurological
networks in the brain. So the arousal of the stress hormones drives the brain into this
high frequency and you're trying to control and predict everything in your life. And those,
your brain circuits are firing like a, like a lightning storm in the clouds. When your brain's
incoherent, you're incoherent. And you don't have a signal.
You don't have a Wi-Fi signal.
You're not connected to the field.
How could you connect to energy and information if your signal hasn't become orderly?
So that when people synchronize their energy into coherence, they can synchronize to a
possibility in the future.
And the synchronicities that are feedback from the environment
are just a reflection of your energy.
And that's the universe saying,
follow the breadcrumbs.
Do it again.
Follow it again.
Do it again.
And now all of a sudden the person's not waking up in the morning like,
oh, I've got to meditate now to create my future.
They're kind of going like, I'm getting out of bed
because I don't want the magic to end, right? They want to sustain that state so that the old reality that they've
lived in begins to transform into something new. And because there's no longer a vibrational match
with everyone and everything in their past, present reality, there's a vibrational match
to their future. And now their future is starting to give them signals.
What's more powerful than our thoughts or our emotions?
And do our emotions change our thoughts or do our thoughts change our emotions?
Yeah, the answer is yes. The answer is both.
I mean thoughts to me produce an electrical charge in the quantum field
and feelings produce a magnetic charge in the quantum field and feelings produce
a magnetic charge in the quantum field.
Wait, thoughts produce a what?
An electrical charge and feelings produce a magnetic charge.
How you think and how you feel broadcast an electromagnetic signature that influences
every single atom in your life.
The thought sends the signal out. Now think about this.
And the feeling draws the event back. So you could have the intent that you want wealth, you want
health, you want success. That's your intent. That's your thought. But if you're waiting for
the experience to happen, to feel it, then you're not drawing the experience to you because you're not feeling the emotion, right? So then teaching people once again
how to balance their thoughts and feelings
because you can enter that cycle either place.
Sometimes we do a meditation,
we start opening our heart,
we start elevating the body's energy,
and then those emotions can drive
certain thoughts of your future.
Other times you open your awareness,
you create brain coherence, you have the vision of your
future, you begin to emotionally experience it.
However you want to jump on that cycle and then sustain it because the longer you're
conscious of that energy, the more you're drawing your future to you.
So then most people spend their lives, right?
We live in this realm called space-time,
three-dimensional reality, and you move your body through space and three-dimensional reality,
it takes time. So everything, all your goals, all your dreams, all your visions,
you're going to have to get your body up and drag it through space every day to pay off that
home that's in your future, right? When you create from the field instead of from matter when you the vibrational match between your energy and some potential and your thoughts
and feelings are coherent now you are going to begin to collapse time and space or the experience
is going to be drawn to you now now you're the vortex to your destiny and now you don't have to
go anywhere to get it because you're not playing by the rules of three-dimensional reality you're the vortex to your destiny and now you don't have to go anywhere to get it because you're not playing by the rules
Of three-dimensional reality you're playing by the rules of energy and the quantum
So teaching people how to do this and getting better at it then all of a sudden they're not
forcing and controlling outcomes in fact, they're trusting and
surrendering to outcomes because
They don't want to get in the way because the moment you start trying to predict when it's going to happen or how it's going to happen, you're
overlaying a known over a place where there should be an unknown.
So teaching people how to do that means we have to lay down the very thing we used our
whole life to get what we want for something greater to occur right and so that
transcendental moment is something that we're working on demystifying and and
you could be gluten-free person you could be a gluten-full person you could
drink wine not drink wine you could be rich you could be poor you could be any
color any shape any size in fact you can't tell me you're too old to do this
work you can't tell me that we too old to do this work. You can't tell me that.
We got elders in this work that we show you their brain scans and you'd be blown away. They know how
to do it. You can't tell me you're too sick to do this work. We got people that have reversed stage
four cancer numerous times. And yeah, it took a Herculean effort to do it, but they love themselves
for it. You can't tell me that you're too out of shape or too overweight or too underweight
You can't I've seen it all shapes and sizes
You can't even tell me that you had a brutal past and people that have had very very dismal past that are free
They're happy people. You can't even tell me you're you never meditated before in fact
Our research shows that many people have never meditated before have the most profound experiences because they're not trying to make anything happen
They're just following the instructions, right?
And they don't have a habit of doing it.
So we don't want to exclude anybody in the process.
We want to include everybody.
So it turns out that our events tend to draw a good portion of men because of the science.
We have a lot of children now, teenagers that are coming, people in their 20s.
We have a great community of elders.
We have in our events sometimes 63 different cultures coming to, countries coming to our
events between 50, 65. So, so we want to, we want to make it so inclusive that community becomes the side
effect because, because with a community of like-minded, like, like similar energy of people,
everybody understands they get one another. You know, you, you, communities tends to be the thing
now that in terms of our social media and the feedback we're getting, everybody wants more community because you get a thousand people in the audience and their energy is synchronized.
Now you're looking at something so much bigger.
We're just going to measure this.
I just talked to a researcher yesterday.
We're going to measure a thousand people when they reach that synchronized moment
when we know that the entire social coherence
in the room is orderly.
Then if you're producing a ambient, coherent,
magnetic field in your heart
and you're tuning into a thought or an intent,
and you got a thousand people doing that,
and your energy is gonna start interfering
and co-mingling with the person who's next to you.
When that energy starts to synchronize, it's going to produce a bigger wave.
The higher the amplitude, the higher the wave, the more energy there is.
So now you have one mind and one heart.
And now when it comes to healing others, and we've done the research on this now, and we're collecting the data,
we're teaching people how to administer a change in energy in a person that's laying there.
Because it's not matter that emits a field, that's the wrong way to think about it, it's
the field that creates matter.
You change the field, you change matter.
It's not your job to change the tumor.
The tumor is the illusion.
It's the pattern in the field that has to be changed.
So once people start reversing this, then you start seeing the tumors disappearing.
You start seeing blind people seeing, deaf people hearing.
You start seeing people with Parkinson's disease switch on.
I mean, you start seeing stage four cancers reversing because now you're swimming upstream.
You're going to the headwaters and making that change.
now you're swimming upstream.
You're going to the headwaters and making that change.
So pushing the envelope and then seeing that in a community,
when a community's synchronized towards the second half of a week-long event,
I mean, as I said before we started the show,
I'm more surprised than anybody when we witness some of these things. It's crazy.
What is the, we talked about, I heard you say consciousness a couple of times.
What's the difference between mindset and consciousness?
To me consciousness is awareness.
Awareness is paying attention and noticing.
And so 95% of who we are by the time we're 35 years old is a set of unconscious automatic
programs that we've just practiced so many times that we're not consciously thinking
about those. So in order for you to change to answer the initial question that you asked,
the first step is you got to become conscious of your unconscious thoughts. And you got to start
looking at those hardwired thoughts that you think every day that are just circuits that have been
fired and wired together. How do we do that? Should we write a list at the end of the day
or what are the most common thoughts we had that day?
Like how does someone become aware of their thoughts?
You don't have to do that.
You just have to sit down, close your eyes and not move.
And then you'll get, you'll start seeing.
What am I thinking about right now?
Yeah, and all you wanna do is observe the thought
because when you begin to observe that thought,
you're no longer the program now.
You're the consciousness observing the program, and you're starting to pull out of the program.
Thinking about the thinking.
Yeah.
Who's doing the thinking of the thinking about the thinking?
That's who you are when you're not the program.
That's awareness, right?
Yeah, yeah. You've got to become aware of how you speak, how you act.
Become so conscious, so aware of it, that you won't go unconscious and let that thought or that
behavior run you.
You gotta say, oh my God, this feeling that I've been living by for the last 20 years
is actually guilt.
I didn't know it was guilt because it just feels like me.
And all of a sudden as you start becoming conscious of it, you're beginning to objectify
your subjective self.
You're pulling out of those programs and nobody likes to do that because it's uncomfortable.
They'd rather turn on their cell phone, start texting, get on the internet, watch
TV to distract them from that moment.
And that is what they have to move through in order to get to their own personal freedom.
So the first step is becoming conscious. And meditation means to become familiar with, to become conscious of,
to become so conscious of your unconscious self that you won't go unconscious to any thought, any behavior or emotion.
And get ready because it takes a tremendous amount of energy to do that and awareness to stay conscious.
And so we fall from grace.
Yeah.
Fine.
You got, you got, you're awake.
You got another day.
Let's go again.
How often do you fall?
Oh my gosh.
I mean, how many times have I done it?
Thousands.
But I'm not going to give up
because the moments in which I do connect
or the moments that I do have
that transcendental experience,
what matters the most after it, when I have that transcendental moment,
I look back at all of those difficult meditations, those difficult days,
and those are the ones you remember.
You don't remember the good meditations.
You remember the ones where you came up against yourself
and you went a little further.
And you said, I'm going to go a little further, I'm going to go a little further.
Or you had a rough day and you just went in and you just, at the end of the day, you surrender
and you have the classic, oh my God moment.
There's no linear correlation.
It's just whether you're willing to live in creation
instead of living in survival.
And so you get better at it.
We just get better at it.
And for me, staying conscious and staying aware
and staying present is an
art because you know when someone's present with you in your life because they're paying
attention to you. You know when they're not present with you because they're not paying
attention to you. So imagine this field of information, this intelligence that lives
within you and I that's governing everything material in this world. It's a self-organizing intelligence. You have access to it, so you better get present with it
as well as you can get present with anything else. And just because you can't see it doesn't mean it
doesn't exist. That realm you can't experience with your senses. You can only experience with
your awareness. So then people have to take their attention off their bodies and go from a somebody to
a nobody.
Take their attention off the people in their life that they identify with and go from a
someone to a no one.
Take their attention off the things in their life, their cell phone, their computer, their
car and go from something to nothing.
Take their attention off where they sleep, where they work, where they're sitting and
go from somewhere to nowhere. Take their attention off the predictable future and where they work, where they're sitting and go from somewhere to nowhere.
Take their attention off the predictable future and the familiar past and time and go from some time to no time.
And now if you're taking all of your attention off of everything material in this three-dimensional reality,
now there's only one other thing that's left and that means you're in awareness, your consciousness.
And now that is the bridge, that is the door to the quantum field and you can't enter
the quantum field as a somebody so if someone has spent their whole life working on having the
perfect body or so much so they have so much attention on their pain where you place your
attention is where you place your energy it's going to take some work for them to take all of
their attention off their body right because they'll go they'll do it and then they'll go back
let's see if the pain's still there.
Oh, the pain's still there.
So it's a little bit of a waltz in the beginning,
but as people start applying this,
you start getting better at it.
As an example, we had Bond University,
a university in Australia on the Gold Coast.
Senior researcher took the large majority of my brain scans
and she had them analyzed by her graduate students
and they statistically looked at everything.
One of the most startling things for the research team
was our community's ability to get to that point
where they're nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere, no time.
And I'm talking four seconds.
I'm talking five seconds.
I'm talking nine seconds. Just like, just give me a second. I know how to do this. They've practiced it
enough times that the creative moment is when you get beyond yourself, when you dissociate
from everything known in your material world. Turns out when you do that and you start changing
your brainwaves, your brainwaves slow down into alpha and theta, you're suppressing the
memory bank of the known self
that keeps you plugged into three-dimensional reality.
When you quiet down this mechanism,
now all of a sudden you start connecting to that field.
And when you can stay conscious in those subconscious realms,
when you can literally regulate and change brainwaves,
now you're in the operating system
where you can make those significant changes.
We now know that when people apply the formula and they do that properly, now they're walking
through that door where they're ready to create from.
In other words, you can't create from the known.
You can't create with your body.
That's matter trying to change matter.
You can do it.
It's just going to take a long time.
When you create from the field instead of from matter, there's a whole different set of dynamics that takes place.
And why not push that envelope to see, okay, if we've done this, we've done this, is it possible to do this?
As an example, we do these wonderful healing circles where you see these dramatic instantaneous changes.
Circles where you see these dramatic instantaneous changes
So the person who's healed themselves of some health condition when it comes time to heal somebody else
That's they're gonna say well now we understand the science. I understand how this all works I know how to get beyond myself. I know how to open my heart. They start piecing it all together
let's take the formula to the next level now they witness a
Significant change in a person's body in real time, right there.
So then the next question is, okay,
like this happened many times.
As an example, the woman who was at the event
in Mallorca, Spain, her brother had a massive stroke
in Colombia and she went back to Colombia
and he was in a coma for two weeks.
She called up the healing circle and said,
hey, can we do a healing on my brother?
Now, if you're playing by the rules of Newtonian physics,
three dimensional reality, you're gonna say,
well, you need to be in front of the guy
in order to heal him.
But if you understand there's no separation in the quantum,
that everything's connected when you're in that place.
So wouldn't that be the next application of the formula so they go over the science they get it
okay we don't need we just need a picture of him and that's our coordinate
and if we're in the field of the frequency to that court yeah but but
you're not sending it anywhere because there's nowhere to send there's no space
and time in that thing you're connecting to it exactly that's a great great way
to say it in one hour after that coherence healing, he comes back to consciousness.
Wow.
Now, that's the extension of where we're going. You see, now we're progressing. A woman who was in one coherence healing group was a pediatric nurse in Children's Hospital in Seattle.
here in Ceiling Group is a pediatric nurse in Children's Hospital in Seattle. And again,
witnessed the amazing miracle after our event in Toronto. She comes back and there's a little,
they call them friends, there's a little guy failing. Doctors hit him with the paddles,
they use all the drugs to bring him back, and they walk out of the room. And they say,
we lost him. She walks over, puts her hands right in the field, and this kid comes right back online.
Doctors are like, what was that?
And now, so we have a lot of our interest now is I want to get 50%. One out of two people were collecting the data in this coherence healings.
When we're 50%, we're going to walk into a children's hospital.
We have three children's hospitals right now that are interested in us. We'll show them the data. We'll show them the results. We'll
say we don't want any money. We'll never even touch the kids. All we want to do is just change
their lives. And when we're 50%, we're going to start doing it in children's hospitals and we're
gathering the data right now. That's pretty cool. Yeah. What else would we want to do with it?
Right? Exactly. That's amazing. Do you have kids? I do.
How old are your kids?
My kids are in their 20s, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, they're all older and on their way.
What do they think about this work?
Well, my oldest son, well, first of all,
my kids have grown up with this work.
So you have to imagine, like,
my oldest son coming back to one of my advanced workshops three years ago and my friend saying,
hey, is this your first advanced workshop? And he kind of glances over and says I've been in the advanced workshop for 25 years what are you talking about so my oldest son is one of my team leaders
he's got a master's in engineering he lives in Denver in Boulder Colorado and he's he's passionate about the work.
He met his fiancée at one of my workshops and they're very, very similar.
My daughter lives in London.
She's got her Master's in Art at the Royal College of Art
and she's probably the best creator I've ever met in my life.
I mean, she's just wired.
She knows how to do it.
My youngest son is getting his degree in architecture
at Cal Poly, and they're all at different stations
in their understanding, but they understand the principles.
And I've always said to them,
you know, if you can figure this out early on,
the rest of your life is gonna be magic, right?
Because you know what to do.
And they're pretty wired for it now and and I've really worked in setting up
conditions in their lives so that they can apply these principles from an early
age and now that they're older I think that they understand how to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like a lot of people are unhappy in relationships.
Yeah.
Here's my theory.
They're like, a lot of them are failing.
I don't want to put that as a general thing,
because there's a lot of happy relationships as well.
But for people that are mission-driven,
how much more challenging is it to have a thriving relationship
when you put your life into a mission?
Here's the deal.
I will never work in a relationship.
I just won't.
If I'm working in a relationship, something's wrong.
I'll work on me.
I'll bring my best.
You bring your best.
And we get together.
And we celebrate.
It should work.
It should work.
And if it doesn't, then I'm going to step back and see what is it about me.
Not you.
What is it about me
that I need to really look at and change?
Now, if there's a vibrational match
and it flows and it's fun
and you connect physically, mentally,
mind, body, soul,
that's cool.
I think that's healthy.
But a mission-driven person can't be in a relationship where you have to keep going back and trying to fix something. I just won't do that. I just think that when it's right, it's right. And I'll know.
Yeah. I do think that relationships can be easy, and I think that they should be.
And I think that if you're heart-centered, that's a different place you meet than other emotions.
And again, every time I have a mystical moment and I feel that transcendental love that I don't even know the word for,
every time I have one of those moments, I think, I got this all wrong. It's just that
it is not chemical. It's electric.
You got what all wrong?
Well, the way we view the world. I mean, we don't see things how they are. We see things
how we are. And every inner experience that's transcendental, experience enriches circuitry in your brain.
Experience produces emotion or energy in the body.
So you start having transcendental moments where you start connecting to that field.
Its signature is love, but not love like a love for your puppy.
This is like an arousal.
This is, I don't know the other word, but bliss.
Spiritual arousal. Yeah I don't know the other word but spiritual arousal yeah and we
have the we have the evidence we can say oh watch this watch this person's brain and scientists are
studying our work I'll say oh watch she's gonna pop in a few minutes what do you mean just watch
she's gonna pop and all of a sudden this person goes into an arousal the sympathetic nervous
system is so switched on but the arousal isn't into an arousal. The sympathetic nervous system is so switched on,
but the arousal isn't like an arousal from the environment
that produces anger or aggression or fear or anxiety or pain or suffering.
That's survival in the environment that produces the arousal.
This arousal is coming from energy in the body that's moving up into the brain,
and the arousal is bliss.
The arousal is ecstasy.
The arousal is freedom, the arousal is ecstasy, the arousal is freedom, but it's
not chemical, you'll feel it in every single cell in your body.
Now here's the outcome of that.
The outcome of that is that when you open your eyes and some conditioning, some layer
has been removed, your spectrum of the way the world looks broadens now because now
you're wired to perceive what's always existed but you didn't have the circuits in place
to perceive them.
So then it's the inner experience that literally transforms our experience of the outer world.
And so when you start having moments where you hit that kind of frequency
or you have those moments of love, you're less dependent on anyone to bring you happiness.
You're okay, you can love the person for their flaws because you can see a part of yourself
you used to be that you no longer are and And instead of judgment, you have compassion. And you can encourage and communicate
from a level of connection instead of intimidation
or competition or however relationships work.
So I do think that it's energy and vibration.
And I think that in our community,
at least people who have relationships
that are built from our community tend to be more long-lasting because they're more self-aware.
And so there's no blame.
There's no excuses.
There's no make wrong.
There's no competition.
There's none of that.
There is just, this is who I am.
And I think that the ultimate goal is when you reach the point in your life when how you appear to the world is who you really are.
That level of transparency is, it takes no effort.
You can be yourself and you know, people say to me, wow, you're pretty approachable.
And I say, well God, I work so hard every day on overcoming myself in the morning, overcoming
my ego.
Why would I want to build it up the next day because I've got to face that guy again tomorrow
morning. So why not just keep, you know, you know, taking those edges and smoothing them down so that
so that you're, you're less unconscious to all of those programs that are built in relationships.
What do you think is going to be your biggest challenge over the next decade?
Wow. As we get into 2020, into 2030, what'll be your biggest personal challenge
in the next 10 years? We are like a living organism. I mean, the company is just, our
community is growing so large. I think our biggest challenge right now is finding venues
and the logistics to be able to go to the next level of being able to do it on a larger scale without
losing the efficacy, but without the intimacy, the action.
Yeah, I mean, we've done really great, Lewis, as a culture in responding to the world's
needs and I mean, we hit challenges all the time.
And I was just telling my staff in a meeting, look, we just can't keep doing things the same way.
You can't ever do that again.
It's just, it's not a time that doing things the same way doesn't work.
So you've got to be able to grow.
You've got to be able to learn.
You've got to be able to stay contemporary with all the new technology and everything else.
And you've got to keep bringing on a bigger team.
I mean, I am nothing.
I am nothing without my team, honestly.
I mean, between my staff and my team leaders and our volunteers and the way we do things, it's a living organism.
Everybody counts. And for me, when I have a group of people where everybody leads, you know, you see
those school of fish or the flock of birds all moving together. You study that phenomenon. You
think that there's some leader that everybody's following. Turns out there is no leader. Everybody's
leading. It's a bottom-up phenomenon. So you get a really greased team that really is heart-centered,
that really has the intent for the greatest good.
And it's not about them. It's about how they co-lead. And I think that helps me do one thing
really well, and that is to focus on the people in the audience instead of everything else. So
we've been growing, I think, for the last 15 years or more and I think just our biggest
challenge is to be able to handle that growth I mean we get I was just talking
to my team they were we get over seven eight thousand emails a month I mean
mmm well people with a lot of health conditions a lot of questions and support
and one support and so we're building infrastructure you know we're building
online ways to get people engaged and and to be able to for me to provide resources for people
yeah so we're I think the biggest challenge would just is if I could I'm gonna stay healthy but
aside from staying healthy is is just being able to handle the growth. Yeah. How old are you now?
57.
My body's 57.
Your mind is what?
Like a 12-year-old child?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's 112 at the same time.
Who knows, right?
57, man.
I hope I look like that at 57.
What do you think the world's humanities challenge
will be over the next decade as we enter 2020?
Back to the principle, Lewis,
of just different paradigms beginning to collapse.
Economically, politically, socially,
environmentally, religiously, education, journalism,
medicine, they have to move into chaos.
And chaos is just unpredictable.
Because they're not working.
Yeah, exactly.
But now here's the challenge for humanity.
You have one of two ways to embrace the breakdown of those paradigms.
You can face them with anger and hostility and fear,
and you are only contributing to more of it. We have to see that those breakdowns are essential for something greater to happen.
Now, we can't wait for governments to take care of us. We can't wait for medicine to give us a drug that's going to heal us from a condition.
The truth is, with a greater level of consciousness, the change in awareness because of information,
the greatest challenge we have as those paradigms break down is to no longer emotionally react
in the same way and be victims. You can't say, this president, this person, this whatever,
is actually making me feel this way and think this way.
Basically, you're in the program that something outside of you
is controlling you, how you feel and how you think.
So then to self-regulate then is to say,
how I think and feel is going to change my outer environment.
So then we're all faced with great opportunities
brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. And we are at that point, at that nexus point in
our evolution as a species. So then you don't try to fix that. That's never going to work. What you
do is you create something better. And then everybody just naturally just leaves that and goes here
now it used to be some people would just come here and the majority would stay
here because they're clinging to what they've been programmed or believe in
but now because of information everybody's like that's not gonna work I
already know it's not gonna work and I don't care what anybody says, this is working for me.
So people are moving to new applications, to new paradigms because it's working for
them.
So as long as we don't emotionally react to the breakdown that's happening currently in
the world and chaos is just unpredictable order, you know, as things move towards disorder, the novelty that's
being created is literally chaos.
Because the known and everything staying the same is order.
But as you step out into that unknown, you're having the chaos is unpredictable order being
expressed through novelty.
And we have to be able to learn how to take that disorder
and with the application of brain and heart coherence, create more order.
So you can't just say, hey, I'm standing up for peace
and being miserable with your coworker.
You don't get to talk about peace.
And so you're the living prayer of peace, not just,
we know crime rates go down and violence goes down
when there's peace projects in communities
where there's meditation on peace.
But when those peace gathering projects end,
you know, you see that crime and violence and everything
returns back to the same level.
So it's not enough to just think it. We got to demonstrate it. So if I'm demonstrating peace and you're demonstrating
peace, somebody else because of mirror neurons is going to go, wow, that person's unpredictable.
Wow, they're different. It's given me permission to do the same. So I think that ultimately moving
into that state of being, you know, as human beings and creating unity that, you know,
you keep watching so many programs on television that talk you into prejudice, that talk you into
separation, that talk you into fear, that talk you into violence, that talk you into war,
deceit, negativity. You're not going to trust anybody. In fact, you're going to see difference
between you and me or anybody because that's what separation does.
But when your heart's centered and you feel connected, you don't see the person any longer, right?
You see something transcendent.
You see an essence, right?
And that kind of emergence of a new consciousness that's less dependent on all of those outer things is really difficult to control.
And if you want to control a community, control their emotions and control them in survival.
When you overcome your emotions, you can see the hidden meaning behind all things.
And when everybody's looking this way, you may be looking that way because you understand, you've just overcome your fear you've just overcome your hostility and anger you've overcome the program of whatever it is i swear to you you're going to be able to connect people and
that that then is the hope of the future that's why i'm that's why i'm hopeful of the future
because i think that all of this that's happening in a world right now where more things are happening in a shorter amount of time.
I mean, if you're alive in this world and you haven't been experiencing the quickening, I mean, you know, I said to someone the other day, the day where you end your day and feel complete because you finished all your work, you'll never have that.
There's always more emails and more things to check, right?
So the demand has pressed us into this crazy realm of multitasking.
And I think that you start shifting.
Where you place your attention is where you place your energy.
So if you're shifting your attention all over the board,
your energy is scattered.
So then when you start disconnecting from everybody, your boss, your co-worker, you know, the news, your cell phone, your computer, and you start going this way, I think it's into the present moment.
Then if where you place your attention is where you place your energy and you're truly in the present moment, you've got a lot of energy to execute.
You've got a lot of energy to use.
You want to be able to do that eyes open.
The more scattered your energy, the less you have to focus on pushing one thing forward.
That's why people's dreams don't happen because there's no... Look, if you keep
putting your attention on some future experience that you are imagining with your mind, your
body's going to follow your mind right there because that's where your energy is.
But if you're putting your attention on everything known in your life, the shower, the coffee
maker, the toilet, your body is following your mind every day to the known.
But we want your body to follow your mind to the unknown.
Enough people get to doing that and you could do better in creating things in your life that we see this
wealthy people in our work that have focused on wealth some of them living in the back seat of
their car some of them bankrupt that now have multi-million dollar companies what do you think
they want to do with that money they want to give it away yeah give it back let me tell you why
not because of any other reason is that they now know that they can create more.
Well, why? If you're abundant, why? Abundance to me has changed. Abundance means I have more than I need.
Like way more than I need. So if I have way more than I need and I know how to create it, then take it.
I'll create more of it. So now you're no longer holding on in scarcity. You're making a difference. difference so wealthy people that have created a lot of wealth in this work
They want to give back they want to make a difference and I think that that's how we're innately wired
I think we're all innately wired to care for one another to make a difference in the living organism our living organism our community
We heal one another that's what we do right we inform one another we encourage one another we support one another
Right. We inform one another we encourage one another we support one another
We shine for one another not to outshine another person to shine to show them if they can shine and that's that to me is
Super healthy so then I'm I'm
Applauding your success because I want you to succeed because you're telling me that if you can do it I can do it so So there's no longer any separation. I think
That's hopeful for the world. Then you start celebrating diversity.
Then you're like, wow, you're way different than me. I want to study you because I want to bring
that into who I'm becoming. You create a strong community that way. That's powerful.
Where can we connect with you and learn more? My website is just drjoethespens.com. I think
that's a good place to start. You're doing more on social media finally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just good?
Yeah, yeah.
You're putting out content out there.
So we can follow you there.
We can go to your events.
You do them once a month somewhere.
Yeah.
No, we do week-long events.
Our week-long events have just been my passion.
I've outgrown keynote presentations and conferences.
I want to be with doers. I don't want to talk
about history. I want to make history. That's me. So we do a week-long event once a month
just about. And for people to come to a week-long, they have to do the online progressive, which
is a weekend course that they can do it in nine weeks or they can sit down and watch
it in one week. It doesn't matter
to me, but that's the preparation.
Yeah, to come.
The practice. You've got to get on the skis and you've got to go down a few times
before we start skiing, right? So we've stopped doing the progressives just because
there's just not enough time for me to do them any longer. So we'd offer them as an
online course and then we have the week longs. But I'm still doing conferences here and there around the world.
But yeah, my passion is the week longs.
You've got books.
Do you have an app yet that teaches the meditations as well?
You know, they're working on this great app right now.
In fact, I have a meeting today when I drive back to Santa Barbara
on this app that we're creating because we have a great app
that keeps everybody connected when they're in events,
but we want to have all the meditations on there.
We want to have all the things that we do there.
Yeah, okay.
So that'll be in the future.
Yeah, that's not too far away.
Before the end of the year.
Okay, cool.
Well, you shared your three truths
in the last interview,
but I have a question for you
that I want to ask you,
and that is,
if you had your final workshop one day, and this was going to be the last interview but I have a question for you that I want to ask you and that is if you had your final workshop one day and this was
gonna be the last workshop you ever gave in front of as many people as you wanted
it to be just imagine any type of workshop you're gonna give it could be
in front of millions of people in front of you and it was your final 60 seconds
after this week long or three three-week-long workshop,
whatever you want it to be, but you had your final 60 seconds before everyone had to leave.
And this was the last workshop you would ever give.
What would you share and deliver in the final 60 seconds?
Jeez, Louis, let me think about that.
No pressure.
Since you're so connected to your future dreams.
I would probably say that I've done my absolute best
in disseminating information
to prove to people how powerful they really are.
And I think when we become the living example of truth,
when we actually embody this,
that there are no limits to what we can do. when we become the living example of truth, when we actually embody this,
that there are no limits to what we can do. And I'm hopeful with human beings
that we have this capacity.
And of course, when we believe in ourselves,
we believe in possibility.
And when we believe in possibilities,
we believe in ourselves.
And I think that is the ultimate belief. Yeah, that's strong
It's a good finish and drop the mic white off walk the stage
Why knowledge you dr. Joe for for constantly showing up?
You've been doing the work for almost two decades and obviously working on yourself for longer
But for constantly showing up with your mission with your heart to serve all of us, to give us tools, clarity, peace,
so that we can bring our hearts to the world and our gifts to the world and manifest what
we ultimately want, which is more love, more peace, more harmony, and all these things.
So I acknowledge you for constantly showing up.
I thank you for coming on.
You're the man.
I got to come to one of your events soon.
You're invited, bro.
I will be there front row.
You're invited.
I'll make it easy for you.
Crying, doing it all. So thank you for coming on. Yeah. Thanks for this. Thanks for all you do also.
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