The School of Greatness - Do THIS To Manifest Wealth & Abundance w/ Kyle Cease EP 1399
Episode Date: February 25, 2023https://lewishowes.com/mindset - Order a copy of my new book The Greatness Mindset today!Kyle Cease is a New York Times best-selling author with two #1 Comedy Central specials to his credit. He has b...een a guest speaker at thousands of colleges, summits, and Fortune 500 conferences and has made over 100 TV and movie appearances. Kyle teaches that most of our “triggers” are fears we have based on old stories. Once we dig deep to figure out where those are rooted, we can stop letting them control us.In this episode you will learn, How to operate with a receiving vibration.How to avoid ending up in a codependent relationship.How meditation transforms the old story.An exercise to get rid of fear.The purpose of triggers.Why you should be careful about the way you talk about money.Plus much more…For more, go to lewishowes.com/1399Inky Johnson On How To Hack Your Mindset To Overcome Life’s Challenges: https://link.chtbl.com/1279-podEd Mylett on Developing Superhuman Levels of Self-Confidence: https://link.chtbl.com/1274-podEmmanuel Acho On Overcoming The Fear Of Failure & Living A Life Without Limits: https://link.chtbl.com/1245-pod
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Most of the people I meet that really want to make money often have a major fear of not
having it, which is weird because energetically you're putting out to the world, I'm scared
of not having it much more than I wanted.
Yeah.
Right?
Because I find that this is a weird thing to say, but when you really want something, you're not ready for it.
You're not in the alignment for it.
So true.
Right?
Like, let's say you're someone who believes who you are is someone who makes $20,000 a year.
Like, that's in your story.
You grew up that way.
You heard sentences like money
doesn't grow on trees or it's the root of all evil. So you have these deep-rooted beliefs that
you're evil, right, if you do this. So you have this thing going and then that also is what drives
you bizarrely. Like you're scared of that, right? So I work with so many people and if someone offers
that person a million dollars, that's death to the story of who they are. So weirdly you're going to be in this position where you want to take it but
you're scared of it, right? Because it's death to who you are. This is a reason I believe lottery
winners go broke. Yeah. Right? So the book I wrote is called The Illusion of Money, Why Chasing Money
is Stopping You from Receiving It. Chasing money has a very different vibration than receiving
it. When you chase something, you're saying, this is what I can see that I want. And if you can see
what you want, usually it's through the eyes of the ego because there's so much stuff you can't
see. So you're sitting here looking through this tunnel. This is what I want. I can see it's that
one person. That's the love of my life. I'm sure that's my soulmate.
Meanwhile, you haven't met almost everybody, right?
It's that much money.
It's that stuff.
You can feel this needy vibration.
And I've worked with so many people who say, dude, I don't know what it is.
I keep working my off.
I keep trying to make money and I can barely pay rent.
And I thought, what if I've got no time?
I've got no energy.
I've got responsibilities, all these things.
And what if those are the reasons you aren't making any money?
What if you're working your ass off is actually why you can't make money?
And what if instead of working on getting money, you work on you and changing your vibration
to leave the story that who I am is $20,000 a year, to leave the story that who I am is
what my parents say.
So if you go to a receiving vibration, the first thing you do is receive what's here. Like it sounds corny, but we
usually don't pay attention to what's here right now. Right now, you and I are here. Everything we
think our story is, our accomplishments, our problems are BS. We're just this moment. And
everyone watching this, if you really understand the highest truth of what's
going on, we're all even. There's no, this person is better or less, and there's none of that.
We're just this space that's here, right? Now, from here, you have sky's the limit possibilities.
But if it goes through the lens of who I am as this past story, this limitation, this person
that tried to achieve it and failed, is someone who gets love by failing over and over, is someone who has to stay small.
Significance by failing, right?
Right.
Because people start to say, oh, you're going to be okay.
I'm going to help you.
I'm going to give you more time or money or attention because you're not succeeding, right?
Right.
You get all this.
Exactly.
People give you handouts or support you when you're failing.
Yeah, you get a lot of love when you're failing.
Significance. There's a lot of people that will failing. Yeah, you get a lot of love when you're failing. Significance.
There's a lot of people that will connect to you.
There's a lot of people.
And so we're going, if I become something, I won't get that sense of connection that felt like my mom.
Right.
That connection that I get with my friends or that person that I dated that actually weirdly feels familiar to my childhood that I now associate this as love.
Meanwhile, the truth of you is this space right here. This
sounds really weird, but this space right here contains all kinds of ideas. It's almost like
we're an antenna and we can pick this space up and just sit and receive, first of all,
the idea that we're enough. Like what if there is no purpose to chase and you are purpose just by existing
what if you can't get out of purpose what if that's not a thing to chase so that's the first
thing just say okay i'm in purpose yeah you are purpose and then that the first thing that happens
is that scares the part of you that says no like I'm sure people watching this right now would go, oh, he doesn't know my story.
Yeah, but that's your story, which is past.
So it's fictional because there's no such thing as the past.
So everything about you that you perceive about yourself based on past evidence is everything.
Everything, your family history, everything.
It matters and it needs to be seen and loved and
honored. We don't repress it. But you're the space right here that contains infinite possibilities
and the space for that past. So when you realize that you're just this moment right here, and then
do the actual work of connecting to it. See, most of us connect to the stories and connect to
everyone's addictions online and connect to the problems. But what if
you actually pay attention to this? Like, I spent two years, two hours a day listening to silence.
All my old stories show up. They're like, oh my God, I can't just meditate for two hours. This
is crazy. And then they leave. And I'm just here. And then there's this silence that you hear.
And then they leave.
And I'm just here.
And then there's this silence that you hear.
And after the silence is showing up, eventually it holds space for billion-dollar ideas, like crazy possibilities.
And the part of you that thinks, I would never be able to do that because my parents said this, is gone.
So it's very easy to receive those ideas.
So to me, what I find is that the more I can see what I want, the more it's looking through the egoic lens. And when I just go, I don't have any idea what I want. I'm just going
to move moment to moment, doing what I perceive as the highest vibration thing that connects me
to the space for real. Then you can hear this one and it'll just give you one step, right? It just gives you,
go for a walk. That's a leap because usually we're like, yeah, but I need to look at my phone
400 times, right? That's your old story that says every yeah, but is an old story. Every I can't
because is an old story. It's not including the possibilities of different frequencies that are
trying to reach you right here. You're looking through the lens of your limitation, right? So
we can see it in little doses when you have those first moments show up that go,
what if you started a band or moved to Italy right now? And then you immediately access something in
you that made you able to hear that
but it's bigger than the story of what you think you are so you immediately have to come up with a
why that would be ridiculous to explain why you're ignoring your body so a rule that i have is every
time i'm justifying anything i know it's not my highest calling like that friend treated me like
crap that one time but they were really nice before if i'm doing that i'm coming with a reason to explain why i'm ignoring my heart
justifying it yeah so like why you hear women who are in relationships or men i guess but you hear
a lot of women who say you know well he emotionally abuses me physically abuses me but he's there for me sometimes when I need him or something.
There's a but, right?
But he's a good person inside.
He's just messed up or whatever it is.
Right.
So that to me right there is the difference between a calling because a calling you don't justify.
Like I have a two-year-old daughter and I never say, well, she gets good medical insurance.
That's why I keep her.
You know why I do this for a living.
There's just no explanation for it.
But we all know what it's like to have a job and be like, eventually they're going to promote me.
What do you do?
You're explaining why you're ignoring your body.
And your body contains all the next steps.
And when you do something that doesn't move you from the highest
you, you cut off the higher level of ideas, the impact on the world, the connection to the moment,
and you're saying out loud, I'm this old story. So you stay in the boundaries of the old story by
staying in that stagnant story, that stagnant relationship, that stagnant job, the place you
don't want to live anymore.
So I've been working with people a lot and watching them have these moments where they go,
well, I'd like to live here, but, and I go, let's go. Right? I want to do this. Let's go. We don't know what's coming here. You're only scared. And I think I said this on your other
podcast, but you're only scared because you can measure what you will lose. You can't see what you'll gain.
Game changer.
And the thing I always think of is imagine
if Michael Jordan or Michael Jackson or Oprah
had enough justification to stay in a mediocre job
in like 1981, right?
So here's Michael Jackson and he works
as a manager at Applebee's, right?
And you're sitting here seeing this talent in him
and you're trying to tell him,
dude, you should do other stuff.
He's wearing like one oven mitt.
Why do I want one oven mitt?
And you're like, you should do,
I can feel an artist here.
And he's like, I'd love to, but I gotta make money.
Applebee's is gonna promote me.
And you're like, dude, you're gonna make money.
I swear to God, there's millions in this.
And he's like, I know, I hear your fantasy. That's really cute. I get it, I get I could be magical but I'm
realistic and they call that realistic. That's not realistic. You know how many times people
go to my events and go, dude, that's great Kyle but I gotta live in the real world and I go,
what's the real world? And you know what it is? It's when they sit at home and come up with all the ways that it's going to go wrong,
which is actually delusion and fantasy and fear. That's not the real world. What's real right now?
Both our hearts are beating. There's a space here. This is the only thing real. The people watching,
here. This is the only thing real. The people watching, you're breathing, this is the only thing true. And we call this airy-fairy and stressing all day and
worrying about all the crap the news hand-selected to make you freak out is
called the real world. Do you know how not scary the world actually is? Like if
you go outside it's not just horror
and what it looks like on the news.
That's real, right?
There's a lot of buildings not on fire today
that the news isn't focused on, right?
You can just drive down the street.
There's a lot of people
that aren't being shot at today.
Right.
There's a lot of families
that went to bed safe
and woke up in the morning
and no one cares because we go,
this dark world is the only world.
And I'm not saying that's not there.
That's there and needs to be honored.
But in saying that's the world,
we're denying everything that's right in front of us,
including the space that has all the information,
the source, whatever you want to call it.
Some people call it God.
Some people call it the universe.
You can call it your intuition. I don't care if you're atheist or
Christian or whatever. This moment we all have, this is true. This is true. And then we never pay
attention to it. We're crazy. And when you start meditating and listening to the silence,
you see all these people that are just running themselves and you just see it like this crazy
illness. And then you're sitting here with all
these insights. What if I create that? Boom, million dollar idea, this thing, this thing.
And you're so fulfilled by the calling that when you do create money, you don't blow it on a bunch
of addictions, which you only have because you're so out of alignment with yourself.
The only reason we have addictions is because we aren't connected to
ourself, right? So here's all these people that are drinking and overeating and then have to spend
more money at the hospitals because they're overeating, out of alignment. And then they go
to a job that they hate, spend eight hours hating it, go home, hate that, watch Netflix all day,
and then overeat, go through the addictions again, buy the most expensive car to try to get laid.
Right.
To be fulfilled, to have self-worth.
Yeah.
And then here you actually are.
If you connect to this moment, the real, not to be a cliche, but the internet.
Yes.
Because I'm sure Beckwith said before or something.
The internet.
Right.
This is real.
You know?
And so what this book is about is and this is the gala this
is just the proof i promise the copy you'll get is a professional one yes but the the book is about
we are so focused on making money almost every thought we have is yeah but i gotta get rent
paid next month i gotta and and we're sacrificing our soul for it and my question is if we're instead of throwing
away our soul for the guarantee of the illusion of money or illusion of safety right and yeah a
lot of people believe money equals safety yet I can think of people that were broke then made
millions of dollars and thought what if I lose it so they didn't feel safe or freedom what if I lose it? So they didn't feel safe. Or freedom, what if I lose this?
So you're under the illusion that freedom is outside of you.
Just by saying money equals freedom, you're implying you're not freedom.
Or you need to have something to have freedom. Something external.
So what's the real truth? In my eyes, you're just freedom freedom but you've created an unnecessary route to get to
what you are so you said finally when i see a million dollars so you cut off the freedom that
you are or when i finally fall in love you cut it all off and then when i get it now i can feel
i can give myself permission to feel the thing that i could have felt in the first place the
whole time the whole 10-year journey it took to get there or whatever it was. I put my own connection to source, myself, whatever on the other end of
this achievement. Now, my question is what if you reverse that? What if you just start feeling the
freedom that you are? What if you start feeling in love, right? What if you start feeling the
feeling because that actually is your natural state? I think Eckhart Tolle once said,
falling in love is the real you because it's the absence
of you wanting something. It's the absence of you thinking something will make you happy,
right? You finally have a moment where you don't think you need something to be happy.
So, your giddiness has nothing to do with the person. It has to do with that you finally
decided you're enough. You love yourself. Right. because every time we control anyone or control anything or control any scenario we're scared to have a scenario that we
unconsciously we don't understand is in our body right just be a monk in the in
the woods and the mountains and well one thing that there was a huge change is
realizing there's no competition and everyone in my life I want them to
succeed yeah that makes me really powerful that's been something that's been huge for me over the last i would say like four years because my whole life as an
athlete was i need to win and second place means i'm not lovable right so here second third like
last place to a parent to what did your dad teach you that or something no i just think like
no one taught me that like they were, my parents were very supportive. Like they wanted us to compete, but they weren't like, you suck if you're second.
They were like the most loving. Did you experience some trauma in your past when you were second or
see someone make fun of something? I was just always made fun of. Right. And so I was like,
I'm going to prove everyone wrong. Right. And I'm going to be the best so they can't laugh at me
anymore. I was picked last on a team actually when I was in fourth grade.
I was picked last in school.
Our class did a dodgeball for recess.
Yeah.
We played a game and there was two captains in the class
and they picked all the boys first and then they picked all the girls second
and then they picked me last.
Wow.
I remember being like, never again will I be picked last. Right. So do you
see even though it was successful and killed it and you did amazing that still
fear of feeling something is your driver. Now I'm a huge fan of that and
there's a higher even still. Of course. Right because if our driver is to not be
bullied again in junior high that's nice like, what happens if you just go up?
You know, like you don't have to create a...
So ego does that.
Ego creates a sabotage and then it overcomes the sabotage it created.
And I believe in this year and next year, I believe that consciousness is expanding
to a level where these things can't not be seen.
It's almost like our consciousness is bigger so it's like
looking and rooting around in our bodies and okay like what you just described like becoming number
one to not feel that, I believe that was at one point the collective highest consciousness in
like the 80s, 90s, right? We didn't look at our deepest darkest things. Maybe even right now it
is with current politics, who knows? And so the old movement, and this is kind of what the book's about, is the old way
kind of shows like, you know, in the 80s, it was this thing to like have nine Lamborghinis and
everything was about hype and, you know, get the Ginsu steak. And then the secret came and it said,
focus on what you do want positivity, right? What I believe is the consciousness is bigger now.
And instead of only focusing on what you want, I really believe the amount of what you can get
is based solely on how much you can accept the opposite. So in other words...
Accept the opposite of what?
So let's say you really want to be rich. It's based on how willing you are to be poor.
Wow.
If you want the ultimate relationship, it's based on how willing you are to be alone.
If you can love being alone, you'll cry out your codependency, you'll cry out the old story, and then you create a space for that.
But if everyone is ambitiously just trying to date, there are going to be two attachments that are stopping each other from their inner truth, so it won't last.
And it goes all the way to you want the best life?
Totally accept death.
Wow.
To have the greatest life in the world, be completely and fully accepting of death.
And the more you go, I'm fine with death, the more you feel free, right?
It's weird because what we have now is a world of people who are really trying to put a million
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Because the weirdly, the more you live your life fully,
the less fear you have of death.
You're not obsessing over like every lock
and booby trap in your house
and security systems or whatever.
I'm not saying you shouldn't have security systems, but yeah. But what if, ironically, that's what's like, if you,
what I find is the more you live and you accept your darkness, like your strength is based on
how much you accept what you call your darkness, right? So I'm sitting here and I meditate and in
the meditation, light and dark show up at the same time. And who am I if I'm looking at both? So, I'm sitting here holding space for light and darkness. So, I'm now the
space that can carry both. Usually, we're avoiding our darkness. So, we just have this capacity,
just positivity, no negativity. But I'm like, what if we got this, right? So, you're sitting
here and the more you accept your darkness, the more people aren't going to screw with you because they're scared of theirs. The people that we perceive as some of the most
dangerous, manipulative, narcissistic people are actually, ironically, horrified of their own
darkness, right? So, when you're shining a light and you're fine with all your truth and you're
fine with everything, that scares the out of the manipulators. So you start to get divinely protected the more you open your heart. See, most people think, I'm scared I'll get hurt,
so they close their hearts off. And ironically, they close their hearts off to the most loving
people in the moment right now. But what they actually attract are other people with closed
hearts. So a people pleaser's got their heart closed, and they only attract takers.
Wow.
Right? If you're a people pleaser, you're scared closed and they only attract takers. Wow. Right?
If you're a people pleaser, you're scared, you don't want to hurt someone's feelings,
the takers see right through that. They take everything from you. Right. Constantly.
Because that's the match to what you're being. Wow. So if you open your heart, you're like,
I'm scared I'll get hurt. Actually, you're getting hurt because you're not opening it.
Right? So life is trying to give us a ton a ton of but we've never seen what life's like when we're not constantly scared of our own darkness and
achieving to avoid it when you just sit there and love yourself and i don't mean like confess
everything to the world like we think so that means make a million videos and tell the world
it's like i'm talking vulnerable every moment every yeah yeah so you're like doing that and
now that's your addiction like look everybody i'm will you. Be vulnerable every moment. Yeah. So you're like doing that and now that's your addiction.
Like, look, everybody.
Will you get validated from that?
Yeah.
I've seen that story too.
I'm talking you working through your stuff and the biggest power you have is your own forgiveness.
Not for any reason other than to free you in that.
You know, and then just completely forgiveness of others.
It's so key.
Forgiveness is everything.
and then just completely forgiveness of others.
It's so key.
Forgiveness is everything.
And it's so funny because as this book is about money,
it's like you can see how much more abundance would you have,
how many different types of jobs or entrepreneurial things would you create from that space.
So as much as it's a book about money, it's a book about you,
but I believe that's the highest way to money.
So there's going to be people like a book about money.
And then you read this.
What's this?
Harry Ferry.
It's like you will not make money just from a bunch of strategies anymore.
Just hearing manipulative tactics.
Well, you could make money, but it's not going to fulfill you the money you're making.
Right.
And you're going to lose it or you're going to be a prisoner to it.
But it's also now not sustainable because those are you know we can
see through such now that you the more you sell from manipulation the the only one type of person
that can't see that is going to get it and you're going to get a bunch of refunds because it wasn't
your heart what's going to make money is authenticity the universe working through you
doing something that's in contribution to the world for real, right? I have a rule that everything I do has to be a win-win-win, and I'll explain that.
A win is abundance for me and a fulfillment from doing it. The second win is are they fulfilled,
abundant, and more conscious? And third, is the world better because of it? So when I look at a
soda company, that's a win-lose-lose. It's a win
because you make money, lose because they're rotting their teeth and getting diabetes, and a
loss because you're throwing plastic in the ocean. So that paradigm is going to fall because all
three wins are inside of you. So if you're a win-lose-lose, you're two-thirds self-hate because
it's in you. You get what I'm saying of course so win win win has to be
happening so it's do does the consciousness of the world expand it's ironic because things that
have been seen as like airy fairy or snake oil or whatever are actually the most legitimate
meanwhile soda and other crap is credible companies Incredible companies, like top 500 companies in the world.
Oh, wow.
You're an amazing company.
Thanks for selling such a legitimate addiction to the world, tooth-rotting, crazy, horrible
vibration-lowering.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
That's okay?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I get it, man.
That's the cult.
My challenge is, I'm like, gosh, I love pizza and ice cream so much.
And like, when I was like younger, I was like, it'd be so cool to have like a pizza shop, an ice cream like store.
But I'm like, God, that would just be hurting people.
Right.
So I need to reinvent like what pizza looks like.
So it's healthy and reinvent ice cream.
So it's healthier.
And it's also possible the reason you like ice cream and pizza not that it's not awesome is because
you liked it as a kid absolutely it brought me joy yeah when i was a kid we had a place and we
still do in washington called taco time and it was like a sounds really good like like a amazing
version of taco bell like but i used to go there with my mom yeah so it made you feel a certain
way so i don't like taco time as much as i like connection with my mom interesting
right so when i stopped going to taco time i like cried for some reason i was like why
and but i'm crying my mom out i'm crying my story out yeah i used to in delaware ohio there was like
a like a ice cream stand i can't remember what it's called something depot but it was
they had like this smurfs ice cream and my dad and i would always get it after like a
t-ball baseball game and always make me feel connected to him i get that and then like i
often unconsciously want to do that with my daughter too like i want to do the pattern with
her like i i learned music from my parents right i'm a musician in certain ways and and love but i still love like hollanotes huey lewis like
fans they liked and took me to yeah because i love their i do love the music but i also really
love the connection that i perceive i'm getting but the more you do the work the more you see
how crazy that is the more it's a story you're like i just want to feel my dad loves me so i'm
gonna play this huey Lewis album.
It's a good album. Recreate that feeling.
Yeah.
But isn't that interesting?
Like, when we start to, once we become aware of that, once we hit the awareness of that,
then it becomes insanity to keep doing it, right?
So once you see, wow, this is one of the stuff things meditation brings up.
I can see the pattern that's chasing that thing so I can get a good job from my dad.
Or doesn't want to be abandoned again by my mom.
Or doesn't want to be last in sports.
Or doesn't.
That's.
Be laughed at or made fun of or whatever it is.
Right.
Rejected.
I'm scared of the trauma I felt.
So I'm going to do it again.
Well, imagine if the other option is we see and hold a space for the trauma and you now
could be the parent that you always wanted.
You now could be the parent for the inner child that didn't feel safe in the past.
That's what I do.
It's like whatever it feels.
It goes, I feel unseen.
I sit there and go, instead of me going, well, let's get you seen.
That's the 80s response.
We tell a joke.
Yeah.
People laugh at me
and yeah whatever i tell the inner child like imagine you're meditating it goes i feel unseen
i feel unloved and you think it's because of outside but take off the reason i just feel
unseen i feel unloved then you close your eyes and you're saying to it instead of fixing it or
getting it loved say you're allowed to be unloved in my body i'm going to let i'm going to be the first
place that lets it's fine if you're unloved in my body then you feel this five-year-old you for real
like dance around your body because it's finally seen because usually when you feel unseen you
chase being seen to fix it and keep not seeing it it wants to be seen by you. Wow. Not the girl. Not our parents.
Not the world or social media.
It wants to be seen by you.
So every time you chase being seen, it's feeling ignored by you.
So our job is to become a space to see it.
And the second you go, I feel unseen, and it's okay.
You can feel unseen in my body.
It will move through your body.
It will go chest, overarm, whatever.
And the more you go, you do it. you're almost loving it as it does that it'll start breaking into pieces
and it'll come out your eyes now people goes that's great but how do you make money if you
if if you are fully on the highest vibration do you understand how much more valuable you are
than money and and how much more remember
buddhist monks there's millionaire achievers that go to buddhist monks all the time the reverse
never happens there's no buddhist monks going how do i get the i need to make millions yeah
why is that because the highest thing we have the number one asset we have is our connection to
ourself this then most of us think it's it's money so we make that the highest vibration but it's not inner peace it's inner peace it's this moment
and you have that available and we over you know the best things in life are free is a very cliche
sentence but it's true and that's true but also we only pay attention to what we invest in
financially so we overlook meditating here but if we could to meditate, we'd all of a sudden do it.
So we have to understand that what is free for real
will bring in everything else that you want.
I have a rule too with money that you might think is cool.
This is a thing that I want to offer people.
If you're trying to figure out how to create a space for money,
I offer people to think about how they think about money,
like think about how unconsciously you think about it. Like you're never enough, you're the
root of all evil, whatever. Now picture that you're money on a date with you. And if you're
on a date with a person who says you're never enough, you're the root of all evil, you'd never
want to be there, right? Well, money doesn't want to be in the vibration you reject that person judging yeah yeah you reject that person so yeah
you're rejecting money right and you think that yeah yeah i'm going to how else do we say i'm
going to use you to get someone to like me i'm going to this is how money is seen so how could
money show up if that's how you see it because you wouldn't stay with someone on a date that said you're never enough you're the you're the root of all evil right it's like okay so how would you like to
be seen on a date you'd like to be seen as i love you no matter what no matter if you're small or
big if you're off or on if you're feeling like i love you all the way and if you can look at your
debt or or have one dollar in the bank and go i love you
now you're creating a vibrational space for it to show up because you're safe because your focus
isn't on money and how it needs to change you're much better off because you're on how you're going
to change and when you start changing like we just did and looking at these things and not needing to overcome as much as loving it, now you're
focused on the thing that actually creates the money.
Remember, every dollar you've ever made came from you.
So don't get excited about money.
Get excited about you.
Right?
Zing.
Like if I went on a hike with you, we get lost in the woods.
I run a corner.
I'm not with you.
And we find a waterfall.
I find it.
You don't see it
i fill a cup up with water and i come back and i say to you dude a cup of water what am i not
showing you yeah i'm showing you the small thing yeah not the waterfall not where it came from the
source the source of the water is the much more important thing so none of us look at the source of where our money
came from we look at the money so you're sitting you're dwelling not you but people that we were
dwelling on the cup of water yeah not us being the source of creating more every dollar you've
ever made came from you get excited about you start the focus on what you are not what money will give you and I you know
your energy is going to attract or repel more wealth a lot of you know a mentor
of mine said I was at a salsa club learning how to salsa dance terrified
out of my mind I saw a guy who was amazing who was a public speaker he
actually got me into public speaking and And he said, the world makes room for passionate people. I think
money is attractive to passionate people as well because people are passionate about life. They
bring an energy. They bring a richness, a fullness, a richness, and they attract riches.
Whether it be through the community or the art they're creating or the business they're creating yes and you're going to start to attract especially in this time because i know
there's people watching this go well what do you say about all the greedy billionaires and blah blah
blah and what i say is that's the old consciousness yeah that there in fact we see through it and it's
starting to crumble so the old way of doing things selfish was a conscious shift because i believe in
like the 50s everyone was just like a factory worker working for.
And then it was like this breakaway where an entrepreneurial boom happened.
So taking your focus off of the old story and moving into what you are and learning how your thinking changes things was the highest consciousness we understood at the time.
So at that time that created this old consciousness of
your focus you know changes it so you think positive whatever and that created it and then
we we keep going and take a good thing too far and then all of a sudden it's this billionaire thing
you can feel the the most controlling mindsets crumbling you can feel the suicides from the
people that have made lots of money but see that it's not the answer.
You can feel the people that are controlling other people.
All the control, as the control fell in you during this interview, as you said goodbye to the old story and kind of loved it, all control in the world is starting to fall.
And the old structures aren't working.
world is starting to fall and the old structures aren't working and what will work in the new century and the new future is the birth of this consciousness this consciousness following your
heart you will not be able to make money just from massive achievement it won't work it i'm telling
you it's going to be we see through it the consciousness sees sees through it. It's too small.
When there's going to be a major influx of Martin Luther Kings, Mr. Rogers, Oprahs, Wayne Dyers, it's coming.
Yeah.
Because we're so repressed that our hearts are going to springboard like the Renaissance and there's going to be, you know what I'm saying?
That's true.
You mentioned this a couple of times and it reminded me of another mentor of mine, Chris Hawker. I was working as an intern for him for about six months when I was on my sister's couch, broke, no money.
My dad had just gotten into a car accident that left him in a coma for three months, and he was kind of my safety net.
He was my financial stability where he would support me financially on things.
And he always said, you know, when you're done like living your dream and chasing your football career, whatever it is, you can only come work for me.
Wow.
He had an insurance company, life insurance.
And I did the whole like insurance internship and did the testing.
And I almost failed three times on like getting my whatever it is like the series something whatever the life insurance test that I had to pass so I
could sell life insurance I should have stopped after I failed the first time because I just knew
it wasn't for me but I did it so I could have this backup plan wow and so when my dad got in
his accident he had to sell his company to his partner because he was no longer able to work anymore.
And I didn't have the financial stability like I had before.
So I was sleeping on my sister's couch for a year and a half.
And I was working as an intern for about six months with someone that I was learning a lot from.
And I remember at one point being like, man, I just really want some money.
I feel like I've been working hard for a few years.
Like I really could use some money.
I'm not paying any rent money at my sister's.
I feel like a loser because I can't contribute to her.
I can't even get my own apartment.
I'm just a loser.
I was 24 at the time.
I was like, man, I'm just a loser of a guy.
And he said something to me that what you said, he said, money comes to you when you're ready for it. And I was like, man, I'm just a loser of a guy. And he said something to me that what you
said, he said, money comes to you when you're ready for it. And I was like, I feel really ready.
You know, I could really use the money right now. And he goes, I didn't say desperate.
Exactly. We didn't say that, but he was like, it's going to come to you when you're ready for it.
And when it starts to come, it's going to make sense. And I was like, gosh, I just want it
though. I just want it right now. And it's funny
because maybe a year later it started to come and then it started to really come pretty quickly,
like six months to a year after that. And I remember reflecting a year and a half prior,
I was like, man, I wasn't ready for this. Like if this would have came two years prior,
I would have blown it. I would have been scared of it. I wouldn't have been prepared for it.
Like I would have been so freaked out by the numbers in my bank account, I would have blown it. I would have been scared of it. I wouldn't have been prepared for it. Like I would have been so freaked out by the numbers in my bank account,
I would have sabotaged it probably.
And so I really feel like it comes to you when you are prepared and ready.
And sometimes it's not when you want it to be.
And when people say, how do you get prepared and ready?
That's the key.
So how do you get prepared and ready?
So for me, meditation gets me to understand that i'm the abundance not money and
the second you understand that you're the abundance and i mean understand it in your
nervous system i mean don't just hear that sentence while you're still dying for it in your
body like really be in the alignment of understanding that i'm the abundance wayne
dyer said beautifully you know there's a thing that everyone thought you don't attract that you
attract what you want and wayne dyer said you thing that everyone thought, that you attract what you want.
And Wayne Dyer said, you don't attract what you want.
You attract what you are, what you're in vibration of.
So if you want abundance, you need to get to a place where you understand your abundance.
And everything comes into your life the second you finally don't want it.
It's not don't want it like avoiding, like you don't need it.
The second you stop looking for it, you don't even remember you wanted it.
That's because you have to access the fulfillment
of the connection to yourself first.
And then weirdly, it's going to create,
first of all, so many creative things,
but you're gonna just start,
you're so, first of all, you're so aware
that you see things differently.
Like think of just the,
just that when someone's in their head,
they're walking down the street on their phone worrying, you could pass a hundred dollar bill and not even see it, right? But when
you're not in your head, you suddenly start to see all these dots connecting and everything
meaning something different. And you see every moment as meaningful. Like last night, I was
waiting to go into a restaurant. One guy recognized me and said hi, and we created a
friendship because he's also a musician. That's cool. And then this four-year-old girl comes in
and just sees me and starts dancing in front of me and showing me her toys. And I just had that
moment was so much cooler than if I was looking through wondering, you know, what is going on in
politics. And that was fulfilling, that moment. And because that's fulfilling, and then
on my way to the table, each step is fulfilling. Now, this is more fulfilling than anything I
perceive could come to me to make me happy. Once you actually have practiced understanding that
this moment is more important than anything you think you want, now you are abundance,
not money.
Once you're abundance, it's impossible for it to not come.
You're just going to start feeling safe to everybody.
They're going to want to hire you.
You're going to get bizarre offers.
They'll just say, can you help me through something?
Can you create this thing?
You'll get an alignment with your creative gifts more than your fix-it gifts to make
money.
You'll be in this higher thing.
You'll be worth more. better jobs will start asking you you'll start to actually feel heavy when million dollar
offers are coming in because you're like even that i don't want and then it just every time i say no
to something even if it's a huge thing the bigger thing comes up it's like life's like how about
this how about this and then the only question i ask is does this expand me or contract me oh yeah
that's good right if it expands me then i yes. And I can feel that within two seconds. If I get to a pros and cons
list, I'm already in contracting. Do you get what I'm saying? Wow. So a way that I always give an
example is if you, if you've ever had lunch, you ever have lunch plans with someone and then you
hope that they cancel. Yeah. yeah okay that's your highest saying cancel
wow but you're used to living a notch below it so you wait for them to do it
so that's what i'm talking about is the highest what expands me so it expands you know what
expands me a lot is saying no to a lot of things that's so powerful yeah saying no like god the
hardest things to learn how to do but then it's one of the
most freeing things when you can when you're in that space yeah because there's times where you
might think my highest is to go out and get laid or party but it's actually like really sometimes
my highest is to go to bed early sometimes really my height like it's not our highest to do what
we're doing is it your highest to go on facebook a hundred times day. No, but we still do it. So we live second highest and we miss out on the universe, right?
So for me, it expands me to be in alignment with the universe in that moment.
How important is developing skills and value?
There's one thing of like being abundance and being acceptance and all these things.
But there's another thing of like, okay, well, the person still doesn't have any skills that are valuable for someone else to give them money so one i mean
crazy answer here yeah that's a belief that they need the skills so let me let me explain that so
let's first of all talk about value okay most values perceived right sure and most people think
value is what their worth is based on what's in the bank right you could say that person's got a
net worth of 20 million whatever cool that's nice's nice. But there's some people that could lose that money
and remake it again in 10 minutes. Like Tina Turner, if her bank account got robbed tomorrow,
could just go on tour and fill it again, right? Then there's some people who inherited it and
won or won the lottery. And if that went away, they're still not valuable at that moment,
at least, right? So
what's the cause of value? Is it how much money you have? Or is it what's under it? Right? And
what you understand is under it. The factor of value is do you understand how valuable you are?
Right? So how do you understand how valuable you are? By creating the evidence of it, whether it's
through leaps, whether it's so. So for for me when i started saying no to really tempting things it would be really hard that moment like it'd be really hard
i remember what it was like no dating for six months and then like the swedish bikini teams
like even us and you're like no that's a joke i didn't get to turn down this but when you start
saying no it might be in that moment but the next day you wake up and you're like, now even I'm someone that can say no to that. Like now I'm elevating
myself above that temptation. So if I'm somebody who can say no to that, you feel the force in
that. So that's one thing. So there's a lot of skills I believe that we might need, but if they
aren't your highest to do them, they're not a 10. And if they're not a 10, that affects all of what you do.
My friend Glenn Morshauer says, if you pee in part of the pool, you pee in all the pool.
So my company, my job in my company is to do this, is to go on stage, is to coach people,
is to be the space, to co-write the book, to make the movie.
I don't do the accounting, right? I have no idea how to do the movie. I don't do the accounting, right?
I have no idea how to do the accounting.
I don't give a shit about the accounting, right?
I don't do the wardrobe.
I don't do any of that.
But there are people who it is their 10 to do that.
So I delegate that because if I did this thing
that's a three energetically,
then I'm gonna average and bring that onto the stage.
My energy will be more depleted because I'm doing things in my life that are like that.
Same thing.
If you're out of alignment in whatever area, you're bringing that into all of it.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
So true.
So that's my answer to the skills thing because there's stuff that we're just natural at.
And most of us disqualify what we're naturally good at because
it hasn't been done before. Right? They go, why would anyone want, oh, just stay with it.
Because that thing you have is new. That thing you have is calling to you.
And it might not make sense now. But so many people I've worked with are like,
well, one thing I'm passionate about is this, but I can't say, I'm like, stop the second part.
The yeah, but it's the old story.
This thing you just said feels good to my body.
Doesn't it feel, well, yeah, but no one will make money.
No, you're using the past story.
Literally what this is, what we are, what we are is the universe trying to change the
planet through you.
The universe is trying to change itself to a higher consciousness
through you. That's what's happening when we receive on a higher level. It's like higher
level ideas come through. So when you meditate or whatever, you have an insight that's higher.
That insight, you go, it's exciting, but you can't make sense of it. You can't wrap your mind
around it. Follow it. You're You can't wrap your mind around it.
Follow it.
You're not supposed to wrap your mind around it.
One thing people say is, I can't wrap my mind around it.
You're not here to shove the infinite vastness of what you are into your teeny mind.
You're here to acclimate your mind to the vastness of what you are.
That's the difference.
There's so many quotes that people say
to insult people that live in their hearts. Like this person went off the deep end.
The implication is the shallow end is better. This person went over their head. Yeah,
I'm using my whole body. Right. Right. Not staying in my head. Are you out of your mind?
You better believe it. I'm in my heart my heart exactly right yeah it's easier done than said
how about it's too big for your britches right you're too big for your how about we change pants
and adjust to me versus me shoving myself in my old britches what are we in the 20s right these
old quotes that are every insulting quote if you just reverse it it's so funny how dumb it looks
oh dude you're out of your mind you're
right you're in your head right it's like you're thinking small you better be out of your mind i
love to go over my head so i have to use my body right because just my small mind can't grasp
these concepts we're talking about but my body knows it like if you listen to this you have to
be listening from your body you cannot listen from the small story it won Like if you listen to this, you have to be listening from your body. You cannot listen from the small story.
That all makes sense.
In fact, this is very offensive to the small story.
Yeah.
Right?
How dare he?
I'm in this limitation.
And most of us, instead of fighting for our freedom, fight for our limitation.
Gosh.
Because that's a safe space, right?
Yeah.
It's safe for being limited.
Totally.
Well, ironically, it's not.
It's actually the most dangerous place.
But it seems safer.
Yeah.
But it's familiar.
We're more comfortable in that place, yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, what we call a safe space could be an abusive relationship.
It could be.
It's just you're used to it.
So because you didn't die, you go, that's safety.
And everything that I've never seen before, i don't know that i won't die
so my body's scared of it but the truth is usually what the body's got is way better and it will
change your consciousness from here to here and then you'll get this new calling once you're here
to here and you start moving up versus forward motivationally you start moving in this different way levitating yeah wow and and this is such a
calling for me and i'm so in a belief that we could create really rapid change immediately if
we would start seeing our feelings follow the vibrational callings versus what you think you
have to do based on the small story the amount of change on this planet that can happen
in like a week is so nuts. It moves exponentially. So when you're looking ahead and going,
what's going to happen next year? You're not including all of this we're talking about.
And you don't know how many possibilities are going to birth themselves really quickly and how
if you're sitting there going, how am I going to pay rent in two months? You're backwards.
If you're sitting there going, how am I going to pay rent in two months?
You're backwards.
In two months, do you know how much you can do?
Right.
From this place versus from the small stories vision of what it can see, right?
It's crazy.
I went nuts on this one.
I hope you like it.
I love it, man.
This is great.
Your book is out, The Illusion of Money, Why Chasing Money is Stopping You from Receiving It.
We probably spent 10% of the time talking about money and 90% of the time talking about
the work it takes to actually start receiving it. Yes. It's everything. That's the factor.
That is the stuff. And by the way, we have a thing right now where if you order the book
on anything and you go to our website, I have a movie out. What's the website?
My website's kylecease.com or also evolvingoutloud.com. But right now, we have a movie
that we've made and it's about this. And I'm here to birth a new consciousness and we all are.
The movie's free if they buy the book. If they get the book, you can literally go on
Barnes & Noble or Amazon, get the book, grab the order number, go to my website, put the order number in, and right now you'll have the movie.
Like right now.
The movie's all about, I saw the trailer for it.
I'm going to watch it tonight.
But it's a lot of the case studies of people who have these stories.
The stories they've been telling themselves for years, they grew up in.
And the feelings attached to these stories
and what's keeping people down from abundance of money.
Yes.
That's what I'm understanding.
Yeah, like, so there's several different stories,
including my story in there.
And a lot of my talking is gorgeous,
beautiful nature shots and a reminder of what's really real.
And these people that have these stories
that did what they thought they needed to do to make money,
right? I better become a lawyer because I don't want to experience what my mom experienced in
her childhood, and that makes money. So, like, there's a person that has that story. There's
another person who had a good job at, you know, on Wall Street. Another person had a good job,
you know, at Department of Water and Power making money, and then they did this thing where they,
Department of Water and Power making money. And then they did this thing where they like,
like the girl, this woman, Sharon, she was at the law firm and not happy, but she started eating really healthy and felt so good that she started getting really, you know, high vibrational,
feeling good, raw vegan type food. So she started making it for everyone in the firm and then they
all felt good. And it started being so fun for her that she couldn't wait to get home to go do that.
So she realized that's her passion.
Wow.
And now she's more abundant.
But every second she's in, you should, she talks like I do.
Right.
Where it's like, I'm so excited about this.
Yeah.
This is how we want to live.
We can all live like happy.
Alive, not dead.
Alive.
You don't have to be yesterday ever again you can
start now just close your eyes and meditate for a couple hours it'll clear that out i mean you
don't have to live in this stressful anxious story it's a story you're making your story
your god versus god your god versus the universe versus the moment. Well, I want to acknowledge you for a moment because you spent 22 years as a comedian chasing,
pursuing a dream, living the dream that you wanted to live.
And then you decided that that wasn't as fulfilling anymore for you.
And instead of saying, well, I've put 22 years of my life into this, is this my identity?
I need to stick it out because look at all the work I've done.
Look at the credibility I have.
Yes.
Look at the success.
I can't just stop and go do something else.
Right.
You did.
You transitioned into something else and used that 22 years of skills into something else
to help people with your events, with your meditation retreats, with your books.
And then you've transitioned even more into another topic of money, some people might be like you're a comedian why are you talking about
money yes but i think you have a lot of wisdom around this from your experience in the comedy
too the creativity exactly and so i acknowledge you for constantly reinventing yourself pursuing
ideas and pursuing challenges that my might say, oh, stay in
your lane. Yeah. Go be the funny guy. Well, I love how that's my lane. Right. Like what I did is
you're like, you know, I'll say that it's funny to say that one thing that you pointed out is this
thing. Well, if you've done it for a long time, I hear that so much. Like I've paid this much so
far to go to this school, even though it's not my passion anymore, I should keep going.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Let's say you pay for a plane ticket to go from here to France,
and in one hour it starts going down and you have a parachute available.
Should you say I paid for the whole flight and stay on the plane?
Yeah, no, you should jump out.
You need to get out of the plane.
And our old story is often a plane going down.
And one of the reasons we
stress is we're attached to the old story. Your story is trying to die every day. And if you
understood you're the moment, then you can be a space for the old story to be pulled from you.
If the old story is what you think you are, you're going to go down with it.
Now, I have a theory that's really crazy, or there's a way that I see this. In a lot of cases,
when a doctor tells someone you have six months to live, I believe that's your old story.
In a lot of cases.
Because sometimes they're saying, if you eat different.
But then you go, well, who I am is someone who eats meat.
So, no.
I'm addicted to sugar.
Yeah.
So, you'll go down with the story because you're saying that.
But that's an opportunity to meet a new story.
And a lot of times our old stories are the sickness, the pain, all of that.
That's true.
Right?
So if you have someone tell you something like that, try a new way of eating.
Try a new way of living.
And it's ironic because a lot of times when people hear that, now they've to lose so they live fully we see the greatest art of them free they're free
they cry they release and there's many stories where that prognosis was wrong and they lived a
lot longer but they heal themselves they heal so the just so you know the only reason we stress
is because we don't embrace death and everyday parts of our stories are trying to die.
I mean, our skin cells are doing this all day, right? Could you imagine if you thought you were yesterday's skin cells? So you're like packing it on your face. So death is part of life. And the
more you embrace death, the more life you get. Because a ton of your old story is trying to die.
Yeah, that's true. And if you just chill and let it, you know, it's just like in the old relationship might be trying to die.
And the old story of who you were with your mother is trying to die.
And the old job is trying to die.
If we aren't holding on, there's no tree that like grabs its leaves in the fall and like, don't, this is me.
And, you know, there'd be no room for new leaves.
That's right.
You couldn't make new leaves.
New fruit.
No new apples.
Yeah.
That's it.
Crazy,
right? Well, two years ago you were on the show and I asked you this question about the three
truths and I don't know if you remember them. I don't remember them but I'm assuming something
new will come from you. Possibly. Because you're old. Two years ago is dead and now you're a new
person. Totally. So you might have some new insights. Even my weight is different. You're
much thinner. Yeah. I've lost like 50 pounds since then. I know. You look amazing, man. Yeah. And it's from this. It was not as much changing diet as much as
it's the old stories trying to die. And the byproduct of letting it die was I didn't need to
eat to feel connection to my mom. Wow. So once that died, I didn't have the addiction to food
because it was an addiction to mom, you know, and connection. Powerful. Yeah. More of the questions.
So imagine, this is called the three truths.
Okay.
So imagine it's your last day on earth.
Okay.
In the physical space.
Okay.
And it's.
I do every day.
Right?
Yeah.
There you go.
But imagine it's as many years away as you want it to be.
Cool.
You're 100 whatever.
Cool.
162.
162.
And it's the last day.
And you've finally got to switch off the lights in your physical space and you move on to some other space.
Right.
And you've created everything you want to create.
You've reinvented yourself every few years, written up books, movies.
Whatever you want to do, you've done it.
Yeah.
But you've got to take it all with you.
All the content you've created, all the art and bodies of work, it's got to go with you.
So no one has access to your work anymore.
Oh, okay.
But you have a piece of paper and a pen.
Get it off me.
Or you have a stone that you get to chisel in.
Three things you know to be true about all the lessons of your life
that you would want to leave behind for us.
Okay.
As these lessons, these principles to live by.
What would you say are your three truths?
You're enough right now.
No question.
When you let go of something,
you're only stressed because your mind can measure what you will lose.
It can't see what you'll gain.
I like that one a lot.
And the feeling is never wrong.
The feeling is never wrong. The feeling is never wrong. Say the second one again so I can write it down.
When you're letting go of something, the only reason you're stressing is your mind can measure what you will lose, but it can't see what you will gain. That's actually something my friend
Diego said to me when we were working together. He actually said that sentence. And I was like, should I let go of my Facebook? And he said that. I didn't let go of
my Facebook at that time, but I thought that was profound and let go of a ton of other things.
Wow.
I now this week actually let go of my Twitter. I let someone else run my Twitter.
How freeing is it?
It's like getting magic. It was like Sunday and and today is what thursday i have been in heaven
because it also weirdly made me not interested in the news and it made me not interested in
anything going like i like it stopped my facebook and instagram too it was just like wow there's so
much liberation and not check like i'm used to scroll on twitter and do this thing and what am
i i don't care yeah care. We aren't supposed to
know everything else going on. It's a lot of information. It's a lot of suitcases we don't
need. Right. You know, oh, okay, that happened there. And this is happening in this country.
And this politicians, what am I doing? I'm not doing anything with the information.
Just holding on to it. Yeah. Keeping your mind as opposed to having space to create or love or be.
And how much creativity and income are we not able to bring in?
Because 90% of our day is filled with just facts of nothing.
Yeah, it's true.
Right?
Like, I'm sorry, but like that happened.
But in the old days, we weren't all informed of every area in the world.
Yeah.
And that probably, by the way, the informing of everybody is repressing us so much as creating more of the problem in the first place.
Everyone's full of suitcases.
So they're mad.
And then they're lashing out on each other.
But just connect to you.
It's so much cooler.
So much cooler.
Yeah.
The illusion of money, why chasing money is stopping you from receiving it.
This is going to be a game changer.
Make sure you pick up a few copies.
Check out the documentary.
I really believe that when you stop chasing anything and you accept yourself, like you said in number one, that's when everything starts chasing you.
Yes.
And you can start receiving.
Yes.
Receiving love love receiving health receiving
happiness joy financial freedom all these things and one thing people say to me is so sit and do
nothing and one unconscious belief is sitting on the couch not watching tv just sitting listening
to silence is doing nothing it's finally doing something like you skirting around at a job you don't like is doing nothing until we're now connected to what
we are right so to me to sit for a while and listen for a couple hours a few hours and don't
interrupt it don't do this in the middle of it like go a couple hours you're not going to believe
what starts happening you go 100 days at a couple hours a day, you're free. You're free. You're abundant. It's different.
It's different. You start cleaning out the crap in the attic literally and figuratively.
Yeah. The emotional attic and the physical attic. Yeah.
Yeah. And I'll say for people, this book is cheaper. It's $19.95 and it will pay for itself
over and over and over and over again. And it comes with the movie too.
Kyle, you're the man. I love this.
We got to do more of this stuff together.
It's been two years since you were on.
So we got to come back on for the next book about health.
Yeah.
Your next one's going to be about the illusion of health.
The physical way.
Illusion of health.
I love it, man.
The final question for you is what's your definition of greatness?
Now.
Just the now.
Just the moment.
I love it, man.
It's the greatest thing ever.
You're the man, Kyle. I love you, brother. It's the greatest thing ever. You're the man, Kyle.
I love you, brother.
Thank you, brother.
That was fun.
That was fun.
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